Great idea, nice build. My son just turned 15 and has taken a keen interest to welding. I let him use my equipment any time he wants. He told me he is top of his class. I am a very proud Dad.
Awesome! I started welding stuff together at my dad's auto repair shop when I was young, and it was really valuable for my life. Now my kids like working and learning in my little shop. Such valuable education and memories, I love it!
Where I live, storing your cylinders like you did at the start of the video is literally illegal. So, good for you that you are tackling this safety issue 👍 People here tend to do pretty much what you did with your parallel bars, but with chains instead of your bend. The chains can be easily removed to allow moving of the cylinders
Thanks! Even though it's just me in the garage, I've worked a decade in factories and try to keep my shop up to a similar standard to the extent that I can.
@@TimWelds it's not just you in your shop though. "We" are too 😉. You run a pretty successful RUclips channel, and a lot of people, like me, use your videos as a learning experience and for advice. Having you show how to properly secure your stuff imo is just as important as all your other safety lessons. Keep up the good work. You were one of the first RUclipsrs I found who picked me up where I was when I knew literally nothing about welding and had gotten my first simple stick welder as a gift. I didn't even know where to put the mass clamp, or whether I was allowed to touch anything while welding 😅
Great idea although I suspect some subtle refinements might make it better - a position lock of some sort to keep it above the 1/2 height mark on the tanks. Having some sort of "foot" to hold the bases in place when the rack is down so the bottom can't be kicked out from below the rack is the primary improvement I'm thinking of.
Nice work. Quick and do it's job. How about wrap something in between the pibes and cylinders so it's not metal against metal. Maybe it could get a bit anoying with those sounds, and I think something soft in between can lock it good and sound proof. Love your videos
Been watching you for a couple years now tim, Its nice to see these custom fabrication videos because it gives a chance to learn fabrication skills from watching you do it too. I have just purchased in the UK a just released remote controlled "Jasic MIG 200 PFC Evo 2.0", it does MIG, stick & lift tig. Im great at mig & stick but no tig experience. I am planning to learn lift tig next from watching your online course. thanks!
I think this is a great idea. For myself, I would add a simple foot at bottom to keep the placement secure. L channel in a "U" shape anchored to the floor. This might be overkill but gives a little more peace of mind.
I’ll add a holding base at the bottom of the cylinders. Two pieces of steel angle running parallel with a metal plate welded on one end to bolt into the bottom stud like you did with the top piece. Weld a couple of metal pieces between the two steel angle pieces to hold them together. That will keep the cylinders in line at the bottom too. Hopefully you got the idea. Can send you a drawing. 😅
Hey mate I just found your channel. I’m going to learn how to mig just from your videos. Just want to say that’s heaps for the content,you explain things so well for someone like myself that’s just starting out. Keep it up mate! Cheers from Australia 👍🏼
Seems like a pretty quick and effective solution to me. Good work! As a potential improvement, how about adding some plumbing insulation (padding) to the tubing and maybe even a cross bar in the middle of the hoop with some padding as well? Not only will it make the tanks fit more snugly but it will keep them from clanking one another as well.
That's more secure than most "approved" set-ups I've seen. A toe plate on the bottom to keep the cylinders from skittering out in case of earthquake or attack of the forklift might be nice but then it wouldn't allow you to use that space for something else when you don't have cylinders to store.
This is a good exercise for bending, but if you can't do it right away, then at least get some eyebolts and a chain with a snap to secure them to a bench or wall. The bottles should always be secured when a regulator is installed. Although the bottles are quite safe when the cap is screwed on properly, they are very heavy and will hurt you ( or a kid) if they fall on you.
I was just need something luke this for my mobike welding rig. I was just going to do chain but after seeing this i think your idea looks way cooler. Even if chain would be faster and potentially hold the bottles tighter
I see no issues with this as far as safety. I do like the convenience of usage vs a chain. I bolted one end of my chain and made a slotted bracket for the other end and it captures one link of the chain and gravity keeps the chain in place. I honestly like what you made. It could even be made from 1/2" or 3/8" round bar and I think flat bar as well so it presents many construction alternatives. Thanks for posting this. Kudos for a job well done.
Very nice project. Well done. I agree with Michael, you could put some thin foam wrap on them but the only time I'd see or hear them moving is during an earthquake!! LOL!!
Great job! Just a thought for safety with one tube installed what if a child puts their hand on the Lever in the up position and slams it down on the side of the cylinder? Does it have a soft close or perhaps you design a stop at 90 degrees? Keep trucking great video!
Great idea. I built a bottle trolly from scrap but I need to design a receptical to hold it to the walll and bench so it's safe when it's stored or when it's in use.
It looks like there is enough space along the wall to mount both cylinders against the wall. I would not want to have to move one cylinder to get to the other cylinder to make a hook up. Anytime there is an unsecured cylinder it becomes a safety concern. It would be easy to forget to put back a cylinder into the holder.
I bought it about a year ago as an upgrade from the Harbor Freight mini mill that I used for about 7 years. I haven't made a video about it, but a lot of people have asked, so I may make some machining content in the next few months. Of course she knows...I gave it to her for her birthday...LOL!
Dont know if I've made mention of this previously. Like your RogueFab bender. I have one and it is so much easier and more precise than the horizontal bender i used to use.
I've been really happy with it so far! I almost bought a JD2, but I don't have room to bolt it to the floor and sweep tubing horizontally, so I went with this one, glad I did.
@TimWelds My previous bender was a Pro Tools horizontal bender ( just like the JD 2 ). Not only does it require a great deal of floor space to use but you are not in a position to watch the scale and pull the handle at the same time. You almost need another person to watch the scale while you pull to have any real hope of producing consistency. I have an electro/ hydraulic power supply with my RogueFab. It has a joy stick control handle. This allows extremely precise control so exact precision is almost assured.
It's a weld together kit that I bought from Rogue fabrication a few years ago. I really like it compared to the manual horizontal benders because it doesn't have to be fastened to the floor and you don't need room for the tubing to sweep horizontally. I have a video of assembling it on the channel.
Great idea, nice build. My son just turned 15 and has taken a keen interest to welding. I let him use my equipment any time he wants. He told me he is top of his class. I am a very proud Dad.
Awesome! I started welding stuff together at my dad's auto repair shop when I was young, and it was really valuable for my life. Now my kids like working and learning in my little shop. Such valuable education and memories, I love it!
Train that future generation for success. Those skills will take him anywhere he wants to go. Excellent job Dad.
Where I live, storing your cylinders like you did at the start of the video is literally illegal. So, good for you that you are tackling this safety issue 👍
People here tend to do pretty much what you did with your parallel bars, but with chains instead of your bend. The chains can be easily removed to allow moving of the cylinders
Thanks! Even though it's just me in the garage, I've worked a decade in factories and try to keep my shop up to a similar standard to the extent that I can.
@@TimWelds it's not just you in your shop though. "We" are too 😉. You run a pretty successful RUclips channel, and a lot of people, like me, use your videos as a learning experience and for advice.
Having you show how to properly secure your stuff imo is just as important as all your other safety lessons. Keep up the good work. You were one of the first RUclipsrs I found who picked me up where I was when I knew literally nothing about welding and had gotten my first simple stick welder as a gift. I didn't even know where to put the mass clamp, or whether I was allowed to touch anything while welding 😅
Good job Tim, a professional looking job.
Thanks! It reminds me of building automotive control arms years ago.
Great idea although I suspect some subtle refinements might make it better - a position lock of some sort to keep it above the 1/2 height mark on the tanks. Having some sort of "foot" to hold the bases in place when the rack is down so the bottom can't be kicked out from below the rack is the primary improvement I'm thinking of.
Great suggestions! I think the bottom getting kicked out by something rolling past is the biggest potential failure.
Nice work. Quick and do it's job. How about wrap something in between the pibes and cylinders so it's not metal against metal. Maybe it could get a bit anoying with those sounds, and I think something soft in between can lock it good and sound proof. Love your videos
Lol that sounds like a job for a pool noodle.
Great suggestion! Thanks!
Been watching you for a couple years now tim, Its nice to see these custom fabrication videos because it gives a chance to learn fabrication skills from watching you do it too. I have just purchased in the UK a just released remote controlled "Jasic MIG 200 PFC Evo 2.0", it does MIG, stick & lift tig. Im great at mig & stick but no tig experience. I am planning to learn lift tig next from watching your online course. thanks!
Nice! I need something like this since mine are stored sitting against the wall too!
Thanks Jeff!
Cool idea... and I like how y0u left enough room for the corner of the bench to house a vise.
: )
I think this is a great idea. For myself, I would add a simple foot at bottom to keep the placement secure. L channel in a "U" shape anchored to the floor. This might be overkill but gives a little more peace of mind.
Perhaps a "tray" at the floor to keep their bases from moving....preserve that vertical orientation without question.
I’ll add a holding base at the bottom of the cylinders. Two pieces of steel angle running parallel with a metal plate welded on one end to bolt into the bottom stud like you did with the top piece. Weld a couple of metal pieces between the two steel angle pieces to hold them together. That will keep the cylinders in line at the bottom too. Hopefully you got the idea. Can send you a drawing. 😅
Hydraulic tube bender, my hero! NIce build, smiling here that you got another shop project complete.
You gave me ideas for other applications. Thank, Tim!
Thank you!
Hey mate I just found your channel. I’m going to learn how to mig just from your videos. Just want to say that’s heaps for the content,you explain things so well for someone like myself that’s just starting out. Keep it up mate!
Cheers from Australia 👍🏼
Seems like a pretty quick and effective solution to me. Good work! As a potential improvement, how about adding some plumbing insulation (padding) to the tubing and maybe even a cross bar in the middle of the hoop with some padding as well? Not only will it make the tanks fit more snugly but it will keep them from clanking one another as well.
That's more secure than most "approved" set-ups I've seen.
A toe plate on the bottom to keep the cylinders from skittering out in case of earthquake or attack of the forklift might be nice but then it wouldn't allow you to use that space for something else when you don't have cylinders to store.
Build a tray to hold the bottom of the cylinders and you will be golden.
Definitely, the biggest potential problem would be something bumping into the bottom of them. Thanks!
So simple. I think I want to make one. You inspired me!
Great little project
This is a good exercise for bending, but if you can't do it right away, then at least get some eyebolts and a chain with a snap to secure them to a bench or wall. The bottles should always be secured when a regulator is installed. Although the bottles are quite safe when the cap is screwed on properly, they are very heavy and will hurt you ( or a kid) if they fall on you.
Great tips! Thanks!
good idea sir tim
Thanks!
I was just need something luke this for my mobike welding rig. I was just going to do chain but after seeing this i think your idea looks way cooler. Even if chain would be faster and potentially hold the bottles tighter
I see no issues with this as far as safety. I do like the convenience of usage vs a chain. I bolted one end of my chain and made a slotted bracket for the other end and it captures one link of the chain and gravity keeps the chain in place. I honestly like what you made. It could even be made from 1/2" or 3/8" round bar and I think flat bar as well so it presents many construction alternatives. Thanks for posting this. Kudos for a job well done.
Thanks a ton! It could definitely be done just as easily from round or flat.
Great idea tim !nice build
Thanks!
Nice! Simple clean solution!
I heard of a guy who bought at least 2-3 regulators per year when he was using his gas tanks without being secured ….
Oh no! At least it was just the regulators...those loose cylinder broken valve videos are crazy!
@@TimWelds I have heard about those scenarios, but luckily I have not seen it in person yet.
Very nice project. Well done. I agree with Michael, you could put some thin foam wrap on them but the only time I'd see or hear them moving is during an earthquake!! LOL!!
Thanks! Definitely.
You mentioned you were trying to save space if you used a long plate on the wall and cought two studs you could shift bottles closer to the bench
I just noticed on a ladder the squish tubing technique. Thanks for sharing
No problem! It's a really easy way to join round tubing.
Great job! Just a thought for safety with one tube installed what if a child puts their hand on the Lever in the up position and slams it down on the side of the cylinder? Does it have a soft close or perhaps you design a stop at 90 degrees? Keep trucking great video!
Great job
Thanks!
nice idea. works fast and easy.
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You can add a chain to use it for one bottle when there isn't two
Nice work Tim, it looks easy to use which is always a good thing.
Thanks!
Nice fix.
Great idea. I built a bottle trolly from scrap but I need to design a receptical to hold it to the walll and bench so it's safe when it's stored or when it's in use.
Thanks! I've been thinking about building a bottle trolly myself.
All my spare argon’s I store in a 48” x 24” x 24” gang box, nothing will ever fall over, if I need room I roll the box out.
Great idea… I’m California you would need something for the bottom of the tank from shifting
Pretty clever.
As long as it is secure I don't see a problem
Awesome design!! I like it, I need do that too!! I’m big fan of safety too !!
Thanks!
It looks like there is enough space along the wall to mount both cylinders against the wall. I would not want to have to move one cylinder to get to the other cylinder to make a hook up. Anytime there is an unsecured cylinder it becomes a safety concern. It would be easy to forget to put back a cylinder into the holder.
4:07...Did you notice the drywall screw showing up....😉
Yeah...that happened. I actually didn't notice it until I edited the video, but now I see it every time I walk past.
@@TimWelds Make a little gas bottle sign to cover it...
Good idea! 👍🏻
Nice build, your drywall is also now nice and tight against the studs but the look of it.
Thanks! Yeah, there's quite a nail pop above it now.
Hey, I invented that 3 years ago in my shop.
Great idea for the home shop. Where is the tube bender from?
*@**0:07** Where did that gray & blue Precision Matthews PM-728VT mill come from?!! Did I miss that episode? Does your wife know, lol?*
I bought it about a year ago as an upgrade from the Harbor Freight mini mill that I used for about 7 years. I haven't made a video about it, but a lot of people have asked, so I may make some machining content in the next few months. Of course she knows...I gave it to her for her birthday...LOL!
@@TimWelds I'm sure your loved her present haha.
Dont know if I've made mention of this previously. Like your RogueFab bender. I have one and it is so much easier and more precise than the horizontal bender i used to use.
I've been really happy with it so far! I almost bought a JD2, but I don't have room to bolt it to the floor and sweep tubing horizontally, so I went with this one, glad I did.
@TimWelds My previous bender was a Pro Tools horizontal bender ( just like the JD 2 ). Not only does it require a great deal of floor space to use but you are not in a position to watch the scale and pull the handle at the same time. You almost need another person to watch the scale while you pull to have any real hope of producing consistency. I have an electro/ hydraulic power supply with my RogueFab. It has a joy stick control handle. This allows extremely precise control so exact precision is almost assured.
Very cool.
Thanks!
Great idea, just to tease you...they are still side by side...lol
Nice Ideal
Thanks!
How's the suprise in the gyprock as you secured it to the wall😂
I really liked your bending machine, what brand is it? Thanks for sharing your ideas, greetings
It's a weld together kit that I bought from Rogue fabrication a few years ago. I really like it compared to the manual horizontal benders because it doesn't have to be fastened to the floor and you don't need room for the tubing to sweep horizontally. I have a video of assembling it on the channel.
Great videos Tim,which is a better welder a co2 or lazer?
Nice
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Thanks!
Here is my nice comment to help the video grow in place of those nasty ones.
I always appreciate that!
nice!
Thanks!
Nooooiiice!
Thanks!
What tubing bender is that you are using?
It's a weld together kit from Rogue fabrication that I bought a few years ago.
You *_invented_* cylinder racks??
I just made a different variation.
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Thanks!
I love it you are a thinking M F . Keep it coming .