So I've been informed that Nightmare's buff is potentially a translation issue, and he will gain that new status when pallet stunned during his "lunge attack" animation, not after teleporting. Kinda sad honestly. Though the details are still a little off.
@@tkibidi_soilet uh no they should. It only affected the highest rank sure but it needed. His play rate and win rate are high too. They do said in a QnA that he is in the changes list so that is expected
@Altplvsf4 based more on high tier than anything, but they really should since that is where characters can be played to their max potential, and it will be where Netease can determine how strong they are in the game currently.
The Puppeteer change is insane. Why do they remove counters from characters as if it's nothing? Chip hunters are a really small fraction of the game and most of them aren't even win hunters or meta hunters. This is just making a meta character (puppet) stronger and non-meta characters who had their niche weaker.
Puppeteer against mad eyes will just be a joke now, it already meant as mad eyes that puppeteer needed 3 layers of walls not to escape when trapped. Now he pops that thing and can vault through 6 walls
It has always been this way though. Barmaid buffs didn't do anything for her at all other than for facing slow chase hunters. When at that she was already ok
that happen in most character like female dancer, barmaid, dream witch and joker not just pupeeter they just doing it so he can be play comfortably, he still can be countered but not that hard where he become obsolete.
@@ethaphu5589 the thing with the barmaid buff (if you're referring to the one which her heal is no longer cancelled by chips) is that it simply did not make sense for her heal to be cancelled by a chip. Even if it was a trick to counter her, it still was not fair, and I say that as a Bonbon main who experienced the glory of cancelling her heals multiple times. Now for Puppeteer, it simply doesn't make any sense. His skill was perfectly fine, as most hunters are single hit, and he was countered by a specific niche.That's fair game, that's how all characters work.
@@yushi6614 the issue is that the change to Puppeteer is completely illogical and unnecessary. Every character has counters and good match ups, Puppeteer became notable as his skill is very good against Opera Singer, and on good hands could actually play any match up vs. single hit hunters. This left him to suffer against chip hunters and hunters who deal more than 0.5 (normal hit) damage. And in all honesty, there is no problem with characters being bad against certain match ups. You're not picking a Bonbon against a team with heavy focus on decoding, for example, as you'll likely get cipherrushed and not get a tie. With this new change, there is no character who counters Puppeteer and he trades 0.75 damage for 0.25, which is simply not fair lol. This means that even a Joseph terror shock doesn't kill him. Before you weren't advised to hit Louis because it'd trade off 0.25 damage for an attack recovery, it's really not good, but now you don't even get the 0.25, you just get an attack recovery, while they get free decoding seconds.
Some clarifications Puppeteer can tank a TS hit and still use Louis thanks to his buff, since Louis tanks 1.5 damage and he tanks .5 damage. He can also tank a 3 spike Polun, maining he can buy extra time for the team. Additionally, how the Alva thing works is that he tanks the damage first and then the damage is spread. So if current Puppeteer tanks an Alva hit, he tanks the full damage and the other .1 damage will get spread. The thing is, since Alva does 1.1 damage and Puppeteer can tank 1.5 damage now, he will just tank full damage and his team won't get hit. Faro Lady can actually cancel her invisibility before 40% in certain situations and that's what the buff changes. This can either be because of Flywheel, rescues, items, or Hunter abilities. At 0%, her cooldown becomes 3 seconds and 40 at 100%. This also means invisibility at 40% will give her a 16 second cooldown, which is really good. Nightmare's teleport actually depends on where his crow is. Additionally, Flying means his dash. I don't think the pallet stun buff will help since the team is notified when he is stun and pre dropping pallets is already effective against him.
Alva deals 1.2dmg. The Nightmare buff against pallets is actually pretty good, stunning him during lunge is very easy and a big counter, only being able to do it once per match is game changing. Pre-dropping them isn’t always possible during a chase.
@abcdefghilihgfedcba Yeah, found that out after the fact that it's 1.2, doesn't change the fact that Louis tanks 1.5 damage now. While that is true, with how the meta is evolved and all the survivors that's come out of it, it's become way easier to just keep at a distance and pre drop against Nightmare. Additionally, his dash logic is still kinda bad, so you can often get stuck outside of the pallet still, allowing survivors to safely predrop.
aaaa as a norton main im so upset with his nerf. i can understand a norton nerf for his magnet spamming, but why change the recharging speed? making the recharge 10s longer does nothing, making magnet cd longer would make so much more sense to me. maybe im just upset bc it feels like it takes so long already TT
dont worry, i thought the same. it's so unnecessary to me. i feel like nerfing forward would have made more sense tbh. prospector is easy to deal with, yes he can be annoying BUT it's still manageable and once he uses his 3 magnets, you're safe. while forward is super annoying and can harass you for one minute straight. idk, im so sad norton is getting nerfed. :(
@@tweinty respectfully youre tapped, forward is hella weak and is only annoying due to the good players that play him. he heavily relies on risky moves to be any good. norton is used by everyone and their mother ofc he is going to get a nerf
@@YxnEughby the way forward have most big debuff to decoding (30%) it’s really a lot. No one survivor in the game has it. Except for the mechanic now she doesn't have it either
The Nightmare's translation is weird. Based on official translation I got from IDV Facebook group it supposed to be when you got hit with a pallet while "diving" with normal attack, you will get that "revelation" effect. The next time you eat a pallet again you will not be stunned and instead will break the pallet directly.
6:53 what i think this means is like: lets say louis already took 1 normal hitand then takes another one. Louis will get 0.25 of that damage (so a normal chip hit) by himself, and the rest of the damage (that goes onto matthias) will be shared with the servivors. my guess is this will mostly be useful during detention hermit
So excited for Tracys buff been a Tracy main since she came out and been playing since 2019 but still kinda mad about the bot debuff... when George practically decodes about the same as a normal decoder but I do agree it makes her slightly more balanced
As a geisha main this is crazy. In the higher ranks every second matters and she literally didn’t need to be nerfed because imo she is one of the most easily countered hunters.
The nightmare thing was so bad, I would use the strat of camping the pallet and the hunter would awkwardly just walk instead of teleporting since they know. Though the main defense for him is op teleport so… I actually see this as a general nerf Idk…
That nightmare adjustment translation is weird. That supposed to activate when you got hit by a pallet while "Diving" with normal attack instead of after teleporting.
@@eljae_kunoh so they didn’t fix it, it’s just a general thing. But the teleport nerf is still true? Edit: WAIT THATS even worse survivors usually just stick behind a pallet and nightmare just hits the pallet, then walk through it to get a basic hit and if they get pallet stunned then what??
@@bubbles000I think it’s when surv would go a bit far from the pallet and then when nightmare dives it would always touch the pallet and smart surv would drop it before u hit them so it is rlly annoying since u cannot mindgame with dive
I'm sorry, they're BUFFING Puppeteer??? I thought for sure that they would be nerfing him tbh. I swear, every single rank match that I got a hermit, Joseph or Sculptor, I wouldn't really be able to do anything because I would just die immediately and feed presence. This changes things quite a bit if the translation is accurate
i always thought of prospector as one of the most balanced characters in the game since like 2020/2021 (used to main him), but when i came back from a break i found out they had nerfed him… and now they are giving him another nerf… it hurts to see, man 😩
I honestly wanna see how balanced this game would be if they just buffed every weak survivor and hunter until all of them could be considered good, or at least decent lol
I agree with everything except Norton, I mean I can't decide if it's really Nerf? Magnet spam is not a way to play, meaning when all three are finished he is weaker than the lucky guy, but with this" Nerf" he always has one in his pocket, I think he has been weakened as a support only.
U get it !! As a Tracy main I don’t really like what they’re going for 😭 atp it’s just two main body tracys, using lucky guy could prob benefit more /hj
A buddy and I tried messing around with Puppeteer's buffs now that it's out, mainly the hermit damage one, but I'm assuming that damage sharing is only from Hermit's abilities since normal hits don't do anything different. We didn't really know Hermit's abilities well enough to really test out the cipher damage ones since using Louis on a cipher isn't really something i considered. So maybe we got something wrong about how it works or what. I'll probably wait until like a video example exists lol
I can't believe they why does it feel as if they nerfed nightmare, they did not fix his early game. They should have just made his speed boost permanent, either completely or just a small version, this way he is not able to get infinite looped on most windows. And his teleport being made to have a longer cooldown reduces the opportunity for him to use his ability a second time mid chase when the teleport isn't even strong cause of how slow it actually is. This feels like when they tried to reduce minds eye decoding buff and give her an ability to push back the hunters, they don't really understand how to fix the character. I got to like 40th nightmare in one week and stayed there for 2, he is weak, he has a terrible early game and is sort of saved by him snowballing at the end if people play bad, he needs to just be buffed and not nerfed, and buffed in the areas that actually matter. Make him be able to move and vault at a decent speed, and have him be able to see the poached survivors (the skill when he sees u for a bit) through walls if he is close to him. That way the hunter can focus on throwing the birds on the decoding survivors to reduce their decoding speed, and lastly make it so that he recovers faster if he dashes and hits a different survivor from the one poached, and make his first dash either reach half a meter longer or faster so that his first pressence isnt reduced to blink/warp dependant. Also the Geisha nerf is more about her being frustrating to play rather than her being strong
Faro ladys buff is AMAZING cause as a previous 3rd FL in some matches there would be times a hunter would get a lucky hit on you and then you would have to raw kite for the next 40s but now with this buff her inv will be much more consistent and be used more!!! Honestly this shouldve been a thing on her release to balance out the fact that you dont regain inv in downed or chaired state. Is she gonna get played in coa? No but shes still a great character for solo queue
Ofc people are going to be mad at norton nerf, he is so popular but idk if they know he is so annoying to go against,,, And dont get me wrong, he is fun to play- i just dont see a problem with the nerf really
The nerfs seem pretty fair as much as I love Geisha Her instant dashes are legit insane prospector Not the end of the world Despite what him mains are gonna say weeping seems pretty fair I'm okay with the buffs Accept maybe Puppeteer I think him no longer being counter by any hunter Is a bit of a scratch Though I know this is not set in stone yet Chip hunters are such a small part And then continuously buffing Survivors they once countered Is why you rarely see then Everything else about his adjustment seems deserved I just don't Like how his only counter is gonna be his players
i remember when i started playing mech because i got the futaba skin and when her 70% debuff happened i felt like it took me 1000yrs to decode a cipher--- it was crazy
puppeteer buff is crazy cuz now if ur 1 cheap u can use lewis and get ts without dying, like late game rn u need to be full health to tank a detention hit with lewis or the hunter would have to just wait 8s, but now u can use 2 lewis late game and waste 16s
the only thing im happy about this is prospector nerf yall cant believed i played as hunter and out of all matches they all pick prospector with flywheel like
im a survivor main and seeing this.. i cant believe how blind survivors are mains... fr no wonder why hunter struggle.. like i see there even hunter that not even getting buff when they have mostly have zero pick rate like soul weaver, axe boy, nightmare, violinist, and yes even wuchang.. lets also include undead fr they need buff they deserve love pls netease buff them as a survivor main i also want to try them but there just so weak at early games
Yes ax boy buff!! I hope the 50% is also vertical cuz ik going into church from the ground to the stairs mess up the speed but opera can still dash on her cape on that elevation difference
after idvclue translated the changes correctly this is the thing about nightmare: -they still refuse to remove his speed debuff, they actually made it worse? he moves 13% SLOWER NOT IN CHASE now -the percy effect on pallet only works if someone pallet stuns you MID-DASH, which not many people know how to do. so you'll go most matches without ever getting it because a) everyone will start pallet spamming instead of camping or b) even if they camp they wont be able to pallet stun you in dash
You are misunderstanding Nightmare's poach ability. Originally it is a 10% movement speed increase when not in chase. This is why you see high tier Nightmare look down during chase, so they get a 10% speed boost. It is a buff, where they increased it from 10% to 13% speed boost. The only Nightmare nerf is the increase in his teleport CD from 50 sec to 57 sec.
@@EstablishedGentleman thats an exploit and its called bad design. i know it CAN be done and i do it, im saying it should not exist and he should have that 10% back by default
@@Antonio-bs7rs yeah? most nightmare mains do the camera exploit and move 10% faster anyway it wouldn't make any difference for survivors just for the commodity of the hunter
@@ratspector there's still some risk-reward aspect to limiting your FOV by looking down, and nightmare can't permanently maintain the speed boost, he's gonna have to start chase eventually/check to see where a survivor is mindgaming. a base 5.1 m/s hunter (30% faster than a survivor) would be too oppressive, even if it is nightmare
I think they mean faro lady’s cooldown is paused in tide if she has taken a hit? I’m not sure if that is what it would translate as close call. But it seems like the most plausible explanation. I at least know that tide can sometimes be bad for her if her cooldown is below 20 seconds cuz then she’ll turn invisible and waste it
when is priestess getting nerfed though? grr and where is my painter and fool's gold buff??? also why is geisha getting nerfed lmao 😭this was insane but anygays let's celebrate the norton nerf at the very least
Why do they hate nightmare so much, i mean the buff is good but if that's possible only once it becomes a normal nightmare and the strategy can work again perfectly and increasing the bad omen recharging time to almost a whole minute is nuts, he's not even going to have the same map pressure that he has now and is probably going to make it worse because it's the only thing he has for map pressure. As I nightmare main i say that the buff is not that much because usually when I teleport I get behind the pallet hitbox and when they drop it I don't get stunned very much often or probably are just survivors not positioning right for the pallet stun. To make it fair at least the cool down shouldn't change or make the new effect usable not only one time but maybe 3 or 2
I thought Toy Merchant also getting some buff/adjustment? If I recall correctly they said they're gonna improve her s tier acc (which they alr did) alongside an adjustment? or was I trippin
Ooof the Norton nerf worries me. I don’t play him but I’ve had really good Norton teammates in the past. So I worry about that new nerf to him. He really relies on those disks so….hmm :s overall I don’t play any of these characters. Also not my hunters either so I’m spared. Will see how the community reacts to all this.
norton nerf was needed. ppl are gonna have to start being more strategic w magnets rather than just spamming. it’s especially more annoying when he’s supporting others kite (especially when it’s last chair😭😭)
i’m very happy with the mech buffs even if they are small, atleast it’s something. she’s one of my fav survs and it sucks that i can’t play her in rank bc she’s just so bad
So I've been informed that Nightmare's buff is potentially a translation issue, and he will gain that new status when pallet stunned during his "lunge attack" animation, not after teleporting. Kinda sad honestly. Though the details are still a little off.
yeah it is only during the dive animation which basically makes it useless because survivors can just predrop pallets denying this
13:46 THE BOT BLINK PREDICT WAS CRAZY
They're getting smarter
13:44 not zeez getting blink predicted by a bot 😭
😂😂
i think Tracy's debuff should not count if her bot is gone
this norton nerf was so random
Very popular on tournament I suppose.
@@rick30521 they need to stop basing nerfs and buffs solely off of tournaments imo
@@tkibidi_soilet uh no they should. It only affected the highest rank sure but it needed. His play rate and win rate are high too. They do said in a QnA that he is in the changes list so that is expected
so undeserved they hate seeing my king win...
@Altplvsf4 based more on high tier than anything, but they really should since that is where characters can be played to their max potential, and it will be where Netease can determine how strong they are in the game currently.
The Puppeteer change is insane. Why do they remove counters from characters as if it's nothing? Chip hunters are a really small fraction of the game and most of them aren't even win hunters or meta hunters. This is just making a meta character (puppet) stronger and non-meta characters who had their niche weaker.
Puppeteer against mad eyes will just be a joke now, it already meant as mad eyes that puppeteer needed 3 layers of walls not to escape when trapped. Now he pops that thing and can vault through 6 walls
It has always been this way though.
Barmaid buffs didn't do anything for her at all other than for facing slow chase hunters. When at that she was already ok
that happen in most character like female dancer, barmaid, dream witch and joker not just pupeeter they just doing it so he can be play comfortably, he still can be countered but not that hard where he become obsolete.
@@ethaphu5589 the thing with the barmaid buff (if you're referring to the one which her heal is no longer cancelled by chips) is that it simply did not make sense for her heal to be cancelled by a chip. Even if it was a trick to counter her, it still was not fair, and I say that as a Bonbon main who experienced the glory of cancelling her heals multiple times. Now for Puppeteer, it simply doesn't make any sense. His skill was perfectly fine, as most hunters are single hit, and he was countered by a specific niche.That's fair game, that's how all characters work.
@@yushi6614 the issue is that the change to Puppeteer is completely illogical and unnecessary. Every character has counters and good match ups, Puppeteer became notable as his skill is very good against Opera Singer, and on good hands could actually play any match up vs. single hit hunters. This left him to suffer against chip hunters and hunters who deal more than 0.5 (normal hit) damage. And in all honesty, there is no problem with characters being bad against certain match ups. You're not picking a Bonbon against a team with heavy focus on decoding, for example, as you'll likely get cipherrushed and not get a tie. With this new change, there is no character who counters Puppeteer and he trades 0.75 damage for 0.25, which is simply not fair lol. This means that even a Joseph terror shock doesn't kill him. Before you weren't advised to hit Louis because it'd trade off 0.25 damage for an attack recovery, it's really not good, but now you don't even get the 0.25, you just get an attack recovery, while they get free decoding seconds.
Geisha being nerfed by anything is kinda crazy
Bro, I'm still waiting for my game to finish updating
DANG MINE UPDATED A WHILE AGO
HELP SAME IT DIDNT FINISH SINCE YESTERDAY
@@Akit0shin Jesus christ it only took mine around 10 mins XD
the butterfly straight into the tram made me giggle
Some clarifications
Puppeteer can tank a TS hit and still use Louis thanks to his buff, since Louis tanks 1.5 damage and he tanks .5 damage. He can also tank a 3 spike Polun, maining he can buy extra time for the team. Additionally, how the Alva thing works is that he tanks the damage first and then the damage is spread. So if current Puppeteer tanks an Alva hit, he tanks the full damage and the other .1 damage will get spread. The thing is, since Alva does 1.1 damage and Puppeteer can tank 1.5 damage now, he will just tank full damage and his team won't get hit.
Faro Lady can actually cancel her invisibility before 40% in certain situations and that's what the buff changes. This can either be because of Flywheel, rescues, items, or Hunter abilities. At 0%, her cooldown becomes 3 seconds and 40 at 100%. This also means invisibility at 40% will give her a 16 second cooldown, which is really good.
Nightmare's teleport actually depends on where his crow is. Additionally, Flying means his dash. I don't think the pallet stun buff will help since the team is notified when he is stun and pre dropping pallets is already effective against him.
Alva deals 1.2dmg.
The Nightmare buff against pallets is actually pretty good, stunning him during lunge is very easy and a big counter, only being able to do it once per match is game changing. Pre-dropping them isn’t always possible during a chase.
@abcdefghilihgfedcba Yeah, found that out after the fact that it's 1.2, doesn't change the fact that Louis tanks 1.5 damage now.
While that is true, with how the meta is evolved and all the survivors that's come out of it, it's become way easier to just keep at a distance and pre drop against Nightmare. Additionally, his dash logic is still kinda bad, so you can often get stuck outside of the pallet still, allowing survivors to safely predrop.
buff joseph so whenever he takes a photo the survivors spontaneously combust
you know it
bro he's so pretty that i'd accept that
Poor Joseph needs something. I’d literally accept having the camera world clones be highlighted for a few seconds when the photo world is created.
10:56 zeez playing faro lady **throws dust in hunters eyes**
aaaa as a norton main im so upset with his nerf. i can understand a norton nerf for his magnet spamming, but why change the recharging speed? making the recharge 10s longer does nothing, making magnet cd longer would make so much more sense to me. maybe im just upset bc it feels like it takes so long already TT
dont worry, i thought the same. it's so unnecessary to me. i feel like nerfing forward would have made more sense tbh. prospector is easy to deal with, yes he can be annoying BUT it's still manageable and once he uses his 3 magnets, you're safe.
while forward is super annoying and can harass you for one minute straight. idk, im so sad norton is getting nerfed. :(
@@tweinty respectfully youre tapped, forward is hella weak and is only annoying due to the good players that play him. he heavily relies on risky moves to be any good. norton is used by everyone and their mother ofc he is going to get a nerf
@@YxnEugh tapped? why r u mad
@@tweinty i said respectfully lmfao, i swear some players have the most insane takes
@@YxnEughby the way forward have most big debuff to decoding (30%) it’s really a lot. No one survivor in the game has it. Except for the mechanic now she doesn't have it either
Geisha looking at Opera Singer asking: Am I a joke to you?
Axe boy buffed finally!
The Nightmare's translation is weird. Based on official translation I got from IDV Facebook group it supposed to be when you got hit with a pallet while "diving" with normal attack, you will get that "revelation" effect. The next time you eat a pallet again you will not be stunned and instead will break the pallet directly.
13:24 in chinese his name is 愛哭鬼 which literally translates to love, cry, and like bastard or something
so altogether it does indeed mean crybaby
MECH IS SO BACK.
Sadly the buff wasn't too big :c
@@wizardkumaanimations9984 good i was worried she'd be back in her prime
@@vkeibkeihow was she in her prime, I mean her Stats
Ah yes, see how I watched this video before doing my assignments and projects? Very demure, very mindful, very cutesy.
ME TOOOOOO
OMGGGGG
Finally, a decent nightmare buff. The fast pallet breaking is going to be insane and no more pallet camping
im still waiting for my edgar valden buff. i pray everyday that it will happen
so real
bring back his 3 paintings 🗣
Same but I'm still fine with his lastest buffs
ah yes I’m watching this instead of sleeping for class
im so excited for faro lady buff! I hope she gets better with this
6:53 what i think this means is like:
lets say louis already took 1 normal hitand then takes another one. Louis will get 0.25 of that damage (so a normal chip hit) by himself, and the rest of the damage (that goes onto matthias) will be shared with the servivors. my guess is this will mostly be useful during detention hermit
FARO LADY BUFFS ME AND HER TWO OTHER PLAYERS CHEERED
I have class is 30 mins and here I am watching zeez…
Real
MECHANIC BUFF WE ALL CHEERED
So excited for Tracys buff been a Tracy main since she came out and been playing since 2019 but still kinda mad about the bot debuff... when George practically decodes about the same as a normal decoder but I do agree it makes her slightly more balanced
ROBBIE AND ORPHEUS BUFF YEAHHHHHHH (please adjust luchino)
Luchino dont need adjustments pls hes just fine😭😭 hes my fav character i dont want them touching him anymore hes perfect now from what he used to be
@@jennaisela I just want him to not be bottom tier surv / tie hunter ಥ_ಥ
As a geisha main this is crazy. In the higher ranks every second matters and she literally didn’t need to be nerfed because imo she is one of the most easily countered hunters.
The nightmare thing was so bad, I would use the strat of camping the pallet and the hunter would awkwardly just walk instead of teleporting since they know.
Though the main defense for him is op teleport so… I actually see this as a general nerf Idk…
That nightmare adjustment translation is weird. That supposed to activate when you got hit by a pallet while "Diving" with normal attack instead of after teleporting.
@@eljae_kunoh so they didn’t fix it, it’s just a general thing. But the teleport nerf is still true?
Edit: WAIT THATS even worse survivors usually just stick behind a pallet and nightmare just hits the pallet, then walk through it to get a basic hit and if they get pallet stunned then what??
@@bubbles000I think it’s when surv would go a bit far from the pallet and then when nightmare dives it would always touch the pallet and smart surv would drop it before u hit them so it is rlly annoying since u cannot mindgame with dive
The Wu Chang bot swapping targets during the weepy kite 😭😭
I'm sorry, they're BUFFING Puppeteer??? I thought for sure that they would be nerfing him tbh. I swear, every single rank match that I got a hermit, Joseph or Sculptor, I wouldn't really be able to do anything because I would just die immediately and feed presence. This changes things quite a bit if the translation is accurate
i always thought of prospector as one of the most balanced characters in the game since like 2020/2021 (used to main him), but when i came back from a break i found out they had nerfed him… and now they are giving him another nerf… it hurts to see, man 😩
I honestly wanna see how balanced this game would be if they just buffed every weak survivor and hunter until all of them could be considered good, or at least decent lol
13:46 bot clipped you
NORTON DEBUFF NOOOOOOOOOO 😭😭😭😭😭 He gonna have Prof's scale cooldown per magnet now????
I agree with everything except Norton, I mean I can't decide if it's really Nerf? Magnet spam is not a way to play, meaning when all three are finished he is weaker than the lucky guy, but with this" Nerf" he always has one in his pocket, I think he has been weakened as a support only.
WHERES MY PAINTER BUFF IDV 🗣🗣⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️
i’m begging BEGGING for them to rework faro’s decoding ability it’s so bad
“And then u pop ur Louis “ is a sentence I didn’t think I’d ever hear
Definitely nerf for mechanic, her bot is the main decoder mechanic is supposed to rescue.
U get it !! As a Tracy main I don’t really like what they’re going for 😭 atp it’s just two main body tracys, using lucky guy could prob benefit more /hj
love the 6 AM uploads wow zeez good morning! TRACY BUFF LETS GOOO
As a Puppeteer main, I’m just happy to not be useless again Photographer anymore 😭
as a jojo main the louis buffff... 🫠🫠
A buddy and I tried messing around with Puppeteer's buffs now that it's out, mainly the hermit damage one, but I'm assuming that damage sharing is only from Hermit's abilities since normal hits don't do anything different. We didn't really know Hermit's abilities well enough to really test out the cipher damage ones since using Louis on a cipher isn't really something i considered.
So maybe we got something wrong about how it works or what. I'll probably wait until like a video example exists lol
I can't believe they why does it feel as if they nerfed nightmare, they did not fix his early game. They should have just made his speed boost permanent, either completely or just a small version, this way he is not able to get infinite looped on most windows. And his teleport being made to have a longer cooldown reduces the opportunity for him to use his ability a second time mid chase when the teleport isn't even strong cause of how slow it actually is. This feels like when they tried to reduce minds eye decoding buff and give her an ability to push back the hunters, they don't really understand how to fix the character. I got to like 40th nightmare in one week and stayed there for 2, he is weak, he has a terrible early game and is sort of saved by him snowballing at the end if people play bad, he needs to just be buffed and not nerfed, and buffed in the areas that actually matter. Make him be able to move and vault at a decent speed, and have him be able to see the poached survivors (the skill when he sees u for a bit) through walls if he is close to him. That way the hunter can focus on throwing the birds on the decoding survivors to reduce their decoding speed, and lastly make it so that he recovers faster if he dashes and hits a different survivor from the one poached, and make his first dash either reach half a meter longer or faster so that his first pressence isnt reduced to blink/warp dependant. Also the Geisha nerf is more about her being frustrating to play rather than her being strong
Faro ladys buff is AMAZING cause as a previous 3rd FL in some matches there would be times a hunter would get a lucky hit on you and then you would have to raw kite for the next 40s but now with this buff her inv will be much more consistent and be used more!!! Honestly this shouldve been a thing on her release to balance out the fact that you dont regain inv in downed or chaired state.
Is she gonna get played in coa? No but shes still a great character for solo queue
Ofc people are going to be mad at norton nerf, he is so popular but idk if they know he is so annoying to go against,,,
And dont get me wrong, he is fun to play- i just dont see a problem with the nerf really
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Idk why they even nerf Mechanic dolls cipher decoding speed since after all the item will gone after receiving two hits from hunter 😅
If they're also gonna be nerfing geisha's dash cooldown then buff her hitbox
The nerfs seem pretty fair as much as I love Geisha Her instant dashes are legit insane prospector Not the end of the world Despite what him mains are gonna say weeping seems pretty fair
I'm okay with the buffs Accept maybe Puppeteer I think him no longer being counter by any hunter Is a bit of a scratch Though I know this is not set in stone yet
Chip hunters are such a small part And then continuously buffing Survivors they once countered Is why you rarely see then Everything else about his adjustment seems deserved I just don't Like how his only counter is gonna be his players
yes my mech is getting a good buff and she wont decode like a turtle
axe boy mains we are so back
I agree with the faro lady buff but as a hunter main with no game sense its gonna make my head hurt from all the mind games 😢
i remember when i started playing mech because i got the futaba skin and when her 70% debuff happened i felt like it took me 1000yrs to decode a cipher--- it was crazy
puppeteer buff is crazy cuz now if ur 1 cheap u can use lewis and get ts without dying, like late game rn u need to be full health to tank a detention hit with lewis or the hunter would have to just wait 8s, but now u can use 2 lewis late game and waste 16s
Ooh 😭😭 well we'll see how it goes. I think most are fair i love that puppeteer and faro are getting buffs tho!
YIPPEE THIS MADE MY DAY even though its barely 7 in th morning...
Never i’ve been happier with the adjustments
THANKS FOR THE MATTHIAS CZERNIN BUFF YIPPPPPEEEEE
the only thing im happy about this is prospector nerf yall cant believed i played as hunter and out of all matches they all pick prospector with flywheel like
im a survivor main and seeing this.. i cant believe how blind survivors are mains... fr no wonder why hunter struggle.. like i see there even hunter that not even getting buff when they have mostly have zero pick rate like soul weaver, axe boy, nightmare, violinist, and yes even wuchang.. lets also include undead fr they need buff they deserve love pls netease buff them as a survivor main i also want to try them but there just so weak at early games
there just sometimes to easy to counter and with flywheel wuchang even look useless
fr why are people getting mad over his nerf?😭I play him a lot but let's be real his magnets are so cheap most of the time lmao he needed the nerf
It's an unnecessary nerf tbh
@@keithismychikibeibi6062 no the nerf was not needed you don't understand how it's gonna affect him
This is basically spirit fury from dbd for nightmare 17:19
me waiting for forward buff that they announced on q&a
NE : sorry, we totally forget about that but you can have this instead!
*NORTON NERF*
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nightmare buff idea when he throws a raven everyone automatically explodes and he gets a 4k
Nightmare buff and I can barely kite him already im COOKED
Yes ax boy buff!!
I hope the 50% is also vertical cuz ik going into church from the ground to the stairs mess up the speed but opera can still dash on her cape on that elevation difference
after idvclue translated the changes correctly this is the thing about nightmare:
-they still refuse to remove his speed debuff, they actually made it worse? he moves 13% SLOWER NOT IN CHASE now
-the percy effect on pallet only works if someone pallet stuns you MID-DASH, which not many people know how to do. so you'll go most matches without ever getting it because a) everyone will start pallet spamming instead of camping or b) even if they camp they wont be able to pallet stun you in dash
You are misunderstanding Nightmare's poach ability. Originally it is a 10% movement speed increase when not in chase. This is why you see high tier Nightmare look down during chase, so they get a 10% speed boost. It is a buff, where they increased it from 10% to 13% speed boost. The only Nightmare nerf is the increase in his teleport CD from 50 sec to 57 sec.
@@EstablishedGentleman thats an exploit and its called bad design. i know it CAN be done and i do it, im saying it should not exist and he should have that 10% back by default
@@ratspectorare you saying nightmare should move 10% faster at all times or...
@@Antonio-bs7rs yeah? most nightmare mains do the camera exploit and move 10% faster anyway it wouldn't make any difference for survivors just for the commodity of the hunter
@@ratspector there's still some risk-reward aspect to limiting your FOV by looking down, and nightmare can't permanently maintain the speed boost, he's gonna have to start chase eventually/check to see where a survivor is mindgaming. a base 5.1 m/s hunter (30% faster than a survivor) would be too oppressive, even if it is nightmare
I LITERALLY SCREAMED OH MY GOD TRACY BUFF FINALLY IM DEAD IM DECEASED 😭🙏🏼🙏🏼
11:53 i guess that it was meant to be tide turner
I think they mean faro lady’s cooldown is paused in tide if she has taken a hit? I’m not sure if that is what it would translate as close call. But it seems like the most plausible explanation.
I at least know that tide can sometimes be bad for her if her cooldown is below 20 seconds cuz then she’ll turn invisible and waste it
finally mech buff
i live everday for "hello identity 5 gamers!"
OH MY GOD CHAT NEW ZEEZ POST‼️‼️‼️‼️😼😼😼😼😼😼
I guess im just gonna see whats unfolding since i just play merc and gk most of the time🗿🔥
ROBBIE’S BUFF WOOOO ^0^
Yayaya
checking in for some vitamin zeez
I just woke up and saw it on twt NORTON NOOOOOOOOOO
the update removed luchinos scale sound when hunter hits it, im crying. or at least for me it doesnt sound
when is priestess getting nerfed though? grr and where is my painter and fool's gold buff??? also why is geisha getting nerfed lmao 😭this was insane but anygays let's celebrate the norton nerf at the very least
Why do they hate nightmare so much, i mean the buff is good but if that's possible only once it becomes a normal nightmare and the strategy can work again perfectly and increasing the bad omen recharging time to almost a whole minute is nuts, he's not even going to have the same map pressure that he has now and is probably going to make it worse because it's the only thing he has for map pressure.
As I nightmare main i say that the buff is not that much because usually when I teleport I get behind the pallet hitbox and when they drop it I don't get stunned very much often or probably are just survivors not positioning right for the pallet stun.
To make it fair at least the cool down shouldn't change or make the new effect usable not only one time but maybe 3 or 2
Bro I’m so happy about the Matthias buff (obviously) but everyone else is mad so I’ll be quiet…
Geisha nerf is in her prajna form not dash cooldown.
yeah I was going to say. Its such a nothing change.
@@apothisiii5549 yeah
I thought Toy Merchant also getting some buff/adjustment? If I recall correctly they said they're gonna improve her s tier acc (which they alr did) alongside an adjustment? or was I trippin
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well thats the fifth time now…
Ooof the Norton nerf worries me. I don’t play him but I’ve had really good Norton teammates in the past. So I worry about that new nerf to him. He really relies on those disks so….hmm :s overall I don’t play any of these characters. Also not my hunters either so I’m spared. Will see how the community reacts to all this.
norton nerf was needed. ppl are gonna have to start being more strategic w magnets rather than just spamming. it’s especially more annoying when he’s supporting others kite (especially when it’s last chair😭😭)
I thought the 16% was an increase in decoding for the mechs bot
i’m very happy with the mech buffs even if they are small, atleast it’s something. she’s one of my fav survs and it sucks that i can’t play her in rank bc she’s just so bad
TRACY TRACY TRACY TRACY BUFF
As a Joseph main, I fear the changes to Puppeteer…
TRACY BUFF!!!!
i think overall changes aren’t bad the faro one should make her a bit more fun to play
AXEBOY AND MECHANIC BUFFS? GOD IS REAL BECAUSE MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN AWNSERED!
Us puppeteer mains are eating letsgo
10:34 WHAT IS THIS FOR 😭😭😭
Puppeteer is going to be so annoying after this. I just learned a strategy to deal with him quickly and it's invalid now.
9:26 what is this why is my wife getting nerfed hello what what why why ...my world is over wtf!!!