Starlink vs. Telus: My Experience in Rural Alberta
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I recently signed up for Starlink's "better than nothing" beta, and decided to do a side by side test of what my experience has been with Telus Smart Hub for Rural Internet, versus what performance and experience comes right out of the box with Star link.
I have had a less than stellar experience with Telus, and before that, a horrendous experience with Xplornet, but I'm finally optimistic about my internet connection at pigeon lake. SpaceX, Starlink speed test, Starlink review 
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Check out part 2! Telus responds: ruclips.net/video/kmtMKhHB_Y4/видео.html
Starlink is going to let me realize my dream of moving out to the country and live in a cabin while I watch youtube all day.
Holy
it really does let you. before starlink i could only watch you in 144p or 240p with the slight chance of 360p but now with starlink my whole family can watch whatever they want at any quality.
Man this sounds so lazy and if society hadn’t predisposed me with the “working is important” mindset I would do the exact same 😆
@@Steph1 MGTOW life means your not beholding to society anymore. You can work much less, enjoy life much more!
@@SilverPaladin Yup. Something like Starlink isn't just internet, it's something that will enable us to pursue some freedom; all you need is some self reliance and be willing to put in some effort. I'm going to be looking seriously at picking up a large "useless" plot of land in Northern Canada.
I'm just happy to hear that here in Canada we FINALLY have some competition to Bell and Rogers
Yes, good for everyone. The Bell/Rogers mafia will have to improve their services and pricing structure to even stand a chance of keeping up.
@@workerworker7961 Starlink has a limited number of customers it can handle per square kilometer due to its configuration. It will be very good for rural folk but for most city dwellers, it won't even be an option, so will not be a threat to larger greedy ISPs anytime soon. As a whole, Starlink is a step in the right direction but hardly the answer to ISP/cellphone carrier corruption in North America.
In the remote locations - maybe. Near Toronto - good luck beating my Bell's 1Gbit fiber.
@@arvin6883 Unlikely.
@@arvin6883 You're delusional.
Starlink really is a game changer for the rural world.
As well as the international connections.
I’m about 50 km east of the person who posted this video.
Xplornet was awful here 4 years ago. They upgraded last year and we now get 40 to 60Mb d/l (drops to 20 to 25 at times) and less than 3 Mb u/l.
Now I don’t know whether to switch to Musk Link. He’s really brilliant and I expect this will get better.
How much power does this use? Is heating on 365 days a year?
@@Oilcruzer in another video I saw 140watts when it's heating. Only if it's cold obviously.
good for working online in the woods
If those slow ISPs do not behave Starlink will kick them out to bankruptcy
not really sure there is an "if" involved. Starlink will put several of these providers out of business
In rural, definitely. But I wouldn't ever replace my Fibre connection over Satellite internet. While I applaud Starlink for being able to reach such high speeds, they'll never match the 5000Mbps I get in Toronto.
All the ISP's need to do is invest in their future. A few briefcases full of money to the right politicians and they can get Starlink banned in Canada or just have the subscriptions taxed to the point that they're unaffordable.
No. It may try and get some chunk of the market in rural areas, but those are not the backbone of the telco revenues. They may be even happy to offload those not profitable customers to Starlink. And Starlink can't beat fiber in cities, meaning it would not achieve profitability.
No, I think ISPs in Canada will purposely pull out so they can focus on major cities instead of rural areas. Why try to compete with a company FOCUSING on rural areas and has much more access rather than focusing on what you do best.
I looked up your location: 52 NN. Lat. We just installed Starlink at our home in Northern New England (44.5 N.) and are seeing speeds up to 275 mbs down/30 mbs up/22-30 ms latency. Crazy fast when we are used to 1-3 mbs/down...unreliably. Total game-changer.
...and to think its still in beta.
I currently suffer with the only available isp, Xplornet, but our community leaders are considering Starlink! No more 900+ ping, finally some online gaming in this isolated community!
Your wifi router is reason for 55 mb limit on wifi. Actually it can be also client with older wifi adapters
This
I died laughing that i did the same thing with my router with the timer. lol
Ditto.
you are using a router made in China ..that's why you need to reboot it every night ..LOL
@@167mm167 Yikes those are borked DoA devices. Network equipment should not operate like that. This has nothing to do with China, I've used Asus & Netgear in the past their operations are entirely in China. But I typically get 2 Month UpTime where I have to manually shutdown for various reasons e.g. Storms causing brownouts.
"15days 14hrs 37mins" here is the uptime counter from my current router.
I've got a ZTE modem as well and don't have this issue. The unit has a battery backup and I've been able to connect remotely to my cottage all winter long. Occasionally I can't reach my cameras but a few hours later I'm able to connect back in. I only get 2-3 bars so I guess it depends on the signal strength from Rogers. Perhaps I have a slightly different model.
My parents live in town, have telus optic, whenever the power goes out (rare) all the telus hardware needs a hard reboot to get a connection working after power comes back on.
Haha, we're on a lake in Saskatchewan, use Rogers and we have the same ZTE hub and have the same experience. Needless to say our Starlink will be here in a couple of days.
Note that your speed will be shared with all other Starlink consumers around you. So you may be into some disappointment with some time.
Yes, I think that's why they have a limited number of subscribers in each 'cell'. Given the upgrades planned I'm not worried that performance will ever be reduced below our limited other options.
@@bobhawkey3783 Did you receive your kit yet?
@@philipe.9738 yes! 15 minute setup. Getting up to 225 down and 40 up max. Avg 150 and 20 as advertised. Very few outages. Completely satisfied.
@@bobhawkey3783 North of Saskatoon? Melfort?
Love the videos and variety of content, keep it coming! - fellow Edmontonian and long time Follower on your B.E.M channel!
Thanks! :)
Another fellow Edmontonian & follower of Best Edmonton Mall here! 😊
I knew that voice sounded familiar. I didn't realize it was him though
Pretty much the same experience on our acreage SW of Edmonton. Xplornet sucked, switched to Telus Hub - ended up putting external roof top antennas so we could get consistent 25/5 to work from home. I have a timer rebooting it twice a day just to keep it stable/connected with the tower!
Just got our StarLink dishy this week and installed it on the roof. 100M/15 on average! Welcome to the 21st century, my rural friends.
Thanks for the video, been looking then waiting for someone in my area to review. good job!!
This is exactly the review I was looking for, thank you! We’re out at Battle Lake.
I heard starlink will have 300Mbps & less than 30ms ping by end of the year.
Yes, I've heard similar. But even at it's 'beta' speeds, it's already blowing the competition out of the water!
elon musk goal is to have 1gb/s
100Mps /20ms are what most beta are getting right now. No data caps right now.
I highly doubt they will offer more than the current speeds for the casual user. Their satellites don't have the bandwidth.
And SpaceX like any other company, wants to make money. So more customers with lower bandwidth is the way to go.
@@akyhne they will probably have different speed with diddrent bandwidth packages.
99$ per month is way too expensive especially for underdeveloped countries where the government isnt able to provide fiber optics
Spacex core market would be underdeveloped countries, and for underdeveloped countries 100 -150 MBps speed is God send, as the speed in these countries is usually less than 2 MBp/s
I will be super content with 100-150 mbps speed, as my current speed is less than 3 mbps
But I cannot pay 99 $ /month, it's just below the medium wage here...(lebanon )
This is a great vid! Thank you for this i am very close to you just outside calmar and i am currently waiting on my starlink!
Great video and its super nice to get a local experience with the Starlink system!
Wow! what a cookout, and nice video..
Thanks for the upload. I put my deposit in for starlink a month or two ago. Just waiting on the hardware. Hopefully I get it
Thanks for the info, I had Xplornet (horrible pings) I managed to get Telus to get full bars while being 38km from the tower with a yagi antenna but the interment shut downs were still there. Starlink is looking pretty good.
For those of us that from the US, the prices are in Canadian dollars. My invite quoted $500 + $99 month
Thx🤣🤣
Nice to see local Alberta results from Starlink. Thanks for testing and sharing
Thanks for the great video..
I've had the Smarthub since it's inception in Alberta Beach but mine is a Huawei router, and I've had rock solid 25 Mb/s down and up ever since day one, and they just put up another tower less than a 1/4 mile away. $120.0 for 1 terabyte a month.
I know they can deliver well over 100 Mb/s, so I'm pretty sure when Starlink becomes more prominent in the area, they will bump up the speeds to compete..
I had Xplornet before the Smarthub and all I can say is I hope Starlink puts them out of business FOREVER..
I'm glad you liked my video! I see you're a fellow Xplornet fan. ;)
"I hope Starlink puts them out of business FOREVER" we can only hope...
I was getting 85 down load when smarthub first came out then they throttled it to 25
ping though
@@emko333 I can play GTA 5 and RdR2 without laggin
Thank you. I'm impressed you get better speeds with Telus than we get on our phones in rural Virginia (USA). Our WISP system gets about 8Mbps. Already on the list for STarlink.
thanks for this, it gives me hope. we(my work) have a site in rural southern ab that has gone through all the same steps as you. after a couple of weeks of me talking about how this could solve their probs, they caved and ordered a kit.
I do believe that Starlink will be the way to go for me in our rural Texas location, when it becomes available. Until then, I did opt for a rather pricey cell signal booster, that has a unidirectional antenna mounted outdoors on the roof, pointed towards the very distant cell tower, and the booster rebroadcasts the signal indoors. We're getting significantly better cell data experience with this setup, but it was an additional $500-ish equipment outlay.
Went from using Arrow technology, testing out the telus smart hub and currently using xplornet i cant wait for my starlink kit to get here next week :D
Thanks for the review, super helpful.
i feel your pain my friend. just ordered my starlink today!! so excited!! i’m just 10 minutes outside of Penhold and we had to switch from xplornet to the telus hub and we wouldn’t see more then 10mbps at any time, can’t even watch netflix man. thanks for the great review man, really appreciate it can’t wait to join the club!!
I just got starlink myself, my tests far exceeded yours for some reason. I use my own router (dlink) and i get speeds often in the early 200mbps download end 20 to 40 upload. I got peaks of almost 400mbps download as well. I am myself and IT senior network admin. Ensure your router can even handle WAN throughput that large and that the firmware is up to date. Most routers have a wan throughput limitation far less the gigabit speed.
I am in saskatchewan around the national park area
love the DIY and easy setup
amazing video. just so cool to see such high speed on a Satellite broadband
Thank you!!
Thanks for the demo of Starlink. I think that's going to be your best bet, for now. I like that it has a built in anti-icing coil! Brilliant! :)
He's actually wrong on the anti-icing coil, it just naturally uses a lot of power (at least right now) and so it stays warm.
At 4:45, your should test with a wired connection. I suspect your "slow" Starlink may be due your TP-link WiFi
the answer
Thanks for the video and great info! I've been dreaming and waiting for remote access internet for a very long time, and it looks like this is it. If this takes subscribers away from Telus, Bell, Rogers and Shaw, then all the better.
Thanks for the video! I think Dishy McFlatFace enjoys the snow, it blends quite well.
I’m so glad I found this video! We’re buying a property and will need reliable speed for our business. I’d just gotten off the phone with Xplornet when I saw your video. Definitely looking into Starlink.
Great video and info! I just subscribed! You make a good case for Starlink… it’s not cheap but only a bit more than what I pay for cable (aside from the startup equipment cost) and it’s literally 4x faster!
I might get this for my van down by the river.
is that where you broadcast motivational speeches from?
Thank you so much for this. We're practically neighbors (we live near Breton) and you're telling our story as well starting out with Xplornet, first wifi, then satellite, and moving on to telus hub. It looks like we'll be giving Starlink a shot this fall. The cost for a telus hub to pay outright is $400 which isn't that much less than Starlink's $650.
Great video! I’m out by sylvan and use a smart hub with a booster. I’m 22km from the tower. I’ve got up to 50 down but average around 20. Lately however it’s gotten brutally slow and unreliable. So I just pulled the trigger on starlink. How’s it been now after a few months
greta video, I just bought a starlink for my mum, cant wait for it to arrive.
Great content thank you!
Great information. Thank you.
Very well done video %) Thanks!
What WiFi mode are you using on your TP-LINK router? If using 802.11a/g you will be limited to around 54Mbps (which seems to align with what you are seeing). If you have 802.11n capability you should be able to see improved throughput.
Hi! Thanks for the informative video. Very helpful as I am trying to find a good internet provider for our place.
We are on the wait list for Starlink currently. I was told that Starlink wasn't available to those living in northern Alberta yet, how did you get it so quickly! lol
Do you know how far you were from the nearest tower? I am setting this up on a property near Entwistle, AB. I am about 4 kms from the nearest tower as the crow flies. Two years of tech advancement have gone by since you made these comparison videos, the kits now come with a 5G outdoor hub and stand, as well as the newest router. I'm very curious as to the service I will get. This was my best option on my rural internet budget. Fingers crossed.
Did you try external directional (yagi) antennas for your 4g connection?
Relying on tiny low gain omnidirectional cellular antennas on the interior of a building is killing your chances of success to get a good signal to a distant tower.
(Enjoy the starlink, looks awesome, just posting for others who might see this comment)
well done video, some good details
Thanks!
Wow nice am in Kenya got any idea how I can get this over here currently it's not available over here
Excellent video, amazing while I am watch your video I get a commercial , guess who ,Telus. So happy big brother is looking out for me.In due time I to will take the starlink plunge.
Thanks for sharing.
I’m getting 80-170mbps down and 15-30 mbps upload over my beta starlink
I have also a cabin in the woods and I use the same TELUS router for my Internet. I managed to increase my speed from 20-40Mbps to 60-70Mbps with two yagi directional antenas setup in a 90 degree angle and pointing out to the aprox. location of the cell tower (I used a free app in my phone to try to locate it and it worked fine). The total additional investment was under the 200 CAD mark, including the antennas, cables, adapters and a pole. I got most of that stuff new from Uniden with the exception of the second antenna that was a used one from same brand but listed in ebay. I am not antenna expert, I just got all this information from different sources on the Internet. I tested this in the city first and then moved it to the cabin and the speed increase was pretty much the same. In my case the antennas are outside.
I really enjoyed the video. An honest expression of the experience obtained by using Starlink service through a professionally made documentary video. Good job!
one thing to remember with the Telus plans.......these are only available in Alberta......for anywhere else, its even more outrageous
Thanks for the video.
I have the same problem with my Telus LTE hub in Alberta, I put the hub on a lamp module attached to my security system so I could reset it from my phone it drove me crazy to lose our security cameras for days until we got back, my security system has a separate LTE connection. I had to permanently pull out the battery ON MY ZTE modem so that the lamp module turning off would actually power cycled the unit. My Starlink arrives tomorrow! Thanks for the video!
This is perfect. I am moving from a large city in AB out to the country. I work remote 100% so Starlink is my only option aside from LTE, so seeing these speeds makes me confident I can do it without issues. Thanks for the review.
This makes me want to dream an off grid cabin from this video. Besides Pigeon Lake, is there any more location on where we can build a cabin for ourselves?
In Alberta check out Lower Therein Lake - it's far more affordable.
Nice video. You forgot to mention how long you spent at the Telus store buying the modem and going through the activation process. I am in Missouri and love my Starlink !
I'm going square. After 1 year and some upgrades to the dish, this looks like a better form format, much more attractive. I'm in central Saskatchewan, and just got my invitation this week, purchased my dish and it will be delivered on March 15th. 7 days after order it will have arrived at my home. I'm so looking forward to increasing my internet speed
I'm from South Africa, I used to have an ADSL connection that was usually around 2mbps download and 500kbps-1mbps upload. Then Fibre launched in my area and now I have 500mbps download and 300mbps upload. It's amazing to use, I can work while downloading/updating games all while family are home using the internet and I wouldn't notice a change. It has never cut out since I got it (2 years ago). Plus it is uncapped so it is even more free for me to use.
It shows that Starlink is in the right market for rural area. There are many limitation with conventional internet in rural area
Excellent info, what is the manufacturer's name of your e-bike?
External mounted directional antenna for your LTE router?
Also when you connected your TP-link, i doubt that model is an AC1200 dual channel? probably why you maxing at 50mb/s
Thanks for the info.
4:32
This part really reminds me of these scam advertisements with that music and "oh wow it's a wonder!", but this time its actually genuine lol
We are on Telus Smart Hub and just ordered Starlink a month ago. I hate Smart hub and cant wait for starlink. Not sure when we will get it, hopefully soon.
Pigeon lake is north of the Starlink latitude specified on their website. Did you order it to an address within the range and then set it up in pigeon lake? Asking since I’m close the pigeon lake.
You should consider mounting up off the ground and keep an eye on it in the winter. I saw video someone put up on RUclips showing the snow melted off the top and froze into an icicle and froze the disk to one of the feet and broke the moter that moves it
(Former cable tech and expert in home Wifi)My first reaction is that you need a better router/Wifi access point. Your speed tells me you are using the 2ghz connection. If your router has a 5ghz option available, use that while indoors. The range isn’t as good but the speed is.
2.4ghz wireless g or n maxes out around 45-55mbps
5ghz wireless n maxes out around 90-95mbps
5ghz wireless ac theoretically maxes out at 1gbps but I have not had an opportunity to test this in the real world. However it would easily cover your 108mbps.
ive been eyeing starlink for a while now but i get really good speeds from smarthub (about 25Mbps), the one thing that busts my chops is that i have a security system that requires a static ip for wan side connections, i have to tunnel to a vps to get a static ip but i would rather just get one from the isp, do you know if you have the option for a static ip?
How long did you have to wait?, I signed up 2 weeks ago and have heard nothing back
I paid the $129 a couple weeks ago. How long till they shipped yours out when you paid?
When did you order and how long for delivery?
You didn't run a cell booster with the smart hub?
Thanks for the review, does the Starlink have hard wire option for desktop PC?
From their router, there is a way to connect hardwire, yes.
... great info and food 🍻
So I want to get in this even though im in a city this is only going to get even better, where can you order one?
Starlink is awesome! I can't wait to see how much better it becomes when the constellation is complete. Also lowering the cost of the dish would help a lot, I'm sure they're trying to do something about that.
The disk is really a $2500 cost. Starlink is eating $2k per. For a little perspective, I paid $480 in 1981 for a 300baud Hayes smart modem. So I would pay full price to get this dish. My current provider is getting me 300kbps. I need Starlink :)
the monthly cost should be the first goal to lower. a $500 upfront for the dish isn't so bad, that's the cost of a modern gaming console. But you'll be paying more than double that in the monthly subscription per year if it stays at $100 USD
@@brentnorrod300 2500 dollars ? Nar . The antennae part is relatively cheap to make . The main cost is in the motorised alignment , but 2500$ for the lot , I can't see that . In todays mass manufacturing , some molded plastic parts , a bit of electronics and a motor gearbox , maybe 2 ? maybe 3-400 dollars MAX .
Thanks for this. Considering Starlink for a rural Nova Scotia property!
I get months of uptime from the identical model of smarthub on Telus.. So I wonder if your experience is closer to typical, or mine is? I get much faster speeds too. Bell and Telus use the same network, so the better results on your Bell phone suggest that a new smarthub (perhaps a different model, rather than just a different unit) would probably make a difference.
How long did it take from ordering your kit to arrival?
Hey there, the misses and I are planning a move to rural Alberta (Buck Lake region) soon and we were hoping to hear if you have any updates on your StarLink experience? Btw, thanks a bunch for this initial review 👍🙌
Still great speeds, very few downtime periods - and they're getting more infrequent as time goes on. Still my choice for rural internet.
I’m having the exact same experience with Smarthub. I live south west of Calgary. Telus oversubscribed the tower in our area and the solution was to point to a more distant tower in the opposite direction. (Btw I put up my own tower and directional antenna years ago which helped but never got close to the promised performance). I signed up for Starlink and cannot wait to get on board this summer. Goooooo Tesla!!
How about internet connection and stability by bad weather conditions like rain, snow, and dark cloudy?
I am amazed how many people test StarLink internet throughput via a wifi connection vs. a wired connection and share their concerns about slow speeds.
Hey neighbor! (i'm at Buck Lake)
Thanks for the info, this is probably getting me to switch too. Xplornet was so garbage I went back to Telus net over phone line.. 6Mbps too.
Howdy! And yes, Xplornet is garbage.
What do you do for a living if you don’t mind me asking. You’re living a pretty decent life in rural Alberta. Would love to live like this someday.
I am located near Rockport Ontario. I have had my beta unit for a couple weeks. I find the Starlink quite variable in speed...and the one application it doesn't work well for me is a ZOOM meeting (no buffering like RUclips)....it starts and stops the feed, so when it's not connected, you lose that portion of the video call. It doesn't disconnect from ZOOM...I have reported to Starlink on their "contact support" and they say they are working on it. I have had two ZOOM calls over the past week and performance was the same. I still have my "other provider" and when I switch back to them, the ZOOM call works. But this service is really only a 20Mbps service maximum.
where can i test starlink in holland
I recognize that deck and swing!
how do i get involved with the beta im also in alberta an could really use this out side of for mac in northern Alberta
Hey there
I’m in Montreal but would love to go to cottages in Quebec and work out of there. Do you think you would get similar performance if you took Starlink around Alberta?
Yes, I think so. It's supposed to be up to 300 Mbps for all of North America by the summer.
I stayed at a cabin on Pigeon Lake during the fort mcmurray fires, and got an explorenet connection for the month I was there. you said it right. Abysmal. Lovely area though!
I want to go to one of your BBQ's,,That looked so good.
I ordered my starlink early February when I was informed that I could now pre order . They took my deposit $129 , said it would hold my place . Or something like that .
I’ve been waiting ever since and have heard nothing . Meanwhile there are people close to my residence. Within a few kilometres, that ordered, confirmed full payment instantly, and have received their dish . Up and running .
Very frustrated as I have no way of contacting anyone for support. Even just to confirm that my payment has been recognized, and I’m still “in line “ to receive it when it becomes available to me . Though I cannot see why It shouldn’t be available to me now , as there are multiple households that have it and are up and running with great results by the way .
Just putting this out there with the hopes that someone else has dealt with this , or might have a support line I haven’t found , that can help me .
Thanks for any help
How did you get this so quickly? I signed up and did the preorder. Thanks, Rick, another disgruntled smart hub owner.