Thank you both so much for being real, honest and vulnerable! It’s so rare to see media men/ celebrities get real about matters that too many of us are afraid to discuss or be vulnerable enough to share. Grew up having massive admiration for Allen Wu from the amazing race days. It’s moving to hear his “Singaporean” local POV with such realness.
The irony is that one needs to hustle till almost at brink of health colllapse when young, to earn and save up enough, in order to be able to say "money isn't everything", "health is more important" when they are older. Telling a young person whose body can still take a beating that "money isn't everything", feels like a disconnect. Money IS everything, at least here in SG. Just how much and at what price. The key is knowing when to tell ourselves it is time to dial down the hustle and prioritise other things that matters, such as health and relationships (but only after the money for basic needs are firmly secured).
This podcast is very assuring, I'm a man in thirties and I totally relate. From a third person point of view, I also kinda feel for men out there that are struggling to meet the expectations of society.
Great talk by both to discuss issues commonly faced by men in Singapore. I feel like as men we seldom discuss things on platforms like these unlike the women, and it’s time for us to communicate more.
We're glad you found the conversation valuable, and we hope to encourage more men to share their experiences and insights. Thank you for being part of the conversation!
I took a pay cut to enable myself to be at home most of the time to spend time with my family and for my own health. Never regretting it. Sometimes salary is not everything but of course I'm probably one of the few lucky ones to still able to have this option.
People in Singapore are absolutely more hung up on materials than in many other countries. We are so brought up that way. Our social fabric is woven like that. Its part of the “culture” 😅. So we have to make a very conscious effort to not be. Especially for me being in the “glamorous” financial industry, my Zen journey had to be a very conscious one right from the start.
Thank you for sharing your insights! It’s true that our environment and upbringing can heavily influence our values. Your journey towards finding balance and simplicity in a demanding industry is inspiring. We appreciate your perspective and hope our discussions can help foster more awareness around these important issues.
there's even more pressure on being a "man" than ever. But actually a lot of females don't look for luxuries, sure there's some kind of basic standard like giving small gifts and buying meals. We will never be ready, keep hustling, keep fit.
Appreciate the honesty. I gotta say though, if Bobby has to worry abt a 5k emergency expense for his dog, that sounds like a paycheck to paycheck existence and likely low savings/reserves
Unfortunately there is no governance over Vets and what they charge now. It’s absolutely crazy. An MRI for one shoulder can run $4500. A human maybe 1k
Great conversation and agreeing on two things: it's always a moving target and at some point we realized that we don't need any of this sh*t. That being said, I feel that this perspective comes from a place of privilege. Before reaching that point, life often felt like a hamster wheel.
Great discussion and hope the pod continues the theme of discussing topics people are uncomfortable broaching, particularly in Singapore. I like the masculine skew on the opening topic as well- us Men could use a platform! Lookin forward to the next one
@@btonelli My pleasure. Perhaps as 2 more mature men, you could discuss how the pair of you have navigated the complexities of dating as an older man- did you find that you had a wider selection pool as you accumulated more status with age or did you face more challenges? Also keen to hear about your routines when it comes to mental & physical well being- what are the habits you inculcate, what are the challenges, the things you wished you could do better etc- just bouncing off some ideas!
@@ArvinSingh-xv2qj love those! We have a dating episode coming up that does touch on some of that. It may be the next one or right after, need to check with our producer. Yes the physical and mental wellbeing is something we should get into more too.
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It will nvr be enough once one's priorities are about money. The moment one reaches 20k pm they will only want more, at the sacrifice of many other more precious things
I think you need to at least set some criteria on what is considered "comfortable" living before a meaningful salary number can be derived. E.g. owning a car is really expensive. Is that part of "comfortable"?
That's a great point! Defining what "comfortable" living means can vary significantly based on individual circumstances and lifestyle choices. Thank you for contributing to the conversation!
its true... i find myself not searching for a partner because i have student tuition debts + don't think I'm making enough money to even get into a relationship. cant even get a house myself too because of the 35yo age requirement for btos, and condos are way out of my league in terms of income
if you can find a wife who is extremely ok with living with less, then you will be a very fortunate man because of lesser financial pressure. But it doesn't mean one should slacken and not try their best to earn more
These men are the men that women sleep with when they’re young then settle down with the boring but richer nerds when the women approach the wall. This nature of women has been known for thousands of years hence the Chinese saying: 东食西宿 Everyone loses in this game. The real winners are those who see the game for what it is and choose not to play.
$10k and above monthly is great but in what expense. If it comes with tremendous stress and not enough time with family etc then I would say you're actually poor.
I would say 90% of the people out there want to know what someone does. Honestly, I don't care. I just feel, do we vibe, do we click, what interests do we have? what's the personality like? what kind of life do you want? what's your expectations, and also what level are you yourself at? at the end of the day would be priorities really.
@@Shawn-pq5gp I guess it depends on one’s background. If they are financially stable they may be looking for someone that has drive and interests but money isn’t the most important. If someone comes from humble beginnings they may look for what could be a financial benefit in a partner. Especially in todays market of consumerism and the pressures that come with that, some decisions aren’t made just on compatibility alone
lol..bobby is hanging out with the wrong bunch. Most people I met don’t give a crap about designer goods anymore cos we already experienced owning those and have tons in the store room somewhere and hardly ever use. It becomes expensive junk and it’s heavier to carry than regular cheap bags with no labels.
Thank you both so much for being real, honest and vulnerable! It’s so rare to see media men/ celebrities get real about matters that too many of us are afraid to discuss or be vulnerable enough to share.
Grew up having massive admiration for Allen Wu from the amazing race days. It’s moving to hear his “Singaporean” local POV with such realness.
Allan
The irony is that one needs to hustle till almost at brink of health colllapse when young, to earn and save up enough, in order to be able to say "money isn't everything", "health is more important" when they are older.
Telling a young person whose body can still take a beating that "money isn't everything", feels like a disconnect. Money IS everything, at least here in SG. Just how much and at what price.
The key is knowing when to tell ourselves it is time to dial down the hustle and prioritise other things that matters, such as health and relationships (but only after the money for basic needs are firmly secured).
after a certain age, choosing peace is far more important than everything else.
Agree. Usually that's in your late 50's and 60's
@@btonelli nah buddy. Late 30s here. Been married and divorced. I just focus on my hobbies and children now. Women are EXPENSIVE.
@@kiddytube3915 sorry to hear about the divorce. Hope all is okay! What are your hobbies?
@@kiddytube3915sounds like you had a pretty tumultous family life. And that wears down every decent man. Hope things are smoother now
@@btonelliThat mentality came to me in my early 40s. Retired at 50. 😊
Actually the older i got, the simpler i prefer. Simplicity is super under-rated.
Absolutely! Allan is glad you can resonate with that perspective. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us!
Really appreciate the balance that Allan brings to the convo! Pleasantly surprised by his down to earth outlook on this topic
This podcast is very assuring, I'm a man in thirties and I totally relate. From a third person point of view, I also kinda feel for men out there that are struggling to meet the expectations of society.
@@BomoBomo-go6wt it’s very challenging now and it seems that society overlooks this and how men feel
Great talk by both to discuss issues commonly faced by men in Singapore. I feel like as men we seldom discuss things on platforms like these unlike the women, and it’s time for us to communicate more.
True. That’s the goal of this series. Thanks for the support
We're glad you found the conversation valuable, and we hope to encourage more men to share their experiences and insights. Thank you for being part of the conversation!
I took a pay cut to enable myself to be at home most of the time to spend time with my family and for my own health. Never regretting it.
Sometimes salary is not everything but of course I'm probably one of the few lucky ones to still able to have this option.
well said
Love Allan’s energy and Bobby’s frankness and sharing. 🙏 ❤
Liked and Subscribed
@@lurvecr thank you. 🙏 hope you like our future episodes
Thank you so much for the support! Stay tuned for more engaging discussions, and welcome to the Take Off TV community! 😊
No money no talk to summarize this video ❤
People in Singapore are absolutely more hung up on materials than in many other countries. We are so brought up that way. Our social fabric is woven like that. Its part of the “culture” 😅. So we have to make a very conscious effort to not be. Especially for me being in the “glamorous” financial industry, my Zen journey had to be a very conscious one right from the start.
It’s hard to be simple here especially when our work is judged by achievements and some of that definitely shown by what we have, drive and wear.
Thank you for sharing your insights! It’s true that our environment and upbringing can heavily influence our values. Your journey towards finding balance and simplicity in a demanding industry is inspiring. We appreciate your perspective and hope our discussions can help foster more awareness around these important issues.
there's even more pressure on being a "man" than ever. But actually a lot of females don't look for luxuries, sure there's some kind of basic standard like giving small gifts and buying meals. We will never be ready, keep hustling, keep fit.
Appreciate the honesty. I gotta say though, if Bobby has to worry abt a 5k emergency expense for his dog, that sounds like a paycheck to paycheck existence and likely low savings/reserves
Unfortunately there is no governance over Vets and what they charge now. It’s absolutely crazy. An MRI for one shoulder can run $4500. A human maybe 1k
Vet fees for pets are no joke in SG. A good review one is most likely going to charge a premium for their consultation or treatment method.
@@arsenal_84 it’s actually ridiculous and no one is governing the pricing
Its only when you're beginning you crave for stuff but that changes as you get older.
Hey guys.
Off tangent but... where did you get your couch? It looks really low maintenance. Thanks!
Not sure, Will ask
@@btonelli awesome possum! Thanks!
Great conversation and agreeing on two things: it's always a moving target and at some point we realized that we don't need any of this sh*t. That being said, I feel that this perspective comes from a place of privilege. Before reaching that point, life often felt like a hamster wheel.
Thanks and very true. I personally had a moment where all the brand chasing wasn’t worth it. Valuable lesson 😊
Thanks for doing this! Subscribed!
@@jem8965 thanks for watching!!
Thank you for subscribing! Stay tuned for more great content, and we appreciate your support! 🎉
Great discussion and hope the pod continues the theme of discussing topics people are uncomfortable broaching, particularly in Singapore. I like the masculine skew on the opening topic as well- us Men could use a platform! Lookin forward to the next one
@@ArvinSingh-xv2qj really appreciate it. Definitely more to come and will cover a variety of topics. What topics would you like us to discuss?
@@btonelli My pleasure. Perhaps as 2 more mature men, you could discuss how the pair of you have navigated the complexities of dating as an older man- did you find that you had a wider selection pool as you accumulated more status with age or did you face more challenges? Also keen to hear about your routines when it comes to mental & physical well being- what are the habits you inculcate, what are the challenges, the things you wished you could do better etc- just bouncing off some ideas!
@@ArvinSingh-xv2qj love those! We have a dating episode coming up that does touch on some of that. It may be the next one or right after, need to check with our producer. Yes the physical and mental wellbeing is something we should get into more too.
@@btonelli Looking forward to it!
@@ArvinSingh-xv2qj We're glad to update that today's episode is about dating after the age of 40! Watch this space :)
Allan Wu is in AMAZING shape but OMG can he go back to short hair please?
The current hairstyle doesn't do his face justice.
@@byron4486 Allan is in his “Point Break” phase 😂
He is balding, thus the choice of long hair plus a cap, i believe
make your channel fly!!!
@@greyzonee8242 already off to a good start 👍
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see who's talking... the rich and famous of course.
wow 10-20K salary definitely not for the average peasant here
Depends on one’s lifestyle and expenses. Being a foreigner in Singapore definitely adds to the cost of living.
the rental and car mthly payments alone could be 12k a mth already
@@tritonyeah exactly. Not including food and other amenities
It will nvr be enough once one's priorities are about money. The moment one reaches 20k pm they will only want more, at the sacrifice of many other more precious things
@@xfall86 depends really, but yes there needs to be balance. Pursuing money for the goal of having it or the need to provide.
Great convo
I think you need to at least set some criteria on what is considered "comfortable" living before a meaningful salary number can be derived. E.g. owning a car is really expensive. Is that part of "comfortable"?
That's a great point! Defining what "comfortable" living means can vary significantly based on individual circumstances and lifestyle choices. Thank you for contributing to the conversation!
its true... i find myself not searching for a partner because i have student tuition debts + don't think I'm making enough money to even get into a relationship.
cant even get a house myself too because of the 35yo age requirement for btos, and condos are way out of my league in terms of income
if you can find a wife who is extremely ok with living with less, then you will be a very fortunate man because of lesser financial pressure. But it doesn't mean one should slacken and not try their best to earn more
Agree 100%
In showbiz, women earn more but for a short duration, men earn less but have more staying power.
Come on Bobby, you have been here long enough to be considered local…lah. 😅😊
Low maintenance & simple girl are so rare these days..
Can’t relate. Too ugly to date and ended up saving and investing instead. Right now I’m 10 years younger but retired.
isn't 20k put u in top 10% in sg?
how come these dads so good looking and cool lol
@@garlicbread68 good lighting haha 😂
These men are the men that women sleep with when they’re young then settle down with the boring but richer nerds when the women approach the wall. This nature of women has been known for thousands of years hence the Chinese saying: 东食西宿
Everyone loses in this game. The real winners are those who see the game for what it is and choose not to play.
$10k and above monthly is great but in what expense. If it comes with tremendous stress and not enough time with family etc then I would say you're actually poor.
I want to be bobby tonelli’s insurance agent
Help me with Pet insurance:)
I would say 90% of the people out there want to know what someone does. Honestly, I don't care. I just feel, do we vibe, do we click, what interests do we have? what's the personality like? what kind of life do you want? what's your expectations, and also what level are you yourself at?
at the end of the day would be priorities really.
@@Shawn-pq5gp I guess it depends on one’s background. If they are financially stable they may be looking for someone that has drive and interests but money isn’t the most important. If someone comes from humble beginnings they may look for what could be a financial benefit in a partner. Especially in todays market of consumerism and the pressures that come with that, some decisions aren’t made just on compatibility alone
@@Shawn-pq5gp In a non business informal setting, i never ask people what they do. Thats becos i rather chat about other things, not work! Haha
HI take off tv, do you all mind trying to put type of questions you all are asking ?
@@ismeee82 what do you mean?
@btonelli example like the daily ketchup
They put in different segment such as introduction,scene behind the amazing race etc
@@ismeee82 good idea
Austria top 3x3
I think 20k is on the low side. I mean comeon lets be pragmatic. We should be looking at 50k right? RIGHT?
Would love that!
lol..bobby is hanging out with the wrong bunch. Most people I met don’t give a crap about designer goods anymore cos we already experienced owning those and have tons in the store room somewhere and hardly ever use. It becomes expensive junk and it’s heavier to carry than regular cheap bags with no labels.
Bobby is hanging out with the weong friends :'(
Tonelli should not shave. I like him better with a full beard
@@dudeinaloha thanks 😊 maybe one day I’ll grow it back
In contrast, daddy Allan needs to shave and go back to short hair asap
$10k a month but is the spouse working too?
Not According to Allan 😂
20k a month you're having a laugh
12:10 Yeah 💪
Allan is getting bald, hence the cap