The Biggest US Cities With No Suburbs

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  • ✵ The Biggest US Cities With No Suburbs
    ✵ Suburbs, a modern form of expansion found in cities all across the country. Since the 1950s, these suburban communities have popped up on the edge of major metropolitan areas throughout America for several reasons. Suburbs have become very controversial, taking character away from cities and becoming very dull and lifeless, and though you can be on either side of the argument, it’s still alot simpler and nice to see cities where most, if not all of the metropolitan area is taken up by one city, so today I wanted to go over some major instances of this and talk about what it does to these cities.
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  • @borealssb1384
    @borealssb1384 11 месяцев назад +452

    Jacksonville doesn't have suburbs. Jacksonville IS a gigantic suburb. Everything is so spread out

    • @namanjames4
      @namanjames4 11 месяцев назад +12

      That’s kinda sad

    • @general-i15
      @general-i15 11 месяцев назад +8

      Nocatee exists, though.

    • @SISKCERTWaJaVlogs
      @SISKCERTWaJaVlogs 11 месяцев назад +22

      i consiter jacksonville just a giant town just like san antonio

    • @LucidFL
      @LucidFL 11 месяцев назад +14

      Its the size of a county, so it always distorts statistics.

    • @Dhi_Bee
      @Dhi_Bee 11 месяцев назад +20

      I came here to comment the same. In 1968, they basically turned 99% of Duval county into one big city when in reality it was just several small towns & suburbs even the downtown/original boundary was small in comparison to Tampa, Miami, Ft. Lauderdale, West Palm, St. Pete, & Orlando.

  • @zeroone8800
    @zeroone8800 11 месяцев назад +164

    You forgot Honolulu. Legally the city is the entire island of Oahu which is also the metropolitan area borders. It is smaller than Jacksonville and has a larger population. You probably missed it as the Census uses "Urban Honolulu" (which is not even the entire densely populated area) as the city instead of the actual legal entity.

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 11 месяцев назад +10

      Yeah, it's really a matter of definitions though. Upscale places like Mililani, Ewa Beach, and parts of Kapolei definitely fit the template of suburbs, even if they are not legally separate.

    • @Selmarya
      @Selmarya 11 месяцев назад +5

      You could say the same for Anchorage, because none of its suburbs surpass 10,000 people and the few ones it has make up a small bit of the metro

    • @zeroone8800
      @zeroone8800 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@mirzaahmed6589 All the places you name are still part of the fifth densest Urban Area in the country.

    • @rowdyjman94
      @rowdyjman94 8 месяцев назад

      The area the census uses starts a few blocks past the H3/H201 interchange and ends at the eastern end of oahu

    • @rowdyjman94
      @rowdyjman94 8 месяцев назад

      @@mirzaahmed6589 don't forget wahiawa, aiea, pearl city, kaneohe, kailua, waimanalo, waipahu, halawa & probably a few smaller suburbs considered by the census as "CDP"s

  • @therealmcromano319
    @therealmcromano319 11 месяцев назад +96

    People fundamentally misunderstand suburbs, they didn’t just pop up out of nowhere, most were previously established small towns that were engulfed by the growth of a larger nearby city

    • @railroadforest30
      @railroadforest30 11 месяцев назад +11

      They are engulfed by growth and contribute to the growth

    • @albertsovenskiy6140
      @albertsovenskiy6140 11 месяцев назад +2

      This is what happened with Albany. Most of the surrounding suburbs are actually cities that used to be separated but are now connected. Like Schenectady, Troy, Watervleit, Cohoes, etc.

    • @TH-qb5fx
      @TH-qb5fx 11 месяцев назад +10

      Or they get created from white flight like Virginia Beach was

    • @oladeebiazazi4538
      @oladeebiazazi4538 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@TH-qb5fx Really Virginia Beach was created from white flight

    • @perfectallycromulent
      @perfectallycromulent 11 месяцев назад +1

      not really. I'm from Long Island, and yeah, it was settled in the 1600s with a lot of town centers being pretty old. but the vast majority of the 8,000,000 live on land that was transformed directly from agricultural use or woodlands, not the small areas that were the old towns. you are maybe confusing the land borders of these old towns with their land use patterns. they were mostly rural before they were turned into suburbs, not small towns.

  • @Chris8-0
    @Chris8-0 11 месяцев назад +36

    The biggest reason Lexington does not have suburbs is the horse farms. No one really wants to see that part of Lexington disappear.

    • @floycewhite6991
      @floycewhite6991 11 месяцев назад +3

      Same as Midland - Odessa surrounded by oil wells.

    • @kodyr9291
      @kodyr9291 11 месяцев назад +8

      Lexington was also the first city in the US to establish an urban service boundary to protect the natural landscape. It has controlled growth and kept suburbs from developing to a major extent.

    • @micosstar
      @micosstar 11 месяцев назад

      @@kodyr9291 facts

    • @JESL_Only_1
      @JESL_Only_1 Месяц назад

      Having lived there, yes, it's remarkable how quickly the landscape becomes rural in Fayette County beyond the city proper.

  • @allocated_capital
    @allocated_capital 11 месяцев назад +95

    I am from Lincoln and will say your backstory is a little wrong. There were many small towns very close to Lincoln which were founded specifically as suburbs. These included College View (home to Union College), Bethany Heights, University Place (home to NE Wesleyan), and Havelock. If you look at a map, these are all neighborhoods now fully enclosed by Lincoln. Lincoln is it’s size because it has historically been aggressive in its annexation of nearby territory.

    • @Jens_the_Viking
      @Jens_the_Viking 11 месяцев назад +2

      Omaha is similar as well with all the annexation. I'm surprised he didn't mention Omaha.

    • @Earth1218
      @Earth1218 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@Jens_the_Vikingyeah, Omaha has like maybe five suburbs and they’re generally small.

    • @prplt
      @prplt 11 месяцев назад +1

      its size not it's (=it is)

    • @lws7394
      @lws7394 11 месяцев назад +4

      I don't get the point of this video. So Lincoln started so small, that it doesn't gave a high rise downtown. ( as one of few us cities). It has a very small centre , 2 uni campusus...and a lot of single homes sprawl. It just stayed within city borders ..

    • @pranawdhital
      @pranawdhital 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Earth1218council bluffs

  • @stevengordon3271
    @stevengordon3271 11 месяцев назад +16

    These are just American cities with so much land area that the suburbs are still inside the city limits.

    • @JESL_Only_1
      @JESL_Only_1 Месяц назад

      The OP pointed out areas, iirc, and having been in quite a few of these, they are not extensive in area, generally.

  • @jeremiahallyn4603
    @jeremiahallyn4603 11 месяцев назад +56

    I'm from the Lexington area and can say Nicholasville and Lexington have grown into one another. Georgetown and Versailles are also close to growing into Lexington. Winchester, Paris and especially Richmond are still separated by larger rural areas. Nice video 👏

  • @jerrywood4508
    @jerrywood4508 11 месяцев назад +22

    Texas cities used to benefit from state laws which gave them broad leeway to annex territory around them and prevent the incorporation of new towns within their periphery. Houston doubled its area in 1949 and 1956, and annexed aggressively until about 1996. But increasing problems with extending services into newly annexed areas and the explosive growth finally ended that era. State law has changed, so the city now makes agreements with special purpose districts surrounding it to share revenue instead of annexing these areas outright. There are incorporated suburbs, but the area that isn't incorporated but is suburban development has well over a million residents.

  • @stevemarvin
    @stevemarvin 11 месяцев назад +62

    Thanks for highlighting the city boundaries on the maps, Beaver. It really helps me visualize things to the next level (if that makes sense).

    • @evanrozsa
      @evanrozsa 11 месяцев назад +3

      I agree!

    • @micosstar
      @micosstar 11 месяцев назад +1

      absolutely!

  • @timj684
    @timj684 11 месяцев назад +26

    I do think this is a good video in general, but as others have pointed out, these really aren't cities without suburbs, but rather cities that have no or limited other suburban communities because the suburbs are contained within the city itself. Jacksonville is the clearest example of this. In addition many suburban communities in the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast are considerably denser than most of the cities om this list (Nassau County on Long Island is almost quadruple as dense as the city of Jacksonville

    • @JESL_Only_1
      @JESL_Only_1 Месяц назад

      No, I've lived in, or been in, quite a few of these places.
      Not mentioned is Wichita, KS, where I've lived. About 350K now, it has towns in Sedgwick County next to it, but they're just bedrooms. The smallest place in the county, Viola,is just 15 minutes away from downtown, and has 300 people.
      Again, much experience. These places are mostly smaller, a speck of urbanity with small towns nearby, not true suburbs.
      You have them mostly because the lower 48 are vast and not everywhere is part of a megalopolis.

  • @jamesorlando8178
    @jamesorlando8178 11 месяцев назад +8

    In Canada, Calgary has 1.31 million in city limits and a metro of 1.48 million

  • @brentonrettig6028
    @brentonrettig6028 11 месяцев назад +24

    While all of these cities may not have any separate suburban communities within their metropolitan areas, they all still have suburban development. They ALL have suburbs even though those suburbs may be part of that city's jurisdiction.
    With all due respect, this title is misleading.

    • @HighpointerGeocacher
      @HighpointerGeocacher 11 месяцев назад

      That is correct. For example, Ahwatukee is the southernmost neighborhood of Phoenix, its character is very suburban in nature (mostly residential except near I-10 at Ahwatukee's eastern side) and it is separated from the rest of Phoenix by a large mountainous desert park of open space, yet it has been annexed by the City of Phoenix, so it is technically within the Phoenix city limits. However, Tempe is considered a suburb of Phoenix, yet Tempe is the most densely populated and urbanized city in Maricopa County, particularly in and around Arizona State University and Tempe Town Lake.

    • @DavidCiani
      @DavidCiani 11 месяцев назад +1

      As someone who grew up in Southern California, I can absolutely confirm that city municipal boundaries have pretty much nothing to do with defining suburbs. Los Angeles and San Diego both have hundreds of square miles of suburban development within the city limits, as well as being surrounded by more suburbs, which may or may not be separately incorporated cities.

  • @AliciaTheTroonSlayer
    @AliciaTheTroonSlayer 11 месяцев назад +26

    San Antonio is also one for a big city. It annexed everything around it save for the newer northern suburbs but it’s still low population. I think you covered that in a video already actually.

    • @ElysianGomez
      @ElysianGomez 11 месяцев назад +2

      New Braunfels? Seguin? Boerne?

    • @josea5016
      @josea5016 11 месяцев назад

      Eventually even Castorville will become a suburb of SA… at the rate the far West side of SA is growing along US 90 and Potranco Rd corridors.

    • @SquidProQuo80
      @SquidProQuo80 11 месяцев назад +1

      San Antonio grew because of huge migration, not because of annexation... there were/are virtually no suburbs of any size to annex. And it's population isn't low as it's been the nation's fastest growing city on multiple occasions (the San Antonio CSA is 2.7 million).

    • @GabIsAPro99
      @GabIsAPro99 11 месяцев назад +3

      san antonio has many suburbs, just not many of substantial influence and population. New braunfels and seguin are not yet suburbs but are in orbit of SA.

    • @railroadforest30
      @railroadforest30 11 месяцев назад +4

      San Antonio is mostly suburban

  • @JasonTaylor-po5xc
    @JasonTaylor-po5xc 11 месяцев назад +7

    Depends on what you mean by suburb. If you mean nearby towns that serve as bedroom communities for an urban core/city then your video applies. If you mean a large amount of single family homes just out side an urban core - that's likely what's actually happening in your examples. I used to live in Jacksonville, FL and I can tell you outside the downtown area, everywhere else is a maze of single family homes. How you draw the lines doesn't matter.

    • @ralphjames1211
      @ralphjames1211 6 месяцев назад

      He may mean towns/sleeper communities that share the same common border with the core city in his definition of a suburb!

  • @jonconstant3914
    @jonconstant3914 11 месяцев назад +5

    Part of the reason Corpus Christi doesn’t have much to the south of it is the existence of King Ranch, which limits any growth of suburban sprawl anywhere between Corpus Christi and Brownsville.

    • @BackSeatJunkie
      @BackSeatJunkie 11 месяцев назад

      One could say that King Ranch is the ultimate suburb, it just isn't full of people and cars. I mean, it is a jurisdiction. It just limits commercial and industrial development to cattle ranching. LOL I think the argument could hold up in court.

    • @lazygongfarmer2044
      @lazygongfarmer2044 11 месяцев назад

      No. The reason King Ranch is where it is and is huge is because there is *no reason* for anyone to want to live in that part of South Texas. Corpus is some 40 miles north of the edge of King Ranch anyway, they do not impinge.

    • @jimoconnor6382
      @jimoconnor6382 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@lazygongfarmer2044Some huge hairy noses are getting curious about South Texas.....shhhhh.

  • @yes-hm4gk
    @yes-hm4gk 11 месяцев назад +6

    You should make a video about small towns (under 200,000) with big downtowns, examples might be reno nevada or Rochester Minnesota

  • @davidtosh7200
    @davidtosh7200 11 месяцев назад +3

    My guess is San Antonio Texas, and it might consolidate with Bexar County. Population of San Antonio Texas: 2 Million with a Metro area about 3 Million people. There are only a handful of suburbs in San Antonio Texas.

  • @Mav12able
    @Mav12able 11 месяцев назад +18

    Something to factor in should be when and how these cities and/or their potential suburbs grew. There was a period in US history where if a city’s outer area grew, it was just annexed into the city itself. With the rise of white flight and modern suburbs that changed and now suburbs grow as separate municipalities whereas in the past the city would’ve absorbed them.
    This is something that I think isn’t discussed often but does recontextualize a lot of the narrative about American cities.
    For example: St Louis if it actually included the rest of its county it would have 1.2 million and be the 10th largest city in the US, If Detroit included all of Wayne County it’d have a population of 1.8 million making it the 5th largest, if Los Angeles included all of its county it’d dethrone the 5 boroughs of NYC by 2 million to become the largest city in the US.

    • @UserName-ts3sp
      @UserName-ts3sp 11 месяцев назад +3

      yep. it’s the reason jacksonville is like the 11th biggest city in the country, along with other cities like indy, louisville, columbus, etc

  • @carolinaelevatorseas
    @carolinaelevatorseas 11 месяцев назад +10

    Wow Wilmington NC finally showed up! I am in Leland, and the area is definitely growing insanely quick Leland is a suburb for sure. Also the other areas like Murrayville, Wrightsboro, Myrtle Grove, Silver Lake, Bayshore, Ogden, Northchase, all those areas are actually part of Wilmington, so they are just hug neighborhoods/areas of Wilmington

    • @gddrew
      @gddrew 11 месяцев назад

      I was going to point out that Bayshore, Ogden, etc. are neighborhoods outside of the city limits, and while suburban, technically they are not suburbs IF you define a suburb as an incorporated community outside of larger urban core. By that definition, only Leland, Wrightsville Beach, Carolina Beach, Southport, etc. fit the bill. Wilmington would’ve probably annexed Ogden by now but the state assembly changed the annexation laws several years ago so it’s a lot harder to do now.

  • @sokonek1
    @sokonek1 11 месяцев назад +36

    Would love to see a video about the opposite, cities that are the smallest compared to their metro areas.

    • @ztl2505
      @ztl2505 11 месяцев назад +13

      I’m curious if Boston would be near the top, the actual city limits are tiny.

    • @user-hm1zb8js5i
      @user-hm1zb8js5i 11 месяцев назад +15

      St. Louis would be a good contender. Only about 10% of the metropolitan area lives within the city limits.

    • @andrewpfantz964
      @andrewpfantz964 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@user-hm1zb8js5iKansas City is the same way although to a lesser extent than STL

    • @johnwiesner9590
      @johnwiesner9590 11 месяцев назад +6

      Detroit is a good example, with its population falling to below 1 million in the 2000 census.

    • @jbm71
      @jbm71 11 месяцев назад +13

      Atlanta! City population not quite 500K, Metro area well over 5M. Suburbs everywhere!

  • @Asianmattdog
    @Asianmattdog 11 месяцев назад +11

    As someone who's taken the I-80/Cornhusker Highway exit in Waverly for Nebraska Football games, I can say that the gap between Lincoln and Waverly doesn't seem far(About 4 miles, or a 5 minute drive). I've always considered Waverly a suburb of Lincoln, despite its appearance on the map, and a lot of Nebraskans would likely feel the same. Also, Waverly is to the Northeast of Lincoln, not the Southeast!

  • @clayton97330
    @clayton97330 11 месяцев назад +4

    How about largest "non-cities." Highest population areas that have no downtown business districts with any buildings above a certain height.

    • @BBQPorkSandwich3
      @BBQPorkSandwich3 11 месяцев назад

      That sounds very subjective

    • @clayton97330
      @clayton97330 11 месяцев назад

      @@BBQPorkSandwich3 as are most of his videos, shouldn't be an issue

  • @Chris-ut6eq
    @Chris-ut6eq 11 месяцев назад

    Keep up the great work and look forward to the next video!

  • @TrafficCamWatch
    @TrafficCamWatch 8 месяцев назад +1

    Bonus fact: Chesapeake, VA is the second most populated city in Virginia but it has no downtown.

  • @lognananbwhggwfwhw
    @lognananbwhggwfwhw 11 месяцев назад +1

    im from Lexington and you have no idea how happy i am to see a geography actually talking abt Lexington for once, its so underrated and i wish it could be mentioned more, as soon as i saw the title i knew it would be on here

    • @brianarbenz1329
      @brianarbenz1329 11 месяцев назад

      Of all the cities which merged with their counties, Lexington is the inly one I know of which really did merge. Indianapolis still has three pretty good sized suburban cities separate from its merged Marion County wide "Unigov." And Louisville's "third try's a charm" merger in 2000 actually merged relatively little. The first merger ballot referendum was in 1982 and came within a whisker of passing. It would have done merger in the same way Lexington and Fayette County did. The 1983 one, which maintained the 60 suburban cities, also failed by a tiny margin.

  • @James-ob4lz
    @James-ob4lz 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! love the content. An idea for a future video is similar to this but the reverse. Cities with the most suburbs. I ask this because I remember reading somewhere once that the Chicagoland metro area has the most municipal governments than any other metro area. Not sure how accurate but would love to hear your take.

  • @bmjv77
    @bmjv77 11 месяцев назад +2

    I'm amazed that Indianapolis wasn't on here.

  • @BoratWanksta
    @BoratWanksta 2 месяца назад +1

    Good video. Will say I'm surprised you didn't mention Tucson, Arizona. It's city limits are HUGE. The only nearby communities are Oro Valley to the north, and Sahuarita and Green Valley to the south. Tucson still has more room to sprawl further, if it wanted to.
    You could also argue Spokane, Washington to be included, with how big its city limits are.

  • @johnl9236
    @johnl9236 11 месяцев назад

    Been with you since you were at 8k followers your channel is a sleeper for sure in that is amazing and informative, and yet has not exploded yet! it will happen man just keep it up!

  • @jeffkunce8501
    @jeffkunce8501 11 месяцев назад +2

    Baltimore City is an interesting case. It is surrounded by named communities that look like suburbs, but none of them are incorporated cities. They are all governed by the two surrounding counties (Anne Arundel County and Baltimore County.)

  • @mingzhong5481
    @mingzhong5481 11 месяцев назад +4

    I think you just played the meaning of the word. These "cities" definitely include large swamp of suburban areas albeit within the city limit.

  • @subpardiscgolf9473
    @subpardiscgolf9473 11 месяцев назад +5

    Jacksonville has a lot of suburbs, but the majority of them are inside the city limits. However, suburbs are slowly expanding down south through Orange Park and Middleburg. I remember growing up in that area how it used to be somewhat empty, but now there is a multitude of developments and growth down State Route 21. On the east side of the river, St. Johns County is expanding at a rapid pace, and there is not a large gap between Jax and St. Augustine because of it.

    • @BBQPorkSandwich3
      @BBQPorkSandwich3 11 месяцев назад +2

      Because they’re in the city limits they aren’t true suburbs
      I would argue the beaches arent either has our elected city officials govern them and can override theirs. Beaches communities are glorified neighborhoods

    • @dvferyance
      @dvferyance 11 месяцев назад +1

      Suburban sprawl is spreading into Nassau County, Clay County and St Johns County they are all considered part of the Jacksonville metro.

    • @subpardiscgolf9473
      @subpardiscgolf9473 11 месяцев назад

      @@BBQPorkSandwich3 I suppose I tend to think of suburbs as development around cities rather than surrounding incorporated cities. Jacksonville and the surrounding areas feel very suburban to me.

    • @lobos320
      @lobos320 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@dvferyanceall of those counties are not just considered part of the Jacksonville Metro area. They are all g with Baker County part of the Jacksonville metropolitan Statistical area

    • @lobos320
      @lobos320 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@BBQPorkSandwich3 the city of Jacksonville can not override the decisions of the governments.of the 3 Duval County beach cities and Baldwin. They are incorporated cities, separate form the city of Jacksonville. However the city council of Jacksonville has the same relationship that incorporated cities in other counties in Florida have with the Board of County Commissioners .
      Ponte Vedra Beach is in unincorporated St Johns County. So the city of Jacksonville has absolutely no say on anything there. There is a Ponte Vedra Munincipall Services District for things like trash pick up. But now many county governments in Florida provide municipal services like trash pick up. So there are not many MSDs around

  • @jpepe-qg4qj
    @jpepe-qg4qj 11 месяцев назад +1

    Nice vid beaver

  • @kiosk5595
    @kiosk5595 11 месяцев назад +2

    The Hampton Roads metro is an interesting one, because it’s the only region I know of that’s reverse, it’s a bunch of suburbs of no central city. Some might say it’s Norfolk, VA but nearby Virginia Beach is the largest city in the state

  • @idellhpcompaq
    @idellhpcompaq 11 месяцев назад +9

    Lexington reporting in! thanks for covering us!! Also ps. Nicholasville is now Lexington I don't care what anyone says! you can drive from Lexington to Nicholasville and not even realize you left Lexington! We are also spreading out towards Georgetown at a fast rate. 20 years ago it was pretty much farmland between Nicholasville and Lexington. Now its car lots.

    • @mccalejk2
      @mccalejk2 11 месяцев назад +2

      Maybe you can consider Brandon Crossing in Lexington but further south it’s clearly Nicholasville.

    • @bjgandalf69
      @bjgandalf69 11 месяцев назад

      Versailles is pronounced Ver-sales by the natives.

    • @BackSeatJunkie
      @BackSeatJunkie 11 месяцев назад +1

      Just because a person can't tell where one burg stops and the next one starts doesn't make them the same burg.

    • @9__fingers
      @9__fingers 11 месяцев назад

      @@mccalejk2Brannon Crossing is actually in the city limits of Nicholasville (from a Jessamine County resident)

  • @gj1234567899999
    @gj1234567899999 11 месяцев назад +2

    In Kentucky they don’t call Versailles “Ver sigh” they say “ver sails”

  • @user-nz9hv5go2v
    @user-nz9hv5go2v 11 месяцев назад

    Interesting video topic. And thanks for pronouncing Saltillo correctly.

  • @DeeRuss
    @DeeRuss 8 месяцев назад +1

    Joplin is an interesting city, it has suffered the most damage from a natural disaster being the Joplin tornado in 2011. You can go on street view and see how entire neighborhoods were destroyed

  • @Noah-yq6wy
    @Noah-yq6wy 6 месяцев назад +1

    Check out Gainesville FL, 140k+ population no suburbs around just unincorporated areas, metro pop of 332k. Love the vids!

  • @allanflippin2453
    @allanflippin2453 11 месяцев назад +3

    Mr. Beaver,
    Very interesting video, thanks! Another interesting approach would be to consider cities based on the percent of "suburbish" development around it, not considering city limits as such. Some of the cities you indicate have "no suburbs", don't have them because the suburb development is all inside the city limits.

    • @yaroslavkobezskyi
      @yaroslavkobezskyi 11 месяцев назад

      That's what I thought of at first, too. It would be really surprising to find a city without suburban development. There are some small cities like Eden, TX, for example, that are designed as cities and tend to stick to the original city plan without further developments. However, there are private homes, so it's not fully urban. Plus, the only reason there are no suburbs is economical. Once a major business or any sort of investment comes in the area, it will sprawl suburbs. You won't find anything slightly bigger than a ghost town without a suburb.

  • @No_name69814
    @No_name69814 11 месяцев назад +1

    Your my brother beaver you got the best content

  • @andrewb3122
    @andrewb3122 11 месяцев назад +4

    Man, I was really expecting to see Phoenix AZ on this list with it being so dense and compact. I mean I'm on a campus at the fringes of the metro and it's only about a 45 minute trip through single family housing to downtown. Oh wait...

    • @JonasMatthewBahta
      @JonasMatthewBahta 11 месяцев назад +1

      Phoenix is different from a lot of these cities because it has a handful of suburbs surrounding it (Chandler, Mesa, Glendale just to name a few) which is why it wasn’t included in this video. It probably doesn’t seem like it given that Phoenix city limits by area is bigger than a lot major cities making it seem like there is fewer suburbs in sight. You can drive over 10 miles north of downtown and still officially be in the city limits, in Salt Lake City you even try to go 2-3 miles south of downtown your outta town, but you would not be able to tell since it doesn’t have that suburban look….

  • @ricecakes44
    @ricecakes44 10 месяцев назад

    Glad you put Corpus Christi, Lubbock, and Amarillo in this list. Smart man!

  • @anthonyrivera4735
    @anthonyrivera4735 11 месяцев назад +2

    Buffalo, Indianapolis and Las Vegas don't have enough suburbs. What about cities with too many suburbs? Such as New Orleans, Salt Lake City, Los Angeles, San Francisco, St. Louis, Philadelphia, New York City, Baltimore, Washington DC, Raleigh, Tampa, Orlando, Miami.

    • @r.pres.4121
      @r.pres.4121 11 месяцев назад +1

      New Orleans doesn’t have all that many suburbs. It is a mid sized metropolitan area of 1.3 million.

    • @richardjacobson1735
      @richardjacobson1735 11 месяцев назад

      Chicago, Twin Cities, Denver.

  • @MikeV8652
    @MikeV8652 11 месяцев назад +2

    Much of the distinction results from differing laws in different states (or during different development eras within the same state) that make incorporation and annexation more or less difficult or that affect perceived municipal overreaches as to taxation, zoning, and codes that can cause people to flee the cities and to resist or to welcome annexation.

  • @ryanperry4459
    @ryanperry4459 11 месяцев назад +1

    Good job, young man.

  • @PlayaPotna1984
    @PlayaPotna1984 11 месяцев назад +3

    Austin could probably be the case going back to before the 2000s. Even with Austin growing by the leaps and bounds in decades past, Round Rock was a blip on the map long before becoming the biggest suburban city outside Austin. San Marcos was the only other city in the Austin region with more than 15k people, yet the 25 mile area between the two was sparsely developed until the 2010s or so.

  • @lextroupe
    @lextroupe 11 месяцев назад

    Would love to see you talk about Huntsville and northern Alabama in a video!! :)

  • @kevinkearns7719
    @kevinkearns7719 11 месяцев назад +1

    Living in corpus christi, I like to say that the towns on the other side of the bay are the suburbs, buts it's really stretching the definition.

  • @Crooked60
    @Crooked60 11 месяцев назад +2

    I think another contender for this video would be Charleston WV. It's not a big city but it's still a decent size

  • @RossSpeirs
    @RossSpeirs 11 месяцев назад

    We’re in for another dam good video

  • @VaRockerDude
    @VaRockerDude 11 месяцев назад +2

    Can you do a video on Hampton Roads, VA ? We are unique because instead of one large city we have 7. And 2 of the suburban cities are larger than the core city of Norfolk

    • @dvferyance
      @dvferyance 11 месяцев назад

      I know Va Beach is larger what is the other one?

    • @VaRockerDude
      @VaRockerDude 11 месяцев назад

      @@dvferyance Chesapeake just surpassed Norfolk

  • @CNBMATH
    @CNBMATH 11 месяцев назад +2

    Suburbs are not bad. I don't know why everyone hates suburbs. Where else would people live? Apartments? Where you can't do what you want to the apartment. Or in the country? Where you are far away from stores?

  • @bonelegs5519
    @bonelegs5519 11 месяцев назад +1

    An interesting video could examine cities whose suburbs are surpassing or getting close to surpassing them in population or prestige

  • @KembaWalkerGOAT
    @KembaWalkerGOAT 11 месяцев назад +1

    Unfortunately greater Wilmington is run by elderly retirees, but the urban core is absolutely lovely, as is the geographical setting of the metro area. Just gorgeous, hard not to love.
    You should do a video on weird Metro Areas. Wilmington could also fit there. Brunswick County NC, home to the most populated Wilmington suburb (Leland), is technically part of the Myrtle Beach metro, despite the fact that the vast majority of the country population is closer to Wilmington, the much larger city. Very weird anomaly!!

  • @GalenlevyPhoto
    @GalenlevyPhoto 11 месяцев назад +1

    Don’t forget El Paso, TX. They barely have suburbs and it’s a city of over 600k and it only has a metro of 900k. Similar primary cities with the size can have metro of 2-4 million people.

    • @ralphjames1211
      @ralphjames1211 6 месяцев назад

      Actually El Paso shares borders with Socorro (pop over 24,000 people), Anthony, and Vinton as well as Santa Teresa, New Mexico!

  • @nsilverlane
    @nsilverlane 11 месяцев назад +2

    You could have added Anchorage AK to your list. Because of the municipal area, there are no suburbs.

  • @tmghui888
    @tmghui888 11 месяцев назад +1

    Cities like SF and Boston are the total opposite. Both aren’t even top 15 in city population but both have two of the largest metro regions in the country.

  • @L0VTX_H8CA
    @L0VTX_H8CA 11 месяцев назад

    I live in Lubbock.
    Wolfforth directly connects to Lubbock along US62/82 and 82nd street, the development doesn’t have any space along those routes. And along 66th street, that area is filling in by the day, I give it less than 3 years and they’ll be connected there. It’s definitely a suburb.
    Shallowater don’t look like it connects at all, but the stop light at Shallowater on US84 is just a smidge over a mile from the exit to Lubbock’s Frankford Avenue. That’ll be connected in the next 5 years.
    Then there’s Slaton, which has a lot longer to go before it connects, but most people around here consider it a suburb anyway because it’s only a 10 minute drive from Loop 289.
    New Deal, TX also gets considered a suburb because it’s still in Lubbock County and it’s only 7 miles north from Loop 289 along I-27.
    And because of Slide Road, we also consider New Home and Slide both to be part of Lubbock, but I’m not sure those two places are incorporated, I think they might not be.

  • @MrChilili
    @MrChilili 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love the video as always but I cringed when he said Saltillo (in the beginning for Lincoln) as Saw-tee-o, but it’s pronounced just how it sounds, Sol-till-o

  • @JL-sm6cg
    @JL-sm6cg 11 месяцев назад +1

    I would've figured youd include Tucson and Las Vegas in there somewhere.

  • @bpark222
    @bpark222 11 месяцев назад

    Question, similar to lexington, san francisco is a city-county, so would thus qualify under your premise just wondering if this wad an omission or wad left off for a specific reason.

  • @KFB4LIFE8
    @KFB4LIFE8 11 месяцев назад +20

    The geography god has posted again

  • @mcsomeone2681
    @mcsomeone2681 11 месяцев назад

    Bishop hills outside of Amarillo is actually incorporated, it's one of just two cities in potter county that are incorporated. There is some new suburban development on the new loop 335 but even those are pretty well connected and gridded out compared to other suburbs.

  • @jamhamaudits6791
    @jamhamaudits6791 11 месяцев назад +3

    Topeka ks could have also been another capitol city on this list

  • @rpk675
    @rpk675 11 месяцев назад +14

    Next, cities with the most suburbs! Or cities that have the largest proportion of the population living in suburbs rather than the city limits… That would be interesting.

    • @Goodtimenotalongtime
      @Goodtimenotalongtime 11 месяцев назад +4

      Dallas Fort Worth and Los Angeles would be well above everyone else

    • @Eric__J
      @Eric__J 11 месяцев назад +4

      Charlotte, Phoenix, and Las Vegas are basically all suburb, too. Very minimal urban regions relative to the sizes of the metros.

    • @OffensiveMiddleFinger
      @OffensiveMiddleFinger 11 месяцев назад +2

      Orlando would definitely make this list

    • @brianarbenz1329
      @brianarbenz1329 11 месяцев назад +2

      Salt Lake City, by figures from 2010, had about 200,000 in its city limits and about a million including its bulging suburban cities.

    • @rpk675
      @rpk675 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@brianarbenz1329 I would have thought Miami, with 450,000 in city limits and nearly 6 million in the metro

  • @nickberry5520
    @nickberry5520 11 месяцев назад +2

    I guess the next video should be large metros with small central cities.

    • @floycewhite6991
      @floycewhite6991 11 месяцев назад

      Ooh! Ooh! San Francisco. No, Los Angeles. No, Destroyit.

    • @nickberry5520
      @nickberry5520 11 месяцев назад

      @@floycewhite6991 ?

    • @Earth1218
      @Earth1218 11 месяцев назад +1

      Like Boston, St. Louis, Atlanta, and Miami.

  • @FozzyBBear
    @FozzyBBear 11 месяцев назад +1

    TL;DR Here are some small cities whose boundaries are technically large enough to include what should be counted as their suburbs. Most cities in the US are just tiny administrative regions, like the 400,000 who call Atlanta their home, versus the other 6 million residents of the same metro area who claim they live in rural North Georgia and pretend they have never heard of Atlanta.

  • @SquidProQuo80
    @SquidProQuo80 11 месяцев назад +1

    *The biggest city in America for this topic is San Antonio, Texas with only one suburb of any size (New Braunfels - 110,000) and the rest are all small bedroom communities of just a few thousand residents.*

  • @kmena05
    @kmena05 11 месяцев назад

    In Jacksonville that city known as Baldwin is a Suburb surrounded by Jacksonville, in Houston there are suburbs like that surrounded by Houston.

  • @SLUSHIE1ST
    @SLUSHIE1ST 2 месяца назад +1

    Wichita Kansas is another one you could have put basically 0 subrubs at all with a city well over 300k people. Same with topeka kansas basically 0 suburbs.

    • @BoratWanksta
      @BoratWanksta 2 месяца назад

      There are only a handful of nearby incorporated communities outside Wichita, such as Derby and Haysville and Park City. But none of those are very big, vs. Wichita.
      You're also right about Topeka not having a lot of incorporated communites, near it.

  • @fizwis1303
    @fizwis1303 11 месяцев назад +2

    Colorado Springs?

  • @RyanS32
    @RyanS32 11 месяцев назад +6

    Love your channel, man. Keep up the good work! Hey, Lubbock made the list! Best sunset you'll ever see in your life! Absolutely beautiful! (Just be careful of the dust storms and tumbleweeds!)

    • @JonasMatthewBahta
      @JonasMatthewBahta 11 месяцев назад +1

      Former Texas Tech student and you’re right on point with that. I do miss the area, but yeah the wind is definitely fierce there, I was there to witness the 2011 haboob and it look like a scene from a movie.

    • @BeaverGeography
      @BeaverGeography  11 месяцев назад +5

      Ain't no way the best sunset in the world is in Lubbock

    • @RyanS32
      @RyanS32 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@BeaverGeography You'd be surprised. You can see FOREVER

    • @RyanS32
      @RyanS32 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@JonasMatthewBahta Wreck 'em!

    • @metalmariopro5850
      @metalmariopro5850 11 месяцев назад +1

      During my time at Texas tech, I had like 100 photos on my phone just for the sunsets, I even made an album for it.

  • @kymourdarkmyth799
    @kymourdarkmyth799 11 месяцев назад +7

    I live in Lubbock and it feels like a massive suburb except for the run-down downtown. If they were to convert all those abandoned or seemingly abandoned buildings downtown into apartments or lofts, it would help with the rising rent and housing costs. Texas Tech University, Lubbock Christian University, and south plains college have so many students that when school is in session the prices go up instantly. We are talking about 50+ thousand students that can come and go whenever school is out.

    • @railroadforest30
      @railroadforest30 11 месяцев назад +1

      They could do that in a lot of Midwestern cities as well

    • @meberg500
      @meberg500 11 месяцев назад +4

      I used to live there and agree - there's tons of suburban sprawl, it just happens to all be in the same city limits. Most other cities in the video are the same. I was expecting a video about cities without the sprawl.

    • @L0VTX_H8CA
      @L0VTX_H8CA 11 месяцев назад +1

      The rent in Lubbock is so high now thanks to the universities, I went and moved out to Levelland. Yeah, they have SPC, but the rent out there is about 2/3 of what you pay in Lubbock, but then there’s the downside of being 25 miles from Lubbock (unless you’re like me, then that’s a plus). But I imagine in my lifetime Lubbock and Levelland are going to merge along 114 and eat Smyer out of the equation. It’ll likely be Lubbock to grow out that far because they keep growing to the west. Of course, this all depends on the area not running out of water before then…

  • @josephpadula2283
    @josephpadula2283 11 месяцев назад +1

    The current NYC is not a conglomeration of nearby suburbs and cities near to Manhattan but it is 5 counties that merged together to make a city!

  • @SofaSpy
    @SofaSpy 11 месяцев назад +2

    A lot if not all of these cities are nothing but suburban cities, with nothing but single family housing and a small downtown. I think American definition of city and suburb is different from what is internationally. Standard definition of cities and suburbs. In my opinion, suburbs is more physical while the American definition is more administrative

    • @brianarbenz1329
      @brianarbenz1329 11 месяцев назад

      Louisville has a very urban character and look to its core. So does Cincinnati. That's because they are on the Ohio River, which during a brief but important period was a highway for immigrants rapidly moving in. This contrasts with nearby cities not on major waterways, such as Lexington and Dayton, which don't have any urban verve.

  • @mikegaravani7309
    @mikegaravani7309 11 месяцев назад +2

    I was confused ngl. These cities do have a lot of suburbs, just incorporated to the cities. Would be cool to make a video on the largest cities with no suburban style developement (like laguna beach ca)

  • @revinhatol
    @revinhatol 11 месяцев назад

    I beg to differ, but Victoria could be the closest big metropolitan area to Corpus Christi.

  • @wannabein619
    @wannabein619 11 месяцев назад

    When you mentioned Amarillo, you forgot Canyon just to its south, which depending on your view of things, is either a suburb or twin city to Amarillo.

  • @UltimaOmega
    @UltimaOmega 11 месяцев назад +6

    Sioux Falls, SD is a city of around 208,000 that has no connected suburbs. However there are a few nearby towns that are getting close and their development is heavily influenced by Sioux Falls. There are also a few unincorporated developments that are getting close with Splitrock Heights slowly getting surrounded by city.

    • @dvferyance
      @dvferyance 11 месяцев назад +1

      Brandon and Tea are getting close.

  • @michaelcerean1990
    @michaelcerean1990 11 месяцев назад +1

    “dull and lifeless” = a clean, safe place to live where kids can still play outside

  • @kcfreels
    @kcfreels 11 месяцев назад +1

    What about Las Vegas? Once you leave the valley, there's not a thing for miles. Boulder City is the closest thing to a suburb we have.

    • @ronnix23
      @ronnix23 11 месяцев назад

      Henderson and North Las Vegas would like a word with you.

    • @richardjacobson1735
      @richardjacobson1735 11 месяцев назад

      Henderson, North Las Vegas, Paradise, Sunrise Manor don't count.

    • @rowdyjman94
      @rowdyjman94 11 месяцев назад

      ​​​@@richardjacobson1735 the former 2 count as incorporated cities bc they're more than half the size of the las vegas city limits in population together & the latter 2 are unincorporated cities

  • @tom-four
    @tom-four 11 месяцев назад

    Yoooooo um watching this IN Lexington! Shout out from northside whoahhh

  • @SMartinTX
    @SMartinTX 11 месяцев назад +1

    You didn't include Colorado Springs, Colorado. Colorado Springs is a major city with scarcely any suburban growth outside its city limits. The population of Colorado Springs is 431, 834 and the only incorporated community that borders it is Manitou Springs, which has a population of 5, 172 and is five miles to the west of downtown Colorado Springs. The largest suburban community of Colorado Springs is Security-Widenfield to the south with a population of 38, 609 but it is unincorporated. There are several unincorporated communities to the north of Colorado Springs but they are small with populations of less than 10,000.

  • @nothat0therguy992
    @nothat0therguy992 11 месяцев назад

    Here in Michigan the city of Midland (population of 42k) doesn't have large scale suburban development outside of city limits, which is actually quite rare here. In Michigan there are some towns with less than 20k that have large scale suburban development for a town of it's size.

  • @bobsnow6242
    @bobsnow6242 11 месяцев назад +1

    Just as an aside Versailles, KY is pronounced "Ver-sales" by the locals.

  • @kevinrussell3501
    @kevinrussell3501 11 месяцев назад

    I would certainly consider Webb City a suburb of Joplin. It connects to the north end of Joplin and it's near continuous development now. it's not somewhat disconnected like Carthage, Neosho or where I live in SE Kansas

  • @louisjohnson3755
    @louisjohnson3755 11 месяцев назад +1

    Who else thought this was going to be a video about cities that don’t have car dependent suburbs
    (Edit: I was expecting New York and Boston on this list

  • @lukasrentz3238
    @lukasrentz3238 11 месяцев назад +2

    For me, a Suburb is an Area of lower Density (but not rural) around a dense urban Center. For me, a Suburb can be inside the City Limits. For me, all of Southwest-Lincoln would be considered suburban Lincoln.
    If you define a Suburb as a independent City, directly Bordering the City Limits of the "Center City", where its only purpose is to have low density residential Areas, which grew to be a part of the Built up Area, then the main Problem is possibly the weird Borders of US Cities. With a "Kommunalreform" (happened in Germany in the 70s), many former Independent Cities were joint to form a single larger one. Do that in the US and you will have giant Cities.

  • @OttomaticM
    @OttomaticM 11 месяцев назад +2

    Sioux Falls SD is a good example

  • @Luchabul
    @Luchabul 11 месяцев назад

    My hometown has 2-3 defined villages as suburbs, as well as suburban neighborhoods not defined beyond the township. The overall metropolitan area just barely crosses 100k, and feels like it's defined as a metropolitan area less for how big it is, and more from how distant it is from any area of greater size, to the point it constitutes its own tv market, one of the smallest in the state.

    • @L0VTX_H8CA
      @L0VTX_H8CA 11 месяцев назад

      This sounds like the Midwest lol

  • @pjesf
    @pjesf 11 месяцев назад

    Interesting 👍🏻

  • @Itwillgrowback
    @Itwillgrowback 11 месяцев назад

    Fresno has around 600,000 people and is surrounded by agriculture land. Clovis is attached to Fresno, but the San Joaquin Valley uniquely has relatively large cities and small towns surrounded by hundreds of acres of orchards, vineyards, and fields that isolate cities.

  • @TimEric4d3d3d3
    @TimEric4d3d3d3 11 месяцев назад

    You should do a video of big cities with the most suburbs

  • @CNSPORTZEDITZ
    @CNSPORTZEDITZ 11 месяцев назад +1

    Jacksonville is probably the most suburban city in the United States.

  • @nicholas6626
    @nicholas6626 11 месяцев назад

    Surprised me. I was just thinking how weird it is that Joplin has suburbs when larger cities don't, and then it popped up.

  • @robertstout260
    @robertstout260 11 месяцев назад

    True Corpus Christi does not have suburbs near the main part of the city but the actual city limit connects to Port Aransas and Portland and people from other cities do work in Corpus or vise versa like Aransas Pass,Ingelside ,Rockport,Fulton,and Robstown.

  • @krakken-
    @krakken- 8 месяцев назад

    Having grown up in Lincoln, basically the whole city is a suburb. It's just missing an urban center.

  • @petepyeatt6909
    @petepyeatt6909 11 месяцев назад +1

    Three seconds in, but my guess is San Antonio has to be the winner.

  • @JamesK1963
    @JamesK1963 11 месяцев назад

    St John's County, south of Jacksonville, is growing rapidly, so that will change things quite a bit.