. . . Oh my ARCEUS. That was beautiful. AND THAT MUSIC! IT'S A REMIX OF THE TITLE SCREEN THEME FOR BLACK AND WHITE! DEAR GOD IT REALLY IS POSSIBLE! AND THIS IS WAY BETTER THEN JUST BEING A SECRET FINAL ROUND OPPONENT IN THE PWT! It's just you, yourself from the original games, and both of your team's of Pokémon who accomplished everything alongside you every step of the way. Okay, I'm gonna say it. THIS is officially my new ALL TIME FAVORITE BATTLE THEM IN ALL OF POKÉMON! And that takes my previous holder of that title which was the Sinnoh Battle Frontier Brain Battle Theme. So I'm typing this in real time watching this and OH MY GOOOOOD!!! THE BATTLE THEME IS DIFFERENT FOR A TAG BATTLE AND HAS A REMIX FROM THE BLACK 2 AND WHITE 2 TITLE SCREEN THEME! BECAUSE YOU'RE THE 2 PLAYERS FROM SEQUALS BATTLING THE 2 PROTAGONISTS AS YOUR 2 OPPONENTS FROM THE ORIGINAL UNOVA GAMES! AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! THIS IS SOOOO UNBELIEVABLY FREAKIN FLIPPIN BADASS! I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS AND THIS LITTERALLY PERFECT IN EVERY SINGLE WAY. DEAR LORD ARCEUS, I AM SO GLAD NOW MORESO THEN EVEN EVER BEFORE TO HAVE STARTED MY FIRST POKÉMON JOURNEYS IN GEN 5 WITH THE UNOVA GAMES! I really will still always be that kid from Nuvema Town. I'M SO PROUD TO BE A GEN 5ER FOR LIFE! Thank you so much for teaching me about this and helping me somehow still discover brand new things about the Pokémon video games that I started with and am still learning about new things from for both the games that started it all for me and myself. For so many people and so many reasons these games were the end of an era. But for and countless others, it was just the beginning. And the passing of the torch of Pokémon from all those who came before us to us, at the time the newest and largest next Generation entering the world of Pokémon and the Pokémon Franchise. Now over a decade later, I am twice the age I was back then. I was 11 back in 2011 when this all started for me. I an now 22 in 2022. I have since traveled through many regions on many Journeys in Pokémon X, Alpha Sapphire, Sun, Ultra Sun, Let's go Eevee, Sword, Brilliant Diamond, and Legends Arceus. For a combined total of 10 Journeys through Kalos, Hoenn, Alola which made up 4 journeys through main and post games, Kanto which is still ongoing, Galar which I still have the Isle of Armor and Crown Tundra to look forward to, Sinnoh which is ongoing, and even the ancient Sinnoh Region known as the Hisui Region which is ongoing as well. And with multiple Journeys through the Paldea Region just on the horizon for both Scarlet and Violet, I look forward to someday returning to the place where it all started and passing on the torch to the next generation of Pokémon fans back in my home Region of Unova. Yes it's true that I have now learned that in the world of Pokémon, all roads lead to Sinnoh. But for me particular, there is always one extra path that opens up to my home. A secret grotto pathway linking all my memories together to a beautiful vast Region unlike any that came before it. A land where the seasons change, where all new Pokémon are all new Pokémon, where you have to start all over again from zero. A Region filled and overflowing with hopes and dreams that we all hold so truly and ideally to our hearts. A Region full of wonders, mysteries, challenges that will make both the hearts soar and heartache. An ever shifting formula of concepts that mix together to form a beautiful mess of all different shades of grey. This is the power of Black and White, for it is both everything and anything but that. And I think that's the real Natural Harmony of it. ✨🔲🌠🔳✨ Edit: So I found the other video you made. Dangit, this shouldve been in the game, you'd be the perfect composer for Pokémon and GameFreak. They'd better be watching this right now.
I’m gonna honest-seeing the fusion bolt/flare animation being different when BOTH moves are used in success in the same turn WAS SUMN I NEVER KNEW I NEEDED TO SEE. And this game came out over a decade ago…my love hasn’t faded and glad it didn’t
Over a decade and I never even knew that was a thing. Is this exclusive to BW2? I don’t remember this being a thing when fighting N in his castle in the first game.
@@TheWazzoGamesit’s weird to say but it’s bc fire and electric both are weak against dragon. So in the fight w N, you TECHNICALLY have no reason to use it bc the battle is on the line. But this wasn’t N
Man, B/W came out when I was 18, crazy realizing there's a whole generation where this is their version of fighting Red on top of Mt. Silver in G/S/C Pokemon truly is timeless.
Really miss how every sprite animation makes them look so alive yet never going too far and making the design of the characters/pokemon look awful. Would love if they took the time to make another pokemon game with sprites.
@@---oq5kb Well some of them have been shown in the game universe with their starters: Nate with Emboar, Rosa with Serperior, May with Blaziken and Swampert, Brendan with Sceptile, etc... The others most probably come from Masters EX which is still a (messy) representation of the game universe: Red (protagonist) and Charizard, Leaf and Venusaur, Ethan (protagonist?) and Typhlosion, Lyra (protagonist?) and Meganium, Kris and Feraligatr, Dawn (protagonist) and Torterra, Lucas and Infernape, Calem still unclear, Serena (protagonist) and Delphox, Elio (protagonist?) and Primarina, Selene (protagonist?) and Decidueye, Gloria (protagonist) and Inteleon and Victor and Rillaboom
@@gabrielevalentini4438 I have played masters ex, and the story for some characters mention stuff about how these aren't their original mons but were actually eggs, I would assume the same is true for characters (silver not having any of the starters should be a proof of that.) Also do you mean animated trailers when you say "shown in universe"? Because I think they just randomly pick starters for trailers just to show them, basically like artworks that show the starters with other characters.
Guys, you should be aware that Mixeli is trolling everyone. The music for the battle is actually an original composition and this might took a lot of effort to make it very convincing.
Kind of upsetting that so many people fell for this like those old 2010s TyranitarTube fan vids. Took way too long to find this comment of someone not playing along.
Knew that fusion flare and fusion bolt boost each other when used on the same turn, but didn't knew that their animation also became different.... Very interesting
Game Freak has introduced to us the Memory Link: Memory Link allows players to sync either of the original Black and White games with Black 2 and White 2 via Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection or DS Wireless Communications. With this explanation, Hilbert and Hilda is actually your own character in Black and White. You are the protagonist! Hilbert and Hilda are actually available in B2W2 they are actually in the game! The only way to meet them is via the Pokemon Center in Pokemon Wireless Club Union Room. You can actually talk to them, draw with them and even challenging them on a Pokemon Battle! This is the main reason! We cannot have two Hilbert/Hilda at the same time since you are the protagonist! Just like Red in Pokemon Emerald! He is available too! Adding something: Everything is written in the video. The answer is The memory link. During your adventure of B2/W2, N and plenty other important character Mention the protagonist from B/W as "Somebody" instead of the protagonist name of Black White. But if you put the memory link of your actual save file of Black and White, they all instead of saying somebody will say your own name that you gave to the main character in BW which mean your save file made the previous protagonist canon for giving the save file, thus, having a real name. By that logic, If you use the actual game (Pokemon Black and White) in which you use the exact same game for the memory link and do a battle with Black 2 and White 2 protagonist, this mean that the protagonist you challenge is the exact same as the one that N and plenty other have mentioned. He or She can be challenged directly on the Pokemon Center in Pokemon Wireless Club Union Room. It all depend if you use the real save or not. If you use the exact same save as the memory link it became canon, if not then it isn't the same protagonist that they have mentionned only if you pick a different save file. On my case, I used the real save.
They're not though Union room connections are links between parallel/alt universes as explained in ORAS, each pokemon save is a different parallel universe and in the case of B2W2 to BW links, time travel as well (like gen 1 to gen 2 links) Even if you say that you meet their past selves in the union room that's not the real BW protag, just an identical parallel version, as they were is BW The real Hilbert/Hilda in your B2W2 is in a different region still looking for N
20:50 This is the most badass Gen 5 battle I’ve ever scene hands down. Black and white Kyurem going toe to toe versus Zekrom and Reshiram in an all out fight to the death.
I loved the Memory Link. It was so cool, seeing the characters actually reference the BW1 protagonist by name. So many cool events to see, and then battling my old team from BW1 with my new one in BW2? So amazing!! Granted I was playing both DS's...haha.
To be fair we don't know if Emmet was sent to the past, although it would be cool to maybe see an ancient Johto/Kanto region and find one of them at the top of Mount Silver, give them an actual canon team and have it be the "Cynthia" battle of said legends game
I wish the legends would be more like linear where its the same character that gets thrown to different periods of different region like Quantum Leap meets Everything, Everywhere, All at Once.
@@MegaMew204 "canon" is redundant, when we got Red using a completely different team back in the Let's Go games, at best they could try taking "liberties" from the Hilbert/Hilda's manga counterparts.
Mixeli, I said once and I’m going to say it again. Thank you so much for making Pokémon White 2 videos to this day! Not everyone does it, and I really appreciate for you doing so! 💙
I actually used this feature back when I got White 2! I didn't have friends to play with back then and I would setup teams to fight against and then battle them with a random selection from my box. All this time I was convinced I fought Hilda in the Pokemon World Tournament but this actually rejogged my memory!
I played both white a ND white 2 for a total of maybe 3k hours, checked every corner of the map, did all the dream radar and game link stuff and I was never able to find the original trainers to battle, seeing this year's later is like a fever dream
But what if you change the team later with the same save file is why they didn't He even says thats the reason for why it could never be your actual team Plus, if you wanted to be cheeky, you'd just give yourself a completely crappy team and make the entire battle a breeze on purpose
@@adamtheriault6743 Yeah what i mean, the team you was carrying at the moment you have linked your save file, if you want to update it, you had to update you link connection, in a similar way gen 4 worked with PBR
Honestly, Pokemon could've ended at Gen 5 and I would've been happy. There's just something magical about Gen 5. It feels like the Pokemon we all know and love, yet new. It forces you to use new Pokemon and look at the same world through new eyes. While we all love our Garchomps and Pikachus and Blastoises, there's something to be said about the bold decision to make us use the Gen 5 Pokemon exclusively. A decision that could've easily backfired but didn't and as a result gave us Pokemon we adore equally. Gen 5 is why I generally try to use the new Pokemon of each generation in my first playthrough of the game.
I wish I would've known about this when I was younger. I would've LOVED to battle my BW team, granted of how strong it was. I only had 1 DS, so I dont think I really could've done this if I knew about it back then. This is genuinely amazing
It has been 10 years. Yet i still get a chance to travel into the times of 2012 and Play Black 2 in where i will fight Hilbert. Good Old memorys and childhood. long has it been but i will come a last time back for you.
I wasn't expecting that- Wait i remember i played Pokemon Black and then Black 2 but i didn't expecting this still exist. I'm glad you made a video of it and show some interesting information
I remember my cousins playing BW2 with each other 10 years ago when we got together for events. I really, REALLY wish I was convinced by them to get this game, but I had no idea which game it was at the time. Now all the games are super expensive. Oof.
@@realpotassiumit's absolutely nowhere near the same as holding the console. It's a very sad attempt to give a sliver of the experience. I've tried so many but nothing beats being able to play at the kitchen table at 3am, rolling over in bed with it in your hands, moving to the living room, and running back to the charger. The touch screen features working as intended and the little speakers on either side. It's just soulless on emulators
@@paradis0744 Fair enough. You can always look for a video game shop at a flea market. Only problem is they tend to be on the pricy side for the DS cartridges. I managed to get a cartridge with an SD in it once with over 200 games just for $50CAD once, and it works pretty well. Just watch out for price gauging.
Thank you for this video, I realized the teams that were used were apart of the characters main Pokémon in the Pokémon videos… as a gen 5 fanatic this is a great video, after gen 7 came out I stopped keeping up with it
It peeves me that Swordbert had a sword on his head Shieldbert had a shield on his head. But Hilbert doesn't have a hill on his head. It really shouldn't bug me, but it does.
"If somewhere in this world their is someone who understands you, it feels like that person is right beside you, even if you're as far apart as the end of the land and the top of the sky"
It would have been epic if activating the Memory Link unlocked a match against Hilbert/Hilda's Hall of Fame team in the Pokemon World Tournament, that being the "canon battle" between Hilbert/Hilda and Nate/Rosa.
My inner kid is screaming, I really hope gamefreak make a game where all the past MCs and rivals are interactable to somehow match the vibes that the Pokedex Holders of the Adventures Manga give off..
I remember trying to do memory link when I was playing the bw2 rom unfortunately I couldn't do it. Also some of Nate pokemon is from the animated special all those years ago
So, what you mean is that they are in the game because their sprite is in the game because in this example you are fighting against yourself, right? Like... that Hilbert in the Union Room is you with a different Nintendo system, right? Am I understanding this right?
No, as far as I saw the memory link, should you have completed enough things in your B/W save, it’ll copy your team in the memory link and if you go to the union room and the center of the room, your B/W character’s save data will be used to create an npc you can interact with that’ll be the trainer sprite of Hilda or Hilbert, at least that’s what it seems to be
Yup, you're right. I remember when I casually played with my cousin or my friends in some battles between B2W2 and BW. So this video is actually pretty builded up :/, since B-Kyurem shouldn't be usable in battles against a BW user.
@@AleHappyGamer You can fight use Black/White Kyurem against a Black/White save file, but they see base form Kyurem, instead. This is also the only legitimate way to see the Black/White Freeze Shock and Ice Burn animations(which, like many animations, are slightly different).
@@zephra1675 No, these are just wireless battles between copies of BW and BW2. The only battles unlocked by memory link are against Cheren and Bianca with the starters they had in the linked game.
On GBA emulator was possible though the switch of the "load save" for example red fire and emerald. Dunno if this works on ds emulators, surely not with the android one
According to Pokemon Generations, Hilbert has Zekrom whereas Hilda would have Emboar and Reshiram according to Pokemon Evolutions since she was in possession of the Light Stone
thats just a spin off dont take it too literally. most people accept black/hilbert having reshiram as the canon choice because N is most represented with zekrom in almost all mediums
But first we need to talk about the multiverses. Chapter 1: What is are multiverses Chapter 2: A Multiverse vs universes. Chapter 3: Parallel Universes vs Different Ones. Chapter 3b: Compare and contrast. Chapter 4: You are now leaving a multiverse, welcome to the omniverse.
Imagine if BW1 and BW2 were a single pair of games. With version-exclusive characters, stories, Gyms, and routes. And they took place at the same time.
People say that after they trash it at the time, it was the reason why gamefreak and poke company decide to go the fcvk fans attitude and the money obsesed goal
I remember doing this with my cousin back 7 years ago, it blew my mind I could battle my cousin with his copy of White 2 with my copy of Black version.
I hate to say this, but it seems that Hilda shows the BW2 protagonists who's the real boss and that they still have a long road to walk on before Nate and Rosa can stomp them down.
. . .
Oh my ARCEUS.
That was beautiful.
AND THAT MUSIC!
IT'S A REMIX OF THE TITLE SCREEN THEME FOR BLACK AND WHITE!
DEAR GOD IT REALLY IS POSSIBLE!
AND THIS IS WAY BETTER THEN JUST BEING A SECRET FINAL ROUND OPPONENT IN THE PWT! It's just you, yourself from the original games, and both of your team's of Pokémon who accomplished everything alongside you every step of the way.
Okay, I'm gonna say it.
THIS is officially my new ALL TIME FAVORITE BATTLE THEM IN ALL OF POKÉMON! And that takes my previous holder of that title which was the Sinnoh Battle Frontier Brain Battle Theme.
So I'm typing this in real time watching this and OH MY GOOOOOD!!!
THE BATTLE THEME IS DIFFERENT FOR A TAG BATTLE AND HAS A REMIX FROM THE BLACK 2 AND WHITE 2 TITLE SCREEN THEME! BECAUSE YOU'RE THE 2 PLAYERS FROM SEQUALS BATTLING THE 2 PROTAGONISTS AS YOUR 2 OPPONENTS FROM THE ORIGINAL UNOVA GAMES!
AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!! THIS IS SOOOO UNBELIEVABLY FREAKIN FLIPPIN BADASS! I LOVE EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS AND THIS LITTERALLY PERFECT IN EVERY SINGLE WAY.
DEAR LORD ARCEUS, I AM SO GLAD NOW MORESO THEN EVEN EVER BEFORE TO HAVE STARTED MY FIRST POKÉMON JOURNEYS IN GEN 5 WITH THE UNOVA GAMES! I really will still always be that kid from Nuvema Town. I'M SO PROUD TO BE A GEN 5ER FOR LIFE!
Thank you so much for teaching me about this and helping me somehow still discover brand new things about the Pokémon video games that I started with and am still learning about new things from for both the games that started it all for me and myself. For so many people and so many reasons these games were the end of an era. But for and countless others, it was just the beginning. And the passing of the torch of Pokémon from all those who came before us to us, at the time the newest and largest next Generation entering the world of Pokémon and the Pokémon Franchise. Now over a decade later, I am twice the age I was back then. I was 11 back in 2011 when this all started for me. I an now 22 in 2022. I have since traveled through many regions on many Journeys in Pokémon X, Alpha Sapphire, Sun, Ultra Sun, Let's go Eevee, Sword, Brilliant Diamond, and Legends Arceus. For a combined total of 10 Journeys through Kalos, Hoenn, Alola which made up 4 journeys through main and post games, Kanto which is still ongoing, Galar which I still have the Isle of Armor and Crown Tundra to look forward to, Sinnoh which is ongoing, and even the ancient Sinnoh Region known as the Hisui Region which is ongoing as well. And with multiple Journeys through the Paldea Region just on the horizon for both Scarlet and Violet, I look forward to someday returning to the place where it all started and passing on the torch to the next generation of Pokémon fans back in my home Region of Unova.
Yes it's true that I have now learned that in the world of Pokémon, all roads lead to Sinnoh. But for me particular, there is always one extra path that opens up to my home. A secret grotto pathway linking all my memories together to a beautiful vast Region unlike any that came before it. A land where the seasons change, where all new Pokémon are all new Pokémon, where you have to start all over again from zero. A Region filled and overflowing with hopes and dreams that we all hold so truly and ideally to our hearts. A Region full of wonders, mysteries, challenges that will make both the hearts soar and heartache. An ever shifting formula of concepts that mix together to form a beautiful mess of all different shades of grey. This is the power of Black and White, for it is both everything and anything but that. And I think that's the real Natural Harmony of it.
✨🔲🌠🔳✨
Edit: So I found the other video you made. Dangit, this shouldve been in the game, you'd be the perfect composer for Pokémon and GameFreak. They'd better be watching this right now.
A pleasure! Gen 5 forever!
ok
@@Mixeli any way for this to work on Desmume?
I ain't reading allat 💀
Your fingers must be hurting right now
Having a battle against Hilbert/Hilda via data transfer where they kept your legit team would've made these games literally perfect.
Fr
hands down
I got goosebumps :(
True
Hell naw I would lose to myself every day
Imagine a game having so much content and being such a masterpiece that even after 10 years, ppl are finding new things hidden in the game itself
No literally. The game is so iconic 😩
The two black and white games are amazing, even with its issues,
I mean the developers did take a huge gamble not including the previous gen Pokemon. Some people just don't like change ig
Sylvie Serene ok
Back when GameFreak gave a shit.
It really gives a similar feel to when you fought Red on Mt. Silver. But the scary part is that it's YOUR team that you're fighting.
what's so scary about it? this is a dream come true!
@@W_shogun fr
Fighting your team is especially scarry if you're a competitive player
Or just because of ev and it's as well as items
I’m gonna honest-seeing the fusion bolt/flare animation being different when BOTH moves are used in success in the same turn WAS SUMN I NEVER KNEW I NEEDED TO SEE. And this game came out over a decade ago…my love hasn’t faded and glad it didn’t
Timestamp
@@LGOKUL2303 21:00 :))
That shit look so cool man, one of many reason why the Tao trio are my favourite legendary
Over a decade and I never even knew that was a thing. Is this exclusive to BW2? I don’t remember this being a thing when fighting N in his castle in the first game.
@@TheWazzoGamesit’s weird to say but it’s bc fire and electric both are weak against dragon. So in the fight w N, you TECHNICALLY have no reason to use it bc the battle is on the line. But this wasn’t N
I love how badass both Hilbert and Hilda's sprite when being your opponent...
The 12 year old me is screaming inside LMAO
Same here
Man, B/W came out when I was 18, crazy realizing there's a whole generation where this is their version of fighting Red on top of Mt. Silver in G/S/C
Pokemon truly is timeless.
@@perotekkuyou're 30yo now?
@@Telgdshhj 31 now, but yeah
Fr Hilbert my 2nd favorite behind reds
Really miss how every sprite animation makes them look so alive yet never going too far and making the design of the characters/pokemon look awful.
Would love if they took the time to make another pokemon game with sprites.
Too bad the fans will hate the game regardless of sprites or not.
I do hope game freak gets a chance to do a sprite game one or two more times at least.
@@groudonor12 everyone loves gen 5 and they are considered the best games…
@@justthenamekevin nowadays
@@Rubyshedinja33 even back then they were mostly loved.
it's literally the 5th Generation version of Red VS Gold
We need more protagonist battles.
@@SegaMario imagine if there was an event in Pokemons HGSS where you could fight lucas/dawn in the battle frontier,or even Brendan/may in Kanto..
@@ghirardelio4037 THAT would be awesome.
@@ghirardelio4037 the final boss is Kris instead of red lol
Little Question: Is this Mixeli's team or random Pokémon or did Game Freak really made a canon team for them?
love how you made the game's intro theme into a custom battle theme
I really like this kind of videos... Seeing the characters with their proper names and their real starters plus some team members is so satisfying tbh
I thought only gen 1 trio had canon starters that were established in let's go.
@@---oq5kb Those weren't accurate actually because it was a manga tribute... That's why Red and Leaf's designs were so different
@@gabrielevalentini4438 when I wrote this I thought you were referring to what they received in the Manga. If it's not that then what is it?
@@---oq5kb Well some of them have been shown in the game universe with their starters: Nate with Emboar, Rosa with Serperior, May with Blaziken and Swampert, Brendan with Sceptile, etc... The others most probably come from Masters EX which is still a (messy) representation of the game universe: Red (protagonist) and Charizard, Leaf and Venusaur, Ethan (protagonist?) and Typhlosion, Lyra (protagonist?) and Meganium, Kris and Feraligatr, Dawn (protagonist) and Torterra, Lucas and Infernape, Calem still unclear, Serena (protagonist) and Delphox, Elio (protagonist?) and Primarina, Selene (protagonist?) and Decidueye, Gloria (protagonist) and Inteleon and Victor and Rillaboom
@@gabrielevalentini4438 I have played masters ex, and the story for some characters mention stuff about how these aren't their original mons but were actually eggs, I would assume the same is true for characters (silver not having any of the starters should be a proof of that.)
Also do you mean animated trailers when you say "shown in universe"? Because I think they just randomly pick starters for trailers just to show them, basically like artworks that show the starters with other characters.
Guys, you should be aware that Mixeli is trolling everyone. The music for the battle is actually an original composition and this might took a lot of effort to make it very convincing.
This isn't real?
rip
@@dannyphantom3591 yes, but however... Hilda and Hilbert were actually planned for the game but scrapped because of time constraints.
@@noobishnubreal I thought something was up the minute "Hilbert" wasn't acting automatically...
Kind of upsetting that so many people fell for this like those old 2010s TyranitarTube fan vids. Took way too long to find this comment of someone not playing along.
Knew that fusion flare and fusion bolt boost each other when used on the same turn, but didn't knew that their animation also became different.... Very interesting
May i get the timestamp please?
@@miruz3519 21:19 is a prime example
@@epichi2604 thankyou so much!!
Game Freak has introduced to us the Memory Link:
Memory Link allows players to sync either of the original Black and White games with Black 2 and White 2 via Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection or DS Wireless Communications.
With this explanation, Hilbert and Hilda is actually your own character in Black and White. You are the protagonist!
Hilbert and Hilda are actually available in B2W2 they are
actually in the game!
The only way to meet them is via the Pokemon Center
in Pokemon Wireless Club Union Room.
You can actually talk to them, draw with them and even challenging them on a Pokemon Battle!
This is the main reason! We cannot have two Hilbert/Hilda at
the same time since you are the protagonist!
Just like Red in Pokemon Emerald! He is available too!
Adding something:
Everything is written in the video. The answer is The memory link. During your adventure of B2/W2, N and plenty other important character Mention the protagonist from B/W as "Somebody" instead of the protagonist name of Black White.
But if you put the memory link of your actual save file of Black and White, they all instead of saying somebody will say your own name that you gave to the main character in BW which mean your save file made the previous protagonist canon for giving the save file, thus, having a real name.
By that logic, If you use the actual game (Pokemon Black and White) in which you use the exact same game for the memory link and do a battle with Black 2 and White 2 protagonist, this mean that the protagonist you challenge is the exact same as the one that N and plenty other have mentioned. He or She can be challenged directly on the Pokemon Center
in Pokemon Wireless Club Union Room.
It all depend if you use the real save or not. If you use the exact same save as the memory link it became canon, if not then it isn't the same protagonist that they have mentionned only if you pick a different save file. On my case, I used the real save.
Very good video
In short, Hilbert and Hilda are "NPC's" because they represent us if we connect through the B/W editions
Se podrá en el DraStic?, por favor, díganme si se puede, quiero pasarme todo el pokemon negro/blanco otra vez! 🥺🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Do you need two 3ds to try this?
They're not though
Union room connections are links between parallel/alt universes as explained in ORAS, each pokemon save is a different parallel universe and in the case of B2W2 to BW links, time travel as well (like gen 1 to gen 2 links)
Even if you say that you meet their past selves in the union room
that's not the real BW protag, just an identical parallel version, as they were is BW
The real Hilbert/Hilda in your B2W2 is in a different region still looking for N
20:50 This is the most badass Gen 5 battle I’ve ever scene hands down. Black and white Kyurem going toe to toe versus Zekrom and Reshiram in an all out fight to the death.
I loved the Memory Link. It was so cool, seeing the characters actually reference the BW1 protagonist by name. So many cool events to see, and then battling my old team from BW1 with my new one in BW2? So amazing!! Granted I was playing both DS's...haha.
Other theory, What if Hilda and Hilbert got scattered with Ingo and Emmet to other legends games
To be fair we don't know if Emmet was sent to the past, although it would be cool to maybe see an ancient Johto/Kanto region and find one of them at the top of Mount Silver, give them an actual canon team and have it be the "Cynthia" battle of said legends game
I wish the legends would be more like linear where its the same character that gets thrown to different periods of different region like Quantum Leap meets Everything, Everywhere, All at Once.
@@MegaMew204 "canon" is redundant, when we got Red using a completely different team back in the Let's Go games, at best they could try taking "liberties" from the Hilbert/Hilda's manga counterparts.
It would be the ultimate fan service if we were able to fight previous trainers like red
Mixeli, I said once and I’m going to say it again. Thank you so much for making Pokémon White 2 videos to this day! Not everyone does it, and I really appreciate for you doing so! 💙
This made me feel like i was watching the Vs Red battle. I am so happy that Hilbert is still here. My favourite trainer design too.
For me BW MC dude is on par with Platinum MC dude design wise
@@DERRPANZER I really like BW MC design. Top 3 for me
@@MR_DUALITY ye me too
For me
1st Platinum mc
2nd BW MC
3rd Red
I actually used this feature back when I got White 2! I didn't have friends to play with back then and I would setup teams to fight against and then battle them with a random selection from my box. All this time I was convinced I fought Hilda in the Pokemon World Tournament but this actually rejogged my memory!
I played both white a ND white 2 for a total of maybe 3k hours, checked every corner of the map, did all the dream radar and game link stuff and I was never able to find the original trainers to battle, seeing this year's later is like a fever dream
I think they could implement them in the world tournament, carrying out your team from that save file at the moment of updating the via link
But what if you change the team later with the same save file is why they didn't
He even says thats the reason for why it could never be your actual team
Plus, if you wanted to be cheeky, you'd just give yourself a completely crappy team and make the entire battle a breeze on purpose
@@adamtheriault6743 Yeah that's what some may do, but going all out against yourself sounds really cool, I would have loved a feature like that.
@@adamtheriault6743 Yeah what i mean, the team you was carrying at the moment you have linked your save file, if you want to update it, you had to update you link connection, in a similar way gen 4 worked with PBR
They actually have unused dialogue for just that
This changes everything we thought on what happened to Hilbert and Hilda
Didn't we think they were murdered
@@Rosalikesghosts Yeah
@@Rosalikesghosts lol why did you think that?
@@dr.zapatoso7220 Ghetsis, probably.
@@dr.zapatoso7220 Ghetis and his actually dark tendencies
the fact that this was even conceived shows the level of pasion and effort the devs had in BW2
I think if they were to do this officially in the game, PWT finals theme would be the best choice for their theme.
i love how the song sounds just like the champ theme from s/m
Honestly, Pokemon could've ended at Gen 5 and I would've been happy. There's just something magical about Gen 5. It feels like the Pokemon we all know and love, yet new. It forces you to use new Pokemon and look at the same world through new eyes. While we all love our Garchomps and Pikachus and Blastoises, there's something to be said about the bold decision to make us use the Gen 5 Pokemon exclusively. A decision that could've easily backfired but didn't and as a result gave us Pokemon we adore equally. Gen 5 is why I generally try to use the new Pokemon of each generation in my first playthrough of the game.
I wish I would've known about this when I was younger. I would've LOVED to battle my BW team, granted of how strong it was.
I only had 1 DS, so I dont think I really could've done this if I knew about it back then. This is genuinely amazing
Best pokemon game hands down. Video is probably great too :)
Damn, Hilda is clutch. I thought the battle was over when Liligant died to sandstorm, then "Oh nvm, Emboar is still in the back. GG"
the most shocking thing about this isn’t how you can battle the other protags, but the fact that your own mom was nurse joy
Lol
Family reunion is going to be really awkward
It has been 10 years. Yet i still get a chance to travel into the times of 2012 and Play Black 2 in where i will fight Hilbert. Good Old memorys and childhood. long has it been but i will come a last time back for you.
It's incredible how you keep uploading footage of a 10 year old game... I totally had no idea this was possible.
Yeah I definitely did not read that as "Secret Superboss Hitler".
That battle against Hilbert felt scripted. Victory despite 1 HP and poison; that is crazy lol
It is
I mean, it's basically two player-controlled battle, and one person only put the battles in motion 😂
I wasn't expecting that- Wait i remember i played Pokemon Black and then Black 2 but i didn't expecting this still exist. I'm glad you made a video of it and show some interesting information
Krookodile in the double battle was a whole demon for a moment.
Once again I am mad because Hilbert was literally Red 2.0 and we did not get that epic end fight.
So canonically Hilbert gets Reshiram and Hilda gets Zekrom.
Simple fix to the hilbert/Hilda team problem, just use the first latest Hall of fame team
But what if they haven't beat the game yet...
@@NlA_the_2st probably a default team of a random starter and decently powerful mons ingame and the legendary opposite of N’s dragon
Thats actually clever
Dude has got 4 consoles, what a Legend
It's so nice to still see these beautiful games some attention
I love this vid, the battle and the music left me speachless. Absolute Pokémon peak
I remember my cousins playing BW2 with each other 10 years ago when we got together for events. I really, REALLY wish I was convinced by them to get this game, but I had no idea which game it was at the time. Now all the games are super expensive. Oof.
You can always play it on an emulator for free
@@realpotassiumit's absolutely nowhere near the same as holding the console. It's a very sad attempt to give a sliver of the experience.
I've tried so many but nothing beats being able to play at the kitchen table at 3am, rolling over in bed with it in your hands, moving to the living room, and running back to the charger. The touch screen features working as intended and the little speakers on either side. It's just soulless on emulators
@@paradis0744
Fair enough.
You can always look for a video game shop at a flea market. Only problem is they tend to be on the pricy side for the DS cartridges. I managed to get a cartridge with an SD in it once with over 200 games just for $50CAD once, and it works pretty well. Just watch out for price gauging.
I thought this was real until the music was a remix of sun and moon champion theme. I think this might be a bit too convincing for a lot of people.
They’re Back, and they’re ready for 1 more battle!
Nice job with the backgorund Mixeli, looks amazing!
10年も前なのに愛されてるんだなと思いましたbw2最高
This was incredible! Pokémon Black & White's battles had me at the edge of my conch! 💥
Idea: They should let you link your DS file to your Switch file in the upcoming remakes, whenever they happen.
If it weren't for that ice punch and the sandstorm, Liligant would never fainted
Thank you for this video, I realized the teams that were used were apart of the characters main Pokémon in the Pokémon videos… as a gen 5 fanatic this is a great video, after gen 7 came out I stopped keeping up with it
It peeves me that Swordbert had a sword on his head
Shieldbert had a shield on his head.
But Hilbert doesn't have a hill on his head.
It really shouldn't bug me, but it does.
Never forget that gen 5 made a sick beat when your Pokémon’s HP got too low.
The teams for each player look kinda legit. The only thing I’d change is for Nate: Braviary instead of Sawsbuck because of Masters EX
"If somewhere in this world their is someone who understands you, it feels like that person is right beside you, even if you're as far apart as the end of the land and the top of the sky"
THAT HILBERT SPRITE IN THE THUMPNAIL IS SO BADASS
This is insanely cool. I wish it was real.
Huge Gen 4 fan because of the nostalgia, but when it comes to Gen 5 everything about it is perfect.
Cynthia junpscare
I was wholeheartedly expecting this video to be a few years old but its 2 days ago…BW2 were the best games ever IMO
11:47 That literally could not have been closer. Winning with a 1HP left _poisoned_ Pokemon? Damn.
I'd shit myself on sight.
My 31 IV, EV trained, min maxed postgame team with battle frontier items against my fun in-game team?
I'm in danger!
Crazy how Nate won wit one health left. That shoulda been a tie or a loss. Swords dance really and no speed boost lol
If its been in the game for so long, how come nobody found this ost
That’s what I wanted to know!
I created it.
@@Mixeli Wow! That’s really good work! I was just curious because I was looking for it to add to my playlist.
it's fanmade ruclips.net/video/WuU09_TDiiE/видео.html
not sure of the second one
@@Mixeli i need it 💀
It would have been epic if activating the Memory Link unlocked a match against Hilbert/Hilda's Hall of Fame team in the Pokemon World Tournament, that being the "canon battle" between Hilbert/Hilda and Nate/Rosa.
For real!! 😍😍
You finally posted this videooooo!!!!
Now we need to tell N where they are now!
You can also battle Bianca and Cheren using their original teams from the first game via memory link.
Even the music, Daaang. Lovely xD
buena batalla hulbert y hilda kyuren ven cido x reshilam y zekrom buen video
Crazy how people are talking about this NOW even after almost a decade
*Sends out Black Kyurem* meanwhile people playing Black and White: *Sees regular Kyurem using Freeze Shock*
It took me a while to realize that B2/W2 are 2 years after the first game and different protags
My inner kid is screaming, I really hope gamefreak make a game where all the past MCs and rivals are interactable to somehow match the vibes that the Pokedex Holders of the Adventures Manga give off..
Well, we have Pokemon Masters, but it's gacha systemed, so not too nice for those with not so good luck 😂
I remember trying to do memory link when I was playing the bw2 rom unfortunately I couldn't do it. Also some of Nate pokemon is from the animated special all those years ago
Hopefully if we get Black and White remakes, they put this feature in!
hopefully not
They really went all out on this game dang makes me think when game freak used to be cool like this
It's not even real...
@@seank.cunningham3841 very true
And be glad they're still giving you guys open world.
Honestly I would say Pokemon Black and White and Pokemon Black2 and White2 are masterpiece
I have played Pokemon White2 and Black2
This game is so nostalgic😢😢
So, what you mean is that they are in the game because their sprite is in the game because in this example you are fighting against yourself, right? Like... that Hilbert in the Union Room is you with a different Nintendo system, right? Am I understanding this right?
No, as far as I saw the memory link, should you have completed enough things in your B/W save, it’ll copy your team in the memory link and if you go to the union room and the center of the room, your B/W character’s save data will be used to create an npc you can interact with that’ll be the trainer sprite of Hilda or Hilbert, at least that’s what it seems to be
Yup, you're right. I remember when I casually played with my cousin or my friends in some battles between B2W2 and BW. So this video is actually pretty builded up :/, since B-Kyurem shouldn't be usable in battles against a BW user.
@@AleHappyGamer You can fight use Black/White Kyurem against a Black/White save file, but they see base form Kyurem, instead. This is also the only legitimate way to see the Black/White Freeze Shock and Ice Burn animations(which, like many animations, are slightly different).
@@zephra1675 No, these are just wireless battles between copies of BW and BW2. The only battles unlocked by memory link are against Cheren and Bianca with the starters they had in the linked game.
@@zephra1675 that is soo fricking cool the b/w series are sooo underrated tbh
Damn idk if this is possible in an emulator(I use drastic on my phone) but I wish I could link my BW and my BW2 save files
I wish too, I introduced my lover to Pokemon last year and I'd really like to make possible this experience!
On GBA emulator was possible though the switch of the "load save" for example red fire and emerald.
Dunno if this works on ds emulators, surely not with the android one
@@vincykyu it doesn't work on drastic
I remember testing it on my 3DS with my brother's and did a few battles and trades.
5:28 a shiny garchomp
According to Pokemon Generations, Hilbert has Zekrom whereas Hilda would have Emboar and Reshiram according to Pokemon Evolutions since she was in possession of the Light Stone
thats just a spin off dont take it too literally. most people accept black/hilbert having reshiram as the canon choice because N is most represented with zekrom in almost all mediums
I think the manga is more accurate
I feel like Reshiram fits more for both protagonists. N is a very idealistic person and you’re the one who forces him to see the truth.
But first we need to talk about the multiverses.
Chapter 1: What is are multiverses
Chapter 2: A Multiverse vs universes.
Chapter 3: Parallel Universes vs Different Ones.
Chapter 3b: Compare and contrast.
Chapter 4: You are now leaving a multiverse, welcome to the omniverse.
@@sean1oo1 wait what mediums I always see n with reshiram especially in official art
You can battle some from BW on BW2 with your kyurem black or white. On their screen, it’ll just show image error
Whee did you get the background you used in the video
Imagine if BW1 and BW2 were a single pair of games. With version-exclusive characters, stories, Gyms, and routes. And they took place at the same time.
Gen 5 really was the last great gen of Pokémon…
Nostalgia is one hell of a drug
@@odianosenodigieosazuwa7660 it usually is. but for pokemon, gen 5 was the peak of the series. it has all been downhill since.
People say that after they trash it at the time, it was the reason why gamefreak and poke company decide to go the fcvk fans attitude and the money obsesed goal
Well there's always the Blaze Black 2 and Volt White 2 romhacks that have a Hilbert and Hilda NPC that you can battle
His animation is so cool. Hell, Hilbert IS the coolest pokemon protagonist and I don't care what you say about Red.
I remember doing this with my cousin back 7 years ago, it blew my mind I could battle my cousin with his copy of White 2 with my copy of Black version.
When u sent out garchomp I had no idea it was shiny until I heard the shiny noise
Black/White Remake When?
Probably when Gen 10 Comes out
Finally someone who puts Hilbert with Reshiram and Hilda with Zekrom, i love it!
*As crazy as it is, it would be cool to challenge the player in the previous chapter.*
Hey Mixeli how about Lucas vs Gold or whatever his hgss name is that would be cool.
The music, will you ever upload it separately or have you done so already?
Wasn't it the final PWT tournament theme that was supposed to be their theme?
What would the pokemon black 1 see kyurem black as since it wasn't in the game
Kyurem
so needless to say moxie krookadile is a fucking beast and hilda is the best gen 5 clutch protagonist XD
I wish there was something like gold+red vs brendan+hilbert, i would pay to see that battle
Would be better if its platinum luka instead of Brendan
I hate to say this, but it seems that Hilda shows the BW2 protagonists who's the real boss and that they still have a long road to walk on before Nate and Rosa can stomp them down.