What I say now sounds wierd but I got one a few weeks ago (just for fun, you know and I liked the look) - since then I don´t play my Engel Savage anymore😲! And she has a name: Frida! My Engel just amplifies my guitars, but Frida puts character and soul into the sound! 😀 Good job, Thomann!!
Interesting. I had an Engl e650 Ritchie Blackmore for a few years. It was and still is my favorite amp and based on the Savage. Only got rid of it because of the weight that just isn't practical for a small band without roadies. At least from what I heard in this video, the Tube 30 is miles away from the amazing sound of the e650. But I don't say that because of the price difference. I myself have affordable Amps and a Harley Benton SC 550, that I love. So maybe this first impression is wrong and the Tube 30 could be a great amp for me. Is it possible for you to describe what specifically makes the Tube 30 more viable for you then the Savage? I know that is no easy task. ^^" Thanks!
These sound great, because it is a Laney VC-30. I had the Monoprice version (exact same controls, size, specs, looks as this) and it had a Laney PCB board inside it with the "Laney" branding gooped over. The original is a well regarded amp, mine also came with all JJ tubes.
Great short review. I know they probably won't let you, but I would love to see the interior and how well everything is wired together, tied off, etc. Maybe a side by side with amps in a similar price range. Also, liked the shirt, but I never see you with a goat shirt. Do you have something against hollow horned ruminants? Are they not good enough for the Henning collection??? How bout a baby goat shirt next time? 🤣
I did notice that "overdrive" section has both Gain and Overdrive knob. Put Gain on 10 o'clock and crank the Overdrive, you might have "Highgain" then.😁
Nice little amp! The OD sounded ok ? but didn´t blow me away! The cleans were very clean! Maybe a good pedal platform? I wanna see an indepth review please young man, with a ton of pedals! 🙂
I bought an Orange Micro Terror around 2016 and if I ever bough a more powerful head, I'd go with the Orange Rocker 15 Terror. That said, this looks and sounds very good and at a more affordable price. You could get this head and HB G212 vertical Celestion V30 and be set!
Just an fyi, I think both the micro terror and rocker 15 have class AB power amps inside them (rocker has el84s and micro is solid state). This potentially means that it wouldn’t actually be that much louder and could even possibly be quieter given the micro is 20 watts and rocker is 15. Even thought they’re solid state, orange really beefed up the micros! 👍 best to compare before buying unless it’s the 2 channel part that appeals more 😊
Sounds great! Honestly, what more do most players need? I have several HB guitars. All of them decent with only one of them having an issue, which is typical for any brand in that price range from China. I don't know about long term reliability of HB amps, there can always be problems with tube amps, even expensive ones. Consult the internet on that. But I would definitely buy one if I didn't have more than I need already. The size, the price, the sound, the (sensible) 30 watts. Worth looking at for practice, backup, or not taking your Mesa/Marshall/Fender to sketchy venues. Bang for the buck!
My first guitar was an SC Csutom 2. I really liked it, but! The wires are crap. The pick up switch was crazy when I played like 25-30 hours on it The jack input is always lose, no matter what I am doing. And the knobs are not that responsive. And it has a few minor issues (cosmetic mostly) I own a Schecter Omen Extreme now and I have to say the SC Custom II was a good first guitar, but if I had known that the Schecter is so much better in every way, I definitely would have spent the extra money and chosen it as my first guitar. Not only is it better, but it will be perfectly suitable for years because it's a great guitar.
I don't know who makes these, but they started as clones of the old Laney 15 Cub. You could get the combo on Monoprice. Now there's a head version and Harley Benton has started branding them. Years ago I got the 15w combo for $150. It was a crazy deal, and I still have the amp many years later. That "Tone" knob has always been an oddity and a unique feature of these weird clones.
I have the tube 15 combo and after i swapped the celestion 70 80 for a hesu demon speaker and jj tubes, it's a nice metal amp... And the effects loop is great, if i go into the return with a good overdrive or distortion pedal, it's much louder then if i put it in the back of my engl metal master... The reverb is "meh", but the tone knob is very usefull and yes it's for the whole amp...
Good sounding amp. Goes to show that you dont need a big name on the front to sound good. Amps are made from electrical components and a white piece of plastic reading a name changes nothing.
Wenn du eh schon bei Thomann bist, wird es denn das warehouse Video zu der Harley Benton ST Modern Plus geben ?.....falls nicht ist das ja auch schon eine wertvolle Information ;-)
Great video! What is with HB availability ? I see that more than 50% of their product range is out of stock with 2-3 months expected delivery time. Do they have a production issues or do really people buy these in thousands?
Wondering if that's "inspired" by a laney VC... or lionheart as they got rebranded. Technically the second channel is the same as the first but with a master volume control added. it also has/had an overall tone control
Looks like a VC30-112 in head format, front panel controls - Laney style master Tone control, rear panel connections & switches etc. Effects loop bypass, -10db, 0db are pretty much identical and the spec seems very similar. If it didn't say Thomann / Harley Benton on it I'd assume I was looking at a VC30.
@@EytschPi42 Like I need ANOTHER guitar. Guitars are like wine. Everyone wants to be in the business they have passion for. If I were thinking of getting into the guitar biz, I'd hope to alter course and get into porta potties instead. But I don't have anything against HB, just the Davidson thing.
Cool, always good to have affordable options (compared with big names) for all-tube amps, which should be available for everyone, nothing like it. I loved the clean & crunchy sounds, as a metal head I’d still use a tube preamp in the FX Return just for the chugga chugga chugs 😎
Even Thomann itself doesn't describe this correctly on their website. They state that the "Tone" knob is for the reverb sound - which is obviously not the case.
Acshuaaallyyyy…. It’s a post phase inverter tone knob which shorts the grids feeds out through a capacitor. It’s got nothing to do with negative feedback, hence it’s not a presence control.
Figured this was coming when I saw the Joyo offerings- which I think also fall in the 400-500 dollar range. That's not bad- that's the price of a decent modeler. That said- in both cases- that's just half the cost actually- now you need a cab. If you go with the modeler, you need a powered cab- which aint cheap- at all, costs as much or more than the modeler. If you go with the real tube amp- you just need a passive cab, which somehow- costs damn near as much as a powered one- go figure. And if you're like me- not very bright, you think- "But it's just a speaker in a box- I can build that." You can, you can definitely build a box and stick a speaker in it- and it will sound like sh1t. Must be the carpet right- so carpet the box- now it sounds like muffled sh1t. Turns out that "box" is highly designed with all kinds of baffles and stuff- just buy it, trust me. I mean if you had one you could measure, take apart, and copy exactly- you might do alright- but you can't just make a box- doesn't work that way. Besides, when you go to buy the speaker- if you get a good one, you pay nearly as much as a cab anyway. Just find a used, passive cab and pay up. But yeah- by the time you pay for that as well- you've about doubled the cost. I guess you could be a headphone rockstar, but no one will know but you. You could make a huge splitter and buy a bunch of headphones I guess..... man, this is some goods sh1t... I'm hungry.
But this is how capitalism works. You have a handful companies that innovate, and then you have a shit-ton of companies that clone and copy at cut-rate prices.
it usually says "sponsored by" really clearly above the logo... this time I forgot it, but I also usually say that I am paid... that much is pretty clear now. and I am saying that I am IN THE THOMANN videos studio... seems to be clear even though this time I forgot the sponsored tag in the editing.
So when you're at home, do you play a naked amp, or do you either push it from the front or the effects loop? _Surely_ you don't go for the worst possible sounds, why on aarth would you have a studio full of pedals and add-ons otherwise?
actually, when I am recording I go for the naked amp 90% of the time. This is why I have a bunch of amps that do different things. If I want more gain I go to an amp that does that. I sometimes experiment and go for a more unusual effect and then I obviously use pedals, but for the "meat and potatoes" sounds, I use plain amps. Also... I clearly didn't make this video at home and had limited time and resources to add pedals etc. This is why I said I only have limited time to make this "quick" video.
I feel cheated. You say you got 20 min for a video, but we only get 11:17! Seriously, where is the rest? What are you all hiding? Someone needs to investigate!! 🤪
Hoe did they do? Well, in fact, industrially building a tube amplifier is cheap. They often cost a lot in terms of market positioning, but the technology used is cheap and old
@@StudioChimielyou could just fast forward… but then what would you whine about? You sound like a jealous person who can’t play themselves, when you say stuff like this, just so you know.
@@mikeygoda I'm an indeed even worse than Pauly. And I am a jealous person. And I fast forward when he plays, but that is giving me work that could be fixed in the edit.
A Harley Benton commercial. The usual shtik on sponsored "reviews" , skeptical at first, then morphs into an "outstanding" review with many product shots and mentions.
What I say now sounds wierd but I got one a few weeks ago (just for fun, you know and I liked the look) - since then I don´t play my Engel Savage anymore😲! And she has a name: Frida! My Engel just amplifies my guitars, but Frida puts character and soul into the sound! 😀 Good job, Thomann!!
Interesting. I had an Engl e650 Ritchie Blackmore for a few years. It was and still is my favorite amp and based on the Savage. Only got rid of it because of the weight that just isn't practical for a small band without roadies.
At least from what I heard in this video, the Tube 30 is miles away from the amazing sound of the e650. But I don't say that because of the price difference. I myself have affordable Amps and a Harley Benton SC 550, that I love.
So maybe this first impression is wrong and the Tube 30 could be a great amp for me. Is it possible for you to describe what specifically makes the Tube 30 more viable for you then the Savage?
I know that is no easy task. ^^"
Thanks!
You have just made that great singlecut B-stock!
😂😂
These sound great, because it is a Laney VC-30. I had the Monoprice version (exact same controls, size, specs, looks as this) and it had a Laney PCB board inside it with the "Laney" branding gooped over. The original is a well regarded amp, mine also came with all JJ tubes.
I have been waiting for this review for almost 6 months :)
I've got the rube 15, awesome..
Btw , nice song at the end.
Tube 15 combo has a 3 knob tonestack and a fourth tone knob too. I think, it`s a presence pot in the power amp section.
Great short review. I know they probably won't let you, but I would love to see the interior and how well everything is wired together, tied off, etc. Maybe a side by side with amps in a similar price range. Also, liked the shirt, but I never see you with a goat shirt. Do you have something against hollow horned ruminants? Are they not good enough for the Henning collection??? How bout a baby goat shirt next time?
🤣
Henning, you make the most fun demo vids.
Thanks for keeping me informed and entertained
I did notice that "overdrive" section has both Gain and Overdrive knob. Put Gain on 10 o'clock and crank the Overdrive, you might have "Highgain" then.😁
The 2nd knob is called "Overdrive Volume", not "Overdrive". So it's just the master volume for the overdrive channel, not an additional gain.
Nice little amp! The OD sounded ok ? but didn´t blow me away! The cleans were very clean! Maybe a good pedal platform? I wanna see an indepth review please young man, with a ton of pedals! 🙂
I bought an Orange Micro Terror around 2016 and if I ever bough a more powerful head, I'd go with the Orange Rocker 15 Terror.
That said, this looks and sounds very good and at a more affordable price. You could get this head and HB G212 vertical Celestion V30 and be set!
Just an fyi, I think both the micro terror and rocker 15 have class AB power amps inside them (rocker has el84s and micro is solid state). This potentially means that it wouldn’t actually be that much louder and could even possibly be quieter given the micro is 20 watts and rocker is 15.
Even thought they’re solid state, orange really beefed up the micros! 👍 best to compare before buying unless it’s the 2 channel part that appeals more 😊
Sounds great! Honestly, what more do most players need? I have several HB guitars. All of them decent with only one of them having an issue, which is typical for any brand in that price range from China. I don't know about long term reliability of HB amps, there can always be problems with tube amps, even expensive ones. Consult the internet on that. But I would definitely buy one if I didn't have more than I need already. The size, the price, the sound, the (sensible) 30 watts. Worth looking at for practice, backup, or not taking your Mesa/Marshall/Fender to sketchy venues. Bang for the buck!
Prety sure they make a 15-watt version as well- which trust me, is plenty loud enough for gigging- but much easier to tame for playing at home.
Amp sounds pretty darn good! \m/
7:56 I remember that lead line, that's a great piece of music
In a few months you go see a band, look at the backline! I think Harley Benton is there blowing out sum nice sounds! But thats my opinion....... ♨️🎸♨️
I do get the idea, which is why I'm tiring of many RUclips channels.
I suspect a lot of the sound quality can be attributed to the well-built cabinet (i. e. the speakers).
Also a Harley Benton cab, loaded with Celestion Vintage 30s.
@@D14V0R05 I know - it's mentioned in the video.
My first guitar was an SC Csutom 2. I really liked it, but! The wires are crap. The pick up switch was crazy when I played like 25-30 hours on it The jack input is always lose, no matter what I am doing. And the knobs are not that responsive. And it has a few minor issues (cosmetic mostly)
I own a Schecter Omen Extreme now and I have to say the SC Custom II was a good first guitar, but if I had known that the Schecter is so much better in every way, I definitely would have spent the extra money and chosen it as my first guitar. Not only is it better, but it will be perfectly suitable for years because it's a great guitar.
I don't know who makes these, but they started as clones of the old Laney 15 Cub. You could get the combo on Monoprice. Now there's a head version and Harley Benton has started branding them. Years ago I got the 15w combo for $150. It was a crazy deal, and I still have the amp many years later. That "Tone" knob has always been an oddity and a unique feature of these weird clones.
CHEAP LABOUR : LOW OVER HEADS
clean channel sounds really good
I have the tube 15 combo and after i swapped the celestion 70 80 for a hesu demon speaker and jj tubes, it's a nice metal amp...
And the effects loop is great, if i go into the return with a good overdrive or distortion pedal, it's much louder then if i put it in the back of my engl metal master...
The reverb is "meh", but the tone knob is very usefull and yes it's for the whole amp...
Thanks Henning.
Good sounding amp. Goes to show that you dont need a big name on the front to sound good. Amps are made from electrical components and a white piece of plastic reading a name changes nothing.
ACT{UALLY>>>A NAME DOES>> YOUR STUPID> MY MARSHALL AND MESA BOOGIE SMOKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THIS AMP. You know they do also.
I disagree. Play a Diezel vh4...
Wenn du eh schon bei Thomann bist, wird es denn das warehouse Video zu der Harley Benton ST Modern Plus geben ?.....falls nicht ist das ja auch schon eine wertvolle Information ;-)
Wahrscheinlich leider keine ST Modern Plus im Warehouse 😂😢
I could look in the box, but... Massive pause...
Pause continues...
Nah...
Best bit of dialogue I've heard for months.
Thanks Henning! x
Great video! What is with HB availability ? I see that more than 50% of their product range is out of stock with 2-3 months expected delivery time. Do they have a production issues or do really people buy these in thousands?
People buy them
Beautiful cows!
Wondering if that's "inspired" by a laney VC... or lionheart as they got rebranded. Technically the second channel is the same as the first but with a master volume control added. it also has/had an overall tone control
Looks like a VC30-112 in head format, front panel controls - Laney style master Tone control, rear panel connections & switches etc. Effects loop bypass, -10db, 0db are pretty much identical and the spec seems very similar. If it didn't say Thomann / Harley Benton on it I'd assume I was looking at a VC30.
Now there is no excuse not to own a combination guitar amp and room heater. Not bad.
"Lets crank that shit up". 😂
Hey whats that song in the end? Thx for the review. Cheers!
This amp would be perfect at 350 bucks, at current pricing is OVERpriced.
Control panel looks just like the old Laney VC range. Sounds similar, too.
Can you say MONOPRICE?
, but where did Monoprice come from?
How are the flamed necks on the new HB strats that you were going to check out?
HB range is lacking affordable reactive load for the tube amps.
HB makes the pa-100 and pa-250 watt power attenuaters . 63 and 135 bucks, respectively . On thomann website
@@fuzzymuppet1990 they are resistive loads.
HB needs to make a 50w and 100w 6L6/EL34 powered head next...
I couldn't bring myself to buy a Harley Benton for one simple reason: the name reminds me of Harley Davidson. 😂
your loss
@@EytschPi42 Like I need ANOTHER guitar. Guitars are like wine. Everyone wants to be in the business they have passion for. If I were thinking of getting into the guitar biz, I'd hope to alter course and get into porta potties instead. But I don't have anything against HB, just the Davidson thing.
Cool, always good to have affordable options (compared with big names) for all-tube amps, which should be available for everyone, nothing like it.
I loved the clean & crunchy sounds, as a metal head I’d still use a tube preamp in the FX Return just for the chugga chugga chugs 😎
Crazy how good low cost gear is these days
🔥
Yesssssss! Thääääänk juuuuuu🤩🤩🤩🤩
Spiritual successor to Bugera.
Looks on par with the Stage Right amp heads...
So many companies have done it why wouldnt HB?
Now slap a Metalzone in front of it... I know you want to... :D
“When in doubt, Metal Zone.” - Ola Englund, 2021
@@robf.7404 So it is written, so it shall be done!
That TONE is actually the Prescence knob.
Even Thomann itself doesn't describe this correctly on their website. They state that the "Tone" knob is for the reverb sound - which is obviously not the case.
Acshuaaallyyyy…. It’s a post phase inverter tone knob which shorts the grids feeds out through a capacitor. It’s got nothing to do with negative feedback, hence it’s not a presence control.
Good news: they're £379.
Bad news: they're on back order (6 to 8 weeks).
Figured this was coming when I saw the Joyo offerings- which I think also fall in the 400-500 dollar range. That's not bad- that's the price of a decent modeler. That said- in both cases- that's just half the cost actually- now you need a cab. If you go with the modeler, you need a powered cab- which aint cheap- at all, costs as much or more than the modeler. If you go with the real tube amp- you just need a passive cab, which somehow- costs damn near as much as a powered one- go figure. And if you're like me- not very bright, you think- "But it's just a speaker in a box- I can build that." You can, you can definitely build a box and stick a speaker in it- and it will sound like sh1t. Must be the carpet right- so carpet the box- now it sounds like muffled sh1t. Turns out that "box" is highly designed with all kinds of baffles and stuff- just buy it, trust me. I mean if you had one you could measure, take apart, and copy exactly- you might do alright- but you can't just make a box- doesn't work that way. Besides, when you go to buy the speaker- if you get a good one, you pay nearly as much as a cab anyway. Just find a used, passive cab and pay up. But yeah- by the time you pay for that as well- you've about doubled the cost. I guess you could be a headphone rockstar, but no one will know but you. You could make a huge splitter and buy a bunch of headphones I guess..... man, this is some goods sh1t... I'm hungry.
Chinese workers confused "presence" with being regularly at their work position ... By the way "TONE" is really better than "PRESENCE"
I didn't know Cort made amps
They have for a long time!
Looks like it was inspired by the Laney Lionheart
Why do i feel like this was the opening act at “an evening at the improv “ ?
The guitar is a bit LTDish lookwise.
Hat die Thomann-Security Dich nach den Plastik-Müll-Eskapaden raustragen müssen? 😁
Marshall & fender cannot make tube amps for that kind of money and pay good wages and other costs.. how long will this last?
only if USA made, if China made, everyone can afford it, it's a question of greed.
@@mihaiad86 it costs more to make things in the US. I would still question the quality of those components. I doubt it would be worth repairing ..
Where do you think fender and marshall get their components from?!
@@PaulCooksStuff a good many will be Chinese
But this is how capitalism works. You have a handful companies that innovate, and then you have a shit-ton of companies that clone and copy at cut-rate prices.
You're _supposed_ to put the 'paid presentation' statement at the START of the video.
Basic standard practice.
it usually says "sponsored by" really clearly above the logo... this time I forgot it, but I also usually say that I am paid... that much is pretty clear now. and I am saying that I am IN THE THOMANN videos studio... seems to be clear even though this time I forgot the sponsored tag in the editing.
They couldn't afford "the smile", though...
So when you're at home, do you play a naked amp, or do you either push it from the front or the effects loop?
_Surely_ you don't go for the worst possible sounds, why on aarth would you have a studio full of pedals and add-ons otherwise?
actually, when I am recording I go for the naked amp 90% of the time.
This is why I have a bunch of amps that do different things. If I want more gain I go to an amp that does that. I sometimes experiment and go for a more unusual effect and then I obviously use pedals, but for the "meat and potatoes" sounds, I use plain amps.
Also... I clearly didn't make this video at home and had limited time and resources to add pedals etc. This is why I said I only have limited time to make this "quick" video.
I feel cheated. You say you got 20 min for a video, but we only get 11:17! Seriously, where is the rest? What are you all hiding? Someone needs to investigate!! 🤪
Weirdly sounds like a laney, nothing wrong with that
When is Harley Benton going to make a 5150/6505/Rectifier clone? Because I refuse to buy low gain trash at any price whatsoever.
Good point. My guess is that they're doing that pedal platform amp thing. Those are popular. I prefer those too personally.
Aww that mooo likes Nudel!
Convinced this is a Laney circuit.
No djent😢
Hoe did they do? Well, in fact, industrially building a tube amplifier is cheap. They often cost a lot in terms of market positioning, but the technology used is cheap and old
Bit overpriced for a HB, get a used Marshall
I got one , and it blew out in one day. Stay away.
If you could keep all your videos this short I'd actually watch you play stuff. No criticism man, you know, just an opinion on your playing.
I agree, even in this video I feel there is too much chatting. The regular 40min or + videos kicked me out of this channel
@@josearjona3728 No, reverse. Less playing, more chatting!
@@StudioChimielyou could just fast forward… but then what would you whine about? You sound like a jealous person who can’t play themselves, when you say stuff like this, just so you know.
@@mikeygoda
You do know who that is, right? 🤣
@@mikeygoda I'm an indeed even worse than Pauly. And I am a jealous person. And I fast forward when he plays, but that is giving me work that could be fixed in the edit.
They need a new logo. Looks cheesy to me.
A Harley Benton commercial. The usual shtik on sponsored "reviews" , skeptical at first, then morphs into an "outstanding" review with many product shots and mentions.
Phew... 450€ for a Harley Benton amp? Seems overpriced.
more ranting… please.
I love how you look like you give zero fucks... Hilarious!
it not meant to be hate, but if i see someone with Harley Benton gear, I could take him/her serious.
Ok cya sniffa!
Pop over and I'll show you exactly what a HB guitar can do, then come back here and apologise.
wow! Too bad your ears don't work. You can hang out with Glen's friend, Nigel and smell tone woods.
@@grishyroy9271 What a 🤡!
@hankinho175 Harley Benton curling toes ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxftI2adE_iR-8qYLlzUQXaLbJihy9W4LY?si=omemev_q3OHOGRea
You can't leave the overdrive volume low ffs! Stop being a softie and crank it!
A review? I thought all you did was rant in beautiful clothing.
Baldie approves a Thomann product? I didn't see that coming...
yeah, weird... and so weird that coincidentally it is good as well... SO WEIRD