CS2: Should You Switch to Native Resolution (16:9)?

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  • Опубликовано: 15 мар 2024
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    4:3 has been one of the most popular video settings across the Counter-Strike franchise. Recently, however, some pros like frozen, Twistzz, and skullz have been switching back to 16:9, or native resolutions, despite having played on stretched res for years. Today, we'll be diving into some of the potential reasons why these pros have switched, and why you might want to as well.
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  • @Micha-Hil
    @Micha-Hil 3 месяца назад +450

    I use native resolution because I paid for the whole monitor, I'm gonna use the whole monitor

    • @ottabieN
      @ottabieN 3 месяца назад +84

      You still use your whole monitor with 4:3?

    • @kivori3438
      @kivori3438 3 месяца назад +24

      People stretch 4:3

    • @hqdwoahfouaehuoawfasgsrhsrdedb
      @hqdwoahfouaehuoawfasgsrhsrdedb 3 месяца назад +25

      I use black bars because lower fov helps with your focus (nah I just use black so I can say "I use black bars")

    • @toizuuu4809
      @toizuuu4809 3 месяца назад +3

      🤓

    • @juuso4148
      @juuso4148 3 месяца назад

      Quite low iq take. The people using 4:3 are using the whole monitor aswell. But people with lower iq can't understand such a complex things like different resolutions. 😎

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  • @wernersgaminglounge5235
    @wernersgaminglounge5235 3 месяца назад +33

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    • @tannerschweng7956
      @tannerschweng7956 3 месяца назад +2

      call of duty zombies also has the best small content creators

    • @nc33228
      @nc33228 2 месяца назад

      lol just you the game is shit along with all the pathetic creators milking the more minuscule aspects on the game

  • @Amzyy
    @Amzyy 3 месяца назад +57

    For some reason idk if it’s the increased fov or what but native 16:9 just feels smoother than stretched 4:3 on CS2. Took like a few days to get used to the res and I’m loving it especially for pistols and rifles however AWPing is definitely better on 4:3

    • @mindofanintrovert2046
      @mindofanintrovert2046 3 месяца назад +3

      oddly enough it's the opposite for me. idk why, it just feels a tad bit input laggy

    • @ViperTesla
      @ViperTesla 3 месяца назад +3

      This is why i think 16:10 is a good in-between for the benefits of both 16:9 and 4:3, but is generally slept on

    • @Nekigora
      @Nekigora 3 месяца назад +1

      it's the exact opposite for me, I liked playing 16:9 on go from time to time cuz I liked how it felt but I played shit
      now in cs2 I even lowered my res from 1440x1080 to 1280x960 cuz it just feels better

    • @dinkin_flicka14
      @dinkin_flicka14 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@mindofanintrovert2046100% agree. Changed the resolution today and i feel exactly the opposite. 4:3 movement is so smooth it's almost like you're flying and my head shot % has increased but it's only been one day

    • @ykris6109
      @ykris6109 2 месяца назад

      @@mindofanintrovert2046 make sure you set the game on full screen and not borderless full screen, borderless gives me input lag when i set it on

  • @ClayW
    @ClayW 3 месяца назад +14

    I played streatched since 2016 but switched to Blackbars in Nov 2023. I realized that a weak point in my game was my ability to track moving targets so it didn't make sense for me to play a resolution that makes it more difficult. In the spirit of experimentation, I tried blackbars after years of thinking it was just for older players who played on 4:3 monitors. But I realized that I like intentionally cutting off my periferal vision as it makes it easier for me to focus on what I'm actaully point my crosshair at. I know its stragne to intentionally give up the advantage of seeing more, but I win more duels when I'm playing on settings that make me feel comfortable because that's what's most important.

    • @vanwishon
      @vanwishon 3 месяца назад +1

      black bars gang 😎

  • @zachbaldwin2925
    @zachbaldwin2925 3 месяца назад +13

    I've definitely struggled playing stretched and close to monitor after the more wide swing play style being popularized around cs2's release.

    • @WaTzu
      @WaTzu  3 месяца назад +4

      the wideswing buff is def something i shouldve mentioned in the video

    • @zachbaldwin2925
      @zachbaldwin2925 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@WaTzu almost perfect video then :)

  • @ravidesai1251
    @ravidesai1251 2 месяца назад +5

    I hit global elite on 4:3 with m_yaw changed to 0.0165. (600 hours) I hit faceit 10 on native (900-1000hours, 160 faceit games) and then I hit what felt like my peak using 4:3 stretched normal m_yaw. It’s all just a fat load of preference. All in the last year as I picked up the game in 2023.

  • @speedysteve2833
    @speedysteve2833 3 месяца назад +5

    7:29 R6 FOV is measured vertically; the horizontal FOV is about 121 when you move the slider to 90.

    • @WaTzu
      @WaTzu  3 месяца назад +4

      oh shit, didnt know that

    • @TheRealSwol
      @TheRealSwol 2 месяца назад

      You sure? When I play on 90 fov and sit in a 90 degree corner I can’t see walls if I put the angle right

  • @cstinybaby
    @cstinybaby 3 месяца назад +6

    i don't know if i can do it..... as much as i'd like to "experiment" with native, i don't want to lose any consistency by changing things up. 4:3 for life

  • @lirionbelmont
    @lirionbelmont 3 месяца назад +1

    I switched recently to native aswell, the game looks better and you have a wider field of view, heads might be a bit smaller but they move slower horizontaly

  • @TheSixteen60
    @TheSixteen60 3 месяца назад +2

    I used to play on a 4:3 resolution when I played TF2 because my PC back then couldn't handle the game. Although the game would end up freezing at times with no way to open task manager or anything else to close it. So I had to put it on sleep mode, only for the resolution to carry over into Windows unless I restarted the PC. Let that be a warning to be careful with changing your resolution.

  • @KNDCHV
    @KNDCHV 3 месяца назад +3

    The majority of my playtime in GO was on stretched. It was butter smooth and made the game more responsive. However, I switched 2 or maybe 3 years ago to Full HD. Never went back to stretched. As you said - people are supposedly peeking slowly, I have enhanced fov with the slighg disadvantage that people are "skinnier". Let's add the fact that for some reason CS 2 looks absolutely horrendous in lower resolutions or settings than CS:GO did for some reason.

  • @doctorcocktor3482
    @doctorcocktor3482 3 месяца назад +36

    Ropz is the GOAT of native resolution. BTW watching these videos on break really helps kill the time! Keep it up!

    • @user-tw8gb9ei7q
      @user-tw8gb9ei7q 3 месяца назад

      Shroud too.

    • @srensen3081
      @srensen3081 3 месяца назад +5

      @@user-tw8gb9ei7q shroud and ropz arent in the same conversation

    • @asr1el942
      @asr1el942 3 месяца назад

      @@user-tw8gb9ei7qshroud 🤡

    • @greeze4685
      @greeze4685 3 месяца назад +5

      @@user-tw8gb9ei7q shroud is a bot compared to ropz

    • @TheRoyalPrinceCharming
      @TheRoyalPrinceCharming 3 месяца назад

      Shroud*

  • @PC_Ringo
    @PC_Ringo 3 месяца назад +3

    I feel like mouse input changes in cs2 and how inputs respond (i.e. in csgo mouse inputs qere tick based) also makes 16:9 more enjoyable for some reason... Mouse just felt better in csgo using stretched.

  • @familyfriendlynick3523
    @familyfriendlynick3523 3 месяца назад +5

    your videos are really nice ima fan

  • @ARIANARCHIST
    @ARIANARCHIST 3 месяца назад +21

    I feel like obsessing over cm/360 is a bit silly
    for years and years I went by the mentality of "never change your sens you'll ruin your muscle memory" while using 3.1 @ 400 in CS until one day I went through a slump, lowered my sens by half and fragged out of my mind. Ever since I've been going lower and lower and realizing that I can adapt to a different sens in a day or two pretty easily
    Anyways, if you want like the idea of "zoomed in" res but can't stand 4:3 streched maybe try 16:10 streched with the 1728x1080p custom res, I've been loving it in cs2

    • @0xUnkn0wN
      @0xUnkn0wN 3 месяца назад +10

      Thats because muscle memory for aiming is a myth

    • @lad4830
      @lad4830 3 месяца назад +2

      @@0xUnkn0wN It's not. I can precisely hit 180 flick with awp blindfolded. I did test it years ago fyi. If you enter a certain angle thousands of times you will eventually learn to flick all the off angles around the angle you are entering.

    • @bradpittman3821
      @bradpittman3821 3 месяца назад +4

      @@lad4830muscle memory isn’t the myth but it’s massively overstated in its importance for aim. Like in your example, that skill only gets a kill if you a guy is standing directly behind you before flicking. It’s definitely a part of good aim but people massively overstate it’s importance.

    • @tObito687
      @tObito687 2 месяца назад +1

      some of the best advice ive heard is that aim is not muscle memory, its a skill. yes you can train yourself to do the same precise flick but when youre in game and have to react to various different peeks and angles, it becomes much more of a skill thing than a muscle memory thing.

    • @lad4830
      @lad4830 2 месяца назад

      @@tObito687 But if you keep same sens and same res you will learn exactly how much you need to move your mouse in order to hit something that's certain distance from cross. Imagine awp holding left side of top mid boxes from window and someone runs up from left. If you go into offline with friend and practise that for few hours you will always land it, because you know exactly how much you need to move and that is muscle memory. Hitting runboost mid air is different conversation, because you don't encounter that as often and that gets us to off angles. You use muscle memory to preaim most common angle in that area + you need to have a good aim to flick all the off angles around it. So muscle memory is important as it sets the baseline you can build the rest upon.
      I have a video of my recent ace, check the second kill on short. I preaim the most commonly held off angle and flick from it slightly to the right where enemy is
      streamable.com/e1ezea

  • @valorantfaded
    @valorantfaded 3 месяца назад +6

    my biggest issue with native right now is that my pc isn’t the most optimized, it runs cs2 at like 180 fps on native, and when smokes go up, when mollies initially spread, and especially when nades blow up smokes, i drop to roughly 40 fps even with almost all the lowest graphic settings. on stretch res i sit at around 400 fps and only drop maybe 20 frames down to around 375-380 when all the util shit happens

    • @WaTzu
      @WaTzu  3 месяца назад +10

      yeah hopefully valve eventually optimizes the game properly, i would never trade cs2's smokes for csgos but god would i love to have more than 200 fps sometimes

  • @413fps
    @413fps 3 месяца назад

    I was blackbars player at first then switched to stretched bc most pros played that. In 2021 I switched to 16:9 1472x828 to help me track wide peekers. At some point after playing some months of valorant, went back to csgo and needed to switch to native bc I got used to the sharpness of 1080p while playing valo. At cs2 I switch between native, blackbars 1728x1080 or 1440x1080 blackbars. Always 1080p vertical res to maintain a sharp image and always blackbars to get correct horizontal velocity.

  • @evandossett3897
    @evandossett3897 3 месяца назад +1

    16:10 is the goated resolution; gives you both a good amount of stretch while allowing for a good amount of visibility (in terms of FOV and quality). Also (as an awper), allows for precision and removes that horizontal velocity. But hey, I do like that you mention at the end of the video that it is really more-so preference at the end of the day lol.
    I will say, anyone who obsesses over getting the exact settings in every game or trying to keep the same crosshair/sensitivity for years are insane and is proven to be a non-factor in keeping skill or obtaining skill over different games or time. Changing any of these settings (as long as it isn't to an obvious disadvantage, like 1x1 resolution) will very rarely make you better or worse. This will give you a slight improvement sometimes, which at a high level (like the pro scene) can matter. Personally, I have a base sens that I start each day on, and if it feels slow or fast I will adjust it accordingly. That base has kind of landed around 1000 edpi, with some days going down to 800. People will complain that this messes up your muscle memory but throw around the term incorrectly. There is plenty of good research available so Ill give a base TLDR: your muscle memory when playing video games is built in a way that your brain can adjust between different games/sensitivity/resolutions and still be able to hit flicks and shots that most would say is a result of having good "muscle memory". There is a reason why when most players switch between games, they will generally be better than just a regular casual gamer starting out. This is why CS players switching to Valorant were able to perform as well as they did, or also why people like Shroud are able to switch between games and still be amazing at them when never even having played them prior.

    • @srensen3081
      @srensen3081 3 месяца назад +1

      1:1 res is the goat

  • @woozy1885
    @woozy1885 3 месяца назад +1

    i switched to 4:3 recently and getting used to it it’s so hard to go back to 16:9

  • @richardjung9562
    @richardjung9562 3 месяца назад +2

    i used to only play 16:9 and have alway hated 4:3 because it looks kinda off and u have like 15° less fov which is a huge disadvantage for everyone. now i tried 16:10 and kinda feels and looks nice :D i dont know what it is about it but it kinda fits this game in my opinion. but non of that bullshit, that u can aim better for heads is true. if ur eyes are capapble of spotting small heads, then its alright. even if the enmies are bigger, they also move faster across the screen, in the same proportion. so theres no catch in this topic. its kinda stupid not to play in native, because of the sharpness but it feels nice:D huge tip for clearest non native res. use the tool CRU to make a new res for your monitor.
    for example i play on 1440p and the highest 16:10 res available was 1900x 1000 something.
    to let one axis be native i created 2304x1440 and it looks the clearest 16:10 for 1440p.
    16 divided by 10 is 1.6.
    1.6 times 1440 is 2304.
    the clearest 16:10 ratio for 1440p
    4 divided by 3 is 1.33
    1.33 times 1080p is around 1436
    so 1436/1437 x 1080 clearest 1080p 4x3 res

  • @Kraafft
    @Kraafft 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video

  • @Tritone_b5
    @Tritone_b5 3 месяца назад +3

    I tried going back to 16:9 but failed. I actually don't find that fast player movement and smaller FOV greatly affects my games. I generally hold angles "wider" than how it should feel and IMO lurks in pugs are generally a non-factor at my level.
    With all that said, I would say to anyone getting into the game get used to 16:9 first. It's not the res that get you the win.

  • @ggsnipes
    @ggsnipes 3 месяца назад

    6:34 nah bruh not the asanagi mousepad
    never really kept the same cm/360 between games, but always made sure it felt comfortable for the game itself so it's easy to quickly adapt to

  • @christyguy59
    @christyguy59 3 месяца назад

    I've tried to play CS stretched and every other game native, but it made me feel nauseous switching between such different FOVs for some reason. Not totally sure why. It was like looking through warped glasses, which eventually made me feel sick. Doesn't seem to matter in casual games, but in Valorant I just couldn't get used to native without feeling dizzy so now I don't play it much anymore. Weird but yea

  • @O6i
    @O6i 28 дней назад

    The wider you make the models the more mouse movement you need to make for recoil control and scanning

  • @Vein-NDC
    @Vein-NDC 3 месяца назад

    i played my whole life on 4:3 stretched and i switched on 16:10 couple days ago and i really enojy it and i see how i improved

  • @drunkenn00b
    @drunkenn00b 3 месяца назад +1

    I get a headache, when playing streched :( not bc of the stretch, bus blurryness of the picture. So 1440x1080 is possible... but not for a long time. My eyes are always trying to "correct" the blurryness, that comes with stretch

  • @KenjiBiH
    @KenjiBiH 21 день назад

    i used to run 4:3 but i cant do that anymore it feels hella weird after playing on native res after i took a 1.5 year break of cs

  • @ShidNoh
    @ShidNoh 3 месяца назад +1

    for me since cs2 is more gpu heavy and my pc is cpu bound (lowering res doesn't give me performance boost because the bottleneck is the cpu and not the gpu), 4:3 is not giving me the fps boost i was looking for in the first place, i tried 16:9 and the fps and overall smoothness of the game felt the same, even putting textures on high made no difference so yeah, that's what made me switch back to 16:9 for now, but i like changing from time to time so i think someday ill go back to 4:3 for some reason i now dont know

    • @WaTzu
      @WaTzu  3 месяца назад +2

      believe me, that 4:3 pull is crazy, i still switch every now and then

  • @madvillain8618
    @madvillain8618 3 месяца назад

    Ive always used native as my go to, tried stretch here and there but always thought it was a gimmick that pros used because they were stubborn.

  • @goneski
    @goneski 3 месяца назад

    there was actually a time pre covid where dev1ce, blameF, zywoo, twistzz, and of course ropz were all on 16:9

    • @TheSibeee
      @TheSibeee 3 месяца назад

      Twistzz used 16:9 when cs2 was released but eventually went back to 4:3, probably he thought that his performance was off with native

    • @goneski
      @goneski 3 месяца назад

      @@TheSibeee he used it for like 6 months on liquid too back on csgo

  • @TheShkar
    @TheShkar 3 месяца назад

    I used both 4:3 and 16:9 in CSGO.
    But when CS2 came out, I noticed that when I was using 4:3 - the game would just randomly crash in the middle of MM. Worked perfectly fine with 16:9, so I switched and got used to it :)

    • @syno6412
      @syno6412 3 месяца назад

      Same, I'm using stretched 4:3, and it routinely freezes my entire computer forcing me to reboot, it's horrible. Hasn't happened once using 16:9.

    • @lad4830
      @lad4830 3 месяца назад

      That's hardware issue. CS2 made a lot of csgo players go inactive or quit and we got a lot of newcomers who don't know our ways. But it's still fair to say that at least 70% are using 4:3 stretched. (It was 90% on csgo if I remember correctly) Point is. If it was a game issue, we would all have it. So that means either your game files are corrupt (do "verify intergrity of game files") or there is an issue with your computer settings.

    • @syno6412
      @syno6412 3 месяца назад

      @lad4830 No that is incorrect, it can be a game stability issue on a certain combination of hardware, it doesn't necessarily indicate anything is wrong with the computer itself. That is still the games fault, this issue only began after updating to CS2.

  • @Hardware1906
    @Hardware1906 3 месяца назад

    i used to play csgo at 3:4 stretched and now i'm playing cs2 at 1:1 stretched (yeah 😥)
    in my opinion, you should play based on how pc performs and which resolution you like

  • @reacts
    @reacts 3 месяца назад +3

    I had been playing 16:9 for years (2015 or so) and switched about two months before cs2 came out and it’s greatly improved my aim and ability to spot enemies/reaction time. I also have eye issues so idk

    • @frumpyglint
      @frumpyglint 3 месяца назад +1

      Visibility is a real issue, especially when the fov is on the high end compared to other fps games in my experience. Playing on native just feels much smoother to me. Its a trade off you make, you can get used to it. Depends on your monitor a ton as well, pixel density and fuzziness, motion blurring etc. Don't help the already small models and details at some ranges.

    • @lad4830
      @lad4830 3 месяца назад +1

      @@frumpyglint As you get better in the game you will understand that you don't really need to see much and that extra vision is worth trading for wider models. You will learn the angles and how to interact with them to see everything you need even on smaller res. There is a reason for 99% of lvl10 players using stretched 4:3 1280x960 / 1280x1024. Also If you want to really get into CS. You should get minimum 144hz, ideally 240hz, 24"-27"with corresponding hardware of course. Can't run game on 240hz when you have 150 fps. decent hardware is massive advantage. It's not moba or an rts. It's fps and you need all the fps and all the hertzes :D Feel free to ask me anything regarding cs. As they say...I've been around the block.

  • @tObito687
    @tObito687 2 месяца назад

    i noticed a lot of players that used black bars in GO switched to 16:9. namely Frozen, Ax1le (went back to BB), and sh1ro (went to 4:3 stretched). i think its because black bars (especially 1024x768, which is what frozen and sh1ro played on) looks really blurry in cs2. i never had problems seeing enemies on 1024x768 BB in GO but in CS2 i also had to switch to 1280x960 stretched just to be able to see. something about better graphics makes lower res look even worse than before. not unplayable tho. i am 20 and haven't played for years and years so i dont think its my eyes that are the issue

  • @HieuNguyen-rh1th
    @HieuNguyen-rh1th 2 месяца назад

    At the end of the day, choose what make u feel comfortable
    I have high sens with safe and slow play style, I play 16:9 and get level 10 faceit

  • @ZackLee
    @ZackLee 3 месяца назад

    I only played on 4:3 because im csgo, it honestly made me preform better, something with how hitreg worked, made hitting things easier
    Now that ive tested plenty of times on cs2, 16:9 , 16:10 no longer has hit rate issued like it did in csgo and so ive switched back
    (Im 16k in prem)

    • @aakram185
      @aakram185 3 месяца назад

      What res you play

    • @ZackLee
      @ZackLee 3 месяца назад

      I used to play 4:3 but now i play 16:9
      1600 : 900
      I only do that resolution for better fps, otherwise id go to 1080p
      Also hit reg seems to be more consistent at lower resolutions

  • @TheOneAndOnlySame
    @TheOneAndOnlySame 2 месяца назад

    Did I just went for a perfectly fine 16/9 1440p to a stretched 4/3 1440*1080

  • @ExplodingImplosion
    @ExplodingImplosion 3 месяца назад +6

    Imma keep it real with u, you can get bigger models by getting closer to the monitor (I used that strat to win at Wii sports resort archery yesterday)

  • @Bllksem
    @Bllksem 3 месяца назад

    I hate stretch res. It looks terrible and I never like lowering my fov in any game. Also I feel like having a higher res/monitor size is underrated. If you have a bigger monitor you can sit a normal distance away and models still seem bigger. Sure it is generally recommended to have a higher resolution with bigger monitors for pixel density, and this will lower your framerate. But tbh if you’re getting like 500fps and you go down to 300 I don’t really see the problem, the extra clarity and size is worth it imo. It really does help at range and on tight angles

  • @austinfu2102
    @austinfu2102 2 месяца назад

    started with 16:9 but moved to stretch 4:3 now. It just feels easier.

  • @SupGarry
    @SupGarry 2 месяца назад

    Had to go back to 4:3 after switching to native during cs2 beta be cause i have 240hz monitor and my game doesnt handle that on native cs2 anymore 😅 had no issue on csgo

  • @silv00
    @silv00 3 месяца назад

    I have been using 16/9 my whole life as playing csgo for a first time cause it is comfortable but people is all different

  • @louiecs2
    @louiecs2 3 месяца назад

    sick video

  • @bradysanchez-baer1923
    @bradysanchez-baer1923 3 месяца назад +1

    Have used 16:9 since the beginning when I played source. Glad to see people making the jump ;)

  • @thegamereliterest9550
    @thegamereliterest9550 3 месяца назад +1

    21:9 black bars ftw

  • @AlanStryman
    @AlanStryman 3 месяца назад

    so many time my friend failed to see a player because 4:3 is stunningly high

  • @BohmanderTCG
    @BohmanderTCG Месяц назад +1

    played years on 4:3 cuz of listening to pros... switched to 16:9 on cs2 and my aim is crispy can onetap now... 4:3 felt too fast... also peekers advantage on CS2 is GG with 4:3 it feels like ferrari peek every time. 16:9 best in cs2 enemy feels slower

  • @rQuilln
    @rQuilln 3 месяца назад

    what if using an ultrawide monitor (21:9) then stretch it to 4:3 equivalent ratio (7:4). It combines both wider playermodel like 4:3 and the wider fov like 16:9

    • @masrock10
      @masrock10 3 месяца назад

      That's what I do, it's great! 2560x1440 stretched to 3440.

    • @lad4830
      @lad4830 3 месяца назад

      ultrawide monitors aren't the best choice for cs. Go for 24-27" 16:9 1920x1080 native and stretch out 1280x960 4:3. Overall most used setup / setting. Nobody on higher levels plays uw monitors.

  • @xscintilla
    @xscintilla 3 месяца назад

    im used to play with 4 3 black bars because i used to play cs1.6 that way, also native feels distracting to me

  • @ruleset
    @ruleset 3 месяца назад

    if you are on 90 fov and you take a few steps back you now see what a player on 106 fov would see
    if you are on 106 fov and you take a few steps forward you now see what a player on 90 fov would see
    end of story, fov has no impact on your game, use what you feel like suits your preferred positioning on the map
    i use it cause it looks cool

  • @nickevershedmusic8927
    @nickevershedmusic8927 3 месяца назад

    I use Native 1920 in all games that i play and im fine with it

  • @lukes00
    @lukes00 3 месяца назад

    I like this video but i feel like you didnt talk about the pros of stretched, only the cons

  • @BeeAVillain
    @BeeAVillain 3 месяца назад

    my video recording software literally wont record cs if i use native. anyone know some good recording software that actually works with cs?

    • @WaTzu
      @WaTzu  3 месяца назад

      i personally use nvidia shadowplay and obs, but you have to activate settings in order to record stretched

  • @kyoyeou5899
    @kyoyeou5899 3 месяца назад

    I've only been running stretch rez for the last few months, because I wanted 144hz thats all, its quite nice and noy that ugly in 1440p (not ugly 960p)

  • @Zack-Strife
    @Zack-Strife 3 месяца назад

    Setup is a very important factor. Playing 16:9 on a 16 inch laptop screen sucks hard, yet on 24 inch it is very comfortable

  • @nx47
    @nx47 2 месяца назад

    Used 4:3 since 2015 in GO then switched to 16:9 in CS2. Not sure why but 4:3 is very blurry in CS2 even 1440x1080 ratio. Could be because of the extra detailing in the maps or different shading and lighting.
    Don’t know 🤷🏽‍♂️ could be cope lol

  • @enmanuel2868
    @enmanuel2868 2 месяца назад

    Played 4 years in 4:3 and now 16:19 1080p 240hz, 4:3 doesn’t feel and looks the same anymore

  • @AnonymousUser66649
    @AnonymousUser66649 3 месяца назад

    I want the game to run as smooth as possible, which is the only reason why i use 4:3. I have a 10600k and rtx 3070 and my cpu is the bottleneck. Cs2 is the only game i have problems with my cpu. I don't want to buy a new cpu either yet, as the current one still works perfectly for everything i do except cs2.

  • @BubbaDan99
    @BubbaDan99 3 месяца назад

    Could you post your .cfg? I want to see your 16:9 viewmodel settings!

    • @WaTzu
      @WaTzu  3 месяца назад

      just the default viewmodel settings for me

  • @TheSibeee
    @TheSibeee 3 месяца назад

    Actually, frozen always used black bars, which is not stretched so its pretty natural to go to native from that

  • @Portal2Player
    @Portal2Player 3 месяца назад

    I play a lot of tf2 and have started trying out cs, and everyone in tf2 uses the 16:9, so I just naturally use the 16:9
    Except b4nny but what does he know, it’s not like he’s the best tf2 player

  • @Evrgarden
    @Evrgarden Месяц назад

    I really should switch to native but holy, can’t hit a single deagle shot without stretched res

  • @jR0xas
    @jR0xas 3 месяца назад

    Native is better simply for the fact that you have extra fov. So many times where my team mates just don't see someone because of 4:3. I played for a decade on 4:3 before upgrading my PC and switching to native and never looked back. The game also looks a lot better.

  • @Hotlmao
    @Hotlmao 2 месяца назад

    I think its bc ppl seems to move faster in cs2 than go which is why some pros switched to native

    • @Rgasm
      @Rgasm 23 дня назад

      No. Pros only switch because they are getting older and can't process fast movements as good anymore

  • @nickevershedmusic8927
    @nickevershedmusic8927 3 месяца назад

    1:50 thats sims music right?

  • @srensen3081
    @srensen3081 3 месяца назад

    the actual reason to play stretched is not player models being bigger
    its obviously to make the skins appear bigger and therefore get more SKIN out of your SKINS

  • @realbeetlejuice
    @realbeetlejuice 2 месяца назад

    subbed

  • @DJHASDIMONDS
    @DJHASDIMONDS 3 месяца назад

    and here I am still playing 4:3 black bars

    • @vanwishon
      @vanwishon 3 месяца назад +1

      black bars gang 😎

  • @paragongaming9666
    @paragongaming9666 3 месяца назад +1

    you should try to figure out something that ive been struggling to understand for awhile now and that is why pros dont switch to 1440p/2k because even on my system which isnt quite top of the line albeit it is good i still get 450fps average on relatively high settings the visual clarity you gain from doing so is well worth it imo and ips panel ghosting rates/input delay/refresh rates etc are almost identical to tn panels and if youre a pro playing for an org you should have access to a stronger pc with better optimization than me so it just doesnt make a lot of sense especially if you are playing on 1280x960 as it just looks terrible you play 1920x1440 for the same stretch with MUCH higher fidelity idk let me know what you think

    • @WaTzu
      @WaTzu  3 месяца назад +5

      number one reason just has to do with familiarity. the pros too were once kids who just enjoyed the game and didnt have the most powerful pcs, so they just got good at 1280x960, and since they found so much success that they went pro, its hard to switch. it almost entirely based on the argument "if it aint broke, dont fix it"

    • @Charvix
      @Charvix 3 месяца назад

      @@WaTzuthat's clearly not the reason. Pros innovate and adapt. The real reason is that 2k monitors at high refresh rates aren't tournament standard yet and I don't see that changing anytime soon as such high visual clarity is just unnecessary compare to good motion clarity that most 1080p monitors can deliver with a reasonable price tag. The longest dueling distance in the game is A long on dust 2 which isn't even on the map pool, whereas cqbs are everywhere.

    • @paragongaming9666
      @paragongaming9666 3 месяца назад

      @@Charvix thats not true though ips panels have caught up in motion clarity i agree with the first part of your statement though

    • @Charvix
      @Charvix 3 месяца назад

      @@paragongaming9666sure, the same argument can be made with oled 360hz. But they cost a ton. the point is that 1080p 360hz tn panel has the most value right now for both tournament organizers and 99.9% of players. Yeah 500hz ips with ulmb exist rn and its amazing, 480hz oled releasing soon and looks stunning, even 540hz tn is available for purchase and offers crazy smoothness. But good ol 2566k gets the job done. You argument just sounds like "why bother using an ips when oled exist", and "why bother using a gpx when gpx2 exist". Its just not that big of an upgrade.

  • @wpgd5287
    @wpgd5287 3 месяца назад

    i actually prefer 16:9 but my fps are low even on 4:3 so i can't really change

  • @Prinz_Kasper
    @Prinz_Kasper 3 месяца назад +2

    ya'll are sleeping on 21:9 squashed fr fr

  • @samster978
    @samster978 3 месяца назад

    forest for sure , he has been playing great since 1.6

  • @crippys
    @crippys 2 месяца назад

    I use stretch only because I can get more fps, and headshotting becomes easier for some reason

  • @Lulzykek
    @Lulzykek 3 месяца назад

    Played 800x600 BB in 1.6 played 1024x768 BB in csgo and I'll continue to play 1024x768bb in cs2 c:

  • @NicoMahlerCG
    @NicoMahlerCG 3 месяца назад

    16:9 stretched on my 21:9 monitor >>>

  • @kammci5175
    @kammci5175 3 месяца назад +1

    I bet most people who read it can't run cs2 in full hd on high enough frame rate for it to make sense. That's the case for me, I have a 240hz monitor and in full hd I have less than 200fps, not worth it
    In my opinion standardisied dpi across games is not worth it. Think about it, for cs you want a low res that probably won't even let you do a full 180. Compere that to something like tf2 or battlefield or on the extreme quake where you are gonna be attacked from all angles so you will need that full 180 probably even a little more. Now you either have 2 different dpi, or you have to compromise your performance in one of the games

  • @kaparskii
    @kaparskii 2 месяца назад

    On stretched the models move faster and are therefore much harder to hit. Peekers advantage always has been a thing and playing on a stretched res will only make it worse, in online play that is. Yes, alot of pro's play and have played on stretched their whole career, but their settings are optimized for LAN PLAY, not ONLINE play. Ppl seem to forget this fact.

  • @viskitissi5014
    @viskitissi5014 3 месяца назад

    Thoughts on stretching 16:9 to an 34" ultrawide monitor?
    It honestly feels like best of both worlds

    • @sergiojimenez4595
      @sergiojimenez4595 3 месяца назад

      I do this and I like it that way

    • @WaTzu
      @WaTzu  3 месяца назад +4

      never tried personally so i cant really speak on it, nor do any pros play on 34". sounds like a great experience tho

    • @adamnejm
      @adamnejm 3 месяца назад

      I'm on 2560x1440 (16:9) stretched to 3440x1440 (21:9) and it's dope!

  • @Yeedman
    @Yeedman 3 месяца назад +1

    idno man, i just play with a wider res (2560x1200 instead of 2560x1440, my monitor's native)
    more fov more comfort, wish cs2 actually had an fov setting (why the fuck does it not have it like every other first person shooter these days??)

  • @captainzero119
    @captainzero119 3 месяца назад +3

    4:3 1440x1080 is best imo and built into cs2

    • @f1nnietra
      @f1nnietra 3 месяца назад +2

      same, i'm used to 4:3 because my pc wasn't good enough for a few years to play on higher res (i have new one now) and now in cs2 1440x1080 keeps the 4:3 feel and looks pretty good

  • @joshiemah
    @joshiemah 3 месяца назад

    for me, the worst thing bout 4:3 is the fuzzy ass crosshair u get, puts soo much strain on my eyes needing to focus on the "fuzz". When I try 16:9 it just feels wayyy less straining on my eyes

  • @shortcat
    @shortcat 3 месяца назад

    can you think of at least one advantage of stretched over sitting closer to black bars?

    • @lad4830
      @lad4830 3 месяца назад

      You are using full screen so everything is more spread out. Black bars have advantage when you have eyes too close or the monitor too big. I would use black bars if I had 27"+ but on my 24,5" I play 1280x960 stretched. Will never change that. It's perfect.

    • @shortcat
      @shortcat 3 месяца назад

      @@lad4830 you can't get any closer to the screen physically?

    • @lad4830
      @lad4830 3 месяца назад

      @@shortcat I could, but why would I? The distance and elevation I'm in from the monitor is perfect. I see everything I need to see.

    • @shortcat
      @shortcat 3 месяца назад

      @@lad4830 then this isn't an advantage

    • @lad4830
      @lad4830 3 месяца назад

      @@shortcat To each their own.

  • @iltam_sumra_rashupti
    @iltam_sumra_rashupti 3 месяца назад

    In cs go stretched, game just feel much better and smother. In cs 2 its just feel strange

  • @ph0en1xtl98
    @ph0en1xtl98 3 месяца назад

    if i use 1.2 sensitivity on 1280x960, would it be the same on 1920x1080?

    • @nielsthecoolone
      @nielsthecoolone 3 месяца назад

      Yes

    • @WaTzu
      @WaTzu  3 месяца назад

      same cm/360, different monitor distance sensitivity

  • @crimewavee
    @crimewavee 3 месяца назад

    well frozen played bb

  • @Taziod
    @Taziod 3 месяца назад

    I don't even play CS much but when I do it's gotta be stretched res cause it's more "swag"

  • @olkar20
    @olkar20 3 месяца назад

    i use my native 4k res cuz i got a 4090 laptop with a monitor that does the job, not complaining.

  • @dasfragezeichen2109
    @dasfragezeichen2109 3 месяца назад

    i play on 21:9 (native): D

  • @donjam33
    @donjam33 3 месяца назад

    pretty sure frozen played native a while back, like ropz chrisj woxic karrigan mousesports

  • @goldengamer8838
    @goldengamer8838 2 месяца назад

    16x10(2304x1440) is the perfect cs2 resolution

  • @zaneatat
    @zaneatat 3 месяца назад

    i feel like in cs2 im getting more headshots on native

  • @kartiksingh5348
    @kartiksingh5348 3 месяца назад

    Lol im here using, 4:3 black bars.

  • @kylepelley3793
    @kylepelley3793 3 месяца назад

    I have been saying this for years, they were acting like stretched rez is a sacred tradition lol

  • @drachenauge6975
    @drachenauge6975 3 месяца назад

    nah man im chilling on 1085 x 935

  • @Yacksman5583
    @Yacksman5583 3 месяца назад +1

    I’ve witnessed too much 4:3 blindness from friends to change over. I must see everything

    • @WaTzu
      @WaTzu  3 месяца назад +6

      honestly thats the number one reason why you should switch to 16:9, so that you can bully your friends for not seeing things

    • @Yacksman5583
      @Yacksman5583 3 месяца назад

      @@WaTzu so facts

  • @MingusDynastyy
    @MingusDynastyy 2 месяца назад

    I have a crt monitor

  • @iamperfect2311
    @iamperfect2311 Месяц назад

    İs native models smaller than blackbar models