I don't understand how this channel doesn't have the subscribers it deserves. Between videos like this, especially Down Dixie HWY, and the wonderful interviews like with Willie Cook. Thanks for the hard work that goes into the preservation, and especially putting together these videos!
Thankyou to the State of Georgia and these outstanding archaeologists. So relieving to see that the state and archaeologists can work together in such an agreeable set of protocols. Also, thankyou for your sensitivity to the natural environment and ecosystems in the area. Give me more of that!
Man, archeologists are cool as can be. I’ve worked on a few digs and honestly find them hard because they’re not just hunting for treasure, they are working their tails off. Detailing every single thing. It can seem boring in the moment but when it all comes together, and they can show you on a grid exactly where things happened and discern many cool theory’s like the gentlemen did at the end of this video, boy there is just nothing cooler than that. Incredible work guys and gals!
From your analogy of the dating of the site you were several time periods to late to find paleo culture artifacts. Quarry sites are often many miles from the living sites. Good presentation but now you have to redo it and get to the lower level of the paleo period. Then you will know if it was inhabited during paleo period. Of course you will not find the abundance of paleo material because the population was much smaller. Thanks for sharing.
In my area, The "LeCroix" spans 8,000 years and is as diagnostic of the entire Archaic period. The soapstone is very interesting, as is the "little cloud" of quartz debitage, Loved that detail.
"LeCroix " points are found in my area which is in the area of the former Grand Kankakee Marsh in Northwestern Indiana. I've found 20 or 30 in life besides 5 Clovis points close to a farm in LaPorte County where numerous Mammoth and Sabre Tooth skulls found.
Bullshyte! To control the information! The history of the American lands that WE know is nothing but a lie to fit a narrative! Native Americans stupid savages! The government STILL will not admit destroying entire cities here that rivaled anything Europe had to offer at the time. They destroyed or hauled away artifacts that could PROVE that the people here before we came along were THEIR EQUALS! Why? because they were afraid that the people would balk at the genocide of intelligent humans!
There has been proof of the bow being used 60000 years ago. Why do people still think they didnt use a bow here during any other period other than woodland?
The reason is because we were not there when it was happening and everything is based on radio carbon dating which is very broad. The only way to really know is if you had been there!
Hi, one of the authors here.. thank you for the compliment! To your question - while not discussed much in the video, hypothetical possibilities of pre-Clovis were definitely considered in the research design, as this site is not far from the Topper site. We took portions of the excavation block well down into hardpan layers, these had OSL age estimates as old as 42,000 years before present. This layer was culturally sterile (no artifacts). There was a disconformity between this deeper layer and the superimposed artifact-bearing layers which dated from the Mid-Holocene. This disconformity was likely caused by scouring erosion during the Early Holocene, which unfortunately would have eliminated the upper layers of any buried late Pleistocene surfaces. All that to say, due to preservation conditions, the area excavated did not preserve information, one way or the other, about Clovis or hypothetical pre-Clovis.
@@rmoss42 Thank You for the Reply, this is great news. I hope more Archaeologist understand the possibility, that older artifacts might be below the Clovis horizon. Thanks Again Paul
A friend of mine his grandfather had a farm with upside-down bowl shape hills he was going to remove. But he found human bone so he contacted the state archeological department. They were Mound Builder , the state excavated all the mounds ( 3) removed everything, to him he could remove the hills. He never got to see everything they removed this was 1970. There are 3 more they were never told of, here no one can dig for artifacts only surface hunt. Which I have done since I was 7 with my older brother,I am 68 right now.
@@alanbrooke3237 This happened on an unimaginable scale when whites first got here. Entire cities were razed, looted, burnt to the ground and buried so that the common man would never know that what is now the US had actual cities that rivaled the largest populations of any European city! The Natives across the entire US were devastated by the diseases of the English and French from the North and south and the Spanish from the west! The natives were coming down with small pox and other diseases that they'd never been exposed to and entire villages would die off except one or a few then those people would go to the next village and it would wipe that one out, the plagues spread across the US like a damned wildfire! Wiped the majority of the native populations right off the face of the earth and THAT is why the Europeans were finding villages full of empty homes or piles of bones... You'll NEVER hear it from the "educators" or historians though as it would cost them their careers!
I don't understand how this channel doesn't have the subscribers it deserves. Between videos like this, especially Down Dixie HWY, and the wonderful interviews like with Willie Cook. Thanks for the hard work that goes into the preservation, and especially putting together these videos!
Hear hear!!
Thankyou to the State of Georgia and these outstanding archaeologists. So relieving to see that the state and archaeologists can work together in such an agreeable set of protocols. Also, thankyou for your sensitivity to the natural environment and ecosystems in the area. Give me more of that!
GA, is a pretty cool state. I’ve had a fairly agreeable experience during dealings with the State government.
Wish I was 20 years younger,I would volunteer to help on these digs.
Man, archeologists are cool as can be. I’ve worked on a few digs and honestly find them hard because they’re not just hunting for treasure, they are working their tails off. Detailing every single thing. It can seem boring in the moment but when it all comes together, and they can show you on a grid exactly where things happened and discern many cool theory’s like the gentlemen did at the end of this video, boy there is just nothing cooler than that.
Incredible work guys and gals!
Shout out to Richard Moss and his team at Edwards-Pitman on this cool project!
Great video. Love it. Thanks for Sharing.
From your analogy of the dating of the site you were several time periods to late to find paleo culture artifacts. Quarry sites are often many miles from the living sites. Good presentation but now you have to redo it and get to the lower level of the paleo period. Then you will know if it was inhabited during paleo period. Of course you will not find the abundance of paleo material because the population was much smaller. Thanks for sharing.
In my area, The "LeCroix" spans 8,000 years and is as diagnostic of the entire Archaic period. The soapstone is very interesting, as is the "little cloud" of quartz debitage, Loved that detail.
"LeCroix " points are found in my area which is in the area of the former Grand Kankakee Marsh in Northwestern Indiana. I've found 20 or 30 in life besides 5 Clovis points close to a farm in LaPorte County where numerous Mammoth and Sabre Tooth skulls found.
Amen !!! For the benefit of us all !!!
Bullshyte! To control the information! The history of the American lands that WE know is nothing but a lie to fit a narrative! Native Americans stupid savages! The government STILL will not admit destroying entire cities here that rivaled anything Europe had to offer at the time. They destroyed or hauled away artifacts that could PROVE that the people here before we came along were THEIR EQUALS! Why? because they were afraid that the people would balk at the genocide of intelligent humans!
It's crazy to think how many sights were destroyed over the years before we started protecting these areas.
what a sweet site! would love it to be on my property
Fascinating.
There has been proof of the bow being used 60000 years ago. Why do people still think they didnt use a bow here during any other period other than woodland?
The reason is because we were not there when it was happening and everything is based on radio carbon dating which is very broad. The only way to really know is if you had been there!
@@davidperry5631 I agree. They only really guess as educatedly as they can
@@iwalkincircles2960 They use the appearance of small projectile points to indicate arrow use.
Great video, thank you for sharing and rescuing this site. Allways dig a little deeper, Upper Paleolithic? Thumbs up and saved, subscribed.
Hi, one of the authors here.. thank you for the compliment! To your question - while not discussed much in the video, hypothetical possibilities of pre-Clovis were definitely considered in the research design, as this site is not far from the Topper site. We took portions of the excavation block well down into hardpan layers, these had OSL age estimates as old as 42,000 years before present. This layer was culturally sterile (no artifacts). There was a disconformity between this deeper layer and the superimposed artifact-bearing layers which dated from the Mid-Holocene. This disconformity was likely caused by scouring erosion during the Early Holocene, which unfortunately would have eliminated the upper layers of any buried late Pleistocene surfaces. All that to say, due to preservation conditions, the area excavated did not preserve information, one way or the other, about Clovis or hypothetical pre-Clovis.
@@rmoss42 Thank You for the Reply, this is great news. I hope more Archaeologist understand the possibility, that older artifacts might be below the Clovis horizon. Thanks Again Paul
I'd be interested to know if before washing all of the artifacts, if there were any Immunological Analysis completed.
Theres sites like that all over burke.Too bad all you find is gonna be all boxed up and stored away.
A friend of mine his grandfather had a farm with upside-down bowl shape hills he was going to remove. But he found human bone so he contacted the state archeological department. They were Mound Builder , the state excavated all the mounds ( 3) removed everything, to him he could remove the hills. He never got to see everything they removed this was 1970.
There are 3 more they were never told of, here no one can dig for artifacts only surface hunt. Which I have done since I was 7 with my older brother,I am 68 right now.
@@alanbrooke3237 This happened on an unimaginable scale when whites first got here. Entire cities were razed, looted, burnt to the ground and buried so that the common man would never know that what is now the US had actual cities that rivaled the largest populations of any European city! The Natives across the entire US were devastated by the diseases of the English and French from the North and south and the Spanish from the west! The natives were coming down with small pox and other diseases that they'd never been exposed to and entire villages would die off except one or a few then those people would go to the next village and it would wipe that one out, the plagues spread across the US like a damned wildfire! Wiped the majority of the native populations right off the face of the earth and THAT is why the Europeans were finding villages full of empty homes or piles of bones... You'll NEVER hear it from the "educators" or historians though as it would cost them their careers!
That is one law I can appreciate