How Wellness Culture Creates Disordered Relationships With... Everything

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  • @KDYT31
    @KDYT31 11 месяцев назад +134

    I love TFD but what is with the Nutrafol marketing? The spiel given about the product even resonates with the topic of this video...some item promising overall wellness. Weird to see here

    • @MichellePeraino
      @MichellePeraino 11 месяцев назад +10

      Not only is Nutrafol is extremely overpriced but after I spent hundreds of dollars on Nutrafol for women my doctor informed me that it doesn’t work for women with PCOS and even exacerbates the issue due to some of their ingredients spiking excess androgens further. Excess androgens is one of the main reasons why women experience hair loss in the first place. Do better TFD.

    • @eggrat6
      @eggrat6 11 месяцев назад +6

      Right? Chelsea talked about the channel's critical views of the supplement industry just before playing an ad for supplements? Seems like a pretty contradictory message.

    • @espeon871
      @espeon871 6 месяцев назад

      @@eggrat6right, but she does need to pay her bills and i think we shld utilise what tfd has taught us to again, not buy into it. To finally use what we've learnt into use lol.

  • @nastialover180
    @nastialover180 11 месяцев назад +91

    Loll I thought the nutrafol ad was going to be a joke. No mention of the irony with that? 😂

  • @lunar686
    @lunar686 11 месяцев назад +23

    ‘Emotional eating’ isn’t exactly a clinical term. The reason for why “deprivation” can be perceived to activate ‘emotional eating’ has more to do with the emotional constructs behind it, not the absence of these constructs. Actually it is often one of the two most powerful emotional constructs that regulate behaviour: being shame or guilt. Whilst not exactly a clinical term, ‘emotional eating’ is still used as a shorthand for excessive consumption in response to an emotional state. It needs to be stated that restriction doesn’t always activate a negative emotional state, often the contrary is true, successfully executing tasks from an internal locus of control over daily habits can improve functioning, it is only when this control is excessive and causes significant harm is it considered ‘disordered’.

  • @lisak7380
    @lisak7380 11 месяцев назад +203

    I find it ironic that the channel debunks supplements and essential oils yet frequently advertises a hair growth supplement.

    • @kikiiza3379
      @kikiiza3379 11 месяцев назад

      Hair growth is important. Have you seen Fleabag? Beauty standards are important in the US fyi.

    • @eklectiktoni
      @eklectiktoni 11 месяцев назад

      Supplements that have gone through clinical trials and have scientific evidence to back them up are fine. It's the snake oil garbage supplements that are the problem.

    • @lisak7380
      @lisak7380 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@ekl2947
      She stated during this episode that they have a whole episode on their Too Good to Be True podcast debunking supplements and essential oils. I listened to part of it.

    • @scootergirl3662
      @scootergirl3662 11 месяцев назад +19

      So it’s being assumed here that supplements, essential oils, and hair growth are all ineffective, which is a false, or at least unproven equivalency.
      First of all, supplements are mixed bag, but the problem is they’re not regulated like regular medication so people think they’re always safe or always effective.
      Secondly, if you’re going to try to convince people of anything, then you need to post your own links to studies that show hair growth stuff as ineffective.
      You may very well be right, but you can’t call them out for their lack of research hypocrisy, and then cite none of your own

    • @caityturner8034
      @caityturner8034 11 месяцев назад +17

      the hair supplement is one of the only supplement dermatologists recommend for alopecia and hair loss

  • @meredithdudek2481
    @meredithdudek2481 11 месяцев назад +91

    As someone with a binge eating and emotional eating problem, I can confidently say that not all overeating is the result of restriction. And it's a very dangerous message to be spreading. People often forget about the addictive nature of food, particularly the modern ultra processed food, but we shouldn't. It causes a lot of health issues if it isn't consumed in moderation. Please don't listen to this guest when she says all restriction is bad. With our modern food environment, we have to be conscious of our eating to stay healthy.

    • @MeretC10
      @MeretC10 11 месяцев назад +6

      Exactly! I hate this Anti-Diet Culture trend, it is going to make the obesity epidemic even worse.

    • @arkhykatenka
      @arkhykatenka 11 месяцев назад

      There is no scientific evidence to food being "addictive"

    • @beyondthefilmfatale145
      @beyondthefilmfatale145 11 месяцев назад +11

      Thanks for this. What about the body positivity people who claim being morbidly obese is healthy via social media? Or all those binge eating videos or influencers eating junk food videos? It is much easier to maintain a healthy weight if you understand how many calories are in things and your own triggers. I don't keep chips, ice cream etc in my house because I will eat it. It is not good for me and it was literally designed to make me want more of it, disrupting my "intuitive eating".

    • @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL
      @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL 11 месяцев назад +3

      This 🎯 🎯

    • @caro1942
      @caro1942 10 месяцев назад +3

      I came here to say exactly this. It really seems like her perspective is skewed by drawing primarily from a pool of patients with restrictive eating disorders. I was someone who overate for my entire life and never dieted or restricted at all, and it was only by moving to high quality, nutritious foods that actually fill me up, and eating them in a restricted eating window (intermittent fasting) that I was able to gain control over my habits. My one meal a day is infinitely less disordered than my midnight mac n cheese habit used to be! I appreciate the shift away from diet culture, but she should really tune in to the greater population before making such generalized judgments

  • @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL
    @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL 11 месяцев назад +56

    Is any restriction when it comes to food “disordered” also is intuitive eating possible with the presence of hyper palliative foods that are manufactured to get you to consume more and more?

    • @clairbear1234
      @clairbear1234 11 месяцев назад +13

      I have the same questions and I feel like it’s a big oversight on the part of discussions like this

    • @d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n
      @d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n 11 месяцев назад +13

      I also want to know. I *have* to avoid a lot of foods because they physically will make me ill, due to severe lactose intolerance, and if I'm not vigilant about it, I immediately suffer. If I want to eat out with friends or share food with other people, my dietary needs have to come up, and every visit to a restaurant involves a lot of effort because I don't want to spend all night in the bathroom and then spend the week after in bed. As I've grown older and lost my ability to produce any lactase at all, the foods I can comfortably eat have reduced, and it has absolutely changed my relationship to food, often in distressing ways, but all the disordered eating and intuitive eating information I see ignores people who have actual food intolerances and allergies

    • @lunar686
      @lunar686 11 месяцев назад +4

      Lol no, not all restriction is disordered. At least in the psychological diagnostic context, for something to be classified a ‘disorder’ it has to reach a threshold of causing significant impairment in multiple domains of someone’s life.
      Intuitive eating works under two main conditions: firstly the majority of food/beverage intake isn’t heavily processed (so yes the sugar/salt/fat manufactured ratio items that activate excessive consumption would be included in heavily processed); secondly no cognitive/physical impairment that would affect consumption be present. It’s a lil bit hard to intuitively eat if the items consumed may not meet the definition of ‘food’ lol, if certain items cause negative responses, like allergies and gut microbiota, or if you have conditions that impair functions like the prefrontal cortex or alexithymia (although it can be useful if concurrently undergoing treatment)

    • @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL
      @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@lunar686 Thanks! Although I have seen some Intuitive Eating advocates say that things like chips, sodas, cookies, fast food etc. count and that no food should be off limits but that isn’t an opinion I share.
      Edit: I think when we eat we should consider how this will make us feel not just in the immediate but in the long term too.

    • @d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n
      @d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@lunar686 What I understand, from what you wrote is that intuitive eating is not actually possible for all people, then. That's important to know, but contradicts the message that this dietician seemed to be sending, and that's frustrating because it makes it seem like it's someone's fault if they can't figure out how to make intuitive eating work with their medical needs

  • @snowcrush
    @snowcrush 11 месяцев назад +75

    As an outsider it seems to me that some people who have had eating disorders project them onto the rest of us. If I want to change my diet or whatever else to reach my goals and don’t have an eating disorder there shouldn’t be anything wrong with that and not everybody who doesn’t eat intuitively is disordered, surely there is a middle ground.

    • @kw752
      @kw752 11 месяцев назад +7

      I completely agree!

    • @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL
      @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL 11 месяцев назад +10

      Thank you! I don’t know why we need to medicalize every aspect of our habits

    • @katiebatten5794
      @katiebatten5794 11 месяцев назад +6

      Right, like if I have a beer every night because I’m bored and it leads to weight gain, saying “wow I need to stop doing this so much” isn’t a response to deprivation. Or eating ice cream when you’re sad doesn’t necessarily mean you restricted earlier, it means you’re reacting to negative emotions by eating when another response would probably be healthier

    • @turtleanton6539
      @turtleanton6539 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@katiebatten5794yes indeed😅

    • @JauntyCrepe
      @JauntyCrepe 5 месяцев назад

      Yeah I agree 100%

  • @blackblackheartsss
    @blackblackheartsss 11 месяцев назад +49

    I do think emotional eating is tied to deprivation but it can also be due to having issues with emotional regulation and using food to numb emotions especially when there are no other healthy coping mechanisms in place.

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 11 месяцев назад +5

      Finally learnt that I had autistic traits at age 40....oh ...now I realize I sensory seek with food....oh plus the quetiapine tablets makes me have the appetite of an ogre. Lol! Yeah definitely looking for other functional, healthy, adaptive coping strategies/mechanisms. At least I'm a Millenial so I can go into my little dissociation bubble for a bit and pretend that the internet doesn't exist. Not too much but just about 10 hours a week so I can get some relief ( sensory time out)from the constant information and anxiety that social media creates. I also do about 20 hours of phone-free activities a week. That's way better than eating a whole chocolate cake...like before.

    • @spriddlez
      @spriddlez 11 месяцев назад

      Totally. I have spent the last few years reshaping how I see food - nourishing my body, not moralizing etc. The shame and guilt around eating is gone and I overeat less than before... but when I have a bad day I still turn to food to comfort myself. For me it's not one or the other but both.

  • @valerija.lalikova
    @valerija.lalikova 11 месяцев назад +13

    I do not agree with Christy regarding the restrictive eating. I do not ever restrict myself, but I still occasionally overeat. Does it mean I have an eating disorder? No. But it does mean that overeating doesn’t have to be caused by restricting.

  • @thatjillgirl
    @thatjillgirl 11 месяцев назад +17

    While I agree that it's not useful or helpful to get so obsessed with ethical consumption that you lose sight of all else, I don't think advocating for policy changes IN PLACE OF trying to make good personal choices is the way to go. I think this is very much a both/and situation. Yes, policy changes at the corporate level would probably have a bigger impact, and yes, the range of individual choices are often limited depending on what the larger system enables them to choose. I definitely think we should avoid shaming ourselves if we can't manage to be perfect (we will never be perfect). But still, I think it makes total sense to try to live within your values to the extent that it lies within your power to do so. I don't think we can absolve ourselves of contributing to harmful practices when we are able to choose otherwise, just because The Big Corporations are contributing in even worse ways.

  • @viktoriavadon2222
    @viktoriavadon2222 11 месяцев назад +55

    This was interesting and Christy has many good points, but I also think she generalizes too much. There's no magic bullet, one single approach will not heal everyone's relationship with food. And I find it dangerous to say "all your problems with food come from restriction, if you do not see it look harder". It can certainly be true for some people, especially folks with orthorexia, but for certain there will be others where it's not true and best case scenario, this just takes them to a dead end, worst case scenario, they gaslight themselves.

    • @eklectiktoni
      @eklectiktoni 11 месяцев назад +1

      Excellent comment! 👏🏾

    • @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL
      @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL 10 месяцев назад +4

      Seriously! Saying all your problems with food will be gone once you stop restricting is like telling a depressed to just be happy

  • @melissabellemills2562
    @melissabellemills2562 11 месяцев назад +19

    Red Pen Reviews gave Harrison's book a 33% on scientific accuracy. It's a review worth reading. I'm all for calling out BS. Including hers.

    • @architecturaldream1
      @architecturaldream1 11 месяцев назад +3

      Oooh interesting

    • @kate.cousteils
      @kate.cousteils 11 месяцев назад +13

      I love that you’re approaching this critically.
      However, neither of the people who reviews that book are dieticians - they are nutrition researchers. Additionally, the founder of Red Line Reviews, Guyenet, has was selling a weight loss course on his website. Saying that a book discouraging readers to pursue weight loss only serves in his financial best interest.
      However, I am also biased, as I found the anti-diet book, in combination with working with a registered dietitian, absolutely life changing.

    • @melissabellemills2562
      @melissabellemills2562 11 месяцев назад +4

      I recognize we live in a post-truth world. However, I can't help but feel a researcher pointing how claims in a book don't align with the currently available research sounds like fact-checking, not bias.
      "I love that you're approaching this critically." sounds patronizing af.

    • @CHSwildcats19
      @CHSwildcats19 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@melissabellemills2562 You are not being sensitive, it absolutely was patronizing. It's a "technique" ppl use to manipulate others: compliment them FIRST, get them on your side, then push your agenda. Honestly that commenter sounded like a paid shill.

    • @cristalleslie6311
      @cristalleslie6311 5 месяцев назад

      @@CHSwildcats19Actually she admitted she was bias unlike the other person who did not acknowledge anything she said except for the critical thinking part.

  • @gabbebelle
    @gabbebelle 10 месяцев назад +5

    Because of the sheer magnitude of the external factors we are forced to have disordered eating relationship in order to have NORMAL relaxed eating habits. Unless we do not consume any media of any kind. Except books 😊.

  • @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL
    @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL 11 месяцев назад +32

    Sincere question, if I restrict sweets because of my cavities, is that toxic diet culture and disordered eating too?

    • @goldengrace2833
      @goldengrace2833 11 месяцев назад +8

      No.

    • @BioBioLove
      @BioBioLove 11 месяцев назад +7

      You aren’t snarking are you? You can restrict sweets for any reason and that’s not an eating disorder. This world has gone nuts.

    • @MeretC10
      @MeretC10 11 месяцев назад +4

      Of course not, don’t believe all the messaging about eating online, so much of it is projection from people who have deeply flawed relationships with food and hate to see that others don’t

    • @lunar686
      @lunar686 11 месяцев назад +1

      Only if the reason is more of an excuse. Not that you can’t have multiple motivating reasons for any behaviour/behaviour change, but it has to meet a threshold of causing significant harm across multiple domains in your life to be considered a disorder. For example if you struggled to give up sugar, despite it causing significant harm in many areas of your life (such as preventable surgeries, financial struggles, time off work, stress within your relationships), then the addiction to sugar may be considered a disorder or a symptom of

    • @skipp10467
      @skipp10467 11 месяцев назад +1

      Why dont you just brush your teeth 2-3 times a day? Why do you need to restrict sweets for that?

  • @bonniee2700
    @bonniee2700 11 месяцев назад +10

    Too much fluff, word salad, buzz words this episode. Take a shot every time you hear “dovetail”

  • @whoscares
    @whoscares 7 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for being real and authentic.

  • @hollyclark4518
    @hollyclark4518 11 месяцев назад +11

    This type of content is not what I come to this channel for. Seems like TFD has been moving further and further from financial discussions; a major bummer for someone who really values and recommends this channel.

  • @SarahJo
    @SarahJo 11 месяцев назад +8

    A video about the problems of wellness culture...sponsored by a hair growth supplement. I usually love TFD, but way to kill your own credibility.

  • @moonbice
    @moonbice 11 месяцев назад +41

    I am only at the very start of this video, but I see a problem with this guest speaking about topics that she is not professionally competent to address. The definition of eating disorders is addressed by psychologists/psychiatrists. I'm sure she could collaborate with psychologists/psychiatrists as part of a team when treating individuals, but her credentials appear to be as a dietician which I don't believe gives her qualifications to address the psychological component of treatment. This is most obviously an issue when she talks about "sliding" into eating disorder. Mental disorders are defined as extreme relative to the general population, but they do have to be extreme to qualify as a disorder. As a comparison, almost everyone has anxiety but the standards for diagnosis of an anxiety disorder are not met by everyone.
    Additionally, I have relatives with (Type I and II) diabetes. They do have to put thought into their diet in order to care for themselves. They can get into good habits so that less thought goes into each meal, but "intuitive eating" is not totally possible because of some of the strong cravings that can be associated with these illnesses. The guest talks about how these people should be able to be more relaxed with food, but that moment reminded me of speaking about how poor people should just stop having a scarcity mindset. It's not realistic. Overall, I am unimpressed with this guest and disappointed she was hosted.
    EDIT: This is disappointing enough that I am questioning the quality of content on this channel as a whole, even when I generally consume it for entertainment. I think it's a reminder to look for more reputable sources for information.

    • @raeahthewriter8082
      @raeahthewriter8082 11 месяцев назад +7

      This is such a long response for someone who is only at the "start" of the video.

    • @kw752
      @kw752 11 месяцев назад +20

      I agree; I also can’t believe that they are criticizing “diet culture” and selling us hair supplements in the same video.

    • @Atmviola
      @Atmviola 11 месяцев назад +8

      I hear you, and to an extent, I agree. However, eating disorders can start from "healthy eating" and then quickly spiral into something more serious, which is what I believe Chelsea and Christy are saying. This happened to me in high school and I had to get professional help for it. What started as "eating more greens and less processed food" (which of course, is almost always a good thing) turned into extreme calorie restriction, intense anxiety over going to restaurants or cafes, and purging after eating "junk" food. It was all to keep my "healthy" body, which at the time I only equated to thinness.
      Also, there is a difference between an eating disorder and disordered eating. Disordered eating is when you have obsessive and uncontrollable thoughts around food that interfere with your daily life, which can then potentially lead into an eating disorder. That's the more "extreme" behavior you are referring to, stuff like anorexia, bullimia, purging, etc. Chelsea and Christy are discussing disordered eating, not necessarily eating disorders.
      www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/blog/eating-disorders-versus-disordered-eating

    • @d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n
      @d.d.d.a.a.a.n.n.n 11 месяцев назад

      @@Atmviola I can see what you're saying, but healthy eating is different from a medically necessary restrictive diet, and this dietician also sounded like she was dismissing the vigilance those diets can sometimes require. I would love to relax about food all the time, but I know when I'm not eating at home, I can't be that relaxed, because I have severe lactose intolerance and in my country, lactose is present in soooooo many foods to the point where people don't even think about it

    • @meredithdudek2481
      @meredithdudek2481 11 месяцев назад +7

      This whole episode was extremely disappointing. The guest made so many false claims and never addressed what a good, healthy diet is. Only that restriction is bad. But isn't her job as a dietician to give healthy dietary advice?

  • @mikelatenster9390
    @mikelatenster9390 11 месяцев назад +45

    I think this guest was a real miss. When Chelsea said she intermittent fasts, Christy said IF is unhealthy. But Chelsea said she's not hungry in the mornings and then Christy says you should eat anyway even if youre not hungry?? Even though all she advocates for is intuitive eating and not eating in the mornings when you're not hungry is intuitive eating...She doesn't seem to know what shes talking about

    • @robrobben6066
      @robrobben6066 11 месяцев назад +6

      That is actually not what she said

    • @mikelatenster9390
      @mikelatenster9390 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@robrobben6066 it is quite literally what she said. In fact, she said multiple times during the interview that sometimes you have to eat when you're not hungry.

    • @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL
      @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL 11 месяцев назад +4

      I’ve also seen intuitive eating advocates question others when they intuitively grab fruit or veggies but they rarely make a peep when ppl intuitively grab processed or snack foods

    • @skipp10467
      @skipp10467 11 месяцев назад +2

      I think the logic is, if you skip meals you might then overeat to make up for the skipped meal. I could be wrong. Havent finished the interview yet. Personally, If I'm not hungry for breakfast I just have yogurt and coffee.

    • @thatjillgirl
      @thatjillgirl 11 месяцев назад +14

      @@mikelatenster9390 No, she basically said if you're not feeling hungry but then you regularly experience negative outcomes related to not eating, you should consider eating something even though you don't feel hungry. She also mentioned if there is a medical reason that you have a suppressed appetite, you may need to get in the habit of eating even when you don't feel hungry because your hunger is basically a broken barometer at that point. I think she's reacting against the rigid timing rules you typically see associated with intermittent fasting, not the general idea of eating when you're hungry and not eating when you're not, which is what intuitive eating is in the first place.

  • @jasminew8442
    @jasminew8442 11 месяцев назад +6

    Watching this as I eat pizza and drink beer 😂

  • @sunflowervibes3041
    @sunflowervibes3041 11 месяцев назад +4

    I'm going to lightly disagree on the conscious consumer point that the guest made... I'm just about to graduate with a degree in sustainability and there is a lot of indicators that the government will not regulate strictly if they are afraid of constituent backlash. Supporting ethical or environmentally friendly products show which companies hold power with the people. The government is going to be more interested in making changes if they think it will keep them popular. Additionally, regulation doesn't do as much as economic solutions such as carbon trading.

  • @JauntyCrepe
    @JauntyCrepe 5 месяцев назад +1

    I would have liked a little more practical advice for over eating because, as someone who doesn’t restrict (and snacks quite often) I will eat until I’m sick if I’m upset. It’s not always because of restriction.

  • @clairbear1234
    @clairbear1234 11 месяцев назад +24

    I think many of us feel the need to vote with our dollar because we don’t see enough meaningful change and feel that people we vote for consistently fall short of making change.

    • @Rosie-xm7ry
      @Rosie-xm7ry 11 месяцев назад +7

      So true! What politicians openly care and talk about sustainable palm oil? None of them. So i will continue to vote with my dollar AND advocate for change

    • @toriseiko3126
      @toriseiko3126 11 месяцев назад +1

      Agreed, that point the guest made was kind of depressing to me

  • @idliketostay
    @idliketostay 11 месяцев назад +12

    i wonder has any dietitian entertained an idea of food from the same side we talk about our savanna/monkey brains.
    maybe we should think of restrictions towards fast-food and snacks not as restrictions and more of a dietary hygiene. the world is filled with first so much food in general and second so many trashy foods that were not accessible at the time our guts were developing.
    you see where i’m getting at?

    • @evas4455
      @evas4455 11 месяцев назад

      What, paleo?

  • @bee42Sad
    @bee42Sad 11 месяцев назад +28

    Anyone want to summarize the changes from the previous version that was posted?

  • @adamp6320
    @adamp6320 11 месяцев назад +25

    the thing about studies is...they may not apply to you, you kind of have to see what works for you. For some people who never were able to stick to a diet, a Keto One Meal a Day diet worked. Good for them if so. It's definitely not for everyone (see study results) but if it works for an individual then great.

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 11 месяцев назад +4

      Definitely do what works for you. I can only do low-calorie dieting with nutrient-dense food. So I can't cut out fat, sugar and carbs completely or fast. I do a part-time manual job and if I cut out things while on that job I will faint. What makes me feel good is when I have oats, yogurt, nut butter, soy milk, berries and stevia bowl before the job. This breaks so many diet trends rules but it's what works for me....and it's low calorie. That said I don't get normal hunger pangs.

  • @videosvideos1543
    @videosvideos1543 11 месяцев назад +21

    The dessert lasagna is a snow cone. Whats so bad about that? Not all desserts have to calorie heavy or full of cream and sugar. I'm disappointed and confused by Chelsea's outrage over a rebranded snow cone.

    • @lunar686
      @lunar686 11 месяцев назад

      Omg I miss snow cones 🍧.... lol don’t think I’d want mine ‘lasagna flavoured’, but each to their own lol

    • @toriseiko3126
      @toriseiko3126 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@lunar686it's not lasagna flavored, just similar to lasagna from the layers

    • @cristalleslie6311
      @cristalleslie6311 5 месяцев назад

      A nutritious dessert can be yogurt does not have to be flavored water. The way people defend diet culture saddens me.

  • @maam-yj8ph
    @maam-yj8ph 10 месяцев назад +2

    I have Celiac Disease so I am forced to have a restrictive diet. That said I would never advocate for restricted diets for the general public. I think people ultimately have to do what works for them though because medicine is still learning about the different functions of the GI tract and their relation to gut health. So "the science" is by no means an exact science. One man's eating disorder may be another man's life-saving regimen.

  • @engineeringbookisha
    @engineeringbookisha 11 месяцев назад +11

    I'm at 16:33 and I'm a little surprised by the comments but i do want to say that i appreciate this so far. I have overall had a really healthy relationship with food and my body. (I'm not a painting, I'm a person) but recently due to being around some weight obsessed people as well as recently getting married i believe i have been edging close to getting on track to disordered eating and I'm glad to be snapped out of it.

  • @vanillabeanlady
    @vanillabeanlady 11 месяцев назад +9

    Tbh I think finding a video about flavored crushed ice "very upsetting" is an overreaction. 70% of Americans are overweight and 40% are obese, myself included. People do need to be learning about calories and there's nothing wrong with wanting to slim down to look good in a bikini for the summer.

    • @strawberry_punch_art
      @strawberry_punch_art 11 месяцев назад +3

      y'all still don't have artificial sweeteners banned? The ice thing looks like pica

  • @Scarlite27
    @Scarlite27 11 месяцев назад +9

    This channel keeps trying to talk about disordered eating, and goes about it horribly every time. Please stop trying to talk about this subject because you get ED adjacent videos on your feeds(which you only get, because you keep engaging in the content).

  • @valeriehowden471
    @valeriehowden471 11 месяцев назад +27

    I worked with a doctor who wondered why individuals would turn to unproven alternatives. I responded - it's easy to sell hope.

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 11 месяцев назад +3

      Facts. I've been in and out of therapy for over 20 years. Nothing beats working your ass off psychologically but most people want an easy, quick fix....with everything. I like holistic wellness but I have no problems taking my butt off to Western medical doctors and my psychotherapist when my neurodivergent brain can't make sense of the world because they keep moving the goalposts.

  • @kw752
    @kw752 11 месяцев назад +22

    I’m a little disappointed by Chelsea’s over reaction to the “dessert lasagna.” She said that this TikTok was posted during summer when a lot of people aren’t feeling good about their body being “beach ready,” but your negative body image is not this influencer’s fault. You can’t be mad at other people for your poor self image (unless of course they attack you or a group you belong to personally). It’s not like this was one of those photoshopped or FaceTuned bikini photos…I just don’t think it was a proportional response.

    • @tf4606
      @tf4606 11 месяцев назад +10

      So you think the definition of dessert lasagna was accurate for that crap? People (women, esp) wouldn't have to come up with such disgusting "hacks" if it weren't for body image issues.

    • @WaitingForTheSubway
      @WaitingForTheSubway 11 месяцев назад +10

      I agree. I didn’t see the full TikTok, but it seems like she just posted a sweet treat that she makes? Does dessert always have to be calorie-heavy? She basically made shave ice, which is delicious🤷‍♀️

    • @kw752
      @kw752 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@tf4606 Some people really like chewing/crunching ice. (Not me personally, but a lot of people do.) it’s possible that she genuinely likes this. also, I don’t think that thinking of calories is necessarily indicative of a body image issue. I just think it’s a little bit of a leap in logic to say someone discussing calories in a item is body shaming or indicative of an unhealthy relationship with food.

  • @Juciwaters
    @Juciwaters 10 месяцев назад

    Huh I think also restriction binge cycle can happen with me when I’m low on money and basically have to stick to limited options 😢

  • @ib9911
    @ib9911 11 месяцев назад +2

    13:00 I think the question about "honing our BS meter" is really interesting, and can be applied to a lot of contexts even outside of toxic diet culture. The rhetoric that "this is helpful to somebody out there" is in theory, a possibility, but I find that it is also a one-dimensional response that intentionally leaves out the framing of these diet tips. Someone presenting a way to cut calories as part of a dietary plan provided by a professional for their health, is very different than someone showing how to cut calories. And it's not just the content of the single video - it's the context the any influencers' history/background and their overall messaging, and also the culture within this video resides. It's not just about dieting, it can be applied to any type of content - we have to use media literacy to really gauge the impact that this content has and which audiences it's targetting.

  • @nora-.-g
    @nora-.-g 11 месяцев назад +42

    It’s interesting how this topic truly strikes a nerve and engenders strong and sometimes defensive reactions from people. Eating, dieting, bodies and health are such intensely personal and culturally weighted topics.

    • @elizabethwillis885
      @elizabethwillis885 11 месяцев назад +7

      As women, we are bombarded by it our entire lives. Ask little girls what a diet is. They all know. It makes sense we are defensive. It’s engrained in us from the start and so much is tied to our weight. Our personality, our hard work, our abilities are tied to our weight thanks to where we live.

    • @nora-.-g
      @nora-.-g 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@elizabethwillis885 yes it is exhausting

  • @WaitingForTheSubway
    @WaitingForTheSubway 11 месяцев назад +21

    I bet the guest dietician doesn’t want to be on camera because she is underweight. Just a guess, but it’s VERY common for dietitians to have eating disorders that they don’t want to address.

    • @elizabethwillis885
      @elizabethwillis885 11 месяцев назад +21

      She has talked about her own disordered eating. And here’s the thing, most people with eating disorders are not so underweight that you would even notice. That’s a huge problem with eating disorder assumptions. That you can just tell someone has one by looking at them. It’s incredibly incorrect to assume that.

    • @Luumus
      @Luumus 11 месяцев назад +10

      @MH-ve5sz I think the state of her body should not contribute to how valid her points her or not. And to be clear I actually don't agree with a lot of her points because I do think they are a bit unsupported based on the latest meta-studies. However I do think it's rude of you to make assumptions on what kind of body she has and then make assumptions on how she's dealing with eating disorders she may or she may not have. All of this based off of the fact she didn't use a camera. There may be plenty of reasons for that, but those are none of our business.
      I think in 2023 we can judge people (and women specifically) on the strength of their opinions and expertise, and not on how their bodies may or may not be like.

  • @cappuccinoclouds8145
    @cappuccinoclouds8145 11 месяцев назад +15

    This comment section inappropriately unhinged. I don’t understand why so many people feel personally attacked and offended. I don’t know the guest from before, but she seems to come into the conversation which nothing but empathy and respect. Really enjoyed this podcast episode and will follow her channels!

    • @Luumus
      @Luumus 11 месяцев назад +2

      You can disagree with the guest, which I do in some ways because I think her opinions were poorly supported (see my comment if you are interested), whilst not feeling "personally attacked and offended". It's ok to respectfully disagree with someone, it does not mean you hate them or they hate you. Or that anyone is offended. There can be constructive discourse on the internet without anyone getting overly emotional about it, which does seem to be the case of several of the comments.

    • @crownprincesslaya2
      @crownprincesslaya2 11 месяцев назад

      Because our symbiotic gut bacteria go reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and grab for the metaphorical steering wheel lol

  • @arkhykatenka
    @arkhykatenka 11 месяцев назад +8

    It's very refreshing to see dieting culture being finally discussed from scientific perspective in the mainstream. Even if for now diet thinking seems to be so ingrained in our culture.
    For people interested in digging into the science behind it I can really recommend the Maintenance Phase podcast

    • @lunar686
      @lunar686 11 месяцев назад +2

      It’s a difficult field of social studies, particularly as culture isn’t stagnant, it is constantly alive and changing, given how popular eating content is online, and the speed it changes, it’s an area worth staying up to date on. Particularly with the speed of the internet part, it’s interesting how certain trends are just repackaged versions of concerns dating back a long time

  • @FanFiLiLi
    @FanFiLiLi 2 месяца назад +1

    I don't buy into her speech. There's reasonable arguments, but not everything is well thought and founded.

  • @gabrieldomocos7570
    @gabrieldomocos7570 11 месяцев назад +13

    Sugar should be regulated as a pharmaceutical

  • @pip5284
    @pip5284 11 месяцев назад +34

    Culture, schmulture...Caring about my own health is not "disordered".

    • @-natmac
      @-natmac 11 месяцев назад +19

      I’ve always been fascinated by people who can miss a point entirely, good on you!

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 11 месяцев назад +6

      I care ( maybe too much) about my health but only my psychiatrist can tell me if I'm "disordered". Lol! everyone else can br filed in the irrelevant, unimportant, entertainment part of my brain. Everything with a grain/pinch of salt...or in my case dump a pound of salt on it when it doesn't come from my own personal professionals. 🤣

    • @clairbear1234
      @clairbear1234 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@-natmac what point do you think they’re missing?

    • @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL
      @2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL 9 месяцев назад +2

      @@marleyhill34right?! Chrissy Harrison isn’t a mental health professional or a physician. She can’t diagnose eating disorders no dietician can.

    • @marleyhill34
      @marleyhill34 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@2FINE4YOUBABYGIRL yeah people are playing fast and loose with their health..always get a second, third and fouth opinion.

  • @gordonwallin2368
    @gordonwallin2368 11 месяцев назад

    Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada

  • @silliepixie
    @silliepixie 11 месяцев назад +3

    I found this conversation interesting. It gave me some questions to ask my doctor. I have always assumed that it is some combination of OCD and/or Autism that make me need to eat only certain foods. I felt called out about packing all of the food that I worry most about not having when I travel. How do other people manage travel anxiety?

    • @DZAROVNY
      @DZAROVNY 8 месяцев назад

      Totally agree with you. I still pack snacks for air travel especially! There's not a lot of great food options in that limited environment. I like to avoid getting sick, because I'm forced to eat food I already know will make me feel sick. Also, it's way less expensive to pack your own snacks and a fun amusement on a 7+ hour plane ride! I make sure to download music / audio-books and buy magazines to focus my attention. Bringing/wearing something soft and comforting helps, too. :D

  • @whitneysanchez6950
    @whitneysanchez6950 11 месяцев назад

    Love this episode, thanks! She's a great guest and such a relevant topic

  • @elizabethwillis885
    @elizabethwillis885 11 месяцев назад +26

    Watch out there will be a lot of pushback on this topic. But the pushback will just show how engrained diet and wellness culture is in our everyday life. It’s like breathing. Listening to diet culture is just a part of everyday life.

    • @raeahthewriter8082
      @raeahthewriter8082 11 месяцев назад +3

      This exactly

    • @clairbear1234
      @clairbear1234 11 месяцев назад +5

      I don’t think it’s quite that simple, we live in an environment where our food is addictive and manufactured, and so trusting are feeling around food doesn’t always equate to an automatically balanced relationship

    • @thanley
      @thanley 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@clairbear1234 I think perhaps the dietician wasn't clear about this but intuitive eating is really more about eating what makes you feel good. For example, eating a few cookies might make someone feel good because they're tasty or eating cookies reminds them of their childhood or whatever, whereas for most people following eating a whole box of cookies they probably won't feel physically good. It's a balance and it often takes a bit of trial and error and careful observation of yourself to realise what makes you feel good. Often people fail to get there because they "slip up" and binge and beat themselves up for not having self control as opposed to having compassion for themselves because, as you said, we live in a world where foods are literally manufactured to be addictive, juxtaposed with the glorification of thinness in society. It's very reasonable that in this environment it can take some time to learn how to eat intuitively, and ideally with professional help.

  • @tf4606
    @tf4606 11 месяцев назад +8

    Absolutely fabulous! Thank you so much for bringing this guest to us! HEALTH was my triggering word...but who defines my health? So many people want to! Clean eating is another, and now wellness! I hear you, sister! (MPH, RD)

    • @elizabethwillis885
      @elizabethwillis885 11 месяцев назад

      I hate the term “clean eating.” It makes me physically cringe.

  • @marleyhill34
    @marleyhill34 11 месяцев назад +10

    Ice and sweetener? Absolutely not. I'm so glad I'm an Old Millenial who grew up eating a mango with salty sea water on a tropical beach digging my toes into the sand as a sensory joy and zero technology...or weird diet and exercise fads. USA is such a weird vacuum/echo chamber of toxic culture. Although I grew up in the Caribbean, I live in Europe now and I've been to Asia and Africa. Literally my Nigerian, Chinese and Italian colleagues and friends are always feeding me.....real food...not ice and artificial sweeteners. I don't know about South America but I went to visit my Puerto Rican in America extended family and they fed me real food not mass-produced factory stuff. This is definitely post-capitalist dystopian food stuff like Snowpiercer or the Matrix. I'ma stick to my island girl, bohemian, hippie, roots...and stay off of TikTok as much as possible. Lol!🤣🤣🤣

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    @raeahthewriter8082 11 месяцев назад +3

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