Dr. Ataie is a true treasure! A master of scriptures whose lectures deserve to be more widely published and viewed. May Allah bless and preserve this man at all costs 🤲🏼
Ali Ataie is my favorite Islamic scholar currently, I've taken notes on two of his lectures already - Finding Muhammad in the Bible and Comparing and Contrasting Christianity and Islam.
I believe this is the BEST interpretation of the Bible so. I wonder why cant Christian Apologist like David Wood, Jay Smith and many others like them cant see Bible like that? This means the Guidance comes from Allah only and only those are guided who are sincere and have no arrogance or ego issue. May Allah protect us from this, amen.
Another proof I find of the prophet pbuh and I relate it to the story of warraqa when he tells the prophet pbuh he will be driven out of mecca and when that happens he will follow him if he' still alive. Luke 4:24 states no prophet is accepted in his hometown and Mathew 13:53-57 jesus goes to his hometown and preaches and shows his signs then is rejected by the people. Jesus states no prophet is without honor except in his hometown. I find this a strong sign of the prophet pbuh that he was rejected like the other prophets and warraqa understood this
Salam. Do you have a full video of the whole occasion (or a link to it)? Would love to listen to the other speakers as well as the Q&A sessions. Thank you.
Isaiah 29:11 seems like says things similar to the context of Isaiah 29:12 and later Isaiah 29:13 contain a curse like verse. It may be refer to the people of no knowledge with no try or the people with wrong knowledges. It may not refer to Muhammad(PBUH). Can I get a valid explanation? I am a self learner. So A help will be useful. I think the Book of Deuteronomy is enough to proof the prophecies of Muhammad(PBUH) with some help of dead sea scrolls of the following book.
.This didn't happen to Muhammad the story was changed to fit Isaiah 29.12 the true older story says Muhammad was sleeping and was asked to read and Muhammad said what shall I read ? then Muhammad said I read it, later the hadith's have the same type of quote as Isaiah 29.12 and Muhammad says he's not learned, this was changed to fit Isaiah. It seems the story is changing to fit certain Bible verses to claim prophecy, because Ibn Ishaq says Muhammad was sleep when he had a vision of Gabriel and the revelation; the words are different because Muhammad says there was some writing and Gabriel says read then Muhammad says what shall I read ? Muhammad after being asked to read finally says this. "He said:" "Read in the name of thy Lord who created, Who created man of blood coagulated. Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent, Who taught by the pen, Taught that which they knew not unto men." "So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart." Muhammad says he read it according to Ibn Ishaq and he wasn't in a cave but asleep in his bed, so the story is changing and being told differently. "So I read it" Biography of Muhammad (Sīrat Rasūl Allāh) When it was the night on which God honored him with his mission and showed mercy on His servants thereby, Gabriel brought him the command of God. "He came to me," said the apostle of God, "while I was asleep, with a coverlet of brocade whereon was some writing, and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ (وما اقرأ) He pressed me with it so tightly that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it again so that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it the third time so that I thought it was death and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What then shall I read?’-and this I said only to deliver myself from him, lest he should do the same to me again. He said: ‘Read in the name of thy Lord who created, Who created man of blood coagulated. Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent, Who taught by the pen, Taught that which they knew not unto men.’ So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart. Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq www.usislam.org/pdf/sirat-RasulAllah-Ibn-Ishaq.PDF It says وما اقرأ "and what (should I) read?". So in this story Muhammad can read, he just asks what should he read. Ibn Ishaq died in 761. But in the 9th century, Bukhari born 21 July 810 C.E has a different story. The evidence adds up like I said before Muhammad could read & write but he wasn't known to be going around reciting scriptures and wasn't known to have written books, but could read; write. Qur'an 29.43 Ali Qarai You did not use to recite any scripture before it, nor did you write it with your right hand, for then the impugners would have been skeptical. So Muhammad wasn't going around reciting scriptures nor writing books but could read and write. "i will write for you revelation so you won't go astray", Some of the companions said. "Come near so that Allah's Messenger may write for you a writing after which you will not go astray," sunnah.com/bukhari:7366 Some of them said: Bring him (the writing material) so that Allah's Messenger may write a document for you and you would never go astray after him And some among them said what 'Umar had (already) said. When they indulged in nonsense and began to dispute in the presence of Allah's Messenger, he said: Get up (and go away) 'Ubaidullah said: Ibn Abbas used to say: There was a heavy loss, indeed a heavy loss, that, due to their dispute and noise. Allah's Messenger could not write (or dictate) the document for them. sunnah.com/muslim:1637c Allah's Messenger said: Bring me a shoulder blade and ink-pot (or tablet and inkpot), so that I write for you a document (by following which) you would never go astray. They said: Allah's Messenger (may peace upon him) is in the state of unconsciousness. sunnah.com/search?q=write+revelation+go+astray+ Muslim scholars have debated this subject for years; are still divided, some say Muhammad could read & write while others claim he couldn't, the debate comes down to language; certain hadith's. Sayed Hussain Makke says The Prophet Muhammad WAS NOT illiterate | Sayed Hussain Makke ruclips.net/video/CgkkEoqkSlo/видео.html Did Prophet Muhammad know how to read & write? ~ Dr. Yasir Qadhi ruclips.net/video/34hgGlWovbQ/видео.html Even scholars like Jamal Badawi, Debate with Sharoosh says Muhammad probably could write but couldn't write very well, in their debate he could read and write but was not very learned like writing books. Jamal admitted the Arabic says Muhammad didn't know how to write very well, the video is already set where Badawi admits this around 104 onward just watch the video about the Treaty and Muhammad writing words, it says in the Arabic Muhammad couldn't write very well, so Muhammad was able to write, so the people understood Muhammad could write but not very well, otherwise why say this ? Jamal Badawi, Anis Sharrosh - The Holy Quran Word of God or Word of Muhammad ruclips.net/video/XR7QhGYU6o0/видео.html Badawi tries to use Qur'an 29.43 as evidence that Muhammad was illiterate but the verse says Muhammad hadn't recite scriptures before nor wrote books, this doesn't mean Muhammad couldn't read nor write but Muhammad wasn't known as reciting scriptures nor writing multiple books. The Qur'an 29.43 uses the Arabic word tatlū تلو meaning recite and not Iqra قرا meaning to read scriptures. So that fix doesn't work because the evidence says Muhammad was writing things just not books; Badawi admitted about the treaty it says Muhammad couldn't write very well, so he wasn't known as writing scriptures but could've been a good poet; wasn't writing books but could write sentences, so he had his scribes write for him adding to the revelation. Qur'an 29.43 Ali Qarai You did not use to recite any scripture before it, nor did you write it with your right hand, for then the impugners would have been skeptical. So Muhammad wasn't going around reciting scriptures nor writing books but could read and write.
@@lakerstekkenn 🤣 not really we can say the same about prediction of jesus 😳 so at the end of the day u have nothing to say when your script just said, the same thing we could've said Jesus was pretending although we know he wasn't of course us Muslims know that but I'm saying if I didn't know that I could assume the same for that, so you can't really say that that's a stupid thing to say and shows the level of hypocrisy, you have !! You only want to use those quotes when it suits you you only want to say those things when it suits you know when somebody says it back to you you won't accept it will you
I appreciate to see the scholarship of Dr. Altaie, and as a believer himself he treats the text with a level of engagement and seriousness that is commendable. Yet, when it comes to interpreting it, he would rather take hadith interpretations over the biblical internal evidence. For instance, Deuteronomy 18:18 announces the coming of a Prophet like Moses... Who is this? The Honored Injil answers, 1) Peter says is Jesus (Acts 3:22), 2) Stephen says is Jesus Acts 7:37 (see whole context), 3) Philips says is Jesus (see John 1:45) and 4) Jesus said, "If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he (Moses) wrote about me." Honored Injil John 5:46 .5) At the time of the baptism of the Messiah, our Lord himself said, Listen to HIm (See Honored Injil, Matthew 3:17). Is the testimony of Waraqa Nawfal above the inpired witnesses? Also, Dr Altaie is right to identify that the Jews had been waiting "the Messiah", "The Prophet" and "Elijah" (see Honored Injil, John 1:25) and they had assumed them to be three different people, yet the honored Injil gives a clear answer in Mathew, Mark and Luke (Matthew 17:1-8, Mark 9:2-8, Luke 9:28-36) describe it, and the Second Epistle of Peter also refers to it (2 Peter 1:16-18). Jesus fulfilled the Law and the Prohets in the very mountain where Moses had received the law. And again God spoke and said: Listen to HIM (Jesus).
Sad, but not unique ; Jewish scholarship & literacy at the time of Jesus was very high , yet they could not grasp basic spiritual truths; As Jesus said as recorded at Mathew 11: 25 ....... "I publicly praise you Father, Lord of heaven & earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones ".
and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him-it was only made to appear so.1 Even those who argue for this ˹crucifixion˺ are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever-only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him. Rather, Allah raised him up to Himself. And Allah is Almighty, All-Wise. Every one of the People of the Book will definitely believe in him before his death.1 And on the Day of Judgment Jesus will be a witness against them. Quran chapter 4 verses 157 to 159.
It seems odd that the doctor talks about esoteric or 'subliminal' interpretations of the Bible and then proceeds to give a literal interpretation of the passage in Isiah 29, quoting that the 'book' will be given to an 'illiterate' one. Scholars of the Bible know that this in fact is a reference to Jerusalem, as the whole passage is also concerned with Jerusalem. The holy city of the Jews is personified time and time again in the Old Testament. The issue with the majority of Islamic apologetics in a Biblical context is that the 'read' of a particular passage of the bible is unfortunately taken out of context, both in the literal and subliminal meaning of each passage. Otherwise it would be very hard indeed to even attempt a comparison of Biblical scripture with Islam. To all who are willing to learn- I suggest you read Isiah 53 (a different chapter of the same prophet), which is a description of the Messiah who was prophesied to come and bear the sins of the world. God bless you all.
@@ibraheemg525 Isaiah 53 is also fulfilled by Jeremiah so it can refer to a single person a prophet bearing the sins of his people because they rejected him and are trying to kill him. Jesus fulfilled Isaiah 53 just like Jeremiah did, Jeremiah even quotes Isaiah 53, like a Lamb being led to the slaughter. This doesn't mean Jeremiah was a human sacrifice for the sins of Israel just like Jesus wasn't this human / God sacrifice for the sins of humanity just a prophet who was rejected and was killed then raised from the dead. Isaiah 53:7 New International Version He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. Jeremiah 11:19 I had been like a gentle lamb led to the slaughter; I did not realize that they had plotted against me, saying, “Let us destroy the tree and its fruit; let us cut him off from the land of the living, that his name be remembered no more.”
@@ibraheemg525 This didn't happen to Muhammad the story was changed to fit Isaiah 29.12 the true older story says Muhammad was sleeping and was asked to read and Muhammad said what shall I read ? then Muhammad said I read it, later the hadith's have the same type of quote as Isaiah 29.12 and Muhammad says he's not learned, this was changed to fit Isaiah. It seems the story is changing to fit certain Bible verses to claim prophecy, because Ibn Ishaq says Muhammad was sleep when he had a vision of Gabriel and the revelation; the words are different because Muhammad says there was some writing and Gabriel says read then Muhammad says what shall I read ? Muhammad after being asked to read finally says this. "He said:" "Read in the name of thy Lord who created, Who created man of blood coagulated. Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent, Who taught by the pen, Taught that which they knew not unto men." "So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart." Muhammad says he read it according to Ibn Ishaq and he wasn't in a cave but asleep in his bed, so the story is changing and being told differently. "So I read it" Biography of Muhammad (Sīrat Rasūl Allāh) When it was the night on which God honored him with his mission and showed mercy on His servants thereby, Gabriel brought him the command of God. "He came to me," said the apostle of God, "while I was asleep, with a coverlet of brocade whereon was some writing, and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ (وما اقرأ) He pressed me with it so tightly that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it again so that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it the third time so that I thought it was death and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What then shall I read?’-and this I said only to deliver myself from him, lest he should do the same to me again. He said: ‘Read in the name of thy Lord who created, Who created man of blood coagulated. Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent, Who taught by the pen, Taught that which they knew not unto men.’ So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart. Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq www.usislam.org/pdf/sirat-RasulAllah-Ibn-Ishaq.PDF It says وما اقرأ "and what (should I) read?". So in this story Muhammad can read, he just asks what should he read. Ibn Ishaq died in 761. But in the 9th century, Bukhari born 21 July 810 C.E has a different story. The evidence adds up like I said before Muhammad could read & write but he wasn't known to be going around reciting scriptures and wasn't known to have written books, but could read; write. Qur'an 29.43 Ali Qarai You did not use to recite any scripture before it, nor did you write it with your right hand, for then the impugners would have been skeptical. So Muhammad wasn't going around reciting scriptures nor writing books but could read and write. "i will write for you revelation so you won't go astray", Some of the companions said. "Come near so that Allah's Messenger may write for you a writing after which you will not go astray," sunnah.com/bukhari:7366 Some of them said: Bring him (the writing material) so that Allah's Messenger may write a document for you and you would never go astray after him And some among them said what 'Umar had (already) said. When they indulged in nonsense and began to dispute in the presence of Allah's Messenger, he said: Get up (and go away) 'Ubaidullah said: Ibn Abbas used to say: There was a heavy loss, indeed a heavy loss, that, due to their dispute and noise. Allah's Messenger could not write (or dictate) the document for them. sunnah.com/muslim:1637c Allah's Messenger said: Bring me a shoulder blade and ink-pot (or tablet and inkpot), so that I write for you a document (by following which) you would never go astray. They said: Allah's Messenger (may peace upon him) is in the state of unconsciousness. sunnah.com/search?q=write+revelation+go+astray+ Muslim scholars have debated this subject for years; are still divided, some say Muhammad could read & write while others claim he couldn't, the debate comes down to language; certain hadith's. Sayed Hussain Makke says The Prophet Muhammad WAS NOT illiterate | Sayed Hussain Makke ruclips.net/video/CgkkEoqkSlo/видео.html Did Prophet Muhammad know how to read & write? ~ Dr. Yasir Qadhi ruclips.net/video/34hgGlWovbQ/видео.html Even scholars like Jamal Badawi, Debate with Sharoosh says Muhammad probably could write but couldn't write very well, in their debate he could read and write but was not very learned like writing books. Jamal admitted the Arabic says Muhammad didn't know how to write very well, the video is already set where Badawi admits this around 104 onward just watch the video about the Treaty and Muhammad writing words, it says in the Arabic Muhammad couldn't write very well, so Muhammad was able to write, so the people understood Muhammad could write but not very well, otherwise why say this ? Jamal Badawi, Anis Sharrosh - The Holy Quran Word of God or Word of Muhammad ruclips.net/video/XR7QhGYU6o0/видео.html Badawi tries to use Qur'an 29.43 as evidence that Muhammad was illiterate but the verse says Muhammad hadn't recite scriptures before nor wrote books, this doesn't mean Muhammad couldn't read nor write but Muhammad wasn't known as reciting scriptures nor writing multiple books. The Qur'an 29.43 uses the Arabic word tatlū تلو meaning recite and not Iqra قرا meaning to read scriptures. So that fix doesn't work because the evidence says Muhammad was writing things just not books; Badawi admitted about the treaty it says Muhammad couldn't write very well, so he wasn't known as writing scriptures but could've been a good poet; wasn't writing books but could write sentences, so he had his scribes write for him adding to the revelation. Qur'an 29.43 Ali Qarai You did not use to recite any scripture before it, nor did you write it with your right hand, for then the impugners would have been skeptical. So Muhammad wasn't going around reciting scriptures nor writing books but could read and write.
@@lakerstekkenn This is an effort in vain. You're just wasting your time bro. Whatever Ib Ishaq wrote how was known to have altered hadiths and inserted things from his own imagination. For your knowledge the word "Igraa" equally means 1/reading and 2/reciting. That means: reading from a written tex or reciting after someone who speaks in front of one, or reading from memory. We're not gonna heed what you or Ibn Ishaq say about something already proven and agreed upon for 1.5 thousand years.
Ali Ataie is a genius of the modern era, an encyclopaedia of religious hermeneutics he is articulate, intelligent and simply magical
I can never get enough... i can watch Dr. Ataie all day. I wish he could do more debates like the good ol'days
Dr. Ataie is a true treasure! A master of scriptures whose lectures deserve to be more widely published and viewed.
May Allah bless and preserve this man at all costs 🤲🏼
alhamdulillah … we have a Muslim Scholar of such calibration to spread the true message of Islam.
MASHALLAH………………. Wow his voice is full of conviction. May Allah grant him the best in this life and the next Ameen
One of the people whose videos I will watch and rewatch and watch again on repeat and never tire of
The guy sitting next to him is reconsidering his beliefs. SubhanAllah
actual scholar and debater. not all about ego with Dr Ali
Ali Ataie is my favorite Islamic scholar currently, I've taken notes on two of his lectures already - Finding Muhammad in the Bible and Comparing and Contrasting Christianity and Islam.
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The Doc got a nice presentation
I am speechless about the truth
May the Christiandom bible poachers learn from you May God bless you and guide you and Muslims around the world
Truly men of insight,HumduALLAH ...
I believe this is the BEST interpretation of the Bible so. I wonder why cant Christian Apologist like David Wood, Jay Smith and many others like them cant see Bible like that? This means the Guidance comes from Allah only and only those are guided who are sincere and have no arrogance or ego issue. May Allah protect us from this, amen.
Ali debated David wood - worth watching
Ya Allah . Bless Dr Ataie.
I love this talk. Really want to know what the Christian sat next to brother Ali thought
Another proof I find of the prophet pbuh and I relate it to the story of warraqa when he tells the prophet pbuh he will be driven out of mecca and when that happens he will follow him if he' still alive. Luke 4:24 states no prophet is accepted in his hometown and Mathew 13:53-57 jesus goes to his hometown and preaches and shows his signs then is rejected by the people. Jesus states no prophet is without honor except in his hometown. I find this a strong sign of the prophet pbuh that he was rejected like the other prophets and warraqa understood this
If he was constantly persecuted by the Meccans, wouldn't it be obvious that he would be driven out? That's not a prophecy.
11:23
إِنَّا أَرْسَلْنَا إِلَيْكُمْ
Enna erselna eleikum
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Good listening
This man
MashAllah Alhamdulillah
Allah his sense of humor is great
Salam. Do you have a full video of the whole occasion (or a link to it)? Would love to listen to the other speakers as well as the Q&A sessions. Thank you.
Will there be any upcoming lectures of Dr. Ali Ataie?
Isaiah 29:11 seems like says things similar to the context of Isaiah 29:12 and later Isaiah 29:13 contain a curse like verse. It may be refer to the people of no knowledge with no try or the people with wrong knowledges. It may not refer to Muhammad(PBUH). Can I get a valid explanation? I am a self learner. So A help will be useful. I think the Book of Deuteronomy is enough to proof the prophecies of Muhammad(PBUH) with some help of dead sea scrolls of the following book.
The curse verse is referring to the Jews who didn’t pray to God correctly
.This didn't happen to Muhammad the story was changed to fit Isaiah 29.12 the true older story says Muhammad was sleeping and was asked to read and Muhammad said what shall I read ? then Muhammad said I read it, later the hadith's have the same type of quote as Isaiah 29.12 and Muhammad says he's not learned, this was changed to fit Isaiah.
It seems the story is changing to fit certain Bible verses to claim prophecy, because Ibn Ishaq says Muhammad was sleep when he had a vision of Gabriel and the revelation; the words are different because Muhammad says there was some writing and Gabriel says read then Muhammad says what shall I read ? Muhammad after being asked to read finally says this.
"He said:"
"Read in the name of thy Lord who created, Who created man of blood coagulated. Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent, Who taught by the pen, Taught that which they knew not unto men."
"So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart."
Muhammad says he read it according to Ibn Ishaq and he wasn't in a cave but asleep in his bed, so the story is changing and being told differently.
"So I read it"
Biography of Muhammad (Sīrat Rasūl Allāh)
When it was the night on which God honored him with his mission and showed mercy on His servants thereby, Gabriel brought him the command of God. "He came to me," said the apostle of God, "while I was asleep, with a coverlet of brocade whereon was some writing, and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ (وما اقرأ) He pressed me with it so tightly that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it again so that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it the third time so that I thought it was death and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What then shall I read?’-and this I said only to deliver myself from him, lest he should do the same to me again. He said: ‘Read in the name of thy Lord who created, Who created man of blood coagulated. Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent, Who taught by the pen, Taught that which they knew not unto men.’
So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart.
Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq
www.usislam.org/pdf/sirat-RasulAllah-Ibn-Ishaq.PDF
It says وما اقرأ "and what (should I) read?". So in this story Muhammad can read, he just asks what should he read.
Ibn Ishaq died in 761. But in the 9th century, Bukhari born 21 July 810 C.E has a different story.
The evidence adds up like I said before Muhammad could read & write but he wasn't known to be going around reciting scriptures and wasn't known to have written books, but could read; write.
Qur'an 29.43
Ali Qarai
You did not use to recite any scripture before it, nor did you write it with your right hand, for then the impugners would have been skeptical.
So Muhammad wasn't going around reciting scriptures nor writing books but could read and write.
"i will write for you revelation so you won't go astray",
Some of the companions said.
"Come near so that Allah's Messenger may write for you a writing after which you will not go astray,"
sunnah.com/bukhari:7366
Some of them said: Bring him (the writing material) so that Allah's Messenger may write a document for you and you would never go astray after him And some among them said what 'Umar had (already) said. When they indulged in nonsense and began to dispute in the presence of Allah's Messenger, he said: Get up (and go away) 'Ubaidullah said: Ibn Abbas used to say: There was a heavy loss, indeed a heavy loss, that, due to their dispute and noise. Allah's Messenger could not write (or dictate) the document for them.
sunnah.com/muslim:1637c
Allah's Messenger said: Bring me a shoulder blade and ink-pot (or tablet and inkpot), so that I write for you a document (by following which) you would never go astray. They said: Allah's Messenger (may peace upon him) is in the state of unconsciousness.
sunnah.com/search?q=write+revelation+go+astray+
Muslim scholars have debated this subject for years; are still divided, some say Muhammad could read & write while others claim he couldn't, the debate comes down to language; certain hadith's.
Sayed Hussain Makke says
The Prophet Muhammad WAS NOT illiterate | Sayed Hussain Makke
ruclips.net/video/CgkkEoqkSlo/видео.html
Did Prophet Muhammad know how to read & write? ~ Dr. Yasir Qadhi
ruclips.net/video/34hgGlWovbQ/видео.html
Even scholars like Jamal Badawi, Debate with Sharoosh says Muhammad probably could write but couldn't write very well, in their debate he could read and write but was not very learned like writing books.
Jamal admitted the Arabic says Muhammad didn't know how to write very well, the video is already set where Badawi admits this around 104 onward just watch the video about the Treaty and Muhammad writing words, it says in the Arabic Muhammad couldn't write very well, so Muhammad was able to write, so the people understood Muhammad could write but not very well, otherwise why say this ?
Jamal Badawi, Anis Sharrosh - The Holy Quran Word of God or Word of Muhammad
ruclips.net/video/XR7QhGYU6o0/видео.html
Badawi tries to use Qur'an 29.43 as evidence that Muhammad was illiterate but the verse says Muhammad hadn't recite scriptures before nor wrote books, this doesn't mean Muhammad couldn't read nor write but Muhammad wasn't known as reciting scriptures nor writing multiple books.
The Qur'an 29.43 uses the Arabic word tatlū
تلو meaning recite and not Iqra قرا meaning to read scriptures.
So that fix doesn't work because the evidence says Muhammad was writing things just not books; Badawi admitted about the treaty it says Muhammad couldn't write very well, so he wasn't known as writing scriptures but could've been a good poet; wasn't writing books but could write sentences, so he had his scribes write for him adding to the revelation.
Qur'an 29.43
Ali Qarai
You did not use to recite any scripture before it, nor did you write it with your right hand, for then the impugners would have been skeptical.
So Muhammad wasn't going around reciting scriptures nor writing books but could read and write.
@@lakerstekkenn 🤣 not really we can say the same about prediction of jesus 😳 so at the end of the day u have nothing to say when your script just said, the same thing we could've said Jesus was pretending although we know he wasn't of course us Muslims know that but I'm saying if I didn't know that I could assume the same for that, so you can't really say that that's a stupid thing to say and shows the level of hypocrisy, you have !! You only want to use those quotes when it suits you you only want to say those things when it suits you know when somebody says it back to you you won't accept it will you
I appreciate to see the scholarship of Dr. Altaie, and as a believer himself he treats the text with a level of engagement and seriousness that is commendable. Yet, when it comes to interpreting it, he would rather take hadith interpretations over the biblical internal evidence. For instance, Deuteronomy 18:18 announces the coming of a Prophet like Moses... Who is this? The Honored Injil answers, 1) Peter says is Jesus (Acts 3:22), 2) Stephen says is Jesus Acts 7:37 (see whole context), 3) Philips says is Jesus (see John 1:45) and 4) Jesus said, "If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he (Moses) wrote about me." Honored Injil John 5:46 .5) At the time of the baptism of the Messiah, our Lord himself said, Listen to HIm (See Honored Injil, Matthew 3:17). Is the testimony of Waraqa Nawfal above the inpired witnesses? Also, Dr Altaie is right to identify that the Jews had been waiting "the Messiah", "The Prophet" and "Elijah" (see Honored Injil, John 1:25) and they had assumed them to be three different people, yet the honored Injil gives a clear answer in Mathew, Mark and Luke (Matthew 17:1-8, Mark 9:2-8, Luke 9:28-36) describe it, and the Second Epistle of Peter also refers to it (2 Peter 1:16-18). Jesus fulfilled the Law and the Prohets in the very mountain where Moses had received the law. And again God spoke and said: Listen to HIM (Jesus).
Esoteric and Exoteric.
Sad, but not unique ; Jewish scholarship & literacy at the time of Jesus was very high , yet they could not grasp basic spiritual truths; As Jesus said as recorded at Mathew 11: 25 .......
"I publicly praise you Father, Lord of heaven & earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and intellectual ones ".
Bro. Why did he say that Muslims don't believe Jesus was crucified... He himself teaches that Jesus was on the cross!!!
and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him-it was only made to appear so.1 Even those who argue for this ˹crucifixion˺ are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever-only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him. Rather, Allah raised him up to Himself. And Allah is Almighty, All-Wise. Every one of the People of the Book will definitely believe in him before his death.1 And on the Day of Judgment Jesus will be a witness against them. Quran chapter 4 verses 157 to 159.
really? the best question they can come up with is what is an infidel??!
How I can contact Dr. Ali Ataie ? Can someone provide me his email?
zaytuna.edu/faculty-details/Ali-Ataie
It seems odd that the doctor talks about esoteric or 'subliminal' interpretations of the Bible and then proceeds to give a literal interpretation of the passage in Isiah 29, quoting that the 'book' will be given to an 'illiterate' one.
Scholars of the Bible know that this in fact is a reference to Jerusalem, as the whole passage is also concerned with Jerusalem. The holy city of the Jews is personified time and time again in the Old Testament.
The issue with the majority of Islamic apologetics in a Biblical context is that the 'read' of a particular passage of the bible is unfortunately taken out of context, both in the literal and subliminal meaning of each passage.
Otherwise it would be very hard indeed to even attempt a comparison of Biblical scripture with Islam.
To all who are willing to learn- I suggest you read Isiah 53 (a different chapter of the same prophet), which is a description of the Messiah who was prophesied to come and bear the sins of the world.
God bless you all.
So Isaiah 29 is in reference to Jerusalem by which scholars? Also Isaiah 53 is a reference to Israel by Rabbinical scholars.
@@ibraheemg525 Isaiah 53 is also fulfilled by Jeremiah so it can refer to a single person a prophet bearing the sins of his people because they rejected him and are trying to kill him. Jesus fulfilled Isaiah 53 just like Jeremiah did, Jeremiah even quotes Isaiah 53, like a Lamb being led to the slaughter.
This doesn't mean Jeremiah was a human sacrifice for the sins of Israel just like Jesus wasn't this human / God sacrifice for the sins of humanity just a prophet who was rejected and was killed then raised from the dead.
Isaiah 53:7
New International Version
He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.
Jeremiah 11:19
I had been like a gentle lamb led to the slaughter; I did not realize that they had plotted against me, saying, “Let us destroy the tree and its fruit; let us cut him off from the land of the living, that his name be remembered no more.”
@@ibraheemg525 This didn't happen to Muhammad the story was changed to fit Isaiah 29.12 the true older story says Muhammad was sleeping and was asked to read and Muhammad said what shall I read ? then Muhammad said I read it, later the hadith's have the same type of quote as Isaiah 29.12 and Muhammad says he's not learned, this was changed to fit Isaiah.
It seems the story is changing to fit certain Bible verses to claim prophecy, because Ibn Ishaq says Muhammad was sleep when he had a vision of Gabriel and the revelation; the words are different because Muhammad says there was some writing and Gabriel says read then Muhammad says what shall I read ? Muhammad after being asked to read finally says this.
"He said:"
"Read in the name of thy Lord who created, Who created man of blood coagulated. Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent, Who taught by the pen, Taught that which they knew not unto men."
"So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart."
Muhammad says he read it according to Ibn Ishaq and he wasn't in a cave but asleep in his bed, so the story is changing and being told differently.
"So I read it"
Biography of Muhammad (Sīrat Rasūl Allāh)
When it was the night on which God honored him with his mission and showed mercy on His servants thereby, Gabriel brought him the command of God. "He came to me," said the apostle of God, "while I was asleep, with a coverlet of brocade whereon was some writing, and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ (وما اقرأ) He pressed me with it so tightly that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said, ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it again so that I thought it was death; then he let me go and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What shall I read?’ He pressed me with it the third time so that I thought it was death and said ‘Read!’ I said, ‘What then shall I read?’-and this I said only to deliver myself from him, lest he should do the same to me again. He said: ‘Read in the name of thy Lord who created, Who created man of blood coagulated. Read! Thy Lord is the most beneficent, Who taught by the pen, Taught that which they knew not unto men.’
So I read it, and he departed from me. And I awoke from my sleep, and it was as though these words were written on my heart.
Sirat Rasul Allah by Ibn Ishaq
www.usislam.org/pdf/sirat-RasulAllah-Ibn-Ishaq.PDF
It says وما اقرأ "and what (should I) read?". So in this story Muhammad can read, he just asks what should he read.
Ibn Ishaq died in 761. But in the 9th century, Bukhari born 21 July 810 C.E has a different story.
The evidence adds up like I said before Muhammad could read & write but he wasn't known to be going around reciting scriptures and wasn't known to have written books, but could read; write.
Qur'an 29.43
Ali Qarai
You did not use to recite any scripture before it, nor did you write it with your right hand, for then the impugners would have been skeptical.
So Muhammad wasn't going around reciting scriptures nor writing books but could read and write.
"i will write for you revelation so you won't go astray",
Some of the companions said.
"Come near so that Allah's Messenger may write for you a writing after which you will not go astray,"
sunnah.com/bukhari:7366
Some of them said: Bring him (the writing material) so that Allah's Messenger may write a document for you and you would never go astray after him And some among them said what 'Umar had (already) said. When they indulged in nonsense and began to dispute in the presence of Allah's Messenger, he said: Get up (and go away) 'Ubaidullah said: Ibn Abbas used to say: There was a heavy loss, indeed a heavy loss, that, due to their dispute and noise. Allah's Messenger could not write (or dictate) the document for them.
sunnah.com/muslim:1637c
Allah's Messenger said: Bring me a shoulder blade and ink-pot (or tablet and inkpot), so that I write for you a document (by following which) you would never go astray. They said: Allah's Messenger (may peace upon him) is in the state of unconsciousness.
sunnah.com/search?q=write+revelation+go+astray+
Muslim scholars have debated this subject for years; are still divided, some say Muhammad could read & write while others claim he couldn't, the debate comes down to language; certain hadith's.
Sayed Hussain Makke says
The Prophet Muhammad WAS NOT illiterate | Sayed Hussain Makke
ruclips.net/video/CgkkEoqkSlo/видео.html
Did Prophet Muhammad know how to read & write? ~ Dr. Yasir Qadhi
ruclips.net/video/34hgGlWovbQ/видео.html
Even scholars like Jamal Badawi, Debate with Sharoosh says Muhammad probably could write but couldn't write very well, in their debate he could read and write but was not very learned like writing books.
Jamal admitted the Arabic says Muhammad didn't know how to write very well, the video is already set where Badawi admits this around 104 onward just watch the video about the Treaty and Muhammad writing words, it says in the Arabic Muhammad couldn't write very well, so Muhammad was able to write, so the people understood Muhammad could write but not very well, otherwise why say this ?
Jamal Badawi, Anis Sharrosh - The Holy Quran Word of God or Word of Muhammad
ruclips.net/video/XR7QhGYU6o0/видео.html
Badawi tries to use Qur'an 29.43 as evidence that Muhammad was illiterate but the verse says Muhammad hadn't recite scriptures before nor wrote books, this doesn't mean Muhammad couldn't read nor write but Muhammad wasn't known as reciting scriptures nor writing multiple books.
The Qur'an 29.43 uses the Arabic word tatlū
تلو meaning recite and not Iqra قرا meaning to read scriptures.
So that fix doesn't work because the evidence says Muhammad was writing things just not books; Badawi admitted about the treaty it says Muhammad couldn't write very well, so he wasn't known as writing scriptures but could've been a good poet; wasn't writing books but could write sentences, so he had his scribes write for him adding to the revelation.
Qur'an 29.43
Ali Qarai
You did not use to recite any scripture before it, nor did you write it with your right hand, for then the impugners would have been skeptical.
So Muhammad wasn't going around reciting scriptures nor writing books but could read and write.
@@lakerstekkenn This is an effort in vain. You're just wasting your time bro. Whatever Ib Ishaq wrote how was known to have altered hadiths and inserted things from his own imagination. For your knowledge the word "Igraa" equally means 1/reading and 2/reciting. That means: reading from a written tex or reciting after someone who speaks in front of one, or reading from memory.
We're not gonna heed what you or Ibn Ishaq say about something already proven and agreed upon for 1.5 thousand years.
@@Vreidyfarm i did not get you point brother what is your criticisms of ibn ishaq?
On a superficial side note, Dr. Ataie has never looked as Persian as in this video😂