but it isn't fluid, in certain aspects. So if you value jokes over the gameplay, hell its the best engine in any game ever. If you want good fights, you'll still get them, but now your fist will bounce off a blocks and other stuff like that
I still absolutely love this engine so much and wish they wouldn't scrap it, though I guess I get why they would. (At least from what I have heard as to why they may do that)
It's really unlikely that will happen. Ishin is only using Unreal to backport the Y5-YK1 engine, the other games announced seem to be purely Dragon Engine titles.
There's nothing the Dragon Engine can do that Unreal 5 can't. And a lot UE 5 can do much better. The only reason RGG Studio would persist with an in-house engine at this point is if Sega preferred to make a single large investment in an inferior option upfront just so they don't have to pay licensing fees to Epic Games. Which at this point doesn't scale well with super high budget games. In essence, the aforementioned large investment has only gotten larger and licensing fees have become smaller and smaller as a portion of the total budget.
Well even if they switch that doesn't mean they'll do away with physichs. Ishin didn't have them because it's basically a straight port to unreal. No changes to the environment, physichs, etc.
@@JosephJoeseph yeah it felt like the old PS3 games in both the good and bad ways but I didn't mind tbh, if they bring the dragon physics back for the other titles I'll be content, they seem competent
@@EntermateStar Well the bad ways might partially just be the remake's fault. Fans of the original really hate it because the rebalancing of the styles made brawler worthless, the trooper cards mess with the game's balancing even if you disable them and almost all the bosses have constant superarmor making comboing them impossible. It's also supposedly more grindy. I played neither, there's supposedly an unofficial english patch coming out for the original and I'm waiting on that (thanks Yakuza community for preserving these fantastic games RGG doesn't give a shit about preserving) so I can't personally comment but almost every original Ishin fan I encountered said the combat was completely ruined, so woohoo
@@JosephJoeseph idk I saw people whining that the remake was too hard even on normal, which I can't agree on, I'm playing on normal and I'm notoriously dogshit at video games of most kinds and I'm just not struggling with it at all, I'm near the end like on chapter 10-11 out of 14
Yeah, Dragon Engine can made some fights feel like dumb slap fights and the amount of weird things that can happen to you or get you stuck on can be frustrating. But on the other hand, it's really funny.
was there talks or rumors that RGG may be moving on from the Dragon Engine? edit: They just commented that it's an old engine at this point, and for the future may consider a big update to it. But RGG Ishin's using Unreal Engine anyway.
As someone who's playing all Yakuza games on Steam include JE and LJ(Beside KF,Still collect some money for that),I can confirmed DE can be both blessed but also cursed at the same times. Can't believe from engine that got complaint about making games with worst combat like 6 come for a long way and become engine that create game with best combat like Lost Judgment. And I can confirmed messing around in Dragon Engine games,Especially,Lost Judgment was extremely fun lmao. If you got pc that can handle it or know some good tweaks,Ofc.
@@Pickoffarwim They're all really good honestly. RGG has yet to fail. At worst their games have rough patches but since at their core they're all basically just Yakuza games, it works out. Let's ignore Dead Souls please.
Tiger is for Power and Single Target damage. I use it to take out a single enemy quickly and for big damage with charge attacks. The hidden art also increases your damage after landing a charged finishing blow. Dragon's Crushing Fist is Lost Judgment's Tiger Drop and it's pretty good since you can also use it on Mortal Attacks. I mainly use it for the launcher it has on I think its first finishing blow for aerial combos. The charged attacks in EX boost (when holding down Triangle on DualShock), deal a lot of damage and are actually pretty good at dealing with multiple enemies. The EX finisher for landing 4 Triangle attacks and when an enemy has Agony (from say, Snake) are also hard hitters. Snake is for enemies with weapons (can disarm or do EX actions) and defense/crowd control. Snake is the only style that can block from all directions (iirc), letting you parry enemies (including bosses) even if they're behind you or have a weapon (there are a few exceptions). So, if an enemy is about to attack from behind, you can swap to Snake to parry and get free hits in. The parry is also good at setting up a Flux Fissure from Tiger or making an enemy bounce off a wall for Boxer's EX action. Snake's charged finishers also inflict Agony, which makes it harder for enemies and bosses to dodge so it's good for evasive enemies and setting up Boxer's EX action for Agony. It also makes grabbing bosses easier since even if they break free from it, you can grab them again and it'll last long enough to do an EX action. The hidden art for Snake makes you immune to knockdown on a successful parry. The quickstep attack can also apply stun if used a couple times which opens up Tiger's EX action too. Crane is great for dealing with multiple enemies and being able to launch them into the air by having the most options for it (1st finishing blow, 4th, Crane Counter, and pressing Triangle during the jump). The finishing blow EX during EX Boost and the jump EX action is good for a single enemy or multiple. Wall Jump EX action is also great for multiple enemies. Even if Crane isn't used at all, I still recommend swapping to it to activate its hidden art since it increases your attack speed (which can apply to all styles with the upgrade) and isn't difficult to activate either since the timing for dodging is forgiving. Boxer I find benefits the most from other styles and supports them well too. It's kind of a mix between Snake and Tiger with the counters/evasive options it has alongside the quick attack speed. The hidden art increases your EX gauge charge on a successful dodge or counter-attack iirc. The lack of EX actions specific to Boxer (being 2 I think) and the reliance on other styles to set them up makes Boxer to me more of a support/utility style. The uppercut is a great launching tool and EX Boost Triangle attacks and normal strings are good for sustained damage.
@@CatsOnMars420 kiwami plays exactly like 0 with no majima. Youll probably like 2 and 6. They have much better graphics but dont have style switching or multiple characters and if you touch anything in the envirnoment it will explode. 4 and 5 still have decent combat and a poop load of characters to play as so i bet youll like those too. 7 I thought was amazing even though its not a beat em up and I havent played judgment yet but the combat actually looks sick. I think the whole series is on gamepass if you want to check them out
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3:34 Kaito throwin' it back.
I cant tell if the community loves the dragon engine or hates it
WE LOVE IT, IT FITS PERFECTLY IN THE YAKUZA UNIVERSE
Both
Yes
It's great for thematics, brutality, and shenanigans. Horrible for combat tech, combos, and trying to game systems.
@@buns9022 I've played judgemant and the combat in that game might be one of my favourite in the entire series
Essence of dragon engine:
Engine drop
*essence of random bullshit
@@gabrielmelo4764 engine parry (like komaki parry if u don't get it)
@@loganmather7705 essence of engine, reborn
0:52 looks like a combo out of dmc5
Shit, I need to buy dmc5 now
or tekken tbh
@@ryanhernandez8324 you should’ve done that a long time ago
No that's a MK or Tekken combo stfu man.
More like tekken
Yagami nearly killing Kaito still makes me laugh
6:15 Knife Guy had one plan in the fight and he stayed true to it.
Stabby Mcstab stab 🗡🗡🗡
I wonder how did yagami say "yeah yeah I'll be fine" while he was dead so weird.
His name is Fujihara and always will be Fujihara, keihin gang members have set names
7:43 "Huh..??What's that noi--PFFDD"
0:51 this looks sick.
5:53 WTF HE DID IT!!!
Like the video title says "Dragon engine is still a blessing and a curse" dragon engine sure can be really weird sometimes lol.
What theme is that?
@@Boopy357 Sounds like the final boss theme for the Kaito Files DLC for Lost Judgment.
@@TheRedMage01 Apparently it is "Not Alone" from the credits. Which was remixed for Duel in Kaito Files
"You _can_ handle it, yeah?"
Kaito he's fucking DEAD
8:41 Happens every time without fail
Essence of collateral damage bill
0:31 looked like a decent transition ngl
How to simultaneously break the game and your modern spyware at the same time
8:45 I swear that happens to me every time I walk in that building 😂
every time I go to sleep I can hear snake style theme playing as thousands of objects take damage in 2 seconds and pain noises
Eh, I'd just call the Dragon Engine a blessing, because it's freakin hilarious.
but it isn't fluid, in certain aspects. So if you value jokes over the gameplay, hell its the best engine in any game ever. If you want good fights, you'll still get them, but now your fist will bounce off a blocks and other stuff like that
@@ShrimpRice bruh the fists only bounce in yakuza 6 and kiwami 2 it doesn't happen in both judgments
1:36 Nice Music Sync
whoooa sick
I still absolutely love this engine so much and wish they wouldn't scrap it, though I guess I get why they would. (At least from what I have heard as to why they may do that)
It's really unlikely that will happen. Ishin is only using Unreal to backport the Y5-YK1 engine, the other games announced seem to be purely Dragon Engine titles.
@@krebbit6434 Gaiden is also unreal like Ishin
@@elmark3550 No its not? Where's it been confirmed?
@@krebbit6434 I'll look for it give me some time
There's nothing the Dragon Engine can do that Unreal 5 can't. And a lot UE 5 can do much better.
The only reason RGG Studio would persist with an in-house engine at this point is if Sega preferred to make a single large investment in an inferior option upfront just so they don't have to pay licensing fees to Epic Games. Which at this point doesn't scale well with super high budget games. In essence, the aforementioned large investment has only gotten larger and licensing fees have become smaller and smaller as a portion of the total budget.
4:16 why 😂
DRAGON ENGINE IS A CURSE LOOOOL HAHAHA 🤣🤣
I'm a bit worried about the switch to unreal, we most likely won't be able to explode things by walking into them anymore :(
Well even if they switch that doesn't mean they'll do away with physichs. Ishin didn't have them because it's basically a straight port to unreal. No changes to the environment, physichs, etc.
@@JosephJoeseph yeah it felt like the old PS3 games in both the good and bad ways but I didn't mind tbh, if they bring the dragon physics back for the other titles I'll be content, they seem competent
@@EntermateStar Well the bad ways might partially just be the remake's fault. Fans of the original really hate it because the rebalancing of the styles made brawler worthless, the trooper cards mess with the game's balancing even if you disable them and almost all the bosses have constant superarmor making comboing them impossible. It's also supposedly more grindy. I played neither, there's supposedly an unofficial english patch coming out for the original and I'm waiting on that (thanks Yakuza community for preserving these fantastic games RGG doesn't give a shit about preserving) so I can't personally comment but almost every original Ishin fan I encountered said the combat was completely ruined, so woohoo
@@JosephJoeseph idk I saw people whining that the remake was too hard even on normal, which I can't agree on, I'm playing on normal and I'm notoriously dogshit at video games of most kinds and I'm just not struggling with it at all, I'm near the end like on chapter 10-11 out of 14
@@EntermateStar Well 'ruined' doesn't mean harder, it means it's way less fun than the original
Yeah, Dragon Engine can made some fights feel like dumb slap fights and the amount of weird things that can happen to you or get you stuck on can be frustrating.
But on the other hand, it's really funny.
More games need original game engines.
See, the problem is that that takes a lot of time and money, both of which would likely be better spent on the actual game, no
Arent they moving Yakuza to Unreal 5?
@@jimmybuba2683 yea
No they don't, it's a waste of time and money and it will be faster using Unreal Engine now that it's widely used by most game devs.
Devs making their own game engine is nice but it might cost a lot of money and time
1:07 Such good budddies
Yagami can fight kaito but dosent want him to die.
Thats how much their friendship is.
7:04 He just like me fr!
9:37 Comedic timing tho
Dragon engine feels like everything weighs the same as paper
0:09
Yagami really do be using the Shining Finger.
This mortal kombat combo 0:53
4:21 happened to me on my first playthrough, god it was annoying
You can do some Devil May Cry shit in this game.
11:45 bro thinks he's chun li
why VF5US doesn't keep the ragdoll physics? would've been hilarious tho
It's not exactly a one-to-one engine conversion, it's probably for the RGG style graphics.
was there talks or rumors that RGG may be moving on from the Dragon Engine?
edit: They just commented that it's an old engine at this point, and for the future may consider a big update to it. But RGG Ishin's using Unreal Engine anyway.
What music is used in 5:28 beyond?
"Not alone" from lost judgment
Man I love judgment, but I *hate* those tailing missions with a passion!
As someone who's playing all Yakuza games on Steam include JE and LJ(Beside KF,Still collect some money for that),I can confirmed DE can be both blessed but also cursed at the same times.
Can't believe from engine that got complaint about making games with worst combat like 6 come for a long way and become engine that create game with best combat like Lost Judgment.
And I can confirmed messing around in Dragon Engine games,Especially,Lost Judgment was extremely fun lmao. If you got pc that can handle it or know some good tweaks,Ofc.
i must buy this game
You definitely should. One of the better RGG studio games
@@Pickoffarwim They're all really good honestly. RGG has yet to fail. At worst their games have rough patches but since at their core they're all basically just Yakuza games, it works out.
Let's ignore Dead Souls please.
I had no idea Ijincho was in one of the Judgement game.s Man I really need to get them.
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hell yea- OUAAAAH
ngl this looks way better to me than LaD. How complete is the English dub btw?
Everything except random street thugs' battle grunts/lines.
imagine using english in a jp game
should i even mention most english VAs are cryptofa?
@@slvrshore5300 yes, how I dare I want voices I can understand instead of what may as well be gobbledegook.
@@Lazyguy22username checks out
We hate glass in this house
Did the Cane Man say "How DARE you!" Because you turned your back to him?
Tekken players be like: 0:52
What music was used at the start of the video?
lost judgment - ferocious red
@@capo1337 You are an absolute legend.
Can someone please tell me how to properly use snake and tiger?
Ive tried using them but they feel kinda useless compared crane
I find crâne the most useless, snake is slightly better and I use tiger and boxer the most
Tiger is for Power and Single Target damage. I use it to take out a single enemy quickly and for big damage with charge attacks. The hidden art also increases your damage after landing a charged finishing blow. Dragon's Crushing Fist is Lost Judgment's Tiger Drop and it's pretty good since you can also use it on Mortal Attacks. I mainly use it for the launcher it has on I think its first finishing blow for aerial combos. The charged attacks in EX boost (when holding down Triangle on DualShock), deal a lot of damage and are actually pretty good at dealing with multiple enemies. The EX finisher for landing 4 Triangle attacks and when an enemy has Agony (from say, Snake) are also hard hitters.
Snake is for enemies with weapons (can disarm or do EX actions) and defense/crowd control. Snake is the only style that can block from all directions (iirc), letting you parry enemies (including bosses) even if they're behind you or have a weapon (there are a few exceptions). So, if an enemy is about to attack from behind, you can swap to Snake to parry and get free hits in. The parry is also good at setting up a Flux Fissure from Tiger or making an enemy bounce off a wall for Boxer's EX action. Snake's charged finishers also inflict Agony, which makes it harder for enemies and bosses to dodge so it's good for evasive enemies and setting up Boxer's EX action for Agony. It also makes grabbing bosses easier since even if they break free from it, you can grab them again and it'll last long enough to do an EX action. The hidden art for Snake makes you immune to knockdown on a successful parry. The quickstep attack can also apply stun if used a couple times which opens up Tiger's EX action too.
Crane is great for dealing with multiple enemies and being able to launch them into the air by having the most options for it (1st finishing blow, 4th, Crane Counter, and pressing Triangle during the jump). The finishing blow EX during EX Boost and the jump EX action is good for a single enemy or multiple. Wall Jump EX action is also great for multiple enemies. Even if Crane isn't used at all, I still recommend swapping to it to activate its hidden art since it increases your attack speed (which can apply to all styles with the upgrade) and isn't difficult to activate either since the timing for dodging is forgiving.
Boxer I find benefits the most from other styles and supports them well too. It's kind of a mix between Snake and Tiger with the counters/evasive options it has alongside the quick attack speed. The hidden art increases your EX gauge charge on a successful dodge or counter-attack iirc. The lack of EX actions specific to Boxer (being 2 I think) and the reliance on other styles to set them up makes Boxer to me more of a support/utility style. The uppercut is a great launching tool and EX Boost Triangle attacks and normal strings are good for sustained damage.
Weren't they gonna replace it with unreal 5 soon?
yep, i think they said that LAD8 is gonna be the last game in the series to be made in the dragon engine
@@Theakritas_ hmmm as long as the physics are better i don't think anyone would mind
Dragon engine issues can be solved by getting rid of ragdolls and using pre made animations again.
Curse? What curse?
Can you guys stop pretending the laws of physics would apply in japan? They made their own laws of physics and RGG Studios made it really realstic
only the most weak spirited fools still haven’t accustomed themselves to the dragon engine. they will not survive the winter
Oh my god i still fucking hate dragon engine
This is not because of the engine tho
Anyone else think the combat peaked at zero?
Playing 0 right now and lowkey scared to try the other games excluding kiwami
@@CatsOnMars420 kiwami plays exactly like 0 with no majima. Youll probably like 2 and 6. They have much better graphics but dont have style switching or multiple characters and if you touch anything in the envirnoment it will explode. 4 and 5 still have decent combat and a poop load of characters to play as so i bet youll like those too. 7 I thought was amazing even though its not a beat em up and I havent played judgment yet but the combat actually looks sick. I think the whole series is on gamepass if you want to check them out
@@aroccoification doesn't even matter if the combat is good. I'm still gonna play that shit anyway 🗿
Peaked at 3
@@jamrockVEVO 3 is what made the series what it is but 4,5,6 and 0 all have much better story and combat than 3