Cozads champion song

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  • Опубликовано: 6 дек 2015

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  • @nikjalik03
    @nikjalik03 2 года назад +179

    I’m African-American and I can feel this deep down in my soul and it brought tears to my eyes. Much respect.

    • @jennysofficalyoutubechanne2924
      @jennysofficalyoutubechanne2924 Год назад +6

      btw this is the Kiowa guard champion song

    • @frankiesalazar3515
      @frankiesalazar3515 Год назад +2

    • @corrinenolan344
      @corrinenolan344 Год назад +9

      It's that ancestral drum we all share 🥰

    • @scottducey152
      @scottducey152 Год назад +4

      I tear up because they beautiful people and all the bad shit that happend to them and they still here and doin they thing much love im part Chippewa indian from Wisconsin area

    • @user-ws1sh2bq6w
      @user-ws1sh2bq6w Год назад +1

      ​@@frankiesalazar3515 ❤❤😂

  • @ladybirdstarshine4692
    @ladybirdstarshine4692 5 лет назад +198

    The Grandmothers...singing...
    🤩🙏⭐😇

    • @tkitchkeesic
      @tkitchkeesic 3 года назад +3

      *sends shivers* ❤️❤️❤️

  • @moikukuikeawe5116
    @moikukuikeawe5116 3 года назад +142

    I’m Hawaiian Kanaka Maoli and Am honored to watch this ! Indigenous people it’s Our time to Rise Up🔥

    • @dirty_rootzgaming9216
      @dirty_rootzgaming9216 3 года назад +3

      Bruh im Tongan and clip got me HYPED!!!

    • @moikukuikeawe5116
      @moikukuikeawe5116 3 года назад +3

      @@dirty_rootzgaming9216 Poly Pride Bah✊🏽❤️ Indigenous Pride✊🏽 One Love❤️

    • @kealohasurf
      @kealohasurf 3 года назад +1

      Aloha, braddah, I'm with you, any song that energizes the Native and Indigenous ways, makes me proud to be not only Hawaiian, but also Chumash. Shaka!

    • @moikukuikeawe5116
      @moikukuikeawe5116 3 года назад

      @@kealohasurf Yessah Bah All Love🤙🏽

    • @andreas9181
      @andreas9181 3 года назад +1

      I just wanted to say I love your culture

  • @minustaco42zero24
    @minustaco42zero24 3 года назад +134

    This is the sound of a spirit you can't ever break. They tried but here we are still, definitely not as strong in numbers but damn strong in spirit.

    • @claytonmartin3305
      @claytonmartin3305 Год назад

      yall gave me a breaking and entering charge for sleeping in a abandoned building on mohawk land on land that hasnt been touched since 2013

    • @mastersplinter2781
      @mastersplinter2781 11 месяцев назад

      Diné is over half a million strong. Together we are strong. 🔥

  • @veezo2323
    @veezo2323 4 года назад +322

    THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT THE NATIVE CULTURE THAT WHENEVER YOU SEE THEM DANCE OR SING. YOU COULD REALLY FEEL THE SPIRITUAL PART OF IT. I LOVE THAT!!

    • @mollywtrrrr
      @mollywtrrrr 4 года назад +5

      Veezo TV definitely!!

    • @k10gai7
      @k10gai7 3 года назад +8

      Yesss

    • @54032Zepol
      @54032Zepol 3 года назад +7

      If they werent inside the building all they hairs be blowing in the wind even on the quiet nights.

    • @brownjet578
      @brownjet578 3 года назад +8

      Heart beat of the drum brother

    • @jadenbegay7323
      @jadenbegay7323 3 года назад +11

      The drum is to reflect the heart beats, and not much language was used for singing. It really was mainly spiritual, I remember when my mom would listen to these songs she would cry because of how much it meant to her personally ❤️ it makes your soul want to come out itself and say hello ✨

  • @ModestCube100
    @ModestCube100 3 года назад +27

    I remember my dad bringing to these. I can now understand. Wish you were still here. Navajo proud.

  • @skinnydian
    @skinnydian 6 лет назад +255

    I love this song!! But my favorite part is right before the fourth push-up when their dad "catches" the song puts on his heart so his soul can grow and then he gives it back to he drum. Only native people can understand what that really means. 100000000000 aho's!!

    • @skinnydian
      @skinnydian 6 лет назад +9

      He catches at 3:15

    • @dreamer2260
      @dreamer2260 4 года назад +2

      Wow that’s so cool, thanks for pointing that out. I did wonder what that gesture was. Awesome.

    • @Warrigt
      @Warrigt 3 года назад +5

      "Only..." Ah, didn't realize we were doing gatekeeping in here. Noted.

    • @wyonamountain5907
      @wyonamountain5907 3 года назад +2

      I love watching this video of them they are all related ❤️ And that is my FAV part when he does that also..

    • @noeflores7164
      @noeflores7164 2 года назад +1

      tbh i wish i could understand everything they are saying...i love this ceremonies...........

  • @msNativegal
    @msNativegal 3 года назад +252

    RIP Larry Cozad. Thank you for all the years you've sung for us, keeping us grounded. May you continue to sing for us in the sky world 🙏💜

    • @rtk406
      @rtk406 3 года назад +11

      Was he the grandpa? made me cry when he took control on that down beat half way thru. Made me think of my grandpa

    • @drewdown826
      @drewdown826 3 года назад

      You look black

    • @msNativegal
      @msNativegal 3 года назад +2

      @@rtk406 I'm not sure but I'm going to miss his singing.

    • @Hhhhsksk
      @Hhhhsksk 3 года назад +6

      @@drewdown826 thats not nicr

    • @TwistedCantQuickscope
      @TwistedCantQuickscope 3 года назад +3

      @@drewdown826 You’re Racist!

  • @ck_mochi5966
    @ck_mochi5966 4 года назад +239

    Brought me to tears at three am. Chills. Everything. Beautiful to see grandmothers backing the drum 🤍

    • @Lafingflower
      @Lafingflower 4 года назад +1

      Ha aho Dawkey

    • @Paycenn
      @Paycenn 4 года назад

      Quit lying

    • @ck_mochi5966
      @ck_mochi5966 4 года назад +3

      @@Paycenn Okay you can relax lmaooo

    • @justintrudeau5362
      @justintrudeau5362 3 года назад +3

      Paycen Cardinal go smudge

    • @darylgalindo8590
      @darylgalindo8590 3 года назад +2

      Made me cry tears of joy last night
      Something about my Cozad relatives
      The spirit is alive and well in them hau

  • @RBarber128
    @RBarber128 3 года назад +27

    Seeing the grandma's in the back singing brought me to tears!!! I'm beyond proud to be Anishanaabe ✊

  • @krojones9270
    @krojones9270 4 года назад +27

    I'm Apache and this hit me. Seeing elders still singing speaks more volumes

  • @dakotaneconie5325
    @dakotaneconie5325 5 лет назад +60

    Them dudes were getting down and those war crys in the background was kick ass too

  • @kealohasurf
    @kealohasurf 3 года назад +20

    I am a decendant of the proud nation of the California Coastal Band of Chumash Indians, this song is LIT. Seeing the grandmothers sing backup, truly shows why this Cozad song earned the champion's honor. Aho! Mitakuye Oyasin!

  • @kiwikuzz11
    @kiwikuzz11 6 лет назад +174

    This was awesome to watch!
    I am a Māori from New Zealand and this looked like a family affair with young and elderly taking part great to see and it looked like they had fun doing it along side their famz something my culture enjoys doing as well especially when you see the old ones just living in the moment and going off on their own thing lol our elderly do the same they love showing us up any opportunity they get hahahah .
    Mauri ora ki te whanau! (Long life to the family)

    • @CoiKickapoo
      @CoiKickapoo 4 года назад +15

      These are cozads they are Kiowa..very proud people small tribe but a fearless one thank u for ur comments.

    • @evingold8991
      @evingold8991 4 года назад +3

      kiwikuzz11 you should watch “Northern Cree” you’d be amazed

    • @NeonOpan
      @NeonOpan 4 года назад +2

      Evan Lacour Those our my Peeps nd they are also Osage from the Zon-Zo-Li! Alot of the songs they sing are Osage E-Lon-Ska songs(Dance of the Eldest Son)

    • @donniaantuna183
      @donniaantuna183 4 года назад +4

      Cozad family is a big prominent family of singers n dancers. I believe 16 siblings. They are very blessed by Dawkee.

    • @gardacrane2019
      @gardacrane2019 4 года назад

      0p
      W

  • @Kwanusela1
    @Kwanusela1 6 лет назад +66

    Such a powerful song and to see those respected Elders singing there hearts out brought tears to my eyes. I’m Native from the ‘Na̱mg̱is First Nation, Alert Bay, Northern tip of Vancouver Island. We also have a very strong Culture. This song made my heart extremely happy to be Native. We have been here since the beginning of time. We are the land and the land is Us. 💞 Gilakas’la ~ Thank You.

  • @adrianosbeleso1815
    @adrianosbeleso1815 3 года назад +19

    I dont know why it pierces my heart to watch this perhaps the elder grandmother standing in the back ground very touching...😥👍😊

  • @qudsiaabdullali
    @qudsiaabdullali 3 года назад +24

    Oh my god!! I seriously got goosebumps, was shaking and was close to tears right at the beginning of the video and I'm not even native. I can imagine the emotions must be tenfolds over for natives listening to or practising the songs of their ancestors.

  • @rtk406
    @rtk406 3 года назад +14

    Made me tear up watching that ol grandpa took control on that down beat. Was awesome

  • @PamelaStJohn
    @PamelaStJohn 4 года назад +16

    OMG THIS BROUGHT TEARS TO MY EYES!!!! NATIVE PRIDE BABY!!!!!

  • @1973ruben
    @1973ruben 4 месяца назад +1

    I am from England and OH MY GOOD GOD!! this hits you right into your soul... send chills down your spine. Absolutely beautiful

  • @kyrabilagody6313
    @kyrabilagody6313 6 лет назад +51

    This song gave me chills love it !!

    • @Fhersia
      @Fhersia 4 года назад +2

      This song is powerfull

  • @mikeditto8361
    @mikeditto8361 4 года назад +9

    God I love this song. I watched it like 5 or more times and I not tried of it. Cozad singers man I miss yall. I hope to see yall again soon after this COVID is over.

  • @alexiss680
    @alexiss680 2 года назад +6

    I watched this several times with my 7 year old granddaughter . I wanted her to see something sacred and different from her world. We bought a hand drum and played along! Gave me chills and much respect for others! Thank you!

  • @mneguib
    @mneguib 3 года назад +10

    Wow!!!.... Solo de escucharlo genera una energía especial en el cuerpo!! 👍 ... GRACIAS

  • @TheMad_God
    @TheMad_God 3 года назад +10

    This is my favorite to watch Everytime I'm on RUclips

  • @joshualinton4273
    @joshualinton4273 3 года назад +8

    Thee legendary Cozads singers are awesome...a blessing to see. Thank u for this!

  • @MyishaJB
    @MyishaJB 3 года назад +6

    Thank You ancestors for all your sacrifices and fight to live. Creator grant you long life and health. ❤️🙋🏾‍♀️

  • @noahshadlow4914
    @noahshadlow4914 3 года назад +15

    Rest In Peace aunt Charlene 💜

  • @FreedomToRoam86
    @FreedomToRoam86 3 года назад +6

    Song takes off and keeps going. These folks bring so much good feeling to it, watching then or 5 years later. And fast as all get out!

  • @BriaSioux
    @BriaSioux 4 года назад +4

    Just what my soul needed. A beautiful southern style song. 🤍🖤❤️💛

  • @aaliyahgarcia209
    @aaliyahgarcia209 4 года назад +20

    Thank you just hearing the beginning brought tears and emotions I haven’t felt for awhile.. many blessings..

    • @jamesalexander1477
      @jamesalexander1477 3 года назад

      Hello can I learn this culture from you is so nice my name is James from Berlin Germany lives in Liverpool United Kingdom write new on my private email if you don’t mind jamesalex2522@gmail.com, I will be glad to hear from you soon

  • @AloWhite
    @AloWhite 2 года назад +4

    One of the best amazing drum groups in the World.! Miigwetch

  • @PaulCozad
    @PaulCozad Месяц назад

    Cozad in the house!!! My beautiful family jamming... My Late Great grandfather... My father... Took me in 1962... This beautiful song brings great feelings & good memories.❤❤❤ Ah-Ho!!!❤❤❤

  • @thedjinn2873
    @thedjinn2873 2 года назад +12

    Listening for a world music class and it gave me chills. Thanks for putting this publicly on RUclips where those of us who aren't part of indigenous tribes can enjoy it! Great music! :)

  • @nikot4410
    @nikot4410 3 года назад +7

    Beautiful! Amazing culture and beautiful people. I’m a native Siberian and I feel you very deeply in my heart and soul.

  • @austindenotter19
    @austindenotter19 3 года назад +4

    I grew up northern wisconsin listening to men/boys singing with manly voices not these high screeching little boys that are singing now. When did all of it change? These guys remind me of those days.

    • @lorila-northrup7748
      @lorila-northrup7748 5 месяцев назад +1

      Show some respect when you're ignorant of what you chose to watch. These are world championship singers. Men & women singing from their soul for longer than you've existed. I'll explain it to you. This is Southern Style music. They have a heavier drum sound than most northern tribes.
      Since there are a multitude of tribes in Wisconsin, idk which you "grew up around", but if your tale is true, you would've come with respect. Who raised you to act up for something that has nothing to do with you?!

  • @allenpasquale8729
    @allenpasquale8729 2 года назад +2

    Pueblo Native, but new listener to pow wow. Gotta say this is a fav i will know forever. Stay strong and walk in beauty my people 💪

  • @jadenbegay7323
    @jadenbegay7323 3 года назад +2

    I remember as a kid my family and I used to travel everywhere. While my grandpa's, uncles, cousins sitting at the Cozad drum group - my job was to run and go get foods & drinks for them. I would get $15 to go get frybread/food or soda/water, run off and return with the food - if people don't know it's because the drummers & singers weren't allowed to leave the drum unless it was for the bathroom or something extremely important. So they would have "runners" like me, so they wouldn't have to leave, I miss those days 💔 most of them have passed on but I Know their up there singing away with their family dancing by their side, thank you for this ❤️🙏

  • @rogiersolter7066
    @rogiersolter7066 4 года назад +5

    Goosebumps every time i listen to this. Spiritual

  • @suraekincannon6427
    @suraekincannon6427 3 года назад +5

    This is so heartwarming to have grandmother's backing up the drumming.

  • @stevejulian
    @stevejulian 3 года назад +10

    There is cool and then there is Cozad cool. These gentlemen along with the Women sure did an awesome song.

  • @brandinickaboine419
    @brandinickaboine419 5 лет назад +18

    There's so many amazing things I can about how this song made me feel but I don't even know where to begin but having just dealt with 2 funerals since yesterday this has definitely lifted my spirit back up!..
    #PROUDTOBEINDEGENIOUS

  • @cowboysnation6053
    @cowboysnation6053 4 года назад +7

    Wish I was there in Person to have Experienced this Special moment.
    It looked Very Moving to see the elderly involved and how much it moved them.
    May You All Be Blessed🙏🏽
    Also Thank You 🙏🏽 For Recording and Putting it up on RUclips.
    Thank You!

  • @wyonamountain5907
    @wyonamountain5907 3 года назад +4

    I listen to this over and over beautiful song !!! ❤️

  • @mykegarnenez
    @mykegarnenez Год назад +2

    Still rocking to this song to this day! Beautiful and always get me teary eyed 🥹

  • @joeurbina2267
    @joeurbina2267 4 года назад +5

    This is so inspirational. Gave me strength and humility. Incredible.

  • @allenaboyd1462
    @allenaboyd1462 3 года назад +4

    Lenard cozad is my grandfather

  • @danielshardlow9392
    @danielshardlow9392 3 года назад +7

    Absolutely incredible.

  • @stevejulian
    @stevejulian 3 года назад +7

    Keep coming back to listen and watch the video. So powerful and awesome.

  • @jerrydc818
    @jerrydc818 2 года назад +6

    I’m not Native but this song hit me especially at 2:06 the power and intensity. Stay strong Native people

  • @andrewfrench5865
    @andrewfrench5865 4 года назад +4

    Goosebumps every single time I watch this.. love the energy they put in to this song.

  • @craigrobertson5030
    @craigrobertson5030 3 года назад +1

    From my heart the the grandmother's and mothers, grandfather's and fathers. From a Canadian born Scottish background man. You are worriors, sons of history. Love you all, that was power and grace packaged into AMAZING.

  • @sonnycayou1754
    @sonnycayou1754 3 года назад +2

    These are my adopted relatives. I have been honored to have sung with most of them. My Father called them brother and the Father Dad. Everytime I hear them, I cant stop the tears in my eyes or the war cry in my throat. A'HO A'GUDAHO....

  • @Bearwoman2024
    @Bearwoman2024 3 года назад +4

    I am Cree, this different to what I am used to, it is a very pleasant change. I loved it. I see your strong support behind the drum. 👍❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @simpleactive5730
    @simpleactive5730 4 года назад +11

    Speechless.... chills and heartwarming....

    • @camille7623
      @camille7623 3 года назад +1

      When I hear that drum I am happy w/ tears in my eyes ... ✌🏼❤️

  • @algonquinartist
    @algonquinartist 4 года назад +6

    Gotta love the Ol”Bull conducting.. hm an his partner leading this group.. good life

  • @johnmech5365
    @johnmech5365 2 года назад +1

    I from Greece but I love so much native American pow wow ❤️❤️❤️ from Greece 🇬🇷

  • @brwncrss1
    @brwncrss1 5 лет назад +6

    ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SONGS I EVER HEARD OF 🙏👋🏿😎

  • @AmigoKandu
    @AmigoKandu 4 года назад +27

    After filming all weekend, and running on fumes, a good victory song is a power-up! Goot one Cozad.

  • @marcelsaviomarino6055
    @marcelsaviomarino6055 5 лет назад +9

    MARAVILHOSO SOM, FANTÁSTICO, FAZ VIBRAR TODA A NATUREZA, MISTICO E ESPIRITUAL, PARABÉNS GUERREIROS.

  • @mysticwitch7071
    @mysticwitch7071 3 года назад +3

    I love this Song.... Respect for the Culture!💕🙏

  • @javierguzman7929
    @javierguzman7929 4 года назад +4

    Wow awesome very powerful it mess my heart vibrate and cry just beautiful feeling.

  • @spencerspottedhorse6630
    @spencerspottedhorse6630 7 лет назад +12

    It's really good to see my own relatives from home... I miss sing at the drum but life gos on.... Wells next time I'll see my folks give them a Hello.. Sure love miss my family the Cozads..

  • @martinthemillwright
    @martinthemillwright 2 года назад +1

    This true community spirit is what the world needs today. I’m not indigenous but even I can feel something healing and good in this. Thank you very much for posting this.

  • @vermo42
    @vermo42 Год назад +2

    I've no idea what they're singing but fuck me I can feel it. Respect from the west of Ireland

    • @TwistedCantQuickscope
      @TwistedCantQuickscope Год назад +1

      They are singing and chanting all about their families and finding footsteps of the ancestors. This music is used to heal the people.

    • @Press1for
      @Press1for 11 месяцев назад

      Good medicine

  • @TLan1
    @TLan1 Год назад +1

    This makes me so proud of the Native heritage I unfortunately don’t have. So beautiful and so powerful.

  • @moowin
    @moowin 6 лет назад +23

    1:48 mad respect for the grandfather (hacha)

  • @mr.x-file3122
    @mr.x-file3122 2 года назад +1

    Thrilling Sounds from the ❤️
    Thank You..got me ‘chicken pockets’!
    OldSchool Rules🙌🏻❤️🙌🏻

  • @Koga-kl4to
    @Koga-kl4to 4 года назад +1

    Reminds me of my grandfather singing drum. At my young age I never understood nor cared to understand the songs. Now I cherish every minute and every song. Let this tradition continue on.

  • @Kara-hp3ry
    @Kara-hp3ry 4 года назад +1

    That was uh-may-zing! You can feel the raw power and emotion. Just what I needed today 🖤🖤

  • @thisguyisawesome2288
    @thisguyisawesome2288 4 года назад +6

    Sent chills through my body!

  • @Gotwood-pc4vc
    @Gotwood-pc4vc 3 года назад +1

    Absolutely love this!!!!! You can feel the energy....

  • @Cali_boy13
    @Cali_boy13 3 года назад +1

    Thank you
    We haven't had a powwow in three years and this really brought back so many memories that I have cherished throughout my whole life. And no nobody asked, but yes I cried, but all good happy tears 👌🏻

  • @Aprils.life06
    @Aprils.life06 3 года назад +4

    If I heard this from my home I would be so excited and probably have an adrenaline rush

  • @katearicesspooch8906
    @katearicesspooch8906 3 года назад +4

    Its 2020 and I'm missing Pow wow Bros!!!

  • @masonmorgan4
    @masonmorgan4 2 года назад +1

    I don't know what else to call this other than a religious experience for those singing it certainly sounds like one native American music is easily some of the most beautiful music I've ever heard
    it's a damn shame my ancestors didn't respect and appreciate it like I do

  • @abriones1ab
    @abriones1ab 4 года назад +4

    The Elders are in full strength!

  • @reneuriartejr5764
    @reneuriartejr5764 Год назад +1

    Ani onk wisag a'an "I am hawk feathers" Ani onk akimel o'odham "I am salt river people". This song, this group helps my spirit. Can feel it in my bones.

  • @TwistedCantQuickscope
    @TwistedCantQuickscope Год назад

    The sound of indigenous music is amazing! Every time I hear the sounds and voices it reminds me of the people singing all about their families and following footsteps to find their ancestors that lived in the lands.

  • @adrianrosenlund-hudson8789
    @adrianrosenlund-hudson8789 2 года назад +1

    Absolutely fantastic. I play this when I work out. Incredibly empowering

  • @malotonga4957
    @malotonga4957 5 лет назад +4

    family over everything for sure love the vibe from this group from one brown person of tonga to the brown people of america ofa atu(love to you)

  • @jadewindom68
    @jadewindom68 6 месяцев назад

    I love 💕💕💕 this song, I always come back to it when I need it the most....

  • @rezmagician
    @rezmagician 4 года назад +5

    Thank you for the blessing Cozad

  • @user-xn7bc4hw9h
    @user-xn7bc4hw9h 3 месяца назад

    Something about seeing our elders singing our songs brings a tear to my eye they wasn't allowed to sing these songs growing up ... powerful

  • @tomdean513
    @tomdean513 7 лет назад +7

    Wow awsome singing......like the way the lead singer was dancing through the whole song

  • @clintonbird4625
    @clintonbird4625 2 года назад +1

    Love that southern style 👌

  • @ricardorangel7935
    @ricardorangel7935 5 месяцев назад

    As an indigenous mexican/ american chicano of Coahuiltecan Ancestry this hear sounds Beautiful much love to all my native brothers and sisters ✊🏽🪶

  • @kaganfox9828
    @kaganfox9828 5 лет назад +24

    That must be a thick hide. Their going to put a hole through that thing. Lol

  • @Nidels
    @Nidels 3 года назад +1

    The true essence of America. Fantastic.

  • @missannieshaw5874
    @missannieshaw5874 4 года назад +3

    Love this song and love to powwow hard feels great and respect to the elders

  • @joshuakwissiwa8108
    @joshuakwissiwa8108 3 года назад +1

    Beautiful song loved every second of it chi miigweetch men and women keep singing these powerful song’s

  • @rolandanielsjamie
    @rolandanielsjamie 2 года назад +1

    This is incredibly beautiful and makes my soul feel connected and whole. Thank you for your generosity in sharing this powerful song. We are one and no one can tell me different

  • @nonaeubinis7891
    @nonaeubinis7891 3 года назад +4

    Pure power!✊

  • @Gamers-504
    @Gamers-504 4 года назад +3

    Gave me chills! The good kind 🤩

  • @theomcgregor8897
    @theomcgregor8897 6 лет назад

    I love southern style contempt old style I love it all !!!!!And always will

  • @basc5026
    @basc5026 Год назад

    I know nothing about your culture and history but that made me feel emotions of pride, its a privilege to have seen this powerful part of your culture. Thank You from Australia...

  • @nicolewheeler9201
    @nicolewheeler9201 6 лет назад +4

    ♡,♡♡♡♡ this.
    So much energy!

  • @invaderzim5170
    @invaderzim5170 3 года назад +1

    One of the most powerful songs out there what I need to hear right now with the issues of indigenous people vs Canada going on right now

  • @minniemouska4320
    @minniemouska4320 3 года назад +1

    Beautiful and such POWER!

  • @MrBearacus
    @MrBearacus 3 года назад

    Took my breath away....my soul is breathing in me i feel love anger strength and peace at the same time