Another thing: Shane tried to say that the podcast clip was taken out of context, however if you listen to the full clip, there is absolutely zero indication that he’s joking. Also, he once unironically called a 6 year old sexy on the same podcast.
@@PeruvianPotato stop spreading false information, especially when you literally admit you couldn’t bother to check the rumor you heard before spreading it
@@hyjinx1889 First of all, my source was from a documentary by a channel called Joon the King about Shane Dawson's career. Second of all, said documentary stated that clip was noted by a edited video with cut outs and edited in music. Unless I got the wrong controversy, please tell me what I missed
@@PeruvianPotato I watched that video too, and he does not show evidence of such. Joon the King was obviously biased towards Shane Dawson throughout the entire video, complaining about Shane getting cancelled for racist comments he already apologized for and completely downplaying how severe it was, not to mention the other horrible stuff he’s done that was downplayed as well. I also just rewatched the reuploaded D’Angelo Wallace’s video on shane dawson, where he plays the clip in it’s entirety, and at no point does he say that he is joking. Nice try though.
@YeaMan You've been spelling the word page wrong for like a year now. Do you have a functioning brain? (and nobody tell me this is a bot this guy actually posts these comments manually trust me lol)
2:23 that clip of him saying he came all over the cat does not sound like a joke at all, but more of a confession. I could be getting it wrong, but I know it sounded way too genuine.
Lessons to take from Shane Dawson: 1. Don't splooge on your cat 2. Don't splooge on your cat 3. Do *not* splooge on your cat 4. Cease and desist from spelunking on your feline 5. Don't be Shane Dawson 6. If you're Shane Dawson, don't be
I've literally done this every day for the past 24 years! I was never once Shane Dawson, I'm not a successful RUclipsr but I'm just gonna trust the method and keep at it 🙌
You missed the biggest piece of this puzzle. What really helped catapult his manhunt and “cancellation” was the fact that he got involved with James and Jeffrey. And he went on a Instagram story rant about James (after he responded to Tati and Jeffrey after the “Bye Sister” scandal and came with receipts, leading to the public forgiving him at that time) and said that James needed a “slice of humble pie the size of the Eiffel Tower.” That’s when people really started to dig into his history.
yeah that Jeffrey, James and Tati was the beginning of the end, saying that shit about James needing the humble pie when James (I don’t like him) expressed how he almost committed suicide because of the hate.
Which is ridiculous because both Charles and Jeffery are predators who prey on children. Yet people only went after Shane once he pointed that fact out (at least about James, hes still quite about Jeffrey). Like don't get me wrong Shane needed to be gone after, but the fact people only started to care when their "uwu gnc gay baby" was being rightfully called out is just stupid.
If you think telling a "fake" story about doing that with a cat would make for a funny moment, then you've got some seriously twisted things going on in your mind, imo.
That's just the internet. People still attack Callmecarson for his controversy yet somehow EDP445 and James Charles are off the hook? I wonder how that even happens.
Shane saying “I don’t ever want you to feel like I’m forcing you to forgive me” is ironic given that in every single recent video of his since he’s returned he’s joking and complaining about being cancelled, sympathy baiting about how negatively it effected him, and how he wants people to move on even though he can’t seem to move past it himself. Also, huge shoutout for featuring Nick DiRamio in this video. He opened my eyes to how TRULY lazy, low effort, and boring Shane’s videos are and how they’ve always been this way
Dude this shit drives me nuts what do you expect him to do have like a whole PowerPoint presentation? It’s RUclips people get paid for just showing their cats on screen why are you acting like this is the first time someone’s made a lazy video
@@kateapple1 PowerPoint presentation-what??? If you watch Nick’s videos on Shane, you’ll know the problems are much more than just “showing his cat.” But go off, ig.
@Burrito Supreme I’ll never understand how someone could be stupid enough to try to excuse Shane’s child abuse with “you guys are way too soft” like all that does is make you look like a disgusting freak
I mean he was a shock RUclipsr. And it wasn’t out of the realm of other disgusting jokes he’s made. Not saying it actually was a joke, but I don’t find it beyond the realm of possibility.
No it wasnt. I dont think people get that that didnt grew up watching him. Theres other terrible stuff he said and I laughed at all of it when I was in my early teens. Why do you think he got so insanely popular People laughed at all the ridiculous shit he put out there.
That’s what I don’t get. Even as a joke, sexual activity with animals would never be a punchline that I can come up with. Why was THAT the first thing he thought of?
Ironic, Shane Dawson spent the last few years of his career resurrecting the careers of people who didn't deserve a second chance, and in the end couldn't resurrect his own career....But no seriously, this is karma for helping keep Tana Mongoose relevant and "fixing" her reputation.
When he was on hiatus, he could have used the money that he clearly has on creative writing classes, visual story telling lessons, video editing, comedy classes, etc. He could have come back with good content and most people who have been exhausted over him as a topic wouldn't have been so harsh, wouldn't have been as upset because he would have shown that he was trying to better himself, that he had actually grown and learned something. But no, in the very first vid back he says, "I didn't learn anything," and boy is that true.
You basically described what Logan Paul did in his comeback. I don’t watch him but I see him all the time in shorts now and he seemed to have done a 180 from his old content
I stumbled upon his videos since he was nobody. It was around Jenna Marbles was still new too. His old contents mostly was like what it was shown here. Same with Jenna, some of his contents weren't that mature, insulting people as joke, 'funny' sexual jokes and such. Then for a long time, I never heard from them both probably because RUclips algorithm. Then I was kinda surprised that they become so famous and their old videos vanished. The difference is Jenna did apologise sincerely because of her teenage immaturity and just stopped making RUclips.
I feel like most fans do know what they want. They want the "old" Shane back, someone who's moved on, not someone who's mind is still on one and a half year old drama. Even if he came back like he used to be, the "culture" of RUclips has shifted a lot (it's much less tolerable to offensive jokes and such), and neglecting your channel for over 18 months doesn't help either.
Oooor, fans just don't want a cringe, lazy (and possibly mentally deranged) youtuber to follow? That's today standards at least. What mesmerises me is how did he got so popular in the past? Were the die hard old times fans really that much into this guy? Nothing seems special about him except being annoying. So yeah, the old fan base scares me, the ones who made him famous over mediocre creations
Just a small point, I think a lot of the reason why his “taking accountability” video was so badly received was because Jenna Marbles had just released her own taking accountability video just prior. Hers was seen as honest & as an effort to truly take accountability and his seemed as if it was copying hers in an effort to get the same sort of emotional response. There were A LOT of comparisons between the two videos at the time, and accusations of him trying to essentially gain the sort of sympathy that Jenna’s video had generated.
That's exactly it! Jenna's video was clearly sincere and heartfelt, and then not even three days later Shane went "WeLL, I cAn MaKe OnE tOo" Like, he was clearly doing it for internet brownie points; he just had the most hilariously bad timing imaginable (e.g. the Willow Smith incident resurfacing, the Tati Westbrook video, etc.)
It also doesn't help that Jenna actually committed to stepping away from youtube, which was touchy for a lot of people because they believed her mistakes (while they did need to be addressed) didn't warrant her losing her platform. Shane on the other hand, who is clearly not sorry for all of his offensive and predatory content, really thought he could "cancel me, I deserve it :(" his way out of the controversy, but wasn't prepared for people to respond accordingly. Even when he did remove himself from RUclips, he didn't respect his hiatus by making appearances in Ryland's videos. I still watch Julien's content, and while he talks about Jenna in passing here and there, she never personally shows up in his content.
It doesn’t help that he lost Andrew. As well as Drew and Garret who all had a huge impact on his videos for such a long time. Shane and Ryland just aren’t interesting enough on their own. Their friend group was truly what made those old Shane videos so enjoyable.
@@jlouiseknust i haven’t completely kept up either. As far as I’m aware they just kind of… quietly stepped back and pursued their own projects. I don’t think there was any public drama
You can tell a lot about a person from the company they keep, and I think the fact he's kept Jeffree around speaks volumes within itself. He hasn't grown, he hasn't learned from his mistakes, and both of them probably have the same narrowminded, "holier than thou" mindset that they've always had. It makes me so sad because I grew up watching Shane, but now the sight of him makes me feel so gross.
I remember when I first saw he returned and was getting the positivity and praise he was getting made me absolutely sick to my stomach. I don’t believe in canceling people over something they tweeted once or twice 6 years ago, but when it was, or rather is, a constant pattern in behavior, it gets to a point where it’s clearly just who they are.
100%. I listened to his podcast within hours of its release, all 200ish episodes. I thought they were funny but they did have odd moments where the co host tried to push through but shane didnt. Lots weird. It wasnt just one thing, like you said, its a pattern
Preforming sexual acts with your cat I think is a good enough reason to be permanently canceled. If anything he should be locked up in a nut house where he won’t be danger to other people, or cats
@@Lawrence_Talbotwas there ACTUAL sexual acts with his cat? I mean actual evidence video? Or just crude jokes that people usually find funny? I don’t understand this canceling thing unless it’s really truly dire and hard proof or evidence of it, what substance does saying “mean” or “offensive” jokes in 2009 to cancel someone?
Shane absolutely did not mean that confession as a joke. He has the nervous energy, self justification, uneasy guilt and generally hesitant yet overly open atmosphere of someone snitching on themselves.
Yeah but a person who doesn't fuck animals isn't going to out and say they harmed an animal. The type of person that would though, is the person who HAS or has thought about it. Which hello biggest red flag indicator. Stop supporting predators, this is how pedos go under the radar.
The nervous laughter you could just hear that he was begging for them to join in but realized they were not validating his behavior as quirky and funny.
I find it odd that you would rather believe someone nonchalantly talked about sexually abusing their cat on a podcast for millions to hear than believe it was just a dumb kid whose entire personality was shock value humor taking a gross joke too far.
My stomach twisted and I felt SICK when Shane Dawson talked about abusing his cat. No one could have just thought that shit up for humor or shock value.
Are you being for real or is that a lame attempt at a joke, itself? Shock value humor has been around for a long time, and has seen jokes much much worse than that?
@@thestanley2692 people with a brain. Anyone informed on the situation sees how much nonsense and biased information is in this video, *and how much information was blatantly left out.* Sunny is a supporter of Shane and thus didn’t mention quite a bit of the predatory instances he’s been called out for
He's always used humor to lessen what he says and it's disgusting. I even knew watching when it was younger and didn't know why I didn't stop watching him prior
I hate the implication that SD's mediocre return was predominantly due to form, and not the weird and gross things he did that got him cancelled in the first place. I feel like the, "don't make a big deal, just keep streaming and produce good content" argument work well for Carson, where I don't think what he did was that bad; and of very recent history the same with Mizkif and Maya. SD is the wrong person to apply the argument to.
@@lazyhazy7 that's the problem we don't know if he's joking or not atleast I don't know Either way never watched his content to begin with so I don't know him well
The problem I have w/ Shane currently is that he says he’s “too sensitive” for what was happening and pulled a victim card yet the things he said and done does not imply sensitivity. His actions don’t line up w/ his words.
I started watching D’Angello before all the controversy. He did good with videos, had a comfortable easy-going style to him :) knew he would be successful
If I were there during that cat confession I would straight up walk out. That’s so nasty and the fact he’s trying to frame it as a silly anecdote is insane. What he did WAS illegal. It’s disgusting
It blows my mind that he said that was such confidence. And then all of a sudden, realizes he’s been exposed, and denies everything. What’s up with popular RUclipsrs being complete freaks, pedophiles, or just creepy as hell?
I was just thinking about that. So many people that fat famous turn out to have some serious bones in their closet. I wonder how all these terrible people are becoming famous.
Honestly, I used to think money didn't corrupt as much as we like to say it does, but it's happening so much that it can't be a coincidence. Money, fame, and power really do make people play out those evil thoughts that some people have but then ignore because of morals or just knowing they could get caught. Meanwhile, the rich and famous are surrounded by people who say "do whatever you want" and "follow your heart" and they know they can just buy their way out of getting in trouble for it. The amount of celebrities who are openly or at least hint at being terrible people (jerks, rapists, bullies, abusers) is getting so long that I've stopped supporting Hollywood entirely.
I don't think all of them are actually pedophiles, just using their platform and fame to manipulate people who are young, dumb and not developed enough to realize what's going on and so they take advantage of that
Probably kids who want to be “edgy” and watch the guy who did the worst stuff! Cancelled 6 times! Said the N word! Talked about sex with his tween cousin! Meanwhile I guess they’ll eventually give up because it’s boring kitchen whining. Then the ones who think they owe it to him because “He” helped them through a hard time when they were younger. Not realizing he was doing his job, to make money, period. And over the years adopt the big 3 he can manipulate them with. SA, suicide (incl depression) body issues.
@@DemonZest well the cat thing is just over the top. I can laugh alot of things off and most of the time these people getting cancelled is stupid and I don't support thst crap. However the cat deal is just to close to beastieality ! Sorry I can't laugh about that at all
@@DemonZest in all joking aside there are lots of crazy things to joke about. Getting off on your cats fur is just going to far. Nothing funny about thst
Normal people's joke: a priest, a Banker, and a cop went to a Bar... Shane's jokes: i came on a cat and i'm into kids. If it happened or not, he'd catch hands for that
@@cleanmvp1879 tbh i don't think i know any normal people jokes that are not straight up cringe. Like: what do you name a mushroom hopping around in a forest? A jumpingnon.
4 million is still way more than he deserves. If only RUclips could take some of the viewership from creeps like Shane and redistribute them to smaller RUclipsrs. Considering how difficult it is to break through the algorithm at this point, it would be very appreciated.
Honestly I don’t see why people ever liked him in the first place, he’s clearly insecure and instead of taking the steps to build up his ego in a healthy way, he sulks about the same things for years on end while calling himself an empath.
I can understand why younger people would've thought his earlier content was funny, but I don't understand why he's held on to an audience for so long.
@@FrenkTheJoy I watched his spooky doc content but I liked Garrett a lot more and then it kinda felt like shame was always putting him down and/or trying be act like him?! I’m not fixing the typo it’s appropriate lol
And also kinda being rude to the people around him, right? I don’t know for sure about now, but the way he treated his old assistant back in the day and made anti-Semitic jokes about her (iirc) made him seem like a bully, too.
when i was an insecure, bullied, mentally ill tween, i loved him because he seemed authentic compared to other celebs at the time and never shied away from talking about those issues. but at the same time i feel like because his fans connected with him so much, he was able to manipulate that parasocial relationship to a point where his fans felt obligated to comfort him and hype him up and defend him against people they perceived as bullying him because they were scared he would have a mental breakdown or harm himself. like when you combine the fact that some of his videos could actually be pretty entertaining and high effort with the 15 year long parasocial relationship he had with his fans, it honestly makes a lot of sense why people put up with him for so long
My friend highly recommended Shane Dawson when I was in the prime demographic of his early content. A young, edgy teen girl. I watched 2 videos. One was about the only joke being throwing cat poop nonstop. The second was blackface. I considered him a “bad RUclipsr” after that and stuck to NigaHiga and Jenna Marbles.
People calling themselves empaths usually aren’t. Just like people saying they never lie, are nice etc. You shouldn’t have to proclaim those things about yourself, people will know.
too be perfectly honest I have no clue what the fuck an empath is, like I know what word it is derived from so I can hazard a guess but like.... that just sounds and seems like a thing made up to make being a normal human that can empathize with others seem like a special thing, like no.... not feeling empathy towards others is what is special and that's usually called being a psychopath
@@kendoll4127 because people use that and it’s their like whole personality. Everyone has empathic ability, except like serial killers lol. People who really do have gifts don’t like talking about them, because it isn’t what people think it is. That’s why it’s so cringe.
If I were him I’d just retire and get out of the spotlight. Millions of dollars and lots of time to focus on family and hobbies. But that’s not what fuels him and I think it’s the same thing that fuels a lot of RUclipsrs - fame and notoriety. They all seek validation and external support and that’s what so many of them crave, so I don’t think he’d ever stop creating content of some kind.
I think if he was smart he would focus on making documentaries but not that feature him, he could still make videos but take himself out of focus because nobody thinks he is genuine or caring anymore....
All he has to do is retire from RUclips, leave his videos up so he can collect ad revenue, purchase a few properties to rent out for a stable income stream, and hire someone else to manage his rentals/tenants. He could literally just retire early, mind his business, and spend time with his family/friends etc, but he insists on being in the spotlight due to egotism/etc. Like, I hate him, and I think he deserves to have to become a normal member of society + work for a living like the average person, but he isn't even at that point yet! He could just cut his losses and DIP with enough money/resources to maintain his lifestyle, just without filming himself or getting so much attention, but he won't, and that's just going to make things worse for him 🙄
I think he’s a narcissist or sociopath. It’s been his “personality” and he has nothing else to become. It seems it was his friends that were funny. We saw the mask slip on that live when Tati mentions sexual assault and his words “I’M the one who was molested” like she took something that he earned and the well,no actual story, it was suggested by Katie after a quiz. Number 1, there is no quiz to test if you were molested, but if you saw how he jumped at the very mention on empathy to self diagnose himself an empath (another personality he took on as both the molest (which in his book he said he was never molested. It’s like I think a kink to him. The kids sex jokes, the puppet, the cousin). He decided because he didn’t like his face getting wet then it MUST be because he has a sweaty man on him. And the 3rd in his collection “suicide”. As someone who has attempted, who thinks about it daily, there is nothing to joke about. I get thru everything with humour but also having a close family member that did and succeeded, it’s not funny. These are also things he can manipulate his audience with to buy crap or get out of trouble. A lot of trouble others have lost their channel for.
For the people that say it’s in the past and we are too sensitive nowadays, his older videos from the early 2010s got his parents fired from their jobs.
it is in the past though, i'm not defending him but people who say that are right though, not only talking about shane, but people are digging so far in the history of some people just to cancel them, past is past, there is no way to go back in time and change it, and somehow people are dumb enough not to know that people can change, they could find a 30 year old video of eminem saying the n'word or something and cancel him for that
@@dxst5911 Personally, I think that cancel culture has done more good than bad. The problem is that celebrities are working their butts off and spending huge amounts of time and money to turn people against 'cancelling', which is why people are always saying "OMG!! CANCEL CULTURE HAS GONE TOO FAR!! LOOK AT THIS CELEBRITY, HE'S CRYING!!"
Like there is a way to make the story “funny” (well as funny as something like that can be). He can easily told the story as “when I come my cat came out and I accidentally cum on it” and then showing him freaking out and feeling bad about it.
You can just TELL that he was being completely honest when talking about the cat incident. Big difference between making up a story on the fly, and confessing to something. God, he’s disgusting. 🙄
@@greyishboy if I go out in public and scream "I killed my cat" whilst also describing how I did it, people will believe me until they actually see that the cat is alive.
He was a shitty person who succeeded in rebranding himself as the nicest, most sensitive person on RUclips and with this, he attracted a bunch of people who didn't know his origin story. And then he got found out again, and this rebranding effort crumbled like a house of cards. He was selling his personality, and it turned out it was all fake. He just doesn't have mainstream appeal anymore, and he got to keep only his core audience, because the formerly casual viewers feel sick upon the sight of him
I don't know why people even support him anymore. As children we're taught just because someone is nice doesn't mean they're a good person. Sad that's been forgotten for influences. Edit: imagine getting so upset that you go out your way to condone and excuse him. Cause that's what's in this thread 🙄
Imo he is still funny and for the cat thing it just seems like a really trash joke. I feel like most of it was just trash jokes as well. People will dig everything and find anything they can get offended about even if it was years ago and was clearly said in a jokeful manner.
I’m guessing some just care about content rather than who’s producing it. Like on a post about the fairlife milk farms abusing cows but half the comments are stuff like, “still good though” “that shit slaps” “who cares”.
@@0subsWith0vidsChallenge Maybe it's just me, but there isn't really anything funny about doing blackface and parading around a racist caricature to mock black women.
The OBSERVE channel did a full analysis of Shane's apology video and pointed out something really interesting - the number of cuts in the video. As I watched the full version uploaded by Shane, I noticed just how insincere the apology actually felt
I personally have never liked Shane Dawson. He looks like the type to act like he’s a nice and generous person, but when the cameras are off, he acts the complete opposite. He just has a deceptive aura.
im happy he's lost 90% of his viewers but the fact he's still getting millions is shocking. i know it's probably mostly kids (which is concerning considering his predatory behavior) but im so disgusted by people who still watch him. i just can't forgive everything he's done and filmed for "entertainment" no matter how much time has passed. it's just so disgusting. and i am so concerned about him having a child :( he can barely take care of himself
This is a problem with this channels "never apologize for being controversial" take. It ignores when people have gone too far. It also defends putting in absolutely zero effort (like when that one chick was so racist that she called people a n-word lover, and didn't even bother to write her own apology) saying people should just forgive. It's simple, if you want people to believe that you've changed, then be proactive in pointing it out, don't wait until people open the closet and find all the skeletons themselves. Liam Neeson did that, and sure some people were initially mad but nobody has a problem with him nowadays.
Tbf it's still very steep downhill since he usually got 15-50 million views per video, even tho he still gains a lot of money despite those "low" numbers, and now in every his new videos he alwasy lost views from 500k to 1 million, it's just about time when his channel completely dries up.
I mean surely if the audience currently consists of "mostly kids" then the cliche growing up phase will disconnect them from his channel as they move on and lose interest over time, that would eventually just leave shane with nothing. How many youtubers that you watched as a kid are you still watching to this day? case and point.
I never watched Shane Dawson, but listening to him here I’m genuinely wondering. How were tens of millions people okay with listening to this man for _40+_ minutes on end? I know this is him at his worst, but I struggled even to watch those short clips. Was he really that good back in his heyday?
he really was that good back in his hayday 😭 those videos of him doing blackface & harrassing children were from the early 2010s, so myself & many other previous fans were completely unaware of this behaviour until 2020. i knew of the cat incident as well, but never heard the audio until today. back in like 2016-2018, he made really captivating videos of different conspiracy theories, & (biased) documentaries about other online stars / influencers.
I never understood the hype hey, but I've never been a fan of YTbers like James Charles, Jeffry Star, Tanya or Logan brothers etc... All seem like cringey, edgelord creators to me. I like informative videos, not memes over 2 hours lol
@@shaina8947 He always gave me creep vibes I'm always surprises when people say they didn't know about him because I remember being the grade school and people loving his Shnaynay videos and what not To be clear I'm not saying I don't believe you! Just that it surprises me
U act like he messaged minors If you seen 12 yr olds you would know that joke was nothing 12 yr olds joke about stuff even worse than that all the time and this is 100% true
What did he even get "famous" for? Like, I know of him from all the controversies he's been in... But other than that, Have no idea what the hell he did on the channel.
@@alfreddrewes9362 Originally, like in the early 2010s he made super edgy skits back when people liked that stuff, and before he was cancelled his most popular videos were his documentaries about other youtubers
As someone who grew up watching his conspiracy theories, as a kid I always questioned if these were theory’s or a loop hole for manipulating his audience, looking back it makes a lot more sense, his extremely manipulative over his audience and fortunately his ‘sad sappy’ innocence persona is no longer serving him any favours, it still angers me he has a huge audience that blindly support him
If you lived through OG youtube you’ll kind of get it, shock/offensive content were doing really well back then, the social media culture has just changed and those who can’t adapt will fall. Tbh I think shane adapted quite well before his past caught up with him
@@joesr31 i am the most OG youtube user there is. His content seemed fake and lame. And I got pedo vibes later on. I knew there was an audience for him but it genuinely shocked me how big. Glad he's done.
I remember being really young and being weirded out by his content, but under the misguided 7 year old assumption that he was “just joking” I didn’t really think too hard about it at the time. Now as an adult I analyze EVERYTHING, it’s so clear to me how insufferably racist and predatory he was, but at 7, I didn’t even know 1/4 of the words adults used, I didn’t understand the nuances of racism or that I had ever experienced it myself. It’s that childlike innocence and ignorance coupled with the bright colors, costumes, and videos that were made specifically to look appealing to younger audiences. At a certain point he DID attempt to cover up his past and change his image, which I think kept a lot of his fans supporting him because as they grew up, his content was less and less obviously horrific. I’d say he got popular from a mix of luck, attention seeking, drawing in viewers with shock value, and specifically having a target demographic of young kids
I was so shocked when people were fawning over Shane like he was a Good Soft Boi. All I knew of him was really shitty humour, blackface and those fucking ugly bangs. Then there was a period where everyone thought he was such a great guy and then they were shocked that things came up? Like... This wasn't deeply buried controversy, it was all right there on his channel but ok. At least I get Nick Diramio content from it.
@@jamo3157 Nick is basically this reviewer guy on RUclips. He basically reviewed a lot of Shane’s movies and short films he released (but I think later deleted after the controversy) back in the early 2010’s. He’s very funny, would recommend a watch👍🏼
I think it's ironic that years ago when I bought It Gets Worse, my cat climbed on my shelf and had diarrhea all over it before i could finish reading it lmao
I second this! I did not ever like shane dawson. Felt very uncomfortable watching his videos for reasons I cannot explain now and felt his jokes were gross, and over the top. I would even watch pewdiepie and jack with their humour back in that day but I would have a problem with Shane if that tells you anything.
Yes!!! I remember him back then, he was so gross! I was so surprised when he rose to fame. I didn’t understand why he’d be so famous. I clicked on one of his videos after 7 or 8 years and it’s like he was a completely different person. I had a feeling that his new audience didn’t know about his yucky past. He hid it well for a while, but it sure came back to bite him
I liked him back then, the skits were funny and obviously it was characters. I just don't appreciate the baby comments and questionable grooming behavior.
These breakdowns are so good Sunny. You go into so much detail about things I wouldn’t even think about. (Shane’s body language, him joking about his lack of commitment, etc.) The internet was a definitely a different place 10 years ago but some of his jokes/ actions were STILL a lil out of pocket. I don’t think his mistakes should be held over his head for the rest of his career though. Hopefully he can move on, get back on his grind, and maybe learn to ignore the negativity when it resurfaces. I wanna see him back on top over the next couple years.
It'd be nice if there were a full video talking about how to not get cancelled, even though the bulk of it would be to not react to the dumb teenagers who are having a meltdown over nothing. It seems Jake Paul is the only person I can think of who doesn't address any controversies and they seem to go away nearly instantly.
I mean…. I’ve made a lot of mistakes in life, but I’ve never accidentally done blackface. Kinda seems like he was purposefully profiting off nonstop racism. But that’s just my opinion.
He was always toxic and always a terrible person but none of my friends would listen. 🤷🏻♂ Even if by some miracle he actually was joking, they are things you don't joke about and things that should just not be said. Instead of fearing and doing a hasty apology just to cover your butt and keep going on, just don't say the stuff the begin with.
I remember a clip of him with that same 12 year old where he mentioned she may become pregnant after using the bathroom after Shane left some “cream cheese” on the toilet seat. That was the last time I ever watched one of his videos ever.
I'm shocked it took people so long to realize Shane was an actual predator before. He gave off weird vibes like "Onion Boy" Onision in his older videos. As a kid, I had a weird feeling about both of them.
I still don’t get how people think returning after receiving hate on a massive scale is a good idea. They act like everyone will forgive them as time goes on. Unbelievable.
It’s because of the “all attention is good attention” mindset. Nikita Dragun, Tana Mongoue, Jeffrey Star, James Charles, and the Kar-Jenners are a great example of this because their careers thrive off of drama and controversy. Some one like Taylor Swift could never get away with this, but the people I mentioned do because they’ve set themselves up to be portrayed this way. That’s why no matter how much drama these people get into their fans will always support them because they like the drama and controversy as well.
Ive never liked Shane; my first encounters with him were back when he was doing blackface and i never trusted him since. Im glad younger people are finally accepting how abhorrent he is.
I think a lot of it has to do with his “I was young and stupid” not flying anymore. His young audience is now the age he was when those videos were made. And they know how terrible they (the videos) are and see him not doing anything to actually atone for it.
Everyone knows Dane Shawson was his peak. We all know why he got the pass and why everyone was handling him with kid gloves before the most recent controversy.
@@flixs1353 perhaps atone isn’t the right word. But he apologized but doesn’t do anything. The videos he apologized for were still up on his channel (not sure if they still are) and it was very recently he was selling merch of stereotypical characters.
The thing with Shane is, he's messed up either way. Even if it was just for shock value. If u think that being predetory, being racist or beastiality is funny, than u have mad issues. He just keeps thinking he can cime back. How much must one mess up to finally Exit and leave olthe ppl alone. Like dang
I'm a firm believer that anything can be funny in the right context. If someone wants to make a joke about darker, more taboo subject matter, then they should be free to do so and I don't think it inherently means someone has issues or is a bad person. That said, a joke based on darker subjects has to not only actually be funny and told at the right moment, because it will be seen as distasteful otherwise, but it also needs to be clear that it's just a joke. Many of Shane's "jokes" about pedophilia, bestiality, and racism wouldn't have been viewed so negatively if there weren't so many videos/voice clips of him engaging in predatory/questionable behavior while he isn't playing a character. Based on many clips that I had seen, he also often made no real indication that he was joking about any of the things he said for "shock value", as he claims. So they don't come off as "ah, Shane's just bein' silly and dumb LOL" and more like "this dude has no filter and is now telling me these incredibly weird and gross things he has done". It makes it seem less like absurd humor and more like a bungled confession. That's my take on it, at least. I was never a regular viewer of Shane Dawson's content, so I have to look at this sorta' from an outsider's perspective.
@@kingstarscream3807 spite? It's just a fact. Being racist and a pedo amd alegendly abusing animals is not ok. It's not just ppl hating. It's actually disgusting stuff
I have to say I love your voice. A lot of RUclipsrs try and sound dramatic when talking about this stuff and it gets annoying but you're very straight forward and it's calming to listen to
Be glad you didn't watch the videos where he showed himself on camera and really unsettlingly stared into your soul while forcing hand gestures, with awkward framing. It really made me so uncomfortable.
I’m not going to give Shane Dawson the cancel culture treatment here. The stuff he did with his 9 year old cousin (like having her give him a lap dance) is gross. And the baby thing he said on podcast. Whatever is wrong with him is deeper than “just being offensive in the past” and I can’t support it.
His entire gimmick is ironic. His whole draw was the controversial, edgy, bad taste videos, then society changed and called him out for it. Now he doesn't know how to move forward. He's got a lot of issues to work through.
Society hasn't really changed that much. The vast majority of normal people still enjoy edgy humor. Woke Twitter mobs and crying RUclipsrs form a vocal minority.
@@kingstarscream3807 it's ironic that you say it's woke twitter and crying youtubers criticizing him when you're defending him tooth and nail under every comment like you're his boyfriend
@@zachariah7114 why are y'all bringing politics into it... dumb asf. Shane is a bad person end of story y'all need to stop making it about how much you hate the left wing . so stupid tf
Sunny, would you be able to do a video on Jenna Marbles?? Would love to hear more about why she went off the internet from your POV! Thank you for posting great and unbiased content, keep up the good work!
It's not unbiased at all. He obviously hates some of these creator's. Did you not watch him try and bring down Ninja? You could here the hate in his voice.
It's so weird to me that youtubers can get away with almost anything and brush it off as "drama", while they would most probably be imprisoned if they didn't have that kind of status.
As someone who can be very callous and harsh it makes me feel relieved that I'll likely never be in a position where the internet can judge me and dredge yo my past. I certainly wouldn't be apologizing, that's your first mistake when addressing a mob.
I read It Gets Worse a long while ago and really loved it, didn't find out about the racial controversy until a couple days after I had already read the book. I feel so betrayed to this day that the man who was very briefly one of my favorite authors would do and say such stupid shit
I also remember that clip of him being told about a little baby being raped to death and he was so excited by it 🤮 absolutely revolting person. He shouldn't be near children ever.
I honestly feel really grossed out to have ever watched Shane. Though I was young and dumb and never able to tell weird stuff or understand 'drama'. Somewhat related, I'd love to see a video covering iAmCyr, who is just....an absolute creep. Disgusting guy
Same! I didn't realize that the character (at 4:04) was a parody of black women. The last straw for me was a skit where the teacher character instructs a student in graphic detail how to slit your wrists (it was taken off by YT). That was before the black face and the really messed up pedo videos. The cat thing was clearly NOT a joke, and even if it was how sick must you be to make up something like that on the fly? He keeps painting himself (or make others do it) as this oh so sensitive and good person, when he's just one messed up individual. If you're such a good person and an "empath", you don't have to say it constantly!
Before even watching the video let me guess - He "failed" cause he's an actual creep that never genuinely apologized or took accountability for the disgusting stuff he put out. I don't care if it was for shock value, if kids are involved and talked about in this way, it's fucking inappropriate.
Another thing: Shane tried to say that the podcast clip was taken out of context, however if you listen to the full clip, there is absolutely zero indication that he’s joking. Also, he once unironically called a 6 year old sexy on the same podcast.
I think the 6 year old one was edited at least that's what I heard from another video but yea no excuses for the cat shit
@@PeruvianPotato It was not edited, it was 100% said by him on his podcast, I distinctly remember hearing it when it first came out
@@PeruvianPotato stop spreading false information, especially when you literally admit you couldn’t bother to check the rumor you heard before spreading it
@@hyjinx1889 First of all, my source was from a documentary by a channel called Joon the King about Shane Dawson's career. Second of all, said documentary stated that clip was noted by a edited video with cut outs and edited in music. Unless I got the wrong controversy, please tell me what I missed
@@PeruvianPotato I watched that video too, and he does not show evidence of such. Joon the King was obviously biased towards Shane Dawson throughout the entire video, complaining about Shane getting cancelled for racist comments he already apologized for and completely downplaying how severe it was, not to mention the other horrible stuff he’s done that was downplayed as well. I also just rewatched the reuploaded D’Angelo Wallace’s video on shane dawson, where he plays the clip in it’s entirety, and at no point does he say that he is joking. Nice try though.
It’s crazy that getting only 2-4 million views per video is a severe flop for him. He was really the king of youtube for a while.
"King of youtube" lmao you got me there🤣🤣
Thinking this too
@don't be surprised FR? On God? It's finally here?
Even in the grand scheme of things, those are still good views
@YeaMan You've been spelling the word page wrong for like a year now. Do you have a functioning brain? (and nobody tell me this is a bot this guy actually posts these comments manually trust me lol)
2:23 that clip of him saying he came all over the cat does not sound like a joke at all, but more of a confession. I could be getting it wrong, but I know it sounded way too genuine.
i guess that was his humor
Exactly. It was absolutely disgusting.
F*cking disgusting. This is the society we share and live in today. 🤦♂
Same, it sounded as if he was talking normally which did not help his case at all
you still comment everywhere huh cool
Lessons to take from Shane Dawson:
1. Don't splooge on your cat
2. Don't splooge on your cat
3. Do *not* splooge on your cat
4. Cease and desist from spelunking on your feline
5. Don't be Shane Dawson
6. If you're Shane Dawson, don't be
Spelunking 💀
What a funny little word
Not right word for it but it’s funny so I like this comment
You missed one: "Don't hump your cat."
I've literally done this every day for the past 24 years! I was never once Shane Dawson, I'm not a successful RUclipsr but I'm just gonna trust the method and keep at it 🙌
You missed the biggest piece of this puzzle. What really helped catapult his manhunt and “cancellation” was the fact that he got involved with James and Jeffrey. And he went on a Instagram story rant about James (after he responded to Tati and Jeffrey after the “Bye Sister” scandal and came with receipts, leading to the public forgiving him at that time) and said that James needed a “slice of humble pie the size of the Eiffel Tower.” That’s when people really started to dig into his history.
its here finnally
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And that weird manic live stream he did on Instagram calling Tati a liar, that’s what I remember being the catalyst of his past resurfacing
@@harper2226 Sounds like a real life "those who live in glass houses" metaphor.
yeah that Jeffrey, James and Tati was the beginning of the end, saying that shit about James needing the humble pie when James (I don’t like him) expressed how he almost committed suicide because of the hate.
Which is ridiculous because both Charles and Jeffery are predators who prey on children. Yet people only went after Shane once he pointed that fact out (at least about James, hes still quite about Jeffrey).
Like don't get me wrong Shane needed to be gone after, but the fact people only started to care when their "uwu gnc gay baby" was being rightfully called out is just stupid.
If you think telling a "fake" story about doing that with a cat would make for a funny moment, then you've got some seriously twisted things going on in your mind, imo.
what
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Elaboration
I think he's talking about the cat story, guys
it was a haha funny moment tho
He's not trying to force people to forgive him. He's trying to manipulate them and get pity when that's inappropriate given the circumstances.
Manipulation is inappropriate given the circumstances? Its quite wrong regardless the situation no?
He is trying to force… …..himself on a cat
Pretty common in that community tbh. They always see themselves as the victims, never take responsibility for their actions. Sick freaks
what did he do? it's a skit
@@Himerosteam don’t even your such a werido
I'm surprised that some people think they can easily return to RUclips after the massive controversy they were previously in
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He was hoping people would forget and that his most loyal fans would accept the bare minimum.
Lets be honest we all enjoyed this video by having this:
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Like sienna mae
That's just the internet. People still attack Callmecarson for his controversy yet somehow EDP445 and James Charles are off the hook? I wonder how that even happens.
Shane saying “I don’t ever want you to feel like I’m forcing you to forgive me” is ironic given that in every single recent video of his since he’s returned he’s joking and complaining about being cancelled, sympathy baiting about how negatively it effected him, and how he wants people to move on even though he can’t seem to move past it himself.
Also, huge shoutout for featuring Nick DiRamio in this video. He opened my eyes to how TRULY lazy, low effort, and boring Shane’s videos are and how they’ve always been this way
Dude this shit drives me nuts what do you expect him to do have like a whole PowerPoint presentation? It’s RUclips people get paid for just showing their cats on screen why are you acting like this is the first time someone’s made a lazy video
It's so funny seeing people talking about how bad a person's videos were after they got cancelled and not before
@@kateapple1 true these people are dum in my eyes he did nothing wrong don't know how people think he did anything bad
@Just anything happens Here's a list of people who care
@@kateapple1 PowerPoint presentation-what??? If you watch Nick’s videos on Shane, you’ll know the problems are much more than just “showing his cat.” But go off, ig.
Shane is the embodiment of a child yelling FUCK and then saying "I said fudgesicles!" when the parents get mad
That is the best thing I have ever heard
@Burrito Supreme How the hell are we being soft? Being freaked out and offended by beastiality is normal lol.
I’m Shane Dawson’s first cousin. I have some insider goss on my page
@Burrito Supreme The dude fucked his cat, he shouldn't bother coming back lmao
@Burrito Supreme I’ll never understand how someone could be stupid enough to try to excuse Shane’s child abuse with “you guys are way too soft” like all that does is make you look like a disgusting freak
Cat thing is blatantly a confession. Why would you say that as a joke?
I mean he was a shock RUclipsr. And it wasn’t out of the realm of other disgusting jokes he’s made. Not saying it actually was a joke, but I don’t find it beyond the realm of possibility.
No it wasnt. I dont think people get that that didnt grew up watching him. Theres other terrible stuff he said and I laughed at all of it when I was in my early teens. Why do you think he got so insanely popular People laughed at all the ridiculous shit he put out there.
Because he's not funny, that's why.
@Ray6695 There are still like 10+ videos of him sexualising animals or literally sexually harassing animals (making out with his friend's dog).
That’s what I don’t get. Even as a joke, sexual activity with animals would never be a punchline that I can come up with. Why was THAT the first thing he thought of?
Ironic, Shane Dawson spent the last few years of his career resurrecting the careers of people who didn't deserve a second chance, and in the end couldn't resurrect his own career....But no seriously, this is karma for helping keep Tana Mongoose relevant and "fixing" her reputation.
Ironic. He could save others from death but not himself.
Chancellor Palpatine: *ironic*
@@reasonablequit7535 You little come ruclips.net/video/Kpl3P7o8XYk/видео.html dog 😋
Have you heard the tragedy of Darth Dawson the catfucker? I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you.
@@flamingdog9207 he helped those who were failing yet cant himself, ironic
The only funny thing Shane has ever done is call himself an "empath"
@don't be surprised bot
Let's be Honest We knew it
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Let's be Honest We knew it
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Let's be Honest We knew it
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Stop appearing everywhere
When he was on hiatus, he could have used the money that he clearly has on creative writing classes, visual story telling lessons, video editing, comedy classes, etc. He could have come back with good content and most people who have been exhausted over him as a topic wouldn't have been so harsh, wouldn't have been as upset because he would have shown that he was trying to better himself, that he had actually grown and learned something. But no, in the very first vid back he says, "I didn't learn anything," and boy is that true.
Exactly. He was probably too busy stuffing his fat face.
This!
Just sounds like a weirdo.
Jeez, maybe he wanted to chill for a while
You basically described what Logan Paul did in his comeback. I don’t watch him but I see him all the time in shorts now and he seemed to have done a 180 from his old content
This sent ripples across the internet. I’ve heard about it and I had no idea who Shane Dawson until now.
Never heard of him, never heard of this.
I stumbled upon his videos since he was nobody. It was around Jenna Marbles was still new too. His old contents mostly was like what it was shown here. Same with Jenna, some of his contents weren't that mature, insulting people as joke, 'funny' sexual jokes and such. Then for a long time, I never heard from them both probably because RUclips algorithm. Then I was kinda surprised that they become so famous and their old videos vanished. The difference is Jenna did apologise sincerely because of her teenage immaturity and just stopped making RUclips.
ripples across my nipples
there's no correlation, i just wanted to say that
Same.
I wish I never found this erase shane dawson from my mind please
idk why but I get such man-child vibes from him lol
Hi koofy and first
Koofy why are you here
True lol
Prob bc he is one?
Because he is one??? His room and car are full of pee bottles and he’s such a cry baby for a 30 year old
Shane's return is proof that the fans don't always know what they want.
I feel like most fans do know what they want. They want the "old" Shane back, someone who's moved on, not someone who's mind is still on one and a half year old drama. Even if he came back like he used to be, the "culture" of RUclips has shifted a lot (it's much less tolerable to offensive jokes and such), and neglecting your channel for over 18 months doesn't help either.
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My biggest regret
@@0x4849 ..But like, thats exactly what Shane's been offering lmao
Oooor, fans just don't want a cringe, lazy (and possibly mentally deranged) youtuber to follow? That's today standards at least. What mesmerises me is how did he got so popular in the past? Were the die hard old times fans really that much into this guy? Nothing seems special about him except being annoying. So yeah, the old fan base scares me, the ones who made him famous over mediocre creations
They do. They want ignorance
Just a small point, I think a lot of the reason why his “taking accountability” video was so badly received was because Jenna Marbles had just released her own taking accountability video just prior. Hers was seen as honest & as an effort to truly take accountability and his seemed as if it was copying hers in an effort to get the same sort of emotional response. There were A LOT of comparisons between the two videos at the time, and accusations of him trying to essentially gain the sort of sympathy that Jenna’s video had generated.
That's exactly it! Jenna's video was clearly sincere and heartfelt, and then not even three days later Shane went "WeLL, I cAn MaKe OnE tOo"
Like, he was clearly doing it for internet brownie points; he just had the most hilariously bad timing imaginable (e.g. the Willow Smith incident resurfacing, the Tati Westbrook video, etc.)
It also doesn't help that Jenna actually committed to stepping away from youtube, which was touchy for a lot of people because they believed her mistakes (while they did need to be addressed) didn't warrant her losing her platform.
Shane on the other hand, who is clearly not sorry for all of his offensive and predatory content, really thought he could "cancel me, I deserve it :(" his way out of the controversy, but wasn't prepared for people to respond accordingly. Even when he did remove himself from RUclips, he didn't respect his hiatus by making appearances in Ryland's videos. I still watch Julien's content, and while he talks about Jenna in passing here and there, she never personally shows up in his content.
Dude how he describes what he did to his cat is just so disturbing in so many different ways
Now it makes sense why he wanted to interview a furry who humped dead animals in his free time
@jelly4frog498whether he did it or not. the description of it was disgusting and weird like wtf😭
@Jelly4Frog suuuuuuure he didn’t. Sounded very sincere to me when he was telling it.
@@youtubewatcher830 O we'll I hope it's not true.
if he did do that it is actually creepy and disturbing, idk if it did actually happen but it is still bad
There's no way Shane Dawson can excuse his actions towards ACTUAL minors as just "making a mistake". Honestly, Will Smith should have slapped him.
@Kuber Aseh will smith has two hands dummy. He can slap Chappell and Shane.
@@jamesbaxter222 🤣🤣🤣
@Kuber Aseh Please explain
@Kuber Aseh What?
Man the cat thing upset me so much, that I had to pause the video and couldn't watch it for like 30 mins. Shame on him fking A-hole.
It doesn’t help that he lost Andrew. As well as Drew and Garret who all had a huge impact on his videos for such a long time.
Shane and Ryland just aren’t interesting enough on their own. Their friend group was truly what made those old Shane videos so enjoyable.
i agree! andrew, garret and drew really added value to his channel
I kind of tried to keep up but lost interest... did Andrew or Garrett ever like denounce him or did they just pretend this didn't happen lolol
@@jlouiseknust i haven’t completely kept up either. As far as I’m aware they just kind of… quietly stepped back and pursued their own projects. I don’t think there was any public drama
@@annabanana1680 yeah I never saw them say anything on the matter. Although Andrew and Garrett still work together!
Garnett and Drew bounced off each other well. But I think he wasn't good for them so I think it is good they left him
You can tell a lot about a person from the company they keep, and I think the fact he's kept Jeffree around speaks volumes within itself. He hasn't grown, he hasn't learned from his mistakes, and both of them probably have the same narrowminded, "holier than thou" mindset that they've always had. It makes me so sad because I grew up watching Shane, but now the sight of him makes me feel so gross.
Yeah their minds both have this weird combination of “I’m rich and better than everyone” and “I’m such a bullied underdog :-(“
I remember when I first saw he returned and was getting the positivity and praise he was getting made me absolutely sick to my stomach. I don’t believe in canceling people over something they tweeted once or twice 6 years ago, but when it was, or rather is, a constant pattern in behavior, it gets to a point where it’s clearly just who they are.
100%. I listened to his podcast within hours of its release, all 200ish episodes. I thought they were funny but they did have odd moments where the co host tried to push through but shane didnt. Lots weird. It wasnt just one thing, like you said, its a pattern
Preforming sexual acts with your cat I think is a good enough reason to be permanently canceled. If anything he should be locked up in a nut house where he won’t be danger to other people, or cats
@@Lawrence_Talbot idk how you get horny to a fuckin cat or anything other than a human like bro got issues fr
@@Lawrence_Talbot its a joke he wasnt fr hes always said wild shi back then n everyone though it was funny
@@Lawrence_Talbotwas there ACTUAL sexual acts with his cat? I mean actual evidence video? Or just crude jokes that people usually find funny? I don’t understand this canceling thing unless it’s really truly dire and hard proof or evidence of it, what substance does saying “mean” or “offensive” jokes in 2009 to cancel someone?
Shane absolutely did not mean that confession as a joke. He has the nervous energy, self justification, uneasy guilt and generally hesitant yet overly open atmosphere of someone snitching on themselves.
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Yeah but a person who doesn't fuck animals isn't going to out and say they harmed an animal. The type of person that would though, is the person who HAS or has thought about it. Which hello biggest red flag indicator. Stop supporting predators, this is how pedos go under the radar.
The nervous laughter you could just hear that he was begging for them to join in but realized they were not validating his behavior as quirky and funny.
I find it odd that you would rather believe someone nonchalantly talked about sexually abusing their cat on a podcast for millions to hear than believe it was just a dumb kid whose entire personality was shock value humor taking a gross joke too far.
@@MissRegionRat reaching.
If you ever feel like you want the old RUclips to return but it goes wrong, this is a prime example.
Yeah, and Shane is someone who doesnt deserve to return after being involved in THIS MANY controversies
yea the old youtube is nvr coming back lol
@@idkwut2name especially after what he did to his cat
if fearless came back everyone would still love him
i just miss jenna marbles
My stomach twisted and I felt SICK when Shane Dawson talked about abusing his cat. No one could have just thought that shit up for humor or shock value.
Are you being for real or is that a lame attempt at a joke, itself? Shock value humor has been around for a long time, and has seen jokes much much worse than that?
@@Dylan_Sterling Nice try, Dawson! It's too late to explain the cat at this point!
@Ducky ok matty b
*looks at Logan Paul *
Coulda fooled me.
@Paraone Ngatai known*
Does anyone else adore that Sunny jumps directly into the substance without performative nonsense?
Sunny simps hard for a pedo in this video
yes
I’m fully convinced that he could cover a story about an actual pedophile (which he kinda did here) and still jump to their defence
Who doesn't?
@@thestanley2692 people with a brain. Anyone informed on the situation sees how much nonsense and biased information is in this video, *and how much information was blatantly left out.* Sunny is a supporter of Shane and thus didn’t mention quite a bit of the predatory instances he’s been called out for
The cat confession made me feel sick. The way he said it wasn't a joke. He used humour to make it sound less weird.
they way he described it was like remembering an experience rather than a joke. Absolutely disgusting, he’s never going to recover from this.
He's always used humor to lessen what he says and it's disgusting. I even knew watching when it was younger and didn't know why I didn't stop watching him prior
I hate the implication that SD's mediocre return was predominantly due to form, and not the weird and gross things he did that got him cancelled in the first place. I feel like the, "don't make a big deal, just keep streaming and produce good content" argument work well for Carson, where I don't think what he did was that bad; and of very recent history the same with Mizkif and Maya. SD is the wrong person to apply the argument to.
i gagged
So disgusting! I kinda miss his videos but I will not watchin ever again haven’t since the whole explosion occurred
Hear that clip of him saying that he did that to his cat was disgusting and horrible. It didn’t sound like a joke
Maybe, but I'm skeptical a real cat would even let you do that to them.
Sometimes the point of edgy humor is to make it sound authentic, ofcourse Shane's delivery sucks either way.
@@svancina nah a cat would have scratched the shit out of him and ran off
@@mistertagomago7974 Just saying you sexually abused a cat isn't even considered a joke. There was no way he was joking.
@@lazyhazy7 that's the problem we don't know if he's joking or not atleast I don't know
Either way never watched his content to begin with so I don't know him well
Even before all the controversies about him Shane always gave me the creeps. He just radiates sex offender energy.
To me, i didnt see that... but his hair made me question that tbh
he’s definitely the kinda guy who goes “where’s my hug at” and makes everyone uncomfortable
Same here
@@khaldixon3553 yes. Very creepy uncle vibes
Yes
“Can you get arrested for this?”
“I don’t think so!”
Proceeds to tell beastiality story
Bruh why he is so dumb
Usually if you have to ask that, it’s probably yes you can
The problem I have w/ Shane currently is that he says he’s “too sensitive” for what was happening and pulled a victim card yet the things he said and done does not imply sensitivity. His actions don’t line up w/ his words.
Yeah
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You can change a lot in 10 years. Frontal lobe doesn’t develop till you’re 25
He’s too sensitive for criticism, that’s what he really means
@@julian2238 But he was doing shitty things in his late 20s and 30s. With a presumably fully developed frontal lobe.
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Finally it's here YES..
when d’angelo wallace called him the cockroach that keeps coming back to youtube that really resonated with me bc of how accurate it was
I didn’t even realise he returned to RUclips until I saw this video, really shows how much relevancy he has lost lmao
Does the world revolve around u
Not enough tbh
@@cat3584 Yes.
Same! I thought he was still In hiding
No idea who he is lol
D'Angelo Wallace was the one who took him down.
His video exposing how awful Shane was shows Shane should have NEVER been famous to begin with.
I started watching D’Angello before all the controversy. He did good with videos, had a comfortable easy-going style to him :) knew he would be successful
Exactly and I’m actually happy he released it and many people actually watched it soo it’s good (he deleted it tho)
Dangelo is a woke lefty
@@TheSMR1969 Well he is gay, and black, so it was inevitable I supposed. But yeah. He's a libtard.
@@TheSMR1969 hell yeah he is!!!
If I were there during that cat confession I would straight up walk out. That’s so nasty and the fact he’s trying to frame it as a silly anecdote is insane. What he did WAS illegal. It’s disgusting
It blows my mind that he said that was such confidence. And then all of a sudden, realizes he’s been exposed, and denies everything. What’s up with popular RUclipsrs being complete freaks, pedophiles, or just creepy as hell?
I was just thinking about that. So many people that fat famous turn out to have some serious bones in their closet. I wonder how all these terrible people are becoming famous.
Probably because they think they can get away with it since they're "too big to fail"
Honestly, I used to think money didn't corrupt as much as we like to say it does, but it's happening so much that it can't be a coincidence. Money, fame, and power really do make people play out those evil thoughts that some people have but then ignore because of morals or just knowing they could get caught. Meanwhile, the rich and famous are surrounded by people who say "do whatever you want" and "follow your heart" and they know they can just buy their way out of getting in trouble for it. The amount of celebrities who are openly or at least hint at being terrible people (jerks, rapists, bullies, abusers) is getting so long that I've stopped supporting Hollywood entirely.
Because you never here about somebody not being a pedophile
I don't think all of them are actually pedophiles, just using their platform and fame to manipulate people who are young, dumb and not developed enough to realize what's going on and so they take advantage of that
It’s crazy that this man still has a platform but he does have a huge fan base!
Probably kids who want to be “edgy” and watch the guy who did the worst stuff! Cancelled 6 times! Said the N word! Talked about sex with his tween cousin! Meanwhile I guess they’ll eventually give up because it’s boring kitchen whining. Then the ones who think they owe it to him because “He” helped them through a hard time when they were younger. Not realizing he was doing his job, to make money, period. And over the years adopt the big 3 he can manipulate them with. SA, suicide (incl depression) body issues.
Well he was very funny but people nowadays feel like they have to be offended by anything, not sure if it makes them happier ^^
@@DemonZest well the cat thing is just over the top. I can laugh alot of things off and most of the time these people getting cancelled is stupid and I don't support thst crap. However the cat deal is just to close to beastieality ! Sorry I can't laugh about that at all
@@whateverheather655 me too but it was just an isolated very bad joke on a podcast, i wasn't even aware of it at the time.
@@DemonZest in all joking aside there are lots of crazy things to joke about. Getting off on your cats fur is just going to far. Nothing funny about thst
Normal people's joke: a priest, a Banker, and a cop went to a Bar...
Shane's jokes: i came on a cat and i'm into kids.
If it happened or not, he'd catch hands for that
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What was the normal people joke?
@@cleanmvp1879 i tried really hard to come up with one...🤣
@@cleanmvp1879 tbh i don't think i know any normal people jokes that are not straight up cringe.
Like: what do you name a mushroom hopping around in a forest?
A jumpingnon.
@@Kaminkaese normal people jokes just suck, embrace the perfectly cut screams and ironic shitposts
4 million is still way more than he deserves. If only RUclips could take some of the viewership from creeps like Shane and redistribute them to smaller RUclipsrs. Considering how difficult it is to break through the algorithm at this point, it would be very appreciated.
That would require RUclips to not be an ethically dubious corporation
Honestly I don’t see why people ever liked him in the first place, he’s clearly insecure and instead of taking the steps to build up his ego in a healthy way, he sulks about the same things for years on end while calling himself an empath.
I can understand why younger people would've thought his earlier content was funny, but I don't understand why he's held on to an audience for so long.
@@FrenkTheJoy I watched his spooky doc content but I liked Garrett a lot more and then it kinda felt like shame was always putting him down and/or trying be act like him?!
I’m not fixing the typo it’s appropriate lol
And also kinda being rude to the people around him, right? I don’t know for sure about now, but the way he treated his old assistant back in the day and made anti-Semitic jokes about her (iirc) made him seem like a bully, too.
when i was an insecure, bullied, mentally ill tween, i loved him because he seemed authentic compared to other celebs at the time and never shied away from talking about those issues. but at the same time i feel like because his fans connected with him so much, he was able to manipulate that parasocial relationship to a point where his fans felt obligated to comfort him and hype him up and defend him against people they perceived as bullying him because they were scared he would have a mental breakdown or harm himself. like when you combine the fact that some of his videos could actually be pretty entertaining and high effort with the 15 year long parasocial relationship he had with his fans, it honestly makes a lot of sense why people put up with him for so long
My friend highly recommended Shane Dawson when I was in the prime demographic of his early content. A young, edgy teen girl. I watched 2 videos. One was about the only joke being throwing cat poop nonstop. The second was blackface. I considered him a “bad RUclipsr” after that and stuck to NigaHiga and Jenna Marbles.
People calling themselves empaths usually aren’t.
Just like people saying they never lie, are nice etc.
You shouldn’t have to proclaim those things about yourself, people will know.
too be perfectly honest I have no clue what the fuck an empath is, like I know what word it is derived from so I can hazard a guess but like.... that just sounds and seems like a thing made up to make being a normal human that can empathize with others seem like a special thing, like no.... not feeling empathy towards others is what is special and that's usually called being a psychopath
yeah as a very dishonest person, i have the habit of saying "honestly" lol.
@@goranpersson7726 empathy is just the understanding of others. its a trait everyone should have. l
@@kendoll4127 because people use that and it’s their like whole personality. Everyone has empathic ability, except like serial killers lol.
People who really do have gifts don’t like talking about them, because it isn’t what people think it is. That’s why it’s so cringe.
As an empath I can tell your skeptical
If I were him I’d just retire and get out of the spotlight. Millions of dollars and lots of time to focus on family and hobbies. But that’s not what fuels him and I think it’s the same thing that fuels a lot of RUclipsrs - fame and notoriety. They all seek validation and external support and that’s what so many of them crave, so I don’t think he’d ever stop creating content of some kind.
Fame is a powerful drug
I think if he was smart he would focus on making documentaries but not that feature him, he could still make videos but take himself out of focus because nobody thinks he is genuine or caring anymore....
@@OALM if I was famous and known for being controversial, I wouldn't want to be famous lol.
All he has to do is retire from RUclips, leave his videos up so he can collect ad revenue, purchase a few properties to rent out for a stable income stream, and hire someone else to manage his rentals/tenants. He could literally just retire early, mind his business, and spend time with his family/friends etc, but he insists on being in the spotlight due to egotism/etc.
Like, I hate him, and I think he deserves to have to become a normal member of society + work for a living like the average person, but he isn't even at that point yet! He could just cut his losses and DIP with enough money/resources to maintain his lifestyle, just without filming himself or getting so much attention, but he won't, and that's just going to make things worse for him 🙄
I think he’s a narcissist or sociopath. It’s been his “personality” and he has nothing else to become. It seems it was his friends that were funny. We saw the mask slip on that live when Tati mentions sexual assault and his words “I’M the one who was molested” like she took something that he earned and the well,no actual story, it was suggested by Katie after a quiz. Number 1, there is no quiz to test if you were molested, but if you saw how he jumped at the very mention on empathy to self diagnose himself an empath (another personality he took on as both the molest (which in his book he said he was never molested. It’s like I think a kink to him. The kids sex jokes, the puppet, the cousin). He decided because he didn’t like his face getting wet then it MUST be because he has a sweaty man on him. And the 3rd in his collection “suicide”. As someone who has attempted, who thinks about it daily, there is nothing to joke about. I get thru everything with humour but also having a close family member that did and succeeded, it’s not funny. These are also things he can manipulate his audience with to buy crap or get out of trouble. A lot of trouble others have lost their channel for.
the cat thing made my jaw drop, like nobody who ISNT a zoophile says "I spread her little chicken legs"
Literally made my skin crawl
For the people that say it’s in the past and we are too sensitive nowadays, his older videos from the early 2010s got his parents fired from their jobs.
Lmfao I remember that. Didn’t he get fired from his job from a video too? Like back in 2008 or something
he got fired from his job because he made a joke about Jenny Craig which was also the company he worked for, that's what got him fired
it is in the past though, i'm not defending him but people who say that are right though, not only talking about shane, but people are digging so far in the history of some people just to cancel them, past is past, there is no way to go back in time and change it, and somehow people are dumb enough not to know that people can change, they could find a 30 year old video of eminem saying the n'word or something and cancel him for that
@@dxst5911 Personally, I think that cancel culture has done more good than bad.
The problem is that celebrities are working their butts off and spending huge amounts of time and money to turn people against 'cancelling', which is why people are always saying "OMG!! CANCEL CULTURE HAS GONE TOO FAR!! LOOK AT THIS CELEBRITY, HE'S CRYING!!"
@@ashblossomandjoyoussprung.9917 spending money and time, i have no idea what you're talking about, it's just that people don't know how to forgive
In regards to the cat incident, shocking does not always equal funny. Especially when it's about the torture of an innocent child or animal
I wouldn't say it's torture it's more on the really uncomfortable side I'm not justifying zoophiles
@@mattthegamer7070 torture is accurate
@@mattthegamer7070 also uncomfortable is definitely a major understatement considering the story he told
@@mattthegamer7070 Mom!!! ruclips.net/video/Kpl3P7o8XYk/видео.html it's finally here
Like there is a way to make the story “funny” (well as funny as something like that can be). He can easily told the story as “when I come my cat came out and I accidentally cum on it” and then showing him freaking out and feeling bad about it.
You can just TELL that he was being completely honest when talking about the cat incident.
Big difference between making up a story on the fly, and confessing to something.
God, he’s disgusting. 🙄
No cat is gonna lay on its back with its legs spread and let you nut all over them 😂
its here finnally
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i like how people's reasoning behind believing the cat story to be true is because it just "sounded genuine" lol
@@greyishboy i don't like Shane but yeah, you're right. I bet they easily believe pathological liars because they also sound genuine when they lie
@@greyishboy if I go out in public and scream "I killed my cat" whilst also describing how I did it, people will believe me until they actually see that the cat is alive.
He said the apology wasn’t made out of fear with his face clearly showing fear😂
He was a shitty person who succeeded in rebranding himself as the nicest, most sensitive person on RUclips and with this, he attracted a bunch of people who didn't know his origin story. And then he got found out again, and this rebranding effort crumbled like a house of cards. He was selling his personality, and it turned out it was all fake. He just doesn't have mainstream appeal anymore, and he got to keep only his core audience, because the formerly casual viewers feel sick upon the sight of him
Omg this is spot on!!
Nail on the head!
He's basically like boogie2988
Yup. Boggles my mind how he thought he could get away with that. The uwu soft boy persona is so obviously not him
That's probably the best commentary I've ever read about him. You just pinpointed exactly what he did
Shane Dawson is the “I’m sorry YOU got offended”-type of guy.
I don't know why people even support him anymore.
As children we're taught just because someone is nice doesn't mean they're a good person. Sad that's been forgotten for influences.
Edit: imagine getting so upset that you go out your way to condone and excuse him. Cause that's what's in this thread 🙄
Definitely. I wonder if enough ppl are still being taught that though.
“Nice is different than good,” I remember that from Into the Woods
Imo he is still funny and for the cat thing it just seems like a really trash joke. I feel like most of it was just trash jokes as well. People will dig everything and find anything they can get offended about even if it was years ago and was clearly said in a jokeful manner.
I’m guessing some just care about content rather than who’s producing it. Like on a post about the fairlife milk farms abusing cows but half the comments are stuff like, “still good though” “that shit slaps” “who cares”.
@@0subsWith0vidsChallenge
Maybe it's just me, but there isn't really anything funny about doing blackface and parading around a racist caricature to mock black women.
HE DID WHAT TO HIS CAT?!
He poured "Milk" on his cat
@@YhuriAndrei this is why society and the word “normal” never gets along
well *barely* gets along
Yah personal milk he keeps "mostly to himself
I still have nighrmares about THAT *cat*
-Barney Calhoun, local police officer.
The OBSERVE channel did a full analysis of Shane's apology video and pointed out something really interesting - the number of cuts in the video. As I watched the full version uploaded by Shane, I noticed just how insincere the apology actually felt
I personally have never liked Shane Dawson. He looks like the type to act like he’s a nice and generous person, but when the cameras are off, he acts the complete opposite.
He just has a deceptive aura.
Probably because he looks a bit like Onision, that guy is unhinged.
im happy he's lost 90% of his viewers but the fact he's still getting millions is shocking. i know it's probably mostly kids (which is concerning considering his predatory behavior) but im so disgusted by people who still watch him. i just can't forgive everything he's done and filmed for "entertainment" no matter how much time has passed. it's just so disgusting. and i am so concerned about him having a child :( he can barely take care of himself
This is a problem with this channels "never apologize for being controversial" take. It ignores when people have gone too far. It also defends putting in absolutely zero effort (like when that one chick was so racist that she called people a n-word lover, and didn't even bother to write her own apology) saying people should just forgive.
It's simple, if you want people to believe that you've changed, then be proactive in pointing it out, don't wait until people open the closet and find all the skeletons themselves. Liam Neeson did that, and sure some people were initially mad but nobody has a problem with him nowadays.
Tbf it's still very steep downhill since he usually got 15-50 million views per video, even tho he still gains a lot of money despite those "low" numbers, and now in every his new videos he alwasy lost views from 500k to 1 million, it's just about time when his channel completely dries up.
I mean surely if the audience currently consists of "mostly kids" then the cliche growing up phase will disconnect them from his channel as they move on and lose interest over time, that would eventually just leave shane with nothing. How many youtubers that you watched as a kid are you still watching to this day? case and point.
I’d honestly be shocked if the government actually approved him to be fit for adoption
@@fart63 0_0 i fucking hope he doesn’t get near any kid let alone be the parent of one
As a cat owner what he said irks me so bad
As a human being what he said irks me so bad
I have 3 cats (4 as of tomorrow night), and that entire statement just filled with a lovely “wtf” feeling
I’m not even sure what level I hate him on more, as someone who loves cats or as someone who loves comedy
I never watched Shane Dawson, but listening to him here I’m genuinely wondering.
How were tens of millions people okay with listening to this man for _40+_ minutes on end? I know this is him at his worst, but I struggled even to watch those short clips. Was he really that good back in his heyday?
he really was that good back in his hayday 😭 those videos of him doing blackface & harrassing children were from the early 2010s, so myself & many other previous fans were completely unaware of this behaviour until 2020. i knew of the cat incident as well, but never heard the audio until today. back in like 2016-2018, he made really captivating videos of different conspiracy theories, & (biased) documentaries about other online stars / influencers.
I never understood the hype hey, but I've never been a fan of YTbers like James Charles, Jeffry Star, Tanya or Logan brothers etc... All seem like cringey, edgelord creators to me. I like informative videos, not memes over 2 hours lol
No . If you watch old videos with this new awareness about him you realise its all crap
@@shaina8947
He always gave me creep vibes
I'm always surprises when people say they didn't know about him because I remember being the grade school and people loving his Shnaynay videos and what not
To be clear I'm not saying I don't believe you! Just that it surprises me
@@SPYgirl199812 lol yeah when he was doing all that i was a little kid with like no internet access, so I had no idea
Shout out to Nick DiRamio for expressing exactly how I feel about Shane's weird boring content.
Absolutely! 😏
Yep, Shane's personal hygiene is vomit inducing.
I loveeeee Nick!!!
Shane is a guy who never deserved his fame and it a good thing he is forgotten and off the home pages of kids
When you are at the mercy of the Biggest Jokers and memes of Hollywood,Idk how you can be saved at that point
U act like he messaged minors If you seen 12 yr olds you would know that joke was nothing 12 yr olds joke about stuff even worse than that all the time and this is 100% true
What did he even get "famous" for?
Like, I know of him from all the controversies he's been in...
But other than that, Have no idea what the hell he did on the channel.
@@alfreddrewes9362 Originally, like in the early 2010s he made super edgy skits back when people liked that stuff, and before he was cancelled his most popular videos were his documentaries about other youtubers
@@flixs1353 there’s videos of him on video chats telling his young fans to twerk.
As someone who grew up watching his conspiracy theories, as a kid I always questioned if these were theory’s or a loop hole for manipulating his audience, looking back it makes a lot more sense, his extremely manipulative over his audience and fortunately his ‘sad sappy’ innocence persona is no longer serving him any favours, it still angers me he has a huge audience that blindly support him
That iconic "I didn't come on my cat" tweet was probably the most hilarious thing in meme culture
Can we take a second to appreciate SunnyV2's consistency 🔥He got the best RUclips documentaries in the game!
Lol no
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No lol, his skeppy video was ocky as the googonballaphrant bruh. It was all cap.
SILENCE BOT
How Shane came this far in RUclips will always be a mystery to me
I still do not understand it, I never really knew he existed but when I did look into him I was flabbergasted
If you lived through OG youtube you’ll kind of get it, shock/offensive content were doing really well back then, the social media culture has just changed and those who can’t adapt will fall. Tbh I think shane adapted quite well before his past caught up with him
@@joesr31 i am the most OG youtube user there is. His content seemed fake and lame. And I got pedo vibes later on. I knew there was an audience for him but it genuinely shocked me how big. Glad he's done.
I remember being really young and being weirded out by his content, but under the misguided 7 year old assumption that he was “just joking” I didn’t really think too hard about it at the time. Now as an adult I analyze EVERYTHING, it’s so clear to me how insufferably racist and predatory he was, but at 7, I didn’t even know 1/4 of the words adults used, I didn’t understand the nuances of racism or that I had ever experienced it myself. It’s that childlike innocence and ignorance coupled with the bright colors, costumes, and videos that were made specifically to look appealing to younger audiences. At a certain point he DID attempt to cover up his past and change his image, which I think kept a lot of his fans supporting him because as they grew up, his content was less and less obviously horrific. I’d say he got popular from a mix of luck, attention seeking, drawing in viewers with shock value, and specifically having a target demographic of young kids
His audience was children
Apparently he's still making videos
All of his comment are nothing but positive ones but that's probably because he's deleting the mean ones
I was so shocked when people were fawning over Shane like he was a Good Soft Boi. All I knew of him was really shitty humour, blackface and those fucking ugly bangs. Then there was a period where everyone thought he was such a great guy and then they were shocked that things came up? Like... This wasn't deeply buried controversy, it was all right there on his channel but ok.
At least I get Nick Diramio content from it.
Who’s nick and what did he do?
@@jamo3157 Nick is basically this reviewer guy on RUclips. He basically reviewed a lot of Shane’s movies and short films he released (but I think later deleted after the controversy) back in the early 2010’s. He’s very funny, would recommend a watch👍🏼
Did he steal your girl why you hate on his looks too?
(If you can't tell this is a joke your brain dead Shane's literally homosexual)
"ugly bangs" that's a massive understatement. That haircut makes me shiver. Feels uncomfortable looking at him
What's wrong with putting on blackface for a joke
I think it's ironic that years ago when I bought It Gets Worse, my cat climbed on my shelf and had diarrhea all over it before i could finish reading it lmao
Smart cat
Out of all the books and object the cat might have chosen to unleash its unholy torrent upon....
Lmao he did it for his cat brethren
Thank you so much for making these videos, it’s a great, unbiased way for me to learn about RUclips drama I didn’t care about/didn’t know.
@just i c e why are there so many of these posts?
Bro ur a cat? be careful for shane dawson
@@ngentitit OH GOD DAMNIT YOU’RE RIGHT I NEED TO GET OUT OF HERE
@just i c e can you not
Your not the "cat" are you? I'm sorry if you are:(
Even when I was a child Shane Dawson always came off as creepy to me I don't understand why people only recently came to the same realization.
I second this! I did not ever like shane dawson. Felt very uncomfortable watching his videos for reasons I cannot explain now and felt his jokes were gross, and over the top. I would even watch pewdiepie and jack with their humour back in that day but I would have a problem with Shane if that tells you anything.
Cause he is a creep
Shane 2008-2012 was so nasty and I am surprised most people didn’t know about this.
Yes!!! I remember him back then, he was so gross! I was so surprised when he rose to fame. I didn’t understand why he’d be so famous. I clicked on one of his videos after 7 or 8 years and it’s like he was a completely different person. I had a feeling that his new audience didn’t know about his yucky past. He hid it well for a while, but it sure came back to bite him
I liked him back then, the skits were funny and obviously it was characters. I just don't appreciate the baby comments and questionable grooming behavior.
@@katl1489 Are you white? Because I remember unsubscribing around 2009 because those “characters” were extremely hurtful and mean, not “funny”
@@NikkiB7598 exactly my thoughts
@@lalalalaaAa123 bringing race into this 🤦🏽♂️😂
These breakdowns are so good Sunny. You go into so much detail about things I wouldn’t even think about. (Shane’s body language, him joking about his lack of commitment, etc.)
The internet was a definitely a different place 10 years ago but some of his jokes/ actions were STILL a lil out of pocket. I don’t think his mistakes should be held over his head for the rest of his career though. Hopefully he can move on, get back on his grind, and maybe learn to ignore the negativity when it resurfaces. I wanna see him back on top over the next couple years.
Agreed
It'd be nice if there were a full video talking about how to not get cancelled, even though the bulk of it would be to not react to the dumb teenagers who are having a meltdown over nothing. It seems Jake Paul is the only person I can think of who doesn't address any controversies and they seem to go away nearly instantly.
No.
@@SeethingSimp We need a resurgence in edgy humor. We need more people who laugh when they're being cancelled.
I mean…. I’ve made a lot of mistakes in life, but I’ve never accidentally done blackface. Kinda seems like he was purposefully profiting off nonstop racism. But that’s just my opinion.
That his return was unsuccessful gives me some hope for humanity. At least some people have memory.
*Gets 4 million reviews
Lets be honest we all enjoyed this video by having this:
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4 million views is in no way "unsuccessful"
@@bo_thebot3259 For *him* it is, but I still get your point though. No one should be watching him.
@@bo_thebot3259 girl, if you watched this video you’d know that was a 95% drop. 4M after averaging 40M is a flop.
2:12 i am utterly disgusted
Me too 🤮
He was always toxic and always a terrible person but none of my friends would listen. 🤷🏻♂ Even if by some miracle he actually was joking, they are things you don't joke about and things that should just not be said. Instead of fearing and doing a hasty apology just to cover your butt and keep going on, just don't say the stuff the begin with.
I remember a clip of him with that same 12 year old where he mentioned she may become pregnant after using the bathroom after Shane left some “cream cheese” on the toilet seat. That was the last time I ever watched one of his videos ever.
I'm shocked it took people so long to realize Shane was an actual predator before. He gave off weird vibes like "Onion Boy" Onision in his older videos. As a kid, I had a weird feeling about both of them.
sooner or later he gonna be registered as a sex offender
Oh no
wtf🤢
Wtff
I still don’t get how people think returning after receiving hate on a massive scale is a good idea. They act like everyone will forgive them as time goes on. Unbelievable.
Especially on Shane’s level of cancellation. Like I don’t know any other RUclipsr who got bashed as hard as Shane. in my opinion it’s deserved.
Dramatic af
Shane's been cancelled like 6 times now. So.. I mean it worked before.
He still had so many dumb people showing him support so I’m not surprised
It’s because of the “all attention is good attention” mindset. Nikita Dragun, Tana Mongoue, Jeffrey Star, James Charles, and the Kar-Jenners are a great example of this because their careers thrive off of drama and controversy. Some one like Taylor Swift could never get away with this, but the people I mentioned do because they’ve set themselves up to be portrayed this way. That’s why no matter how much drama these people get into their fans will always support them because they like the drama and controversy as well.
That fact that there are people even in this comment section that defend him really blows my mind.
Ive never liked Shane; my first encounters with him were back when he was doing blackface and i never trusted him since.
Im glad younger people are finally accepting how abhorrent he is.
I think a lot of it has to do with his “I was young and stupid” not flying anymore. His young audience is now the age he was when those videos were made. And they know how terrible they (the videos) are and see him not doing anything to actually atone for it.
Everyone knows Dane Shawson was his peak. We all know why he got the pass and why everyone was handling him with kid gloves before the most recent controversy.
@@Kiley713 what do you expect him to do tase himself for 20 mins to atone?
In high school everyone loved him and I was like why? The black face for sure was such an awful form of a "joke". I really wish he never came back.
@@flixs1353 perhaps atone isn’t the right word. But he apologized but doesn’t do anything. The videos he apologized for were still up on his channel (not sure if they still are) and it was very recently he was selling merch of stereotypical characters.
So glad you put Nick DiRamio's clip in this video! He's a great content creator and I feel like he deserves even bigger audience! 😌💯🙌
Never heard of him but he's got a nice makeup, really loved the eyelashes
I don't think anyone with mental health issues should be on RUclips
The thing with Shane is, he's messed up either way. Even if it was just for shock value. If u think that being predetory, being racist or beastiality is funny, than u have mad issues. He just keeps thinking he can cime back. How much must one mess up to finally Exit and leave olthe ppl alone. Like dang
It can be funny, but it's hard to be funny when he more than likely actually did it.
@@jbsully2864 I mean he's gotta make it into a joke to make it funny, saying a shocking joke and saying something shocking aren't the same
I hope he never quits just to spite people like you.
I'm a firm believer that anything can be funny in the right context. If someone wants to make a joke about darker, more taboo subject matter, then they should be free to do so and I don't think it inherently means someone has issues or is a bad person. That said, a joke based on darker subjects has to not only actually be funny and told at the right moment, because it will be seen as distasteful otherwise, but it also needs to be clear that it's just a joke. Many of Shane's "jokes" about pedophilia, bestiality, and racism wouldn't have been viewed so negatively if there weren't so many videos/voice clips of him engaging in predatory/questionable behavior while he isn't playing a character. Based on many clips that I had seen, he also often made no real indication that he was joking about any of the things he said for "shock value", as he claims. So they don't come off as "ah, Shane's just bein' silly and dumb LOL" and more like "this dude has no filter and is now telling me these incredibly weird and gross things he has done". It makes it seem less like absurd humor and more like a bungled confession.
That's my take on it, at least. I was never a regular viewer of Shane Dawson's content, so I have to look at this sorta' from an outsider's perspective.
@@kingstarscream3807 spite? It's just a fact. Being racist and a pedo amd alegendly abusing animals is not ok. It's not just ppl hating. It's actually disgusting stuff
this is the first time i’m hearing the audio of him admitting it, and it’s wild how fine he is talking ab it.
I don't have anything against dark humor but the way he executed that "joke" was so horrible that I'm not surprised he got canceled.
Exactly.
What was the joke?
@@crocodiledowny2191 That he came on his cat
@@TheBestFormOfHumor it’s funny,although wasn’t funny coming from him because he’s a creep
@@crocodiledowny2191 so if someone else said it, then that would be different
"I don't want you to feel like I'm forcing you to forgive me"
Shane, the only thing your weak ass can force is a cat.
The shade it's killing me! 👌
This
Your storytelling and build up is amazing … i learn so much from it 💯🔥
Lets be honest we all enjoyed this video by having this:
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Not the skeppy hate vid he made
@just i c e Here's a list of people who asked
@@neuzie the list:
Not the skeppy vid tho
The fact that he thought c***ing on a cat was funny is absolutely disgusting 🤮 and then to say he was putting on an “act” suuuuuuuuure
Don’t ever watch family guy
I have to say I love your voice. A lot of RUclipsrs try and sound dramatic when talking about this stuff and it gets annoying but you're very straight forward and it's calming to listen to
I love your style of content, the way you explain your videos also the way you edit. Keep safe man and keep doing what you love
Be glad you didn't watch the videos where he showed himself on camera and really unsettlingly stared into your soul while forcing hand gestures, with awkward framing. It really made me so uncomfortable.
sunnyv2 is carrying the 'downfall' genre of youtube
It's that buttery british accent that keeps me coming back for more
@@chromberries7329 australian
@@chromberries7329 British😂😂😂😂
@@chromberries7329 It's Aussie
Him and Patrickcc
I’m not going to give Shane Dawson the cancel culture treatment here. The stuff he did with his 9 year old cousin (like having her give him a lap dance) is gross. And the baby thing he said on podcast. Whatever is wrong with him is deeper than “just being offensive in the past” and I can’t support it.
His entire gimmick is ironic. His whole draw was the controversial, edgy, bad taste videos, then society changed and called him out for it. Now he doesn't know how to move forward. He's got a lot of issues to work through.
Society hasn't really changed that much. The vast majority of normal people still enjoy edgy humor. Woke Twitter mobs and crying RUclipsrs form a vocal minority.
@@kingstarscream3807 it's ironic that you say it's woke twitter and crying youtubers criticizing him when you're defending him tooth and nail under every comment like you're his boyfriend
@@wow5623 Somebody has to do it
@@wow5623 why is that ironic? Do you think a gay man can't be aganist cancel culture and leftism? Meet MILO.
@@zachariah7114 why are y'all bringing politics into it... dumb asf. Shane is a bad person end of story y'all need to stop making it about how much you hate the left wing . so stupid tf
Just like a lot of youtubers and streamers....their core audience grows up a little bit and realizes how dumb the content they once loved really is
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Lets be honest we all enjoyed this video by having this:
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2 fucking bots
He’s the prime example of someone thinking time heals scars
Time does heal scars, just maybe not on the internet
@@ChickenMan-ct8kw Some scars stay permanently
"What reason cannot heal, time does." - idk I forgot who said this lol
@@ChickenMan-ct8kw that's just.. untrue
Think you mean wounds
I have a DARK sense of humor but his audio clips don’t sound like he’s joking, there’s a line you draw. 😬
Sunny, would you be able to do a video on Jenna Marbles?? Would love to hear more about why she went off the internet from your POV! Thank you for posting great and unbiased content, keep up the good work!
Seconding!
It's not unbiased at all.
He obviously hates some of these creator's.
Did you not watch him try and bring down Ninja?
You could here the hate in his voice.
@@TsarNick1995 you’re looking for an argument and i’m not gonna engage in it. have a great day🤣😘
Another youtuber already made a video about it. hope this helps: ruclips.net/video/S4GR1wd4H4U/видео.html
@@TsarNick1995 poor bait. 2/10
It's so weird to me that youtubers can get away with almost anything and brush it off as "drama", while they would most probably be imprisoned if they didn't have that kind of status.
Yeah I'm sure the judge and local police gave him a pass for being a RUclips star /s
As someone who can be very callous and harsh it makes me feel relieved that I'll likely never be in a position where the internet can judge me and dredge yo my past. I certainly wouldn't be apologizing, that's your first mistake when addressing a mob.
Shane literally abused kids dumbass. People calling out his crimes aren’t a mob or dredging up the past
In this case, Shane’s first mistake was.....doing that terrible shit in the first place.
I read It Gets Worse a long while ago and really loved it, didn't find out about the racial controversy until a couple days after I had already read the book. I feel so betrayed to this day that the man who was very briefly one of my favorite authors would do and say such stupid shit
Is that the book where he admits he was never actually abused as a kid? I can’t remember if it was that one or I Hate My Selfie
I got a weird vibe from him. My sister would watch him a lot and he always creeper me out.
The fact that he was even joking about beastiality involving a poor cat worries me greatly.
I also remember that clip of him being told about a little baby being raped to death and he was so excited by it 🤮 absolutely revolting person. He shouldn't be near children ever.
Shut up it's just a cat... He didn't harm it... People nowadays are just too sensitive... Grow up!!
@@bevarena6269 you’re missing the point, clearly 🙄
@@AlphaOmegaKnight77658 hes right, ur too sensitive
@@cocklexp51 you guys should probably go watch Cocomelon or something. This stuff isn’t for children 🤡
I honestly feel really grossed out to have ever watched Shane. Though I was young and dumb and never able to tell weird stuff or understand 'drama'. Somewhat related, I'd love to see a video covering iAmCyr, who is just....an absolute creep. Disgusting guy
Cyr and Onision both deserve a video tbh
Wtf rid Iamcyr do?? 😭😭
Same! I didn't realize that the character (at 4:04) was a parody of black women. The last straw for me was a skit where the teacher character instructs a student in graphic detail how to slit your wrists (it was taken off by YT). That was before the black face and the really messed up pedo videos. The cat thing was clearly NOT a joke, and even if it was how sick must you be to make up something like that on the fly? He keeps painting himself (or make others do it) as this oh so sensitive and good person, when he's just one messed up individual. If you're such a good person and an "empath", you don't have to say it constantly!
We were all naive children
How pathetic. That man does not deserve a comeback. He’s just reminding people why he got banned in the first place. He hit rock bottom for a reason.
Before even watching the video let me guess - He "failed" cause he's an actual creep that never genuinely apologized or took accountability for the disgusting stuff he put out. I don't care if it was for shock value, if kids are involved and talked about in this way, it's fucking inappropriate.
And the fact he claims that at the time it was funny. Anyone with a brain knows shock value does not equal comedy