TikTok Star Details His Relationship with Wife | CA v Ali Abulaban
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- TikTok Star #AliAbulaban details the lack of affection between him and his wife Ana. During direct examination, the "#Scarface" impersonator tells the jury he punched his late wife because he was "coked out."
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He's NO star He's a scumbag murderer ‼️
COURT TV.....Why did you delete my comment calling him a scumbag murderer ❓
I guess I should say he's every mother's wish for her daughter huh❓
NO...I called him what he is.
He's no star he's a Narcissist and calling him a star plays right into his view of himself. He's no Hollywood star but then most of them are Narcissistic predators as he is.
COURT TV should stop with the censorship ‼️‼️‼️
CENSORSHIP ‼️‼️‼️
@@VictoriaLynn59 they are hiding my comments too
@@casadelmaghreball my comments are blocked too
'' she was going to take my child to the party and i knew there would be drugs and alcohol there and thats not place for a child'' As he snorts a line of cocaine at home with his CHILD!
And his weapons.
Narcissists always have a different set of rules for you than themselves. The saying is “rules for thee but not for me”…aka Ali.
Exactly but it's never him. This is a sad case. Praying for their daughter and hopefully she's in loving hands.
He was definitely wrong for that. But even worse if the little girl was around strangers using substances.
Y pay
These two definitely cared more about self medicating and torturing each other, than their child. Sad af.
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Class A substances are NOT medication..
@@Gadfly333lol
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It was so hard to listen to her say she didn’t want her own daughter. Poor babygirl. I hope she will feel loved by whoever raises her 😭
Exactly I was shocked by that
Do you think it is possible she said it out of anger and frustration towards Ali and did not actually mean it?
Right in front of her too!
@@ThePathOfLeastResistanc*_Oh yeah huh?!! Ali said she was right there.. Damn!!_* 😢
@@AnnaLexi no. Ana spoke right to her not even 1 minute after she said it!
This is so incredibly sad. That they would speak about Amira as if no one wanted her. I hope she's with someone now who can love her like she deserves.
Yeah very sad! Reminds me of how my parents neglected their kids!
Anna let her be exposed to violence, drugs and DV. Horrible mother!!! She could have ran away with her child.
Amira is with Ali’s mother now.
Absolutely I feel 100 percent just like you well said so dam sad
@@debkb7 She's young enough to take care of her! Hopefully, she will be a good mother to this poor little girl who has suffered enough. And, she can visit her Daddy in prison. I know what he did was horrible, but that IS HER DADDY! It's not about Ali's right to see his daughter, IT'S ABOUT THIS LITTLE GIRL'S RIGHT TO HAVE A FATHER! She already lost her mother! She needs her DADDY! 😔💔
I’ve never seen two people who care less about their child.
So sad, poor Amira.
There's definitely far worse. They were just two young people who shouldn't have a kid let alone early because they clearly weren't ready to commit to the responsibility. But that literally describes millions of people.
But on the other hand a lot of what he’s saying, Ana isn’t here to defend … I know that if someone is beating me up every other day and controlling my every move … I don’t believe anything he says about Ana saying ,. He is a punk a#% coward when you have to hit a women especially when your way bigger than the women
I think its a clear case of mental issues , physical and emotional abuse and substance abuse! We can hate what the guy did but she is just as guilty as him! It honestly reminds me of my family the way they fought and neglected the child needs!
@@meatyboy8811 she’s not “guilty”. She’s dead.
I really don’t understand what he hopes to achieve. He just looks and sounds unhinged. He’s trying to convince us that he was justified in abusing her verbally, emotionally and physically and eventually killing her. Where does he think he is?
He thinks he is in his grandparents village where women are submissive and are the property of men. Ana was supposed to learn to "behave" when Ali made her live w his mother in VA the month prior. She had her daughter w her the whole time while Ali amped up the partying in CA. That was the reason for the acrimonious remark re: Amira.
@@miaknig3130 Exactly, that's how I understood that comment too.
This guy is trying to paint Ana as this horrendous person, but his escalating jealousy, control and attempts at manipulation, are what led to this and meanwhile he was being unfaithful and using substances as well. And, how is any of this a reason to just go and shoot her and her friend in the head? Just get a divorce, like other people do!
He doesn't show any real remorse and the fact that he had started recording Anna, before he riled her up each time, shows some premeditation too imo. That along with the fact that he placed the listening device in his daughter's iPad?
He's completely psychotic.
I totally think that he actually believes that he IS Scarface too.
This guy really is trying to justify his actions to her reactive abuse. He thinks he can "create" a narrative like this is TikTok or something.
Knowing their daughter has to hear these recordings on the internet forever is so disturbing. He should have pled just to avoid hurting her further. She lost enough. Now she has to hear this someday? That poor little girl, man
Hes trying to show (And did a good job with recordings) that it was both of them. She was just as bad. They were both toxic and rude and mean to each other. Manipulativ. BUT....she didn't deserve to die and Ray, definitely didn't deserve to die. RIP.
@@cookiesnruntz He made her become a bad person. I really believe she cares for her Daughter and wanted the relationship to work and to be a family, but constantly being manipulated and abused by a guy like that with drugs involved it would be horrible for anyone. Regardless she didn't deserve to die.
The fact Ana is saying she doesn’t want their daughter is so sad
“She’s not my daughter, I don’t want her” that’s a lot more than sad. It’s horrifying to say about your child.
@@citrusbloom7504 agreed
Yes and her daughter is there.
@@SylBeB-wp1gg at the trial?
More like abusive front of her daughter...
The more I watch, the more I suspect that it wasn’t a matter of ‘if’, but rather ‘when’? 🤦♀️🤷🏼♀️
Hearing Ana openly talk about her daughter like that on camera is sickening. It would have been the best of their interest to divorce and move on from their toxicity of a relationship. It sucks that Ali still wanted to pursue the relationship when she didn’t respect him anymore. Any form of domestic violence that occurs should immediately conclude the relationship
I agree but I feel like she was saying that because in the past, he probably used their daughter against her. Like “ You’re not taking her” and she just wanted to leave and not deal with the games. Either way, it’s gross and upsetting to hear. That poor kid is going to have to hear that one day and think her mom didn’t want her 😔
One thing is to have problem with your children’s father but another is to take it out on your own kids! Demented
@@keriissovery9566even if she did use their daughter against her. A mother should never say anything like that about their child. Let alone say it while the child is there and you know he’s recording you.
Insane how people choose to live and don’t realize that in the end, they are just revealing that they are nothing but losers~Pathetic! No way, would I spend a second more around such toxic negative energy! I’m allergic 😂
@HeraclitusThoughtBubblesaren’t murder trials in general inappropriate for kids to listen to?
My heart hurts for this little girl who will one day hear her deceased mum talk about not wanting her ..and can’t ever apologize for it
She was there when they were recording this. Her daughter heard this whole conversation already
@@frightfright3843Well that’s awful! Ana was selfish too.
I think she was in the same room 😢
Feel sorry for the kid. These parents are plain awful.
I never once heard the child, heard them talk about the child, they have total disregard for her and used her as a pawn. Both are pathetic pieces of vulgar crap. No one should have a child who is one themselves
That whopre was disgusting, I see why he was pushed to that point, however hes an idiot for simply not just leaving... Very sad for the child , what kind of a f*&&*ng mother says that... smh
Only one parent said those thing under duress
True,Both of them were awful. Cheating on each other, doing drugs in the presence of their little girl in the house, what kind of parents are you?
This case should have been FULLY televised for DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AWARENESS!!
You are so right it can’t be easy to recognize the signs (early enough) when you’re in the middle of it😊
Right, The kind that is also perpetrated by the woman/'wife/' Mother's who negect their own child and abandon them for that 'single' life.
Absolutely agree!! These are classic patterns which must be recognized as life-threatening!!
@@karena_j_paez Life threatening as people can be sooo reckless, they bring on their own demise. Adults needs to start behaving like adults, especially parents!
@@casadelmaghreb
Exactly!!!?
Ana did seem like she hated being a mom. Saying thats not my daughter is disturbing and the fact she partied tells me she resented her
She hated hard work and responsibility.
@@SonyaOutTherefacts.. their poor daughter deserved better parents
I hope her daughter never ever sees this.
While it's sad to say
Their daughter seems better off
Without both of them
@@SonyaOutThere exactly. To see text mags she sent to Ali wanting him to work more so she can have more money WHILE SHE WAS CHEATING is disgusting. She was all about the mind games
He's toxic. She was toxic. Both selfish parents. But he was the only murderer.
He was toxic, she was abused. Abused ppl do anything.
That whopre was disgusting, I see why he was pushed to that point, however hes an idiot for simply not just leaving... Very sad for the child , what kind of a f*&&*ng mother says that... smh
@@zedmakthey’re both toxic the child will be traumatised..
Yeah, they were both very toxic .
@@zedmak are you deaf? they both toxic..
The best thing this guy could have done for himself and his daughter was LEAVE HER .....grant her wishes and just walk away
...so the next woman he catches in his web he can abuse emotionally & physically??!!
The daughter would lose no matter which parent she ended up with
They were very disrespectful and provoking to each other. Two toxic persons ruining their daughter life.
They are incredibly immature. They never should have had a child. Both of them are as irresponsible as the day is long.
But, she wanted a GREEN CARD, that is how she trapped him into marrying her!
That whopre was disgusting, I see why he was pushed to that point, however hes an idiot for simply not just leaving... Very sad for the child , what kind of a f*&&*ng mother says that... smh
@@MsJanetWoodExactly!
I was thinking the same, hearing their arguments. Then they bait each other. It's all incredibly immature for parents to act like this. Their daughter is never mentioned, it's all about these 2
That poor little girl going thru this every other day with BOTH of them. Neither was fit to be her parent. 🤗 to you babygirl hope you have a fulfilling life as much as possible.
@Raven.13 Unfortunately the child was an innocent victim of both of them. It's sad all around.
Yep, Anna let her little girl be exposed to violence, drugs and DV. She never protected her little girl. She could have took her an ran away but she stayed and wanted to play with a nutcase.
@Raven.13 Its not cool letting your little girl be exposed to DV!! SHe wanted to play with this nutjob when she should have been a mother and left.
She wanted to play of role acting innocent. She should have been honest and got that TRO but she didn’t bc that would affect her money bc Ali was paying for the apartment. Ana didn’t work. She underestimated this man big time. She did not deserve to die but I feel the most sympathy for their daughter. Who would take a child to party with drug and alcohol consumption. I would never act like I didn’t want my daughter that she wasn’t mine on my worst day not in any argument. She wanted to be free with money, drugs, alcohol and a boy toy.
@Raven.13 oh man! Thank you so much for saying that! She's dead and the only person alive to tell the story is her killer. So he's going to say and show whatever
This guy is dangerous. Everything coming out of his mouth is manipulative. There is no way the jury will find him not guilty
He is guilty. Thats not the question in this trial.
He even turned himself in to the police.
He’s doing time in any case.
The question is whether this was an act of first degree murder, second degree murder, or voluntary manslaughter. These all have different penalties.
@SonyaOutThere I am so incredibly torn over first and second. It's second degree all day, but this was also a crime of passion. He went there with a gun. He knew she was there with him. Did he go there intending to murder them both? He killed them within seconds of opening the door. I think I would say yes at this point.
@@Ena48145
“Heat of passion” is hard to argue, but second degree due to drug use is more likely, but he’s out of luck because there are two victims and not one so he’s getting at least several decades.
If he ever gets out, he’ll be a very old man by then.
Relationships were they neglect their child is dangerous! Not uncommon sadly!
@@SonyaOutThere this is far from heat of passion he killed her out of jealousy and anger and rage!
She didn’t deserve to die, but she’s a monster too. Who talks about their daughter like that?
Thank god he made video of Ana both of them were young parents wanted to party do drugs poor kid their daughter
She is a typical Phillipino mother, they dont like to raise their own kids they are too selfish. I dont know why men have kids with them for
Yes. For two years, this guy has been made out to be the only bad one because he committed the killing, but she was a terrible person and got a pass because she was a woman and lost her life in all of this.
@@SonyaOutTherenot the only bad person? So you’re justifying him murdering her because she was bad too? You’re one delusional sicko. The reason he was talked about badly is because he killed her! 🤦🏻♀️
Yes...most victims aren't perfect. They're human like everyone. But we're talking about the crime of murder....his crime. She will never get a chance to be better or do better because he took that away.
This must have been the most toxic couple ever.
That whopre was disgusting, I see why he was pushed to that point, however hes an idiot for simply not just leaving... Very sad for the child , what kind of a f*&&*ng mother says that... smh
The way they talked about their daughter... Plus that house was a mess. 😢
Oh my gosh, at 13:54 I heard Amira’s voice. I didn’t realize she was present. This really breaks my heart.
Woah! As a mother myself and hearing her talk about her baby like that? Whaaaaaat! He’s clearly not the only toxic person on this relationship.
Yep
Both had issues, but he chose murder over divorce.
Yep, but no one on here likes you to state any facts as then we are victim blaming. But Anna was the one that kept going back to a man that was coked up, paranoid, carried a gun and had a key to her apartment. She could have ran with the child and left but she stayed an caused all this mess.
Exactly! I’ve been saying this since the very beginning but everyone wants to make the wife to be the victim. Sad world we live in.
you are victim blaming what is so hard to understand that if you live hell on earth you will act like a 'crazy ' person like in an extreme example to make it clear imaging beeing on fire and people expecting from you to act like a grown up and not completely lose it . i do not understand why you would say stuff like that .he was abusive it is completely sealed also when he killed her he is a monster and not one of us know what hell she was living .of course she was out of her mind the crazy part would be if she was sensing that her husband and father of her childer could kill her and her being living like a regural day
I’ve never heard a defendant try and argue such immature reasons for an argument. Seriously, to be 30 something years old and explaining in court why you were so upset about not being invited to a party is absolutely pathetic. Then to hear the way they’re talking about their daughter is the lowest of low and absolutely disgusting.
I feel bad for their daughter having to witness all these outbursts.
Knowing their daughter has to hear these recordings on the internet forever is so disturbing. He should have pled just to avoid hurting her further. She lost enough. Now she has to hear this someday? That poor little girl, man
Brings back. ChildHood Memories😢
"...WAS GETTING out of control
YOU WERE A PARTICIPANT IN THE ARGUMENT. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS.
So he was cheating on her and sleeping with his other options. And then flipps the fk out and kills her and Ray when she was just cuddling on the couch. Hows it feel bro? Not good huh? Youre finished. Its a wrap.
I don’t think she meant what she said about her daughter because he was trying to control her using the daughter and I think her meanness was a way to hurt him like saying -not even our daughter is going to make me stay with you. Plus when she would leave him she always took her daughter with her and there are many loving videos of mother and daughter. We don’t know because she’s not here because he murdered her
NO mother would Said Something Like that
Yep. Ana was a tough girl and way smarter than Ali. That drove Ali nuts. He couldn't control her and he had no clue how to match her level of intelligence and toughness. That's why he resorted to murder. Killing Ana would be the only way he could have power over Ana. Ali is just another murderous POS.
Nope!!! I’m a mother of two and I WOULD NEVER!! Their daughter most likely hear it and that will stay with her for the rest of her life.
You’re probably the only person in this comment section who understands how abused women respond to the abusive man trying to control everything.
@@EdgarAllanGoshe was responding to him that way because he would use the daughter to get her to stay but she was done with his control. She didn’t mean it that’s for sure because he would’ve recorded her mistreating the daughter to use it against her. This obviously enraged him because he didn’t let her leave and he stood by the door when she wanted to leave by herself.
I feel like I’m listening to teenagers talking not adults who are responsible and have kids they were too young
Exactly.. it’s sickening…
grown a-- 29 year old and 28 year old are not too young but too old for child irresponsibility and partying. For how long do you want to baby this generation?
@@madi4481 exactly. Young parents would be 18 and 19 years old. Party days should've been over at 28/29 especially after having a baby.
Drugs turn people into coldhearted monsters..who need help
His calm demeanor is phony
They were both unstable and selfish.
Billions of people who dont have TikTok dont know who this guy is, hes not a "Star" like people who work in Hollywood.
Yup I have no idea who he is
Hollywood aren't stars either. Most are predators. Tic tok should be banned.
Same don't know him or what he's charged with either
It literally says " tiktok star ", he was well known by millions before the incident from his skyrim irl vids and clips imitating al pacino
@@donballon9170 ok
He killed two people which he should go to prison for that but god was this girl a condescending narcissist. She was something . Poor daughter.
agreed
100%
In the end it is Ali who leaves his daughter without a mother and father. Thank you judge for getting rid of this garbage forever
He is a gaslighter and stalker that committed murder.
Anna was a wofe and a mother. 2 roles that she committed too. She wasn't a Filipina party animal. This man was driven to the edge.
Girl, write him a letter; we can’t help you get picked more than you can.
@@SlimStefanithe whole comment section is peppered w these girls simpin. I guess Kohberger or Chris Watts didn't write back to therm😂
@@Kaykayu98 I mean, it basically the first rule of being a human being. Don’t murder people.
Second rule is don’t put ketchup in the fridge.
@@Kaykayu98 clearly you are just a man like him who can't get a woman😂😂
It's crazy how this guy shows no emotion whatsoever when confronted with the audio recordings. It's as if he's happy that she's dead so that no one else can have her. Just him and his memories of her.
Swinging in his chair thinking you guys see now why she needed to go
She is awful for what she said about their daughter. That’s just so messed up. You married and had her when she never asked for any of this. I stood up for you bc of the DV you took from this man was appalling, but your mouth is disgraceful.
I agree. She mindf*cked him at every opportunity. Perhaps cos' she's had enough of his narcissistic behaviour. We watch the video but we know nothing of what the victim had gone through to make her this way.
@@saralyinn0519it’s always not your fault isn’t it?
2 people can both be narcissists and in a relationship
Wow… I can’t stand anything more than victim blaming
@@AllieBFromTN You mean the child? Adulterer went where she had it coming
The way hes trying to come off as though he always spoke with this calm demeanor is actual insanity 😂
They were both equally narcissistic, manipulative, and both gaslit and shared dishonesty with one another. I truly believe this was an equal abuse situation, his abuse was physical her abuse towards him was mental. This caused a tumultuous relationship for both them and the child. Especially the emotional abuse towards their daughter. The things they said in front of the child, the partying, doing drugs w the child in the house, taking a child to parties, partying over a child’s well being. So much to unpack here. Murder is never okay EVER his choice to murder was not okay but she was absolutely also abusing him and their daughter. They both were.
Idk the details but hearing him speak he sounds like such a tool. Very cocky and arrogant.
she was pretty, trashy and unfit as a mother and wife.. They both are immature tools. She woudl drive me insane.
The details are litteraly in this whole video😂
I literally * didn't watch it all.
He's one of the biggest dumbass tool ever.
Instead of arguing they should have pitched in together and cleaned up that nasty apartment!!!
12:24 😳Ana says, _"With YOUR KID! Because I DON'T LIKE YOUR KID! You can keep YOUR KID! I DON'T WANT YOUR KID! You can have FULL CUSTODY OF HER! I am a great mother! I've had her this whole time! IT'S YOUR TURN TO TAKE CARE OF HER! I DON'T WANT HER!_
She was not a good person either. How sad for the poor little girl! Hopefully, she will be happier with her grandmother. Her grandmother is young enough to take care of her. 🌸
They were both extremely toxic and manipulative.
🧐After careful analysis, I think it was REVERSE-PSYCHOLOGY! If he thought that she didn't care, he would not fight for CUSTODY! Notice how she tested him with the phone charger? It was just a way to get him to give her CUSTODY.
@MsJanetWood Yup! It's reactive abuse and also a defense mechanism to try and get him to disengage. After so much time under your abuser's control you feel powerless...the constant gaslighting and manipulation erodes you, not to mention he owned a gun and physically beat her so there was always a risk to her and her daughter's life.
Something people seem to be missing is that for Ana to finally move on and leave him, that meant that she reached a point where she was fully fed up with his abuse. At that point its like a lightbulb goes off and so much buried anger and resentment bubbles to the surface as you teflect on how you stayed with this person and how you let them destroy you. That can be a lot to process, especially when you're actively still dealing with abuse trying to leave, and sometimes you say things you don't mean in an argument with your abuser (like what Ana said about her daughter) so that they can't hold it over your head.
Ana spent YEARS with his abuse - she probably was a shell of who she was before she met him leading up to her death. But her actions of never leaving Amira with him after he hit her show that she DID want her. I really don't think it's fair to say she's just as bad as him when we're seeing footage of her after years and years of abuse. Reactive abuse is a real thing.
@@taco-schmaco 😒💔 It is sad. It reminds me of my childhood. My father left, and everyone criticized him for it! Not realizing that it was the best thing he could of done. 🥲
@@taco-schmaco 📌I would like to clear something up. In the case of my parents, my father was the womanizer. He fancied himself a musician and liked to drink! My mother was always faithful! She dedicated her life to her kids! This life is so short! We must cherish every moment! 😔💔
Frankly, listening to this, they both sound like horrible people.
If you was paying attention, Amir was in the room : Amir was used to that kind of behavior from her father. She knew her mother would never leave her with him period. if listening: Anna❤ said, he Never took care of a Amira if you was listening 😢
They chose drugs and partying over being parents.
Love how he’s got elastic from his jailhouse boxers tying up his ponytail 🤣🤦🏻♀️ cannot believe he’s on the stand telling these shenanigans
Omg I never would have guessed that!
From his socks not his boxers
😂😂😂😂 I was wondering what that was in his hair !!!!
Lmaooo
He's probably hoping to do a Tik Tok on a ponytail "hack" 😅😅
The video of them talking about not wanting their daughter should be removed from the internet. Imagine her seeing this one day. So incredibly sad.
She was in the home.
Their daughter was right THERE in the next room when they were saying that. That poor little 6 yr old girl heard from her mother’s own mouth “I don’t want her”… not once, but *four* times. I can’t even imagine the pain she must’ve felt hearing those words uttered. A lasting memory, because her mother is dead now.
She was literally right there heading her mom say that
Court tv rocks !!! Thanks for the coverage on this !
Both narcissists and terrible parents.
I’m not so bothered by the fact that Ana said those things about her daughter. It’s very typical of someone who’s abusive like Ali to use ANYTHING to manipulate their victims and this was his way of weaponizing the child against Ana. By telling him that she didn’t want to be her mother anymore, Ana was attempting to take that power away from him the only way she could think of. She wanted to leave this monster before they had their child. That child was the ONLY reason she put up with the abuse for so many years. I don’t believe Ana meant those words at all. It was one of the only ways that she had left to try and mitigate Ali’s manipulation and abuse. And it’s evident in the fact that he immediately began attacking her worth as a mother. She was so broken and at a point of sheer desperation that she was willing to go that far in order hang onto whatever she could to save herself and regain some semblance of the life she deserved to live. And look where it got her. Hopefully her daughter grows up to understand that none of this had anything to do with her or her mothers love for her ❤ 12:24
🎯🎯🎯 Yes. People are missing that abusive people can and do use children as tools to manipulate. The only issue I have with this attempt was that her daughter was present.
Its hard to be in a relationship with a toxic partner because you also become toxic yourself it's impossible to not become crazy when you're dealing with a irrational reality.
It’s very obvious he’s treating this like an acting role
Oh yeah, he completely practiced getting up there and correcting himself still talking about her in the present tence. 😒
He and his defense lawyer is trying to portray him as the innocent victim. Too bad the video evidence shows him not the victim and on the contrary, ana was the victim. Ana was also a POS but Ali was clearly the aggressor and instigated problems. He tried to control Ana but just failed and that's what led to premeditated murder.
oh for sure! did you notice that when they played their 40 minute conversation there were parts where he was signaling to his lawyer to stop? he thinks he’s in control here 😂
For people who are seeing this and saying that Ana is such a bad mother , well she didn’t kill her husband and get arrested then try to get off Scott free . Plus seeing her in her most angry and vulnerable isn’t her complete self .there are layers to people no one is perfect . Moms deserve a break too .
Well dear. He turned himself in on the same day. So he didn’t try to get away. If there’s layers to her personality, then there are layers to his personality.
Of course, she didn’t kill him.
She was working on her US citizenship. She had to find another US citizen, Ray, as a substitute. In the process, she was taking their child, their home, and all of their assets that she was going to share with another man.
I'm sure at some point she really loved her Daughter and wanted the best for her. But the whole abusive relationship and drugs created monsters out of her and Ali, but I think he was the one who ultimately ruined the relationship. Anyone is that situation would want to get out especially if you don't love your partner and he's abusing you. He was recording her and tried to get a rise out of her by blocking the door. She took care of her daughter for the week and he didn't want that responsibility. She wanted a divorce and wanted to get away from him.
Are you serious, she was a rubbish mother. These two deserved one another. The innocent child was the victim and lucky to be rid of both these despicable parents.
@HeraclitusThoughtBubbles
That’s what I’ve been saying about the different levels of homicide and their penalties.
As to the K-1 visa. It is feasible that even if Ana could not proceed to renew her green card due to a divorce from Ali, then she could have returned to the Philippines 🇵🇭 and relied on Ray to apply for a K-1 visa for her.
That has apparently been her MO for a long time. She initially wanted Shawn Torres to do it, but when he was discharged back to California, he left her. Ali was the next guy she counted on for that. Ray could have been a third.
She also had a (I believe US-born daughter) and so, that would have helped her find a way to stay on US soil if she could show that Ali was too dangerous.
@@wendy1052 Absolutely agree....well said!
He didn't have to kill the lady, but baby girl didn't have a fighting chance with either of them as parents! Hopefully baby girl is in a loving home and giving her the chance to have a healthy, happy, and normal life.
Not if she's stuck with Ali's mom. Ali's mom is a lying POS, nutcase too. Too bad nothing is known about Ana's mom or family side.
He has no defense. He will be found guilty.
LOL no $h!+.
He turned himself in. He’s not denying his guilt.
It’s not a question of guilt, but where he lies on the spectrum of culpability.
I disagree, I'm not sure how she died as I am watching thru the court coverage...However that wife of his was a nasty human being and I'm basing that on the videos Isaw, not his words. Nasty woman.
@@ThinkingTooHard57
He won’t be exonerated because his wife was a nasty person, which, BTW, I agree she was.
His only defense against 1st degree murder, if anything, is being under the influence of cocaine at the time of the commission of the offense. This may reduce the conviction from 1st degree to 2nd degree murder.
“Heat of passion” likely won’t be found since too much time passed between the time he heard his wife and her boyfriend together and the time he got there.
Either way, he’s doing time. He’s not walking any time soon.
@@ThinkingTooHard57 he testified that he k***ed her but yes I agree , wife was toxic as well.
Cry...adulterer had no defense
So sad how they talk about their daughter in FRONT of her
The judge is thinking this is a waste of my time
There can always be a new judge that will take his job seriously too! 😊
He was worried about drugs and alcohol at the party yet is high on drugs and alcohol every day under the same roof as his daughter. And he says .. if there’s guys there .. he didn’t care about anything but her leaving him
They're just two children in adult bodies, struggling in an abusive narcissistic cycle.
I believe both Ana and Ali are both narcissists. She did not deserve to die but she should have been up front and honest with Ali. She should have moved out of the apartment knowing he was abusive and both are in active addiction. She knew he had access to the apartment bc he rummaged the apartment that morning. Why would she feel so comfortable to chill with another man Ali did not like. Ana liked the lifestyle Ali gave her but did not want to help herself.
@@debkb7 That is my question! Everyone said she was so afraid of him yet she goes to the apartment, sees he’s trashed it, her stuff is thrown away, the flowers are destroyed… so she brings a guy up in there and snuggles up on the couch, knowing that Ali has a key and had been there hours earlier in a rage!!!! Please make it make sense!!!😵💫🫣
@JackieOlantern It will never make sense. What really bothers me, is she had numerous opportunities to tell the police he had a gun, but didn't. If she was that afraid of him, I'd think that would be the first thing she did.
@@debkb7That apartment was a marital asset. Why should SHE be the one to leave? He should have been the one that got locked up. He had no right to murder her in her own child’s home.
@@JackieOlantern I think she just got conditioned to his erratic behaviour. I don’t think she ever thought he would kill her. Victims tend to downplay the actions of their abuser.
I felt so sad when they said they didn’t want their daughter 😢. I hope she in loving family
What a toxic relationship that was. I feel sorry for their daughter to have to hear this when she’s older. She’s gonna find out that neither of them truly cared for her. Such a sad case not for the parents but for their daughter. Why mess up her world. I’m so sorry little one.
Their daughter lived thru this BS with them she already knows
Their daughter is now eight years old. I wonder how they told her he killed her mom? She’s old enough to understand now. 😔
Idk much about this ..but seems like wife hated him and the child. Guessing this dude snapped from the constant stonewall. Both highly immature, but so is tic tok
It's exhausting listening to the both of them. Pure toxicity and immaturity from BOTH of them. It's not surprising one of them ended up dead😮
Her saying i dont want my daughter broke my heart, even if she was triggered or mad, this relationship was toxic on both sides, i see this on a daily with my friend only.. (glad im single) and ik glad there no guns allowed here because if that was the case.. there would be 60 times it coulve happened on both ends. Im sorry for the child who lost her mummy and dad. Hope she can find her own happiness 💕
She was sent to live w is mom in VA for a month prior to this. She had Amira w her at all times and always kept Amira. She planned on getting full custody w visitation based on his mental health disability. She probably said it to test him, but her actions proved that she was the primary caretaker and never left her daughter w him for safety reasons.
@@miaknig3130 yeah or maybe even like , no you take care of her, like in a way of (its youre daughter too.. and i get that, but her drug use was a big issue too.. its just saddd
@@Ariesstar29 there's a reason that the courts contested his family getting custody of Amira. Ana had Amira w her at all times and never felt safe leaving her w Ali. Given that she had just had Amira for the past 6 weeks solid w no break at all, I'm guessing she was frustrated or was saying it bc he refused to take care of Amira and she was trying to see if he would help for even a few minutes. She was going for full custody w only visitation for him and supervised visitation at that, due to his violence toward his wife, mother, sister and any women who upset him
@@miaknig3130 yes!! Good observation, i can totally understand that! X
If you listen closely, Anna Knew he was recording HER she loved her child.And would never leave her child with HIM
Poor baby girl . Poor Amira
no remorse , playing the victim, nothing she did justifies shooting her in the face , robbing little girl of her mother
He didn’t have to kill her but she didn’t even want her daughter. She just wanted to party 😬
He didn’t rob her of a mother.
That woman wasn’t much of a mother to her daughter anyways and didn’t want her.
Furthermore, she brought a strange man into their home where their daughter lives, which is irresponsible and selfish.
What mother?
He’s not a victim, she is. But the ultimate victim is their daughter…and that started long before this and by both her mom and her dad
@@SonyaOutThereexactly!!! Omg I agree 💯💯💯
He's not doing himself any favors by testifying. What a narcissist sociopath!! He's still badmouthing his wife and she's deceased!!!
She was not innocent! Played plenty of head games herself❗️
He has every right to explain things from his perspective regardless of whether it ends in his favor or not.
His wife was a terrible person who drove him mad and we all have a right to this information.
His wife was a cheating party animal. She drove him mad
Pick me’s? Common now lord. 😩
but that's why it can't be premeditated murder, because sociopathic personalities act in the moment, they don't plan a crime
She was definitely messing with him mentally but he was wrong as well I think they both needed help. Sad ending.
Yes, two toxic people in a relationship. 😔
I haven't seen everything about this case yet, and know nothing of her background. Just his. And he probably didn't get anything good from his father. Which is no excuse for his actions.
A sad ending in which another innocent child has to suffer.
I hope she now has a loving home and gets the love and help she needs to heal.♥️🙏🕊
Yup, she knew that he was in love with her, so she would play with his emotions just to hurt him. Like when he was excited to go to Miami to meet an actor from the movie, Scarface, she told him that she would drive him to the airport and that they would have breakfast together! He got all excited and happy, and then a few minutes later, she is cussing him out and tells him to find his own ride! 😔💔
She played mind games with Ali and got what she deserved.
@@simeonapajarillo6499 NO! N0! NOO00ooo...! Poor Lady did not deserve to die! She was dumb, but she did not deserve to die!
@simeonyesapajarillo6499
I felt sorry for Ann at first but now that I heard her say she didn’t want her daughter is disgusting and beyond evil! I’m a mother of two daughters and I don’t care how angry my husband makes me I would NEVER say or feel that way towards my children. She is horrible for saying that!!! Their daughter didn’t have a choice to be there!! They both brought her into their lives.
They are both disgusting and the most selfish people ever!!
She was very young, in a physical and mental abusive relationship. She wasn’t in her right mind. rip to her she didn’t deserve this
People are judging a women that was mentally and physically abused for saying something mean in the middle of a fight that I’m sure she didn’t mean. If she did, she would have left her with him and that happened zero times. She is dead and can’t explain herself so I don’t think it’s fair to confirm and judge her. I can almost guarantee He recorded her after he had pushed and poked her over a substantial amount of time. If you haven’t lived in a relationship like this you can’t say how you would act or what you would say. To me it was like you take her… I do everything and you don’t value or appreciate it so you do it. That doesn’t make her a bad mother or person. She was at her breaking point. And we have all said things we regret
@@stephanikomasara5793exactly!! Well said 💯
That whopre was disgusting, I see why he was pushed to that point, however hes an idiot for simply not just leaving... Very sad for the child , what kind of a f*&&*ng mother says that... smh
Always making excuses, many women have said this and harmed their child and other bad mum’s making excuses. No care for the child
I feel differently about Ana after hearing how she spoke about her little daughter, what an AWFUL mother.....both was disgusting parents!
you've just never been in a relationship and had an argument where you say things you don't really mean just to try and hurt your partner? pretty absurd to take one argument where she's clearly just trying to hurt him and act like it's how she really feels. and even if she did feel that way what in the world does it have to do with this coked out serial abuser psychopath murdering her in cold blood??? 🤦
@@calpoker21 no. I would never bring down my child to hurt him I would say personal things about him. Those were her true feelings she is fucked up and very stupid as well.. justice was served for both of them.
@@sushiismystyle881they were both coke heads but yes I agree with you
Everyone comenting about how she was a awful mother, I mean YES! WE CAN SEE THAT, BOTH PARENTS WERE DOING DRUGS while raising her! He's no father of the year here! To me he deserves the worst and highest punishment he could get because this is not only about killing Ana, he killed another total innocent person who never did anything to him, or his daughter , family etc. He's a plain cold blooded killer, period.
Taking videos of your wife................mmmh like Amber Heard/Johnny Depp LOL
Im mind boggled about him complaining that Anna started standing up for herself and he was shocked so he felt the need to video for evidence. He complains that Anna hurt him she really hurt him. My question is did it hurt as bad as you hurt her when you punched her in the face repeatedly? I'm very proud of Anna for standing up for herself, this shocked him so much that it just pissed him off more. Rip Anna❤
Oh I can’t wait till cross. That’ll be very interesting. This is a prosecutors dream.
Who in the world thought it was a good idea for him to take the stand ? Big mistake
Narcissistic always think they can and do talk themselves out of everything, they ALWAYS need the last say. And that will be his downfall.
Huge mistake they’re gonna send him bye bye
HUGE MISTAKE
He was perfectly fine when he was in control abusing Anna hitting her degrading her but when she started to stand up for herself he got anxiety and couldn't handle not being in control. He blames her for her new behavior for the reason he did what he did. What did you think she was going to do after you treated her like crap for years? Of course she was going to leave you. This guy is a fine example of someone you want to stay far away from. He's only happy when he can degrade others but when other stand up and he's no longer in control he can't handle it. He blatantly murdered two people and now he must pay for the choices he made
OMG that poor girl 😢 (daughter) 😭😰 living in the middle of these verbally abusive parents!!!! And physically abusive, she must have been so scared!!!😱
At times, the defense attorney’s contempt towards her client is palpable.
Her using “your kid “ is disgusting as if her daughter didn’t have a name how sad
Thank you I was looking for this comment. I’m not saying she deserve to die, but what a pos! What kind of mother talks that way about their child right in front of her. She’s literally saying, “I don’t want her. You can have her.”
@@444_Butterfly exactly yes he may be at fault for killing her but she also is at fault for being a horrible mother clearly he wasn’t lying he had proof of a video of her saying it so no denying she clearly had be on drugs to
I totally agree! Tragically she played a lot of head games, throw in the coce n drinking…. You have a sad disaster 😢❗️
@@michellestlicitra9105*coke
At the start of the video he was saying “take your kid”. They were basically saying the same thing. Mind you, you don’t know what was said or done just before he started recording this video, which he sent to various people, to make himself look innocent.
She resented him and unfortunately she hated him more than she loved her child. Their child was her tie to him and she wanted nothing to do with his narcissistic behavior. He was possessive and I think she grew tired of him, the drug usage did not help neither of them. This guy is a loser and he’s abusive and sadly their child has no parents now. He’s not accountable for his role in this and playing victim. The rage he showed in his interview says all I need to know. He recorded and showed his true colors in this as well as tried to play a role as if she’s the only one at fault. I’m just disgusted and I feel bad for the baby. Did drugs become a “coping mechanism” for them??? Keep in mind that when u are abused and you have had enough , many rebel before walking away from the relationship. He wasn’t going to let her walk away.
Yes, he was definitely not going to let her walk away! Leaving an abusive relationship is the most dangerous time in an abusive relationship, as this case illustrates.
She was just as narcissistic and psycho as him.
@@CajunAdrienne Was she? Did you know her personally, or are you forming your opinion based on what you’ve heard from others?
As hard as it may seem, we need to know when to walk away 😢😢
Yes. Killing her and her lover was BEYOND stupid.
He would be in a totally different place right now had he used those videos of her in a family court rather than here at his own criminal trial.
He could have easily gotten custody of their daughter and avoided giving her child support.
He could not see two steps ahead
Why in the world would he take the stand?? This testimony is not helping AT ALL
He has always wanted to be on TV, this was his chance
very true
I find him very truthful
So awful his Fbomb dropping was way over the top. I was shocked the Judge allowed it
He thinks he can talk his way out of it.
Since the beginning it was bad news. He appears to be narcissistic and thinks everyone is wrong but him.
Ana did not deserve to die but she was also a narcissist.
Obviously it's wrong to say you don't want your daughter however, this guy is a narcissist and her abuser. It's possible she felt the same way a victim of sexual assault wouldn't want their child either.
She could have also been saying it just to try to hurt him.
Nobody here knows.
Exactly
Suddenly I’m not feeling that sorry for her! How sad their child gets them as parents.
Thanks for posting
All I can say is, The only person I feel sad for is their daughter. Poor kid deserves better than this.
You’re right. We can’t feel sad for the two people he murdered.
@@EdgarAllanGo can you read? I’ll assume you can’t. Not one word in my comments says what anyone is “allowed” to feel. Personally, I feel sorry for the child. Have a great day 😘
@@MsGarrison your comprehension skills are lacking. You do sound like a person that would get along famously with Ali, so your illogical response tracks with that.
@@EdgarAllanGo the stupidity 😂 I can’t
Maybe he and Ms. Clenney should be friends. That way if they both get out of prison when they’re 90 years old, they can hook up, fight, and make videos.
lol they would make a great BPD couple
LMAO 🤣🤣🤣 that is too funny. I had the same thoughts. A repeat of Clenney's relationship. Toxic as ....
@@vickiforte2429 yes!
I’m DEADDDD 💀💀💀💀
Well CC only dates “rich black guys” so this loser doesn’t cut it!!! But it would have been an absolute disaster if they hooked up for sure 😂😂
Imagine how bad these other cringe/toxic Tik Tok/RUclips/Kick “Couples” are. These so called “influencers” are awful in society and this case proves it perfectly for both of them. A disgrace
Yes!!! Say it louder!!!!
I was really feeling like Ana was a victim, just trying to leave her abusive, controlling husband to make a better life for her & her child...until this day in court. She was equally awful. Ana doesn't speak to Ali as if she's afraid to be hit.
I'm definitely feeling Amber Heard in Ana's audio. Where Amber effed with a sweet tempered pacifist who wouldn't hurt her, Ana effed with somebody as effed up as she was.
The only actual victim here is their poor daughter who saw entirely too much ugliness in her short life.
So this is your first time witnessing a woman who has already survived physical abuse and in this particular video she is clearly fed up and understands the physical abuse will happen whether she is docile, indifferent or hostile?
There’s no preset behavior that a person will display consistently when being routinely abused.
Sad for the child to have two parents coked out of their minds...
He's a sick killer but she was no saint either. She was manipulative and really was leading him on and was never planning on divorcing. A woman who really wants a divorce will get one yesterday
Yes. She could have gone to shelter but she wanted her party life and her high rise apartment life that Ali pays for. She asked for the murder
@@simeonapajarillo6499wtf
She didn’t just want a divorce. She wanted a divorce from a physically abusive, obsessive, murderous coke head. There’s no “e-z” divorce strategy with a young child and a psychotic husband obsessing over you with paranoid ideations of your sexual life while he frequents sex workers and cheats frequently.
Anna was not EVER going to be able to leave Ali in a low effort ez divorce that you’ve referenced.
Lucky women you must know.
Anna was not one of the ez divorced ppl that you know.
For someone who is so fixated on sex, its going to be a very difficult life behind bars for this young man....Ouch!
They pass out free condoms in California prison
I have a feeling He'll be just fine 🙂 he hates women so much He'll be right at home.
Two children with a child they didn’t deserve. Listening to the recordings they are both childish, immature, extremely jealous & play games with each other to antagonize and provoke the situation. I couldn’t have kids and you had it all and threw everything away. So sad. I pray that the child is well taken care of and now in a loving home that cares for her and treats her with love & respect in a decent family home.
Does he really think he can win this? It’s shocking how arrogance can cause such stupidity.
He’s not looking to walk free after this trial.
He’s doing time. It’s just a matter of how much?
The absolute worst possible character traits anyone could have all put into one animal
For some reason some men (and women) think that sex equals love.
This is a case of if i cant have you then no one else will, i really feel so bad for the daughter he took her mother away for life and she will always resent the father for that
I'm kinda (not really) shocked at how many of you pour it on him how bad he is. All while this "woman" trashed her own daughter in front of her and antagonized this guy by having other men in their place while still together, and both of those circumstances would drive a partner mad and lead to something terrible. She provoked this even though no one "deserves" to be un-alived. They both were bad humans evidently so I don't know why you all are ganging up on this guy as being so bad. That's why there is laws pertaining to crimes of passion. I'm not saying he's a good person or should have committed murder of course, but she deserves some blame too. And I am one to never speak like this especially of the passed ones, but you all are being the typical crowd bullies and following the crowd only judging him. I just feel bad for this poor little daughter who will lose both parents and always remember how her mother spoke about her. She never had a chance with these two.
They were both toxic. She has a gift of provoking him and he is a narcissistic fool who could not handle rejection.
Thank you.
Before all of this on Ana came out, I had a feeling she wasn’t this sweet angel that she was made out to be just because she was a woman that lost her life in all of this.
She was an opportunist, a horrible abusive mother that wanted to put her daughter in foster care to go clubbing, and a nasty vile person at her core.
No one deserves to lose their life over this!!!! Come on!!! Ru kidding me?!? There is a thing called DIVORCe!! Also, her friend also lost her life… he killed two people!! 🙄🙄🙄
@@AllieBFromTN I wasn't justifying murder. I said that if you had read my whole comment. I would never justify murder. But, she did things to possibly drive him into a certain state of mind, plus evidently there were drugs involved, which affects their mindset. But yeah, whether you like to admit it or not, one's actions and behavior can cause another person to commit actions towards you or have a certain mindset. Not the same as "push somebody into a corner and they might jump back at you", but people can be pushed to do something. Maybe something to think about. Maybe she shouldn't have trashed and verbally disowned their daughter right in front of the daughter herself and the father. And maybe she shouldn't have potentially cheated on her hubby and had the guy(s) inside their own home. Those two things together probably destroyed this guy inside and drove him over the edge. Again, I'm not justifying it, but stating how it could affect someone. Maybe we should ask you, would you treat your kid and man like that...? Maybe you should do some thinking. If you can't see how that might affect someone who is already in a toxic relationship and apparently trying to mend it, according to him, I can't help you. All people are different and have different thresholds, and it seems she poked the wrong bear. As far as the guy, he should have known better than to assist a married woman to cheat on her husband in their own home, allegedly, because in fact this sometimes is the outcome. If they were doing this, again that's why there is "crimes of passion". It's a fact, it's not me making the laws. Maybe he should have waited for her to be single or slept with a different girl who didn't have a husband, and especially shouldn't have been in their married home. Seems like he poked the wrong bear too. Don't like what I'm saying, maybe your morals are suspect too.
Edit : I do want to mention that I specifically remember the part of his testifying when he slipped up and said he "wouldn't hit her (in public)". He accidentally admitted he hit and abused her. And I think that is despicable and disgusting, for any man to hit any woman. I despise it, I despise bullies, and in the past I would bully the bullies. No woman ever deserves to be abused by a man, ever. So please understand how I feel about that. And I easily saw him slip up and admit it, which is why his lawyer then had him make it known he did that, just not in public. I think he's a weak punk for putting his hands on her, there's no reason to justify that. Even if she hit him, then he should have just left her completely if that were the case as an example. It sounds like he just hit her or got rough with her out of his anger and /or drugs. So understand I see him for what he is regarding that, I don't care how nice and sophisticated he tried to seem on the stand. And that may be another one of those cases where these girls in an abusive relationship seem to often stay in it instead of leaving for safety and it usually ends in a bad way. As did this one.
So did HE!!
Oh. Ok. She egged him on, he egged her on. They both kept poking and proding at each other. The video recordings are very clear. This really is crime of passion in the most extreme form. Very unfortunate they could not choose to be more mature individuals. This is very very sad.
Well well the trial found him guilty of first degree so no snapping here
You clearly haven't heard other parts of this trial. They found him guilty of first degree murder. He totally planned this out and likely for months
High rise luxurious apt is a mess , happy looking couple/family is actually very dysfunctional. Sad to see it but this should tell ppl not to idolize what they see on social media. It’s all smoke and mirrors. I hope the daughter didn’t hear her mom saying that. If she did I hope she’s in the care of people who will love and value her more than her parents seemed to.
Why is he even on trial. He walked into the room and killed two people. What other explanation could he have? They were sitting on the sofa. Why are we wasting taxpayers money? The guy killed two people sitting on a sofa. What a waste of time in this trial.
Innocent until proven guilty
You obviously don’t know how the legal system works.
There are different levels of homicide culpability and all have different penalties.
@@terrymay.
He’s guilty. He’s not contesting that. He turned himself in to the police.
It’s a question of what level of criminal culpability he has and what his penalty should be.
Either way, he’s doing time.
@@SonyaOutThereyou clearly have a chip on your shoulder.. your comments are something else..
@@AllieBFromTN
You clearly can’t read