I was a Mechanic at a Lincoln and Mercury dealer in 65, and we had a Comet with a 289 that had been in several times smoking. It was near warranty expiration, so one of the Senior Mechanics tried the Bona is trick, and it stopped. About a month later the customer brought it back, smoking worse than ever. We called in the Engineers from Detroit. They had us remove and disassemble the engine. They were astonished to see all of the internals coated in a mysterious crust of unknown origon. The Bonami which he thought would seat the rings, had scarred all of the internal components. They supervised a complete rebuild using all factory supplied components. I think they enjoyed getting out of the office for a week, and we got a few giggles out of the event.
The one that got away... My first car at age 19, circa '79, 66 Chevelle, paid $350 very little rust rear quarters behind the back wheels, 283 3 speed manual, Malibu, from red light to red light oh man. The previous guy converted it from column to the floor, I put in some 69 Camaro bucket seats. Can't find it today have to pay 100 percent more. Sat in the passenger seat, watched my brother wreck it, put it back together, sold it, and went in the Army, worst and best thing I ever have done. 283's and 327's were impressive, these kids of today have no idea and will never know.
I put a 1962 283 power pack in my 1956 Chevy in 1969. The 56 got some damage. I spent 100's of hours restoring it and had it painted. My sister borrowed it and it stalled. She had someone push it with their truck and their bumper road up over mine and punched both taillights in. This was the same damage it had when I bought it for $10 sitting in a field. It had taken me many hours of bondo work to restore it originally. Then the hood came up on I-44 and slammed onto the roof. I didn't have the time or money to do all again. I was in college in Springfield Mo. and worked in Branson during summer. The junk yard said they would give me $80 for it. I hot rodded thru the hills around Branson trying to blow that motor up. This was in 1973. I could not break that motor. The junk yard got a motor that was perfect. I drove it hard the whole time I had it. I went through many clutches on the 4 speed I put in it. Hurst competition Plus shifter . The best damn engine made.
I have a 1965 220hp 283 in a 79 monza spyder. Small cam. Performer manifold. 305 heads and a 770 brawler carb and a 3500 stall That little bitch revs like crazy and goes pretty damn good..
And I just thought I was old school. Remember that you didn't put new valve guide seals on the valves. If it's smoking on decell, I'd vote for valve guide seals.
I would run a compression check on those cylinders before adding any additives ...could be the rings haven’t seated or could be as simple as a valve seal leaking by . She does have a nice rumbling hot rod sound .
valve seals may be possibility maybe. They get old and brittle and bust up into pieces after being revived and revved up so oil can get sucked down the valve guide and into the combustion chamber and smoke. I dont think its the rings, they would smoke from the first start up. This is a common issue with engines that use umbrella seals or just the o-ring type as well.The cause is old age and drying up. I think I just described myself. The fix is very easy and can be done without removing the heads. Now you probably know all about this but i was just making sure , I could be wrong just trying to throw ideas out there , hoping I can help
I've never changed a set of valve seals but have been thinking I wanted to try doing it on the Rambler ending down in Georgia. I'm going to be squirting air in the offending cylinder today to see where it goes. Actually it would be a great engine to do my first valve seal swap without removing the heads, in practice for doing it to the Rambler in Dixie. I'll be looking into that more today.. Thanks Cigarcaptain for the support.
The best way to bed in piston rings is to keep the RPM low and the load high...In other words you need to find a long hill and use a high gear and labour it for as long as you can.(30-40secs at a time) giving a break every now and then..about 1/2 hour and it's done...Just sayin'
Good old Bonami , you know chevrolet actually did just that the first year of the small block to seat the rings because they did something wrong honing or the rings were not right or something ...true story to anyone that doubts me , google it LOL , one can down the carb LOL
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Nothing beats the sound and feel of a small block chevy !
That's true...mostly.
Chevy nah Pontiac any day
Mopar
Hey if you gotta v8 you winning by me but a good L87 327 sounds sweet
I was a Mechanic at a Lincoln and Mercury dealer in 65, and we had a Comet with a 289 that had been in several times smoking. It was near warranty expiration, so one of the Senior Mechanics tried the Bona is trick, and it stopped. About a month later the customer brought it back, smoking worse than ever. We called in the Engineers from Detroit. They had us remove and disassemble the engine. They were astonished to see all of the internals coated in a mysterious crust of unknown origon. The Bonami which he thought would seat the rings, had scarred all of the internal components. They supervised a complete rebuild using all factory supplied components. I think they enjoyed getting out of the office for a week, and we got a few giggles out of the event.
How 'bout that.
Coffee time my friend have a blessed day kind Sir l still miss my 57 Chevy l loved that 283 (Doug in Ga)😎
Yea, that's an easy car to wish you had back.
I had a '66 Chevy Malibu with a 283 and straight exhaust. I liked the way it sounded in the morning. The neighbors not so much. lol.
Yea, I can imagine.
The one that got away... My first car at age 19, circa '79, 66 Chevelle, paid $350 very little rust rear quarters behind the back wheels, 283 3 speed manual, Malibu, from red light to red light oh man. The previous guy converted it from column to the floor, I put in some 69 Camaro bucket seats. Can't find it today have to pay 100 percent more. Sat in the passenger seat, watched my brother wreck it, put it back together, sold it, and went in the Army, worst and best thing I ever have done. 283's and 327's were impressive, these kids of today have no idea and will never know.
It's great to have the memory. Thank you for your service.
I put a 1962 283 power pack in my 1956 Chevy in 1969. The 56 got some damage. I spent 100's of hours restoring it and had it painted. My sister borrowed it and it stalled. She had someone push it with their truck and their bumper road up over mine and punched both taillights in. This was the same damage it had when I bought it for $10 sitting in a field. It had taken me many hours of bondo work to restore it originally. Then the hood came up on I-44 and slammed onto the roof. I didn't have the time or money to do all again. I was in college in Springfield Mo. and worked in Branson during summer. The junk yard said they would give me $80 for it. I hot rodded thru the hills around Branson trying to blow that motor up. This was in 1973. I could not break that motor. The junk yard got a motor that was perfect. I drove it hard the whole time I had it. I went through many clutches on the 4 speed I put in it. Hurst competition Plus shifter . The best damn engine made.
I think so too. Thanks for sharing. Sorry for your loss.
I have a 1965 220hp 283 in a 79 monza spyder. Small cam. Performer manifold. 305 heads and a 770 brawler carb and a 3500 stall
That little bitch revs like crazy and goes pretty damn good..
I bet it does. Love them things.
What cam. I have a 77 monza I'm putting a 283 in
Got me a 301 going together
Sweet! .30 over.. Nice.
And I just thought I was old school. Remember that you didn't put new valve guide seals on the valves. If it's smoking on decell, I'd vote for valve guide seals.
I'll be looking into that today Joe.
I got me my SS Malibu with a 4speed 283 all stock
That's awesome..
That 283 is one of the first engines to make one hp per cubic inch
Yea.. True.
The crysler 300 hemi might have beat it, not sure.....
I would run a compression check on those cylinders before adding any additives ...could be the rings haven’t seated or could be as simple as a valve seal leaking by . She does have a nice rumbling hot rod sound .
I'll be doing that today I think. Yea, I love the sound. Love everything about this car at the moment, almost.
Yessir!
Yessiree Bob
Don't forget cutworm (Doug in Ga)😎
I never forget Cutworm.
valve seals may be possibility maybe. They get old and brittle and bust up into pieces after being revived and revved up so oil can get sucked down the valve guide and into the combustion chamber and smoke. I dont think its the rings, they would smoke from the first start up. This is a common issue with engines that use umbrella seals or just the o-ring type as well.The cause is old age and drying up. I think I just described myself. The fix is very easy and can be done without removing the heads. Now you probably know all about this but i was just making sure , I could be wrong just trying to throw ideas out there , hoping I can help
I've never changed a set of valve seals but have been thinking I wanted to try doing it on the Rambler ending down in Georgia. I'm going to be squirting air in the offending cylinder today to see where it goes. Actually it would be a great engine to do my first valve seal swap without removing the heads, in practice for doing it to the Rambler in Dixie. I'll be looking into that more today.. Thanks Cigarcaptain for the support.
Have a great day
Thanks Big Daddy
I run Castrol GTX motorcycle oil 10W40. In my 66 Continental It has more zinc in it. I just grab it at Walmart
I see.
I agree RPeek 😉
Thanks R.
The best way to bed in piston rings is to keep the RPM low and the load high...In other words you need to find a long hill and use a high gear and labour it for as long as you can.(30-40secs at a time) giving a break every now and then..about 1/2 hour and it's done...Just sayin'
Good to know.
@@rpeek AJAX is the way the "Older" guys did bed in Diesels but not good for our gas engines...Just sayin'
@@ziggassedup Good to know
Well you finally got the ass end out of the garage......😂😺🤠
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Good old Bonami , you know chevrolet actually did just that the first year of the small block to seat the rings because they did something wrong honing or the rings were not right or something ...true story to anyone that doubts me , google it LOL , one can down the carb LOL
Yep that's true. We used to doctor up old junk yard motors with it and thick motor oil in the crank case and run 'em till they blew...
you look like you have a lot more energy these days R
Yea, I'm feeling pretty good. That's true.
WELLL, OLE BOBBIE BOB I''LL GIT THE MOONSHINE AND TRI TI UNERSTAND JUE WHIT YOU IS A-TALKINGE 'BOUT
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Talk but never saw the car or the motor or how much h.p.
Guilty as charged.
You can’t run it that low bro your going to throw out a rod
She's still workin'
I took your advice and mines fine too ima lower the idle a we bit more today
I've heard better..
Gold Star..