Why Moses' Version of the Flood is the Most Reliable Ancient Account
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There are many ancient accounts for a devasting flood. Why should we trust the version offered by Moses? In this clip from a message given at Pacific Coast Church, J. Warner examines the Old Testament flood account to see if the ancient record of events is reliable.
In Jonah he writes "I DESCENDED TO THE ROOTS OF THE MOUNTAINS".
Well, Plate Tectonics teaches that the sea floor expands outward from within the earth and pushes beneath the neighboring plate in a subduction zone, pushing out mountains and volcanos and causing earthquakes particularly in the Ring of Fire region.
The ocean floor is "the roots of mountains"
The secular version of plate tectonics is completely impossible. There is no way to push or pull continents with the crust. There is no way to subduct the crust either, as in cold slab subduction that causes the slab to sink into a hotter (“less dense”) mantle.
The motion of the continents is best explained by the continental sprint that ensued because of the Flood.
Today’s drift rates of continents is essentially residual kinetic energy from continental sprint that began ~ 4400 years ago.
So the continents and their plates decelerating are causing sea floor spreading, not the other way around.
@@mmaimmortals The interior of the Earth is heated by radioactivity, creating convection currents. The crust floats on a sea of molten rock, which is moved by these convection currents. Certainly, catastrophic events can cause a burst of speed; we see this today in earthquakes, which can shift features by several feet in a matter of minutes, but there is also an underlying motion to the tectonic plates caused by convection. You also error in assuming that the mantle being hotter makes it less dense: density is a function of composition and pressure, as well as temperature. While we usually think of solids and liquids as incompressible, they do get compressed as pressure increases, just much slower than the hyperbolic relationship between pressure and volume exhibited by gasses. Water at the bottom of the ocean is about 2% denser than water at the surface, and this effect is magnified the deeper you go.
This has become one of my favorite videos of all time. I'll probably be watching this multiple times out of awe. I've always said that the Bible and sciene are not completely mutually exclusive. I can't even completely describe how much this spoke to me and relates to my personal life and love of space and the deep sea as a Christian. Currently on a mission of reading the complete Bible and CAN'T WAIT to get to Job to dissect it further!
Your post is relatable to me. It seems we should be more inspired by the deep blue sea, as well as the vastness of space, being believers in the Creator God of the Bible.
Thanks for your post!
The putative conflict between science and 'faith' is not about the ordinary facts, hypotheses or ever-changing theories of science, but about the modern underlying dogma of materialism that dominates the philosophical attitude of most modern scientists and indeed, ordinary people.
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This is the conflict: has God spoken the cosmos into existence, or is is merely an unexplained 'given' that means nothing. At root the conflict is of world views. The worldview of metaphysical materialism (which undoes itself oxymoronically) on the one hand that tells us that nothing means anything (no one lives that way, by the way) and on the other hand the worldview of the Bible is that everything means something because it is the creation of the loving God.
I also decided to return to this video for a full understanding. The information about the Book of JOB being the oldest book in the bible, is itself special.
Hmm, if the old bible described the earth as round, why did everyone believe in a flat earth until Aristotle? And even then most people did not believe him until about 700 ace.
God and science are not mutually exclusive. Science is just the study of God's creation.
Spot on about Mormon theology. I was taught an incorrect dogma as a child. I praise others like myself who broke away. Thank you for enlightening us.
Praise the Lord for he is the one who removes ours scales.
Amen@@bobbyidk5751
Romans 1:20
-For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities - his eternal power and divine nature - have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
Truly the universe and nature itself testifies to God's existence. People are without excuse.
I love this video, I have read through the Bible books and verses that he is referencing many times, it is my personal conclusion that ancient peoples and people's that lived pre flood may have been more advanced than we give them credit for.
Waaaaay more advanced.
Agreed
and stronger with ancient ingenuity.
Check out artifacts that were found in coal deposits. Coal deposits were created during the flood.
That just shows you how modern science is in fact going backwards due to corrupt individuals.
I have watched you on Dateline during covid and am so blessed to find you teaching/preaching. Thank you.
Your videos have been such an amazing help in overcoming the lingering doubts that held me back from embracing the Truth, which my intuition had been telling me for years. I think you've been the second biggest influence in my conversion, second only to Jesus Himself. I thank you from the bottom of my heart. This video, in particular, is awe-inspiring. Praise God!
@17:50 "Paths of the ocean" could also describe migration routes of marine animals; something which would have been equally obscure to the ancients as ocean currents.
Thank you for this teaching. We need it in these days of increased atheistic contention. God bless and increase you and your house.
Glad it was helpful!
Ancient Middle East cultures thought the earth was a giant (circular) snow globe. The dome over it was the sky and the land was the bottom.
The Bible is Amazing. I love it. i have to give it up to Jim, his presentation is always impeccable, very effective.
God bless you and your ministry.
' i descended to the roots of the mountains ' i only learnt last week from geological sources, that mountains have roots.
There are also rivers in the ocean. It's in the book of Job.
The rootless mountains were broken off during the flood and redeposited
Roots, like trees.
@@lynnv8501 Yep science only catches up with what the Bible already knew. That's one of the best proofs of God
warmest greetings from NC, USA...utterly fascinating mr. wallace! unlike so much of the drivel written, filmed and spoken of online these days, the content found herein simply shouts truth, truth! i actually feel edified and blessed to have consumed ithis content rather than worse off for having sat thru the presentation, hoping at some point it would redeem itself, only to find myself, at the conclusion, wanting to holler at the presenter and scrub my eyes, ears, mind and heart of the nonsense i'd just endured...you are doing a great thing here sir...i pray your message spreads like wildfire- i will certainly do my part as best i can by verbally recounting and citing your finds with all those who will listen- as i am not on social media so thats the only way i can share- the old school way hahaha. we are told as disciples it is our primary duty in this world, as tough as it is in this PC worldview were almost legally trapped in, to help others get ta heaven by sharing the Word. i truly think if we can tap into the logic behind bible belief, as you have done, far more individuals will see these truths, or at least the seed of thot will be planted, and individuals then begin to seek. and as we know, when we seek, things begin to be revealed because we've shown faith- and then the more we see, the stronger the faith- then the stronger the faith- the more we see, the more the holy spirit can reveal because we are ready to receive the revelation...but thats just me...er my opinion rather...no scholarly expert here ;) well ive rambled on enuf i guess...thank you again for your work, for the workers are few...may God richly bless you now and forever, amen
Fascinating to see the result of God's revelation through the mind of human beings in the scriptures.
@Zero Down what do you mean
Definitely got it right According to the scriptures.
Introduction: Genesis
Author: Moses
Topic: the beginnings
Date: ca. 1445 - 1405 BC
background:Genesis appropriately appears as the first book of the Old Testament and serves as an essential introduction to the entire Bible. The Hebrew title is derived from the first word in the book, bereshit ("at the beginning"). "Genesis", the title in the Spanish Bible, Greek translation of the Hebrew title and means: "the origin, the source, the creation or is the beginning of something". Genesis is "the book of origins".
The author of Genesis is not designated in the book. The testimony of the rest of the Bible, however, is that Moses was the author of the entire Pentateuch (ie, the first five OT books) and, consequently, of Genesis (eg, 1R 2: 3; 2R 14: 6; Ezra 6:18; Neh 13: 1; Dan 9:11; Neh 13: 1; Dan 9: 11-13; Mal 4: 4; Mr 12:26; Lk 16: 29,31; Jn 7 : 19-23 Acts 26:22; 1 Cor 9: 9; 2 Cor 3:15). Also, ancient Jewish writers and early church fathers unanimously testify that Moses was the author / editor of Genesis. therefore all the history of Genesis precedes the life of Moses, his role in writing Genesis was mainly to integrate, by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, all the chronicles and writings, from Adam to the death of Joseph, which are now preserved in Genesis. Perhaps an indication of the historical chronicles that Moses used in writing Genesis is found in the eleven occurences of the phrase "these are the generations of" (Heb. 'Eleh toledot), which can also be translated "these are the stories by" (see 2: 4; 5: 1; 6: 9; 10: 1; 11: 10,27; 25: 12,19; 36: 1,9; 37: 2). Genesis accurately records the creation, the beginning of human history, the origin of the Hebrew people, and God's covenant with them through Abraham and the other patriarchs. Their historical veracity as inspired Scriptures is certified in the NT by the Lord Jesus (Mt 19: 4-6; 24: 37-39; Le 11:51; 17: 26-32; Jn 7: 21-23; 8: 56 - 58) and the apostles (Ro 4; 1Co 15: 21-22,45-47; 2Co 11: 3; Gal 3: 8; 4: 22-24,28; 1Ti 2: 13-14; Heb 11: 4-22; 2P 3: 4-6; Judg 7,11). Modern archaeological discoveries confirm its historicity. Moses was extraordinarily prepared by his education (Acts 7:22) and by God to write this unique book of the Bible.
Purpose: Genesis provides an essential foundation for the rest of the Pentateuch and all the biblical revelations that follow. It preserves the only trustworthy story about the origin of the universe, humanity, marriage, sin, cities, languages, nations, Israel, and the history of redemption. It was written according to God's purpose to give his covenant people in the OT and NT a fundamental understanding of himself, creation, the human race, the fall, death, judgment, the covenant, and the promise of redemption by the middle of the seed of Abraham.
Overview: Genesis is naturally divided into two main parts. (A) Chaps 1-11 provide an overview of the origin of famine from Adam to Abraham and focus on five epochal events. (1) Creation: God created all things, and Adam and Eve whom he placed in the Garden of Eden (chs 1-2). (2) the fall: Adam and Eve by their transgression introduced the curse of sin and death into human history (ch. 3) (3) Cain and Abel: This tragedy set in motion the two fundamental currents of history: civilization humanist and redemptive remnant (chs 4-5). (4) The universal flood: The ancient world had become so bad in the time of Noah's generation that God destroyed it with a universal flood, saving only righteous Noah and his family as a remnant (chs. 6-10). (5 )The Tower of Babel: When the post-Flood world unified in idolatry and rebellion. God dispersed it by fragmenting language and culture, and scattering the human race throughout the earth (ch. 11). (B) Chs. 12-50 record the origin of the Hebrew people and focus on the progressive redemptive plan of God through the lives of the four great patriarchs of Israel: Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. God's call to Abraham (ch. 12) and his covenant relationships with him and his seed form the decisive beginning of the realization of God's purpose regarding the Redeemer and redemption in history. Genesis concludes with the death of Joseph and the impending enslavement of Israel in Egypt.
special features:
Seven main aspects or emphases characterize this book: (1) It was the first written book of the Bible (with the possible exception of Job) and records the beginning of human history, sin, the Hebrew people, and redemption. (2) The Genesis history encompasses a longer period of time than the rest of the Bible. It begins with the first human couple, spreading into pre-Flood world history, and then concentrating on Hebrew history as the redemptive stream that runs through the rest of the OT. (3) Genesis reveals that the material universe and life on earth are clearly the work of God and not a process independent of nature. Fifty times in chs. 1-2 God is the subject of verbs that show what He did as Creator. (4) Genesis is the book of the first events: it records the first marriage, the first family, the first birth, the first sin, the first murder, the first polygamist, the musical instruments, the first promise of redemption, and so on. . (5) God's covenant with Abraham, which began with his calling (12: 1-3), was formalized in ch. 15 and ratified in ch. 17, is of central importance throughout the Scriptures. (6) Only Genesis explains the origin of the twelve tribes of Israel. (7) It reveals how the descendants of Abraham ended up in Egypt (430 years), thus setting the scene for the exodus, which is the central OT redemptive event.
Fulfillment in the New Testament:
Genesis reveals the prophetic story of redemption and a Redeemer who comes through the seed of the woman (3:15), from the line of Seth (4: 25-26), from the line of Shem (9: 26-27) and of the seed of Abraham (12: 3). The NT applies 12: 3 directly to God's provision of redemption in Jesus Christ (Gal 3: 16,29). Many people and events in Genesis are mentioned in the NT in relation to faith and justice (eg, Ro 4; Heb 11: 1-22), God's judgment (eg, Le 17: 26-29,32; 2P 3:63 Jude 7,11a), and the person of Christ (eg, Mt 1: 1; Jn 8:58; Heb 7).
I love this!! I agree with 99% of it and had questions on 2 points, and the seed of the woman thing was important for me to learn right now. Thank you. Do you have this written somewhere else and do you have more written please?
GREAT SCRIPTURES!
Is 40:22
Prv 8:27
Job 26:7
Is 45:12
Gen 1:1 (Ken Ham will be happy...)
1Cor 2:6-7
2Sam 22:16
Gen 8:1-2
Ps 8:1,3,6,8
Job 36:27-28
Eccl :6-7
Heb 1:10-11
Job 38:31-32
Yeah, I know, I missed some...
IMHO
Thank you for noting the references, much appreciated
Wonderful video, it took me longer than the 30 minutes of the video because I had to stop it so many times to write things down. How mighty is our God!
Glad it helped!
I find this sermon profound in it's simplicity!
Wow, the pleiades stuff blows my mind. "Cans't thou bind pleiades together?"
I am dumbstruck.
og hebrew doesent say Pliedes
amazing video! I love studying about how the Bible plays out history and science... People always put one agaisnt the other like they can’t coexist! I always said they work together, for God created science. God is the greatest scientist of all times
Glad you enjoyed it!
Throughout scripture we're taught that His voice is described as being (like) the sound of many waters. MANY WATERS. Like a flood. Like the flood of Moses day purged the Earth of unrighteousness, so WILL His voice purge OUR carnal mind of unrighteous beliefs, miscomprehensions, misunderstandings of who the Son really is. So His voice will always cleanse our carnal minds of misbelief, or unbelief & clarify who He truly is. Cleans our Adamic minds until we fully retain the mind of Christ. Amen 😉
2:38 I have two:
1. The Earth and all other planets and stars are hanging in space: Job 26:7 "He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing."
2. The universe is expanding: Job 9:8 "He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea."
(edit: It was mentioned later)
I dont know if the bible has scientific errors or not but can we refute the claims ?
@@derinderruheliegt do you agree with the Bible
Book of Job was written during Jacob and Joseph timeline, before Moses.
This is an amazing video. It needs more views.
Yup
AGREE AGREE AGREE
J Warner Wallace has great stuff on Christian apologetics.
AMEN BROTHER!
Fascinating! Have you ever considered that the fountains of the great deep may have burst forth from the mid Atlantic ridge during the great flood?
Check out the god culture. Rivers from Eden series. It's fascinating
The mid Atlantic ridge is from the continents breaking apart.
The fountains of the great deep breaking open had to be in the ocean as it existed pre-Flood.
They therefore could not have been any direct part of the mid Atlantic ridge since that ridge was under the continental mass before the Flood began.
It seems that what those fountains is actually referring to are the water chambers that existed under the ocean floor.
The US now sits ~ 2000 miles away from its original location, and may actually sit on top of some of those original fountains (water) of the great deep (ocean).
Today, there are over 800,000,000 gallons of water that pour out every single day from the state of Missouri alone.
The US is literally sitting on top of gigantic water chambers that are the source for our active springs.
Look at all the “meteor craters “ all around the world. The geological disturbances are indicative to something exiting the planet not impacting the planet. Weird how there’s not meteor fragments all around these areas. When God talks about opening the fountains of the deep , the “meteor craters “ are those fountains
I'm glad I have found this guy. I have a good feeling about him
Yes Moses got it right because he was inspired by the Holy Spirit who leads us into all truth and is our teacher
May Father YAHweh bless your understanding.
I believe I can answer the question of Moses’s account of the Flood .
The Holy Spirit have him the inspiration to write the truth .
All glory to Jesus Christ
27:04 FYI the Mazzaroth is the Hebrew Zodiac. Different seasons feature different sets of constellations visible at a given time of night. To bring them out in season appears to be a reference to the changing constellations based on what time of year it is.
Wonderful insight, and makes God so edified and Sovereign and makes us feel so right to be Worshiping the true living God, but also iterates the importance of reasoning and knowing truth and leading others into this truth.
It is my belief that Genesis 1 describes String theory. String Theory describes strings of light energy, vibrating at varying frequencies, to manifest the various densities of matter. Co-founder of string field theory, Michio Kaku described the universe as "a symphony of strings", equating those vibrations to sonic resonance. In Genesis, God first created light. Then he spoke (on the light causing it to vibrate, ) bringing everything into existence. This is something that just dawned on me one day. Now it seems a no brainer to me.
Thanks for this
Sound may be the entry point from the other dimension.
May God give the grace for this to be translated to Chinese to reach out the largest population group that's atheist. May God use me for His purpose and glory. In Jesus' name I pray. Amen!
Wow. Thank you for unlocking the secrets of scripture hidden in plain sight.
We all know this, but here's a staggering thought. Every day is has exactly the SAME amount of seconds! It's been this way since the beginning of time.
That's order and precision. Not random chance.
Hello! I recently stumbled upon your channel, and I must say I thoroughly enjoyed your discussion about the Bible. Many of the points you made regarding the Bible's alignment with science were quite familiar to me. In fact, I've already learned these insights from Bro. Eli Soriano from the Philippines.
I think Mazzaroth, which means crown, maybe a constellation yet to appear, also mentioned in Revelation, when it mentions a woman in heaven crowned with twelve stars. (Rev 12:1)
I know this isn't that ancient in comparison to Job of course, but John of Damascus mentions it in 800AD, with himself being more convinced of a globe.
And I think the globe flat controversy is actually being seen as early as Job and so is evolution from fish because all these concepts are either spoken by Job's musings or by God's rebuke towards Job for being so sure of himself on matters he wasn't there to witness
I haven't been aware of that when I've read Job before- I'll have to go back and look at that. Thank you.
An awesome lecture on the veracity of the OT. Whenever it does speak on the sciences, it gets it right always.
I know that J. Warner has only scratched the surface because there is so much that the Bible has related on Science, Medicine and Nature . The Bible has proven itself to be verified, attested true historically and supernaturally.
Yes, quarantine and sanitation noted long before microscopes were invented to observe disease causing microorganisms are just 2 more examples. Another: Don't eat shellfish. Secular version - Don't eat oysters in months without an R. In the days before modern refrigeration, shell fish spoil quickly, contaminated with bacteria. One more: Don't eat pork. There is a disease caused by the Trichinella parasite in improperly cooked pork.
This is the first time I have seen this teaching other than myself.
The best presentation on scientific facts in the bible. Amazing video.
To God be the glory.
Fantastic and informative video just proves the authority of the Bible
Not sure what Bible your reading but Jesus says we are a foot stool to his throne and we are set upon foundations just curious not one of us is righteous enough to even argue with God.
Watch aoc network video 10 facts about heaven it would give
Why do you try to bring God down to our level? Do you not know that our universe has four dimensions, which can even curve? If this is true of the material universe, how much more is it true of Heaven! Stop thinking three dimensionally and appreciate the vastness of our Creator.
The Hebrew Mazzaroth is the 12-13 constellations. Today we refer to as the zodiac (after Nimrod corrupted the original system and used it for control over the masses) . So basically The Father is asking Job if he can "keep perfect time" or can he guide the paths of the planets, spin of the Earth etc.
This is an interesting comment. How was Nimrod able to corrupt the original zodiac?
Where does it ever refer to 'spin of the Earth'??
@@deniseheupel8814 God made the stars to "mark the fixed times and seasons," but Nimrod and those who followed him used them for divination.
The "thumbs down" count for this makes no reasonable sense other than being children who don't like being told to wash the dishes.
I wonder how many of those actually listened to the talk?
I'm surprised there aren't more. There's a lot of haters out there. This must be great material for there to be such a low thumbs down count.
Uhhh, everyone is entitled to their own opinions
The Bible states that the "stars sing together." This is absolutely true: each star has a frequency. You might see the stars on earth but you must listen to the stars for guidance in space
Celeste Roney You do realize that sound doesn’t travel through space, right?
@@stephenfoley1479 you are incorrect
@@voidremoved You are incorrect.
@@stephenfoley1479 Sound is a description of the propagation waves through a medium. On earth, the medium is generally air, liquid or solid. In space, the medium is electromagnetic, but can you see how the phenomena of waves in space is exactly parallel to sound in an atmosphere?
@@joshuajones7210 Electromagnetic waves, meaning that you can see the stars? That's not news to anyone!
(but in that picture each star does not have 'a frequency', but rather some complicated emission spectrum depending on the temperature and chemical composition of the star)
The feast of trumpets lines up with the development of hearing in a human fetus we can call it coincidence but........that's a pretty big coincidence
Would you be willing to explain this a little more?
Don’t let the World rob you of the assurance that the Bible is God’s Word and it can faithfully be relied upon!
WOW, Thank you brother! I love the teachings and being aware at the very least of the specifics of Gods character and dynamics of The Almighty God in all His Holiness!!!
THANK YOU!! I have never heard the Bible this way and very much appreciate it!!
Jesus Christ The Wonderful Counsellor, True Shepherd, The Righteous One, Rabbi Teacher, Saviour sends his Holy Spirit who speaks. Jesus speaks.
What a wonderful juxtaposition of scientific knowledge and Biblical observation, merging to recognize Truth in the WORD!
God stretched out the sky, and one day it will be 'rolled up'.
Revelation 6:14. “And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places."
That's a fascinating and scary thought. What was there before, and what will be visible again once the facade is removed? Think about it, the sky (space) seems to mostly be nothing already. So it's as if we're talking about a different plane of existence. A veil removed.
Moreover, verse 16 of the same chapter says this: "And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:"
Sounds like we're going to be exposed to the spiritual realm, as the physical disappears? I don't want to blaspheme, but I remember verses such as Exodus 33:20, which says “And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.”
When you think how terrifying the descriptions of cherubim are, you can only wonder the overwhelming impression of witnessing "the face of him that sitteth on the throne", whether he looks the same as humans, or entirely different, the holiness and sheer power is so much that no human flesh could see him and live. Perhaps that's changed since Christ died and rose again in his flesh, redeeming us, but clearly it will still be a terrifying sight. Even Christ appears to John, in Revelation, as a lamb with seven horns and seven eyes. We can't comprehend the nature of the spiritual realm, so it will blow our minds.
I can't imagine the amount of time researching these. Glory to God for knowledge and wisdom.
Venoah account is in fact a ships log. So it does represent firsthand data. A study of the ages of the patriarchs will reveal that everyone before Noah's father had their child at an age approximately three times normal. But Noah and his father were not on the Assyrian three festival calendar, they appear to have been on the lunar calendar and had their children 12 times older than normal. Everyone after Noah appears to have been on the solar year with a normal birth age for each generation.
this is important because if I corrected for these and averaging them we can then use that average over the entire chronology from Jesus back to Adam. And it reveals that the Noah flood corresponds to 1631 BC which is supported by tree ring data as the time of the aquatic volcano at Santorini. Yes the Mediterranean went up in the air and then rained out in the Ararat range causing a 10 foot layer of sediment in the Euphrates and an 80 mile wide sea in the middle of Iraq which is flatter than a pancake.
it seems that the ancients were very dedicated to preserving God's truth.
in another study it was determined that rot and strength tests of the shroud of Turin could be compared and combined to produce an extremely accurate date when compared with multiple control samples of younger and older ages. The result is in fact extremely accurate. And recently it was corroborated by x-ray scattering which provides a broad multi dimensional age assay which when properly accounted will show both its approximate age (2000 years old) but also will account for subtle differences in the quality of preservation of each fabric in the control group such that multi dimensional analysis will precisely correct the ages for a very accurate date similar to the above study. Each of these papers is available at theubie.com /Noah-Flood.htm. and /ShroudDate.htm
thank you for a wonderful lecture, I also studied the Genesis account and found it was an exceptional description of the formation of light, matter, gravitational bodies, life the clearing of the skies (remember Venus is all cloudy) and even the occurrence of man. We are very blessed to be given these ancient prophetic morocles. but then which direction can one look and not see a miticle.
thanks. again.
Scholars I have read state that the Book of Job is not the oldest book in the Bible. Dr. Michael Brown is one and he is a well respected Christian.
If you consider the names of Job's 3 friends, Eliphaz the Temanite, Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite, these may give you some hints about the time when the EVENTS of the book of Job occurred, not necessarily the age of the book of Job, though. Eliphaz, the ONLY Eliphaz mentioned in any other book of the Bible, was Esau's son (Genesis 36), and his son was Teman. He probably lived in an area settled by Teman, so he was called a Temanite. Bildad was probably a descendant of Shuah the son of Abraham by Keturah (Genesis 25). Zophar the Naamathite is a mystery. He could not be a descendant of Naamah of Genesis 4, because she was of Cain's lineage and died in the flood. Nor could he be a descendant of Naaman, the son or grandson of Benjamin. Benjamin was born in 2216 FC and went to live in Egypt in 2238 FC. None of the descendants of Naaman would have been born by then.
Then, there's Elihu the son of Barachel the Buzite. The Buzites would have been descendants of Buz, the nephew of Abraham (Genesis 22:22).
Anyway, all 4 of these men were present in the time of Genesis, and we know the approximate time.
Bildad would have been born some time after 2104 FC (From Creation), Eliphaz some time after 2148 FC, and we can't be certain about the birthdates of Zophar and Elihu. But these 4 men were all present in the time of the book of Genesis.
So, around 2368 FC, I think, along comes Moses. He was eighty years at the time of the exodus. Who knows at what age he wrote the Pentateuch or if he also wrote the book of Job? He might have, or Job could have already been written before he arrived on the scene.
Since he came after many of the early events had already happened, he may have written them based on verbal memory accounts of the elders, like the present books of Enoch had to be written after the division of the languages at the tower of Babel and the taking away of the knowledge of the original language (of man, God, and the original book of Enoch). The BOE WOULD BE the oldest book, if we had it. But we could not read it because God took away the understanding of that language.
Gloria al señor hermano Wallas, glory to God brother. The truth of jesus set us freeeeee!! 📖♥️😀👍
*_The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:_*
*_The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:_*
Doesn’t entropy exist because of the fall?
What brought you to that conclusion?
One good lesson from Job's rebuke by the Lord, is to recognise that my understanding is not as good or deep as I often like to presume it is. How profound is our grasp on the purpose of God in creation, after all? Not very, I'd estimate. After all, we weren't there when he laid the foundations of the world. These foundations include the principles for the world's purposes, ie wisdom, which Proverbs says was the first thing God created.
Not sure how this guy gets “sphere” from circle but these words mean two different things last time I checked and are not synonymous.
Isaiah 40:22 and the shape of the earth
by Dominic Statham
The first line of Isaiah 40:22 reads, “It is he [i.e. God] who sits above the circle of the earth.” Some have argued from this that Scripture teaches the earth to be a flat disc, rather than a globe. However, even if the original Hebrew is correctly understood to refer to a circle, this doesn’t necessarily indicate something flat; a sphere appears as a circle when seen from above-and indeed from whatever direction it is viewed. Moreover, there is good reason to believe that the word translated ‘circle’ might be better translated ‘sphere’.
Correct we love on a circle founded earth
They mean two different things in Geometry, but spheres are often referred to as circles when not in math class. Even in math class, the "common" (not textbook, but probably what the teacher says) definition of a sphere is just a 3D circle.
actually, there was a problem in the early church about them arguing over word definitions getting all hung up on them and it probably caused doubt.
Best explanation of why the Bible is accurate and God is the creator. I almost skipped over this one, but decided to watch it. Glad I did.
I absolutely love and am thankful for this video.
The mazzaroth is what we call the zodiac. It’s simply the 12 constellations.
There are ab 3k flood legends as of today & only one is scientifically accurate. Kinda have to consider that..
God did write about DNA. If you want to read this book you need an electron microscope , genomic technologies and a good scientific mind. If you want to read about God's relationship with man, & vice versa read the bible.
I've seen a presentation offering the view that the rib Adam lost was actually his chromosome, therefore males are now XY.
@@fazole Males can make females, but females cannot make males. The male determines gender always. That should be enough, but the rib that GOD used actually re-grows as well. In the rib bone is everything needed to start another body blank. Scientists in cloning know this.
@Oftin Wong Seriously, the floating rib is able to regrow!! [So Adam's would've regrown...
Here's four sources attesting to just that:
1 news.usc.edu/68485/rib-regeneration-studied-in-mammals/
2 www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2756968/We-regenerate-Researchers-reveal-ribs-regrow-damaged-say-true-entire-skeleton.html
3 answersingenesis.org/human-body/the-amazing-regenerating-rib/
4 www.s8int.com/adamsrib.html
ps that God put Adam into a deep sleep is a hint towards how we put people under anesthesia before surgery: God knew everything long before we discovered it!
@@fazole whoever said that is reaching very hard. Its essentially trying to explain how an apple is just another type of orange therefore if i can say it, then its true.
The bible is the bible and and science is science. There's notjing wrong with the separation until people start trying to shoehorn one into the other.
@@izinau And should scientists be cloning? Scientists don't appear to know it is Almighty God who is the one who creates. Read Jeremiah 1:4,5 where God speaks to Jeremiah saying "Before I was forming you in the belly I knew you, and before you proceeded to come forth from the womb I sanctified you. Prophet to the nations (of Israel) I made you." Reading Psalms 51:1-17 focussing on vs. 5 "In sin my mother conceived me." David is speaking of his own sin before it happened. But as David truly repented and made amends he did receive forgiveness.
Males having the ability to determine the sex of their offspring is not an issue as far as I am concerned. Obedience of male and female is what is the greater issue. For God has provided male and female not as one having superior ability in determining gender but for the purpose of seeking to know and obey his Laws. Obedience is what the Son of God displayed that made him perfect and acceptable to God as the means of redemption for humanity available to people who choose to be obedient in following the example of Christ in order to attain salvation.
Trust Jehovah
I would be interested to see if any Christians that discuss the theme in ancient mythology of terror of the heavens will mention the Electric Universe (Thunderbolts Project) and speak to what I believe is actual cutting edge science (Saffire project). Especially this guy, and found other mentions in the Bible of this science. I like how he mentions where God told Abraham not to fear the heavens, implying that there might be something worthy of fear.
Mazzaroth: isn't a constellation. It's a unity of 48 pictures of the night sky - which describes the rollout of the Salvation Plan. 27:13
was “sphere” not a Hebrew word? genuinely asking since a map of a “flat earth” is a circle, sphere would have been geometrically correct as a 3D object as a circle is 2D and flat by nature
circles are 2d and we live in 3d; if it were a "disk" (like a cylinder) that could be valid... but circles are 2d and an abstract concept. Their word for "ball" apparently didn't mean so perfect a sphere... so circle would be speaking of the perfect roundness I suppose. I hope this info helps point you in a direction of research but I'm just going off memory. Have a great day!
Isaiah 40:22 and the shape of the earth
by Dominic Statham
The first line of Isaiah 40:22 reads, “It is he [i.e. God] who sits above the circle of the earth.” Some have argued from this that Scripture teaches the earth to be a flat disc, rather than a globe. However, even if the original Hebrew is correctly understood to refer to a circle, this doesn’t necessarily indicate something flat; a sphere appears as a circle when seen from above-and indeed from whatever direction it is viewed. Moreover, there is good reason to believe that the word translated ‘circle’ might be better translated ‘sphere’.
Yes but I don’t believe they had maps back then or any knowledge of what earths shape was and circle although maybe 2d I believe he meant sphere. Most people thousands of yrs ago most definitely had no understanding of what shape earth was
R ight we live on a stationary founded earth
..not on a sphere but on top of a circle
The Greeks knew the earth is (roughly) a sphere, and even knew the approximate size, so I'm not sure why the presenter says it wasn't until the 1500s that people knew this fact.
I can't help but it was an ancient Greek philosopher who determined the Earth was spherical in the BC's, not the 1500's, just a nitpick though
Please understand that I am NOT condemning not being flippant - ok? But this man speaking, and every person here that comments in agreement with what is presented here - ARE SO FAR from what the Most High says - it’s heart breaking. No one seems to have a modicum of discernment(?).
I worked at NASA for a major portion of my career in tech. I have supported NASA field science efforts in the most remote points of the earth. (Antarctica - North Pole, Amazonian basin etc)
What science teaches about cosmology (creation) and what the Bible reveals ARE IN NO WAY CONNECTED! Wake up!
Modern Science is knowledge that exalts itself against the knowledge of God -- maybe y’all had better go reread Genesis 1?
Do you know what Copernican cosmology teaches ? (Evolutionary processes are a large component ). I’m impressed by the lack of knowledge so many expound upon. God help us all.
@@MeanMrMustrd I like to make sure that I state that - because texts usually come across as “crass” - and that my comments are belligerent . That’s why I open with those statements. Thanks.
I don't think God is helping you think that way
hey sir, i have a question regarding the bible!
isaiah 22:18 shows that isaiah was aware about the shape of a ball.
yet he calls the earth a circle, why is that?
i hope you see this and answer the question, thank you and God bless !
Disc earth means disc stars, sun, planets, moons. Means stationary heavenly bodies . But there's movement, people have observed movement. Is any of God's creation truly stationary?
The word is translated from Hebrew. In Hebrew the actual meaning is any circular shape including the 2D circle as well as a ball, sphere, etc that look like a circle.
The one aspect of Genesis 1 that's been hard for me to reconcile is Day 4, "He made the stars also." Are we to believe that this is chronological or parenthetical?
There are stars/angels and actual bodies of light like our sun/star.
Well, it depends on your interpretation of Genesis, and of modern science. Since we didn't live to see the start of time, space, and matter, we make guesses about what it was like, based on what we see today, and assumptions about how things always were. One camp of modern science assumes uniformitarianism and says that all laws of nature acted the same way all the time - even though we cannot prove this; if you take this as fact, then Genesis must be parenthetical, because in our current laws there was no way for vegetation to exist before the sun, and the sun before the other stars. However, another camp of modern science - backed by people like the folks at Answers in Genesis - does not assume uniformitarianism, and instead believes that God acted in the exact way described in Genesis of chronological order; they look at the world using the same tools as everyone else, and see the world as proof of a literal interpretation. You could say that the second camp treats Genesis as eyewitness testimony.
You should do your own research, and note that everyone has bias. Have a great day!
Chronological. Light was created first, THEN the stars.
God is all powerful and amazing!
Aussie Aussie - Oi, Oi, Oi!
Is god also all good?
Wait, how can you be sure that Job couldn't have known this fact about Orion's belt? When was this discovered? This doesn't seem to be mentioned here.
What, technically is a ‘point of singularity’? He said he believed in that, because the Bible says it. Is he saying the earth is really old, and we are latecomers? He also says ‘we know’ the universe is expanding. Do we? Anyhow I haven’t finished watching this. Maybe it will all come out in the wash.
•By a point of singularity he means the theory of the universe being formed by the big bang. The universe was once a tiny tiny mass of energy, infitismally small with unfathomable amounts of energy that at one point released and expanded to create this universe.
Okay, but we have to let scientists do their jobs. If the account of the flood is literal, then they might find evidence for it; if it was local, they might find evidence; if they find evidence it's neither, the story of the flood still offers the same lessons it always has.
I'm glad the Bible's always ahead of the world on things. Just be open to the possibilities the scientific account could offer.
Science is just the search for truth (through the lens of worldview). That's basically what we do as humans! Some scientists look for evidence for the Flood & others look for evidence against it. There is actually evidence that points toward global cataclysm. The beauty is that at the end of the day the truth exists, no matter what we think about it.
Science just reveals Gods creation, work purpose etc, eg If you study the human body a intelligent being had to design it.
The issue is that people don't want to acknowledge God then they have to acknowledge they are a sinner needing a saviour and that Jesus Christ is the SON of God, they need him and that Jesus is the way the truth and the life.
Science/ (without God) humanism is Pride
But every knee shall bow and confess Jesus Christ is Lord!
Coal deposits! Mass amounts of sediment that buried vegetation in massive amounts= coal deposits all over the world. It has been said that the vegetation presently on the earth could not produce the same amount of coal, the preflood world was covered with a even temperature and 50% more oxygen.
Scientists can’t “do their jobs” if their presupposition is only naturalism.
They’re wrong out the gate.
Scientists aren't a monolith of objective truth pursuers. Many are more than willing to fudge the numbers, make up evidence, etc. Very often throughout history it has been the minority of scientific critics who were right. You should never just the trust the science, and if it's a theologic or spiritual issue, then you need to go with the conviction of the Holy Spirit.
Jesus said there is no father but one call no one father but he who is in heaven the first
Springs of the deep could also be plate tectonics for the flood, superheated water coming out of the ocean
I've heard most of this many times and I almost clicked off. Then he points out job 38 and blows my mind. Glad I stayed
‘Mazeroth’. Isn’t one constellation but Is the name of the major 12 constellations and the secondary 24-36, which Together illustrate the prophetic progression to Messiah Yeshua.
I wonder why the king james translated it "sweet influences" when strong's and every other translation merely translated that word (ma·‘ă·ḏan·nō·wṯ) as chains. Either the king james translators were just taking poetic license (excellent as it might be) or there's some nuance to that word modern translators aren't getting. Just clicking on it in strong's doesn't bring up any other occurences of it in scripture.
Detective Wallace is always interesting to listen too.
Love the fact that he’s wearing the badge.
Moses was a hundred percent correct in all that he wrote and spoke ....not just on the flood ...
The OT first sentence should actually read, “WHEN God began to create….” This really makes current scientific knowledge in line with the Bible when it comes to create
That's very questionable. The word in the original Hebrew is "bereshit" which literally means "in beginning". We usually add "the" to make it smoother in English. No way to translate it with "when".
Interesting to hear on many occasions the speaker saying 'we know', but is this just another way of saying 'what we've been taught'? Sometimes a persons interpretation of scripture is simply that...a persons Interpretation. There are things of God that only God knows. Our attempt to understand is always going to come up short
Incorrect when you claimed God never taught us about DNA. He DID, he just didn't talk as specific as you'd like. But the FACT is God DID teach us about science as well.
Here's 1 example: Isaiah 49:16; "Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands; Your walls are continually before me"
~ Now Google the term "Laminan" and its function in our DNA. It literally holds everything together, without it we don't exist...and isn't it interesting that God designed Laminan in the shape of a CROSS ✝️
Praise Jesus, he truly is THEE Truth. Amen.
And what about Ps139:16 even in the archaic language of the KJV you get King Davids meaning
We lets use some common sense shall we. . .Which of them should we trust is the question. . .Well, only one of them talked to God, not the others. . .
God gave Moses the Ten Commandments, and God gave Moses the powers to defeat Pharaoh single handed and did this little thing of parting the Red Sea. . .You've got to be kidding me.
Some things are a bit far fetched because of context and misunderstanding the text but it can still be learnt: the Bible is correct when it speaks.
You can still draw a circle in a flat earth.
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Flat founded earth is indeed a circle
In the beginning (time), God created the HEAVENS (space) and the EARTH (matter)... Gen 1:1.. The first ever sentence of Bible ... Talks of Time, Space and Matter... First scientific statement also
A prophet doesn't have to have been at the event. The Holy Spirit gives them utterance and visions regarding both past and future events. 😊😊😊
3 years late. What bible translation are you using? In 6 translations that are designated closest word for word , the word springs is no where but described as fountains which of course obviously means springs. Im curious about your bible translation as with anything realted to God's word. BTW oddly I caught an episode of Dateline highlighting the Knight homicide which you and your partner finally resolved. Great work .
I know the answer for Mazzaroth. It's the Hebrew word for 'constellation'. The verse is talking about bringing out each of the constellation 'in its season', as they would appear to an observer from Earth as the planet orbits the sun.
Great verses shared. I just wish he used God's word in the KJB. Our God is great and His word is amazing.
I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name.
"He stretched out the heavens" = the expansion from the Big Bang that commenced when God said "Let there be light!".
I think the scientists should have used the Bible as their reference book. They wouldn't come with these weird explanation about universe or life. I am sure we still don't know alot about our physical world than what the Bible already does.
Robert Denzel III so you think we should still believe in egocentrism!?
where can the full presentation be found?
ruclips.net/p/PLe2_-rdg84amHqOCCtbCJHE8Var40XmZs
@@ColdCaseChristianity Can I ask if you have any insight into the prophesy of a new heavens and a new earth God promises are to be created Isaiah 65:17; 66:22; 2 Peter 3:13? Also keeping in mind Christ is a new Creation and those worshipping the Father will give Glory to the Only Begotten Son of the Most High God in His Second coming as written Hebrews 1:6 and Revelation 12:5 being fulfilled prophesy?
My God usually answers me when I don't understand but not regarding whether it will be a literal New Heavens and new earth or the same Elements and Constellations having a new Kingdom Rule by Christ who is now called Emmanuel Matthew 1:23 in the New Creation. Considering the Heavens are to be rolled up I understand that to be the wicked angels as written in Isaiah 34:4 for it will not be the obedient angels who will be of the army of the heavens will it?
People think militarised Israel is Zion and God's people but they are not. Only those obedient to the God of Abraham will possess a place in Zion in the day of redemption and blessing or retribution and severe punishment. Those who have not kept faith with justice and truth and have hidden the name of the Most High God from mankind will perish. Those having true faith will be saved.