Strategically getting second place to steal an entire first place roll with the saucer and then get a perfect second place roll is absolutely diabolical
@@wawacat6568 TAS wouldn't manipulate the random rolls, it would do things like frame perfect inputs to throw them. I noticed a few times where the roll was delayed, so there may be ways to control the outcome if you throw at the perfect time, hence the tool assistance.
Looks like you don't know anything about TAS. TAS is the short form of Tool Assisted Speedrun. You can not only complete frame-perect actions, luck manipulations is also included @@shizumeru_
@@wawacat6568By running the equivalent of multiple savestates, the bot picks the one with the best outcome. In this case, he adjusted to the swap frames to get a headstart and kept save scumming until the end. If you play from an emulator, it becomes much clearer
I remember suggesting under an old speedrun WR that you could get to the stone statue on the first turn by getting 2nd and having a UFO swap. I'm so glad to see it here!
@@Changed_the_box-cat Brent wins like half of the Mario Party games that the Party Crashers play. I feel like he could absolutely do this with his skill and luck.
I think that using more UFOs (e.g. purposefully landing on an UFO space, but the player you swapped with lands on ANOTHER UFO space, and warps you back up and gives you free moves (or swaps with another player who lands on a third UFO space, repeating the process)
Thats a good theory. I think you can make CPU1 win first minigame and swap with CPU2, which does insane rolls like the tas, and land on the second UFO in turn 2, swaping with the player Tas was in second UFO in the second turn, with 20 tiles away from finish. If a CPU lands on this tile at the second turn, and then swaps with tas, you can beat the game in 2 turns, maybe faster You can manipulate cpu rolls by waiting in your turn, but maybe thats a little too much
The fact that this game lasted 6 minutes is threatening
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I have some questions: 1: Wouldn't it be faster for Pablo, on the first round, to get a four & a five on the first roll followed by a six on the vine (assuming that being launched from the vine is faster than walking), or a five & a six on the first roll followed by a 4 on the vine (assuming that being launched from the vine is slower than walking)? Getting a double should technically be a waste of time when avoidable, as you have to roll an extra die. 2: Wouldn't it be faster for you, on the second round, to roll three sixes instead of three fives? By rolling three sixes, you'd end the round being 11 tiles away from the end. Thus, by winning the third minigame, you would be able to subsequently roll a five and a six (totaling eleven), not wasting time via rolling an extra die. 3: Assuming RNG manipulation is possible, can you manipulate the selection of the minigames (more easily) or the other players' rolls or both? For the former, the shortest minigames could be picked. For the latter, the other players could get the lowest rolls that go trough the least "effect tiles" (like the tornado) or "events" (like the vine) possible, wasting less time on their other turns. The first two questions may or may not be possible or faster because of the RNG manipulation. Either way, this doesn't remove any merit from your great TAS.
This is great! But I think there could be some timesaves. 1. You could click faster.There's a time gap between when you can roll the dice and when you actually rolled it. Idk if it's intentional, but I hope there will be a mod to control the dices' movement. 2. You can try to manipulate the 3rd and the 4th person's dices to make them not even have the chance to use the rope, which actually takes up time.
Could the NPCs not passing the vine obstacle in Round 2 have saved any time or would waiting for the RNG actually have made enough of a difference for the outcome to be worse than what it is in the video?
In a perfect run, it would save time if the NPCs stayed behind the vine. However, during this run it was faster to let them go so I could get a quick minigame and a good roll. In the future, I hope to cut down this time.
@@c4t_j it could also help cut time, in a perfect run idk the rng, on the second to last roll, getting two less would put you on a 6 boost, allowing for no need for doubles on the last roll, idk if that is slightly faster or not than the doubles clap and roll time but thought id give my two cents
The first time I TASed board game island was March of last year and again in December but this time using 3 Players. Proud of someone to find a improvement for me, though. 👍
Sub 6 minutes would be possible with good npc roll rng where they don't get to swing the first vine, but since the TAS also waited to throw the dice at the last throw, I think it has something to do with RNG manipulation, which probably makes it impossible
You should try optimizing it to see just how fast a game could possibly go, probably by hitting dice right as they appear, more UFO swaps to get more progress on one turn, etc.
Two questions! Towards the end, you were only getting 5s and needing to wait longer before rolling. Is that because wii party rigs the odds to make games more close? And next can you make a TAS where one player is insanely good but gets comically bad luck every roll
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Average poofesure cpu opponent
and it’s on advanced level difficulty
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Beginner* @@MozzarellaMayhem
LUCKY
@@GhostFlame28actually it’s on master. Steph, Eddy and Pablo are Masters.
Strategically getting second place to steal an entire first place roll with the saucer and then get a perfect second place roll is absolutely diabolical
This IS a TAS run, so the "perfect" second place roll was calculated/fixed (idrk how tas exactly work)
@@wawacat6568 TAS wouldn't manipulate the random rolls, it would do things like frame perfect inputs to throw them. I noticed a few times where the roll was delayed, so there may be ways to control the outcome if you throw at the perfect time, hence the tool assistance.
Looks like you don't know anything about TAS. TAS is the short form of Tool Assisted Speedrun. You can not only complete frame-perect actions, luck manipulations is also included @@shizumeru_
@@wawacat6568By running the equivalent of multiple savestates, the bot picks the one with the best outcome. In this case, he adjusted to the swap frames to get a headstart and kept save scumming until the end. If you play from an emulator, it becomes much clearer
@@shiennohajime1495 Exactly, you don't need direct RNG manipulation, just save states.
I thought the mii was beef boss
You and me both my friend
It's the knockoff vegan version, Soy Boss
@@NPC1921lol
It's his uncle who works at Nintendo.
White bread boss
Board Game Island: It roughly takes 45 Minutes
C4TJ's TAS: Hold my frames
the fact this can happen in an everyday game is crazy
I remember suggesting under an old speedrun WR that you could get to the stone statue on the first turn by getting 2nd and having a UFO swap. I'm so glad to see it here!
Pablo had his taste of victory then got completely abolished
I think you mean demolished
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@@portal7314abolished is also a word
but it doesn't mean what you think it does
I can hear Pablo's internal screaming after getting UFOed
Poor Pablo also got last lol
The fact the mii did 62 pull ups in 2 seconds is arm shatteringly crazy.
I've done 69 on that minigame before lol.
@@redhotdanger2394 christ
I did 90 on that minigame
@@redhotdanger2394 pull ups? or....
@@redhotdanger2394 in 2 sceonds?
Poofesure is screaming rn
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@@AshthePiggyPro is stupid
@@AshthePiggyPro🤓👆
600th like
Imagine making it more than halfway through the board on the first turn in a casual playthrough
Bro was like 17 away from the goal meanwhile steph has just started their first turn 💀💀
This TAS guy is amazing at every game
i know right??
i need an autograph from TAS he is very cool
He has a pretty good gaming chair
Wait a second.
*That's not Beef Boss!*
No of course not it’s _
It's his estranged uncle that we don't talk to at the family get together
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That was actually pretty cool!
Now play the next one as ÷
ed sheeran%
Coming soon!
@@c4t_jsweet!
Im crying the cpus didn’t even make it past the first obstacle😭
The way bro gets absolutely doinked on the first turn I would be livid if I was Pablo lmao
I’d watch a step by step breakdown of the decisions behind some of the TAS movements. It’s fascinating
Same here. Questioning some of the dice roll tricks, like are you guaranteed a certain roll if you wait for a certain frame?
Pablo didn't deserved to suffer, bring some justice for him!
Also incredible speedrun
So used to watching poofesure play this that I instinctively lowered my volume the heck down lol
Bro the miis trying hard af and beef boss twitches for a few seconds that had me dying 😂
poor pablo didnt stand a chance
Gotta love how there was a ÷ character in the crowd as well
Crazy the potential of this luck. The Chin Up Champ getting 2nd strat was genius. Also 1K likes. Nice job
That one friend when you give them the Wii remote.
glad to see this game get TAS'd again
You’ve seen beef boss, this is beef CEO
Would love a commentary explaining everything during the run
You will need Triple the luck of TCnick3 to pull this off
Even TCNick3 couldn't beat Board Game Island in 3 turns with his luck, that's how you know it takes a ton of "skill" to do this without any TAS tools
Or half the "luck" of Dream.
Or all the skill of Brent (King of Skill)
@@Changed_the_box-cat Brent wins like half of the Mario Party games that the Party Crashers play. I feel like he could absolutely do this with his skill and luck.
@@PaperYosh975 I feel like Brent is more Skillful than Lucky
Crazy TAS strats !
I would love to see Poofesure react to this!
Insane use of the tool assist for some of those dice rolls
Bro that’s not beef boss that’s lettuce assistant
I can feel him shake out of anger
Now that’s a MASSIVE WORLD RECORD!
I think that using more UFOs (e.g. purposefully landing on an UFO space, but the player you swapped with lands on ANOTHER UFO space, and warps you back up and gives you free moves (or swaps with another player who lands on a third UFO space, repeating the process)
Thats a good theory. I think you can make CPU1 win first minigame and swap with CPU2, which does insane rolls like the tas, and land on the second UFO in turn 2, swaping with the player
Tas was in second UFO in the second turn, with 20 tiles away from finish. If a CPU lands on this tile at the second turn, and then swaps with tas, you can beat the game in 2 turns, maybe faster
You can manipulate cpu rolls by waiting in your turn, but maybe thats a little too much
Unnecessary. If you can already get to the statue in 1 turn, why have more? The UFO animation takes time.
At 5:30 I love that there are also a divide (÷) and a Multiply (•)
The fact that this game lasted 6 minutes is threatening
I have some questions:
1: Wouldn't it be faster for Pablo, on the first round, to get a four & a five on the first roll followed by a six on the vine (assuming that being launched from the vine is faster than walking), or a five & a six on the first roll followed by a 4 on the vine (assuming that being launched from the vine is slower than walking)? Getting a double should technically be a waste of time when avoidable, as you have to roll an extra die.
2: Wouldn't it be faster for you, on the second round, to roll three sixes instead of three fives? By rolling three sixes, you'd end the round being 11 tiles away from the end. Thus, by winning the third minigame, you would be able to subsequently roll a five and a six (totaling eleven), not wasting time via rolling an extra die.
3: Assuming RNG manipulation is possible, can you manipulate the selection of the minigames (more easily) or the other players' rolls or both? For the former, the shortest minigames could be picked. For the latter, the other players could get the lowest rolls that go trough the least "effect tiles" (like the tornado) or "events" (like the vine) possible, wasting less time on their other turns.
The first two questions may or may not be possible or faster because of the RNG manipulation. Either way, this doesn't remove any merit from your great TAS.
It's the kind of run ProfessorCC19 could get
i calculated the odds of getting a first turn blue statue the other day, comes at around one in ~13600 iirc, and thats still half the game remaining
The fact there definitely have been that many games played means it has to have happened at least once
0:32 dude thats not the full range of motion. He's losing GAINZ
You got triple……TWICE⁉️
I guess he DASHed to the end!
this how master difficulty opponents feel like
The one that got this run casually 💀
You could have saved more time if the ai is unlucky here 4:32
Because he wont get the vine?
@@jvcs5738that’s a girl
this is amazing. Im very curious, would you consider making a video of how this game mechanics work and how you exploit them?
Player 1 looks suspiciously like Beef Boss.... :D
This is great! But I think there could be some timesaves.
1. You could click faster.There's a time gap between when you can roll the dice and when you actually rolled it. Idk if it's intentional, but I hope there will be a mod to control the dices' movement.
2. You can try to manipulate the 3rd and the 4th person's dices to make them not even have the chance to use the rope, which actually takes up time.
Bro moved 44 spots in one turn lmao
this is crazy
Ok I get how you can TAS the minigames, but how do you control the dice rolls? Is that not just RNG?
Read the description
- is funny because he has no face😂
Ah yes --- my favourite mii better than matt.
Finally a tas for wii party
Could the NPCs not passing the vine obstacle in Round 2 have saved any time or would waiting for the RNG actually have made enough of a difference for the outcome to be worse than what it is in the video?
In a perfect run, it would save time if the NPCs stayed behind the vine. However, during this run it was faster to let them go so I could get a quick minigame and a good roll. In the future, I hope to cut down this time.
@@c4t_j it could also help cut time, in a perfect run idk the rng, on the second to last roll, getting two less would put you on a 6 boost, allowing for no need for doubles on the last roll, idk if that is slightly faster or not than the doubles clap and roll time but thought id give my two cents
This is amazing.
Looks like the dice are time based and not random. Good to know. For no reason, ill probably never play this 😂
They're random, but the RNG values are only rerolled every ~50 frames. Which would be a little less than a second.
wii party is the best
Pablo was robbed
Joshplays moment
I think you did a better job then me. Though, I did try this again using 3 Players and yet it was also not optimized.
The first time I TASed board game island was March of last year and again in December but this time using 3 Players. Proud of someone to find a improvement for me, though. 👍
watching this in 2x speed to improve your time 👍
This amazes me! Did this take more than one try? Especially since the yellow cpu mii landed on the swap spaces tile?
Nice speed run!
Video Idea: TAS - Board Game Island in 6 minutes - Wii Party С МАТОМ
Most Lucky Player~!
That first turn was foul.
5:47 Maybe, he should stop the timer when he rolled a 6 and watch him break the Goal entrance.
-'s face is enabled
Sub 6 minutes would be possible with good npc roll rng where they don't get to swing the first vine, but since the TAS also waited to throw the dice at the last throw, I think it has something to do with RNG manipulation, which probably makes it impossible
He's so talented
62 chin ups in 3 seconds Holy fuck
So, the old record of 9 minutes and 36 seconds is broken.
i wonder how close you can get to the finish in 2 turns given perfect luck (any number from 1/3 to 6/10/12/18)
Recommended time said 45 mins, smh
Why does he waste time not rolling the dice?
I assumed some form of RNG manipulation but idk I never make TAS
EDIT: nvm read the description
i could try to figure out how the rng works, i'm really interested in that sorta thing :P
Wouldn't it be faster if the cpu roll low numbers or as low as they can?
Wouldn’t the CPUs taking all the UFO spaces to get P1 to the top be a viable TAS strategy?
I really wanna know how this waiting mechanic works
I wonder if you’ll do the same with Highway Rollers…
How does it control the dice rolls ?? 🤨🤨
Read the description
You should try optimizing it to see just how fast a game could possibly go, probably by hitting dice right as they appear, more UFO swaps to get more progress on one turn, etc.
He waits with hitting the dice to manipulate rng to get the rolls he needs
My mind just thought white beef boss when I saw the mii
Proof that rng in thus game is busted
I thought the mii was baymax
Two questions!
Towards the end, you were only getting 5s and needing to wait longer before rolling. Is that because wii party rigs the odds to make games more close?
And next can you make a TAS where one player is insanely good but gets comically bad luck every roll
5:27 why did you wait 10 seconds to roll it
Poofesure punching the air rn
This is over perfect, that not real
It's not TAS means something automated something. It's a robot designed to be perfect
Me when the TAS is perfect
@@jellybelly9376It's not a robot, it's a person playing a game with tools.
It's tool assisted so they manipulate the RNG to get perfect rolls and fast minigames every time
I have many questions
You should do Balance Boat TAS
PLEASE MORE!!
Bro your a quick person 😀 I was shocked
what are the odds of this happening in a normal run?
so does that mean that dice rolls aren‘t actually random but you can choose and you just need to know how?
Why does it wait so long to throw the dice? Seems like a waste of time for me
Read the description
The "-" face ☠☠
1:35 isnt it faster to roll a 5 and a 6?
Maybe the RNG wasn't good and you would have to wait a lot for a 5 and 6, but maybe this is the way
It’s because the silver dice can only roll from numbers 1 to 3 so it was impossible for him or her to get a 5 and a 6 at that moment.
@@ronaidensland5715 omg im stupid
What difficulty were the cpu?