WORST March in 8 YEARS, It's Better to Live in a WAR ZONE for Some, 2023 Canadian Housing Market

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  • Опубликовано: 26 окт 2024

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  • @susannicky
    @susannicky Год назад +66

    Real estate investors losing money is music to my ears. They are a major reason why the real estate market is the way that it is now.

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  • @dskordo
    @dskordo Год назад +21

    Thanks Jon. I've been watching your videos for a bit over a year now, and you've been bang on with your analysis EVERY time. Objective data and no hype. A breath of fresh air.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      Thanks for the support and for watching.

  • @AthenaCyclopedia
    @AthenaCyclopedia Год назад +38

    Here I am 26 years later thinking to find another place in the world to call it forever home... The uncertainty , financial crisis, banking manipulation and the fear of losing my life investment make feel no longer loving it here in Ontario... Not to mention the greed and selfishness of people as well as disinformation of some youtubers! Thank you again for being real :)

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +20

      Thanks for sharing you thoughts. I've thought about it too but it seems my home country of Ireland is just as bad with home prices, affordability, and government problems so going to stay here and fight. Thanks for watching and supporting

    • @AbdulRehman-fn4nk
      @AbdulRehman-fn4nk Год назад +4

      Unfortunately the current government has made so much propaganda over the last 4-5 years that people have lost their sense of economic responsibility and actions have consequences. We have become so accustomed to left liberal thinking that fiscal responsibility is translated into cuts of social programs. Parties on both sides of isle represent different sets of corporations and liberals are good at is putting lipstick at pigs and winning elections. Doug Fords conservatives have been equally inept at running Ontario. Quality of life has consistently dropped in this country over the last half a decade.

    • @menguardingtheirownwallets6791
      @menguardingtheirownwallets6791 Год назад +2

      Yeah, me too, I want to go somewhere else in the world where a one-bedroom rental does not take 150% (or more) of one's income.

    • @yakkiebush5671
      @yakkiebush5671 Год назад

      @@jonflynn where you born in Ireland or parents.

    • @chadpescod-realtor3308
      @chadpescod-realtor3308 Год назад

      I would like to see civilians who are professional purchasers audit local government spending. On a non paid, volunteer sort of way. Then present the findings with plans to save. I know my schoolboard has a budget of $110 million.

  • @susanstewart1402
    @susanstewart1402 Год назад +32

    It's a cold country, with long early morning commutes, long hours plus few holidays, and high cost of living, so the job and educational opportunities have to be worth it. Increasingly, it is just a grind in most Canadian large cities.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +19

      Yes, true. Modern day slavery in my opinion. Debt or cost of living slavery.

    • @DA-pt1em
      @DA-pt1em Год назад +15

      I think for alot of people in Canada it's just surviving, not actual living. There needs to be change.

    • @elim7228
      @elim7228 Год назад

      ​@@DA-pt1em fish rots from the head, as Eastern Europe proverb goes.
      We all know who's responsible, who's in charge. It's first and foremost the results of corrupt government practices, which were unopposed for the last couple of decades. Especially the last 10 or so years, pretty much brought Canada to this mess.

    • @chadpescod-realtor3308
      @chadpescod-realtor3308 Год назад +1

      I think there will be change. We may not like it though.

    • @huskavarnapunkband
      @huskavarnapunkband Год назад +5

      In america,. A guy who has the same business as me, owns a home, and has money for a boat. I just rent and live cheque to cheque in Canada.... Same business....

  • @MickySupreme
    @MickySupreme Год назад +12

    Your honesty and integrity at presenting the actual data is very refreshing. Reading through the comments you can tell watching your videos for many is like listening to our own hearts and intuition telling us - how ugly things really are across Canada - oppose to mainstream media!

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      Great comment, thanks for watching.

    • @cricketlovervaruns
      @cricketlovervaruns Год назад +2

      Supreme - That's so true. Just reading Jon's comments vs other realtor's tells a story itself.

  • @dhfonz
    @dhfonz Год назад +10

    I kinda get annoyed when I see my local realters smiling on their adds showing extremely overpriced homes and saying the market is getting great. I live in Halifax, and houses here literally doubled in value since 2019 in certain neighbourhoods. Rates are high and unless you have a huge downpayment, your mortgage payments will be very high (considering the avg income for NS). It's getting frustrating seeing these ads. I feel sorry for people that would suffer and maybe lose their homes in the process, but I hope the prices will come down here another 20 or 30% because the way it is today is making so many people lose their hope of home ownership.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      looks like NS will be a good recipient for big price drops once recession hits. Lots to gain lots to lose. Hang in there.

  • @maxshumaher4628
    @maxshumaher4628 Год назад +20

    Well, I am Ukrainian from an area very close to the war zone. And I am still in Ukraine and planning to come to live in Canada. I used to live in the USA in 5 states - North Carolina, South Carolina, Ohio, Texas and Florida. So I have some idea how much we spent on rent and how much we earned $. So watching youtube videos about Toronto and Vancouver ABSOLUTELY blows my mind HOW MUCH MONEY real estate cost or people spend for rent, compare earnings! IT'S JUST NONSENSE!!!
    I understand why that's happening- I used to work with real estate and have a masters degree in business. BUT STILL WHY I see those prices? Unbelievable...I just want to add one suggestion- if you are going to Canada you better have saved a lot of money! Because Canada is not a land of opportunity, unless you are an IT person with very high skills!
    I wish everyone peace and happiness. And Definitely do not discourage you from coming to Canada!
    This message is more to support channel and tell Ukrainians, life is difficult in Canada for new immigrants.

    • @elim7228
      @elim7228 Год назад +4

      It's much worse than that. I would consider the radius of 120 km around Toronto as being completely unaffordable in terms of RE price.

    • @Sir-Robalon
      @Sir-Robalon Год назад +2

      Stay covered Max... hope you land somewhere peaceful although that is dwindling everywhere it seems... Im a senior in Ontario and largely our country is ruined by taxes and idiot prov and fed level leadership.... the land of milk and honey is soon to become a valley of tears and rage...

    • @maxshumaher4628
      @maxshumaher4628 Год назад

      @@Sir-Robalon very possible :(

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the comment and sharing your first hand knowledge of the situation. I hope for a peaceful end to the war in Ukraine soon.

    • @susanstewart1402
      @susanstewart1402 Год назад +2

      Calgary and other cities in the Prairie provinces have large Ukrainian populations and are more affordable. I expect you know this already but, just in case.

  • @mbovb006
    @mbovb006 Год назад +41

    At this point I have no sympathy or care for some realtors in Vancouver. Mine tried to get me into another bidding war. I just gave up on BC. Its garbage property for an absurd price tag. They're knowingly putting all these people at risk for their own benefit. So many people are cutting costs to absurd levels trying to afford mortgages right now. It's just messed up seeing realtors lie and fuck this market up even more. Short term gains and then they'll need new careers.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +18

      unfortunately realtors have been trained and groomed to sell properties and not look out for peoples best interests.

    • @JohnLee-
      @JohnLee- Год назад +6

      ​@@jonflynn You are right, 4 years in bc , deal with 4 realtor , no one look out for my interest. You need to protect your own interest.

    • @m.b5777
      @m.b5777 Год назад +8

      They give you the impression that BC is running out of land. When in fact BC is bigger than Germany France and England combined

    • @Canadian_Eh_I
      @Canadian_Eh_I Год назад +4

      @@m.b5777 Exactly, the whole thing is a manufactured problem. BC is HUGE. There is no sensible reason for the current house prices. It all comes down to poor monetary policy, incompetence and greed.

    • @darrensmith6782
      @darrensmith6782 Год назад +4

      Buying and selling realtors are colluding together. They don’t have your best interests at heart. They have their own interests as a priority. They will no longer bring pricing information of similar sales in the area. They don’t care. Just pay the asking price no matter what it is. Even if the last sale was 100k less. Do your own research people or you will over pay. Get to know the market. With all the information we have available to us now, do realtors really deserve the huge commissions they are getting? Do they bring that much value to the table?

  • @theartofconcrete
    @theartofconcrete Год назад +1

    In Kitchener-Waterloo I've heard of realtors selling homes to people only drop to have their new home drop 100k+ and mortgage payments so high the new homeowners had to get second job. Another situation where they bought a home and could not sell the old and they ended up having to back out of new home because the old wouldn't sell. The seller of the new home sued them because they didn't buy.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      I bet there's lots of that going on right now, heard more than a few stories myself.

  • @nickcheema907
    @nickcheema907 Год назад +10

    Excellent post Jon! We're now at the time of year that many Realtors / sellers are pinning their hopes on. The "strong" spring market will turn into a summer filled with excess listings and sellers will need to reassess their asking prices. If you're looking to purchase, wait till late summer. Don't "buy" into the hype generated by many Realtors. All imo.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      well said, very true.

    • @ehahaproductions680
      @ehahaproductions680 Год назад +1

      yea my realtor told me that the boc is going to cut rates. idk where they're pulling their data from lol

  • @lm3168
    @lm3168 Год назад +7

    Jon, Everything in Kitchener Waterloo region has been selling like crazy and people are still paying way over asking. Townhouses that would have sold for 450k in mid 2020 are selling for 800-840k now... which is insane. I find it hard to believe I will ever afford anything and doubt prices will return to a reasonable price that is affordable... Canada is crazy

    • @chadpescod-realtor3308
      @chadpescod-realtor3308 Год назад +2

      Same in Durham Region. I don't think this is going away. I'm not happy about that as a Realtor and Canadian. Affordability is possibly gone forever.

    • @drewdoctor1984
      @drewdoctor1984 Год назад +2

      Keep calm
      It will go like dominoes soon

    • @das_it_mane
      @das_it_mane Год назад

      80%+ of buyers there are investors. Government needs to step in. Capitalism is out of control. People and corps with deep pockets are fucking the rest of us

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +2

      April is already showing rising inventory and declining prices. Stay strong.

  • @natk137
    @natk137 Год назад +6

    Really appreciate the time and work you put into your channel and videos I’ve been watching for a few months now while I wait on the sidelines in Halifax.
    It’s very refreshing to see an honest & ethical realtor.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      No problem, thanks for watching.

  • @alsmart7737
    @alsmart7737 Год назад +3

    Excellent video Jon. Very prescient insights at 5:45 that show this housing crash is going to rapidly accelerate to the downside over the next 18 months. Looking forward to seeing your play-by-play videos on this over the next couple of years...

  • @DTrent-uy1wl
    @DTrent-uy1wl Год назад +25

    Your honesty is appreciated Jon

  • @kevinn1158
    @kevinn1158 Год назад +8

    Great charts Jon. I would be focusing on that mean line and 42% level. IE that's where it will just dip under as an "overcorrection". I say this because the Fed gov't seems to be living on their own planet ramping up immigration. A crazy move given the tight housing market, medical support, schooling etc.
    Also, I'm watching the UST2Y yield recovering above 4%. Next key level is getting above its 50 day moving average at 4.4%. J Powell scared the markets silly when he said he didn't see rates being cut anytime this yr. LOL. I never expected a cut, not sure what the markets were thinking.

  • @hcbides161
    @hcbides161 Год назад +3

    I like how you use data to back what you state. An opinion without data is just another opinion. You have the Data. Great Job!

  • @salilvishnuKapur
    @salilvishnuKapur Год назад +1

    God bless you. We loved watching couple of your videos with real data backing up your comments. Looking forward to your next video.

  • @terryevp4084
    @terryevp4084 Год назад +5

    Top-notch video and thanks so very much, Jon...!! Very well researched and backed up with reliable data. You are a real treasure...!!!

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      My pleasure! Thanks for watching.

  • @veronicadicerni2479
    @veronicadicerni2479 Год назад +4

    Completely agree with you! Why in the world would anyone from any other country think canada is land of opportunity. My 20 y old daughter just lost her GP because she used walk in doctors instead of waiting months to see her doctor. Doctors are on a silent strike but no one can talk about it. Housing affordability is definitely not a draw to canada for many people escaping any type of crisis country
    I could go on!

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      it's sad. My doctor quit/retired in 2021 in the middle of the pandemic because it was too much paperwork and BS

    • @veronicadicerni2479
      @veronicadicerni2479 Год назад

      @@jonflynn our family doctor also retired at the beginning of pandemic and replacement doctors filled up before we could act. So now we rely on walk in clinics and random pharmacies for advice or Dr google. Living downtown Toronto, not sure how our experience compares to suburbs or rural

    • @veronicadicerni2479
      @veronicadicerni2479 Год назад

      @@ArcticCoder I hate particle board!!

  • @handle32491
    @handle32491 Год назад +2

    Thanks for the video. It's refreshing to see someone in the real estate space who actually understands economics.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @mariamalshaer
    @mariamalshaer Год назад +7

    Thanks for the video John. The economy is very strong but to live here is getting more expensive. Someone should fix this. Nothing make sense anymore when it comes to buy a house. But for sure I am not looking to leave. I still love Canada 🇨🇦

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +12

      same here, it will get fixed once we get rid of those idiots in Ottawa and replace with someone with common sense.

    • @das_it_mane
      @das_it_mane Год назад

      Nobody is gonna fix shit unless we force them. The Conservatives and the Liberals BOTH put us in this mess by their policies going back at least 30 years. NDP is fake left. We have no real left wing to keep these capitalists accountable

  • @ArZ00765
    @ArZ00765 Год назад +3

    In Hamilton it is again like 2020. Lot of properties 10, 15 offers, people are blind bidding like crazy. I don’t know John despite these rate hikes nothing seems to change unless it’s engineered this way.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      it will be short lived, lots of pent up demand still. Already looks like it's losing momentum. Inventory seems to be increasing.

  • @FundiWaStima
    @FundiWaStima Год назад +3

    I recently listed my condo in woodstock at the 2021 market price (about $40,000 down from peak of about $325000). Very little interest so far. Flexible on price but constrained by needing to purchase something else afterwards. I’d happily drop my price further if the prices where we’ll buy next also drop.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      Wow 2019 prices. Everywhere is at different stages it seems.

    • @FundiWaStima
      @FundiWaStima Год назад

      @@jonflynn sorry meant to say 2021 prices

  • @pratik1990rajput
    @pratik1990rajput Год назад +7

    Great presentation of facts as always, Jon. Thank you

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      My pleasure! Thanks for watching.

  • @troy3120
    @troy3120 Год назад +16

    Recently had a seller in Niagara end the deal over 10k. The sellers ultimately terminated a week later after the deal fell through.
    Seems like a lot of realtors still promising huge sales over listing… grab your popcorn lol. Thanks as always, appreciate your insights !

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +2

      Thanks for sharing.

  • @thevintagekitty
    @thevintagekitty Год назад +4

    Very interesting. Thank you my friend for the effort level in research you put into your videos for us.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      no problem, anytime.

  • @emiliyvandermeer9175
    @emiliyvandermeer9175 Год назад +1

    I offered on a house that had been sitting for a month. A dream home for us and the only one under $550k that wasn’t a dump. However, that day, two more offers came in. A cash offer won. There’s no inventory either, so it does feel helpless out there.
    I hope price drops come with more inventory.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      Inventory will increase into the late spring and summer.

  • @jdubdubnobass5101
    @jdubdubnobass5101 Год назад +2

    The data and the man of
    Real estate ,deliver good point👍.all the best

  • @dirtlump
    @dirtlump Год назад +2

    A very LARGE part of the early spring buying resurgence was in fact speculators exercising cognizant knowledge that Chartered Banks/OSFI/BoC/CMHC/Finance are all 'on the hook' to support current valuations = bailouts and a 'can't lose' investment.
    One needn't look any further than the now ~170,000 'triggered' former Variable Rate Mortgage holders presently on Bank 'accommodation' fixed payments NOT even covering interest on their loans.... the 'principle' being tacked onto extending amortizations with most now above 35 years and some out to 45 years.
    Banks/OSFI/BoC/CMHC are in a very precarious juncture for the Canadian Financial System...... Banks are merely "extending and Pretending" in the Mortgage Portfolios and have basically served the "problem" into the BoC/OSFI/CMHC's court as to how to 'save' the Financial System and Real Estate in Canada ? because there is NO WAY much of this now 170,000 Mortgages will be able to renew at current rates = FLOOD of supply coming !

    • @davidkania3720
      @davidkania3720 Год назад

      I love how many people forget about this very important stat. Thanks for sharing in detail. It's a circus 🎪

    • @jimmybaggs5342
      @jimmybaggs5342 Год назад

      Housing bubbles have inflated and popped all around the world. There isn’t a single instance of a government presiding over a housing bubble successfully preventing it from popping because it would have been financially inconvenient if it did. They always correct.
      To all of those middle aged Canadians living in a home they wouldn’t qualify for today… You think you will have a doctor when you are 75? There isn’t any reason for an educated person under the age of 30 to stay in Canada.

  • @ruiamaral7954
    @ruiamaral7954 Год назад +3

    For the employment data I would suspect the same as the US - where the numbers seem high but that is driven by people doing multiple jobs just to make ends meet. I know of a few that are doing just that.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      I'd believe it, lots of part time or low paying jobs.

  • @DmitriiSokolovMD
    @DmitriiSokolovMD Год назад +3

    It is true. It is very hard for immigrants to find a job in Canada unless you are in IT. Even highly skilled people cannot find a job because every employer demanding Canadian experience. But how can you get Canadian experience if you cannot get job in Canada.

    • @krisskross8985
      @krisskross8985 Год назад

      It' hard for Canadians to get a job too without experience! This has always been the case. I was downsized when I turned 50 was a professional and then nobody wants you to work for them because of your age and no experience.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      Thanks for commenting.

  • @lakshayarora4273
    @lakshayarora4273 Год назад +3

    Thank you John! Love the insight you provide..
    Do you have any idea how all this may impact the used vehicle industry?? Cuz that for some reason seems super intense with prices just going up for vehicles and availability going down. Would love to hear your thoughts!

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +3

      Good question, I own a third of a used car dealership with my brother and his girlfriend so have seen the sharp rise in used car prices there also. I don't analyze the market like I do in real estate but there's many similarities. Low interest rates and expanded money supply meant more money chasing less cars. Supply chain issues are also a major problem in that industry. You can't easily get many new cars such as Toyota hybrids etc which in turn drives up the used car market. This will all change when the recession comes and many people can't afford their payments anymore. I've already seen a sharp rise in repos but until unemployment starts to rise and economy slows it will most likely remain a problem.

  • @elim7228
    @elim7228 Год назад +2

    Jon, you're awesome, and you are backing everything with solid data. Emotional has no place in economics, where the future of our next generations are at stake.
    We are seeing troubles ahead like never before.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +2

      There will be pain for many before blue skies arrive.

  • @y_y_ryan
    @y_y_ryan Год назад +1

    days ago, released foreign buyer bans to allow those with working visa can buy...and furthermore just now...talking about release amortisation so...previously expecting those force-selling supply even further drifted down...
    will this affect price expectation coming forward? or just still anyways no matter what the fact-changed, just still all the way expecting a drop like hell?

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      Check out this weeks video, I share my thoughts on both topics

  • @willalot
    @willalot Год назад +5

    Do you expect a similar decline in prices in BC? I am currently living in the Okanagan and I believe its come down a bit but not that much. Planning on leaving soon because of it. Love your content

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      Yes, they had some pretty big increases if my memory is correct so they will have similar to the downside.

    • @izzy2116
      @izzy2116 Год назад +1

      @@jonflynn Is there anyone you recommend on youtube that talks about B.C.'s Real estate? The one's I've seen are just pumpers so I can't get honest info on it.

  • @igor-Light111
    @igor-Light111 Год назад +2

    Thank you Jon, for your honest and professional opinion on the market conditions
    I truly believe you should be on TV,so more people can see you and make right decisions!

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the encouraging words of support.

  • @markhunt5019
    @markhunt5019 Год назад +4

    Beyond brilliant! One of the few RUclipsrs putting the most probable reality on the table with lots of hard data. Two points/questions: 1) If you were still in the process of fleeing Ukraine, would Canada or the USA make a better choice? Of course, my whole life, Canada was the automatic and obvious answer, but now…, if I wanted a home with my Ukrainian money and I wanted a job…, I probably would bet on the States. No? Other question 2) I’m relatively familiar with the Fibonacci Sequence in a variety of settings in things related to biology, but not with regard to Economics. I will research it, for sure. But, a brief explanation from Jon might be helpful, although he’s probably done it in an earlier video that I’m unaware of. My suspicion is that growth should occur according to the Fibonacci Sequence, and when you are over it, or under it, you should expect a reversion to it. Similar, to a reversion to a Mean, but I could be entirely wrong about that. I’m thinking off the cuff, instead of Googling.

    • @elim7228
      @elim7228 Год назад +1

      USA

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +2

      Florida or somewhere more affordable.

  • @YJKart
    @YJKart Год назад +1

    Thank you Mr. Flynn! I been keeping my eye on your graph over the months, crazy how close it keeps looking 👀.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @markettdeetales
    @markettdeetales Год назад +1

    March 17 saw and article from Globe and Mail regarding Canadian Real Estate. Sub heading said "buyers and sellers adjusting to real estate's new normal". Signs are there that we are in that phase of the bubble bursting.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      Thanks for sharing.

  • @河-s8l
    @河-s8l Год назад +1

    Thank you for the information. Here's a question, if we want to sell our property, when will be the good time?

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      Seasonally the best times are spring and fall, the last few years have actually been late winter/early spring and fall. Looking at the big picture, now is the best time.

    • @河-s8l
      @河-s8l Год назад

      Thank you for your response. Sorry I made you confused. What I wanted to know was when or which year will be the good time for us as one of the sellers.

  • @patricksuwala4090
    @patricksuwala4090 Год назад +1

    If you look at the trend of the graph at 4:00, just bringing us back to average would be approximately $500k. The exponential growth phase started around Q1 2016. Crazy to think about.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      It will all catch up.

  • @jenisatwork6757
    @jenisatwork6757 Год назад +1

    Your videos and statistics are excellent. Love your honesty. I agree with everything you’ve said.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      I appreciate that! Thanks for watching

  • @Sir-Robalon
    @Sir-Robalon Год назад

    outstanding as usual Jon... three weeks ago pickering sold for $130 large over list 30 year old two storey brick of lower quality build in its time...just over $1m.. of course the realtor underlisted... its a dogs breakfast....

  • @coffeesleeves
    @coffeesleeves Год назад +1

    Great analysis. Appreciate the regular updates. Would love to hear your thoughts and analysis on the Kitchener/Waterloo region; specifically Detached homes. Super low supply, interesting demand in Waterloo. Any details would be appreciated. Thanks Jon!

    • @chadpescod-realtor3308
      @chadpescod-realtor3308 Год назад +1

      I can save you some time. Bidding wars and low inventory.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      Yep, what Chad said but first few days of April aren't looking so good for prices though.

  • @kishorechamarti
    @kishorechamarti Год назад +3

    Thank you John. Great content, much appreciated

  • @triplekmafia4932
    @triplekmafia4932 Год назад +2

    I left Canada forever a year ago. Never looked back.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      I hear a lot of this lately.

  • @SimcoeAce
    @SimcoeAce Год назад +1

    I'm not sure I understand the line that traces capitulation & return to the mean. Surely no one expects average prices to drop below $300,000? I think the "mean" should rise more steeply and end up somewhere around the $600,000 level. In the end, housing is not the same as the stock market: land/houses have inherent value - people have to live somewhere.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      unfortunately it has become like the stock market. The only reason it hasn't totally crashed and burned is because yes people need to live someone and because they've been squeezed out of the market by investors and speculators over the past 5 to 10 years they are keeping the market afloat for now.

  • @zhiliangxing7538
    @zhiliangxing7538 Год назад +7

    honestly, I would be really surprised to see that Canada and other developed country who has serious housing bubble getting better anytime soon. Politicians all know what is going on, and they are all aware of how much resources are mistakenly allocated to real estate, but at this point, all they can do is to kick the can further down the road. The housing bubble will pop eventually, but whether it will be this time or not, only god knows. Thanks for being so honest Jon, it is very rare for a realtor to throw out facts like this, all other realtors I know are still saying that this is the last good opportunity to buy before the rate cut(well they can be right, but if they are wrong, they will experience the same destiny or worse as those realtors in the 1990s after the Toronto housing crash)

  • @katierose1893
    @katierose1893 Год назад +1

    You have earned my respect with this video. Subscribed.

  • @rjkrjk8344
    @rjkrjk8344 Год назад +1

    There's plenty of buyers, but hardly anyone's qualifying for mortgages. Don't forget they're still adding the stress test of 2% extra. So people are trying to qualify for 7% rates. A million dollar home at 7%, forget it.

  • @stevenvanderheide6472
    @stevenvanderheide6472 Год назад

    I am on Vancouver Island and there is absolutely no deals to be had. Inventory is still really low and the asking* prices are still at peak levels.

  • @andreaspilar8335
    @andreaspilar8335 Год назад +1

    Thanks for your work Jon! Any idea how the federal 2023 budget will affect the real estate market moving forward?

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      looks like 40B in handouts that might fuel inflation a bit but other than that nothing has changed.

    • @andreaspilar8335
      @andreaspilar8335 Год назад

      @@jonflynn
      I hear the new “budget” proposes new bailouts for mortgage borrowers/present home owners. How would this affect the market? It seems like we can continue to extend and pretend? Awesome work btw!

  • @mogulrider
    @mogulrider Год назад +1

    Excellent work Jon. BTW If you compare any US stock market chart to your Housing chart you will notice something interesting.

  • @junk2love
    @junk2love Год назад +1

    What about modifications regarding the ban on foreigners to buy real estate in Canada. ?.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      I don't think it will make any difference since that ban was too little too late to begin with.

    • @junk2love
      @junk2love Год назад

      @@jonflynn what are the modifications ?

  • @samueljun
    @samueljun Год назад +1

    It's been really great follow your content. DO you have any insights on the Ottawa region? I find it way harder to find this quality content around this area.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      I gave a quick analysis in the last month or so but I don't have access to that board so data is limited. They're down around 15% from the peak

  • @randomstuffman01
    @randomstuffman01 Год назад

    Yikes. The truth hurts.
    Thanks for another good talk.

  • @lovemuch5129
    @lovemuch5129 Год назад +2

    You know there is trouble in housing market when Minto Homo in Ontario are reducing price to sign up fast and save 100 000$. Stay safe everyone, they can take their houses. I am starting to look oversea, Canada is out of reach I don't want to be debt slave till I drop 80 years old.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      better off to by an RV in Canada.

  • @y_y_ryan
    @y_y_ryan Год назад +1

    in Feb....predicted confidently March would be recording a drop..... then turns out not the fact so happened.... then keep confidence to make predictions....
    🎉🎉🎉

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      I don't fully understand your comment but I don't remember saying March would drop, I predicted into the spring it would drop like the last few years.

  • @fjskj6529
    @fjskj6529 Год назад +3

    I just lost on my 2nd bid for a home yesterday. The market's gone bonkers. The house was listed the the right price considering it needed at least 100k in renos. We came in above asking and the selling agent said "the winning bid was way higher"
    Edit: it went for 250k over, NO CONDITIONS, selling agent just posted
    We have yet to find out but my assumption is it's over 100k. I said Jesus Christ either we went to the wrong house or I need to wake up
    If this were Nov/Dec that wouldve gone just at listing or just under. I think this is major FOMO now, it's insane. I really hope they like it more than I did because it immediately needed new windows to begin with
    Im not new to this. I remained patient at the peak of 2017 and bought my home under market value so this is ok, but boy, are some just itching to sign on the dotted line? There were 10+ registrants last night and I was the 9th offer
    Keep up the good work Jon 👌

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      crazy, which city/area is this? Make sure you follow up to see what it sold for.

    • @susanstewart1402
      @susanstewart1402 Год назад +2

      @@jonflynn Good advice .. and check that it actually closed. So many bulls*t artists these days.

    • @fjskj6529
      @fjskj6529 Год назад

      @@jonflynn I edited my post - Oakville. 250k over listing and listing was more or less the market value, give or take 50k in its current condition
      Theres hardly any inventory tbh. My assumption is they stayed on the sidelines and settled. Rewind this back just 3mos ago they wouldve gotten a nicer home without needing renos

    • @MM-qv5lf
      @MM-qv5lf Год назад +1

      Isn't "blind bidding" done and over with now with new rules? Or am I clueless? I thought we were supposed to see what all offers are now?

    • @saugatools402
      @saugatools402 Год назад

      Demand is strong near the GTA, everywhere it might drop. Don't listen to those videos that say "Oh wait a year and the house will be 25% cheaper" or "Toronto Housing Crash Incoming". These titles just get views because there are more people on the sidelines hoping for a price drop lol. Been like that for the last 30 years and still no crash.

  • @dylancunningham6145
    @dylancunningham6145 Год назад +2

    I had a Ukrainian coworker return this week, said he doesn't make enough money to afford to live here. Employed full time with certification that the company is desperate short of.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      crazy, thanks for sharing.

  • @timshammm
    @timshammm Год назад +2

    Jon must be a trader... haha! First head and shoulder pattern, now Fib levels. Respect!

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      lol, nope. I'm not oblivious to trading but it's actually the reverse, real estate has become a traded asset class or commodity so trading patterns and charts are now applicable to our data. Something like that.

    • @susanstewart1402
      @susanstewart1402 Год назад +2

      Real estate market is very emotional so it makes sense to look at technicals which are supposed to encapsulate the market sentiment.

    • @timshammm
      @timshammm Год назад

      @@jonflynn very reasonable and logical, i agree!

    • @timshammm
      @timshammm Год назад

      @@susanstewart1402 👍🏻👍🏻

  • @robertobrien3416
    @robertobrien3416 Год назад +1

    Sorry I must have missed it, the first retracement chart you show is that for Ontario prices ?

  • @senyap3924
    @senyap3924 Год назад +1

    You should see what's going on in Richmond Hill and York region right now people are snatching houses and ready to pay ridiculous amounts of money lines of people just to see the homes.

    • @chadpescod-realtor3308
      @chadpescod-realtor3308 Год назад

      Same here in Durham

    • @alessandroc47
      @alessandroc47 Год назад

      Richmond Hill and Markham are two of the most corrupt RE markets within the GTA. The level of money laundering that passes through them is astounding.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      They live life in a subconscious manner, oblivious to what's happening and about to happen.

  • @hlhl5962
    @hlhl5962 Год назад +1

    Thanks Joe, for the informative and up-to-date analysis.

  • @y_y_ryan
    @y_y_ryan Год назад +1

    in Feb....predicted March would be a negative month...... and then at the end of March when the fact is being not really as expected....asking for a tune-out....
    loop

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      from my memory I predicted it wouldn't last and March wouldn't be as big increases as Feb or would be short lived. It's already ended, first few days of April showing reduced prices again. Wanna make a bet on which way the market will go?

    • @y_y_ryan
      @y_y_ryan Год назад +1

      @@jonflynn I'm glad and respect you make a public prediction here. so let say by the end of 2023 vs the start of 2023, you think it's a drop right?

    • @y_y_ryan
      @y_y_ryan Год назад

      @@jonflynn actually from my memory you were saying similar thing as what saying now........................kind of like March already seeing a reduced price already... maybe you should listen back of what you said ... frankly.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      so what are you getting at, am I a total fake or what? I can't help if people have lost their minds and all common sense. My predictions are far more accurate most of the time than the governments vaccine claims which they have never been called out on by the big media outlets.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      either my first or second video I ever made I said I wasn't going to make predictions on this channel, that didn't last long.

  • @juliel7359
    @juliel7359 Год назад +1

    What about the province of Quebec, please?

  • @donalddube3359
    @donalddube3359 Год назад +2

    There are a ton of sales positions in any given city. Maybe the ukrainian refugee doesn't speak english? That can be a huge problem for an immigrant. I know how difficult it can be. I came here as french speaker in Ontario and it took me 5 years to learn english and being able to find a job in my field.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      good point, did you come from Quebec of France? I want to learn French for obvious reasons, sometimes I listen to the politicians interviews in French to see how much I can understand.

    • @donalddube3359
      @donalddube3359 Год назад

      @@jonflynn Never been in France or Québec. I came from a small french speaking country in Africa. Now fully bilingual but it was hard. You also can make it. French is a bit harder to learn but you can do it if you'r motivated.

  • @Canadian_Eh_I
    @Canadian_Eh_I Год назад +1

    It just doesnt make sense to buy unless you absolutely need a certain type of property. If prices decline 2-5% for the next 5 years, its cheaper to rent!

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +3

      in my area it's cheaper to rent even if prices stay the same. Purchasing an average home will cost $3500/month, renting that same house is $2500 with no down payment and no maintenance to worry about.

  • @jimmybaggs5342
    @jimmybaggs5342 Год назад +4

    Our drunken immigration policy is putting Canadians in an even worse position.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +4

      I agree, just another temporary attempt to artificially prop up the economy.

    • @alessandroc47
      @alessandroc47 Год назад +2

      It works both ways. Bringing in more people into a dead economy means more unemployment. High immigration really only works well when the economy is on absolute fire.

  • @aiqueenla2786
    @aiqueenla2786 Год назад +1

    Thanks John for the info!

  • @berhanerussom6904
    @berhanerussom6904 Год назад +1

    Appreciate your honest.I may also move to another country,

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      Thanks for the feedback

  • @chrisspurrell1534
    @chrisspurrell1534 Год назад +1

    Thx for all you do Jon, look forward to the weekly videos. I'm sitting here in Crystal Beach, within view of the beach looking at all the 3 season cottages on the market here for $500 000 that need work. These have been on the market for many months with no movement. Down the road in Fort Erie proper, one can buy a brand spanking new townhouse for $530 000, no work required..... It's gonna take time here in the beach to get back to closer to normal....

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      thanks for the info, I did an evaluation not too long ago in crystal beach and couldn't find any comparable sales, because there were none. Lots of listings like you said. The carrying costs will slowly eat away at owners saving and they will have no choice but to cut prices to sell.

    • @misssunshine8469
      @misssunshine8469 Год назад

      Crystal Beach is a hidden gem, and I don’t think the price is ever going to go down really but rather up

  • @MotherRat-ii6ji
    @MotherRat-ii6ji Год назад +1

    Doesn't this all sort of depend on where the interest rates go? If they start dropping sooner than later and we have 500k new people coming in each year I feel like things will stabilize and eventually go up again.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      If they drop them it's because we're in recession so will be interesting.

  • @CoconutPatel
    @CoconutPatel Год назад

    Awesome observations & analysis.... again! So glad I found your channel.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      Thanks for the comment.

  • @Apollobay1
    @Apollobay1 Год назад +1

    Hi Jon, Thank you very much👍

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      no problem, thanks for watching

  • @sugadre123
    @sugadre123 Год назад +3

    I really respect you because it seems so rare to find an honest realtor in what has become such a dishonest profession of mostly snake oil salesmen. As I say all the time understand realtors are people and they have to earn a living as well but the level of greed is shocking. And they are convincing people to make the biggest financial decision of their life in bad faith without providing them with the full picture. Its just buy buy buy at all cost. Leaving many people in financial difficulties. I know they must hate you for exposing the truth. Dont let them get to you.
    Btw what happened in 2015 that started the house craze we have today? In your chart and many others I have seen I realize that the prices and frenzy started becoming irrational around that time.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      Thanks for the comment. Surprisingly I don't get much if any pushback from other realtors. I don't think they have a good counter argument so they don't pursue it. In 2015 speculative investing really picked up due to low interest rates and relatively affordable housing, this continued to gain momentum due to the wealth affect further fuelled by low interest rates and here we are today.

  • @xaverpest
    @xaverpest Год назад +1

    just want to ask how much more drop are we anticipating?i live in calgary and still cant afford it

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      Since Calgary is a major city and hasn't had the run up of places like GVA or GTA I would say it will be somewhat insulated from the rest but I'l still give it 20-25% from the peak for the low point. It's currently around 10% (maybe less, going by memory) so not even half way there.

  • @JohnS-or8hm
    @JohnS-or8hm Год назад +2

    The overlay is indeed scary

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      just like every other speculative financial bubble now.

    • @susanstewart1402
      @susanstewart1402 Год назад

      @@jonflynn The everything bubble.

  • @go514
    @go514 Год назад +3

    John, what will happen if they cut the rate in next 6 months ? And the mass immigration increase

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      if they cut the rate in 6 months it means we're in trouble, unemployment is increasing and things are failing, it will be too late just like is was too late when they started hiking. Real estate prices will continue to drop and recession will be in full swing. Dropping rates will be a good signal for buyers to start getting ready, but still will need to wait another 6-12 months before jumping in IMO

    • @shahilanathan8067
      @shahilanathan8067 Год назад +1

      Great question!
      Do you think there is any chance the rates may stay as is or go up even?

  • @andrewb5412
    @andrewb5412 Год назад +2

    How you feeling about commercial real estate ? Looking like it's going down and never coming back

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      Commercial has more triggers than residential so will most likely be a sharp drop.

  • @jackalj8571
    @jackalj8571 Год назад +4

    To those who don't believe the gravity of the situation... Do you think the Romans knew their Empire was years away from absolute collapse? What about it's nay sayers?

  • @AmolGharat
    @AmolGharat Год назад +13

    Jon, be careful your real estate license might be revoked for sharing these charts 😂

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +17

      I'm waiting for the day, sooner or later someone will try to shut me up. I have a surprise waiting for them.

    • @aiqueenla2786
      @aiqueenla2786 Год назад

      😄

  • @PhilippeGendron
    @PhilippeGendron Год назад +1

    Nice head and shoulder formation.

  • @dinoa9608
    @dinoa9608 Год назад +1

    We must still be in a bull trap out here in Burnaby suburb of Vancouver. From what I'm seeing shortage of supply. Lots of people attending open houses. Some homes selling over asking. Maybe a 5% decrease in price for tear down building lots. 33 foot lots going for $1.3 - 1.5M. 50 and 60 foot lots still $1.5 to $1.9M. New spec builds $1.8 M for half duplex. SFD spec homes $3-4M. I don't how people have this money, but its obviously out there. Still lots of foreign money due to legislation being full of loopholes.

    • @izzy2116
      @izzy2116 Год назад +1

      No it's not foreign money. It's extremely low inventory and pent up demand, some are still being fed FOMO. Once the job losses start happening and inventory rising you'l see a massive drop in sales and prices. Takes time, we're in the bull trap, return to normal phase, plus they've been kicking the can down the road with extended amortizations, etc.... I also live in B.C

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      There will be a lot of tears soon

  • @ericmaher4756
    @ericmaher4756 Год назад +2

    You can find work at any fast food joint in a heartbeat, it’s never been better, here.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +3

      you'll feel 20 years younger too when you're working with the students all day.

  • @gurvindersran4602
    @gurvindersran4602 Год назад +3

    All i have to say is that YOU ARE THE BEST MY BROTHER. Thank you for helping us by giving correct information ℹ️

  • @chadpescod-realtor3308
    @chadpescod-realtor3308 Год назад +1

    Or, 40 and 50 mortgages will start being offered. Sellers have demonstrated so far that they won't sell for big discounts. And buyers simply don't have the ability.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      What happens when the sellers don't have a choice?

    • @chadpescod-realtor3308
      @chadpescod-realtor3308 Год назад

      @@jonflynn That remains to be seen of course. But in a fiat based economy, is it possible to keep the zombie economy alive, forever? I would have thought no, you can't. But after 2008 things kept chugging along. Thanks for making your videos. They're enlightening and it's great how genuine you are.

  • @haticebilge7601
    @haticebilge7601 Год назад +1

    Why goverments last 20 years dıdnt build houses for low ıncome. There are lots of land

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      The last 10 years was the most important, they screwed up and were too busy hugging trees and other world leaders to care about us citizens.

  • @kruby1165
    @kruby1165 Год назад +1

    Thank you, Jon. Very insightful analysis

  • @indrajithabeysinghe2562
    @indrajithabeysinghe2562 Год назад

    Charts never lies! Great stuff..

  • @cricketlovervaruns
    @cricketlovervaruns Год назад +2

    You are just awesome.

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much 😀

  • @pedroandreoli
    @pedroandreoli Год назад +1

    What’s your take on the record level of immigration and it’s impact on real state. Also if you can comment on the recent update on foreign buyers regulation from the federal government. Thanks

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      Government rules never work, they're usually too late or backfire just like the foreign buyer ban is preventing some partially foreign owned developers from starting their projects. I feel bad for the immigrants coming to the land of opportunity and realizing how expensive housing is. Most will be priced out. The government needs to incentivize home ownership and building not try to regulate their way out of everything.

    • @alessandroc47
      @alessandroc47 Год назад

      Question: Do the states surrounding the Mexican border benefit from increased real estate valuations due to the enormous amount of illegal (and illegal) immigration coming from the south? The answer is no. Why? Because it takes more than immigration to prop up valuations. It's all about access to credit.

  • @brianko5720
    @brianko5720 Год назад +1

    How does Fibonacci Retracement affect RE price/predict it?

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      it's a mathematical tool used in many fields, you should google it, instead of listening to my basic definition.

  • @sukhjitsingh8269
    @sukhjitsingh8269 Год назад +1

    If Yuri Ivanenko was serious about building a life in Canada, he wouldn't have left all his assets in Ukraine. He didn't sell his house, his car. Probably wanted a job in sales for $100k+ & English is probably not his 1st language but they expect to get a job as soon as they land. He came here to be safe, avoid the war and be gone as soon as the war ends.

  • @frankrizzo2157
    @frankrizzo2157 Год назад +1

    excellent

  • @petsworld7126
    @petsworld7126 Год назад +1

    Government has lifted some foreign buyer ban which is fuel for high price again in this spring .. what do you think @ Jon on this ?

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      They didn't lift the foreign buyer ban then lifted some of the restrictions that stopped developers from operating that had partial foreign ownership.

    • @petsworld7126
      @petsworld7126 Год назад

      But .. seems like housing already going for high this week .. basically what’s listed for … or more ..seems like nothing is working to get back housing to reasonable price ..

    • @alessandroc47
      @alessandroc47 Год назад

      @@petsworld7126 Bull trap. Speculative money that was sitting on the sidelines all year last year piling it at the same time. This is what is known as exit liquidity. All these buyers will likely be bagholders.

  • @ronbonora7872
    @ronbonora7872 Год назад +2

    Many of the over extended will be going to the neighborhood bankruptcy trustee!

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      yep, will be a blood bath.

  • @jimmybaggs5342
    @jimmybaggs5342 Год назад +4

    Canadians would rather die than change their sentiment about real estate as it has afforded a means for people without any talent or ability to feel rich.

  • @monikori6473
    @monikori6473 Год назад +3

    The stock market is the same. Now it is artificially inflated so people don't panic with the bank collapses.

  • @VANCOUVERHOUSEFINDER
    @VANCOUVERHOUSEFINDER Год назад +1

    It’s all situational

    • @jonflynn
      @jonflynn  Год назад

      Thanks for the comment.