Street Photography on old Digicams
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- In this video I'm taking the Ricoh Caplio R1, the Olympus FE-170 and the Canon PowerShot A2400 IS out to do some street photography. These older Digicams are so much fun to shoot with.
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Guys! Here’s a follow-up video where I talk more in depth about the Ricoh Caplio R1 - ruclips.net/video/-HJChBHOZJw/видео.html
Who is the man under the sign at 3:45 ?
I grew up in film era and I still shoot film so I understand the nostalgia factor, but the revival of old digital cameras is a trend I never saw coming
Agreed, I would always go thrifting for film cameras and toss aside any old digital camera I came across, stupidly not giving them any attention. Now I'm on the lookout for both and enjoy 'digicams' for their outdated/nostalgic look.
I'm actually not surprised. There was already the Lomography trend toward using quirky cameras for their artistic effects. Then factor in the renaissance of technologies like vinyl records and classic iPods upgraded with flash storage and it was inevitable that older digicams would come under the radar, particularly with the high prices of film in many areas.
I didn’t realize it was a big “trend” rn until I picked up a finepix 1400z (1.3 megapixels 😂) at the thrift store the other day and looked up stuff about it. Def makes me feel like a kid again so I get the nostalgia factor
Same😂
@@trels203same😂
These videos just gives me the idea of how the quality sometimes does not really matter. It is how you take the picture.
i agree! you don’t always have to have the latest & greatest gear.
Cameras used in this video:
Ricoh Caplio R1 - 02:00 - 03:30
Olympus FE-170 - 02:27
Canon PowerShot A2400 IS -05:10
Thanks!! Are these pictures raw or edited?
nvm he added some white balance and contrast
Post production or in camera settings?@@convertible2987
@@convertible2987 There's no RAW for cameras this old, at least not point and shoot. Most likely jpg that he edited.
@@johnnyc.5979what? jpg?
i have been waiting for this trend to come back for ages! i love my old digicams. don’t get me wrong, the dslr is excellent in most situations but I miss the comfort of carrying a small compact camera. also, NOSTALGIA! And your photos are absolutely stunning. I am inspired to take photos again
Aesthetic is personal in the end, and I think the end result of some of your shots greatly illustrates this. New subscriber, but as a fellow photographer I appreciate the throwback appreciation.
I bought a Sony DSC-S75 back in 2001 for $700 (3.2-3.3 megapixels). I used it to take photos in the real estate industry so I was able to write most of the cost off. I took it all over the world including the Galapagos Islands with stunning results. That is, if I didn't crop much because it would pixelate badly quickly. I had a friend that had the Sony DSC-S85 (same camera but 4.1 megapixels) which made a HUGE difference in a cropped image so I bought one about 4 years ago for $15. They have Zeiss lenses! I now use it along with one of my film cameras on my local Beers and Cameras photowalks. It's slow to use so I slows me down therefore I take more care with each shot. However keep in mind, these cameras are TERRIBLE in low light without a flash.
Just get an SB-800 and set it to optical slave. Problem solved. Though personally I prefer the early canon G series powershots. Same megapixel count but looks almost like a film point and shoot and has a hotshoe. I love the G1
Between film and digital, I have amassed an embarrassing amount of cameras. I simply love them as tools, and I always try to look for particular models with some interesting features or quirks. I basically shoot with anything, but I've been shooting with older digicams for about 4 years now. For me, the reasons are mainly two: 1) I find I prefer the output of CCD sensors over CMOS sensors; I don't know if it's because I come from film and the way a CCD sensor renders colours is more akin to film… or if perhaps I'm just weird for not minding when shadows get crushed or highlights blown if the photo ultimately has character and mood. 2) It all began with me wanting to prove that older digital cameras from the 2000s were still perfectly good tools to take photos and that you don't necessarily need the latest and greatest to take good photos (yes, even professionally).
The fact that now these older digicams appear to be the latest trend in photography is partly heartwarming and partly frustrating because, naturally, prices in the used market for this kind of cameras are rising. Not reaching insane prices, mind you, but in some cases they're already passing that 'cheap & cheerful' threshold that makes this style of photography fun to begin with. I really enjoyed your video, David. Keep up the good work! Cheers, //Rick
Not really a "digicam", but I still have my Nikon D40 from 2006 and use it mainly with vintage film lenses. Although only 6mpix, the image quality still holds up pretty well and I really like the color rendition.
My mom told me too stop buying em 😭 like I can’t their just so fucking cool
So true!
I’m looking for a cheap old digital camera capable of giving a retro touch to photos, with a decent battery life, any suggestions? What would be your pick?
That’s true. I keep coming across RUclips shorts posted around 6-12 months ago and the prices mentioned in the video are typically off by $100-$300 dollars sometimes. Thankfully, I found a few old digicams from my childhood from.
It’s crazy seeing how the trend has shot prices up. I paid $300 for my canon g7x back in 2016, now they can’t stay in stock and people are paying upwards of $800 for them used. It’s insane
I recently found my old Olympus FE-350 wide 2007 camera, with a bunch of videos I took from I was 8. It really unlocked some deep childhood memories. Guess I’ll start trying to photograph me & my friends because the quality and sensor really do bring out the nostalgia you were talking about.
I'm shooting around now with a digicam we purchased decades ago: a Canon PowerShot SD1300 IS Digital Elph 12.1 megapixels. It's truly amazing, even in low light. Been missing out on a lot of fun with that little guy!
i love the nostalgia factor that old digicams bring. your photos are beautiful!!
I love your ‘photo eye’, great photos. I mostly shoot B&W film, but always put an old digital in my pocket. I have Canon PowerShot S500 and SD1000, which I bought new back in the day. I got the SD1000 for backpack camping because of its size and weight factor. Love it.
Thanks for your kind words! The SD1000 is actually on my list! It's called ixus70 here in Germany. Definitely a camera I want to check out.
@@davidvongries I've had that camera for years. First digital camera that I ever owned and I considered it to be my bff back in the day. Lol Very reliable and it really served me (and my relatives who used to borrow it)well. Sadly, it finally died a few years back. Now I'm keeping an eye out for it. I saw IXUS 80 IS, might get that one. Hopefully, it's as nice as the IXUS 70.
the cleanliness of the streets have me absolutely jealous, the u.s breaks my heart yet again
I’m from the uk and it’s absolutely filthy I visit the us regularly and find it quite clean and nice
I wanted a compact camera and bought a used sub-compact Olympus E-MP1 (Pen Mini). I wish that more camera brands would do sub-compact bodies like that! It's so much fun to have lens flexibility on a small form factor. I've since moved on to the E-PL9 which unfortunately doesn't allow for a nice viewfinder, but I do use it a lot and especially use it with a bunch of weird and fun vintage lenses.
The E-PM1 was my first mirrorless camera, I think I still have mine somewhere but it would probably need a new battery.
@@bwc1976 I picked one up on eBay a few months ago. Paired with the old 17mm f/2.8 lens, it's my walking around camera. I love shooting with it, and have gotten some really nice images.
I have a Ricoh Caplio R4 and really like it as well. The old Ricohs were really light on noise reduction, so at higher ISO you get a nice film-like grain (just do some color noise reduction on your computer to remove color blotches.) The original 8MP Ricoh GRD is pretty expensive now, but some lesser known Ricohs are really good too.
do you know where can i find them ricoh
Thank you! I am about to receive a Canon A520 4mp camera and can't wait to try some shots with it. Beautiful shots you took, thanks so much for sharing them and your knowledge.
hello i would like to know what type of SD card did you use for it?
Old digital cameras have something magical about their colors, my old Canon Powershot A620 is so much better then every mobile phone and even some half-professional cameras in getting this tones and hues
i have a fujifilm finepix a400, i took it on a trip to france in 2014 when i was nine and i found lots of memories on it when i dug it out so that was cool. im going to give it a new life and do car photography with it now i think.
I use mostly old digicams. My favorites are the hole Kodak c series it has the typical Kodak look and ccd sensors are actually Analog sensors that works with an Digital impreter. You get the film like look and i like the Trend! It is cool to give this things a new purpose.
Greetings from germany
Which Kodak C Series camera do you prefer? I have been experimenting with a C653.
Umm all sensors use an ADC not just CCD.
@@azaz911c c 530 is my favourite little cam
@@DunkelRuhrOutdoors These Kodak C series cameras take great photos. I have achieved some very pleasing results.
I am shooting on the Canon IXUS 125 hs. Modded it using CHDK to capture Raw
While the uptick in popularity is raising the prices of these cameras beyond what should reasonably be paid for them, I love seeing content that proves to people that you don't need to spend thousands, or even hundreds, of dollars on a fancy mirrorless to make stunning images. A few months ago I picked up an old fujifilm finepix z10fd, being part of the problem and paying a bit more than I should've because its decal was just unreal in the vibe department and I've been in love with it ever since. Here I was thinking that 7-megapixels would be laughably bad, but the little guy is a beast. I especially love the black and white filter for a super filmic look, beyond that adding just a bit of digital noise and light color correction / grading in post goes such a long way. I'm not a pro photographer but for my needs (instagram, small-mid size prints, visual design assets), it's plenty.
Edit* there's a blue one on ebay right now going for about $80, smh *do not* pay that much for this camera. Look at other fd models, most will be comparable, try not to pay over $50, $30 is a sweet spot from what I've seen, if you'll make money using it, you do you and adjust accordingly.
Nice :-). I like older Digicams too and have a tiny collection oft them. Most times I made landscape photo walks. My favorite ones are the Panasonic Lumix LS3 and the Samsung ES15. At the moment I am experimenting with the Fuji FinePix E500, a 4 MP camera from 2004.
With greetings from lower Bavaria
I will always prefer a camera with physical buttons and a strap, to a phone that seems like it was designed to slip out of your hand as easily as possible! Wish I could still afford to buy and develop film, the camera designs of the 70's through 90's have yet to be beaten! Especially Olympus with the 35RC, XA, and original Stylus/Mju.
More of this, please. Subbed!!
Asked my mom today to give me her old Panasonic lumix, so excited to take cool shots soon. Loved your vid and photography.
I bought an EOS M to use magic lantern on but decided I'd rather use it like this with vintage lenses. Loved this video. I loved the colors of the Olympus camera
Time for a new music paradigm with photography channels. It’s really done
I recommend Ricoh caplio GX (5mp), GX8, GX100, Fujifilm F700, Panasonic Lumix LC20(2mp), LC40 & LC5 (with Leica branded lens), and Kodak M series like M577 touch. All these are good for simulating a film look . The Ricoh GX and GX8 have no noise reduction and can produce a nice grain like look. Thanks for posting your photos and camera insights.
Old digicams have its 'advantages', if you can call them that. I recently got a Sony DSC-S40, a camera I wanted to get back in the day but couldn't afford it because, well, I was in high school and I was broke, so...
Anyway, I've been loving it so far. It's limited, yes, but those limitations force me to plan my shots more carefully and focus on composition and make use of natural lighting.
If I need a quick picture, I'd probably pick my phone instead. But if I go on a walk around the city, most of the time I'm taking this camera with me.
thank you for assuring me that i can get good photos with my 12 megapixels
Rico did the best. I like the shadows and its feels kinda vintage but still clear enough to see detail. Much better than smartphone cameras
I have FE-170 and really love the tone color. I have Olympus Stylus 550WP too but the color tone is much much better on FE-170 although it's 3 years apart
I've had a lot of fun shooting with cameras under 4Mp. Back in the day the camera makers where chasing the colours of film. I have shot images that look like film, & shot film that looked like digital. The Ricoh RDC cameras are a joy to play with.🐙🐙🐙
i don't write well in english... i live in russia and take pictures with different old cameras and it's very interesting experience. Many people think that old cameras have become obsolete, but I am completely sure that old cameras are an important step in the life of a photographer.
I found our old camera in the house and now carry it with me everywhere. Much nicer form-factor than even a slimmer, mirrorless camera and nice for snapping quick photos throughout your day. I enjoy film, but definitely did not expect to be bringing the old digicam back out of the closet lol
My old digicam? DSC RX1R, loving the images I get out of it, the simplicity of oVF and no wifi bring me back to old times.
Isn't the RX1R the full frame compact camera SONY made a while ago and which retailed for a couple thousand dollar?
@@Max_Mustermann yes, it's Sony's first camera with Full Frame sensor, has no built in VF and no WiFi so it's actually one of the simplest high end camera they've ever made.
It's over 10 years old now so yeah its old, just slightly younger than their 1st Mirrorless with the NEX line.
They finally fall to more sane prices and I got mine at 800 usd.
@@MuhammadKharismawan It is true that it's a bit older, but it is still a very nice camera and in a bit of a different league when compared to the cheap and usually crappy cameras most people label as "digicams" .
@@Max_Mustermann it's the camera that lead the full frame Mirrorless age we're currently on thus I like to think of it as an old classic, my only other camera was an 8YO 100iii that I've owned since its release, but even that one year newer camera feel quite different, more customizable and modern.
Sony designed the RX1 to appeal to old timer photographer and it fits.
Sure, people who buy the RX1 doesn't do it for the same reason people buy old CCD digicams but for me the appeal are the same, as Sony doesn't make their cameras the same way anymore, now they are so busy with their menus and features, they have vastly different color to current sony as well.
@@MuhammadKharismawan My comment wasn't really meant as criticism, but more of an observarion on the term "digicam". Most people seem to associate it with common point and shoot cameras from their childhood. But it is true that SONY's RX cameras were groundbreaking at the time.
Love your vids man, i love the humor everything, keep it up :)
Hey there, I'm now shooting on a Canon PowerShot A710 IS.
I'm in love with it, because of his settings and versatility, which can make really cool photos.
6-4 Megapixels and yet looked Cinematic
I have Powershot A520 which I got as a step between Coolpix L4 and my DSLR. I used it actively for about 2 years before another upgrade and it was mainly for night shooting: light trails, nightscapes etc. It's pretty good in that regard, but you do need to stack few images to get rid off the noise more often than not.
I do not know about your feeling. But for me, shooting photographs with old digital camera is very fun and have a lot challenging. I like your shoot.🤩
I thought I was the only old Fogie using old Digicams. Great content !!
bought all 3 of them after watching this video. thank you!
oh wow, let me know which one you like best! :) the one I gravitate to the most is the Ricoh Caplio R1 :)
I have a Panasonic LX5 which has a CCD sensor and the images are wonderful and very film like.
My parents still have an FE-170 somewhere in a drawer, bought years ago as our family's first digital camera (and also our last, as it was right at the time when smartphones with integrated cameras started taking off). While the lens is quite soft in the corners and the battery life is pretty bad, it is surprisingly fun to shoot with it.
Me i've got a Canon PowerShot G2 and Pentax Optio W10 as my classic digicams. I chose them back in the day for a variety of practical reasons and features and good dynamic range for the era, and i just kept using them.
I also have had Minolta Dimage X20 and a Canon Powershot S1-IS but these have died the sensor plague.
I have a Kodak C743 camera (7Mp) that was one of the early cameras that I bought for my wife. The colors are typically Kodak and very pleasing. More recently, I picked up a few cameras at a local thrift store, each for around $5. One is a Pentax Optio E50 camera (8Mp) that gives nice results. Another is a Fujifilm A170 camera (10Mp) that I was very excited about. Unfortunately, I think they may have been pushing the limits on that sensor and the results are not as pleasing as those produced by the other two cameras. My favorite thrift store find was a Canon Powershot SX110is camera (9Mp). I like it so much that I often use it as my travel camera when I don't want to be taking my Fujifilm X-T20 camera with me. The lens is outstanding and the Canon colors are great.
I have an old canon a410, that despite it's old age and only being 3.2megapixels, can take some phenomenal looking photos, like seriously the amount of detail and colour production is actually very impressive for being nearly a 17 year old camera. Unfortunately it is a bit difficult to use since the lcd display and the flash is completely busted/broken, but I got a work around by using my phone and an otg adapter to see the images that I take, and a bright flashlight as the flash😂. Low light still has lots of noise, but it still retains the details and colours.
Canon powershots are very impressive little cameras. One day I'll try fixing the flash and lcd display.
Photos look fantastic for 4mp really surprising
The blown out highlights, the digital date stamp, it's a whole-ass vibe, as the kids say
I agree with Dawn. Please do more of this kind of videos. And I just subbed too! 😀
I still use my Fujifilm FinePix F100fd, which I bought because it has a big sensor ( 1/1.6" ) for that price range.
Don't know if that cam with 12 megapixels falls into that category, but it seems I have to use it also in the future, especially after checking latest cam prices 😄
I managed to find a classic Sony DSC-V1. Great camera with full feature manual controls. I was also able to grab hold to a Tamrac Zipshot tripod which is great to use with compact digital cameras. Night shots are a lot more fun to capture.
Kool video. I started out in film back in 1970. Went full digital less than 10 years ago with DSLR and Mirrorless. However, I have recently broke out my older Canon SD1200IS and having lots of fun with it. I then picked up a used DSC-P200 for less than 5 bucks at goodwill, had to buy a charger and betteries on amazon but works perfectly. It even came with extra memory cards and a ton of someone's European vacation pics lol. also fun to use.
I found an old camcorder to have better old-style photos than that camera. Basically the camera isn't built for photography which meant the photo feature was an afterthought but that meant the pictures felt like something from a long bygone era. Its also pretty good at making really cool album covers
I’m just now jumping on the 2000s digital camera trend. My dad gave me my mom’s old camera this week. It’s a Panasonic LUMIX DMC-TZ4. I’m honestly pretty impressed with it. I also have a Polaroid Snaptouch (circa. 2018) which I dug out of my drawer to play around with.
i am using a used 2013 Lumix DMC SZ3, one of the ones with the Leica lens. got it used on ebay for only $60. love it. good backup to my Ricoh GRD3.
Ricoh Caplio R1 was my 1st digital camera (phone with camera was an luxurious product during that day) what make this camera interesting is beside using it's dedicated rechargable battery, you can just use 2 AA battery instead.
Dass ich mal erlebe, dass Aschaffenburg (meine Heimatstadt) so schön in Szene gesetzt werden kann! Danke dafür :) Unglaublich, wie die Zeit vergeht. Ich habe noch fotografiert mit Digicams in diesem Park, als sie gerade herauskamen :D
I bought my Olympus c-765 Camedia years ago, to try a
digital camera.
So then I bought a Fujifilm x100f
I saw Daido Moriayama using
a GR point and shoot.
So I thought I'd start up my
Olympus c-765 just to have some
fun. Still works fine, nice pics.😊
I got my start in the hobby with my Nikon Coolpix S550, carried it with me literally everywhere I went, and manage to take some shockingly good photos with it. There's a technique to these old digital point and shoots to get the shots right,.
mind sharing your technique hahaha
@@FlippyFlippers well for starters, they’re tiny sensors, so you’re gonna get grain, so shoot with as low an ISO as it’ll let you. You can’t adjust the shutter speed manually unless you have it set to a manual centre focus point, where you can sort of “grab” the exposed section and then flick back to where you want to shoot.
And mastering the exposure compensation feature is essential, otherwise it’s set to by default overexpose every scene a little. Which wouldn’t be an issue if they shot raw, but you’re limited to only JPEG.
And the S550 can take some lovely long exposure photos of night scenes with the programmed “fireworks” mode, you just need a tripod and to set the shutter using the timer so you don’t jolt the camera.
These are all what I used on my S550, so differences between models of course, but the idea is the same. You have to work within the limitations of the platform and make them work for you.
@@Merjia thanks!!
@@FlippyFlippers no problem! Happy snapping!
you sold me on the FE-170. bought one on ebay literally seconds after watching this video. can't wait for it to come in!
I recently shot on nothing but a PowerShot A400 for a few weeks after finding it in a box of old junk somebody had left for council garbage collection. I was expecting to use it similar to how I use my Mavica for that noisy early consumer digital look, but I was surprised with how good the results were from it, the images look better than a bunch of other cheap early point and shoots I've used over the years (and far better than early mobile phone cameras). Also, it takes AA batteries which I already have plenty of rechargeable ones, which is so much better than trying to get some crappy third party battery for old cameras. 10/10 would go through somebody's trash again. The silver front looks interesting too, so many people ask to look at it and think it's some rare collectable or something, haha nope.
I still have a Kodak EasyShare C813 (8.2MP), and I love the black & white photos it takes. I've been getting back into messing with photography and using this camera specifically because I wanted an authentic nostalgic feel lol but my main go to is still my Olympus pen E-PL1
Great video!
You gotta be careful about investing any time or hope into these old cameras.
This video has some great examples of why that is. The Ricoh and Olympus suffer from a huge lack of dynamic range (blown highs and lost lows). This alone disqualifies them from ever being considered as successors to or substitutes for real film, and in my view they could never be used as any kind of alternative to modern cameras. The Canon is better, and I can see a case for carrying it, since it's small and takes reasonable pics. But none of these cameras takes better pics than a modern smart-phone.
Thank you very much for this very interesting video.
Take care of yourself.
I wish they'd still make Canon A-400 type cameras.
I'm using sony dsc-t2 digicam. It has it strengths and weaknesses but it's serving me well as a beginner camera. I might try doing street phtgy with it.
Brilliant love it, I love anything to do with 90s and 2000s nostalgia so this is right up my Street, one of my favourite camera is the Olympus mju 300 from 2002-2003, I don't really use it much perhaps I should use it more, I have a few other digital cameras I have that I sometimes use every so often when I get the chance to 👍👍👍
i have an olympus 300 digital from jan 2003 (it's older than me lol), and i really like it because my parents used it al lot when i was really young and it actually takes pretty good pictures with a little effort. it's also all-metal, so it looks really nice and it's durable :)
Haha it's funny seeing the town I used to study here on RUclips. Nice way seeing it again!
i would watch an hour long video of you just walking around taking pictures its relaxing xD
Oh I miss Germany, especially Sembach and Kaiserslautern; I was stationed there for a total of 13 years. More of my home than the U.S., and I prefer the food and beer there as well.
Just found my old Sony DSC T100... Can't wait to use it
Just recently moved and found my old Sony Cybershot 6.0 Mega pixel. Really looking forward to taking it out and playing with it.
I have an olympus tough, canon sd1100 and ricoh grii. The pictures have a lot of flaws but has character to it with a nostalgic flavour.
i have a canon ixus 700 i take with me almost everywhere its 7.1mp but can out perform most new cameras today just has this special charm about it that a few other similar cameras don't have
Last year I bought Canon SX 120, Just for fun. It was 50pln (about 10-12$). Soon after I realized that it became my EDC and I loved P&S cameras. Now I use g5x and my DSLR catch dust when I do street photo or traveling.
I got the SONY DSC W150 , silver, released on 2008 ,8MP. Still operating
Old school charm meets modern streets🕰📸
I recently got a Ricoh R8 here in Japan. It's a joy to use 🙂
I'm using the Olympus pen mini with a fixed 25 mm lens. It's great
Since 2004 I shoot digital compacts for colour and continue BW on film with SLR's etc. Best digital compact I had was the first one, a Konica Revio KD420Z. Now I have a Nikon L27 that I shoot at 6 MP. Since 2,5 years I have a Lumix G2 too.
These days you can get older style low pixel count in newer models that are sold at budget prices for those people who don't want to spend hundreds on a
Digital camera and just want one for basic snapshots the only problem with the modern basic models is that they use their own unique smaller mobile phone style battery rather than specialized lithium batteries that were made by energizer or Duracell and therefore were easy to replace
Point n shoots are super portable for quick street photography... I got my Sony DSC W830 and it does its job more than expectation.... Great video pal . From India 🇮🇳
these digitals cameras can capture insane amounts of detail, i have an olympus sp350 which has only 8 megapixels but takes better photos than my Galaxy S8, minus the dynamic range being narrower
the way the exact same canon powershot has been in my house for ages... taking it out asap
I done a lecture on vintage digital around 2 years ago as I’ve been shooting with them a long time now. I usually go for ccd about 5mp and I have a lot of them lol
Heck yeah now that digicams are finally getting some love film is gonna get more affordable
Just picked up a 2008 sony cyber shot and im actually impressed at how good it holds up.
I shoot a 2002 Canon G2 PowerShot digicam. 4 megapixels. Still works great in late 2023! $25 CDN
Great presentation! I still enjoy my Olympus E100rs
So, any digital camera with a shutter, lens, image sensor and a memory card can give us great images… who knew? Cheers!
crazy right?
love your channel so much! great video :) subbed!
I shoot film and older digital point and shoot cameras. I love the old CCD sensors as they do have a film look.
Great video! Love the vibes 📸
I use Sony Cyber-shot DSC-W710
and it has....
actually very good quality but I shoot at 2MP at times for nostalgia
"4 to 8 mp for nostalgic shot" nice gonna remember that. gonna find some old camera. I only have HP CC330 with 16 mp
I have a Nikon Coolpix A100 compact digicam. I like to shoot with it 😁
3mp doing nice job, but unfotunately we use far better display (FHD,2K,etc) device for previewing the result photo, but for photography enthusiast its good experience to have one of it.