What if Hostile Aliens Find Voyagers' Golden Records?
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- Опубликовано: 8 мар 2024
- The Golden Records, humanity's message to the stars, is challenged by the question "What if Hostile Aliens Find Voyagers' Golden Records?" Explore the audacious project of NASA and Frank Drake that launched with the Voyager probes, carrying a trove of Earth's sounds, images, and music into the abyss of space. Designed as a beacon of peace, these records bear greetings in 55 languages, aiming to communicate with potential extraterrestrial life. But what if this message, intended to showcase the beauty and diversity of life on Earth, falls into the wrong hands?
In this video, we delve into the fascinating background of the Golden Records and the debates that have surrounded their creation. From the optimistic visions of their creators to the chilling Dark Forest hypothesis, we examine the potential risks of signaling our presence in the universe. With insights from renowned thinkers like Stephen Hawking, we explore the paradoxical nature of seeking contact with the cosmos. Could our cosmic calling card lead to unforeseen consequences?
As we ponder the balance between curiosity and caution, join us in reflecting on the significance of the Golden Records and the endless possibilities of cosmic exploration. Are we prepared for the potential outcomes of our interstellar outreach? Watch now to journey through the captivating narrative of humanity's quest to connect with the vast, unknown universe.
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As a seasoned Stellaris player, I know that the 3 most probable outcomes for a primitive civilization such as our own are:
1. We meet a hostile advanced alien species and things go very badly for us.
2. We meet a friendly advanced species that helps us prosper & take our place in the galactic community.
3. We cause our own extinction before first contact via toxic pollution or nuclear war.
Seems like we're on track for number 3 so far...
I sadly agree...
The Great Filter
4 we achieve the singularity in the next 30 years ..
Or (4) We meet a friendly alien civilization which wants to welcome us into their culture and religion, whether we want it or not. For our own good, of course.
We be f*cked.
Great vid. The thing that will anger the aliens who find the Golden Record is that even though it is free, the aliens are obligated to buy ten more records at regular club prices over the following two years! 😅
OMG dated yourself by a half century there Joe
@@tedl7538 We may already have won the intergalactic publisher's sweepstakes!
If they find voyager I don’t think the disk matters much anyways lol
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Yeah, they can just check what direction it came from and follow the route back to Earth.
They can backtrack Voyagers Trajectory to our solar w
@@Goatboy451 That is a lot harder than it sounds
@@keithposter5543 It'd at least give them the idea.
Isn’t our presence already traveling at light speed through the universe by means of our radio and tv signals?
What if nobody is tuning in? They may be out there but lacking the kind of tech used to receive the signal, either too old or too advanced....or they simply don't use that kind of tech.
Yes. The only danger was shorting some gold on earth. Which isn’t a big deal.
@@rob-time if they don’t have that kind of tech, it’s not very likely they have the tech to come to us
@@palantir135 I would argue that alien tech would be developed based on their needs within their own planetary conditions, which may be something beyond what we comprehend. Our tech is designed to work in our conditions.
@@rob-time many things are universal like like electromagnetic waves (light and radio waves), gravity, sound. To detect electromagnetic waves, you need the same kind of te technology as we have like lenses and antennas. Those will, if they’re sensitive enough, detect our radio signals. Then they must be clever enough to recognize that those signals are not natural.
If those aliens discovered electricity and are able to do experiments with it then one day they might invent communication systems and those will use electromagnetic waves. Then you also need antennas. They then will surely recognize other radio signals then those made by themselves etc.
I am old enough to remember this launch and Carl Sagan doing a lot of press about the records. There wasn’t much talk of it being a bad idea or a map for conquerers to find us. It seems indicative of our current doom and gloom mood that more people now assume aliens will be malicious. We see doom everywhere now.
Hehe, you get it. The gold mirror is telling us about ourselves.
Great comments from both of you guys. Very intelligent! Thank you!
Yeah, the video actually mentioned the early possible naivety of the people deciding to send it. If earth has taught us anything though, it's that all things here can manifest as good or bad, so why wouldn't there be both malevolent and benevolent aliens. Besides, something tells me all of this is a long played out farce, in that this planet has been here for enough time that alien entities of one kind, or another, are here now, and probably have been for quite some time.
Yep.
“Build the wall, build the wall”
I also think it boils down to modern science fiction stories too. In the past stories about aliens (barring War of the Worlds) were more positive and benevolent. Stories like ET or Star Trek where the aliens are more or less friendly and harmless. Nowadays we have more negative stories like Alien, V, and video games like Stellaris. Where the aliens are bloodthirsty genocidal maniacs who only intend to massacre or enslave all others. I think the very atmosphere of what aliens are has changed and there is more of an aura of negativity and xenophobia than there was in the past.
I think the chances of aliens detecting the voyager probes is infinitesimal therefore not a concern
Given that matter cannot travel faster than the speed of light, and light-speed is a very slow way to travel in interstellar space, the likelihood of aliens ever reaching us is beyond remote. By the time aliens find it, our Earth (and quite possibly our entire solar system) will probably have long ceased to exist - still, they'll know someone else was here
So you know the technical prowess of every life form in the universe and what they can do with it.....
After all this time, the voyager probes are still only 18 light hours from earth. Our radio bubble has traveled about 129 light years and has reached about 75 of the closest stars. That's 75 stars out of the 100 billion in our galaxy. It will take another 17,500 years before the voyager probes make it to 1 light year away from the earth. We are far more likely to develop new propulsion technology and recover the probes ourselves than them ever being discovered by aliens.
I think aliens watched us send it to begin with and thought...hmm, cute.
It's irrelevant. Any sufficiently advanced civilization that encounters the Voyagers will easily extrapolate its origin simply by the trajectory its on. I'd be more worried about the senseless drivel we've been broadcasting for the last hundred years. That's already hundred light years ahead of the Voyagers.
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They're going to say send more chuck berry
How are we going to explain R Kelly to them?
@@seanwebb605 Best not to - they'd only misinterpret it as hostile and vapourise the Earth.
@@simonzinc-trumpetharris852 Well we had a good run. It had to end eventually.
Any space-faring civilization would be able to determine Voyager's origin by analyzing its trajectory back to our star. The records only identify the exact planet. Even so, they could determine the most habitable planet without the record.
Great point.
Our star is not stationary
But they cannot get here.
@@zz-nc5kx A missile could.
@@TooSlowTube Had you studied freshman Physics, you would know that it can’t.
They haven't even left. They've barely backed out of the driveway. This isn't a concern. Earth is lit up like a beacon itself.
If there was a civilisation in the Omega Sagittarii system, a mere 80 light years away (which is basically next door) and they're watching Earth then they'll just have witnessed the first two atomic bombs. Over the next ten orbits they'll witness a whole load more explosions of increasing size. Can't imagine they'll be thinking 'they seem nice -let's pop over there and see what those guys are up to'
@@duncanhamilton5841 They've probably been through that little phase themselves. I'm sure they'll understand :-)
Exactly. Forgot the early AM and shortwave radios that can't even get past our own ionosphere, it's the tens of thousands of military and government radar platforms that are beaming out MEGAWATT pulses in EVERY direction 24/7, since WWII, on frequencies that pass seamlessly through our atmosphere straight in space. 70 light years away now!
WE ARE A BEACON, ALREADY!
It's a lot easier to detect life on Earth from thousands of light year away than to detect Voyager from the same distance. Voyager is not our problem in the dark forest scenario.
Haven''t watched the video yet, but I am going to say No to destroying the Golden Records... This is because we have already been sending radio waves into space and deep space for over 70 years.
The broadcasting waves don't have our address and genetic information in it those stupid gold records sent by so called geniuses have.
We’re judging the cosmos by our own low standards. Just because humans are aresholes it doesn’t mean the rest of the living universe is!
One can only hope.
It’s literally a ‘what if’ question. Those are typically defined by specific parameters. In this case it’s ‘hostile in nature’. There’s easily room for the alternative ‘what if’ of ‘docile in nature’. No one is saying this is how everything in the universe definitively behaves. You’re completely missing the point of the video with your nonsensical comment.
It means nothing whatsoever about "the rest of the living universe," if such exists.
I'm laughing because this is the most naive thing I've read on the internet all day.
@@LakkThereof I think that says more about you than me!
Finding intelligent life in the vastness of space, is way harder than finding a pin in the Pacific Ocean.
I get your point however I believe intelligent life have already visited us, we possibly are thier seed and they have known about us for milenia.
are sure about that.😈
@@australiagreg3179even if that were true, there’s a good chance they’d be extinct by now. If there is currently intelligent life out there, I don’t think humans would be able to comprehend it. It would be too different and foreign... possibly the equivalent to a dogs understanding of humans and the world
With today technology you can even find a pin in the pacific ocean it may take time to find it but home-sapiens are so determined that they will find it for sure. And we are not alone , no we can’t be that fortunate to get this precious life alone in ever expanding universe
There's a chance that if there's intelligent life they are also looking for us too. Us looking for a pin is a one sided effort.
Space if just so big , Idk if we will ever physically discover other life but , we def might discover their A.i first
I think we have a better chance of inventing light speed travel and going and retrieving voyager 1 and 2 ourselves before any other intelligent life finds these.
I mean if the Dark Forest Theory is real, then yes the golden record should have never been created.
If they've figured out Lightspeed travel, or using wormholes, they certainly will have figured out unlimited energy sources. This means the entities will have tech which allows them to recycle all of their resources. These aliens would also be able to mine asteroids and planets for additional resources.
All that probably means that they will have no need to exploit us, a very technologically young civilization.
No Need to exploit us. But it's still plausible that exploiting us is 1% cheaper than not doing so.
Or perhaps they pull bizzare alien pranks on us and film it for reality TV.
Agreed, however they might just want our planet to colonize if habitable worlds are rare. Although on the other hand, one might argue if they are advanced enough they could teraform whatever they want, but then again, a planet that is already in move in condition is also appealing.
Or they could use us as slaves and free labor for their asteroid mines. Progress is about constant growth after all; even if it means trampling on others.
Great video. I think that retrieving and deciphering the Voyager spacecraft's signals would still primarily align with a highly advanced Type I civilization on the Kardashev Scale, verging towards Type II.
I really love the Narrator's voice. It's just so soothing, interesting, and peaceful. Thank you.
THANK YOU for providing credible SOURCES, something few can or do nowadays.
This video is the sign of our time vs the 70s. Hope vs fear, generosity vs greed
Someone once said,
"There are two possibilities, either we are alone in this universe or we are not.
They are both equally frightening."
I honestly think there is life out there that we’ll never know. But the universe is so vast we can’t know. I don’t find that frightening.
Seriously, it’s like saying the sun may rise tomorrow or not, either way it’s frightening.
No it’s not.
@@danielpaulson8838 The sun is exactly what it has always been. It will rise tomorrow, no doubt whatsoever. Us being one of millions of intelligent species means we could be the ants in the ant farm. Us being the only intelligent species, means one asteroid and intelligence is over.
That was Arthur C. Clarke.
I think the point Clarke was making was that on one hand, if we are it in all the universe, it's up to us not to screw it up and kill ourselves off leaving no sentient beings in all the cosmos. On the other hand, if intelligence persists throughout the universe, it may be terrifying to think there might be "bad guys" out there to come and destroy us someday. In saying either scenario is equally terrifying I think he is being a bit ironic but with a little truth to it at the same time.
@@digitalfootballer9032 Not necessarily BAD guys. Just indifferent to our beliefs.
I remember Isaac Assimov wrote that he thinks any alien civilization far more advanced would be friendly toward us because its long survival shows it didn't destroy itself by technology; therefore its beings are coherant and nonaggressive. But that does have a flaw in that how they work together may not be true of those from different worlds and different biologies. Or even if not, continuing scientific progress in their own world may have been achieved by a rigidly enforced maximun age to keep from overpopulation. Just one ecample.
.....be afraid.....be very afraid.......how very human.
I do like the idea of aliens but what trips me up even more than the sheer vastness of space is the fact that we also have to consider time. What i mean by time is, having two capable sentient races within reach of each other at the same time. The odds of that happening are, to me, very unlikely unless sentient life is everywhere in the universe. Still, we could be on the frontier of the galaxy as well or maybe our area of the galaxy is typically devoid of sentient beings. Maybe all/most of the in the galaxy or even the universe is in the other side of the universe or galaxy which IMO puts the likelihood of humans ever encountering one of these races even further down the list of probabilities in my opinion. Even so, I still would like for us to encounter some race that is hopefully benevolent but given our own race as the only example we know of, like hawking said, that may not be the case and be prove to be fatal for all of humanity. Lots of odds to consider.
That was the hubris and arrogance of Americans at that times, we believed we were worthy of acceptance into the galactic federation.. so we gave out our address, told them of our riches, and that we have no way to protect ourselves from any even marginally advanced weaponry. Thanks!!
Really? It had to say United States of America on the actual record? Couldn't even put country and ego aside for the aliens 😂
Maybe when you become the most powerful nation ever you can do better
@@ExtraVictory It's funny when Americans think America is the most powerful nation in the world
@@jaketyler2702 I am American, but i was born in Japan, so I'm not very patriotic lmao. The fact that America is the most powerful nation (not just now, but ever) is an obvious fact lmao. Look at military spending over the past 50 years, china is second and still nowhere close. Russia can't even beat Ukraine 1v1. It's 5x weaker than Germany lmao. Germany being the richest most power European country, and yet absolutely nowhere close to China or America.
My actual home country is even richer than Germany actually, but doesn't even have a Military, just a self defense force that can't be used outside our territory
So there you go, the four richest countries (money is power) 1. USA (with by far the most military spending) 2 China (close but military spending gap is too big) 3. Japan (no military meaning purely defensive economic nation) 4. Germany (5 trillion dollar economy that does have a military & nato nukes but is small fry compared to USA and China)
So yeah, which country is actually stronger than the USA again? Since we all operate under capitalism you will have to show this imaginary country has greater wealth. More military spending over the last 50 years, & access to nuclear weapons, above and beyond what the United states has
Putin: "America is the only true superpower left"
He must have been big sad about the collapse of soviet Union at the time of this quote but this is still a huge blow for any argument against America as most Powerful country lol
The title of this video is THE premise of 90’s cartoon Transformers, Beast Wars.
My biggest problem w/ the whole Voyager thing is that Voyager 2 was launched first but named Voyager 2..... 😤
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You tell it, Butthead. hehe hehehe hhuhuhuhuhuhhuhehehehheheh.
Gemeni 7 was launched before Gemini 6 in Dec., 1965.
It's like the Star Wars saga 🤷🏿
A smart man such as Stephen Hawking should know that the vast resources we have available on Earth are also available everywhere in the universe and an advanced civilization cannot only gather those resources in a more sustainable way but can even synthesize the elements if Advanced enough
One thing that Earth has in abundance that no other in the solar system has. Liquid Water.
That may mean nothing but it may mean something.
@@rob-timeEuropa may have liquid water, 100km deep. And there is frozen water in abundance.
I don't think they would be after resources/elements, as yes these are widely available throughout the cosmos. What they might want though is a nice move in ready habitable planet, less the annoying little creatures currently running it. It may be that habitable planets with a breathable atmosphere, liquid water, and temperate climates are few and far between and they are looking for one to claim.
@@rob-timeI mean if we figure out how to synthesize water it will become significantly more likely they can too.
17 km/sec is pretty slow. At that rate, it'll take them 35,000 years to get half the distance to the nearest star. Any alien life already that close to earth will already be aware of us. If we haven't already destroyed ourselves, we'll be ready for any visitors.
If there’s aliens 👽 out their chances are they are currently receiving our tv and radio broadcasts.
We humans has been transmitting broadcast signals into space for about 100 years. these signals have already reached over 1,000 stars, most notably Vega, Aldebaran, Barnard's Star, Sirius, and Proxima Centauri.
Both probes have barely left our solar system. Any aliens that find them would already be close enough to detect us. By the time the probes have reached someplace where they could be found we will already be long extinct.
By the time Voyager falls into alien hands the pulsars will be way out of alignment rendering the map useless. No harm, no foul. Next existential crisis please...
Mission Impossible 9 would be about destroying voyager 1 and 2.
40.000 years to reach the next (!) stars?
My concerns that a alien civilisation will enslave us during my lifetime are enormous!
If an alien civ finds that in 50-100,000 years they will fear what humanity has become by then.
I got a great idea for a video I would want to see so bad. Can you please make a video of what would happen if hostile aliens come to earth? What would humans do , how governments would act. Please i want to see that.
We just witnessed what would happen in a global pandemic. I think it would be a similar response, but we wouldn't be as likely to have the technology to respond so effectively. BTW, the same goes for an incoming comet. The movie Don't Look Up addressed that pretty well. Fortunately aliens, hostile or not, are infinitely more unlikely.
@@CheatOnlyDeath i wonder how we would respond.would the governments of earth be hostile and defensive even if not provoked? And who would speak for Earth.
several years ago, there was a several part series of programs on one of the science channels: Discovery, NatGeo, etc. that was all about a realistic look at what could happen - how humans would react and what the aliens mght do. If you searched around RUclips or google the subject, you might find it. As I recall, it didn't end well for humanity. Load of fun.
It is happening right now, what Israel is doing to the Palestinians people. That exactly what could happen to the human race.
@@space1commander does that include us attacking the aliens and provoking them 1st?
Try finding an individual atom in the ocean? That's how hard finding a dead Voyager probe is.
It's time for Voyager 3....new and improved!!
The dark Forrest Gump is absolutely terrifying. He just keeps running and running and running 🏃♂️
This will NEVER be found. It's like trying to find a single ant somewhere in the Mohave desert.
once they here the music, they will leave us alone
Hear. Once they're here we can just get them a Spotify account.
why u hear writing stupid stuff@@seanwebb605
They've a limited time to find the Earth, from those golden records. The navigation pulsars that are used, will eventually distort their pattern, to become useless, as they orbit around the galaxy.
We’re destroying ourselves any way!
Unfortunately
A record needs a turntable such as the Linn LP12, but NASA couldn’t afford one, so they included a Crosley, which will scratch it so badly as to be unplayable.
Ain't nobody finding those specks of dust in a vast ocean
That thing could still be drifting through space after the earth and suns long gone...and probably will
It’s kinda like sending a sketchy text to your crush. We already sent it. Attempting to hide it at this point may gather more attention. What’s sent has been sent and we need to just live with it.
From a positive perspective, it could open up avenues for peaceful communication, cultural exchange, and perhaps even cooperation between civilizations. It could be seen as a significant milestone in our quest to understand the cosmos and our place within it.
Beautifully created Video. The Aliens on the Video looks super cool. The problem here is that they will not looks like humans. Every species evolved according to their ecosystem. But, it is fascinating how they create them looking almost like humans. It is like if we Humans were created by God or a creator we should look like our own creator.
Yeah. Most modern Sci-fi annoys me with their boring humanoid interpretations. It makes for simpler story-telling, but it is lazy science. The Simpsons probably got it right with Kang and Kodos, the octopoid aliens.
@@aliensoup2420Simpsons get it right many times 😋
But in Star trek TNG, The Chase, they at least explain why it's like that in that universe...
We also have convergent evolution here on Earth so, it's possible some traits work well everywhere, but yes, given that their environment will be vastly different they should look vastly different.
You are right. They won't even think like us.@@kricke243
You are right, they won't looks or think like us.@@aliensoup2420
Aliens don't need no pin prick of a primitive probe floating through space to know that this planet has an over populated unintelligent species bent on war and overall destruction. They will know this purely by doing a full range electromagnetic spectrographic analysis of this planets emissions.
By the time the Voyagers reach any possible civilizations, hundreds of years from now, the only thing the probes will indicate that there was once another advanced civilization somewhere.
What’s amazing is the earth will be long gone and those probes will still be flying through space
Why do humans always believe that aliens are idiots & self destructive like us?? This only proves how small a mind we have. We have to keep an open mind if we are to progress as a species.
Well said. We are rather judging them by our standards. And they are low!
If they are smart enough to master interstellar travel they can't be very destructive or they would wipe themselves out before progressing that far. They could however still be aggressive in terms of wanting to claim new territory.
In a far flung future, both Voyager spacecraft are retrieved by humans, or robots on our behalf, and become iconic artifacts. In the cosmic scale of things, they travel very slow.
But to be afraid that they will discovered by hostile aliens is ridiculous. Radio and tv broadcasts have announced our presence long ago.
We’ll be long gone before the records are found.
I like to think that some civilization will discover the records eventually, but not for a very very long time. By that point, who know what earth will even look like (or if we’ll even still be here).
The Golden Records cannot be destroyed. What’s done is done and the future will live with the consequences, good, bad or indifferent.
Awesome video and i haven’t even watched 10 seconds. More! More hostile aliens!!
No. It doesn't matter, the voyager prob won't get to the nearest stat for another 70,000 years. Our signals have already reached almost 100 light years. They would pick up our signals before they found voyager.
That golden record sent into deep space, is…in breach with the Dark Forest theory. Only, of course, when the disc sent into the darkness of space…the theory wasn’t around.
It's like when the Borg found out about earth. We should move
They're already outside our solar system. How would we catch up to them?
Given the vastness of the galaxy chances are it could be several centuries before even detection of signals occurs. Chances of humanity still being around then.. not looking good i'm afraid. Chances of robots chatting with other robots or aliens, much better I think.
There’s a lot of potential and potentially going on.
It's harms we don't know exist and options that might not be feasible.
Duh, go after it and burn it before something intelligent finds it. How could this have even been allowed?
Even if we didn't send directions back to Earth, I think any advanced civilization has the means to figure where the probe came from.
I say send records with everything.
What if Hostile Aliens Find Voyagers' Golden Records?
They'll put them between two halves of a sesame seed bun, add ketchup, mustard, onion, and maybe a pickle. Washed down with a frosty Betelgeuse Lite.
I’m sure an alien species has a prime directive to not interfere with the development of primitive life forms.
Just press "Unsend"
The Beatles' record label at the time stopped any of their songs being on the disc!
Worried about pirate copies being pressed on Alpha Centauri??
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Any being who could play the record could either easily backtrack the probe to it's origin and have the ability to travel it, or they can't travel the distance and can't backtrack it's path. Surely this was thought out long before the decision was made to include them with the missions. The map to where we are was intended for beings who don't have either ability.
Space and time are both, in practical terms as a species, are infinite. I mean if you think about time and from the start of the big bang to now as a 24 hour period, the time we have existed as a species is like a second. In that kind of scenario the chances of us bumping into another species that exists within a reachable distance AND a time frame we can comprehend is nearly impossible.
Then when you get into relativity it becomes an even bigger nightmare. I mean imagine we sent ships out to travel at the speed of light in some kind of suspended animation. As time slows and passes lots slowly for them time has increasingly sped on earth. Then a few centuries later we invent FTL. We could end up having a ship we sent out centuries before land on a planet and find humans have already colonised it for decades thanks to FTL. Plus how do you have a universal reference of time when speed changes time? If we did spread out amongst the stars why or even how could we keep using time with reference to earth? Day and night cycles are different, seasonal weather variation is different.
Bit fucking late to worry about it now....
The 55 languages alone will confuse any aliens.
Why start a costly war when it is easier to use the resources from the vastness of space?
Perhaps we are the first to reach this stage of development !
If an 'alien civilisation' finds the golden records, they'll know what neck of the galaxy to avoid tbh...
The way we're going, there'll be nothing left to exploit..
If the dark Forrest theorie is real than humanity have a big problem
Dr Steven Hawking and Henry Haber agree.
When a hostile aliens need this plate to find Earth and they do see us in every other possible way there's no need to be afraid, they are cavemans of the galaxy.
You don't think they might pick up on our radio signals first?
That little golden record will burn up upon entering a planet's atmosphere. Why not put it in something that can withstand entry??
I still believe there are many planets that habour alien life but do u also know that there is a possibility that we are the mist intelligent species in the universe
However many km per seconds makes no sense to us, how much is that in miles per hour we don't count speed per second here on earth.
the gold record wont be found by anyone cause no one travels space like we do.
I know for sure we are not alone in this space, but problem is we shoud not conctact anyone yet... look our world full of wars... we not ready.. and it coud be our end.. remember what happend to native American people after first visitors?... space is probebly full of battles going on same way as here on our planet... survival of finest.
If the aliens can't find the entire planet Earth, what makes people think they'll find a tiny probe instead?
Are we capable of actually destroying the records? Is there a self-destruct switch? I'm pretty sure we can't send a spaceship after it.
We have zero capability of even getting close to voyager, we set our fate when it was launched. It's got a 40 yr head start lmao
I wonder about hanging out Earth's shingle. Think about our own history. Whenever an advanced people meet less advanced the less advanced have usually always suffered.
American Indians as just one example.
If the Dark Forest Theory is right then I think this is the last thing we have to worry about. Let's just assume that Faster than light travel is impossible and the distance between civilizations is at least 100 lightyears. Then it won't get into their territory for millions of years. Even then, I doubt any civilization could decipher English but if they understand the ability to store data and images on the disc than they could access the nude photos on it and know that we exist, but by that time we'll be long gone. I think we have to worry more about interstellar radio messages, they could be easily detected but would be hard to decipher. If the Dark Forest Theory is right than I bet 100s of civilizations have been wiped out doing the stupid thing we've been doing.
Seems rather moot considering the likelihood that alien life has already visited - or currently visits - earth.
I'd be more worried about our radio signals travelling at the speed of light, based on that if aliens clever enough to be in space they'd be here by now.
Are we not getting a tad bit too paranoid?
Ridiculous! Finding Voyager in interstellar space will be next to impossible. A speck of sand in the ocean.
Beaches are known for sand. Oceans are known for water. And Johnny Depp.