Miata Engine Swap Guide - Which One is Right For YOU?
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After review many different engine swaps for the Miata which one is the best choice? It all depends but we give you all the information you need on price, costs, installation, driving experience, and how fast they are.
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Speed Academy: that's all the options...
13b: am I a joke to you?
First choice has to be 13b!
Mazda been there done that with the excellent, but Failed RX7. Did you "put your money where your mouth was" when they made them? Rotary was not the answer then or now.
Papa torr sounds like one of those guys who just doesn't like rotary engines 🤣
For non-car people, yea, they are absolutely terrible. I mean who the hell wants to constantly be popping their hood every other trip to the gas station to check and top off the oil? That along with ever increasing emissions requirements is what killed the rotary engine... not because it wasn't a competitive engine. As a go fast smile generator, it works pretty damn well. Also, it turns out that as a legitimately competitive racing engine, the rotary does pretty damn good job at that too.
@@quickcooper61sounds like one of those guys who just can't accept rotary reality. Had the industry dedicated a tenth of the R&D money into the German/Wankel engine that it dedicated to making piston engines more fuel efficient it might be a commercial option today. Intuitively, an engine that has parts continuously going in the same direction appears to be a superior design to a piston that moves in one direction then in the opposite direction many thousands of times per minute. Many examples of this in the market where the less efficient design won: Original Apple OS vs DOS. PC won, and PE won. (Piston Engine).
It's INCREDIBLY difficult to 13B swap a miata compared to a turbo BP, K series, LS, or even J series swaps.
Owning a stock 1.8 Miata I can’t imagine having an LS 400whp in a Miata. That must take some serious skill to control
Hey you are talking to serious skill, what can i help you with?
I own a stock 94 1.8L Miata & a 385 whp 6.0L Miata. It’s funny haha
just means you cant use the throttle
I think the world hasnt caught up with the newest engine potential: the gm LV3 (aluminum OHV v6) its the perfect miata swap
Radbug yep exactly. That’s why I drove my stock Miata 4-5 times a week, but the 6.0L 1-2 times a week
K-Swap fits with the Miata character the best.
so far they havent really talked about the swap i want on my 99. I live in california and i want to street it so ive got to be a little more picky, but that opened my eyes.
Seeing the k24 puts out around 260h, i wanted something similiar, and thats how i came to my decision. my swap sposed to be 275 stock, and its still a straight 4.
and thats all im gonna say about that
Honda K-Swap or the 1.8L K8 v6?
@@henrikwillamo6287 the 1.8 v6 is pretty weak compared to a K24, even a KLZE (2.5L) will be down on power compared to a K24.
Radbug GM Ecotec?
@@k1ng878 TRASH! GM Ecotrash!
My spidey senses were tingling 😍
Yo i live in florida if i do that engine swapp i talked to you about the other day in the comments section would you want to review the (mostlikely death trap) unique build?
Just a note, I did my aluminum 5.3 Swap with CD009 for right at $13,000 and that was with going way overboard on the fuel system to do E85 and piecing things together. I think you can get close to $10,000 if you were to buy a donor car and part out what you don't need and get everything for the engine in one shot and not have to track down things like transmission bolts and such. But the CD009 is my favorite shifting trans. So it works out pretty well.
Oh also, the monster Miata kit is way easier than the V8R kit. No cutting of the firewall or anything like that.
Thanks Taylor, CD009 is a great way to go since the shift quality of the T56 is 💩. Impressive you did your swap so affordably! 👍🏼
Taylor, do you ever wish you would have went turbo k series? I would absolutely love to see someone of your caliber and attention to detail, build such a vehicle.
the best engine swap is an affordable one.
Well said
The best engine swap is the one that works^*
@@gabemullenpowerlifting2334 coincidentally also being the more affordable option
The best swap is the swap you can actually complete.
Which is?
Kmiata is working on a K24Z3 kit that will bolt on to the miata's stock subframe. It's a game changer
game changer as in cheaper to swap?
@@chanmanthegreat1429 it would be cheaper not having to replace the subframe
@@kolourblind3124 I still have no idea how much a kswap costs. People say $7000-10000 but kmiata has swap kits for way less
@@chanmanthegreat1429 the swap kit is the least important part of a swap, you neex everything else, ecu, headers, intake, axles, and thing by thing the price goes upwards
@@ulisesavila2879 ohhh
I'm a simple man. I see a miata, S2000, or sti; I click and I like the vid. Oooh and add a K20 swap in there too? I subscribe and click the bell.
Honda K series for the win!!! Can’t beat the reliability and power.
Or Tuning and Aftermarket!
Well inst problem with swaping engine from FWD car into RWD ?
@@lukaskarpisek9659 No, not at all, K20/24s are usable in a RWD configuration thanks to RWD kits. Jinak ahoj:D
I'd love to see the Jswap Miata on your channel!
Most likely end up with a cracked oil pan by the end of the session lol.
That problem has been resolved with the Gen 3 oil pan from Mini Tec
@@colinmerry3544 Many posts in the J swap miata group on facebook say otherwise lol
Still gotta love the K swap. They can make solid power and I love the rev happy nature of those engines. I think over 400 hp from the V8 in the small, semi floppy chassis of a Miata is a little too much. Obviously, as you said, if you throw enough money at it you can make it work really well (wider tires, massive chassis bracing, maybe a cage, etc)
Tell us what you think! What's your engine of choice for the Mazda Miata and check out all the video links in the description for more information on the certain swaps.
what do you guys daily drive?
more 1uz miatas!
What ever! The ideal for me is a 240-260 wph! This much is enough for track day, and enough for every day drive!
LFX v6 pushing about 320whp naturally aspirated is quite good for me.
For me, it's got to be the basic stock block turbo miata simple recipe ftw. I still appreciate any attempt made to perfect stock block power out of a turbo miata build.
K series >OR=to Built BP >OR=to LS Swap >OR=to LFX swap & ITB Miata is it's own separate category.
K swap all the way.
Turbo/ high HP BP is expensive and temperamental. But a mild turbo setup to 250hp is the cheapest option.
LS is extremely expensive and requires heavy driveline mods
Rotary is expensive and temperamental.
K swap is relatively cheap, reliable, easy 250hp (limit of driveline), insane aftermarket and great online support.
Kswap for me. 1000kgs and 200whp+ NA power. Is just perfect! Love the driving experience and enjoyment that a high revving NA motor delivers
Car throttles Phil: Am i a joke to you? V6 FTW Phil...
Yes. Car Throttle is literally a joke as is his car and as are all of us who’ve watched his stuff
Check out Car throttle's v6 engine swap Phil from the uk
This
Maybe try contacting Rocketworks Sports Cars, they do these turnkey conversions in the US.
Also the Honda V6 as well
@@jewelcoNL I thought they only offered it for UK, but if available in the US that swap is the one I might be doing....its between ecotec or rocketeer if its US possible
Do a V6 Swap
I really want to hear what these guys say about the V6 swaps. I feel like that is the sweet spot.
I think the 3.7 in the 370z/G37 would fit perfectly
@@urgayifyoureaddis there are multiple people swapping in the LFX/LGX 3.6 out of the Camaro, (which is a great sounding engine.) Kits are readily available. There is also a kit for a honda/acura V6 I believe as well.
RV6-r32 swap?
@@zeanyt2372 Theoretically that would be really ideal. The power of a V6 with the simplicity of a 4 cyl. But it being a VW, I worry about the cost if parts when stuff do break. They’re relatively reliable, but the cost of the parts are just expensive.
@@devandrasimanjuntak1646 well it's built like the old air-cooled boxer 4. Keep up on maintenance and it's relatively cheap. The one thing you have to worry about is the timing chain and Associated tensioners, any of those fail and you might have a ruined block. In-my-mind regularly inspecting the timing assembly should be part of regular maintenance anyway. So yeah there kind of built like a brick house. Also a great platform for Boost, easily can get over 300 horsepower.
The LFx swap is the greatest for this car. Suits it perfectly and is plenty fast. The J-swap isn't great because it sits too low. For me it's between the K24 or the LFx.
Isnt the engine setting lower supoosed to help the CG and be better for handling? Lol just asking. Im not familiar with either of the swaps just a general statement
You must be referring to the Mini-tech V6 kit that has the engine too close to the pavement. The new kit from OZ Engineering solves all those issues and retains the stock subframe and transmission with a rear sump oil pan.
I have a ~225whp Mazdaspeed Miata and it is plenty of fun. It takes way too much extra work to make it track reliable though (mine is street only). I can see the K-swap being fun because NA and 8k but it wouldn't have the torque I've got down low. I see the LFX swap being perfect for a track car that will be reliable and not overwhelm the chassis like a V8.
Brick by brick, dollar by dollar, body by body. The k swap has my ❤️
K swap isnt everything ffs. People swear that's the GOD engine.
Has the problem with turning left been figured out? Matt Farah mentioned it in his review of the K-miata a couple of years ago.
Why is no one talking about the oil starvation issues for track use on the K motor due to the orientation of the engine. it is really known here in California. Otherwise you would see alot more K builds.
Gabriel Rubio Bluetooth oil feed lines will solve that problem
I looked online for the lines and found nothing. I would like a link to send all my friends with blown k motors including s2000s
I seem to remember Rotary being one of the first swaps for a Miata ?? Is racing beat still around?
Most definetly they are. I get alot of my bits for my RX-8 from them.
Yep!!! For sure lower to the ground, light, closer to the center of the car, mazda engine and makes good power. Renises, 13b REW and 20b na.
I haven’t watched the vid, but it’s obv. the best swap yea. High rev. NA 13b
@@arrivendrive6831 Too low to the ground in fact. The rotary swap has problems with the oil pan being too low since the output shaft is higher up compared to the BP.
@@dek4de I have no experience in this swap although I do own a Fd. I have seen a few rotary miata engine swaps on youtube and one REW 13b swapped in person. I wonder how they did it.
I am a miata and Evo guy! i'm loving this journey of miata content but cant wait to see what you guys are going to do with that Evo 6!
4g63 is the coolest swap for miatas
@@johngorgis aren't 4g63 iron blocks tho?
@@lol-ok5sq yeah , iron blocks only weigh about 20 pounds more than an alluminum but are stronger for boost
K series 110%. Once you buy in, the possibilities are almost endless. 300whp NA... 500hp FI. Dead nuts reliable with 210-230hp stock engine. Frankly it’s a no brainer long term.
Y'all forgot the Geo metro Inline 3 cylinder
All joking aside I bought a pet project my mechanic & machinist buddy built for shits and giggles in his spare time. Lets just say I owned it about 6 months before I sold it back to him lol. SO much fun I just couldn't keep it together. Hes a Geo/Suzuki man, has built a few trackers/samaris (or a mix of the 2 really lol) for rock crawling. Had a 3 cylinder Geo and engine needing rebuilding. He ported and polished the head, intake manifold & even the exhaust manifold. (You can buy peformance Suzuki 1.3 4 cylinder parts, not much for the 3 cylinder tho). Ported the throttle body out as big as possible, so much that he had to weld a piece of an old Alen wrench to hold the injector in the middle. Head and the block were both shaved as much as they could possibly be for compression and the rotating assembly had a total of 7.5 lbs cut off... Thats insane for a 3 cylinder. It was so drastic that when installing a new clutch it wasnt balanced right so I had to go get a spare crank he had cut to match and have the clutch rebalanced to match. Just a nightmare. Yes it made almost 100 hp N/A, and in a 2 door Geo Metro with about 500lbs cut out it was fun as hell to drive. It would rev so fast it would crack the air like a streetbike lmao. Seriously sounded that pissed off and with a 2.5 inch straight exhaust from header back it would pop a flame. Drawback is it was about 1/10 as reliable as my other stock Metros have been tho. You pay a price when you start stretching the rubber band too far lol
The ULTIMATE swap.
Onelapheroes! represent! Kostas v6 swap is great! also another one of them (Serxio) is building a k20 miata (for quite some time now...)
anyway, my opinion from 1st to last:
1. K swap
2. v6
3. bp supercharger
4. bp n/a
5. v8
6. eco tec
K-Swap will always have my vote. Great motor in a great chassis. So much potential right out of the box, it's beyond a well built n/a BP.
Regular Car Reviews dude drove a 1UZ-swapped Miata in New Zealand... looked like lots of snarly, barky fun :D
oops, replied to the wrong comment lol
I am actually in the process of shopping a good platform and engine to swap in currently. This was helpful listening to you guys literally have the conversations I would be having with myself and people around me. Good stuff.
I think K swap is the ideal swap. Still a "stock" motor swap so reliability isn't affected like a turbo setup (more parts, more points of failure). LS looks like a repair nightmare, plus the supporting parts (ie. cooling) adds cost. BP motor is fine, but it's sinking money into a black hole; dollar for dollar K swap beats it.
Bang for buck power = Turbo BP, Ultimate Enthusiast = N/A K-Series for now, but maybe N/A 13b might be the ticket, we'll see ;) The real answer is just buy an S2000....j/k, buy both haha. In all seriousness they are all great and all offer unique driving experiences. Go for whatever setup tugs at your heartstrings the most and enjoy life! ❤️
My imaginary build - An F20C in an NB. Just call it an AP0 S2000 😅
Yes, I want to see a J32/35 or LFX Miata on the track!
All about those jv6's
I'm barely sleeping dreaming about J37 swap... It's such a sexy combo.
LFX yes. JV6 doesn't really fit under the hood height wise and the miata 6 speed won't last long behind it.
LFX > J-series swap. The LFX swap kit is much more refined, and the transmission behind the LFX is designed to withstand the power. The J swap is a cool idea, but the kit is really really rough around the edges and clearance for the hood and oil pan is always going to be a challenge.
#7 LFX miata autocross shootout results
limerock.com/sites/default/files/2019%20Autocross%20Standings%2010.22.19.pdf
I'd love to see a S54B32 swap. Wouldn't be cheap though.
Also a SR20DET would be a good bang for the buck.
Really great discussion guys. And love the little shout-out to Tom's Turbo Garage. Tom is brilliant.
for sure the K swap fit the miata the best.
but speed ain't cheap
Love my Kswapped Miata. Been a great track car for the last 4 years i have had it
what’s the 0-60 srry if thts a stupid question
A rotary, LFX, and K turbo review(s) would be good for future videos! And then discuss with us more how you guys feel again haha. Great vid, I enjoyed this one.
This is Gary from OZ Engineering. We manufacture a Honda J series V6 swap for the 1990 to 2005 Miatas. The kit uses a early or late model Honda/Acura V6. We believe it provides the best balance between the 4 cylinder and 8 cylinder options out there with a very reasonable cost and retains the Miata gearbox and transmission. Would love to see what you think about it!
Time for the LFX V6, that's what is going in my car
Hmm, I thought the ITB Miata would've been in your top 2.
One of the coolest V8 swap Miata’s I’ve seen is a 4.0 from an LS400. Sounded great too
Im a firm believer in the NC platform. NC allows for bigger wheels and tires which equals more grip, 2.0l setup from Fab9 will give you 350whp safely, ECUteck with a lot of options, 2.5l swap option is a plus.
Great video, I really love the sound of high revving ITB N/A motors, if you can keep the custom machine built motor costs under 10k it is def worth it.
Hi rev NA engine, hmmmmm. Takes me back to the days of my 91 Gen 2 RX7, and damn, I still miss it.
A buddy of mine has a turbo miata 1.8L bored out to a 2.1L stroker with a turbo kit on it and he was having serious traction issues as it put down a little over 340hp to the wheels on a 235 width tire. His solution was actually to use custom made spacers on the rear sub-frame to create a larger gap between the inside of the wheel well and hub assembly and was able to put a 285 on the rear, thing hooks and boogies now with R888's on the rear. If you're okay with a bit of front leaning rake the solution just works, the next best thing would be to tub your rear end and put some kind of trick suspension system in the rear but that would be well into the thousands vs. just a couple hundred bucks of some spacers.
You can always add power, but you can't always shave weight, so K20 it is for me, lighter than the stock engine, improves the weight distribution, more than 100 hp/l and 8000 rpm, can't get any better.
Brais
Damn right.
J32 Swap! Honda reliability
I'd love to see a Toyota v8 swap, one of their higher revving less torquey engines to help manage traction a bit better while maintaining crazy NA performance.
No idea how doable it is, but hearing the complaints about LS torque versus available traction that's what came to mind.
The production Bullet made in Australia used an MX5 body with custom made front clip to take a supercharged Lexus V8. Awesome
I bought a 96 Miata with a 2.4l Ecotec for $4000 with vmaxx coilovers, rpf1’s, 4:30 gears, hard dog roll bar and power steering. So far, so good. What I like about it is, there is a crap load of le5’s out there. Our local wrecking yards have many of them for $500 or less. blow a motor, spend $500 and a day and then you’re back on the track.
The best engine swap that would fit the Miata's character in my opinion would be a 9AGE. It's a Frankenstein of an engine using a 7AFE block, 4AGE head (preferably the 20v Blacktop), 1ZZ crank, 1ZZ, 2ZZ, or 7AFE rods, and a set of custom 83mm pistons. The result is a rev happy, NA 2.0 inline 4 with around 230HP at 8000RPM and 180 ft/lbs at 6000RPM. Pretty damn good for a four banger, and it sounds awesome with ITBs.
a well buildt 400whp BP engine (lasted me a decade so far), and a bmw 7 speed dct swap(new this fall) was my choice :D combined with tractioncontrol it makes the car insanly fast and easy to drive.
I just looked at you're video. You're MX5 is MENTAL 😍😍 ! Omg a DCT/400whp MX5 must be crazy ? Please upload more vids. Lots of respect for that. How long did it take to do ? How did you manage the DCT is it with a the main ecu ?
@@CharlieboySLONDON took me a few months to build :) not an easy swap. But should be pretty much bulletproof as the DCT with higher oil pressure can handle 1000nm on stock clutches.
I definitely think the BP with stronger internals and more boost is a great engine for the Miata. I have one. With a 6 sod and a 3.6 rear it is amazing. However for an actual race car the DCT is unbeatable. That has to be wicked fast around the track.
@@Red2l16v Ill know for sure in a few months(waiting for summer). but it was already a really fast track car, and now i have added more power, and DCT. It should be epic :D
Going with turbo for bang for buck
Love this discussion. Hopefully by next year, Quinn will have his 13B swap done and I’ll have my Rotrex Supercharged Kit done. We’ll have to come back with a longer trailer!
I would say a VQ swap mid way between K and V8 swap. Plus there are some swap kits for it also
You should invite team O'Neil rally school for the RUclipsr challenge
That would be awesome. What a great suggestion.
@@jonathanstoddard7712 thank you, I'd really like to see how Wyatt would do in a Miata on the pavement lmao. Please make it happen David haha
Or have someone from the Miata spec class from SCCA. You'd be surprised how fast they can drive with a stock motor.
@@Kawaii_Life. I think the episode with carpassionchannel and slip angle they said Quinn was an ex spec Miata racer so i don't doubt it
I think you should totally do a K24 swap video series! Maybe you can get one of the swap companies to sponsor the build?
If I were to swap the stock BP on my NB, I would probably do the Jaguar AJ 3.0 V6 out of the S-Type, which is basically a hotter version of the Ford Duratec. The AJ was rated at 240 bhp from the factory, which is less than the 330 bhp from GM LFX, but it arguably makes a much better noise. The AJ also retains the Miata transmission, which should theoretically make the swap less expensive, if only the Rocketeer conversion kit weren't so expensive to ship over from the UK. Based on this video, it seems like the AJ might be a good fit for the Speed Academy Miata.
I went k24 swap. Kmiata hooked me up, and I havent looked back. I own a 2003 s2000 as well, lightly modded. My 01 k24 miata does better at the track. I was able to get my hands on my Miata for 3500 bucks. Pulled the engine and sold it. (As i bought this with a plan). Spent in total around 9k in the swap and some small supporting mods (wheels rear 235/45/17, front 215/45/17, supsension, fender, flares, exhaust, intake, ecu, tune etc). I paid 12,000 for my s2000, and have about 2k in mods. My miata for the money will do circles around my S2k. K Miata, best chasis, best engine.
What about the Mazda K-Series in a Miata?
The 2.5L V6 "KLZE" ?
It's a common swap for Mazda MX3s
Was thinking the same. There's even a kit for the KLiata
A turbo on the stock 1.6 or 1.8 in the Miatas works damn good. Friend built one with a big 16g TDO5H turbo from an EvoIII. You can pick one up for less then 200$. Even cheaper then that if you settle for the "regular" 16g that come on some DSMs. Mitsubishi had some good turbos stock no doubt. Dont have to spend 1000$ on a turbo. Especially when 250-300 hp would be a TON of fun in one. Any more then that and your really overpowering the car. Nothing wrong with that tho lmao
There is a fantastic version of that swap , originated in England, from :
www.rocketeerltd.com
They also have a U S affiliate:
www.rocketworkscars.com
Just because an engine exists doesnt mean swapping it is a good idea.
Those engines are unreliable crap, dont make very good power. Aren't that common. More reasons not use them in a miata than there are to use them.
Multiple better v6 options now that have already had solutions engineered for the miata.
Look up j35, lfx, and rocketeer swaps.
@@gwodark repeat after me... that is not the same engine. The duratec v6 can actually make power, sounds amazing too, at least the jaguar ones.
The KLZE barely makes as much power as a 1.8 with cams, itbs, and a tune. Makes less power than a 1.6 or 1.8 with a cheap ebay turbo setup.
What do you think about rotary swap miata?
Just buy an RX7 they're better looking and still super light.
@@Shakshuka69 Price of an RX7 vs a miata are vastly different. plus any rotary car or motor you get, you will probably have to get all the seals replaced anyway. do the swap but rebuild the motor before dropping it in since youll have to do it anyway
@@mugen91integra you honestly think it's cheaper to buy a clean miata and rotary swap it than to buy a clean RX7? How you gonna have AC or power steering or functioning gauges? You gonna swap to a standalone? Now you're into it another couple grand and your car doesn't want to start when it's hot.
@@Shakshuka69 clean Miata can be bought for 3 to 4 grand. A clean fc rx7 Is anywhere from 9k and up. A clean FD is over 25k. For another grand you can have your AC and power steering and still be under 8k. Chances are.... The AC in those rx7s probably don't work anyway due to age. Besides...it's his car. Let him do what he wants. Maybe he likes the Miata better than the rx7... Who knows
There are some out there and I really wish these guys would test one. A NA rotary is very dependable and one can get over 200 hp out of one, turbo ones at 300 are also dependable, check out the hoonigan chanel.
Boosted BP is the route I went I think it's the best performance to price ratio, Hopefully doing a forged build in the near future.
Discovering the true cost of these swaps and boost systems, I think I'll just fix the leaking oil pump in my 1.6 and put it back in. It's tempting when we have to pull the engine to brainstorm possible replacements. But those are big bucks.
Interesting video, thanks.
Agree with these guys; Would love to see tests of a Honda V-6, GM V-6 or Ford V-6 swapped Miata. Just seems like a Miata is well suited for a NA or supercharged powertrain.
CarThrottle has a Duratec V6 Miata that was built by Rocketeer
1.6 EcoBoost swap. I just have a custom tune and I'm at 210whp and 257wtq in my FiST.
You can make 210 hp on the stock Miata 1.6 with a turbo tho. I do love the Ecoboost engines tho
@@willspicer3190 I just did a quick RUclips search and even the turbo Miatas make no torque. There are two types of car people. Those who "get to rev it out" and those who "have to rev it out". I'm a "have to" person. I prefer torque over HP. I fully understand the other party, though. The sound of a rotary hitting 9 grand is a wonderful thing, just not for me. Cheers!
@@pandanoff for sure, I love the Ecoboost engines for sure. Would like to see a 2.3 ecoboost in one lol. But ya for the average guy a turbo on the stock Miata engine will get you a pretty damn fun car lol. Even using a stock Mitsubishi TDO5H. Obviously with a little work and a better turbo power & torque both would go up. But im a Ford man at heart so absolutly no hate here brotha
Twin plug Alfa 147...musical sound and the power of a K24. Perfect.
Guys in Europe are doing jaguar v6’s. Basically a rwd Duratec.
One I saw on RUclips was a ford probe/Mazda v6 with motorcycle ITB’s. That one was cool because he used factory bell housing combinations to pull it off without an adapter.
Are the Jaguar/ Duramax 3.0 v6 motors not available in Canada? It would be sweet to see the Rockatire swap!
Would love to see that too. Think its expensive but interesting.
I think it's a better track car than the v8
They aren't viable cost-wise around here because they're too rare. Around here, an LFX would be a better power plant in that vein because it will deliver similar power for a fraction of the cost.
That would be cool.
The vulcan 3.0?
How could you have left out the 1.8L v6 k8 from the mx3. Perfect engine for the Miata.
Hey guys remember watching your channel back in the supercharged Jackson Racing Scion FRS days. Your vids inspired me and reconfirmed I was doing the right thing with my Supercharged FRS so thank you for all your great and fun videos to watch! R888Rs fantastic tire here in sunny hot Florida. When it rains just stay under the speed limit and it’s all ok lol. Got a Mazda Miata ND Gen. mixing my Miata would only be a last resort in this crazy car world today. Reliability is a good thing. So just curious which build / swap is most proven, max fun factor still and reliable
My plan in to LFX swap my NB next year! If you are still looking to drive one by the time I finish I will drop you a line!
If you're ever in Europe, I've got a K-swapped Miata.... The Mazda K-series V6 - no Honda ;)
WTF how to find K engines in europe ?xd
@@lukaskarpisek9659 Ford and Mazda both released cars with the K-V6s. The 1.8 and 2.0L are less common, but the 2.5L KL is plentiful. Got mine for 1800zł out of a T-boned Ford Probe GT.
There is a whole Facebook group dedicated to K-V6 swaps (mostly Miatas, but people have started putting them in other cars too)
Null Eror Poland is great for getting jdm parts damn
Imma stick w my LS swap y’all can’t change my mind imma need 50 rolls with mustangs
Very awesome and educational for all beginners in engine swapping a miata .. this video it literally help you decide which direction on which engine swap suits you and your Mazda Miata project.. cool video bro 😎 😎👍🏾🇵🇭🇺🇸
J series miata would be dope!! Do a 4g63 miata would be sick! But k swapped is always fun!
I'd rather want to know what's happening with the Celica. I see the fender flares have been removed.
Getting her ready for paint
@@speedacademydave very excited to see what's going on ol' Conny.
Love those celica's! I've had 4 of them. Man I miss that car
What about putting the turbo 4 cylinder from a Mustang or Camaro in the Miata? They're both about 300 HP and can easily hit 400 HP.
Sounds Actually rad
@@driver694 They're both light, well built and can have 400 HP easily as I understand it. I'm a Camaro 6.2L guy.
I am currently fitting a 12V Alfa Romeo V6 into my NA. It's the 2.0 turbo engine from a European market car that I am fitting a supercharger onto.
The k swap seems the best as far as what has been tested. 13b REW would be a great swap and is still a mazda engine. 12 lbs of boost will give you about 300-350rwhp on the oem twins. It is a compact engine so plenty of room to work around. Also it sits further back and lower than all those engines. If money is not an issue a 3 rotor na is a simple engine and would be a blast. You can beat on them and not worry about anything. Considering the miata is used for roadcourses it could really benefit from an engine that sits lower to the ground and closer to the middle of the car.
Rotary is the best swap....compliments the vehicle's chassis with a perfect 50/50 power to weight ratio and building power is easy on 2, 3 or 4 rotor swaps
3 rotor!!!
lol get out the wallet!
Can you street that? Cosmos are older than Miatas. Here the engine has to be newer than the chassis to pass emissions. Custom eccentric shaft three rotor rx8 renisis! Might as well go 4rotor.
Rob stop it...
We know it is you
@@speedacademydave Tavarish got one for cheap!
David Pratte - Not really. Sure, you'll need an adapter plate for the trans, but If you're willing to be patient for the, "right," Cosmo to come up for sale then you shouldn't end up paying more than a K swap (until you need a rebuild*).
*Premix your fuel for a rotary!
Audi 5 cylinder engine just to be different, the sound alone is worth it
Cuz nobody wants to be working on the motor every week lol. Audi’s are junk
a newer vw 2.5 would fit. the old 2.2 5 cylinders are massive.
Id Rather a LLR or L52 then an Audi
@@terrabnadia1793 theyre durable
1.8t 20v would be my dream
Great video, I really like hearing you guys chat about your experiences in cars after the fact - not in the heat of the moment flogging the car around a track
Toms turbo garage ! Great shout out, the guys a beauty for sure. His Miata to his new Tacoma are great to watch.
K swap is the way to go
What bout Car Throttle v6 miata? I would go NA, and what a lovely sound with 6 cilinders... Not K engine not v8.. Just in between
I feel like the j swap and lfx swap are both great v6 options but after some research I found that the j swap is the best option of any swap including the k and ls. It’s cheaper to do in general and it’s extremely reliable. The j swaps can make up to 260whp if you use the type s motor. The kit itself is 3750 which comes with everything you need. The motors themselves are dirt cheap. If you blow up a j motor your looking at 600$ for a replacement and there’s tons of them out there. Dune buggy guys swear by this motor and those things go through hell. If I was going to swap my Miata I’d put a j in there.
Totally agree. Sounds great too (it's no NSX though!)
A friend of mine used to have a 91 with the stock 1.6. Little head work but all in all was basicly stock other then a big 16g TD05H turbo. For a 1.6 with over 200k miles on the clock that thing would RIP! And the handling was amazing. Soon as I went for a ride in it I immediately knew why they are the most tracked car in the world
Great video. Wish you guys would have mentioned that a boosted k series will hold more power on its stock bottom end than you would even get out of a v8 setup.
None of these are the right swap for my Miata, I'm going to swap in the motor from a Harrier Jump Jet 👍
How about the Rolls Royce Merlin engine from a ww2 Mustang plane? They do sound great.
@@jeffruebens8355 that is inspiring genius!!
this.
K series for any car under 2700 lbs is rippin’! My 02 RSX with basic bolt ones and flash tube hit 14 flat in the 1/4.
Dont sleep on the ecotec. That LNF was fun! Previous 09 Cobalt SS owner
I’d like to see a 4.8 Chevy swap with a heavy cam.
Exactly keep the torque down and rev that bitch!!
Not a bad idea
Daniel Stoscup I like that idea better than a LS
preludeF20Bking Apples to apples
@@TheBb6prelude the 4.8 v8 IS a LS, lol
Try a rotrex powered Miata.
What's a good Rotrex kit?
@@Tooshi3Tom Track Dog Racing has the best kit on the market.
I’m surprised that the 2.5 Duratec wasn’t mentioned. It’s an easy swap on NC Miatas and makes tons of torque n/a.
I was looking at that Camaro v6 also. Seemed like a great way to add some power without going too hot and heavy with the LS.
yall ignored the most middle ground option between them all... ROCKETEER V6 SWAP
isnt that thing like 6k alone for the kit - the motor or anything?
@@turnip5465 i think it was 5k all in but not sure
@@bennigek7196 full kit is 6.5k and you need an engine.. turnkey solutions are 12.5k heh
@@turnip5465 oof. Well ill scrap that of my shopping list then. Ill stick to a 1.8L vvt engine from the mk2 miata
@@bennigek7196 honestly if i had the cash to shill i'd go with a ported vvt head SP 2l stroker and something like the GT2860RS.. blazing spool gobs of torque and alot of fun.. it would be like 10k easily tho :/
if you think a miata 6 speed shifts better than a 5 speed, theres something VERY wrong with your 5 speed!
Having driven 6 or more 5 speeds and 2 6 speeds the worst 6 speed felt better to me than the best 5 speed. But the internet disagrees with that so i'm not sure what the truth is.
@@thetuber705 which ones have six speeds?
6spds are wayyyyyy better than the 5spd.
@Oscar Angeles Some NBs had 6speeds from the factory
The Miata 6 speed transmission are normally built stronger then the 5 speed so they’re less likely to break whenever people add turbos and shit so most people who want to heavily mod a Miata use the 6 speeds, I’ve also driven an nb Miata with 6 speed from factory a few times and other then the gears being a bit close it was decent but I also don’t drive manuals too often so whatever.
the ecotec swaps are best bang for your buck but i feel to do one properly it would need to be one of the 2.0L because they can take boost and and can rev to 8k with mods, they are actually a very well designed motor with the piston oil squirters and built in oil cooler, the 2.0 has a forged bottom end and even the sc motor can make 250whp very easily
Thanks for giving some perspective on the various Miata's that you guys have ran around the track.
V6 miatas are amazing
j32/35 your miata!!
I want to build a smaller displacement ls Miata. Higher revving, potentially itb, baby camshaft, so on. Probably 5.3 aluminum block with 4.8 crank. Probably around 300-320 wheel goal. I think it'd be PERFECT but my driving just is not ready. So I'm going to sit back and keep gaining knowledge till that time comes. Our chassis could already support it, just enjoying it simple for the time being.
You had me at 'Miata' and 'Engine Swap'.