Global decline in birth rates: Should we worry? • FRANCE 24 English
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- Опубликовано: 20 янв 2022
- In a special edition, we're focusing on a significant #global trend; the ongoing decline in #birth rates. In 2017, research by the University of Washington found an ongoing decrease in fertility rates globally meant almost every country could have shrinking populations by the end of the century and that 23 nations - including Spain and Japan - could see their #populations halve by the year 2100.
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People are sick of being economic units and slaves for corporate greed.
Yes!!!!!
Big cities are making people sick
Boom you said it we’ve had enough of being things to use
Thank you!
Very true..
Feminism isn’t the reason why people aren’t having kids. They aren’t having kids because having kids is expensive mentally, physically and financially. How can you emotionally and physically care for a child when you’re struggling to do it for yourself?
Body autonomy should never be treated like a problem in these talks. It's disturbing how many people's first reaction is: Well women and AFAB people got to make independent decisions for their bodies and that's what's wrong.
No because of the rise in feminism more women then ever are choosing careers over family
@@jizzlepuff4497 And? Women finally demanding human rights is a problem?
Is that why birth rates were fine for all of humanity until the feminist revolt 60 years ago?
The needs of a child are unpredictable and often inconvenient. The only fair division of parental responsibility is for both parents to absorb the same amount of the inconvenience and for both parents to have the same opportunity to acquire skills and experience that are of monetary value. But then neither parent would have a career.
In order to have children, women have to know that, if they invest in their partner's career at the expense of their own, they won't be forced into single parenthood or abandoned when the task of child raising is complete.
Unless living standard improves do not expect higher fertility.
@@frankieboyseje Ok boomer
We have a far higher living standard than my parents had, yet they had 4 children. And only 8 grandchildren.
@@chriswatson1698 I think what louie is talking about is economic standards. People aren't in a position to support themselves let alone others.
@@NameMcNamename Excuses to avoid responsibility and parenthood. Every single one of my friends who've had children, do just fine. They work, their families supports them, the government gives support. Yet still, people keep making the same excuses how they wouldn't afford to have children and the birthrates are abysmal. Selfishness, learned helplessness, and nihilism has been instilled to our people so they will kill themselves into extinction.
@@goldbullet50
There is nothing selfish about not having children.
We? Who's we? Wealthy people who won't have enough work force to exploit? 🤣
That is true. Lower birthrate ain't our problem.
Exactly...they want to have people available to be disposed of ....low population means not being able to exploit the rat race
Well it is our problem, cause when we get old, there will be no one to care for us.
👏👏👏👏
Absolutely spot on!!
Main problem is inflation and rising education costs for kids
inflation and the quality of clothes food everything in quality have gone down even our standerd of living
And you are just grasping the surface of the problem, the socio economic issues it will create, will become much harder or not possible at all to pay pensions, counties won't have money to sustain health care, education system, housing will become out of reach to most ppl. It will be devastating to the economy.
It will become much harder for those who want to have kids
as things get worse my only solace is that i didnt bring another poor soul into this world to suffer
People's living standards has been going down in the past 40 years. Millennials would like to have kids but the older generations made it so hard to raise a family with so many headwinds like housing cost, student loans, a messed up dating environment where the rules of engagement is murky.
Don't blame older generation. In the future they will also. In the past they didn't have to pay insurance for cars, houses, no cellphone, no internet, not air conditioning, not traveling abroad, no Netflix, no computers. In the past not so many taxes, not a lot of foreigners competing with your job, not Feminists, BLM and lgtb or drug addicts living from your taxes.
Exactly, well said.
@@eduardosotelo4663 And half of those new costs are because of Baby-boomer policies, so yes, blame the boomers.
Exactly
@@eduardosotelo4663 How are BLM and lgbt living from your taxes? lmao
This professor is out of touch with the hardships young people face. In fact this attempt by mainstream media just shows how it fails to speak for youth.
Youth is wasted on the young.
@@BoyBombay In riches man (Boomer) lacks wisdom.
You didn’t point out any one specific thing you disagree with.
No i think its a narrative - the women are bad narrative
I was actually surprised to learn how many other people of my generation have decided to be childless! Honestly, the 2008 recession, which didn’t affect me or any members of my family was demoralizing as hell, and economics is only part of the reason. I can’t help but ask “Where is the economic opportunity for kids of mine, if I were to have them?” and the answer is that there is no real economic opportunity for my kids if I were to have them, and with housing already unaffordable for so many, what will affordability be for generation of my kids?
They just want more future kids to scam and work to death for the cycle to continue!
Going in the country and living affordably.
Between the risk of shootings and issues like housing shortages, low wages, rising prices and pollution, plus PFAS in everything everywhere I figure it's a dumb idea to have kids at this point.
For me, the reason why i don't want kids is due to what i experienced as a child. Plus I don't think i have the patience and don't want to be tied down
@@LSSYLondon Same
Times have changed for some , rather not have children .. because it's getting to expensive etc .. and the way this planet is heading , would u want your child in it ..
The world is getting more complicated and will get worse such as climate change, destruction of wildlife & the environment, social problems, economic problems. I will never want to bring a child to live in this world because I don’t want my children to suffer in the future. I am happy to die without the need to worry about my children & grand children.
Come on - harder than the Middle Ages or basically any time in the past.
@@Stephen2142 It's not, but you're an idiot!
@@Stephen2142 you are talking a shitload of crap as they said that climate change is not a problem anymore.
@@Stephen2142 Same here man. I came into this world alone and will die alone.
I'm 43 years old, never married, no children. I get to save all of my money, focus on myself. I don't want to be a parent.
your going extinct you will not pass on your DNA
NICE..
How many bastards do you have?
I bet your cats love it!!
Idk, your username seems like a lot of cope.
No child no sufferings.
Considering the worsening state of this planet, I welcome this. We need to thin the herd a little
Covid isn't effective enough.
Tell that to the Africans.
@@biznaguinh4to anyone outside Europe and Northeast Asia tbh
Ummm it’s too expensive to have kids. In America there aren’t enough transportation options other than having a car to get a child around in. I ride a bike full time because it’s better for the environment but I can’t imagine strapping a child that I’ve birthed out of my body to the back of my bike in the city I live in. I’d be a nervous wreck. It’s a little ass human that would be a part of me, that I would have to protect and there’s just too much to have to protect them from these days so why birth a child at all…. Maybe if we had more rail lines it’d be easier. Childcare is expensive. Healthcare is expensive. Getting married is expensive. Raising a child by yourself is expensive. Getting divorced is expensive. Being black is expensive. Groceries are expensive. Everything costs too much frickin money and to add a child to the mix would be foolish in such an unstable economy… especially one where you feel like you live in a country that doesn’t give a hot 💩 about you - unless you’re rich. Furthermore, as a black woman it’s a known fact that we have high mortality rates because of the lack of care and treatment. No thanks.
Really? No buses and no Uber?
Also not sure why you assume you have to do it all by yourself? Gotta pick a partner that stays with you throughout, you know.
@@lucasdarianschwendlervieir3714 ps. I ride a bike full time for a reason - it’s very intentional and I’d rather not participate in vehicle culture and being a part of junking up the atmosphere with toxic emissions. 🤙🏾
@@-Bloomingtales So let me get this clear... Your requirement is that your child cannot be transported in a vehicle (presumably that includes getting home from hospital?). And because that requirement cannot be met in reality that's one reason not to have one for you. Okay, you do you.
Yeah they want y’all to die lol. Africa also have high mortality but they are growing like rapidly
Poor people in africa still have kids. How do you explai that?
After losing everything in 2020 I can honestly say that I would have preferred to be among the lucky ones not being born in this world. I am glad the birth rate is lower.
Same here and it sucks .
Same I lost my job in 2021. I don't want kids but if I hypothetically had a kid I'd be major screwed. Never got my career off the ground but me being out of the workforce means I am one less "employee" providing goods and services(dealing with karens)... in a world where there's less teachers and healthcare workers.
@@zensoundsarah9209 Having kids is the most selfish thing anyone can do.
@@ageis3250 I think killing someone for the cash and electronics they have on them is more selfish. Quit being so dramatic.
Nice try bill gates,, with your bot accounts.
40 and childless and I do not regret my decision at all. 👍
I wonder how you'll feel on your deathbed. When you look around and see that you're surrounded by nothing but strangers, and then you die alone having left no meaningful legacy behind. Doesn't sound like much fun.
@@ChiGyu620
I HATE YOU.
@@ChiGyu620 you're weird
@@ChiGyu620 family doesnt always mean you have to be blood related, there are many people like friendsand and coworkers, then there are siblings who would feel sorrow for your death
a child isnt the only one who would visit you, well as long you dont abuse them
@@ChiGyu620 you can leave a legacy without having children. If you were kind to others, contributed to society, and found purpose - you did your part.
Everyone dies alone - technically.
A shrinking population is a very good thing for the whole world.
Yep
Agree
How?
It wouldn’t 🤦♂️
@@fuzzley911
It would not what? Explain.
Why is this bad since People live longer and work longer and more importantly since robots are to take jobs away
Sounds more like fear in tax revenue decrease
That and lowered consumption since at least most western nations and far east Asian nation's base their entire economic model on consumption.
@@enhancedutility266 Sounds like Fear of less revenue for wars
@@jamesmurphy9426 not really they can issue war bonds or money printing but by that time a civil war or a revolution might start
@@enhancedutility266 The future belongs to young people, not old ghosts who forget where they put their fork or are closer to their death bed! Not that I hate old people, but even they would agree with me! How do you expect an 80 year old to keep a strict journal or to maintain technology and improve it? You people are all beyond me! The old folks have enough problems of their own and cannot think of the problems of society!
@@enhancedutility266 Printing money sure worked well for the Zimbabwe dollar, Hungarian Pengo, and Weimar Mark.
A child is extremely dependent. And each child is actually two dependents: the child itself and an adult to supervise him. In the 1960s the dependency ratio was high. Then women stopped having children and became taxpayers themselves, which created an unnaturally high ratio of taxpayers to dependents. There were fewer children, yet the workers weren't yet retiring. The ageing population is restoring a more natural balance.
You call poverty "natural"?
@@theresedavis2526 No, I call it unnatural to have so many more worker/taxpayers than there are dependents.
Why we should worry? We should have celebrate the declining birth rate. Less human means more resources can be preserved. The price of houses would go down and wage would increase steadily as talented and experienced workers become more scarce.
Not really how the world economy works
Capitalism is based on infinite growth and ever increasing consumption if that slows down so will the economy and it’s just and ever looping circle
You dont get it. Try once more
No not really, this can lead to a catastrophic population decline. You don’t want a population crash
Exactly, the only ones worried about the declining population are religious fanatics and oligarchs.
8 billion people on Earth is too many, anyways.
yeah
It's better to consider all the risks than to bring a child in the world that you aren't ready to raise.
“A success for feminism is not being a mother”? That seems pretty silly. A success for feminism should be the freedom to pick a path that you think is best given your individual priorities and circumstances. If feminism success is ending motherhood, then that’s going to be an interesting success.
You're right man. We're going in the wrong direction
People forget that maternity and paternity leaves are topics of discussion within feminist movements, "it takes a village to raise a child", motherhood should be a choice not a obligation and this kind of thing.
The thing is, who within 20-40 years old is able to support a child and household for at least 18 years?
@@yesthatsmycat9919 it is a choice, you just make it when you choose to have unprotected sex.
@@trusterzero6399 Then stop trying to dictate how women manage their lives and their health. Stop oppressing them. Stop denying them healthcare (US). Stop suppressing them in the workplace. Start taking responsibility as fathers and partners!
@@trusterzero6399 You know it takes a female AND a male to have sex. Take responsibility for your contribution!
Global decline in birth rates: Should we worry? The answer is no. This is a very good thing for the whole planet.
exactly there was only 2 billion people at the beginning of the 1900s
We are not overpopulated 🤦♂️
@@fuzzley911
Unfortunately, we are.
@@fuzzley911we are PAWPYUHLATIDD
What future exists for kids, none, high tax rates, lack of jobs, high house prices, high education, lack of good matches, stress impacts on fertility....
Mother nature will thank us if we minimize procreating.
Did Mother Nature not put us in the position we are in?
Nope we did these to ourselves
We were supposed to take care of her not abuse her and now she’s just pissed.
Nope mother nature is laughing at us right now.
I'm not worried because, seriously, who'd want to marry and have kids in this hostile climate? No one, that's who.
Muslims, south east Asians, slavik Europeans everyone who knows how the system works.
Generally we (as in masses) blame the high populations for the bad economy that many countries face. Yet I'm really wondering, given the disturbing imbalanced wealth distribution where there is a huge gap between the rich and the poor, is the population really the reason?
I'd be happy if some research institute try to simulate our world model with current population growth, but without many of the developed nations exploiting the resources of the poor ones
Overpopulation is killing our planet. Staying childfree is the best thing a woman can do for the environment.
that would be a simulation i'd like to see!
Women are finally taking ownership of their bodies 😊 love that about this generation
The Dating scène is definitely a contributing factor. Nobody really cares for a family anymore. It’s just how to make money to keep up with the increasing expensive lifestyles
totally agree everybody now think about money
People got sick of the greed of corporations. They've had enough. Capitalists will realize later on, maybe 50 years from now, that they are digging their own graves.
It is disturbing how many people think body autonomy is the problem and stripping women and AFAB people of the right to make decisions for their body is the answer.
Good news no need to worry
More jobs, better pay, less competition, reducing needs for resources, the global population actually needs to shrink.
More tax, longer working life, lower pension, less healthcare, more loneliness.
@@bannerlad01 it wont hurt to have smaller population, so dont freak out about it
Birth rate going down is always a good thing for humanity, always.
Yeah but a decline usually leads to a increase that's how it usually goes or if standards continue to decline that could lead to a absolute collapse of a population.
🤦♂️
africa is the future
India too
So...there's no future lol
@@derek4412 You mean Neo-China?
Yes indeed. The MELANATED population of humanity. Go India and Africa!
Keep reading y'all the African infant mortality rate is sky high. Their number just stabilize just like the African American population. As soon as five babies are born about three die
What’s the point when your spawn is just gonna suffer and work to the point that it’s not even worth it anymore :0
Since WWII, the earth's human population has tripled and our earth is not coping with human consumption and waste. Capitalism requires that there be a constant increase of consumers and a faster and faster gobbling of our earth's finite resources.
Exactly thats why the government wants more people because they see more consumers and producers
Earth resources are enough for even 30 billion poppulation if there is no greed
@@UraniumStorm More consumers and more people competing for the opportunity to earn a living: keeps wages down and profits up.
With declining birth rates, you end up with more older people and fewer working people. School and child care costs might decline due to fewer children. But aged care costs will increase on a per-working-person basis. For example, if couples have one child, at some point, one couple might have to support four parents and a child. At best, 2 incomes to support 7 people.
But the feminist won!
@@trusterzero6399 What's that have to do with anything?
In the 1960s, it was commonplace for families to have three or more children and for the mother to stay at home and provide domestic services. So the ratio was one income to support four, five or more people, and that doesn't include their parents. In my family my father supported 6 people and three of us went on to tertiary education. My husband only supported 4, not counting our parents who provided for themselves.
So 2 people supporting 7 is a ratio of 1:3.5, which seems mightily generous to me.
@@trusterzero6399 and misogynists lost
So what? Shrinking workforce means higher wages. And childfree people are more productive.
Less people, less pollution, better for this planet
Hehe, lets start with you! Pick a place you wanna go to, Mars or the Moon?
@Arvin ant was I talking about economy?
Btw, infinite growth (population, economy) is not possible on a finite planet!
Less friends, less love, less ingenuity, less purpose. What do you think it is all for?
Come on simple Martin, you can do better than that x
@@bannerlad01 dude there wouldnt be a purpose anyway if you kill the planet, a small discomfort for earth's well being is worth it
The root cause of declining fertility. It is due to the rapid increase in social demand caused by social and economic development that people's income cannot catch up with consumer demand. Under this social situation, people will inevitably be exhausted on the one hand. On the other hand, the internal stratification of society is becoming more and more obvious
Anyone can conceive a child. Not everyone can raise a child though. I have never wanted children. I love kids but I don’t want to raise one. How would I even know that the child would be happy to have me as a parent? Better for me & better for the planet 🌏
Hi Willia, very interested in your 'How would I even know that the child would be happy to have me as a parent'.
I am very old and I use to know a tribe of people known as the Victorians, but they have all passed on now.
They were people of their time as you are a person of your time and a major difference can be found in this statement.
Yours has eliments of self doubt and a strong recognition of the rights of that child. It suggests a realism of how things can go south very easily in this modern world and that each person is pretty much on their own to deal with it. A key component of survival in these modern times is to be lean and manoeuvrable and to limit the things that can drive you under.
Not so the Victorians, they were right and anything that they said was not open to debate. They had unwavering confidence in G-D and his reasons for putting them on this Earth to do his will.
Children were to be seen but not heard as the saying would go, yes they could play but they had their tasks to contribute to the family.
This is not to criticise what you have said but for me to celebrate having seen both sides.
I wish you well.
Thank God the birth rate is dropping! Overpopulation I too much of a problem
I don't even feel like my career is fully established, but if thing go well, it will be within the year. I'm 36. I did just buy my first house, and now I'm pregnant. It's a lot to do on a limited time. But I didn't want to try to have a child until I had all those bases covered.
What’s your salary?
Yall didnt value motherhood well this is your reward
When the scam of child support ends,we won't have this problem anymore. I don't blame men for not wanting kids or marriage the system is not fair for men in a divorce
Should the government have the legal right to force people to use their bodies against their will to save the life of another person? Even at risk Of death, quality of life, physical damage to self, and financial ruin? Body autonomy is important. We even award it to our dead.
Tell that to the Republicans that are trying to ban birth control.
Yes. It’s called good sanitarian laws
Given how many places in the world are overcrowded as it is, how even Indonesia is running out of coal, and how china is hoarding food etc. I am sure a population decline would not hurt. In fact, I had big hope on covid to do it, which it failed at.
Same here! COVID has been a huge let down-but there’s still time, and since the world is overcrowded, more pandemics will keep on coming.
if the population decline the company will also lost its worker
I don't think that's the takeaway.
Y’all are some messed up people
@@Plutoisaplanet33 We are the product of our environment.
No, we should draw a sigh of relief.
our kids don't want to see this cruel world. save kid
Economic growth is ruining our Earth.
No worries! Robots are coming :)
Not soon enough
Row-boat
@@sasha69Xurgelashsoon bad news
What is the benifit of having children?
I wonder if there is any !!!
Same thoughts about getting married !!!
Essential for net zero targets
Oh genius how you gonna fix climate change if there's no youth nor people lmao
@@TheMagicJIZZ over carrying capacity...replacement rates...global south problem...tities
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@@bannerlad01 to net zero and beyond🍌🍌🍌
We are 8 billions and counting. How is this a global decline?
Because if you want to sustain the western wealth the west needs to have kids!
We worry about declining birth rates when the geniuses do the declining, and the Idiocracy doesn't.
Also, don't go for open borders just because your birth rate is low. Too many countries just assume they will get all net taxpayers and never get criminals.
I find it funny to see Japan and South Korea not going for open borders to make up for population decline and aging.
Declining birth rates also suggest that many countries are no longer rural and agricultural and now urban and industrialized. That makes children go from economic asset to economic liability. Children become an expensive hobby, and many just don't see that as the hobby for them to take up. That even assumes those people can afford the hobby.
Besides, what are these children going to end up doing in the future? Don't you know that military commanders need more cannon fodder, CEOs need more wage slaves, politicians need more future voters, and holy men need more choir boys? It's outrageous that these selfish millennials won't give those people what they desperately need.
The economy, feminism and cultural dating/marriage dynamics are the primary factors..and each variable effects the other.
Aswell as unfavorable laws.
She’s a liar. I’d like to see one woman tell her doctor she wants to be sterilized if she doesn’t already have kids. Pretty sad that much of society still pressures women with the “you’ll change your mind,” and all that crap.
I am a dude and my stepmother and a friend told me something similar. Sorry, still not happenin'
While the intersection of banning abortion and capitalism is not well known, this knowledge is essential when advocating for reproductive rights as well as against all forms of the patriarchal order. In our capitalist economy, the abortion ban is not just a difference of opinion - the overturning of Roe v Wade is just one of many moves in the capitalist agenda playbook to accumulate labourers.
For capitalism to “thrive” it requires the emphasis of a two-gendered hierarchy, a gendered division of labor, along with forcing the birthing body into the service of capitalism. Furthermore, it characterizes “feminine” work as unproductive and valueless to avoid acknowledgement or compensation as it would threaten its system of profit, hierarchy and domination.
This overturning is a tool of oppression used to breed a vulnerable and suppressed population who are then pushed into the role as a wage laborer. Creating barriers to families and single parents who are pregnant and unable to access an abortion when needed not only possibly creates financial instability but can also create time poverty, especially for the mother. This ultimately reduces social mobility, where access to education and employment becomes harder to obtain due to a lack of money and time, on top of lost potential earnings.
Moreover, in our current society, the race for profits, efficiency and endless growth ignores unpaid labor and focuses on GDP and other economic measures of growth and productivity; while ignoring the fact that household production is one of, if not the largest and most productive sector in the world. And while the caregiving and domestic work many provide in the home today is still devalued, domestic and caregiving work outside the home in care sectors such as nursing, teaching, and child care, is also devalued, and that devaluation is extended to the men who also participate in these roles. Especially compared to sectors built on competition such as industry, politics and business.
In an alternative world caregiving and domestic labor and other types of productive roles, which produce and sustain the current and future generations, would be valued, recognized and supported by the government and society. Instead, we are still dealing with the tools of punishment and domination - cornerstones of the capitalist patriarchy. In reality, humans did not evolve because of competition, they evolved because of altruism and reciprocity.
In addition to the overturning of Roe v Wade, on this same day it has also been announced that the U.S. may overturn Griswold v. Connecticut (right for married couples to buy and use contraceptives / 1965), Lawrence v. Texas (right of same sex adults to engage in mutually consenting intimacy / 2003), and Obergefell v Hodges (right for same-sex couples to be married / 2015). While this is extremely concerning it is unfortunately not unexpected.
The main agenda being pumped out by the supreme court revolves around productivity. And no, not just the productivity of our labor, but of being “reproductively productive”. It seems that those in favour of overturning these rulings see same sex intimacy and sex with any form of contraceptive as unproductive to their efforts of accumulating labourers.
With all of this in mind, I firmly believe the ban on abortion is a poor and uninformed way to accumulate labor. While the reality is sadly that abortions will still occur, now just in unsafe conditions.
Of course not. We have about 7 billion.
7.9 billion and next year it will be 8 billion
There are more human beings right now on earth than any time in the history of this planet.
hopefully we drop to 4 billion or something
@@nailanoorein2086 exactly but its just temporary
This presenter seems so intent on shifting focus (blame?) to feminism and women. So strange. It’s a combination of BOTH sexes making that decision plus also just how challenging living a life right now is just for many young people around the world.
It’s hard enough to look after ourselves, most of us are just getting by while paying back debts. Hard to imagine bringing in and supporting a little life when all energy is going towards pushing hard in career, living costs, debt payments, anddd one topic not brought up here is just how many people are also single. It’s really really hard to find a partner right now too 😪
I believe most people aged 25 - 40 still wants to have kids it's just the main problem is the rising cost of living.
#childfree
Yes carol you dont need children
@@annawild7117 there's many disgusting and selfish parents out there? why is it the childfree people are always the bad ones? It kind of sounds like you're running your mouth because you're bitter hateful person
@@no-ci9rp You didn’t get her comment
@@euniceaddo1160 duh, even i am having hard time to decipher that sentence
@@euniceaddo1160 no one said I did,. The population declining has a root cuase that isn't right
Christine Percheski forgot to mention we live in such a stage of capitalism where we can't afford a house, where we go from one precarious job to another, where inequality grows bigger by the day. Sure, some government policies could help mitigate the situation, but that's about it, that's a problem with the system we live in, and that very system in gonna collapse in on itself sooner or later, regardless of any individual change of mindset.
Of course we shouldn't.......overpopulation drives the majority of the world's problems x
When not a lot of people then foreigners, Muslims, lgtb come and change everything.
@@eduardosotelo4663 not really worried about lgbt people brother x
@@mattm3400 Arabs to the save oh we coming to save you
@@johnclayton4946 that makes little to no sense x
@@mattm3400 Doesn't have to make sense!
There's enough people already on the planet destroying the environment already don't you think? Why so much concern?
Really? Are you serious. So you think more old people than young people is better?
@@bannerlad01
Humans are KILLING THE PLANET. It is best for mother earth that there are fewer of us.
@@bannerlad01 yes? is that want you want hear? YES! LESS PEOPLE!
@@bannerlad01 Old people die sooner and all people are scum, so yeah.
All the people saying standards of living need to increase are not noticing that the undeveloped world is still growing. Its a problem that stems from an inability to adapt to serious issues. My family bought a home in a dying city and are working on both the house and the city...both are healing. How is it that we both makeless than half than our siblings, yet we have our own place? God for one thing. Creative thinking for another..
to people who struggle with infertility, i would look at EMF exposure whether its high, eating enough quality animal products, eating enough carbs especially from fruit is good, lowering stress levels with breath observation, cutting out toxic food additives and preservatives, spending time in nature. and healthy community/friend relations where you feel like you can openly share feelings is really important. in this modern world a lot of us have left behind the human aspect which we really need to respect to have good health
Funny that in average vegan women are healthier. Animal products are poisoned with antibiotics and steroids.
Epoch Times Feb 22, 2023 "Global sperm counts declining"
Good for earth. Okay, let me rephrase that. Wonderful for earth.
It's controversial but I believe in antinatalism. For those who don't know what that is, it just means we think it's unfair to bring kids into this world due to a multitude of reasons. For one, we never know how our children will fair in this life. We also don't know if they even wan to be here in the first place. We're essentially forcing our kids in a life that they never asked for. We have no idea if they'd want it. Another thing is, even if we have good genes and make a decent income, it's never guaranteed that our offspring will be healthy when their born. I have neighbors who are perfectly healthy and own their own home but both of their kids ended up severely disabled. Ones in a wheelchair most of the time and can't communicate properly. The other one has learning disabilities that keep him from living on his own and having a normal life.
Also, my father was a computer programmer and is now turning 78 in April while battling end stage prostate cancer and obvious serious parkinsons. He has many teeth missing, can't remember much, his eyesight is worse than it use to be, and can barely stand and walk. He's mostly bedridden and usually in his room (his choice.) He has help exercising every other day it seems, and he needs assistance to use his bedpan. He's a shell of his former life and it's like living in the twilight zone.
Just sad and horrifying. I, myself have end stage cancer and a rare genetic disorder that's caused a lot of problems in my life. When I was younger, I was able to get pregnant on many occasions but I knew it was wrong since I had a disorder to pass on. Plus it's scary to think, if I ignored that thought, this kid could have gotten it and/or my dads parkinsons. If anyones interested, I'd suggest the book Better Never to Have Been by David Benatar
Agree.
So wrong so sad don't worry someone else will pick the slack.
Global decline?
*Afrika had entered the chat*
Most of Africa will be peaking and then declining in about 40-80 years :)
@@thelourensfamily8048 We don't know that. Demographers have had to adjust their population projections for Africa upwards several times already. As their birthrates have been stubbornly slow to decline. We should really stop sending them food.
@@ChiGyu620 You're right, partly. Southern and northern Africa (except Egypt) are close to stabilizing but have the smallest populations. East, west and central are declining slow with some large countries like the DRC and Nigeria, declining much slower....
@@ChiGyu620 AFRICA IS THE FUTURE. Earth has reclaimed her time.
Mother nature is one shady 🌳tree 😆 | the fact they are also spared covid 💤💅🏾
We should be worried about climate change and its immediate consequences ;-)
Lower birth rates are just as big of a problem
Let’s keep it going ladies
yessssssss
You know this is not good. This is like thinking it’s good to be underweight
No, we should not worry.
Why not?
So, good news across the board! What economic uncertainty can't fix, infertility will.
We are witnessing human species hitting the carrying capacity of the planet.
I don't know why you think women are protesting a career over a family. No! We want to be fincally stable without being a gold digger
Throw away convenience world,including babies.
Having kids is one option. Not all of them. Having children is also dangerous
Giving birth kinda hurts but in the future, there will be artificial births!
Less people is better for individual and the planet
The last thing this earth needs is more humans. Can't you see how bad we are for the environment!
You don't really care about the earth just stop.
@@derek4412 Your either a kid or a really dumb adult
Well I’m sure you can find a high place to jump off of. Me, I like people
find the nearest gun store, aim it at your head,less people the better right?
@@bannerlad01 you like people hey? Go live in the projects in America. Go live in south Africa, Brazil, Afghanistan. Then go and tell me how much you love people
No, this world cannot sustain the comfort of 8 billion humans. The misery of most, yes. But not the comfort. We should worry about the misery. Maybe even start doing that. Instead of reserving the exclusivity of comfort even after our sorry pretense of being human. We should worry about birth rates not declining enough. Furthermore ... the calmth during the COVID-lockdown really was ... nice: no cars, blue sky all around, bird song and rustling leaves.
Exactly..they are only analysis the economic growth of a country which just means they are just running out of rats to dispose of for cheap labour.. countries individually does not see the effect on earth's environment
U should be worry .
Elon musk main wory is declining birth rate
Who will do the cleaning of the streets and also doing the dirty works and farming?
You mean Bill Gates and Corona
Robots.
Farming is heavily mechanized, most plantations are just operated by a few people.
Muslims
unemployed will
I feel like I'm surrounded by infertile couples. Maybe 1 in 4 is a very low estimate. Today there are amazing miracle medicines, very healthy self-love, fantastic microplastic and many other factors which unfortunately may lead to total self annihilation as a population.
Are those are the only reasons you could come up with?
They're infertile because they're trying to have babies later. Some people can still make babies at 40, some can't.
People became corporate slave and stress lead to human collapse.
So people are supposed to have kids in order to pay for social programs. LOL OK
If no social programs, then you must have kids to take care of you when you get old. Or will you expect other people's kids to take care of you? Who will staff the nursing homes or restaurants?
Can I ask the professor, who do you think will pay for all this support you are advocating for? You are suggesting that government can just magic up wealth with no young people to pay for all this? What do you think will happen to the value of assets? I don’t want to be mean but come on, this has the intellectual rigour of a high school essay.
Dam, youre like the only critical thinker in the comment section.
@@hollywoodk9798
He's not a critical thinker. He's ignoring the extremely serious environmental impacts of humans.
@@anticorncob6 what? How did you get that from what I said?
Are humans somehow separate to the environment? If we decline is that not also the environment declining?
@@bannerlad01 any species is harmful if it grows too much, it throws off the balance of the ecosystem. That’s what we did. We cheated natural death through science and technology, and we gave grown past the natural limits. Now we need to shrink for balance to be restored.
@@anticorncob6 That is totally irrelevant you moron.
Having a family and being able to support them is a blessing, but it isn't for everyone, for multiple reasons. I do think we need to take the balance of birth/death rates very seriously when talking about long-term population rates.
This is something good. Why don’t you talking about machine will replace millions of people’s job ?
This is a big deal, and shouldn't happen
No
If we can successfully develop robots to handle more and more work, we will need fewer people to contribute. As science continues to advance longevity, people will be able to contribute more years to working. Human civilization has continued to evolve. There is always fear of change, but we somehow get through it. As a woman, life is much better today than before birth control.
Whatever the reason,, its a good news, mother earth will be human free in near future. Earth will get second chance to flourish geographically..
You took the words right out of my mouth and I hope all slaves like us,catch on. Let them rule over the rocks and dirt
It's the pinks so we are good
I feel like the “experts” are crisscrossing a multitude of correlations here. In my honest opinion, whatever the cause and effects are going on currently, I think people having less children is a good thing. I am also pregnant with my first child, so I don’t hold with the ideas that I’ve read in many of the comments that it seems to be the “duty” of our generation to not have children simply because these are difficult or uncertain times. However, I honor everyone’s choice in the matter. If someone truly does/doesn’t want children, it is nobody’s business but theirs as to why. I live in a country who is currently doing its best to take away the rights of people who find themselves with an unwanted pregnancy. I believe it’s the unfounded fear of those with money and power not having enough human chattel that is spurring that decision. Bringing life into this world is not to be taken lightly, and it is a decision that should be left up to each individual. No government should be allowed to press their citizens to choose one way or the other.
If we don't stand up, it will get worse!!
why have more consumer slaves
We should probably worry, but it must be music to the ears of the rest of creation.
I am very fascinated to see how this plays out. Pretty much all our models from my understanding are meant for constant and steady ish growth. Obviously this isn't sustainable. But if we don't have that what else do we have? I can imagine a world where everything is falling apart because there isn't enough cash for maintaining everything.
Government services could dry up a lot. Lots of governments will cater towards the old. So little progression.
I guess a positive would be less workers mean you have to pay employees more. Less people will leave tons of cheaper housing. Companies will probably have to change and compete a lot with smaller profits.
But mostly I think it's going to be negatives all around.
We have lost our connection to nature.