Just one correction here about Aguilar Tone Hammer. In this video you first enable right knob which is AGS and later left which is Engage, but AGS isn't working without enabling first left knob, so in this video we can't hear just preamp sound without AGS ...
Playing Sweet Child O' Mine through the Corona made sense. It's what Duff uses, and he has a downloadable toneprint in their library. I have that pedal, and that toneprint is usually loaded into it, all knobs at 12 o'clock.
The Big Muff Deluxe Big Muff Pi is the one I keep coming back to. It has a secret weapon in the crossover feature. The high and low pass filters are great for dialing things in depending upon the room. The EQD "Plumes" is pretty badass on bass as well. And on the envelope filter tip, the Mr. Black "Fwonkbeta" is an absolute beast!
A bit late to the party but the Big Muff is a nifty little pedal. It has a three-way switch on it ,"Bass Boost", "Normal" and "Dry" plus "Volume" "Tone" and "Sustain" knobs. On either Bass Boost or Normal the Volume knob is, well, a volume knob. But on Dry the Volume knob turns into Blend so it blends the fuzz with your clean signal. That works wonderfully for making your sound dirtier without worrying about level and it keeps better low end in my opinion.
Yeah hes crazy awesome. When I made a purchase from sweetwater he called me when it arrived to see if it wereto my liking. I call him for buying advice and gear info for every purchase I make now. Just call over and ask for him!
The SansAmp Bass Driver can also get you a pretty good distortion/OD if you crank the gain. Granted, it's not separate from the rest of the pedal. I've used it as such though, and if you don't need it as an actual preamp, it does a really nice job. Both of mine are older models from around 2001 without those extra switches, so YMMV.
I purchased the Julia after hearing it in this video. As soon as I heard it all I could think is "THAT'S the sound I'm looking for!" Thank you for this video!
@4:54 your reactionary smile is almost enough by itself to make a sale! Hey, Kevin likes it! 😃 I love Sweetwater, all of its employees, and the sales engineers; especially Simon Whitehouse! *_Anything Sweetwater is awesome!_*
I love that this videos are getting more in depth little by little but don’t hold on it guys we want you to throw this info at us like an avalanche we’re ready for it 😊
I admit I don't see the need for a preamp. You've got plenty of EQ options on your bass and amp. And as for a DI box, audio interfaces pretty much replace those for home recording. And live, any venue with front of house support is also going to have their DI boxes. I think a compressor is more useful. And maybe a high pass filter to cut the mud out of the bottom of your tone.
I beg to differ. You can't always count on venues to have good quality DI boxes. If you care about your tone, a good DI box is a sound investment. Also, you always know what you're getting as far as what the FOH guy is gonna get. As far as studio use goes, DI's allow you to split your signal, which is crucial when recording guitars through an amp (having both an amped track and a dry track in case something goes wrong and you need to re-amp). I haven't seen that feature on many audio interfaces other than the Apogee Ensemble, and that's a 2000$ piece of gear.
Most venues can afford a Sansamp at a minimum. There's nothing wrong with that as a DI. But they probably have something far better than that (i.e. - something better than the average person can afford). They've already shelled out the money for a mixing board and PA, after all. And the front of house guy may not be world class, but he probably knows what he's doing better than you do. Buy one if you want. I've just never had a need for one.
I play classic rock, blues, R&B, and country in local venues (bars, clubs, parties) and THE most essential pedal for me is a parametric EQ. Some rooms have bad resonances at certain frequencies and this allows me to dial out the worst offender.
I had the 1st version of that Sansamp. Perfect stuff. Carry it with me for any gigs and studio works. Dont even need a rack. But still its depends on ur preference kinda tone you want.
I paired down my bass pedalboard as I got tired of dragging a heavy road case that was killing my back. I now only have an mxr bass compressor, a boss tu2 tuner I've had for years, a sansamp 3, and an mxr bass envelope filter. My board now fits in a small commercial document case I bought at home depot. I ditched my dunlop bass wah, and my bass big muff as I just never use them in my band setting. I do still use them at home though.
Nice video. I wish I had seen it 20 years ago. I would have saved a few dollars. I saw the comment on bass compression pedals. Good idea, but that should be its own video. So much to cover. Some pedals have 1 knob, while others have everything you would find in a studio rack mount.
I think I have 3 in my chain that do compression. Preamp stage.. Post fuzz and distortion.. And one of my amps which I often use 2 ABY. Never find the right attack with just one.
Chorus, Envelope, octaver I have and billy sheehan's overdrive pedal (third gen) for the over the top drive (all EBS pedals). I use the built in drive/od/fuzz in the Bergantino Forte HD for the rest. Just sounds so much better than the pedals drive/od/fuzz pedals to me. Bergantino allows you to download the drive/od/fuzz compination you want and you can have 2 settings at the same time. Plus you get a very clear tone transparent tone that can be shaped extensively with the eq options. Turn on the internal drive at 0 or just above and it behaves/sounds like a tube amp. Plus I don't have to have a crazy pedal board. At 1200 class d watt it can hold its own too... Easily one of the best bass amps and cabs out there. Too bad that Sweetwater doesn't carry them (and TrickFish) :(.
I wish you would have covered compression pedals. I play two basses. A Fender Jazz that’s passive and a Tobias that is active. The Tobias has a much hotter output. I need to balayage levels that I’m sending to the board
Good video but bit but I’m anxiously awaiting the follow up. I’ve basically got your setup that you were demonstrating. Pedal order and placement. Meaning where do you sergers placing the Darkglass preamp on an amp. In front? In the effects loop? I know timebased effects such as the chorus would prob be best in the loop but what about the preamp?
Hello, Mark! Most commonly, preamp pedals are run either at the very beginning of your pedalboard signal chain or at the very end of the pedalboard, right before the input of the amp. The effects loop is best left for time-based effects, or other processing. It's relatively popular to run a DBX 160a compressor in the effects loop of a bass amp, for instance. I'll be expanding on this video sometime soon. The next thing I shoot will be about perfecting pedalboard tone, pedal order, buffers, DI's, compressor pedals, using multiple pedals together in certain orders to get desired sounds, etc. Stay tuned! Thanks for the interest! Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Really great video! Especially for me a person going from drums to bass it’s a whole other world. Thank you for putting a great video with very useful information. Now I know what to get and build a pedal board!
Hello, Vassilis! PTMT is abbreviation for what order most folks recommend putting your pedals. It stands for Pitch, Tone, Modulation, and Time. So you'll want to put octave or polyphonic generating pedals first, then anything that changes your tone (overdrive, EQ pedals, distortion, fuzz, etc.), then modulation type effects (chorus, flanger, phaser), and last time based effects like reverb and delay. There are no set rules about what order to put pedals in, so if you find a combination of effects that you like, don't worry about it breaking any rules. I always say that anything musical can't be wrong if it sounds good. Thanks for the interest! Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Hello, Todd! I'm going to hopefully be expanding on this format with another video (or videos) sometime soon. I'd love to dig in more about perfecting pedal board tone, best practices, pedal order, compression, using multiple pedals in conjunction with each other, etc. Compressors should be more common. Thanks for the interest! Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Sweetwater Sounds great! Please don’t get me wrong, video here was a great beginning insight. One thing that I’m curious about is locations for my own rig. I run a Darkglass Hyper Luminal Comp a B7K Ultra. My dilemma is, my backup bass is passive. So, with a preamp pedal to “boost” the signal like it’s active, where would I place it in my pedalboard chain? Maybe right after the bass or tuner? Either way, great content here!😉👍🤘
@@generatorofheavy7761 That's a common dilemma with compression and EQ. Try both and see which one you like better, but I run my Darkglass Super Symmetry before my B7K Ultra. I like running the preamp after compression in case the comp eats a little bit of my tone in any way. Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
The only bass specific chorus (Boss CEB-3) sounded to me as though he was giving us the dry signal first but this was not the case lol. The other non bass-specific choruses sounded way better to me. Perhaps it's my speakers and the style of the piece he played on the Boss, but I did hear the effects way more on the others. I have the Boss and it sounds way better to me than it did here - on guitar too. My 2c Thanks.
I don't understand pre-amp pedals. If you're plugged into a really good bass amp, do you still really need the preamp pedal? Do you stack them together?
Preamp pedals are great for sculpting tone, and getting higher output with passive basses. Also, the vast majority of them will have a balanced DI output for getting your sound into the front of house. They're not always 100% necessary if you already like your tone (I have the all tube Mesa Prodigy Four:88 head that I always run straight into), but they can help in a lot of situations. It's like having all of your tone and sound in one box, so no matter what bass you plug in, or amp, you will still have your sound quickly and easily. Thanks for the interest! Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
The pricing is particularly hard to understand. The Darkglass box is more than $350 ... and that's about what I paid for a really nice used stand-alone amp.
@@mikeblaszczak5346 Yes, but think of the quality of the DG pedal, the insanely good distortion it provides to metal bassists, and, of course, the size. For example, I carry only my pedalboard with me and usually rely on the venue's backline for monitoring. So no heavy amps for me. Of course, this is just my personal experience, but I prefer the DG pedal more than any similarly priced amp that I've used.
I am a fledgling bassist who is 100% self-taught, I can play (just about) the likes of TOOL and RatM and RHCP (non-slap songs), but I barely understand the fringe basics of how EQ balance and distortion works, and have never owned a pedal before. So, it is all well and good to know names of pedals and what ones to get first, but it does not really tell me anything about them. What do they do? How do they do it? Why do I want to start with one kind of pedal and not another? It's like asking a parent for help on your math homework, and they just tell you the answer. That doesn't help me to understand it, you know?
Honestly: just get out there try diffrent stuff. Doesn't matter if you just play around in a software with recorded tracks or with a multieffect. The moment you actually change the parameters/knobs you will get a feel for what they do and what you like. Concerning the thing with what the pedals actual do: depending on how nerdy you want to get there's pretty mich endless stuff to learn. I started getting interested in effects some years ago and I still learn new stuff. Definetly check out the jhs-channel, that pedal show and cs guitars. For me, the best starting point was getting a multi-fx from zoom, the b3. Because you get so much stuff abd its easy to change the order of effects and learn how they interact together. That way I could figure out what I wanted and how "complicated"(one knob vs. A LOT of knobs) I wanted things to get. Sorry, that comment got kinda out of hand. Have a good one!
Distortion on a bass is NOISE. It's worse than nails on a chalkboard. When distortion/overdrive is applied to a bass, it's no longer a bass. It's a noise generator. A good one too.
It doesn't need to, but it will certainly help if what you want is intense chorus sounds. Deep chorus settings will risk losing pitch coherence of the fundamental, but YMMV. It would help to keep the depth control as low as you can while getting the sound you want. A clean blend will also help, because it will reduce the audibility of pitch incoherence (although, it will also reduce the entire chorus effect). Then there's what you're talking about, which is to high pass filter the chorus signal. I think high passing the filter signal is the most elegant solution for bass, but it's not the only one.
Wow!!! That was very very useful. Thank you so much for this knowledge especially because I have awful gears of accusation syndrome lol this video was a cure!
Hi thanks for this Video i do have 1 question can i possibly combine 2 darkglass preamp pedals like B7k Ultra and Microtubes X ultra? thanks for answering 👌
Hello, Moy ViLL! Yes, absolutely. I used to run the B7K Ultra and the Microbes X on my board, and would at times run both. The B7K was set to a much tamer overdriven tone, and the X pedal was a bit more aggressive. Running the milder overdrive into the more aggressive distortion pushes the aggressive tones even further. Thanks for the interest! Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Spunde@Sweetwater.com
People keep raving about these dark glass pedals and honestly I'm not impressed. Maybe it's just this demo, but my thoughts have usually been I don't care for the tone flavor of that pedal. 🤷🏻♂️ Much prefer the sands amp, it's usually much warmer and sounds better to my ears. 😄
@@yigitcengil2465 Yeah, he played it completely wrong rhythmically. The riff is straight eighth notes. He only plays like half the notes (and not even with consistent timing).
Hello, Dustin! I personally prefer to use my own preamp/DI for live use over the DI built into my amps. It's pretty common, actually! Most DIs on amps are kind of an afterthought, and using your own preamp is a great way to guarantee you'll have good low end and consistent tone. Check out this article Sweetwater did a little while back that I'll link below, and (I can't promise anything, but...) there might be another video with me coming soon about using DI boxes... ;) www.sweetwater.com/insync/direct-box-comparison-bass-guitar/ Thanks for the interest! Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Hello! A good way to think of preamp pedals is exactly like the first stage of an amp. You have tone shaping and volume controls, plus sometimes extras like distortion. Thanks for the interest! Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
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Like your bass strap where can I get one
Just one correction here about Aguilar Tone Hammer. In this video you first enable right knob which is AGS and later left which is Engage, but AGS isn't working without enabling first left knob, so in this video we can't hear just preamp sound without AGS ...
Playing Sweet Child O' Mine through the Corona made sense. It's what Duff uses, and he has a downloadable toneprint in their library. I have that pedal, and that toneprint is usually loaded into it, all knobs at 12 o'clock.
In my experience, first important pedal to buy... Tuner
Yessss
Use a phone app. It's free.
But if u have tuner in ur amp should u still buy?
Jakske JaJajAjaa Maybe it’s not super necessary, but tbh a tuner pedal is more accurate and you also have more options of tuning built in.
Nuper In Nocte its a terrible way to go about it
Clever bastard went straight for muse when testing the big muff. Phenomenal examples and demonstrations throughout the video. You've earned my sub.
Earn a sub? Oh boy....
Winning the league!!
@@markschimmoller3402 you just had to, didnt you? lolol very punny
YNWA, mate! 💪🔴
Compression is easily the most important. Also preamp.
No homo! Lol
@@markschimmoller3402 Ew'
how amazing to have a bass demo where the bass is playing something that a real bassist might play at a gig!!!!!
The Big Muff Deluxe Big Muff Pi is the one I keep coming back to. It has a secret weapon in the crossover feature. The high and low pass filters are great for dialing things in depending upon the room. The EQD "Plumes" is pretty badass on bass as well. And on the envelope filter tip, the Mr. Black "Fwonkbeta" is an absolute beast!
..." we´ll go over some of the BASSics.."
I see what you did there!
A bit late to the party but the Big Muff is a nifty little pedal. It has a three-way switch on it ,"Bass Boost", "Normal" and "Dry" plus "Volume" "Tone" and "Sustain" knobs. On either Bass Boost or Normal the Volume knob is, well, a volume knob. But on Dry the Volume knob turns into Blend so it blends the fuzz with your clean signal. That works wonderfully for making your sound dirtier without worrying about level and it keeps better low end in my opinion.
This guy could be anywhere between 22 and 45 and it’s honestly driving me mad
Balding at an early age is a b*tch😓
easy to talk shit when you're sat behind a computer.
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@@mkaizn well someone's bald and very self conscious lol
kaiz n lol it’s ok Mr. Clean, calm down
Sweetwater is the place to find and buy everything you need.
SWEETWATER ROCKS!!!
Gotta love this guy. He just educated me and saved me a bunch of money at the same time.
Yeah hes crazy awesome. When I made a purchase from sweetwater he called me when it arrived to see if it wereto my liking. I call him for buying advice and gear info for every purchase I make now. Just call over and ask for him!
The SansAmp Bass Driver can also get you a pretty good distortion/OD if you crank the gain. Granted, it's not separate from the rest of the pedal. I've used it as such though, and if you don't need it as an actual preamp, it does a really nice job. Both of mine are older models from around 2001 without those extra switches, so YMMV.
I purchased the Julia after hearing it in this video. As soon as I heard it all I could think is "THAT'S the sound I'm looking for!" Thank you for this video!
The downwards setting on the Big Muff with the 3-way switch (as the one in the video) turns the level knob into a blend knob. My go-to setting.
@4:54 your reactionary smile is almost enough by itself to make a sale! Hey, Kevin likes it! 😃 I love Sweetwater, all of its employees, and the sales engineers; especially Simon Whitehouse! *_Anything Sweetwater is awesome!_*
I love that this videos are getting more in depth little by little but don’t hold on it guys we want you to throw this info at us like an avalanche we’re ready for it 😊
I admit I don't see the need for a preamp. You've got plenty of EQ options on your bass and amp. And as for a DI box, audio interfaces pretty much replace those for home recording. And live, any venue with front of house support is also going to have their DI boxes.
I think a compressor is more useful. And maybe a high pass filter to cut the mud out of the bottom of your tone.
I beg to differ.
You can't always count on venues to have good quality DI boxes. If you care about your tone, a good DI box is a sound investment. Also, you always know what you're getting as far as what the FOH guy is gonna get.
As far as studio use goes, DI's allow you to split your signal, which is crucial when recording guitars through an amp (having both an amped track and a dry track in case something goes wrong and you need to re-amp).
I haven't seen that feature on many audio interfaces other than the Apogee Ensemble, and that's a 2000$ piece of gear.
Most venues can afford a Sansamp at a minimum. There's nothing wrong with that as a DI. But they probably have something far better than that (i.e. - something better than the average person can afford). They've already shelled out the money for a mixing board and PA, after all. And the front of house guy may not be world class, but he probably knows what he's doing better than you do. Buy one if you want. I've just never had a need for one.
I play classic rock, blues, R&B, and country in local venues (bars, clubs, parties) and THE most essential pedal for me is a parametric EQ. Some rooms have bad resonances at certain frequencies and this allows me to dial out the worst offender.
I had the 1st version of that Sansamp. Perfect stuff. Carry it with me for any gigs and studio works. Dont even need a rack. But still its depends on ur preference kinda tone you want.
I use the sansamp too
Using the looper for sound sample! Genius! You can make adjustments and not have to stop playing
Nice! Good to see fuzz and env filter here.
I paired down my bass pedalboard as I got tired of dragging a heavy road case that was killing my back. I now only have an mxr bass compressor, a boss tu2 tuner I've had for years, a sansamp 3, and an mxr bass envelope filter. My board now fits in a small commercial document case I bought at home depot. I ditched my dunlop bass wah, and my bass big muff as I just never use them in my band setting. I do still use them at home though.
The bass Muff has a "dry" setting, has nothing to do with the dry output, but it turns the volume knob into a blend knob.
Nice video. I wish I had seen it 20 years ago. I would have saved a few dollars.
I saw the comment on bass compression pedals. Good idea, but that should be its own video. So much to cover. Some pedals have 1 knob, while others have everything you would find in a studio rack mount.
I second that
I think I have 3 in my chain that do compression. Preamp stage.. Post fuzz and distortion.. And one of my amps which I often use 2 ABY. Never find the right attack with just one.
Comp, EQ, Preamp, DI, UNIVIBE! Yep, a Vibe works great with bass.
Bass Big Muff Pi: You CAN blend your clean. Has a mode for that.
Like the muse bassline in there
7:17 sound a tool sounding base , love it!
Chorus, Envelope, octaver I have and billy sheehan's overdrive pedal (third gen) for the over the top drive (all EBS pedals). I use the built in drive/od/fuzz in the Bergantino Forte HD for the rest. Just sounds so much better than the pedals drive/od/fuzz pedals to me. Bergantino allows you to download the drive/od/fuzz compination you want and you can have 2 settings at the same time. Plus you get a very clear tone transparent tone that can be shaped extensively with the eq options. Turn on the internal drive at 0 or just above and it behaves/sounds like a tube amp. Plus I don't have to have a crazy pedal board. At 1200 class d watt it can hold its own too... Easily one of the best bass amps and cabs out there. Too bad that Sweetwater doesn't carry them (and TrickFish) :(.
The Aguilar Agro sounds amazing
I wish you would have covered compression pedals. I play two basses. A Fender Jazz that’s passive and a Tobias that is active. The Tobias has a much hotter output. I need to balayage levels that I’m sending to the board
Origin effects Cali 76! Bad as f....
Love how it just jumps to Spunde sitting criss-cross on the ground haha
I like the Fender amp too. I use one at rehearsal its great.
KEVIN! Greatest Sweetwater guy ever!!!
You guys are the best. Got about a million of your stickers on a million different things of mine
Mmm! That BOSS Overdrive was GIRTHY!! And I mean that in the best possible way 🤘
Good video but bit but I’m anxiously awaiting the follow up. I’ve basically got your setup that you were demonstrating. Pedal order and placement. Meaning where do you sergers placing the Darkglass preamp on an amp. In front? In the effects loop? I know timebased effects such as the chorus would prob be best in the loop but what about the preamp?
Hello, Mark! Most commonly, preamp pedals are run either at the very beginning of your pedalboard signal chain or at the very end of the pedalboard, right before the input of the amp. The effects loop is best left for time-based effects, or other processing. It's relatively popular to run a DBX 160a compressor in the effects loop of a bass amp, for instance.
I'll be expanding on this video sometime soon. The next thing I shoot will be about perfecting pedalboard tone, pedal order, buffers, DI's, compressor pedals, using multiple pedals together in certain orders to get desired sounds, etc. Stay tuned!
Thanks for the interest!
Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
We’ll get started with the BASSics
Nice video! A powered pedalboard like Voodoo Dingbat is helpful to avoid the mess with individual power cables
Really great video! Especially for me a person going from drums to bass it’s a whole other world. Thank you for putting a great video with very useful information. Now I know what to get and build a pedal board!
2:56 "You want a different type of even distortion sound tha-.. ww-ruhmms that pedal or.."
Those are my grandma's earrings, give them back!
I thought that maybe a medical condition,
Ya know the way rugby front row guys HV cauliflower ears... Ridiculous , but hey.. who cares.
thanks for the video but i was kind of hoping to hear something about the order of the pedals on the pedalboard . anything on that ?
Hello, Vassilis! PTMT is abbreviation for what order most folks recommend putting your pedals. It stands for Pitch, Tone, Modulation, and Time. So you'll want to put octave or polyphonic generating pedals first, then anything that changes your tone (overdrive, EQ pedals, distortion, fuzz, etc.), then modulation type effects (chorus, flanger, phaser), and last time based effects like reverb and delay. There are no set rules about what order to put pedals in, so if you find a combination of effects that you like, don't worry about it breaking any rules. I always say that anything musical can't be wrong if it sounds good.
Thanks for the interest!
Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Now I know where my saddlebag conchs went! Give them back!
Picked up a filter twin , octamizer and fuzzistor from Sweetwater last month! So much fun!
Those pedals are cool and all... but are there any overdrive pedals nowdays that are actually cheap?
Agular for the win.
Great, thanks !
Nice video, you sooo help me, gracias, grettings from Perú
Dude the avocados are ✨immaculate✨
Great video, really informative and not too long winded.
Plenty of good advice.
no octave?!?
Guy sitting on rhe floor playing with bass pedals, yes.
Awesome demo
I miss my ODB-3. I should have never got rid of that thing..
No compressors?
Hello, Todd! I'm going to hopefully be expanding on this format with another video (or videos) sometime soon. I'd love to dig in more about perfecting pedal board tone, best practices, pedal order, compression, using multiple pedals in conjunction with each other, etc. Compressors should be more common. Thanks for the interest!
Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Sweetwater Sounds great! Please don’t get me wrong, video here was a great beginning insight. One thing that I’m curious about is locations for my own rig. I run a Darkglass Hyper Luminal Comp a B7K Ultra. My dilemma is, my backup bass is passive. So, with a preamp pedal to “boost” the signal like it’s active, where would I place it in my pedalboard chain? Maybe right after the bass or tuner? Either way, great content here!😉👍🤘
@@generatorofheavy7761 That's a common dilemma with compression and EQ. Try both and see which one you like better, but I run my Darkglass Super Symmetry before my B7K Ultra. I like running the preamp after compression in case the comp eats a little bit of my tone in any way.
Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Yeah crazy huh. That should be first.
Volume pedals too
Before watching this video I actually bought the big muff pedal
Playing some Tool! Love it!
This guy has the wardrobe of my grandfather and the ears of my nieces boyfriend.
Amazing info, thanks!
Great demo, thanks!
The only bass specific chorus (Boss CEB-3) sounded to me as though he was giving us the dry signal first but this was not the case lol. The other non bass-specific choruses sounded way better to me. Perhaps it's my speakers and the style of the piece he played on the Boss, but I did hear the effects way more on the others. I have the Boss and it sounds way better to me than it did here - on guitar too. My 2c Thanks.
He never turned it on I don’t think. I have one and it’s not THAT subtle.
I don't understand pre-amp pedals. If you're plugged into a really good bass amp, do you still really need the preamp pedal? Do you stack them together?
Preamp pedals are great for sculpting tone, and getting higher output with passive basses. Also, the vast majority of them will have a balanced DI output for getting your sound into the front of house. They're not always 100% necessary if you already like your tone (I have the all tube Mesa Prodigy Four:88 head that I always run straight into), but they can help in a lot of situations. It's like having all of your tone and sound in one box, so no matter what bass you plug in, or amp, you will still have your sound quickly and easily. Thanks for the interest!
Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
@@sweetwater That....makes more sense now. Thank you so much, good sir!!!!
The pricing is particularly hard to understand. The Darkglass box is more than $350 ... and that's about what I paid for a really nice used stand-alone amp.
@@mikeblaszczak5346 Yes, but think of the quality of the DG pedal, the insanely good distortion it provides to metal bassists, and, of course, the size. For example, I carry only my pedalboard with me and usually rely on the venue's backline for monitoring. So no heavy amps for me. Of course, this is just my personal experience, but I prefer the DG pedal more than any similarly priced amp that I've used.
The darkglass b7k ultra is WORTH IT. I've never gotten more compliments on my tone and I can play with any bass on any rig.
I am a fledgling bassist who is 100% self-taught, I can play (just about) the likes of TOOL and RatM and RHCP (non-slap songs), but I barely understand the fringe basics of how EQ balance and distortion works, and have never owned a pedal before.
So, it is all well and good to know names of pedals and what ones to get first, but it does not really tell me anything about them. What do they do? How do they do it? Why do I want to start with one kind of pedal and not another? It's like asking a parent for help on your math homework, and they just tell you the answer. That doesn't help me to understand it, you know?
Try going in to a music store and just play with a couple pedals. What do you like? Does it make sense for me? Is it cool?
Honestly: just get out there try diffrent stuff. Doesn't matter if you just play around in a software with recorded tracks or with a multieffect. The moment you actually change the parameters/knobs you will get a feel for what they do and what you like. Concerning the thing with what the pedals actual do: depending on how nerdy you want to get there's pretty mich endless stuff to learn. I started getting interested in effects some years ago and I still learn new stuff. Definetly check out the jhs-channel, that pedal show and cs guitars.
For me, the best starting point was getting a multi-fx from zoom, the b3. Because you get so much stuff abd its easy to change the order of effects and learn how they interact together. That way I could figure out what I wanted and how "complicated"(one knob vs. A LOT of knobs) I wanted things to get.
Sorry, that comment got kinda out of hand. Have a good one!
Distortion on a bass is NOISE. It's worse than nails on a chalkboard.
When distortion/overdrive is applied to a bass, it's no longer a bass. It's a noise generator. A good one too.
I like those avocado socks man :D great vid, sick sounding bass btw!
good well rounded video !
I was under the impression that bass specific chorus pedals left some of the low end in tact, only chorusing the higher frequencies.
It doesn't need to, but it will certainly help if what you want is intense chorus sounds. Deep chorus settings will risk losing pitch coherence of the fundamental, but YMMV. It would help to keep the depth control as low as you can while getting the sound you want. A clean blend will also help, because it will reduce the audibility of pitch incoherence (although, it will also reduce the entire chorus effect). Then there's what you're talking about, which is to high pass filter the chorus signal.
I think high passing the filter signal is the most elegant solution for bass, but it's not the only one.
The Aguilar pedals were both noticeably better than the others, just my opinion
Into the Bass ics
I came here for 10:59
Tool. I approve.
Informative and straight forward, thank you!
Best bass Fuzz is the She Fuzz version 2 or 3 if you can find one used.
Thank you for this
The grimmer the face, the nastier the tone 🙂
Wow!!! That was very very useful. Thank you so much for this knowledge especially because I have awful gears of accusation syndrome lol this video was a cure!
Kevin!!! My man!
Yes. The SansAmp IS a good ... BASSis for your toan
PUNS FTW!!!!!!!
great video
The quiet riot was a good surprise
Is there a list of the pedals demonstrated here?
I was hoping to see compressors in here. Based on videos I am seeing it looks like many people have no idea how to use them.
The most versatile and useful and essential pedal you NEED as a bassist is a BOSS OC2 octave pedal. If you get one pedal, get this
Great video; thanks!
46 & 2 🤘🏽
Compressor is the most important bass pedal !
So, basically... get as much Darkglass in your signal chain as possible, with maybe that Julia chorus. +1 on MXR envelope
Tool is awesome
Guitar pedals i
Usually perform perfectly with bass !
Hi thanks for this Video i do have 1 question can i possibly combine 2 darkglass preamp pedals like B7k Ultra and Microtubes X ultra? thanks for answering 👌
Hello, Moy ViLL! Yes, absolutely. I used to run the B7K Ultra and the Microbes X on my board, and would at times run both. The B7K was set to a much tamer overdriven tone, and the X pedal was a bit more aggressive. Running the milder overdrive into the more aggressive distortion pushes the aggressive tones even further.
Thanks for the interest!
Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Spunde@Sweetwater.com
so we'll go over some of the *BASSics*
People keep raving about these dark glass pedals and honestly I'm not impressed. Maybe it's just this demo, but my thoughts have usually been I don't care for the tone flavor of that pedal. 🤷🏻♂️ Much prefer the sands amp, it's usually much warmer and sounds better to my ears. 😄
Anyone else hit like at 3:37?
I Like Trains His timing was pretty bad but I apriciated the muse tribute .
@@yigitcengil2465 Yeah, he played it completely wrong rhythmically. The riff is straight eighth notes. He only plays like half the notes (and not even with consistent timing).
what song is this help help help i dont know the song help help help
@@fivussywave Muse - Time is running out
Any advice from anybody for the Mel GFR sound? Thx.........
Lol I've got the same socks from a friend!
Do most bass players use a pre amp if their amp head has a direct out?
Hello, Dustin! I personally prefer to use my own preamp/DI for live use over the DI built into my amps. It's pretty common, actually! Most DIs on amps are kind of an afterthought, and using your own preamp is a great way to guarantee you'll have good low end and consistent tone. Check out this article Sweetwater did a little while back that I'll link below, and (I can't promise anything, but...) there might be another video with me coming soon about using DI boxes... ;)
www.sweetwater.com/insync/direct-box-comparison-bass-guitar/
Thanks for the interest!
Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com
Sweetwater right on. Thanks for the info!
Greatly appreciated!
7:18 what riff is that it sounds so familiar :) sounds like dream theater
46 & 2 by Tool
It's Tool, but you might be thinking of Home by Dream Theater, which is similar.
What exactly are preamp pedals for? Is that like the top part of an Amp
combo
Hello! A good way to think of preamp pedals is exactly like the first stage of an amp. You have tone shaping and volume controls, plus sometimes extras like distortion.
Thanks for the interest!
Kevin Spunde, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1732, Kevin_Spunde@Sweetwater.com