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STOP SURRENDERING EARLY! The Match Is FAR From Over... Pokémon Unite
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- Опубликовано: 17 авг 2021
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If you’re “struggling to keep up” or “really struggling,” lost the Zapdos fight, AND aren’t in a good position to counter with your own scoring, THEN it’s appropriate to concede. It boggles my mind how many people bring it to a vote an entire minute before zapdos even spawns, though. Babies.
What if you have an AFK or you team is still not fully evolved 1 minute before zapdos?
@@Byakurenfan Even if there's still a small chance you could come out on top with Zapdos, it's dumb to concede.
My advice is - it's a 10 minute game. Don't concede at all lol
Nah, I really hate going for Zapdos steals. I'd really rather just start a new game tbh.
@@Pandaman64 I've had to do so many steals with eldegoss uilt solo just to still lose it was not worth it.
Straight up. Had a greninja and a zearora that kept trying to 1v4 the enemy team, after we lost the first Dreadnaw/Rotom they proceeded to sit in spawn and spam the surrender option then they just sat in spawn all game when no one agreed to surrender
Thumbs up, so many People want to give up early. You can only be sure you lost after zapdos.
Agreed. Even then if you were way ahead before you can stop it.
@@spragels true
And then the opposite happens when you vote to surrender after Zapdos is lost and people say no 😂
Actually won a match a couple days ago after we lost zapdos. Ended up winning by like 12 points in the end.
@Austin Igert yeah it tends to happen but like less than 2% is won after losing Zapdos I would personally say.. very very low chances
I only surrender when I for sure know my teammates just don’t work well together. Example: I had a team of 2 defenders and 3 speedsters in ranked, and ALL speedsters went Jungle. Not a death sentence, but then the speedsters constantly kept feeding the enemy team, pushing for 1v3s and taking turns dying instead of trying to work together. They never tried for Dreadnaw, and they had no exp between the 3 of them. Rather surrender than get styled because the other members are playing solo adventures in a team based game.
What happened in that example is rough!
Only time I actually vote surrender (in random solo queues):
1. More than 1 player goes mid at the start of the game
2. Team does not contest drednaw
3. My lane partner loves to yolo and feed enemy team
Brother this is like the 5th notification I’ve gotten today, this vid is definitely my favorite. It’s so upsetting seeing people surrender 5 minutes into a game. Good job with all the hard work.
I think one of the reasons people try to surrender early is, they feel like winning won’t be worth the stress, not saying it’s right, just trying to understand them.
I can't. That leads to quitting every match that isn't a landslide. They just want matches handed to them and not actually play for it. Learn to lose a match.
Something important to remember in any competitive game is to keep yourself mentally healty. Doesn't matter what you are playing, if you are entering in a losing streak or you feel frustrated after a last minute lose, you need to take a break, maybe just go for a big glass of water, drink it calmly and then go back to play; otherwise you will tilt and will stop enjoying what you are playing and even start becaming toxic
I think this is generally true. Good advice!
It's funny, because my experience so far as been the opposite. Getting matches where the team just won't cooperate, continually gets in each other's way, getting stomped hard by the enemy team like there's no contest, and just generally being a match that needs to be ended so that everyone can move on and have a better day, but nope. No one wants to surrender.
Keep playing even though they run into a 1v3 and die over and over and over.
FAAAAAACTS WHY DO YOU WANT TO KEEP GOING IF YOU’RE LOOSING EVERY SINGLE BOSS FIGHT AND CLEARLY GETTING STEEM ROLLED NO TO METION GETTING YOUR FARM STOLEN BY A NON EVOLVING POKÉMON WHILE YOU PLAY AS CINDERACE what in the actual f**k
Completely agree. I’m not surrendering because we’re losing. I’m surrendering because I’m clearly playing by myself.
It's called not giving a shit and doing it on purpose for the lulz. Tencent wont do a GODDAMN THING ABOUT IT. Because they will occasionally spend money so banning customers is out of the question. To sum it up were screwed because it will not get any better
But it doesnt matter how badly goes the match, if you win the zapdos thats almost always the match there. I have won so many matches where we were just getting our butts kicked very badly and we got lucky on stealing/killing the zapdos and that gave us the victory.
Surrender after you lose zapdos. If you lose over 50% of the time, you’re probably the problem not the team.
You're doing everything right man, keep it up 👍🔥🔥
This is my thoughts exactly. The last 2 minutes can turn the tides of any game unless you're like 500 points behind with 2 mins would go
Every now and then I will surrender because I don’t want my team to be playing a game they hate. I’m fine with taking a loss and moving on but most of the time it’s really not over. I will of course surrender after we get stomped at Zapdos
@@spragels that's most likely when I'll surrender too, when we've took a massive beating most of the game and then an even bigger beating after Zapdos.
There are moments so frustrating in this game, that I literally dont touch video games for 48 hours afterwards. The lack of ability to communicate with teammates is so insane to me, and leads to so many unnecessary losses
Like you’re in ranked and you don’t go to drednaw yea ftw dude!
Having watched this game I agree its never over... But it probably should be. This is why I don't like double points because you can't be outplayed the entire game and one fight flips the game
Yeah, this is the thing. Double points and zapdos almost make the previous 8 minutes of the game just irrelevant.
But that's also why, if a majority of my team want's to surrender, I will. I don't want people to be stuck playing a game they aren't having fun in just because it's theoretically possible to win. They aren't having fun. And chances are I'm not having fun either.
I don't care enough about WINNING to be stubborn about it.
@@Alex-ks3uu I don't know, usually the vote is like this at the 3 minute mark. You're asking people to "not have fun" for probably 90 more seconds and then the match will be decided. If you can't tolerate that then I'm not sure what can be done. I definitely think skipping the potentially exciting end of game team fight is not the best way to have fun.
In professional sports, commentators will occasionally mention how a team lost a game but managed to secure a victory. The premise is that the team didn't deserve to win the game based on its overall performance. And that's how I feel when I'm losing a game by hundreds of points before Zapdos spawns.
Frankly, if our team is getting farmed in the lanes and can't win any team fight and the opposing team is up several levels then I'm not invested anymore. And when I do manage to win a game because of Zapdos I feel gross. Icky. It's like being in a championship game and when the other team loses no one gets the coveted champions trophy. Instead, they hand me a participation trophy and the other team goes home with nothing.
@@lllCTHULHUlll Yeah. I really truly think Zapdos needs a nerf. Or a change in mechanics.
Or maybe Zapdos is fine but the actual issue is that double points are too strong?
@@michaelford2754 If you've reached Zapdos, you might as well see if you can flip it and win, I totally agree. I usually see surrender votes pop up earlier in the game, at the 5 minute mark when it becomes available. Yeah, you COULD still win, because this game is won/lost in the last 2 mintues, but if people are miserable by the 5 minute mark then I'm gonna accept that surrender.
There are certainly times where a surrender vote gets put in by one disgruntled person, and that feeling isn't shared by the rest of the team. But if 3 people have accepted that vote? Then I'm gonna accept it, even if I think we could win or if I'm having fun. Because if 3 people want out, I'm not gonna force them to play a game they aren't enjoying.
Obviously it's a vote for a reason, so no one is OBLIGATED to at all. But it's how I approach the decision.
I only surrender after Zapdos is lost, or ASAP when the randos on my team make me hate playing with them by just not doing anything right. :)
Haha I get it
Just happened on rank. The pain being in a lower rank. Everyone left me alone on the top as Crustle (which surprisingly I held 3 ppl off.) It was just terrible they didn't even bother to get Drednaw or Zapdos costing us the game even though I used the map to point out. 😔
@@cheiftainvulpix RIGHT?! Even now, I had to remind myself that I was in veteran rank having three people go top leaving me (a blissay) on bot. They even did it to another blissay when I couldn't get support (I went jungle instead). So, I had to drop everything and get to bot to help her as fast as possible. It's dumb how people seem to not know how to play.
Yeah... People fumbling is expected in Standard, but Ranked?? I blame the "Play X Ranked matches" missions.
@@cheiftainvulpix Lower rank? This kind of crap still happens in Ultra and Masters. Had a Machamp the other day that stole my jp camps then invaded the enemy jp and died, this happened for the entire game, and my team still didn’t want to surrender after we even lost Zapdos.
Guess who got mvp though…. Yep the Machamp who scored 100 points at 2 minutes left because he ignored Zapdos fight and took top goal :)
Normally I would agree. Except when they've taken all of your zones, have 3-4 lvls on you and are fully evolved when your chars are in the 2nd stage evo...even zapdos won't bring you back from that
I've had that scenario play out, and we didn't even get zapdos and we still won.
Thank you for making these PSAs. I always wish I could communicate to my teams to at least tell them common things they should know. I know most of them would be toxic and not listen, but if they hear it enough, maybe at least a few of them would stop doing the wrong thing every chance they get.
Couldn't agree more Spragels! I'm so happy to see that there are people with positive attitudes who want to play to the end. :)
Honestly it can really destroy morale to even initiate the surrender vote. Whether it passes or fails isn't relevant, cause nobody believes they can win when they see that pop up. That's why I always go the extra mile when a surrender vote doesn't go through, and really try my hardest to push the team into a good position to get momentum back. It's all I can really do since we don't have proper comms to rally and inspire people with.
You are so right it does demoralize the team
I’ve had many times when a teammate initiated the surrender vote in an even (or favorable) game (sometimes more than once per game). Kinda funny when the rest of the team instantly rejects the vote.
@@-w0rdz-30 Same! Lmao I don't know what goes through people's heads when they do that sometimes haha
@@-w0rdz-30 I do that pretty much every time I die in a dumb way because I want to mentally check out after such a dumb play. Also some games where my team is soft inting or just not doing anything I throw it up instantly because I don’t think they deserve the potential win.
Regardless of that I never really stop trying unless Zapdos is lost, then I just afk in base and watch RUclips or something.
Playing league since early seasons really makes you want to surrender early when you have bad teammates in pretty much any game lmao
Love that you referenced Krashy’s video about how to turn the game, I watched that and it was so helpful in calmly delineating what to do when you’re down. It’s so important to know how to salvage a game when your original plan goes awry.
:)
The sentiment of the video was good, you really shouldn't give up and should just be farming constantly until it's time to group and only really getting kills when you capitalize on opponents mistakes.
But the tactics in Krashy's video were a bit off and the main the reason the rotom play paid off wasnt that going top and getting rotom gave them much, but was because the opponent, after taking drednaw immediately ran down top lane to dive a second tier goal which is suicide if its defended that early in the game so they were given a huge amount of comeback exp for killing higher level opponents.
I mostly disagreed with the notion that they were too far behind to group (looked at the levels), when really it was more that Krashy didnt need to go ganking as a chameleon who had already fallen behind and doing it at the worst timing when instead he could have been farming and getting ready for drednaw so the team could have had better positioning and actually had a chance to take drednaw.
Focusing on farming and timings for drednaw is far more important than anything the team would have got by those early ganks, so I just dont want people to start thinking that because they're not winning there is no reason to be grouping, because it took ages for us to start getting people to understand how important that is even up in master.
I've been in your spot so many times dude. Nice to see this type of content for the game man. Appreciate it.
I was in a match where 2 players on my team wanted to surrender but me and 1 other teammate kept playing and scoring while the ones who wanted to surrendered sat at home base needless to say final score came up and we lost by 20 pts I was so mad! 🤦♂️
i think a lot of people surrender due to emotions versus logic. sadly that could be the difference between a win or lose
I don’t know, I’ve been in plenty of pug games where no one even wants to do Zapdos (or anything else). At that point I’d rather surrender and try to get on a team where people are at least trying.
But yeah, if people are trying I’m definitely all about fighting to the end!
exactly
people tend to surrender when it's not a stomp in their favor, then those same people always throw at the 2 minute mark. also, I haven't been able to confirm this, but it happened to me once, we were winning all game, but lost the zapdos in the last minute and we all wiped. But we surrendered before they turned in, and it counted as a win, as we had more points, haven't been able to test that, kind of need a full group to test.
Every video by you about this game is getting better and better. Thank you for the tips!
Thank you!
your levels were close enough where you can make a come back, but there were matches ive been in where my team was 5 levels behind, all bases were taken, and the other team was just patrolling in a full group killing everyone, that was a definite surrender scenario, but nobody wanted to surrender and just drug out the match
Kind of ridiculous people don't surrender in a situation like that. Maybe it's mostly little kids you were playing with and they either don't know how to surrender, or figured it was worth trying still. In a match like that, I don't think a comeback is gonna happen. It's almost impossible to win when behind that much.
@@lifadysi9418 yeah the only way to win from that is if the other team afks for the rest of the match
One of the upsides of Zapdos being so powerful and polarizing (despite the dislike by some for the mechanic) is that the game is really never over until zapdos. Unless you’ve been ABSOLUTELY rocked the whole game and are over 500 points down, you can always win if you capture it.
great delivery on the vid voiceover wise - nice and neutral yet motivated
Thanks!
I only like surrendering early when one of our players are disconnected or away from their controller and they are not coming back. They just sit in the base all match while it's 5 on 4 and it's miserable! I had a Machamp tonight that would periodically leave the base for a fight and then afk for a long time, very frustrating.
I hate playing with people like that. I report and maybe block them. I'm sick of people giving crap like that to their team.
Man I hope more people find this video so ppl stop surrendering at the first sign of trouble
Personally speaking i get really tilted when seeing performances of my teammates, therefore i made myself a rule to only even think about surrendering after either the second dread or zapdos, earlier than that isnt right i feel like
I feel like people try to surrender each game at this point. I've had people try to surrender and then we win the game. Shit is beyond annoying. It's also hard to win from those points cause you see how many people on your team have already given up. Super frustrating as someone who's always solo-queue
The biggest problem is that most people just feed feed feed the opponents. They don't group fight dred, they will allow opponents to get their lane mobs....
It's not just a thing involving the score. I don't want to waste my time knowing my guy on my team that's not gonna be Charizard for the final fight..... Yep it's a waste and this happens often. People try to score too much over extend and die. Rinse repeat and they never learn.
My least favorite thing is the moment the 5 minute mark happens and your team insta surrender votes if you don’t have a “Huge Lead!” Like even in high level ranked people do that shit and it’s so annoying. I’ve won so many games where my team has tried to forfeit multiple times just because we played Zapdos well at the end.
You can actually tell very quickly if your team has any hope by the way they react to objectives and call for back up. I agree, don't surrender just because your behind but I'd rather surrender if I know my team won't come through and stop wasting my time.
Personally i want to surrender early not because we are losing, but because am frustrated teammates are behaving strangely. Snorlax with full health running away in team fights, no one wants to do objectives, absol going straight to enemy base full of pokemons and etc
As someone who mainly plays Garchomp, it's definitely frustrating when someone you're laning with doesn't realize how much help an early game Gible needs and then starts calling for a surrender after we lose the first Dreadnaw fight to a 2v3 fight. We've pulled through in the mid-game as Garchomp gets stronger and start winning more team fights. Us late game powerhouses definitely need our momentum to turn the tide of the game!
I never surrender before Zapdos is done. NEVER. It's just too strong. That said, to my shame, I have requested surrender on two occasions AFTER LOSING Zapdos, only to have my request denied. In both cases we came back and won. I'm VERY hesitant to surrender now.
Look, it sucks to play a losing game. But I find when you're losing, you're probably not losing by as much as you think you are. The in-game popups are not particularly encouraging or descriptive.
But EVEN IF you lose Zapdos, and you're losing the entire game, you can win. It has happened to me multiple times. Because even with a win on Zapdos, they may not have the huge points to dunk, and you may be able to backdoor them with some points of your own.
No thanks. Do as you will, but IMO too many people associate "having fun," solely with winning, which is unfortunate. If you just want to win, play this game I just created, it's called, "You Win." Ok, ready? Start! ....You win... have fun? Didn't think so.
Sass aside, I play solo queue and sometimes I'm simply not having fun with the teammates I have, even if we're winning, and I don't want to spend another 5 minutes of possibly someone stealing my mobs, getting out of position, feeding, AFKing, etc, and I'd rather just acknowledge my frustration, feel it, call the match, let it go, and move to the next match; it stands in everyone's favor. Really, if you're seeing teammates try to surrender, you know they are clearly not motivated to keep playing this match/aren't having a good time, and you're purposefully denying them that; who's the bigger jerk? The guy who just wants everyone to move on to matches where they can have fun, or the guy who denies the fun of others for their own sense of, "we can still win this!"?
The obvious counterpoint, is that unfortunate or not, some people do need to win to have fun, and by surrendering you're denying them that. Which is true, so it goes both ways, which is exactly why I said "do as you will," before giving my opinion. Best solution? Acknowledge both sides, stop complaining, and realize that enjoying anything that involves other people involves a little give and take from all parties, and you won't always get 100% the experience you want, but it's still 1000x better than no experience at all (much like the partnership of marriage, for those of us who know what that entails). This then becomes a non-issue that didn't need a video in the first place. It just spreads misconception of what it means to coexist with others.
tl;dr
Want to surrender? Vote to surrender.
Don't want to surrender? Vote not to surrender.
Growing up playing youth sports, surrendering was never an option. Could be getting ran over, shut out, and not having any fun, but the game still has to be played. That mentality has stuck with me into my adult life, and now I'm the dick who never surrenders. The matches aren't that long, do I just like to use the time to experiment with ranges, positioning and timing, as well as learning from my opponents the ranges, timing and movesets of pokemon I don't personally use.
So i'm not a ranked player, but Pretty much the only time i actually try to surrender early is if either:
A: i ended up in a 4v5 or especially the rare instance where 2 teamates go afk so it ends up being 3v5
B: My team is so thoroughly outclassed that we are probably gonna be stuck at our spawn by the 3 minute mark. -though from what i've heard about the sheer range of tiers that can be fought by even the highest ranks, this situation can easily happen to people trying to ascend past great-
Other than that, pretty much only surrender after it's clear that there isn't enough the team can do to offset the zapdos points, especially in the lower tiers/standard matches (seriously, from the relativly few ranked matches I've played, low ranked and standard matches feel the exact same) where the zapdos points make up a good majority of the game's score
I understand this and it can be a good thing to not surrender so easily, but forever game where my team makes a last chance hell mary victory play...
I'll have six games where they still don't understand what the heck do and be separated in all corners of the map. Not even trying to take a zapdos fight or room or drednaw. So while it can work out in the end. Most of the time it doesn't and I'd rather just move on
Thank you very much for the video. My issue with the strategy at 6:40 is that when I try to fall back, my team refuses to do so. I seem to always get paired up with people who don’t want to work together……. Like, help ME help YOU!
Ugh, lol…
What do you recommend I do in that situation? Because I even give the sign for “Retreat”, and they don’t take the advice…
Also, you can be reported and ACTUALLY punished by the developers for not surrendering???????
I mean at least they were grouping up for teamfight, sometimes you just don't even have that and playstyles don't match at all, even then there's always some people that don't want to surrender and yeah sometimes it's a miraculous save or a zapdos steal (which should never be a thing considering it decide the winner in most cases).
Sometimes I just like to cast a surrender vote to make people react (since we don't have anything to tell people to get their fingers out of theirs asses), but not gonna lie it usually end badly, some people playstyle just don't fit together at all.
My "favorite" (heavy sarcasm) is when players immediately run into the opponent's first zone, die immediately, then call for surrender with 9 minutes left.
I think you have to be 5 minutes into a non-quick match to call a surrender.
Totally agree with you. I’ve seen this set up so much and yes it is absolutely possible to come back. Don’t get people surrendering at 5 min… I only surrender when there is less than a minute left, never before.
Great content, huge heals on that Cinder pre-Zapdos vs Charizard. Any reason for not HHing Snorlax or Lucario at 5:50?
So thankful you released this video. I've had people tried to surrender when we were winning! Like just becaues you're getting abused doesn't mean we all are.
I never surrender. Maybe if there’s 2 AFK or something crazy but I have been getting stomped AND loose zap and still win. You never know and what’s another 2 minutes to find out. Plus it’s a psychological thing. Surrendering is a slippery slope. Surrender at zap? Why not surrender after loosing 3 dred? Why not surrender after loosing 1 dred? It’s a competitive mentality. Never surrender ever. It will make you a better player to just fight it out when you face adversity. This is the same with RL sports and life in general.
It baffles me when people want to ff after losing the 1st dreadnaw, there are so many opportunities to comeback. Also great vid!
Now I would not have surrendered in that particular match because your team mates were mostly making good decisions, but they just got out played.
The matches I surrender in are those lane partners that deep dive every single time to get kills and just end up feeding the enemy. Bad decisions on top of bad decisions, it always ends badly.
Had one game where a Snorlax kept stealing the last hit for my attacker, or a talonflame that decides to take bottom lane and constantly deep dives. This was in ultra rank too.
Sometimes I interpret someone calling for surrender as more of a "get your heads in the game" wake-up call, and I think that sometimes is the intent. Admittedly I've done this before, less of "we've already lost and we should give up" and more of "we're going to lose if we keep this up"
Oh yeah sometimes i actually do that too.
In normal match, I am this kind of guy who want surrender when I see teammates don't know how to play (nobody in jungle, three on the line, don't farm xp, suicide themselves on the ennemi base, etc) and we die again and again. It's too much frustrating to stay
More people need to know, that exp share has a visual indicator on people running it. If you dont see a lightbulb, they dont have exp share
I resonate with this mentality, i play talonflame, all i need is a nice brave bird steal of the opposing team's dreadnaw2 or zapdos to turn it around in my mind
If you just lost Zapdos and they drop 3 bombs on you, please concede. Save us all the extra minute and change of waiting around for the end screen.
Agreed
I only surrender when we get an AFK, but the annoying thing is that one (maybe random?) person is told "Hey, you have an AFK, you wanna take the dead weight?" It doesn't inform the whole party, just that one person. So me and my duo partner will try to surrender because he got the AFKer (it's never me getting them btw despite being the Support in 95% of my games), we both know there is an AFK because we can talk to each other, but our other allies don't realize and won't just let the match go and move on because from their perspective we have all our teammates. We've decided it's better to leave the AI at the base so that people will realize that there's an AFK.
Machamp is actually really good with helping hand and something you shouldn't ignore most of his damage is bullying someone with fast autos high crit and slowing the enemy. It turns him into such a powerhouse I had a blissey boosting me and it gives him so many things that are really good
The problem is when people ignore the Zaptos comeback, if you’re “really struggling” then you NEED to win that fight, it’s literally all or nothing. If you’re struggling and lose that fight then you surrender
You’re a sweetheart 💛
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Glad you uploaded this, hopefully people will see it and decide to just play out the whole game. It’s only 10 minutes, and most games can be won.
paused at 0:04 to write this, why wouldnt i surrender when 2 teammates are still level 4 after 5 min, 1 teammate is too afraid to fight winnable fights backs and stays under base and another doesnt leave jungle? its easy to comeback if your team stays focused and gets zapdos for the turnaround, but if said criteria is met the games could even be 30 min the result would still be the same....
I mean, is it too early to surrender when you have 1 AFK on your team, the one ally just kind of sits around and feeds the enemy team, and the enemy is already at the middle base within 5 minutes? I think there are times, where surrendering, can save time.
Never over till its over. Unless lil Timmy is playing Charizard. Then it's a lost cause.
Hard agree, drives me crazy. Had a game earlier where I DCed in the beginning of the game as Cinderace. Made the early game super rough, we were falling behind but I clawed my way to level 14 by the 3 minute mark. Then all 4 of my teammates surrendered. Like, come on! At least try to fight at Zapdos! That’s literally all that matters in this game. I’m a level 14 Cinderace, we can win with that alone.
You're not my dad! I'll surrender every single game on the 5 minute mark if I want!
I’m not your real dad but I am the dad who is here. I still love you kiddo.
when i press surrender early it's mainly because I'm already losing hope in the teammates and I feel too unbothered to continue the match with teammates who just do their own thing
Today when playing, I really learned that you shouldn’t give up early, like my team almost did one time. Zapdos can turn a game in an instant.
Sucks when you’re the team winning the whole time and lose to Zapdos three times in a row.
That’s me
Reasons why I hate greninja
You could be team fighting and only enemy greninja is there but greninja is just op at unite move kill stealing
@@derekhansj Lucario and Greninja do need some nerfs, especially since Greninja is the best jg in the game and if they get ahead the game feels pretty impossible to win.
@@chadachi3970 yea it is just too fast and powerful, and it’s bulk is decent
There’s two spots I’m alright surrendering
1) we were losing and then lost Zapdos
2) the enemy team has snowballed to the point where they have such a level advantage that they can just camp your base. Like if they have third stage evolutions and our team is stuck at base form
Preach it brother PREACH IT nothing is more toxic than early game concedes
My team literally stopped playing before the middle of the round at least 4 minutes in.
So my team was:
Me: Cinderace level 11
Absol level 9
Snorlax level 6
Pikachu level 6
Venasaur level 7
The enemy team had: Zeraora, Alolan Ninetails, Venusaur, Cinderace, and Blissey every Pokémon except for Cinderace and Venasaur were at level 10/11 at that point.
It's so annoying when your team does that.
@@lifadysi9418 It was with Random people but yeah I was really angry at that point.
It also did not help that the Zeraora practically one shot our team with Discharge.
Even after the Blip you never gave up Ant Man! Yehaw good victory!
Haha
Blissy completely turns team fights even if you are under leveled. The attack and speed boosts are so good from helping hand and soft boiled I think is better than pollen puff for sure.
I was playing up way too late last night to secure Crustle on my wife's account, and I was joining in some early surrenders as a strategic move - I had to get her from level 7 to 13, and 100 points after 5 minutes is a better return than 150 after 10
It's the whole 20-80 principle, the laat 20% counts for 80% of the value.
I don’t surrender ever, yeah there are probably moments where they take zapdos that you were also losing your other objectives as well…but I still don’t, it’s just a minute or less at that point. Might as well play it out.
I played two ranked games last night that I thought we were gonna lose, but we stuck to it and got the W!
I just noticed my favorite *coughs* treasure hunter Locke on the wall behind him.
I love him
Mobile for Pokemon unite still the same as usual because most of my team that I joined don't even want to score a point and don't play teamfight. Some they like solo but feed to enemy so badly. Some love to ping but didn't do what objective he need to do. Is like literally player with primary school kid and make our rank drop so badly...
One of the best intros on youtube
Had a game where we’re super behind the first half, but our Ninetales had the great idea of sneaking into their jungle and stealing their farm. We managed to do this twice and ended up taking the Zapdos fight.
Shoutout to that Ninetales! I was a Crustle.
I have no friends so I only play in solo que and omg I can't stand people who try to surrender so early and just sit at base
Yo hit me up, what roles do you play? Favorite to least favorite: Support, tank, all rounder, attacker, speedster. Veteran 1
Yeah the sit at base make it suck for the entire team because then you know you ain't gonna push for the last 2 mins of the game
That one guy: we need to surrender
Me: bruh we haven't even got Zapdos yet 👀
What i learned from this video: Spragels likes to turn on soccer rabbits
The only reason I surrender early is cus I know my team is brain dead like never fighting on dread or stealing jungle, so i don’t feel like keep playing the match cus I know we gonna lose zaptos anyways
I only surrender if we lose all the upper and lower lanes before the 2 minute mark, or if we are losing and they get Zapdos. But Ive had 2 surrenders by my team even though we were not even down by that much. It was baffling!
I regret buying the BP since most of the matches I’ve played of recent boiled down to “oh drednaw spawned everyone in the match is gonna rush it” and then “oh you’re losing time for the enemy team to deal 5 damage to zapdos and steal the kill despite your team doing 99.999% of the damage and obliterate you” I surrender early because having to struggle to kill zapdos without the enemy team sniping it isn’t fun
You get a sub for that game. Well played sir
Thanks!
I tend to surrender if my team is no longer playing like a team and I'm no longer having fun. It doesn't matter if there is a chance my team makes 1 good play at the end to win the game if I felt like I was beating my head against the wall of 1v2s or 1v3s for 8 minutes.
I hate the surrender option, I have been in so many matches where people try to surrender but luckily more people choose not too and then we have gone on to win the match
Me: 80k until 100k
Content Cowboy: That would be wild!
Well it would be
I feel like this may be one of the most important pokemon unite videos. With how critical and overpowered zapdos and the last two minutes of the game are, i think it rarely makes sense to surrender
If you're nearly at the 8 minute mark, I agree.
But if you're 3 minutes in and are getting so outplayed it's not even fun? Even though it's possible to still win in the last 2, the 5 minutes of misery aren't worth it to me. This is a game. It's meant to be fun. Sure, we're all trying to win, but I don't want to be miserable in trying to.
Congrats on 20k!!
Thank you!
@@spragels np your vids are really helping me on the way to master! I’m in Veteran 1 rn
Love the point of this video! Didn't understand why you wouldn't hit Pikachu who had 40 balls, scoring at the second bottom goal while you were full health...
I get people that forfeit vote when we lose the first Dred fight. It's completely ridiculous, people should have more confidence in themselves and realize that every single fight isn't match-deciding. Just play well and you can almost always make a comeback
It's games like this though that annoys me you could be dominating the entire time but if the other team wins one fight at zapdos or steals zapdos it's over I dunno seems kinda cheap to me, glad you won though
Zapdos is the golden snitch! You can still win if the other team gets Zapdos, but usually it's not easy and not likely to happen. Best to go intercept them and try to KO/stall them.
It's funny this appeared in my recommendation literally after the team tried quitting so many times and winning cause of Zapdos
Love the summit ice gear.
I was playing a bunch of standard matches yesterday to just practice some guys and almost every single match people would either try to surrender or they would just leave.
When you're playing a scaling character and your team surrenders at 4 minutes when you're starting to power up................
Hi past self. It doesn't get any better, they still want to surrender as soon as they loose a goal instead of forming the catch up XP
Are you going to do more streams where you play with viewers?
For sure!
spragels :D thanks! Honestly love when youtubes do this!
I feel like it’s the best way to play on stream
@@spragels yeah better then playing alone!
I'm used to loosing alot...I'm support lmao People try to give up and it doesn't bother me at all. I'm going to see it to the end.