hey, can u explain me why is it bad? why people dont like when there are duplicate classes, like i am archer 23 with a juju but many people dont want to have 2 archers in the same party, even though its only floor 6.
@@ararinhaazul7Its way less important on lower floors, but it is just that the stat boosts and whatnot *aren't* doubled when there are dupes. The higher your class level, the bigger of a difference this doubling makes, so on f7 and beyond (and maybe f6 as well), it is a huge deal to try and minimize dupes, especially for super high dps classes like archer. At least for me (being a cata 33 player on f7), the only classes that dupes are generally fine with are mage and healer. With mage, you dont expressely need the intelligence boost that the class gives, and (as far as I know at least) healer doesnt give any particularly important stats. Every other class is either tank being you only want 1 or your dps will fall like crazy, and arch/bers being boosted very strongly by having the doubled stat boost and whatever for their passives.
For new players, berserker, tank and healer are probably the classes that are most beginner friendly. Archer is way too heavily contested and is strict on having a juju/terminator, and mage just has too low of ehp and is challenging to survive, not to mention the poor armor/weapon progression. On the other hand, berserker is relatively easy, fun and has all round purpose, Tank is cheap to get into and is very easy early on, and healer requires no specific gear at all, not to mention you’re a big help to your team at the same time. Wouldn’t recommend healer however, because before master mode it really doesn’t have a place in the meta. Berserker is my overall favorite, but it largely depends on playstyle preference.
At the end, in master mode it doesnt matter! The armor for all classes: necron with maxor boots + diamond head + term + gdrag!! only the m7 and m6 boss playstyle is different!!
rip true bers (i tried hard to play bers in master mode but in M6 true bers just becomes impossible because of a lack of dps in boss (more like term is overpowered ))
my suggestion? mage/bers from f1-f4, ranged bers on f5, tank on f6-f7. why tank in f6-f7? because A: you can buy a clear set so you aren't useless during clear B: you can use that clear set to switch between classes if there is a better tank in the party C: tanks are generally very high in demand for these floors, so a competent one is usually always accepted the only downside is needing more coins to buy a goldor set and learning tank and dps strats instead of just your necron which isn't much of a downside.
I can confirm and attest to this, since this is exactly what I have done since F5, all the way to being cata 33. I am a tank main, but I have the weapons to play any class but mage (though all im missing for mage is a hype). Because of this, it is insanely easy for me to enter basically any f7 parties since theyre all tank starved, and if there already happens to be a tank, I just immediately switch to another class that I can play. And for the price stuff, at least for me, I first bought semi-maxed out goldors, and then got a full set of maxors arnor since it was like 40m cheaper than necron's. If you dont have quite as much money, this would probably be a fairly good tradeoff for having significantly less dps, but also having to spend way less. And anyways, if you want to get a full set of necron's, you can always just convert your maxors into it like I did.
honestly for me healer is the funnest class because even tho im not in m7 yet, nearly all parties im in expect healer to predev which honestly is the highlight of the dungeon personally.
yeah, the classes still need some more balancing. I think healer's main abilities should be giving buffs instead of healing. And the way I think archer should be balanced is controversial, but I think they should fire less arrows, without sacrificing dps. Maybe by reworking doubleshot and nerfing bonus attack speed. Bows are supposed to be snipers after all, not machine guns.
i'd say archer works the best when moving into master mode, but can be decent outside of dungeons as well with even a clean terror armor (but it has to be terror armor or you're making archer do almost 4x less dps) bers just works for dungeons, but you'll need a completely different build when doing non-dungeon content like slayers, at least stuff like necron will work on revs and svens since crimson swipe doesn't affect these mage works best when moving outside of dungeons, however the best weapon set looks different outside and inside, ehp is also actually really good when you get refrigerate on your goggles, granting you +1000 defense. mage can also dominate normal dungeons way better than archer, but master mode becomes more scuffed until you get an LCM setup... also honestly when i used sceptre on f7, i really didn't find any issues as cata 30, so saying that hype is necessary is just bullcrap that party finder came up with
"hyp or term or else kick" usually those parties kick you because they're immediately assuming "no hyp = monkey" because people with hyp are generally more skilled I understand that there are terrible hypmages (me for example) and crack ass sceptre mages but they're ultimately a minority. If you see a hyp, you grab it and put it into your party.
@@the_real_skateboard nowadays i feel like it's quite the opposite If you have hype but like no runs, you're clearly just someone who rushed hype but got almost no skill... Then sceptre also has better ranged capabilities for p1-2 and mage does basically nothing for p3-4 anyways damage-wise when archer exists When i play f7, i literally use term more often than hype in the bossfight as a mage because hype isn't even useful there
@@lool8421 hyp is only good for clear, you clear insanely fast with a hyp (faster than anything else aside from crack ass sceptre mages using hyp for minis) that’s usually why mage does less damage based tasks (pads, crystals) cause archer just outclasses it in every way for damage
@duraglovergaming maybe, not really my thing so haven't bothered actually sweating, I'm just an average F7 hypemage or termarch 😂 but I might switch to bers 🤷🏼♀️
this is kinda off topic but the entire master mode really needs class rebalancing (how is it possible true bers isnt viable in M7) because its pretty stale right now
Mage is good as it is but there should be a budget hyperion that does like 1/5th of hyperion's damage so playing F7 as mage without hyperion isnt as hard and annoying as it is right now (maybe as a very rare soulbound scroll for the adaptive blade in M2 ) Bers should have a toggle to disable the weapon master perk against specific mobs When the toggle is on for that mob the weapon master perk frontal cone hits the mob If its turned off your hits will trigger fero but wont have the weapon master frontal cone Example : if you want fero against SA you turn off the toggle for sa if you want to have the weapon master frontal cone against like zombie soldiers then you need to turn on the toggle on zombie soldiers Tank should have more debuff items like Last breath so they can do more than just tanking Healer should be a healing class and buff the damage/ehp of their teammates I'm not sure how we can balance archer without doing a big nerf ok thats all i wanted to say
@@xillube_211 Black cat gives less speed than ammonite and also doesn't have defense. It gives intelligence, but I'm not mage so I don't need an extra +100 intel for clear.
@@AJgignac with maxors boots and tuning on speed (which u should be using as a tank in f7) u easily reach 350-400 spd at the start of the run, so ammonite 220 spd are completely useless, but with black cat, u can get to 500 spd which is 100 more than what ammonite is capped to
yooo what do i do someone bought my melon seeds for 100mil i was watching ur skyblock 101 and dont wanna get bored because i got money too easy and i like the early game also people say i will get banned for irl trading should i keep it or no
no, archer does more dps than mage and bers together, its why typical split in m7 p5 is arch + tank kill one drag when bers + mage + healer kill the other
I true bers, when i clear i just hold down left click on the ground while running and holsing my gs, its mich easier than spam clicking cuz of bers swing range perk or whatever its called
:( you forgot my wappon for bezerker i persenaly use cleaver because it cleaves after your alrady cleaver enchant end the easy hit tecnice cald holding leftclick whill looking at the floor
OK CHAT PLEASE get atleast 800 mp before m3/m4 and ATLEAST 1000 before m6 You can use this SAME mp for m7 if you play support classes but for bers mage and arch grind towards maxed mp :D
@@wolfmastergamer5559 Again you will get outdpsed so very easily and there is no such thing as a "problem" its just WAY better and mp is the most important thing
@@ggg-pn8zi you shouldnt take damage often enough as an arch to lose hp bone plating will do all the work, Bers will still take damage not a lot but still
always start with healer you dont die and can revive others u literally just play as other classes but u get useful abilities and all you need is a crystalized heart this is easily the easiest way to start ngl
I believe healer is the best class. i run ghead, necron and maxor armour. I believe is one of the best classes to play due to no one playing it. with a high cata you one tap anyways so for me to play archer is unnecessary. Every party i join appreciate me letting them solo their class. and like i said being able to get into almost every single party is a high plus for the class. but i wont argue that the class it self is weak. but every other pro outweigh this con in my opinion.
@@kingeilon me when im cata 51 and tank 47, hence why i said "90% of bossfights" and not all (and im literally one of the tanks in the m7 clips in the vid :sob:)
o bossfightS thats kinda not true tho cuz ppl do way more f7 and m7 than other floors, u cant count f1 in that and tank doesn't afk in actual m7 (maybe b4 bers i4ed you could have a point)
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Oops I accidentally used a Crimson Armor render instead of a Necron one in one of the clips.
o7
Video is ruined
skill issue
Its ok
"screw you I'm gonna go arch"
-cata 16 juju non
hey, can u explain me why is it bad? why people dont like when there are duplicate classes, like i am archer 23 with a juju but many people dont want to have 2 archers in the same party, even though its only floor 6.
@@ararinhaazul7stacking classes reduces the passives and buffs for that class
@@bored-asf just that? i thought it was something else, like its literally floor 6, that shouldn't matter much. thank you for the reply
@@ararinhaazul7 Im pretty sure if theres a solo archer it buffs it by like 50% so its a decent bit
@@ararinhaazul7Its way less important on lower floors, but it is just that the stat boosts and whatnot *aren't* doubled when there are dupes. The higher your class level, the bigger of a difference this doubling makes, so on f7 and beyond (and maybe f6 as well), it is a huge deal to try and minimize dupes, especially for super high dps classes like archer.
At least for me (being a cata 33 player on f7), the only classes that dupes are generally fine with are mage and healer. With mage, you dont expressely need the intelligence boost that the class gives, and (as far as I know at least) healer doesnt give any particularly important stats. Every other class is either tank being you only want 1 or your dps will fall like crazy, and arch/bers being boosted very strongly by having the doubled stat boost and whatever for their passives.
For new players, berserker, tank and healer are probably the classes that are most beginner friendly.
Archer is way too heavily contested and is strict on having a juju/terminator,
and mage just has too low of ehp and is challenging to survive, not to mention the poor armor/weapon progression.
On the other hand, berserker is relatively easy, fun and has all round purpose,
Tank is cheap to get into and is very easy early on,
and healer requires no specific gear at all, not to mention you’re a big help to your team at the same time.
Wouldn’t recommend healer however, because before master mode it really doesn’t have a place in the meta. Berserker is my overall favorite, but it largely depends on playstyle preference.
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Kev: mentions necron
video: *shows furfsky texture for crimson chestplate*
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@@GoodGuyKev oops lol, didn’t see that
At the end, in master mode it doesnt matter! The armor for all classes: necron with maxor boots + diamond head + term + gdrag!! only the m7 and m6 boss playstyle is different!!
1) mage never uses necron or maxor
2) it does matter, if your gear is garbage no point in even trying bers/arch
real
Mage and tank use different gear
@@kavinvenkatesh1581 tank just swaps out the diamond head for masks & uses a yeti rather than a gdrag
rip true bers (i tried hard to play bers in master mode but in M6 true bers just becomes impossible because of a lack of dps in boss (more like term is overpowered ))
my suggestion?
mage/bers from f1-f4, ranged bers on f5, tank on f6-f7.
why tank in f6-f7? because
A: you can buy a clear set so you aren't useless during clear
B: you can use that clear set to switch between classes if there is a better tank in the party
C: tanks are generally very high in demand for these floors, so a competent one is usually always accepted
the only downside is needing more coins to buy a goldor set and learning tank and dps strats instead of just your necron which isn't much of a downside.
I can confirm and attest to this, since this is exactly what I have done since F5, all the way to being cata 33. I am a tank main, but I have the weapons to play any class but mage (though all im missing for mage is a hype). Because of this, it is insanely easy for me to enter basically any f7 parties since theyre all tank starved, and if there already happens to be a tank, I just immediately switch to another class that I can play.
And for the price stuff, at least for me, I first bought semi-maxed out goldors, and then got a full set of maxors arnor since it was like 40m cheaper than necron's. If you dont have quite as much money, this would probably be a fairly good tradeoff for having significantly less dps, but also having to spend way less. And anyways, if you want to get a full set of necron's, you can always just convert your maxors into it like I did.
tank is f7 is useless
@@mousepuncher118 -cata 41 who does to lava damage
play with better people then😮
@@mousepuncher118 go back to m7
honestly for me healer is the funnest class because even tho im not in m7 yet, nearly all parties im in expect healer to predev which honestly is the highlight of the dungeon personally.
f7 predevice goes so hard (your teammates won't leap anyway)
yeah, the classes still need some more balancing. I think healer's main abilities should be giving buffs instead of healing. And the way I think archer should be balanced is controversial, but I think they should fire less arrows, without sacrificing dps. Maybe by reworking doubleshot and nerfing bonus attack speed. Bows are supposed to be snipers after all, not machine guns.
i'd say archer works the best when moving into master mode, but can be decent outside of dungeons as well with even a clean terror armor (but it has to be terror armor or you're making archer do almost 4x less dps)
bers just works for dungeons, but you'll need a completely different build when doing non-dungeon content like slayers, at least stuff like necron will work on revs and svens since crimson swipe doesn't affect these
mage works best when moving outside of dungeons, however the best weapon set looks different outside and inside, ehp is also actually really good when you get refrigerate on your goggles, granting you +1000 defense. mage can also dominate normal dungeons way better than archer, but master mode becomes more scuffed until you get an LCM setup... also honestly when i used sceptre on f7, i really didn't find any issues as cata 30, so saying that hype is necessary is just bullcrap that party finder came up with
"hyp or term or else kick" usually those parties kick you because they're immediately assuming "no hyp = monkey" because people with hyp are generally more skilled
I understand that there are terrible hypmages (me for example) and crack ass sceptre mages but they're ultimately a minority. If you see a hyp, you grab it and put it into your party.
@@the_real_skateboard nowadays i feel like it's quite the opposite
If you have hype but like no runs, you're clearly just someone who rushed hype but got almost no skill... Then sceptre also has better ranged capabilities for p1-2 and mage does basically nothing for p3-4 anyways damage-wise when archer exists
When i play f7, i literally use term more often than hype in the bossfight as a mage because hype isn't even useful there
@@lool8421 hyp is only good for clear, you clear insanely fast with a hyp (faster than anything else aside from crack ass sceptre mages using hyp for minis)
that’s usually why mage does less damage based tasks (pads, crystals) cause archer just outclasses it in every way for damage
is that stretch res with archer
as a dungeon hater that has to start grinding for sb exp, I needed this.. thank you :D
@duraglovergaming maybe, not really my thing so haven't bothered actually sweating, I'm just an average F7 hypemage or termarch 😂 but I might switch to bers 🤷🏼♀️
@duraglovergamingskyblock players when a different opinion(clearly they’re just bad)
Ill listen to your yap once i finish maxing all the slayers and bestiary milestones thanks bro
Soo close to 30k
And one of the most deserving
this is kinda off topic but the entire master mode really needs class rebalancing (how is it possible true bers isnt viable in M7)
because its pretty stale right now
Mage is good as it is but there should be a budget hyperion that does like 1/5th of hyperion's damage so playing F7 as mage without hyperion isnt as hard and annoying as it is right now (maybe as a very rare soulbound scroll for the adaptive blade in M2 )
Bers should have a toggle to disable the weapon master perk against specific mobs
When the toggle is on for that mob the weapon master perk frontal cone hits the mob
If its turned off your hits will trigger fero but wont have the weapon master frontal cone
Example : if you want fero against SA you turn off the toggle for sa
if you want to have the weapon master frontal cone against like zombie soldiers then you need to turn on the toggle on zombie soldiers
Tank should have more debuff items like Last breath so they can do more than just tanking
Healer should be a healing class and buff the damage/ehp of their teammates
I'm not sure how we can balance archer without doing a big nerf
ok thats all i wanted to say
You cooked
When I intend on beating m7 with 5 mages, I’m going to op to play as a necron mage.
Goodguykev more like goatguykev love your content keep it up❤ btw pls ask powerplanter when upload
What texture pack are u using
as a healer i can say that healer is a good class
What mod do you use
what do yall think is the best class overall
Something I like doing as a tank is using ammonite pet for clear and the f7 boss because of the speed and defense (would not recommend in master mode)
ammonite ??? bro if u want speed get a black cat or smth
@@xillube_211 Black cat gives less speed than ammonite and also doesn't have defense. It gives intelligence, but I'm not mage so I don't need an extra +100 intel for clear.
@@AJgignac with maxors boots and tuning on speed (which u should be using as a tank in f7) u easily reach 350-400 spd at the start of the run, so ammonite 220 spd are completely useless, but with black cat, u can get to 500 spd which is 100 more than what ammonite is capped to
@@xillube_211 Ok. Cool.
Oh, just asking, I wonder when goodguykev is going to get a chimera V hype?
yooo what do i do someone bought my melon seeds for 100mil i was watching ur skyblock 101 and dont wanna get bored because i got money too easy and i like the early game also people say i will get banned for irl trading should i keep it or no
if you don't want to keep the money, don't, but you shouldn't get banned anyway its only a 100m
Does an AOTS or Soul Whip still aggro bosses? I'm receiving mixed comments.
in f7 its proximity based so no but in m7 it aggros
what mod turns your damage numbers shorter
kev is powerliner alive
Mage class is the main dps class in m7 no? Then archer and after that bers
no, archer does more dps than mage and bers together, its why typical split in m7 p5 is arch + tank kill one drag when bers + mage + healer kill the other
when i play archer i play with dragon shortbow 😢 cause ain't non YET
what texture pack is he using?
furfsky reborn
I think I'll stick with ranged berserker, since I'm not very good at this game 😅
Where’s the enrager mention for tank… (I’m coping so hard)
I true bers, when i clear i just hold down left click on the ground while running and holsing my gs, its mich easier than spam clicking cuz of bers swing range perk or whatever its called
:( you forgot my wappon for bezerker i persenaly use cleaver because it cleaves after your alrady cleaver enchant end the easy hit tecnice cald holding leftclick whill looking at the floor
im a healer main because I am broke and it doesn't matter whether or not I have a term because my dps is already completely cosmetic :D
OK CHAT PLEASE get atleast 800 mp before m3/m4 and ATLEAST 1000 before m6 You can use this SAME mp for m7 if you play support classes but for bers mage and arch grind towards maxed mp :D
not needed. I’m rocking ~860mp in m6 and have no problem (yes i do plan on upping it for m7 tho)
@@wolfmastergamer5559 Again you will get outdpsed so very easily and there is no such thing as a "problem" its just WAY better and mp is the most important thing
Will there ever be a catacombs rebalance to make all classes usefull and have gear of their own is the true question
No.
@@GoodGuyKev ok so now i know that the closest thing ever to bers is mage (in master mode)
“although it doesnt have added survivability like the berserker” bro forgot about bone plating 💀💀💀
Syphon:
Yeah but it can't compare to the berserk's ability
@@ggg-pn8zi you shouldnt take damage often enough as an arch to lose hp bone plating will do all the work, Bers will still take damage not a lot but still
@@noyes8848 yeah you're true and most of the Time thé archer is the closest one to the tank anyways in bossfight
bone plating saves my ass in trap way too often
Necron tank doesnt give less ehp than goldor tank (atleast if you have good enough stats like cata 50)
with dia head yea, but if u use dia head w necron, its like using a reaper mask w goldor which gives a lot of healing
6:58 why is the fov so high💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
always start with healer you dont die and can revive others u literally just play as other classes but u get useful abilities and all you need is a crystalized heart this is easily the easiest way to start ngl
I believe healer is the best class. i run ghead, necron and maxor armour. I believe is one of the best classes to play due to no one playing it. with a high cata you one tap anyways so for me to play archer is unnecessary. Every party i join appreciate me letting them solo their class. and like i said being able to get into almost every single party is a high plus for the class. but i wont argue that the class it self is weak. but every other pro outweigh this con in my opinion.
Gear guide would be very helpful
MAGEEEEE YIPPEE
Mage Gang
necron tanking is pretty usless since ur dmg dosent matter
necron tanking is not useless
1. no need to buy tank set
2. more consistent aggro due to higher damage
@@dababyglizzygawkgawk yup a tank set is really expensive!!
@@mousepuncher118 are you stupid
Great vid, although this guide rly only seems to be made for late game and my mid game players, and isnt very beginner friendly. Great vid tho
I'm ironman and not have better choice than go with FB and Juju shortbow before I get Hyperion from F7
We are knows that tanks are just chads.... Goldor chads ;)
Greetings to the all tanks!
Where is powliner
Tank is so chill tho, you literally afk like 90% of bossfights
inb4 u discover m7
@@kingeilon me when im cata 51 and tank 47, hence why i said "90% of bossfights" and not all (and im literally one of the tanks in the m7 clips in the vid :sob:)
o bossfightS thats kinda not true tho cuz ppl do way more f7 and m7 than other floors, u cant count f1 in that and tank doesn't afk in actual m7 (maybe b4 bers i4ed you could have a point)
@@kingeilon talking about bossfights i was including every floor from f/m1-7 so yea
dawg u gotta increase that fov
when is next skyblock 101 bro
101 years
Bread
No matter what this guy says, you should either play them all or play mining.
Healer here, thank you for dissing the hardest class to play in the game (for f7)
pd isnt hard
also why tf are u playing healer in f7 ur getting close to 0 xp
ARCHER 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
I was 59 seconds late, sorry
SMH
And somehow I became a rcm bers
RUclips rank when?
darry
holy bro
ONLY ARCHER AND TANK
W video
ok
Bro big fan can I pls get a300m loan I'm so close to hype
Blah
imagine using fot in 2024 💀
Not everyone is dungeons sweat and knows what is better to use and when
its better than aspect of the dragons for mage
@@Just.A.Bottle.Of.Milk- who uses aotd as a mage
@@MapleMonke in lower levels they do, for lcm and for the right click ability its pretty decent