The Dark Philosophy of Cormac McCarthy

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  • @epochphilosophy
    @epochphilosophy  6 месяцев назад +38

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  • @ramonalejandrosuare
    @ramonalejandrosuare 6 месяцев назад +342

    The Road is basically the final dream in No Country For Old Men put to a more literal and extensive narrative - the father carries the flame and passes it on to his son.

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  6 месяцев назад +50

      Damn man, a solid interpretation I never quite pinned together.

    • @ramonalejandrosuare
      @ramonalejandrosuare 6 месяцев назад +33

      Neither did I until I saw your video. But it makes sense in light of your analysis. In this way, The Road is the thematic sequel to NCFOM just as much as NCFOM is a thematic sequel to Blood Meridian. It's a progression that runs from the frontier West (BM) to the civilized West (NCFOM) to a world where there is no frontier or civilization (Road). I'm now convinced that The Road isn't an apocalyptic story, not in a literal sense. It's an attempt to strip down and distill McCarthy's philosophy about human frailty to a barebones setting without the past or present to weight it down. Just a father and son trying to make sense of the evil in a world full of nothing but evil. @@epochphilosophy

    • @VerMirror
      @VerMirror 6 месяцев назад +12

      Yes. Exactly.
      Do you carry the fire?

    • @ThePaintballer1994
      @ThePaintballer1994 5 месяцев назад +5

      Oh shit… OH. SHIT.

    • @Find-Your-Bliss-
      @Find-Your-Bliss- 5 месяцев назад +2

      Very astute reflection!

  • @evenings.6170
    @evenings.6170 6 месяцев назад +428

    1:25 is the beginning

    • @Henry-kv7zl
      @Henry-kv7zl 5 месяцев назад +22

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      @@Henry-kv7zl that would be okay with only side banners with no sound like before...

    • @Henry-kv7zl
      @Henry-kv7zl 5 месяцев назад +18

      @@snorriivan6365 honestly man it's free content with entirely skippable ads. There is necessarily an economy to entertainment. This is a very consumer friendly version.

    • @ercarter
      @ercarter 5 месяцев назад +3

      6:28 is even beginninger

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  3 месяца назад +49

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  • @ReynaSingh
    @ReynaSingh 6 месяцев назад +173

    McCarthy is very skilled at forcing us to confront the depravity that resides at the core of humanity. But he does so without preaching. His writing is subtle enough to lead the reader to their own conclusion, but still it is a conclusion that McCarthy points us toward

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  6 месяцев назад +13

      Absolutely wonderful description around the best part of McCarthy.

    • @ahobimo732
      @ahobimo732 6 месяцев назад +10

      Our capacity for violence and cruelty is just the reflection of our capacity for suffering.
      We are blood that flows from dust to dust.

    • @PopularDemand1000
      @PopularDemand1000 5 месяцев назад +3

      But is this the right conclusion? It seemed to be for McCarthy. Will that conclusion alleviate anyone’s suffering?

    • @Nefylym
      @Nefylym 4 месяца назад +3

      @@PopularDemand1000 I think Cormac's whole point and indeed his exsitence was born of suffering to bear suffering and to then one day end in suffering. The guy lived on beans and coffee in a shack, deferring certain riches out of seeming spite of them. He strikes me as a man whom the world had betrayed and he wanted no further part of it. I can relate to that a lot.

    • @tubsy.
      @tubsy. 3 месяца назад

      It's obvious, you don't need a book to tell you that. I mean...evolved animals don't tend to act like saints. So funny that people say they believe in Evolution and then act surprised when animals actually behave like animals.

  • @Gary-zq3pz
    @Gary-zq3pz 6 месяцев назад +125

    The Road is one of those movies you only watch once. You don't forget it.

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  6 месяцев назад +22

      Pretty much my main takeaway when I first watched it.

    • @gregbors8364
      @gregbors8364 5 месяцев назад +8

      Same with the book.

    • @1331423
      @1331423 5 месяцев назад +7

      ​@@gregbors8364 i dunno. I've read it three times with years inbetween and it crushes me in a different way each time

    • @TeChNoWC7
      @TeChNoWC7 5 месяцев назад +1

      I’ve watched it like 5 or 6 times lol

    • @LD-qj2te
      @LD-qj2te 5 месяцев назад +6

      I read the book and it almost killed me . Much of the dialogue is similar to language between me and my son . This combined with the movie depressed me too much

  • @TempehLiberation
    @TempehLiberation 5 месяцев назад +52

    “You think when you wake up in the mornin yesterday dont count. But yesterday is all that does count. What else is there? Your life is made out of the days it's made out of. Nothin else. You might think you could run away and change your name and I dont know what all. Start over. And then one mornin you wake up and look at the ceiling and guess who's layin there?”
    ― Cormac McCarthy, No Country for Old Men

    • @ronlipsius
      @ronlipsius 4 месяца назад +1

      That means that every day is another chance… to get it right.

    • @hotstixx
      @hotstixx 2 месяца назад

      ​@ronlipsius
      No.We are besieged by bigger problems than those we can surmount on a daily basis.McCarthys point is actually kinda banal but at bottom lies malaise and alienation.Theres little to nothing left in Mc Cathy's guts,in the pit of his belly.Theres no real fight,just the hollow drone of instinctual residue and that which cannot be entertained.Its Samuel Beckett,it's Hunter Thompsons suicide letter,it's the brighton beach carny in winter.Mc Cathy's too aware of his surroundings and himself..there's no escape.

    • @Faus4us_Official
      @Faus4us_Official 2 месяца назад +1

      Thankfully, I'm not the same person I was yesterday.

  • @A.Mardle
    @A.Mardle 2 месяца назад +10

    McCarthy never tried to please anybody. His attitude was "This is my work: take it or leave it ". That fundamental indifference to criticism and the literary world set him apart and helped to make him a great writer.

  • @gunsgalore7571
    @gunsgalore7571 5 месяцев назад +59

    I've always found McCarthy to be something of a pessimistic optimist. What do I mean by that? Pessimistic because he always looks at the worst side of humanity. But optimistic because he doesn't let it make him lose his faith. Now, I've only read three of his works (No Country for Old Men, The Road, and All the Pretty Horses). After reading all of them, I was always a little shaken. But I've always recognized his fundamental message: Right is still right, and wrong is still wrong. No matter how much you try to delude yourself.

    • @Nefylym
      @Nefylym 4 месяца назад +7

      Well said: the right and the just can make this world blossom, but the wrong and the criminal will make it wither. It's up to us as the gardner of our plot to tend that land and carry the fire.

    • @oneoflokis
      @oneoflokis 4 месяца назад

      He must be fundamentally a religious writer then... Maybe that was his problem! 😏

    • @ronlipsius
      @ronlipsius 4 месяца назад +3

      @@oneoflokisMaybe you should think again, non-superficially.

    • @ronlipsius
      @ronlipsius 4 месяца назад +1

      Why use categories unnecessarily? You could just say that he’s a realist.

    • @oneoflokis
      @oneoflokis 4 месяца назад

      @ronlipsius How so? I don't like pessimists, curmudgeons and misanthropists.

  • @WisecrackEDU
    @WisecrackEDU 6 месяцев назад +168

    The world needed this video. Thanks for making it.

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  6 месяцев назад +10

      Love to you all always. Thanks so much!

    • @theulfhednar3915
      @theulfhednar3915 4 месяца назад +1

      Wisecrack, i love your videos too.

    • @ronlipsius
      @ronlipsius 4 месяца назад

      Yeah, you and your world. Glad I’m not there.

  • @johnhammer2982
    @johnhammer2982 5 месяцев назад +58

    I've read a lot of books, but "Blood Meridian" is in a class all its own. Nothing else like it. Amazing and haunting.

    • @bluegregory6239
      @bluegregory6239 2 месяца назад

      The best book ever written in English or any other language by any author.

  • @ShadowedAgony
    @ShadowedAgony 5 месяцев назад +39

    You're a real one for using Richard Poe's audiobook version. The perfect book awaiting it's perfect orator.

  • @rainereece5640
    @rainereece5640 6 месяцев назад +40

    Right from page 1 of a Cormac novel, you immediately sense how the air is thin, the ground uneven & emotions - all dehydrated & packed away till The End. As a closet poet , he's like a mentor to me. A scary one tho 😮
    Thank you for great video!

    • @Acarrdi
      @Acarrdi 6 месяцев назад

      Do you use & in your poetry?

    • @rainereece5640
      @rainereece5640 5 месяцев назад +3

      No, I just bow down to his acute diction, his flow & his unnerving ability to stare down reality😅 !

    • @Jordan_Clark
      @Jordan_Clark 4 месяца назад

      Hello, would you like to speak about writing. I'm a writer and do write poetry, I'm keen to find people who write so as to further myself. My name is Jordan, I'm from Scotland, writing allows for my sufferance of life's myriad of tests.

  • @thevoiceofthelost
    @thevoiceofthelost 4 месяца назад +13

    Blood Meridian is the anthropocentric counterpart to Lovecraft's Cosmic horror. It makes our heart of darkness, our wars, our petty wickedness and conflicts just as horrifying as an uncaring cosmos inhabitated by any manner of twisted unknown entities could be.
    "The wraith of God lies sleeping. It was here for a million years before men were, and only men have the power to wake it.."
    I'm pleasantly surprised to see you cover McCarthy.

  • @user-xj5ft4sj6v
    @user-xj5ft4sj6v 6 месяцев назад +73

    Hobbes was writing in the 17th century not the 15th. He published Leviathan in 1651. I am mentioning it because as you said the historical context is key, and he was writing following the aftermath of the internecine conflicts that plagued the 17th century such as the English Civil War.

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  5 месяцев назад +12

      Yup, that is correct. Totally misspoke on the century he resided in!

    • @user-xj5ft4sj6v
      @user-xj5ft4sj6v 5 месяцев назад +13

      No worries. I only pointed out because it makes your arguments even more pertinent. The massacres described in Blood Meridian can be compared to what was happening in Europe at the time Hobbes was writing. I really enjoyed your analysis.

    • @ronlipsius
      @ronlipsius 4 месяца назад +2

      @@epochphilosophyThe proper English is - “in which he resided (or did reside)”. Also that is not what Nietzsche was getting at with “eternal recurrence”, and invoking the crackpot Foucault is not a good move.

    • @rightsaidfred8945
      @rightsaidfred8945 3 месяца назад +4

      He even got the most famous quote wrong. Then casually moving into Nietzsche who is incompatible with Hobbes. This video is a good example of nowadays liberal arts education

  • @shane505
    @shane505 5 месяцев назад +30

    Suttree is such an overlooked masterpiece.

    • @Saygoodbye130
      @Saygoodbye130 4 месяца назад +4

      Favorite

    • @bluegregory6239
      @bluegregory6239 2 месяца назад +2

      I recently reread it and realized that it was his second greatest work after Blood Meridian.

  • @drunkvador
    @drunkvador 5 месяцев назад +43

    Once I hit the part of the book where the judge makes gunpowder from raw materials and the surprise and ambush the natives that are following them. They are all out of powder and resigned to death and he is like a god in that moment. Directing them to find the materials and orchestrating the synthesis of black powder while standing naked on top of a mountain, lightning in the backround. What a scene
    I can’t wait for the unfilmable movie I think they should cast me as the kid

    • @Lenn869
      @Lenn869 5 месяцев назад +8

      i want to be the first one to tell you that the scene is a reference to the beginning of Paradise Lost

    • @Nefylym
      @Nefylym 4 месяца назад +2

      @@Lenn869 Certainly has a Promethean quality to it!

  • @justinratcliffe947
    @justinratcliffe947 4 месяца назад +7

    Cormac McCarthy. The one author who could make people even much more scarier and much more hellishly terrifying villains than non human villains in fiction like ghosts, goblins, vampires, werewolves, zombies, demons, aliens, A.I., mutants, killer animals and other non human antagonists. He also showed just how much country life can be every bit as scary and dangerous as city life.

  • @BlueBEAZY45
    @BlueBEAZY45 3 месяца назад +5

    I absolutely adore McCarthy’s writing style, I know a lot of people criticize it for its lack punctuation. But the way he writes is so deeply poetic and beautiful I can’t help but love it as a poetry lover myself.

  • @HIMMBelljuvo
    @HIMMBelljuvo 6 месяцев назад +51

    Damn. That Tommy Lee Jones performance gave me the chills. I forgot how good that movie was. Need to watch it again

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  6 месяцев назад +6

      An incredible scene that has stuck with me through the years.

    • @mj2495
      @mj2495 6 месяцев назад +5

      It seems the gods themselves cast Tommy Lee Jones for the role of Sheriff Bell. Perfection in his recollection of his mysterious and ominous dream.

    • @buckyhate7695
      @buckyhate7695 5 месяцев назад +1

      Watch The Sunset Limited - another McCarthy gem.Both Tommy Lee Jones and Samuel Jackson are brilliant in it.

    • @Nefylym
      @Nefylym 4 месяца назад +1

      @@buckyhate7695 Thank you for that, I am only now realizing how many movies have been made out of his books.

  • @OzDoll
    @OzDoll 5 месяцев назад +6

    McCarthy is probably the epitome of American literature, one of the few that held no punches back to tell the tale, as he wanted, uncompromised. You did it justice with your video, fantastic :) you got a new fan.

  • @basementmadetapes
    @basementmadetapes 6 месяцев назад +9

    Great video man. His work is so immense and dense, and nothing if not daunting. He’s my favourite author too. And was once upon a time when I was gonna untangle his theology from his texts for an honours project at uni but life didn’t allow for it. But here u are doing something similar. Respect

  • @gregbors8364
    @gregbors8364 5 месяцев назад +30

    “Blood Meridian” is now being made into a movie by the director of “The Road”

    • @dianal.clausen8118
      @dianal.clausen8118 5 месяцев назад +26

      I won't go see the movie, if it ever comes out. Blood Meridian lives in my being and I refuse to allow anyone else's vision touch where I he characters live in my mind's eye.

    • @uniquechannelnames
      @uniquechannelnames 5 месяцев назад +7

      Same here. I find it unfilmable and so much would be lost by the impossibility of adapting so many things. Also the violence is so gut-wrenching (as it's supposed to be) and horrid and in your face that any Hollywood adaptation could never do it any part of the book justice

    • @erichaynes5826
      @erichaynes5826 5 месяцев назад +11

      Many people have tried to make it. I’ll believe it when i see it. Denis Villeneuve or the Cohen brothers could make this movie

    • @olih27
      @olih27 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@erichaynes5826Not sure I want anyone to make the movie, but Denis is the only filmmaker I'd trust to try

    • @stephenholloway9395
      @stephenholloway9395 3 месяца назад

      plus the proposition which in its own right is one the best modern westerns, it could not be in better hands

  • @HEWhitney1
    @HEWhitney1 6 месяцев назад +26

    Being a western geologist and grandson of a Nevada mining engineer and great-grandson of a Montana Forester I know exactly what McCarthy is saying. He is describing the lives of generations of men exploring and exploiting the land.
    It describes a myriad of activities. The most obvious to me is the Discovery and exploitation of petroleum. First you have the exploration crews who drill the holes by striking their steel against The Rock to create fire from the Earth. They are followed by production crews who collect the petroleum which in a real sense are bones. Finally there are the people that do not make the holes or gather the bones or even look for the bones they are there to build the houses and stores, open the schools and whore houses all in service to the ones who make the holes and collect the bones. Drilling for oil, digging for coal, gold, silver, lead and copper. Drilling holes for water in the desert
    And in my case literally drilling holes for pollution and then collecting those bones of long dead industrial practices so that those who don't seek or collect can build expensive condominiums for the non-seekers to thrive on top of the graves of industry past. And the drillers and The seekers of Bones and collectors of Bones have all moved on to the ends of the Earth until they themselves are bones.

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  6 месяцев назад +3

      Yup. Violence qua violence. I see The Judge as an almost religious like character to the power and all consuming force of industry and modernity.

    • @HEWhitney1
      @HEWhitney1 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@epochphilosophyLed Zeppelin's The Immigrant Song and Pink Floyd's Welcome to the Machine both deal with the dark underbelly of Western expansion. Also Smedley Butler's book War is a Racket. It's in our DNA, so we don't see it, like the air we breath.
      Your channel is off the hook. Just found it . I've got a lot to catch up on.

    • @Nefylym
      @Nefylym 4 месяца назад

      @@HEWhitney1 Learning so much here, thanks fellas!

    • @ronlipsius
      @ronlipsius 4 месяца назад

      Nice.

  • @azulceleste7202
    @azulceleste7202 6 месяцев назад +10

    Thank you for this great video on my favourite writer.
    Despite a vague feeling of superficiality that you address, I think you make some great points and are able to point to an actual existing thread that does unite McCarthy's novels. And that is saying a lot.
    Watching your video I meditated about how The Road argues that, fallen the Leviathan, the violent state of nature will reconquer the world. And yet, this time he envisions the power of the human spirit to keep fighting against the " absolute truth of the world". Carrying the fire despite the absurdity of it all (is it too obvious that The Road is my favourite novel?).
    McCarthy, what a writer.

  • @cheri238
    @cheri238 5 месяцев назад +2

    Professor Harold Bloom, Trinity Dwight College Yale University.
    What an inspiration, all his books and lectures of "How to Read and Why."
    Cormac McCarthy is one of my favorite writers. None is greater than " Blood Merridian."
    Thankfully, Edgar Allen Poe, who knew suffering as a child of being abandoned throughout his life, the losses of those he had loved and alcoholism, became after being betrayed and his suspicious death became one of America's greatest writers. He inspired and created a new genre of writers in America.
    He did not get the acclaim he desired while he was alive.
    Unfortunately, this is true in all creative arts.
    Thank you for this.

  • @davidw4987
    @davidw4987 2 месяца назад +1

    To me The Road was, more than anything, about bringing up children - teaching them how to handle a violent and uncaring world. The post apocalyptic setting of The Road just brings into sharper focus the challenges of guiding children in the vicissitudes of life. I think that McCarthy saw the post apocalyptic setting as what already exists under the veneer of our world.

  • @PrisonMike-_-
    @PrisonMike-_- 6 месяцев назад +2

    A couple of things: 1. Bobby was not a Vietnam veteran. There’s the extensive conversation he has with Sheddan about Sheddan’s experiences in Vietnam and is now fascinated by the gruesome violence.
    2. Personally I have never heard a single person speak of Suttree as his magnum opus. Blood Meridian at this time in history is certainly considered his magnum opus, as the ocean of dude bro lit guys are drawing the public’s attention back to the more demonstrative excitements of the novel and in essence underpin and disregard the exceptionally post modern view the novel proposes.
    That’s all. I’ll come off my high horse. Loved your video!!

    • @bananaboy2012
      @bananaboy2012 3 месяца назад

      was looking for this comment, I thought I missed something in The Passenger, Bobby was truly just listening to how it was to be a chopper gunner :D I agree, great video

  • @patternsofdisorder1695
    @patternsofdisorder1695 5 месяцев назад +3

    Great video, very nicely put together and touching on one of the absolute core themes of McCarthy. Suttree may be one of the most organic, interconnected works of storytelling ever put to paper. I think Outer Dark deserves a mention as an abstract blueprint for the themes explored in Blood Meridian, as well as a wonderfully dark fairy tale that’s perfectly compose.
    If I may, I’d recommend “Cormac McCarthy: An American Apocalypse” as a very recent study. The author also explores the McCarthyean theme of violence to a level I have not read elsewhere, but apart from philosophy and mysticism, also connects it to the work of myth, McCarthy’s interest in science (particularly entropy), the weight of Christianity (and its failure) in his work, and relates it all through McCarthy’s idea of the novel. I think you might dig it.

  • @patrickedwards7107
    @patrickedwards7107 5 месяцев назад +2

    The road is a book that deeply impacted me I came away different after the closing lines.

  • @andie599
    @andie599 5 месяцев назад +3

    I have put off reading blood meridian for years, but I think I’m gonna pick it up today after watching this video.

  • @azturazarius-pu8mx
    @azturazarius-pu8mx 2 месяца назад +1

    Great video-I never considered his work as being a kind of parallel to Foucault’s.
    One small correction: Bobby never fought in Nam. He presses his friend Oiler early on in the book for war stories. He did race cars in Europe until he ended up in a coma, however, and this does invoke a similar death drive that threads throughout the novel.
    Thanks for all the food for thought!

  • @buckyhate7695
    @buckyhate7695 5 месяцев назад +2

    I became aware of McCarthy via The Sunset Limited. I saw the HBO film (also starring Tommy Lee Jones), then read he play. I don't necessarily have a "favorite author", but McCarthy is right at the top of the list.
    Excellent video, Sir. Well done

  • @mj2495
    @mj2495 5 месяцев назад +10

    I will have to read Hobbs again. It's been a long time since I read Leviathan, and all I can recall at this late date is he was not an advocate for liberal democracy, but a monarchist. And that implied to me a man living in great fear.

  • @Justpassingby204
    @Justpassingby204 5 месяцев назад +3

    reading blood meridian right now, this arrived on my feed at the right time

  • @davidas5049
    @davidas5049 6 месяцев назад +13

    Disco elysium poster in the background... i see, a man of culture ;) :D

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  6 месяцев назад +5

      One of the greatest works of art ever made!

  • @user-qf1xm4ix7e
    @user-qf1xm4ix7e 5 месяцев назад +3

    Blood meridian really messed with my head with its ceaseless, sleepless evil. I remember the part where they raided that innocent village and there were depictions of baby murder, rape, and scalping(of course), not even in a climactic way, just out of the pure corruption of their wills.

    • @pickleneck526
      @pickleneck526 5 месяцев назад +1

      The violence in Blood Meridian feels so unpersonal. The men in this story feel like machines bound by the landscape, carrying out atrocities to some larger will. This deterministic worldview is somehow much more unsettling than the violence itself.

  • @StrangePhoton
    @StrangePhoton 4 месяца назад +1

    I don't normally subscribe to a channel without even finishing a single video... but you just made me do it while only halfway through.
    Thanks for that, and for your perspective!

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  4 месяца назад +1

      Hey thanks so much man. Glad you enjoyed.

    • @ronlipsius
      @ronlipsius 4 месяца назад

      I have a bridge over the east river that I’d like to sell to you - it’s a real bargain, sonny.

  • @cordellwynne
    @cordellwynne 5 месяцев назад +1

    Wow. Great insights here. Blood Meridian is relentlessly harrowing. I just experienced it in audio book form but now feel compelled to revisit it in hard copy. McCarthy's powers of description demand repeated scrutiny.

    • @tompurcell9287
      @tompurcell9287 3 месяца назад +1

      Blood Meridian sent me to the dictionary often. What I found was that Cormac used the exact period appropriate word to capture his meaning and description. Great writer IMHO. He often explores the,depths of the human psyche and the nature of man, something he shares with Shakespeare and other great writers.

  • @kommandobosssnikrot9283
    @kommandobosssnikrot9283 5 месяцев назад +3

    I like to think McCarthys books are a more refined, modern, and more expanded version of the message of heart of darkness. My shabby attempt at a takeaway is that everyone believes that the time they live in is the most epic, the most important age to end all ages one of heros and villans. But the world is like a coin flipping between ages of light and dark heros and villains are born then tomarrow the villians are revered and heros cast down spawning new heros and villans that will be cast down and revered in turn, the fate of those around them governed by that same coin, simply by chance.

  • @tompurcell9287
    @tompurcell9287 3 месяца назад +1

    The Coen Brothers passed on making a film based on Blood Meridian, thinking it too dark and difficult for popular consumption. Cormac thought it could be done with some modification or gentling. I agree with Cormac, especially after seeing Bone Tomahawk with Kurt Russell. The author and director, S. Craig Zahler, would be a good candidate for the Blood Meridian screenplay and ask the Coen Brothers to review and consider it again.

  • @gideonman1925
    @gideonman1925 5 месяцев назад +1

    I love this book the way I love a tough teacher. I think the view of history is the most important thing for us to learn from it at this time - all the grand narratives are futile, myth making. Small bands acting in absurd self interest really make history happen, and the rest of us make up the narratives afterwards. “No order except the threads you put there” Think of the epilogue with the man on the plain being followed by the crowd-those interested in bones, and even those that aren’t. It’s why he made the choice to be absolutely inscrutable for most of the book I think. No myths, save for the one conspicuous at the beginning about a wild landscape to try men’s hearts

  • @Time_Is_Left
    @Time_Is_Left 6 месяцев назад +8

    I don’t think we can escape trauma, but we can stop passing it down. And we have never been in as good a place to do that as we are today.
    McCarthy’ work is part of that step forward, opening up new lanes to better understand ourselves and each other

    • @auggiemarsh8682
      @auggiemarsh8682 6 месяцев назад

      Not easy, not easy at all, the breaking of generational patterns, one of the greatest challenges we face in the pursuit of living a life free of angst, nihilistic thinking, existential exhaustion, and especially free of the special self competing for attention

    • @Time_Is_Left
      @Time_Is_Left 6 месяцев назад

      @@auggiemarsh8682 Didn’t say it was easy. If it were easy, it wouldn’t still be happening at the scale that it does

  • @ZebWorlund
    @ZebWorlund 5 месяцев назад +3

    Seeing the Disco Elysium and NORCO posters was all I needed to subscribe and watch the whole video!

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  5 месяцев назад

      Hell ya. Thanks man. Two amazing works of art.

    • @andrewfornes5320
      @andrewfornes5320 2 месяца назад

      Haha, I subbed as soon as I saw that too. I was like, hmm a man of culture; then scrolled down and saw this comment.

  • @tonyraffetto931
    @tonyraffetto931 5 месяцев назад +1

    Everyone says blood meridian is unfilmable but even if it wasnt, I wouldnt want to watch it. Why in gods name would I do that to myself

  • @s0urp0wer5
    @s0urp0wer5 5 месяцев назад +1

    When i hear "Unfilmable" im now intrigued. Got it on my shelf rifht now 😮

  • @apcondesignsolutions5605
    @apcondesignsolutions5605 3 месяца назад

    Sound quality on this video is insane, thank you for your excellence

  • @donkey3235
    @donkey3235 6 месяцев назад +19

    I find his stories, horrible as they are, are not saying us as people are evil, but that the world we exist in exploits the unstable catalyst for violence inside of us

  • @36cmbr
    @36cmbr 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for saying CMC is no philosopher proper. A ‘worldview’ or significant insight about how life is working is a great gift from the artist to an audience. I appreciate your presentation.

  • @JosephReadsBooks
    @JosephReadsBooks 6 месяцев назад +2

    This was a fantastic video.
    Now I need to go back and read all the McCarthy I have read and reflect on it.
    Thank you so much for making this!

  • @scottewing2031
    @scottewing2031 6 месяцев назад +4

    Great watch.
    Well assembled and thought out.

  • @user-sm5kb1ss6j
    @user-sm5kb1ss6j 5 месяцев назад +13

    It’s not dark. It’s conservatism. “You have to carry the fire”.

  • @jamessheffield4173
    @jamessheffield4173 2 месяца назад

    The Wanderer. It’s an elegiac poem of 115 lines found in the Exeter Book, an Old English manuscript created circa AD 975. The bulk of the poem consists of the protagonist’s musings as he wanders, an exile from society after the loss of his lord and kinsmen Tolkien’s Influences: The Wanderer Bing search

  • @MichaelK.-xl2qk
    @MichaelK.-xl2qk 5 месяцев назад +2

    Thanks for broadening my horizons. I never have heard of McCarthy, and only vaguely of No Country which I never watched. Actually your treatment and narrative were worth the time and I learned something valuable. If you want my opinion, McCarthy shows philosophy its limitations. None of the problems he illustrates can be squared away with some tidy rational answers, no thoughts can contend against the emptiness. It points loudly to the spiritual lack that is the inheritance of our society. And our society is predicated upon the Enlightement's embrace of new utopian forms of existence, capitalism and socialism. But McCarthy exposes the lies that reek to the heavens in all of our optimistic hypocrisy. At the end of the day, Cain is still murdering his brother with a rock.

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  5 месяцев назад +1

      Happy to introduce you. I think that’s also a very solid interpretation of his outlook. I think you’ll enjoy his stuff greatly!

  • @emmaribena5529
    @emmaribena5529 3 месяца назад

    I struggled so hard to read Blood Meridian, but I'm desperate to put myself through it again

  • @Eudaimonia88
    @Eudaimonia88 2 месяца назад +1

    Civilisation is hooped together, brought
    Under a rule, under the semblance of peace
    By manifold illusion; but man's life is thought,
    And he, despite his terror, cannot cease
    Ravening through century after century,
    Ravening, raging, and uprooting that he may come
    Into the desolation of reality…
    --- W.B. Yeats ---

  • @batteryacid2701
    @batteryacid2701 6 месяцев назад +5

    Man Im too high for this

  • @tobydobbs8668
    @tobydobbs8668 6 месяцев назад +5

    Im going to buy Blood Meridian today !!

    • @goombah226
      @goombah226 5 месяцев назад +2

      You won't regret it. The first time I read it, I couldn't put it down. I'm ordering The Passenger today. I think it was McCarthy's last novel.

  • @aaronjclarke1973
    @aaronjclarke1973 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks 🙏 for your analysis of McCarthy’s work. I’ve only read “The Road” however it’s a story I haven’t forgotten even after 10 plus years since reading it.

  • @jerichozeplin
    @jerichozeplin 5 месяцев назад

    I like the proper use of the word “sublime” near the end there, good stuff.

  • @karankaushikk
    @karankaushikk 6 месяцев назад +6

    Can you do a video on Thomas Ligotti?

  • @Will_Scobie
    @Will_Scobie 5 месяцев назад +2

    this was excellent, thank you :)

  • @OrdnanceLab
    @OrdnanceLab 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great video.

  • @billygrady7575
    @billygrady7575 6 месяцев назад +2

    Watched this on the Cormac Reddit and enjoyed it. Everything needs more Suttree though.

    • @basementmadetapes
      @basementmadetapes 6 месяцев назад +1

      Suttree is second only to Blood Meridian among his works. It is genius and haunted and a lyrical rival to BM. This book is catching up on the obnoxious amount of times I’ve read BM. It’s gorgeous

  • @jackgraham5342
    @jackgraham5342 5 месяцев назад +1

    I studied Hobbes for Philosophy he is a perfect complementary text to McCarthy's brutality

  • @liamshope2838
    @liamshope2838 6 месяцев назад +6

    Great Video! Definitely do Melville next!!

  • @Drunkwithsuccess
    @Drunkwithsuccess 3 месяца назад

    Terrific review of the authors work. Thank you I will be adding his works to my personal to do list.

  • @michaellicchi4771
    @michaellicchi4771 5 месяцев назад +2

    The carrying of the Torch or Fire appears in every McCarthy novel….not just The Road. Sheriff Bell’s dream about his dad, etc….but it only got a few seconds of mention at the end of your video 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @shoopoop21
      @shoopoop21 5 месяцев назад

      He's a huge lib, so he doesn't believe in traditions, or in the receiving of any passed torches. They might have icky ideology cooties on them.

  • @Cuckold_Cockles
    @Cuckold_Cockles 5 месяцев назад +7

    You are a brilliant and insightful translator of thought. Referencing and relating popular and unpopular ideas and ideologies and those who have conceived their own throughout history. Glad to see channels like yours existent on RUclips. The relations you've found in present day media is spectacular and exactly what the intellectual youth of today will adhere to. Thank you sir

  • @JohnnyULives-lz1ml
    @JohnnyULives-lz1ml 2 месяца назад

    With regards to the eternal return Faulkner said "The past is never dead its not even past" (Requiem for a Nun). I found McCarthy's " The Crossing" second book in The Border trilogy similar to Blood Meridian but not as violent. The best in the series in my opinion. Great analysis on McCarthy and his works.

  • @optioncoachjohn
    @optioncoachjohn 5 месяцев назад +1

    Terrintino may be the only person that could make Blood Meridian.

    • @christopherhamilton3621
      @christopherhamilton3621 4 месяца назад

      Ironically, even he would need the Coen brothers to inject some absurdism into it. The opposite or embellished version of No Country…

  • @easton462
    @easton462 4 месяца назад

    I read the epilogue of blood meridian regularly. Nice to see someone else who appreciates it so much as well.

  • @user-sg5ce8tv7e
    @user-sg5ce8tv7e 4 месяца назад

    This is wonderful, that "epilogue" was poetry, and now, I must read McCarthy.

  • @slave_to_cinema
    @slave_to_cinema 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video, but i dont think Bobby in the Passenger was in Vietnam. His friend was. Just wanted to point that out. Thanks for a great listen.

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  5 месяцев назад +1

      I believe you are correct. Not sure how that one slipped past the cracks. I initially thought he and his friend both were.
      But appreciate the praise, always friend.

  • @charlesc2095
    @charlesc2095 Месяц назад +1

    Your thumbnail got me to click on the video. The Disco Elysium poster on your wall got me to stay.

  • @FightingIrishFan91
    @FightingIrishFan91 Месяц назад

    His brutal, but appropriate use of violence reminds me of my favorite director - David Lynch. Both depict some of the most awful things imaginable, but both use it not for shock value, but moral value.

  • @joesowerbutts948
    @joesowerbutts948 5 месяцев назад +1

    A man seeks his own destiny and no other, said the judge. Will or nill. Any man who could discover his own fate and elect therefore some opposite course could only come at last to that selfsame reckoning at the same appointed time, for each man's destiny is as large as the world he inhabits and contains within it all opposites as well. This desert upon which so many have been broken is vast and calls for largeness of heart but it is also ultimately empty. It is hard, it is barren. Its very nature is stone
    ...The world goes on. We have dancing nightly and this night is no exception. The straight and the winding way are one and now that you are here what do the years count since last we two met together? Men's memories are uncertain and the past that was differs little from the past that was not.

  • @Superluckyhappytime
    @Superluckyhappytime 5 месяцев назад

    Western wasn’t a Vietnam vet in The Passenger, Oiler and Red were. There’s quite a few pages that explicitly state that clearly.

  • @deanodog3667
    @deanodog3667 6 месяцев назад +1

    What we resist persists !!

  • @derekwhite2929
    @derekwhite2929 2 месяца назад

    Don't imagine anything I've ever said or done on this phone yet is private!

  • @clintbustwood4800
    @clintbustwood4800 4 месяца назад

    The Road is a very important book to me. Regardless of Mcarthy’s more philosophical intentions with the texts, The Road illustrated to me what it meant to be a father in general. To build a foundation of experience and knowledge and meaning that is to be handed off to your children. Not as a script or doctrine but as a blueprint to build a better tomorrow for them interpreted in your memory because you earned it. It seems surface level I suppose but to me it created an archetype of intention that I didn’t have before as a young parent.

  • @aforest2802
    @aforest2802 5 месяцев назад +2

    Metaphysics "rooted in negation" is reason, rather than 'nothing', return to Plato's allegory of the cave in the Republic (514a-520a, Book VII). McCarthy's works do not "reflect metaphysically"; there is no metaphysics. In McCarthy's work, like Hobbes, there is no ontological experience, man is self-isolated by his epistemology. One could argue as you have that some of McCarthy's characters apprehend something else,, something primordial, even mystical, at the edges of that epistemology, but there is no metaphysical consideration of those occurrences by the characters, let alone the author.

    • @bluegregory6239
      @bluegregory6239 2 месяца назад

      I believe that McCarthy shows his Platonic view in the Judges speech on war in Blood Meridian.

  • @davidwright8432
    @davidwright8432 Месяц назад

    One thing I saw, as a long ex-Catholic kid, was the Trinity. Father; son; and Sprit as the Flame. That flame, the love engendered between them, and possibly the only hope we have. The first question the Boy asks as he meets his new 'family' after his father's death, is, 'Are you carrying the flame?' Had the answer been 'No', the Boy would not have gone with them, I'm sure. He sensed his true sustenance, came from that flame.

  • @johnbambury1846
    @johnbambury1846 5 месяцев назад +1

    OK I have fond this a very interesting and informative talk howeverI have just two things to say about the philosophy underneath. Hobbs lived in the 16th and 17th centuries not the 15th he was an early modern thinker not a medieval one, his philosophy was based on a very limited data set compared to that available now. Second and most importantly "crushing vacuum ", just think about that phrase.

  • @Heavilymoderated
    @Heavilymoderated 4 месяца назад

    Read The Passenger and Stella Maris a month or so ago and I still can’t get the story out of my head. Having grown up in New Orleans added a little something to it for me as well. Especially since I went to visit not too long before reading them.

    • @bluegregory6239
      @bluegregory6239 2 месяца назад +1

      The passenger haunts me almost as much as Blood Meridian. And Suttree, but in a different way.

  • @cicerogsuphoesdown7723
    @cicerogsuphoesdown7723 5 месяцев назад +3

    What if like posthumous self recordings of Cormac came out Brando style. And it’s just notes for his research for blood meridian. And the public sits rapt with attention like ‘oh man oh man maybe we’ll get insights into his process’.
    And the recording crackles to life and it’s just like:
    “Cormac McCarthy july 7th 1975. *clears throat* I’m gay. I’m so gay. God I’m so gay. Ahhhhhh I’m so gay. *screams of pain* I’m gay. EVERY LIBERAL ARTS EDUCATED DUDE WHO LOVES MY WRITING IS REALLY GAYYYYYY AHHH”
    wouldn’t that be so crazy you guys?

    • @epochphilosophy
      @epochphilosophy  5 месяцев назад

      I’m not sure what’s going on here lmfaoo but go off

    • @MrBojangles788
      @MrBojangles788 5 месяцев назад

      This is one of the funniest comments I've ever read, lol

  • @neilteago3533
    @neilteago3533 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great vid. Well done. Respect 🙌

  • @theodoreconstantini2548
    @theodoreconstantini2548 2 месяца назад

    I don't know much about this author and I enjoyed this .

  • @alllowercase6277
    @alllowercase6277 4 месяца назад

    first video of yours i've seen.
    subscribed.
    definitely did cc justice.

  • @JayTX.
    @JayTX. 2 месяца назад

    McCarthy will force you to separate the duality of how you feel and what actually is. Reminded me a lot of Schopenhauer....to accept things as they actually are is the only way to conquer yourself I believe.
    Blood meridian - " this is the way it was and will be , this way and not some other "
    No country for old men -" its not some other way, its this way "
    * And even your take on the road compared to our romanticized version*

  • @shahbazilyas576
    @shahbazilyas576 6 месяцев назад +2

    Great breakdown

  • @clumsydad7158
    @clumsydad7158 6 месяцев назад +2

    i think it is part of the eternal return; each generation is born, humans with instincts and biological propensities, driving us in a determined style along the lines of thinking Robert Sapolsky and associated research. education and a curation of healthy and diverse cultures are the only defense, yet our ignorance to see and properly understand dooms us currently to the repetition. yet even in knowing it's hard to prevent that which likely must happen - competition, coordination, cohesion, divisions; the cycles continue as we barely yet know ourselves.

  • @calixtomuni9780
    @calixtomuni9780 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great stuff.

  • @brycesuderow3576
    @brycesuderow3576 5 месяцев назад +1

    The comments you are making about blood moraine and remind me a lot of what Joseph Conrad wrote in heart of darkness. Do you think there’s any similarities there?

  • @Dan-jh3qf
    @Dan-jh3qf 2 месяца назад

    I listen to Stella Maris and Passenger on audible over and over and over again… such wells of knowledge

  • @jeffmonroe6317
    @jeffmonroe6317 4 дня назад

    McCarthy brings beauty and order to horrible and senseless things. Struggle, despair, and war. Hell, even incest and necrophelia arent off limits. I really felt... something profound in the last page and a half of Lester Ballards life in Child of God. That guys story and struggle and atrocities, all end in a few quick lines. James Franco made it a movie... and he changed the ending. Its because you cant describe the feelings you get at the end of that book. The last page and a half.

  • @Granted1754bsurd
    @Granted1754bsurd 6 месяцев назад +1

    You have invented another lack within me, now I must venture down the road, into the world that is McCarthy’s and unfortunately our own

  • @randstrickfaden4148
    @randstrickfaden4148 5 месяцев назад

    There are artists who I fully acknowledge as being exceptional if not great, but still they’re not ones I particularly enjoy, their work that is. McCarthy is one of these for me. With that said, I will say you do probably the best explanation of McCarthy one can do in your video here-congrats are in order! The one thing I would take issue with you on is in describing his work as post-modern. His style at times is like a lot of post-modern authors’ writing, but the subject matter and all of the content he introduces are all historic, compatible with the period, and related to the aforementioned, coherent. Vague at times, yes, but not so much as to shift contexts. Therefore, I would have to say his work is definitely modern.

  • @chrisclassical7
    @chrisclassical7 2 месяца назад

    there is a point of view that would say that at the core of a man is an overwhelming ocean of peace and love. the journey from animal to human is through the battlefield that perhaps mccarthy documents. there is hope, not much, but still a little.

  • @stephenholloway9395
    @stephenholloway9395 3 месяца назад

    I have always had a feeling the boy in the road, could be messianic in some way, not in a overtly religious way, but a boy picked out for leading a path for another generation of survivors .

  • @jacksh-t1023
    @jacksh-t1023 2 месяца назад

    Epilogue with regard to the "two handles ... chucks into the hole ... enkindling the stone," The first image is of a Post Hole Digger, but the "enkindling" seems to image the Plow "striking the fire out of the rock" for growth. However, perhaps killing the sacred SPIRIT of the Earth in the process ???