I’m glad you did this comparison. I see that riding flat in smaller waves is great with a pivot fin, and riding on rail is ideal with a raked fin. Got it! Thank you.
Interesting, I have been using a pívot fin in all conditions for several months and just recently put a raked out 11,5 Thomas fin on (which I religiously used on a lighter board…) but after a couple sessions using it on the heavy board I am surfing it feels a little loose and I am definitely going back to my 10” pivot fin… could just be that I need to get used to the raked fin again though🤷🏻♂️🤙
No worries at all Geoff!! The further back the fin placement the stiffer the turns will be and the further forward the looser the board will feel :) 🤙🤙 hope that helps!!
What would be best for a beginner? From ur video, the pivot fin would slow the board down to allow for more straight ahead control when hopping up on the board....or another fin would be best? Thx
For a beginner I like to recommend the raked/Greenough style just because of how versatile and well rounded it is. Either are acceptable and user preference plays a part, but I wouldn’t necessarily prioritise a fin to slow down your trim speed specifically, that can come down to trim line adjustments and changing your position :) Hope that’s somewhat helpful!!! 🙏🤙
Hey Ben, I’m 6’3 and 90kg and am looking at buying a log soon. I’m having a little trouble finding info on size guide for longboards. Do you have any ideas about that? I’ve been surfing a 9’2 for a while and that feels like it’s too small for noseriding. I’m thinking 9’6 or 9’8. I appreciate all the knowledge you share with the longboard community 🙏🏄♂️
Hi Ben, Amazing video! can I ask you an advice ? I' m a beginner longboarder and I usually surf on a beach break with small waves. I' ve a CJ Nelson sprout 9'2". Wath fin shoud I choose, a Classic pivot or an all arounder to start learn noserider and cross step? Thanks Ben for your amazing videos!
Hi Ben, compromises are fun huh. I use both a Stage4 Volan and A Stage glass on a 10" typically up to chest high. I am a fan of both. IMO the 6 fives you both the fluid turn and the hold but I think it is probably actually a med to fast fin so maybe not the drag the Pivots are supposed to. Have you tried one? Cheers - Waipu, NZ
He gets his boards from South Coast surfboards based in Torquay. Victoria Australia. Beautiful surfboards and also a bit pricey! Like any good quality longboard. I hope this helps.
Hey Toby! There's our website which I'll link here for you if you'd like to check it out - theglidesurfcollective.myshopify.com/ We also sell via the 'store' component of the RUclips channel as well as through instagram Feel free to have a look and let me know if you have any questions at all - appreciate the support 🙏
Hi Ben, I just bought a 9'2ft x 22 7/8 × 2 7/8, 72L longboard for small waves, 50/50 rails, symmetrical template, slightly narrow spooned round nose, flat bottom, slight entry continuous rocker, squash tail, PU 6oz+6oz both sides, double stringer (blend of Cal and East coast shape). I'm new to longboarding. I usualy surf a Takayama egg 7'6, and a hand shaped mini simmons. Being 61yo, I can't pop up fast on my ms, that’s why I bought that longboard. My question is off course about fin... Beach break, regularly offshore wind, 1 to 5ft slow waves that tend to close out when they hit the sand bar, and become hollow. (When the conditions are better I surf my egg.) Which type of fin would recomend : Pivot or A4 style ? It seems to me that pivot would be a good choice, but unsure. What do you think about the board I bought ? I'm 5'6 and 158. Thanks for your very interesting vids 👍
Love the comparison! I have both but find myself using the greenough more often due to surfing mostly point breaks. Are sidebites blasphemous for noseriding, or do some people use them?
100% agree!! I don’t have one personally unfortunately but agreed - they could be a whole video in themselves - such sick designs. I had an old Mal a few years back with a 12 inch hatchet fin, was insane!
I’m glad you did this comparison. I see that riding flat in smaller waves is great with a pivot fin, and riding on rail is ideal with a raked fin. Got it! Thank you.
Yeah they were my main takeaways!! I hope that helps, thanks for the support - yewww!!! 🙏🤙
The correct answer is both. It is easy to carry three or four fins and a few tools in your daypack and your mood, or the tide, may change.
100% 🙌🤙🤙
I play with different fins quite often. ...Loved your analysis of these two fins.
if you spend more time at the back of your board than the front, use the traditional shaped one.
Thank you so much Ben! Great Channel, amazing work! Regards from Portugal.
Hey Hugo!! Thanks so much for supporting! really appreciate that, super glad you're enjoying/finding it useful, yewww!!!
Nicely articulated mate 👍
Thanks so much! Hope you found it useful, really appreciate it 🙏🤙
Great video, very useful, i use 10 inches pivot fin and It helps me so much, and gives more stability.....
Super glad it was useful! Yes I love the pivot as well for that reason!
Thanks ben we love u man
Cheers Brett!!! Hope your finding them helpful! Yewww!
super helpful video. thx m8!
Yewww yeah no worries Ian!! Hope it was helpful!! 🙏🤙🤙
Very insightful thank you
No worries at all!! Hope it was helpful 🙏🤙
Def gonna be buying a pivot fin hahaha
Hell yeah!! I’ve been getting more and more back into them 🤙🤙 so fun
Interesting, I have been using a pívot fin in all conditions for several months and just recently put a raked out 11,5 Thomas fin on (which I religiously used on a lighter board…) but after a couple sessions using it on the heavy board I am surfing it feels a little loose and I am definitely going back to my 10” pivot fin… could just be that I need to get used to the raked fin again though🤷🏻♂️🤙
Thanks Ben for the fin insight.What is the difference in having your fin positioned more forward vs more back.
No worries at all Geoff!! The further back the fin placement the stiffer the turns will be and the further forward the looser the board will feel :) 🤙🤙 hope that helps!!
thanks for educating haha
Yewwpww! Thanks mann
No worries!!! Hope it well helpful - appreciate the support 🙏🙏🤙
Shitry waves mate 😂
Have you ever tried a turbo tunnel fin? I own a 9.5" one, pretty weird looking, but I find it really versatile.
What would be best for a beginner? From ur video, the pivot fin would slow the board down to allow for more straight ahead control when hopping up on the board....or another fin would be best? Thx
For a beginner I like to recommend the raked/Greenough style just because of how versatile and well rounded it is. Either are acceptable and user preference plays a part, but I wouldn’t necessarily prioritise a fin to slow down your trim speed specifically, that can come down to trim line adjustments and changing your position :)
Hope that’s somewhat helpful!!! 🙏🤙
Hey Ben, I’m 6’3 and 90kg and am looking at buying a log soon. I’m having a little trouble finding info on size guide for longboards. Do you have any ideas about that? I’ve been surfing a 9’2 for a while and that feels like it’s too small for noseriding. I’m thinking 9’6 or 9’8. I appreciate all the knowledge you share with the longboard community 🙏🏄♂️
check out 6.52 something in the wave with you....
Hey Ben. What’s the length of the board that you’re using here? Love your vids!
Hey!! Thanks so much 🤙🙏 - this one’s actually a 9’9 ,24 wide, huge haha but epic board, not the usual for me though
Is that a shark I see at 10:56?
Hi Ben, Amazing video! can I ask you an advice ? I' m a beginner longboarder and I usually surf on a beach break with small waves. I' ve a CJ Nelson sprout 9'2". Wath fin shoud I choose, a Classic pivot or an all arounder to start learn noserider and cross step? Thanks Ben for your amazing videos!
Hi Ben, compromises are fun huh. I use both a Stage4 Volan and A Stage glass on a 10" typically up to chest high. I am a fan of both. IMO the 6 fives you both the fluid turn and the hold but I think it is probably actually a med to fast fin so maybe not the drag the Pivots are supposed to. Have you tried one? Cheers - Waipu, NZ
Where do you get your boards from? Could you do a showcase?
He gets his boards from South Coast surfboards based in Torquay. Victoria Australia. Beautiful surfboards and also a bit pricey! Like any good quality longboard. I hope this helps.
Where do you get your glide clothing mate?
Hey Toby! There's our website which I'll link here for you if you'd like to check it out - theglidesurfcollective.myshopify.com/
We also sell via the 'store' component of the RUclips channel as well as through instagram
Feel free to have a look and let me know if you have any questions at all - appreciate the support 🙏
Web site info ?
Is this what you're after? theglidesurfcollective.myshopify.com/
let me know if not!
Hi Ben,
I just bought a 9'2ft x 22 7/8 × 2 7/8, 72L longboard for small waves, 50/50 rails, symmetrical template, slightly narrow spooned round nose, flat bottom, slight entry continuous rocker, squash tail, PU 6oz+6oz both sides, double stringer (blend of Cal and East coast shape).
I'm new to longboarding. I usualy surf a Takayama egg 7'6, and a hand shaped mini simmons. Being 61yo, I can't pop up fast on my ms, that’s why I bought that longboard.
My question is off course about fin...
Beach break, regularly offshore wind, 1 to 5ft slow waves that tend to close out when they hit the sand bar, and become hollow. (When the conditions are better I surf my egg.)
Which type of fin would recomend : Pivot or A4 style ? It seems to me that pivot would be a good choice, but unsure.
What do you think about the board I bought ?
I'm 5'6 and 158.
Thanks for your very interesting vids 👍
Do it again in better surf
Those are proper s#lt waves 😂😂
Hahah!!! Sooo so bad… , was unfortunately all that was on offer 😂
Love the comparison! I have both but find myself using the greenough more often due to surfing mostly point breaks.
Are sidebites blasphemous for noseriding, or do some people use them?
Ask Joel about his early years and his first Tudor Model by D.T. (DT3). Coarse Joel is Joel and he could easily nose ride anything and .......
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No hatchet fin? It would be good to include it for people who aren't familiar with them.
100% agree!! I don’t have one personally unfortunately but agreed - they could be a whole video in themselves - such sick designs. I had an old Mal a few years back with a 12 inch hatchet fin, was insane!