WHAT’S POSSIBLE ON A £700 HARDTAIL MTB??
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I’ve been wanting to make a video for ages where I put a more affordable mountain bike to the test. I spend a lot of time riding and working with very expensive bikes and parts, so it’s exciting to try a bike from the other end of the spectrum - an affordable complete hardtail MTB. Dirt jumps, downhill, drop and tricks, all on one bike. This hardtail is special to me as I designed the San Quentin frame with Marin Bikes, and it’s rad. So I found out how far you can push a cheaper complete mountain bike..
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Your low budget bike is higher than my high budget 😂
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Thanks to my grandparents inheritance I did manage to purchase a “CUBE ANALOG Hardtail” 2021 version in Majority black with blue writing
AND it’s the best bike I’ve ever ridden just perfect! Cost £700 from an independent store which is less than RRP I think and I believe you defo don’t need to spend anymore than that whatsoever!! Unless your competing professionally there really isn’t that much difference in quality over 6 700 price range just like guitars which I love too!
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same
The way the biking community talks about bikes and the ludicrous over price of them it’s just crazy. For most people £700 is a LOT! Simply no need for the prices of most bikes, a big rip off.
Mine costs like $250
@@dadmadforgot4050 " Simply no need for the prices of most bikes, a big rip off."
We both know that isn't true
@@jensaugust743 You can create a perfectly great bike for for not much money (Calibre Bossnut). The expensive of a bike is down to a lot of factors that are not directly related to the bike itself - or how 'good' it is. Like all hobbies most people get into a mindset that that they need the latest and the best to enjoy the hobby and it's simply not true. Same deal with guitars. People get obsessed and nerdy and start to justify the expensive to themselves because get they get drawn into that mindset. The manufactures just feed into it and then feed off it = inflated prices. Capitalism I suppose. And im not saying it's necessarily a 'bad' thing. just an observation. : )
*I needed to replace my old bike (it was 22 years old). I absolutely love the **Latest.Bike** . It rides great, I love the color, and it’s a good bike for the money!*
Been waiting ages to see a pro riding a bike that most people will think is affordable for them, at a park that they could ride in!
^^^ This
Matt can shred on any bike!
Sam Pilgrim does it on free/throwaway bikes if I haven't already seen it
@@lbg9778 I was about to comment this haha
Luke Bg true, but those bikes are one and done and unrideable after the session. All it takes is one hard case or nose bomb on the front end and then it’s a cracked frame or blown out fork.
I would like to see a resonable budget upgrade series on this bike. Like a cheap dropper, some decent tires, maybe a second hand fork.
I’ve done 4 builds like that, if you wanna see a few. DM me on Instagram. Link should be on my channel
I built up a marin 1 with a fox 36, shimano xt full build, atlas stem and carbon bars etc and it was amazing. I ended up throwing a rockshox recon RL instead of the fox 36 before I sold it. It was still a amazing bike with that fork. sold it to my friend and from time to time I'll ask him to ride it when we go out on rides lol
That fork is actually pretty nice I would say it is on par with rockshox select +
Great idea right here
@@mikeytek sram deore?
HUGE FANNNNN you've inspired me to ride mountain bikes as a fun hobby for myself at the age of 20 i used to road bike as a kid but now i own a full suspension bike and use your videos for inspiration and growth.
thats awesome! Keep on shreding my dude
dude i'm 32 and about to hit the trails for the first time in 15 years lol!! :D
I love how theres still this little yellow Sticker on the fork that probably says:"No Freeride, Dirtjump or any hard riding"
fax.
No it acually says to read the owners manual
They almost had me. Thanks to this video, I decided to keep my bike.
Oh I had that kind of sticker on my old hardtail bike... Well I have done some "hard riding" and surprisingly the fork survived freaking 3years! And it was a f*cking RST cheap coil suspension fork 😂
@@louisfunke7670 rst ain't that bad, the damping is just very basic. i like my cheap suntour fork, but the damping isn't great. also could do with some ramp up but yeah, cheap ain't bad.
“Send it like Royal Mail sent it to me”
😂🤣
I bought the San Quentin 1 last year for some beginner-level trail-ridings, and I am happy with it. However, seeing a pro taking the bike to the limit makes me feel really good about it. :)
Thanks for the vid Matt! I'm a massive advocate of building and upgrading round a frame. I've still got a Marin B17 triple butted hardtail from 2009 that is still my main bike, and the only thing left on it - that is from the original bike - is the frame, everything else has been upgraded or replaced.
The frame is gorgeous, tough as nails and absolutely bombproof (and I'm NOT a gentle rider, which is why I went for a triple butted frame) and an dream to ride even 11 years later.
Hey Matt, great idea for a video. I wish there was way more of this. There's just so many of us that don't have the funds to go real big.
What about a stock trail bike? Progress from that hardtail to a full on enduro or dh but using all the #1 builds instead of custom #3's.
My bike is a 500$ xc bike, I was thinking if I should spend more cash and build an all-mountain/trail bike instead of xc but since I ride 50% on pavement and 50% on trails, an xc bike is more suitable for me lol
I have have quite a few different bike, but by far my favourite was my Whyte 801, had 2 of them because my first one was stolen. £800 and still choose that quite often over my full suspension and carbon bikes. Just so much fun to throw around.
I’ve never seen somebody more stoked just to be on a bike, I instantly subscribed! Nice one mate.
I actually just bought a Marin San Quentin 1 myself. I’m so excited to try it. I’m upgrading from a cheap Mongoose exhibit and the San Quentin frame already looks so much more rugged and sturdy than what I currently have. I’m excited about this bike’s capability at this price point.
me too.im buy SQ2 and now im change the frame to the SQ3(because my sq2 frame is big then me)
my upgrade is hope e3 brake,shimano cassette,renthal handlebar,spank rasta stem,yoshimura pedal,fabric rasta saddle,da'bomb ufo freehub....next maybe rim....Marin SanQuentin is SICK.send it to the skyyyyy
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Is that a smart new 100% helmet I spot?
Will 👀
Well pleased I dropped by. I was looking for a cheap hardtail up to a grand. I've looked at Boardman, Rockrider and a few others but definitely will be taking a closer look at this. I'm now 45 and had my first Marin when I was at school. (Bobcat Trail)
You saw that , 80% depends on skills, 20% on the bike. Love that :)
Its so sad to see people case every jump at my home spot and theire buying themselfes a scott gambler. It isnt made for dirt and their not good enough
@@LBer-dw7bz Where is your Dirtjump Homespot mate :)
@@freeridetony in germany bochum its pretty small and easy but he still case everything😂
@@LBer-dw7bz Can you tell me the name . No ,cause I've just got from ladt Week one Scott Gamber and I try it yesterday im Halde Hoppenbruch and also Ebberg is hear about 13km
@@freeridetony Halde hoppenbruch is pretty near to me search in Google maps the City "Bochum" and then "an der Holtbrügge" if you want to write DM me on instagram my name is lasse.be2
Love it. I picked up a 12 month old second hand hardtail with an rrp of £1200 for £650. If you keep an eye out some people buy them and never really use them, then sell them on when they've been sitting around in the garage.
Wanted the San Quentin so bad, love the color of the SQ1 but it doesn't come with thru axle so probably go for SQ2 and repaint it 👌
The standard bikes i rent out are 599,- msrp new.
With that you get decent shimano deore groupset and a working front fork with lockout on the bars.
Pretty much all you need to have loads of fun. They weigh in 12-13 kg's with 29 inch wheels.
So that is pretty light and nifty too.
Yes i love the look of the 1 by drivetrains. But not only are they expensive to buy. They are with very steep priced rear casettes very expensive too ride.
Meanwhile I have a Speciaized Hardrock 2015 with 26” wheels and a frame that is one size too small for me (thank you salesperson who knew as much as I did at the time).
Bad time to buy a new bike though because everyone and their mother is taking up mtb during lock down
I'm a Marin fanatic (Quake, Mount vision XTR Pro 1998 FRS, mount vision 5.9, Mount vision Carbon, Attack trail 2002, Wolf Ridge 2008, Pine mountain 1999, Nail Trail and Hawk Hill all in my stable.) and they are such an overlooked brand. Their kit level matches the frame perfectly and they are reliable as hell. Had ne fear watching him do this on a new born hardtail.
"WHAT’S POSSIBLE ON A £700 HARDTAIL MTB??"
- To have fun.
pretty much anything 700 is a ton of money lol
I agree. I spent $900 on mine and it rides better than anything I've ever ridden.
I've been considering buying the San Quentin 1 for a fat minute and I'm so stoked to see this video. Thanks for the upload Matt!
Get a calibre line 10 well better parts for the same price
@@bbmtb710 Not as good geometry though, San Quentin is much longer for stabilty and a 5mm shorter chainstay. Yes the SQ1 doesn't come with dropper or the better Deore 10sp drivetrain but I think geom just does the job well. I just realized both are quick release rear so doesn't matter much.
Matt’s new 100% lid looking fresh🔥🔥
I see u everywhere lmao
I've just picked up a Forme Curbar Pro for £400 new and its a whole lot of bike for the money. The spec vastly outweighs my riding skills and this video confirms I wont need to upgrade for ages!
Yes Matt! These videos make my day. Thanks for showing people you don’t have to buy the best of the best to be the best.
But that’s my dream buke
Real thanks for designing this bike
San Quentin 3 and 2 - 12X148 THRUE AXLE (rear wheel)
San Quentin 1- 141 OPEN DROPOUT (rear wheel)
!!! :)
This. He and Marin keep saying the frames are identical throughout the range but they really arent.
I have this bike and it has a through axle...
@@anfridge7844 on the rear? are you sure you have the san quentin one?
@@thmsvd im pretty sure i do. Its different to my bmx dropouts
@@anfridge7844 are the dropouts open?
I bought this bought about 2 years ago and it was so good. It just carried me on everything! Within a month it was stolen from my garage and that killed me. This video brings back those good memories.
Actually Sold My Pc And decided to give this bike a try. I absolutely love this thing (If you have the spare money)
So is it worth goin to work for vacation time and buy this bike after 2 months of job? I think it is
I think this thint absoloutely shreds for its price point:D
@@lenon9634 i will go for that bike and try it. Everyone seems to enjoy riding that beast, so I hope that it will be amazing for me as well
@@jakubknioa1159 hey bro my friend got one and the fork is pretty bad... I bought a Vitus Nucleus 27 VR for about the same money and it's got an air fork and it still has slack geometry. I would recommend you go for that one
@@martonpeintlerkrivan8027 okey I'll check that one. Thx
We brought our daughter this exact bike just over a year ago, she loves it sooooo much, in the time she's had it we've added an oval chainring, hope qr seat clamp, headset spacers, rotor bolts, grips and pedals all in blue to make it pop, also recently fitted an rsp dropper to it for her 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Identical frames? Hardly when Marin cheap out and give the 1 a qr rear and a boost for the 2 and 3
But £725 for a bike with coil forks, a QR rear and crappy non tubeless tyres is unacceptable.
In a matter of a few days you have become my absolute hero...OK, there is Doctor Who (hihi), but "bike-wise" it is you! I have just bought the San Quentin 1. It is being prepared at the bike shop and I will pick it up tomorrow. Have been looking at this bike online for about six weeks now. I had a look at it before the virus prevented me to go to the shop. It looks brilliant and this vid showed that it will be more than enough for my riding abilities. Thanks so much for your videos, they inspire a lot!!
To be fair, when you're a professional rider you could probably take a penny-farthing to a bike park and make it look fun.
Especially when it's only for a couple runs and not for a year of riding this only on a daily basis
I agree...Sam Pilgrim bought a $179.00 rigid frame mountain bike from Wal*Mart and rode it on black diamond trails at Whistler...the bike actually passed with flying colors! ruclips.net/video/P6b9RxXGzSY/видео.html
@@TheLaughingOtter Yes I saw that video. But he also said, he wouldn't do it on a regular basis, cause he was not sure of the bike would hold up
Not my cannondale trail 8
This bike made in Indonesia same factory with polygon..which produce milion bike for along time and the product the reliabilty is proven..
I owned a SQ1 and it is by far and away the best looking color wise of the 3 SQ's. My only disappointment in the bike was the Boost 141 QR. It really doesn't make sense to me why they could not have made it as a thru axle boost but alas its not. Frankly however the only thing left stock on the bike was the seat, stem, bars and cranks. I replaced everything else..I bought a DT Swiss wheel set and found some 135QR end caps. Dropper, 11-46 11 Speed XT drivetrain and XT brakes. I rode that bike as hard as my talent allowed. I sold it and bought a gravel bike but I am honestly looking for another SQ. Hopefully a used one will pop up. Cheers Matt for making fun vids to watch.
Is it just me is that siding behind him in the beginning really wavy 🧐
I have the San Quentin 2 and just love it. Thank you for this design.
“Yes, it’s on”. My favourite phrase.
Not many of us could flip any and every bike we ride and I’m happy to leave that challenge to you…. for our entertainment. Thanks Matt and for the record I think that Marin partnering up with you is a stroke of genius. I want a San Quentin now.
Just ordered a 19 San Quentin 1 for 700€ on sale.
Can´t wait to finally get rid of my 400€ Habike Seet with garbage mechanical discs!
That´s gonna be fun!
Hi, can You share a link, really hard to find something in our country. searching in EU
@@archys7 www.probikeshop.com/de/de/mtb-marin-bikes-san-quentin-aa-27-5-gruen-2-aa9/159088.html?gclid=CjwKCAjw-YT1BRAFEiwAd2WRtlukzuU_taCBwaAKCvIgqlau1K5SP2iqIUzr-wIuJax7cf1G7tn7_xoCIqMQAvD_BwE&gshop=DE&ef_id=CjwKCAjw-YT1BRAFEiwAd2WRtlukzuU_taCBwaAKCvIgqlau1K5SP2iqIUzr-wIuJax7cf1G7tn7_xoCIqMQAvD_BwE:G:s
the shop i bought it from, doesnt have it anymore
the cheap suntour xcm has gotten better. i remember my old 2007 giant stp with the xcm forks lol bottomed out on a huge landing to flat and i did a endo in to the tree. now the 2019 bike i have with the newer lockout xcm forks seem to be way better and can handle some half decent jumps.
“Send it like Royal Mail sent it to ME!” 😂
royal mail delivered it, they didn't send it.. sorry to be that guy haha
I got a bike very similar to that about 18 months ago. After some small modifications and a couple of upgrades, I'm riding everything my much more experiences friends are who have enduro bikes well over twice the price of my much more attainable hardtail. Its not what you ride, it's how you ride it
I've got san quentin 2 for over a year and its literally the ultimate shred machine
Totally agree with Matt this bike is awesome for the money, I use it as my winter bike.
The fact that he still has the reflectors on 😂😂😂
Bought a 2012 Voodoo Hoodoo (with the good air fork) for £200 last year. Bike had hardly been used. Got an upgraded chainset, derailleurs and chain for little money. That thing is a blast
im at that level of mountain biking where $700 bikes are gods and anything more expensive is a myth
I started Mtb over a year ago with an aggressive rocky mountain hardtail similar to this and it was a blast for the time I owned it. Sadly it was stolen a couple months ago so now I have a DJ
Love the little "shit" at the beginning 😂
Top work that man! superb display of what an "everyman" bike can do, keep in mind that if you are happy to go pre owned you can grab £1200 worth of bike for £700 or less and often in barely ridden states, in fact I'd like to see what Matt can find on the pre owned market for £700 and put it head to head with this video.
The part I don’t like about the San Quentin 1 is it has no back maxxle
Good to know! I'm learning to ride on a £400 entry level hardtail.
i cant even afford this affordable bike someone help
Gotta save. That, or buy second-hand. Or third-hand.
Help yourself and save some money
@@mahmam3128 been savin for 18 yrs man
@@harryjaggers1849 gtfo you can get a cheap bike from Craigslist or whatever, 18 years my ass
You should have enough money to buy a car if you've been saving for 18 yrs
I have never bought a new bike, I just go on pink bike after saving and buy them at a reasonable price. So I got a s works carbon epic from 2017 for £1100 in June this year. Great bike, great price, can't complain.
The frame is not actually identical it has a qr rear end
True
Still the same frame tho
The San Quentin 1 features a Series 2 aluminum frame, with tapered head tubes, 3D forged drop outs, IS brake mounts, and semi-internal cable routing. The San Quentin 2 and 3 feature Series 3 aluminum frames, with more advanced tube forming, more complex dropouts, post mount disc tabs, full internal cable routing, and a boost 148mm thru-axle
From the website
@@markwoolnough2160 the aluminum is the same 6061 in all frames
Hi Matt, great vid as always, been catching up with past videos ect and always good content! As I’ve been watching them and my youngest son also has with me, he is 5 brilliant on a balance bike but always worried when trying to ride his bmx(will get him a mtb at some point) in the week when watching one of your videos he said I want to do that!! Soooo finally today managed to get him on his bmx and boom riding straight away!! So a big thank you for inspiring him! Finally soon he will be out on the trails with me soon!!
matt you've just done Marin out of a load of money now that noone will buy the San quantin 3 lol
or people that can afford this but not the San Quantin will buy a Marin for the first time .... and they make more money
If you want the 3 you'll buy the 3. If you know the value of a dropper and a more respectable fork you'll go for that rather than paying to upgrade it later. This is a great bike for my area though where we've finally gotten a bike park and for people to test the waters
Usually I'd be telling people that budget focused bikes are all the same, and the brands don't have any intention investing huge R&D into these if they can put that focus into their flagship bikes, which then go on to represent the brand as a whole.
That said, I've noticed recently a few brands really are trying to mix it up a bit. Marin's affordable plus bikes have been extremely popular in my neck of the woods, and put steel back on the map as a building material of choice for hardtails/rigid bikes.
The frame is not identical. The frames geometry is identical but it's made with a different aluminum than the San Quentin one.
QR rear axle
While shopping around I keep coming back to this bike....There aren't a lot of hardtail trail bikes and this one really stands out. I'll be "counting my pennies" till I get one.
Never clicked on a video so fast!🤘
I have the Hawk Hill 1, it's the best cheapest full suspension you can buy here in America, I absolutely love it!
Oh man I wish I was In America! Trying to get any parts for my Attack trail 8 in the UK is a nightmare ! 😣
Damn Tom Cardy looks different than I remember :D
great vid mate. Wasn't sure if you had a video talking about the frame design you created with marin bikes. Would love to hear the story behind it and what you expected from the design.
Ben laughs like he's being felt up🤣🤣🤣
wutt
Im going to buy that bike, after earnin money on vacation time, and I think, that this bike will be amazing and open up a new level of ridin for me
That fresh post
Matt, I just bought the 2021 version of the San Quentin 1, great bike just wish it had iscg mount so I could fit my nukeproof chain/bash gaurd
Were the wheels still round after the day and what were the forks like afterwards?
The forks on that bike would probably blow if you were to keep doing that.
The wheels should be fine, but they won't survive a single case.
as hard as he just cased those wheels in this vid, the rear is toast for sure.
I have the same forks after 4 downhill rides they started flexing I could see a gap between the stanchion and seals but they work fine
Great bike bought this for my son nice geo. Loads of fun to send although the suspension did let it down amazing when ugrade the forks
Looks like you’ve found my next ‘Cycle2Work’ bike 😂
ive just bought the voodoo bizango from halfords. cant wait for it to come. have to wait a week though
Any tips on getting a sponsor without any competitions or races near you
8ēt yøü ©åñ't $¶ëll M¥ π@M€ social media is the best way
Do some slick riding and don't don't beg for free stuff. Prove your case and promote brands with hashtags and relevant posts.
Seeing u ride the bike and not breaking it makes me want it more
Hey Matt would u be able to help our village build a pump track we have had bearings and have got money would you help
If this is ok and you teply I will email you
yesss which town
Try his business email, probably a better route to go down to get him involved. Good luck :)
Just put word out to all the local MTB and BMX riders - they'll help you build it for free and can build it how they would want to ride it! It would make a great video of Matt there for a day though!
computerbob06 I’m in
Watching this video because I’m about to purchase one!
I got my bike for £30 lol. It used to be worth 1/2 grand 10 years ago, thank god for ebay am I right?
Trek xcaliber 7 served me well for years great bike great parts never let me down
Awesome! You're rocking with just a XCM.
Me ripping trails on a $200 schwinn: PSHHH
I really wanted this kind of bike to get started at riding trails
the trek marlin 5 is chepe
Jackson Darby it is but it’s no where near as good as the san Quentin
Nice to see Suntour representing and representing well...
“WHOOOOO... WHOOOO .. WHOOOO.... Shit”😂😂
Best affordable hardtail review of the year!
So this bike should now be a prize 😜
Great to see someone doing a more budget friendly review.
Do you have to have internal routing for a dropper post?
You don't HAVE to but your options are very limited in terms of travel and quality with externally routed droppers. PNW makes a good external routed dropper but for my next bike , internal is going to be a must
Thanks I will check that one out, on my bike i have no option but to go external.
are you going to crank worx in routarua
i jump on my voodoo bantu, £350 new few years ago (now £500 for the exact same bike?), no complaints, jumps fine.
I would like to see this bike for people over six feet tall.
They make an XL and even a XXL in this bike
Oh I guess no XXL , my mistake, but I'm sure if you're no taller than 6'2" you'd be fine. Size charts are just recommendations. I sit in the XL spectrum for the 2016 nail trail but with my shorter legs, I'm super glad I went with a large, on some bikes I personally feel better on a medium at 6'1" (some 29ers & fat/plus bikes
Thanks for doing this video because now there all out of stock
The question isnt "what can you do on a cheap bike?" the question is how often you can do it until it needs a repair.
Just bought this bike and it is absolutely superb. So comfortable to ride.
Which one actually is it tho? I'm trying to find it :P
@@franzmarley marin san quentin 1 2019 model
This is the kind of thing that I look for. That said, you should send me that one so I can continue the testing and see how long it can handle punishment from an American flat broke out of shape middle aged former BMX rider.
This is the one I've been waiting to see you build up and ride, I just purchased one myself but hasn't arrived yet. 😎 I have an air fork and 1x10 speed group (1x42 cassette) I'll be converting it to. Thanks!
What should I search up to find this bike ?
@@tobythompson9688 Marin San Quentin 1 but it you can afford it check out the San Quentin 2 or 3, better frame and components.
You need to make a moose tshirt
I ride a raleigh tokul, similar to this, relatively inexpensive, but offers a lot of fun.
Never thought to pronounce it "Mah- Rinn" 🤔 thought it was just Marin 🤷♂️
Our Brand rep used to constantly correct us on the pronunciation. Think like a Frenchman when saying Marin
@@shawnalexander1305 are Marin a French brand?