The Real Letters from Roman Soldiers

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  • Опубликовано: 28 фев 2024
  • These are letters written by Roman soldiers nearly 2,000 years ago. They were written on wooden tablets in ink made with charcoal and tree sap. When they were discovered, they the oldest handwritten texts ever found in Britain, and the oldest handwritten Latin texts ever found. All of them come from Vindolanda, a Roman fort right by Hadrian’s Wall. They were preserved in anaerobic bog-like conditions, so what you’re about to hear are real Roman soldiers from the 1st to 2nd century AD, nearly 2,000 years ago.
    In the video, I use pictures that aren't necessarily representative of the exact tablet because many are only available in black and white. You can read them all for free here: romaninscriptionsofbritain.or....
    Music: Celtic Impulse by Kevin MacLeod.

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  • @markbeck8384
    @markbeck8384 4 месяца назад +378

    This makes them very real: dealing with friendships and family, money matters, supply needs, justice.. just like us today.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +42

      It's a breath of fresh air compared to normal history focused on war and politics

    • @user-uu1nw1bl9j
      @user-uu1nw1bl9j 4 месяца назад +17

      Yeah its almost if theyre humans. /S Very nice indeed. That's why I generally like memoirs and old diaries.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +16

      @user-uu1nw1bl9j yes but humans who crucified people! They're like us but not like us at the same time

    • @notsocrates9529
      @notsocrates9529 4 месяца назад +2

      Why wouldn't they have to do deal with those things?

    • @Mumbo_Jumbo_Kiwi.1
      @Mumbo_Jumbo_Kiwi.1 3 месяца назад

      as if the letter writers were compelled to a code of due diligence, suffer the consequences

  • @ronorazine9105
    @ronorazine9105 4 месяца назад +592

    Interesting as a young soldier in viet nam on the DMZ, i had no good socks or underware due to a seige. Sent a request to my mother and received once things quieted down two packages of socks snd underwear plus some snacks. Couldnt help but smile at the roman soldier who got knitted socks.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +59

      It's sweet how some things never change

    • @captainamerica6525
      @captainamerica6525 4 месяца назад +41

      I too had to smile at the mention of warm knitted socks from a mother to her legionary son. I spent 2 years in Germany and the winters were damnably cold. I wrote home for some battery operated socks which my folks hastily sent. The more things change....

    • @randomvintagefilm273
      @randomvintagefilm273 4 месяца назад +22

      Thank you for your service sir ❤

    • @user-qs7gx7rp7m
      @user-qs7gx7rp7m 4 месяца назад +14

      Nothing ever changes except for the stage settings and thecast members in lifes constant drama. The scrip always remains the same or so this fellow with 3/4 of a century experience and love of history believes.

    • @pilarrusso9883
      @pilarrusso9883 4 месяца назад +7

      Your mother had to send you clothes, this should be the Gobertment duty.I am shocked.

  • @Nellis202
    @Nellis202 4 месяца назад +184

    People are people ……. even two thousand years ago .
    Same hopes , same dreams. Makes it all the more palpable.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +9

      People never change!

    • @TaraConti
      @TaraConti 2 месяца назад +2

      @@TopRomanFactsOnly the stuff around us…

    • @zhhrah
      @zhhrah 2 месяца назад +6

      Their brains had the same software as we do now

    • @pibly7784
      @pibly7784 9 дней назад

      Yes !

    • @user_1664
      @user_1664 21 час назад +1

      And we all still slaves to a society we never asked for .
      Funny innit .

  • @EndingSimple
    @EndingSimple 4 месяца назад +446

    It is precious to hear from human beings that far back in time. Thank you for it.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +27

      It is a miracle really. Thanks for you comment!

    • @Sketch_Sesh
      @Sketch_Sesh 4 месяца назад +13

      @@TopRomanFactssounds like they hand made a lot of things with the hides, sinew, threshing grain etc..

    • @IrishAnnie
      @IrishAnnie 3 месяца назад +7

      Makes them very human to us instead of legend.

    • @owllymannstein7113
      @owllymannstein7113 3 месяца назад +3

      If you look around on youtube there's a video where they read the epitaphs from a Roman pet cemetery, its probably the most pointlessly sad video on youtube, but does make you see the Romans as very human.

    • @partiellementecreme
      @partiellementecreme 3 месяца назад +3

      @@Sketch_Sesh people were pretty industrious about making a lot of the things that they needed, before very recent history.

  • @branscombeR
    @branscombeR 4 месяца назад +588

    The Vindolanda tablets also include a letter from a worried mother having heard that the climate at Hadrian's Wall was very cold in winter, enclosed a gift of hand-knitted warm socks ... and a party invitation from one woman to another on this, the most northerly frontier of the Roman empire. R (Australia)

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +83

      I love those letters too, thank you for bringing them up. I feel like this topic deserves a part 2!

    • @wilburgraham6260
      @wilburgraham6260 4 месяца назад +1

      Well said proggs 😉

    • @aeliusdawn
      @aeliusdawn 4 месяца назад +31

      Australia? Damn, the Romans sure ventured far!

    • @venus_envy
      @venus_envy 4 месяца назад +3

      I was wondering why those were left out!

    • @phnix6242
      @phnix6242 4 месяца назад +9

      Aha Australia eh?!

  • @537monster
    @537monster 4 месяца назад +142

    I love these letters because they remind you that first and foremost, that these were real people. With families, loved ones, hopes and dreams, pet peeves and annoyances, etc… it’s very enlightening and helps us relate to these people who lived thousands of years ago.

  • @robinharwood5044
    @robinharwood5044 4 месяца назад +179

    As I recall, at least one letter referred, not just to socks, but to warm underpants. Hardly surprising. if you are standing on the wall at midnight, in winter, you’ll want more than just a tunic between the North Wind and your essentials.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +10

      That's a great letter

    • @BlindSquirrel666
      @BlindSquirrel666 4 месяца назад +5

      Is that the letter wherein we learned the Latin word for underwear?@@TopRomanFacts

    • @rickh3714
      @rickh3714 3 месяца назад +11

      ​@@BlindSquirrel666
      "Bolochus frigidus nomorus. 🩳
      Called simply 'Bolfriginos' in vulgar Latin." Prof Quentin Blenkinsopp, Perils of Roman Britain & Ancient Caledonia, Univ of Suxford Press 🧐

    • @brawdygordii
      @brawdygordii 3 месяца назад

      Thus proving that the Scots are tougher cookies than any Roman Legionnaire.
      It was only after 1707 and the anglicisation of the lowlands that the hardy Scots were infiltrated by lilly-livered Sasenachs (Saxons) with their pink frilly knickers and their troosers. What the ladies wore I don't know:-)

    • @markwardel6751
      @markwardel6751 3 месяца назад +1

      @@rickh3714 🤣🤣🤣

  • @Sopmylo
    @Sopmylo 4 месяца назад +85

    Closest we'll get to actually sitting in a room with a Roman.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +4

      Great way to put it

    • @remilenoir1271
      @remilenoir1271 4 месяца назад

      I'm pretty sure you can sit in a room with any of the 3 million romans alive today.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +7

      @@remilenoir1271 that's a very large room

    • @ironhell813
      @ironhell813 3 дня назад

      Or just go to the US since it’s the current Roman Empire….

  • @francisebbecke2727
    @francisebbecke2727 4 месяца назад +54

    Problems of every day people are about the same them as now. Great find!

  • @alaakela
    @alaakela 4 месяца назад +49

    How marvelous! We are reading letter from 2000 years ago! Love it!

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +6

      And we are doing so due to the potluck nature of archaeology

  • @KravKernow
    @KravKernow 4 месяца назад +88

    The Vindolanda tablets are my favourite find in archaeology. They just so humanise the community there. I love the complaint about the state of the roads. Just shows how the myth and reality aren't always the same. They also have interesting examples of people using latin letters to transliterate the local Celtic languages into writing.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +5

      Yep very well put 👏

    • @Misses-Hippy
      @Misses-Hippy 2 месяца назад +1

      "Transliterate" - a new word for me. Thx.

    • @view1st
      @view1st 2 месяца назад +2

      Transcribe is the word you want I think. As far as I can tell the ancient Celts had no written language to transliterate.
      Transcribe means to put spoken words into written form. Transliterate means to put one form of writing into another form of writing. An example would be turning Chinese ideograms into Latin script so they can be read in English.

    • @KravKernow
      @KravKernow 2 месяца назад

      @@view1st Much obliged

  • @njhoepner
    @njhoepner 3 месяца назад +47

    It reminds me of when I lived in Wiesbaden, Germany, which in Roman times was a major fortress and settlement. There was a short bridge from the Roman period there, and just below it a few Roman gravestones. One was of a centurion. So there I was, a U.S. Army officer serving in Germany, looking at the gravestone of a Roman Army officer serving in Germany. It was an interesting feeling.

    • @colinhunt4057
      @colinhunt4057 3 месяца назад +4

      In the ancient city square in Regensburg is the central cathedral surrounded by a wall. The wall is not very high, but obviously of great age. In the centre of the wall is a gateway in the form of an arch. Carved into the arch are the words "Porta Praetoria". These words signify the front gate of a Roman legion fortress. Regensburg was created by the Romans as a legion fortress. Regensburg was one of the relatively convenient crossing places over the Danube River, hence the need to garrison it strongly.

    • @njhoepner
      @njhoepner 3 месяца назад +5

      @@colinhunt4057 If you go to Trier (originally Augustinium Treverorum) you can see the Black Gate or "Porta Nigra," one of the four gates of the original city fortification. The city was founded in the first century and originally unwalled, because it was on the "safe" side of the Rhine, over 50km inside the imperial border. Then, in the 3rd century, the Romans realized they had to fortify it. The gate is truly massive...the walls were high and thick...and just as they finished the fortifications, the Alemanni stormed through and sacked the city. Oh, the irony.

    • @colinhunt4057
      @colinhunt4057 3 месяца назад +2

      @@njhoepner Trier, formerly known as Treves in English, was I believe the former capital of the western Roman Empire. At that time, the Empire had four capitals: Augustinium Trevororum, Ravenna, Constantinople and Antioch. These served the purpose of allowing the resident Emperor or Caesar to remain closer to the local armies defending the frontier. Trier would have been one of the principal cities of the empire in the 3rd century AD., as it would have been the administrative centre of Britain, France, Spain. Trier would also have the advantage of being on a main commercial highway of the western Empire, the Rhine River.
      It would be nice to visit it someday. There are few enough Roman ruins surviving to this day, and it would be good to see more of them.

    • @njhoepner
      @njhoepner 3 месяца назад +1

      @@colinhunt4057 Trier was a capital, and when they could no longer keep it secure it moved, eventually to Milan, and then Ravenna when even Italy was no longer secure.
      Trier is pretty impressive to visit. There's the gate, the amphitheater, and a medieval cathedral that is also pretty cool to see.

    • @JuliusCaesar888
      @JuliusCaesar888 2 месяца назад +1

      Rowdy Germans always needing occupation lmao.

  • @bertmacdonald337
    @bertmacdonald337 4 месяца назад +106

    The HBO series, ROME was an eye opener into how Romans lived, fought and died. The soldiers Lucius Vorenus and Titus Pullo were actual people, mentioned in Julius Caesars conquest of Britain. They both were centurions, vying for the top spot SNCO in their Unit and by Caesar`s account were both absolute machines. Do your own research into those blokes.
    In the armoury at Royal Marines Commando Training Centre, down one side is a long counter where recruits draw their weapons for training . On the wall down the opposite side, was a series of drawings comparing our training to that of Roman Legionnairs. Not much has changed in two thousand years!
    Ray Stevenson who passed away recently, played Pullo with such aplomb that I would be happy to have him as a Marine in my Troop.
    Rest Easy Ray, sleep well Pullo

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +29

      HBO Rome is an amazing piece of TV. It's such a shame it was cancelled before the full multi series plan could have been filmed

    • @lindaross783
      @lindaross783 4 месяца назад +3

      Amazing show!!!

    • @platero1993
      @platero1993 4 месяца назад +4

      RIP titus pullo!

    • @fredgarv79
      @fredgarv79 4 месяца назад +6

      It was cancelled because it cost so much to make. They even cut back on things in the second season and it seemed kind of rushed to me. I have never, ever seen a series more real, more accurate, more visually perfect than that series. Back when HBO actually had decent series like the sopranos etc and ROME. Actually the new series The Chosen is about as good, without the huge budget and yet it still looks fantastic and very authentic and real.

    • @user-fu9vj9ix3g
      @user-fu9vj9ix3g 3 месяца назад +4

      Had no idea he passed. RIP. The Pullo character was epic.

  • @acebrandon3522
    @acebrandon3522 4 месяца назад +45

    That was very interesting, due to the fact that the soldiers that wrote these letters 2000 years-ago were dead but their words were preserved and alive for 45 generations. For us to read and learn from.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +12

      I sometimes wonder how they would have felt about us reading their immortal words

    • @acebrandon3522
      @acebrandon3522 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TopRomanFacts The same as us. Upset over it most likely. The Romans had the same struggles as us today, but the technology was way different. Think if we today were in the same boat as the Romans were. 2000 years from now somebody discovers a well-preserved cell phone, or I pad and found a way to activate it and read our stored emails. I wonder how they would see us primitives today. 🤔

    • @davidkeely43
      @davidkeely43 4 месяца назад +8

      If it were my daughter’s old cell phone, it is highly doubtful that they would understand the meanings of the messages!!

    • @masti733
      @masti733 3 месяца назад +4

      It's probably closer to 100 generations. It's only recent people have children later in life, people had short life expectancy then. I bet it was common for 20 year old women to have a child already. 2000 / 20 = 100.

    • @acebrandon3522
      @acebrandon3522 3 месяца назад

      @@masti733You may be actually closer than I was in the generational estimate.

  • @CrankyGrandma
    @CrankyGrandma 4 месяца назад +54

    It’s funny how close in style this is to Paul’s epistles.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +15

      Very similar

    • @olleani
      @olleani 4 месяца назад +2

      This must be the polite style of Latin afforded when you were writing or talking publicly. Because it sounds too stiff to be vernacular.

    • @dgrewar
      @dgrewar 3 месяца назад +1

      I also thought so.

    • @evelynsaungikar3553
      @evelynsaungikar3553 3 месяца назад

      Paul was a Roman.

    • @danacamp5437
      @danacamp5437 3 месяца назад +6

      Similar to the apostle Paul's style? Not even close. These notes are all very stiff and full of unnecessary wordiness.
      Paul's writing is dense and complex, but nothing is "fluff" or extraneous. It's incredibly deep, philosophical reasoning. Analytical brilliance, not tedium. And, Paul was writing in koine Greek, not Latin.
      So very different.

  • @Calligraphybooster
    @Calligraphybooster 4 месяца назад +38

    “He has not credited them to my account“?
    Implying some banking system? Wow. I would love to know more.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +9

      Yes it's so interesting! Perhaps this will he a video one day... thanks for the comment

    • @justinrichards7822
      @justinrichards7822 3 месяца назад +2

      That sentence caught my attention, too..

    • @justinrichards7822
      @justinrichards7822 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@TopRomanFacts please do !!

    • @carloscollomps1552
      @carloscollomps1552 3 месяца назад +5

      They had some kind of banking and credit system, just like the Crusaders a little later.

    • @partiellementecreme
      @partiellementecreme 3 месяца назад +2

      Banking in Ancient Rome is a Wikipedia article.

  • @sookie4195
    @sookie4195 3 месяца назад +15

    I love history warts and all. I dislike people trying to rewrite history. Thank you for sharing!

  • @bryanmaxwell7332
    @bryanmaxwell7332 3 месяца назад +53

    While I was in USMC boot camp in fall of 1985….I sent a letter to my biological mom and biological dad…both divorced from each other since I was 9 years old…mom ( a part time waitress at Denny’s )..sent me cookies and photos of her dad who was a former US Marine. I got a letter from my biological father while I was in boot camp also…he said he was repulsed and disgusted with me going into the USMC….he was a devote Jehovah Witness. I just retired as a Lieutenant General, Vice Chair on the Joint Chief of Staff…38 years serving my country. He ended up fleeing the USA as a felony charged tax evader and for insurance fraud…He is perceived to reside on the Cook Island, Rarotonga, Matavera ….Some pain as a child will stay with you for decades….

    • @Gibeah
      @Gibeah 3 месяца назад +1

      damn the Roman Soldiers had it better than you...

    • @Misses-Hippy
      @Misses-Hippy 2 месяца назад +2

      And some pains move in for good. A JW dad - Yikes!

    • @leonpastis4663
      @leonpastis4663 2 месяца назад +3

      What has your personal story to do with the history of the Roman Empire?

    • @marieshka1
      @marieshka1 2 месяца назад +9

      Thank you for sharing your story. It’s a contemporary version of a sentiment that could have been written 2,000 years ago. ❤

    • @scottlaux6934
      @scottlaux6934 2 месяца назад

      Nice story. You mom at Denny's, your JW pop who obviously didn't stay on the straight and narrow.

  • @kenbo-2179
    @kenbo-2179 4 месяца назад +13

    I did enjoy their words. Thank you for bringing them to us!

  • @davidnash1220
    @davidnash1220 4 месяца назад +12

    I was lazy not walking the length of the wall but seeing the main parts it was lovely weather and just great to see especially the letters saved from Vindolanda, it's as if you can touch history
    You reading these reminds me of that trip 👍

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +2

      Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for you comments

  • @HollyMoore-wo2mh
    @HollyMoore-wo2mh 4 месяца назад +4

    I visited there back in Nov of 2023. and YES it was chilly rainy and wet... and I LOVED every minute of it.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +2

      It's just get. I have to go back!

    • @HollyMoore-wo2mh
      @HollyMoore-wo2mh 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TopRomanFactsI was just thinking about that last night.

  • @welshpete12
    @welshpete12 4 месяца назад +9

    Truly remarkable , it really brings these people to life ! This is one video to keep !

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +2

      Thank you, I'm glad you enjoyed it

  • @Incorruptus1
    @Incorruptus1 4 месяца назад +2

    Wow! Thank you so much for uploading/producing.

  • @jchisholm1968
    @jchisholm1968 Месяц назад +2

    They sound like warmer & more considerate individuals than people are today.

    • @kelrogers8480
      @kelrogers8480 Месяц назад +1

      Wtf! Hardly! Read up on Rome and the Romans.

  • @Ghenesa
    @Ghenesa 4 месяца назад +30

    crazy that we have this

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +10

      Yep. It's such a shame to think about howuch organic material has been lost though

  • @chimneydriptray2439
    @chimneydriptray2439 4 месяца назад +8

    Words are a index character they indicated the intelligence of the Person who wrote them. 2000 years old and they sound highly intelligent conversations .

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +1

      Absolutely right

    • @chimneydriptray2439
      @chimneydriptray2439 4 месяца назад +1

      Are the words in the bible any less potents now than when they were first spoken, 2000 year ago?

  • @ryanhilliard1620
    @ryanhilliard1620 29 дней назад +1

    Just amazing! Thank you so much for sharing!❤

  • @josephc7362
    @josephc7362 4 месяца назад +6

    BTW. My dad served in the US Navy during WW II. Letters to and from service members overseas were microfilmed and sent as what was called V mail. These Roman soldier's letters strike me as a similar format.

  • @moriko07
    @moriko07 4 месяца назад +7

    It reminds me of Aurelius Polion's letter that he wrote home to Egypt, while in Pannonia.
    The letter was found in Egypt, so it reached his family, but we don't know if he managed to return home.
    Here in Italy he moved everyone, I will send this video to the Italian Scripta Manent channel, thanks for talking about it. ^_^

  • @davidnash1220
    @davidnash1220 4 месяца назад +8

    Excellent
    I visited the Wall last year absolutely fantastic and Vindolanda breathtaking

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад

      Amazing I love Hadrian's Wall. Did you do a hike or just visit the main bits?

    • @danielepedoussaut8860
      @danielepedoussaut8860 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@TopRomanFacts j'étais sur le Mur d'Hadrien il y a bien 30 ans. Le paysage , admirable, du soleil, des digitales pourpres (foxgloves). Un brave chien courait au sommet, tout joyeux. Et sa maitresse un peu âgée me disant : Yet, he's older than me by dogs' standards ! J' ai même trouvé un bout de hache de pierre, brisée, que j'ai perdu depuis.

  • @benketengu
    @benketengu 4 месяца назад +5

    Thank you so much this is the kind of thing I like to learn about.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад

      Great, I'm glad you enjoyed it! I've got another video about Roman curse tablets you may also enjoy

  • @sonnyblu6299
    @sonnyblu6299 4 месяца назад +1

    This is of special interest to me! Thank you!

  • @shoegazeforever8810
    @shoegazeforever8810 4 месяца назад +12

    The Vindolanda tablets: Britain's greatest national treasure.

  • @magnvss
    @magnvss 4 месяца назад +18

    I'm surprised how unreadable are those letters written in whatever cursive that was used by them, like in, they have little or no apparent resemblance to the capital letters of their monuments.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +12

      Yes it is shocking at first. It's the same if you compare the this text composed for the Internet... very legible compared to most people's scruffy hand writing. Luckily some people are smart cookies and have deciphered these tablets

    • @loxodoncyclotis1823
      @loxodoncyclotis1823 4 месяца назад +12

      It's called Old Roman Cursive, crazy to think that most documents at the time were written in this script but so few examples of it remain

    • @maximisatwat
      @maximisatwat 4 месяца назад +6

      But not really any different to hand-writing. Until printed text became common-place handwriting was pretty crazy up until very recently. Still is. People used to be much more used to seeing it. We have iteasy these days

    • @mt.shasta6097
      @mt.shasta6097 4 месяца назад +5

      ​@loxodoncyclotis1823 But we Westerners are also stymied by Arabic writing. And there are so many different middle and far Eastern forms of script! Amazing world we enjoy.

    • @kayfitzgerald309
      @kayfitzgerald309 4 месяца назад +2

      I listen to a podcast called "stuff you should know"(very good), where they talk alot of various subjects, but one really stuck out in my head, about Language being a "living" thing!
      Always changing...(like ppl)
      BUT...
      Still,,, we communicate 😊

  • @lisacraze1
    @lisacraze1 3 месяца назад +1

    Very cool. Thanks for this!

  • @martindunstan8043
    @martindunstan8043 2 месяца назад

    I'm late to this video and gave subscibed simpky because this was as well made as it was facinating. Great job👍

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  2 месяца назад +1

      Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @brt5273
    @brt5273 4 месяца назад +12

    I wonder, since these were found in a bog, if the correspondence actually reached the recipients....

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +9

      I like to think so. They were chucked away in the same fashion that their rubbish was chucked away, in a bog with the animal bones and broken pottery

    • @sandrabailey3966
      @sandrabailey3966 3 месяца назад +1

      Answer: No.

  • @dagwort
    @dagwort 4 месяца назад +56

    At 3:50, a certain Octavius writes about acquiring 5000 "ears of corn" for the garrison. I'm no expert, but I recall that "corn" in ancient context is a translation of "granum", a Latin term for "grain" in general. Modern corn (or maize) is a New World crop the Romans had no knowledge of. Did Octavius mean "sheaves of grain"?

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +41

      Corn is a term used by historians to refer to grains in general. For example the British Corn Laws were about wheat, not the New World crop. Octavius was referring to wheat or barely

    • @trikepilot101
      @trikepilot101 4 месяца назад +19

      Technically "corn" means the most common grain crop of a region. In North America, it has come to mean "maise" but in formal speach, especially in the UK, it retains its older meaning.

    • @davidkottman3440
      @davidkottman3440 4 месяца назад +9

      So, an "ear of corn" would be a head of wheat or barley on a very short stem & unthreshed. Sheaves would refer to bundles of long straw with the unthreshed heads or ears still attached. Threshed grain would be sold by weight or volume similar to today.

    • @jarls5890
      @jarls5890 4 месяца назад +11

      In all of Scandinavia (as well as to some extent in German speaking countries) - the common word for all grain is "Korn"...i.e. "Corn".
      The only word ever used for "Maize" is..."Mais".

    • @davidkottman3440
      @davidkottman3440 4 месяца назад +5

      @@jarls5890 south America too - mais.

  • @danlines2725
    @danlines2725 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for your good work. Very interesting.

  • @NokMTG
    @NokMTG 2 месяца назад +2

    Sounds like my main man from the fall of civilizations podcast! Love your work

  • @air_cooled_andy
    @air_cooled_andy 3 месяца назад +3

    ‘The roads are bad’, yep some things never change 😂
    Great video!! Really interesting 👌

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  3 месяца назад

      Thanks! Imagine if that Roman soldier saw the state of roads in Britain today 😳

  • @ingaz6565
    @ingaz6565 4 месяца назад +7

    Thats a high quality and varied diet enjoyed by the roman soldiers. Most people of that time were stuck eating grains and perhaps some figs.
    But then again, they were serving the greatest empire that had ever been seen at that time.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +3

      Absolutely. Roman soldiers certainly ate better than the provincials they liked to exploit

    • @ldubt4494
      @ldubt4494 3 месяца назад

      ​@@TopRomanFacts By the time of the empire, there was no exploiting anymore. That was a problem of the republican era.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  3 месяца назад

      @ldubt4494 I'm afraid not. Plenty of Imperial examples of exploiting the locals

    • @ldubt4494
      @ldubt4494 3 месяца назад

      @@TopRomanFacts in the imperial times, sense of romanness extended to all conquered, which culminated in the Edition of caracalla which gave all free inhabitants of the empire citizenship, no matter if they were egyptian, italian, or brythonic.
      Its also the reason why revolts mostly stopped happening. (Except the jews)

  • @DreidMusicalX
    @DreidMusicalX 3 месяца назад +1

    It always gives me chills to think of all the lives before us that has come and gone. Lived, loved, fought, died, and that will never be here again.

  • @danjelskerfving533
    @danjelskerfving533 4 месяца назад +1

    Really fascinating!

  • @philipchretienkarlsson8157
    @philipchretienkarlsson8157 4 месяца назад +7

    These letters seem to have been written in some sort of cursive script, extremely difficult to decipher, although some of the letters resemble our modern alphabet. I recognized the letter "f" - so, a kind of stenographic script seems to have been in use as early as 200-300 AD/CE ...

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +3

      The people who decipher these scripts are truly geniuses. Reading Latin inscriptions is a walk in the park in comparison

  • @scottpreston5074
    @scottpreston5074 4 месяца назад +4

    In human way they are still with us.

  • @jackhammer3423
    @jackhammer3423 2 месяца назад +1

    Really enjoyed your excellent presentaion.
    Thank you

  • @hurricanekate6839
    @hurricanekate6839 3 месяца назад +1

    I loved this! Thank you so much. I am an unabashed history nerd and love things like this. I have always maintained that people who say they don't like history have never been taught that it's about REAL PEOPLE. (P.S., I just subscribed.)

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  3 месяца назад

      Thanks for the sub! I also love history from real people. Archaeology is great for that

  • @josesantini6741
    @josesantini6741 4 месяца назад +2

    Is great to hear what thousands years old writtens tells.Is like to enter to an open time door.

  • @Gwaithmir
    @Gwaithmir 4 месяца назад +3

    I first learned about these letters from an article in ARCHAEOLOGY.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад

      Great magazine

    • @fredgarv79
      @fredgarv79 4 месяца назад

      Yes, me too, what a great magazine

  • @janetteveronica402
    @janetteveronica402 3 месяца назад

    This is so interesting, thank you

  • @NAY2GAS
    @NAY2GAS 4 месяца назад

    That was awesome. Thank you.

  • @Gundus1000
    @Gundus1000 4 месяца назад +3

    Great. Thanks.

  • @abestm8
    @abestm8 4 месяца назад +11

    Excellent, would love to see more of this. I did like the different take on 'The Hides of March' though. 4:46 and before anyone replies, it was a joke OK, Beware the Ides lol.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +3

      Haha, I'll make a part 2 soon

    • @philipdee1415
      @philipdee1415 4 месяца назад +1

      Nice one!

    • @DATo_DATonian
      @DATo_DATonian 4 месяца назад +1

      Good one !!! 😄

    • @branscombeR
      @branscombeR 4 месяца назад +5

      For those who don't know: Wikipedia - 'The Ides of March ... is the 74th day in the Roman calendar, corresponding to 15 March.' R (Australia) Fun fact: I used to live on a farm just 20 minutes on foot from Vindolanda and got to see some of the tablets when they were first discovered ...

  • @michaelbuckley8986
    @michaelbuckley8986 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for sharing this interesting content😊

  • @davidevans3227
    @davidevans3227 3 месяца назад +1

    i've heard about these letters, voices just like ours, from so long ago,
    so it's really great to actually hear some..
    thankyou for sharing this...
    is there more? 🙂

  • @TheXaminedLife
    @TheXaminedLife 3 месяца назад +4

    Roman soldiers could read and write to each other and even to slaves. This is the first time I've heard of people in this level of society being literate. It's interesting, surprising.

    • @colinhunt4057
      @colinhunt4057 3 месяца назад +1

      Roman soldiers had to be able to read, write and count to qualify as centurions. Regardless of how short the army may have been at times of qualified NCOs, centurions and a number of other senior ranks such as tesserarri and optiones had to have the same basic skills of literacy and numeracy as a condition of rank. The Roman army was run by its NCOs who were all long-service professional serving under the eagles for up to 25 years. Hands down, the Roman army was the most experienced military the world had ever seen. Nothing else came remotely close to it, before or after. It's like would never be seen again until the 19th century in terms of professional experience of its rank and file.

    • @ldubt4494
      @ldubt4494 3 месяца назад

      Roman empire had one of the highest literacy rates in pre modern times. This was not limited to the military. But it was more widespread in the cities. Proficiency though varied a lot, some might have taken their time to write and read those letters.

  • @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh
    @JamesMartinelli-jr9mh 4 месяца назад +8

    As I am studying Latin I'd like to read the original scripts. Where could I find them?

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +9

      Go to the website in the video description. All are available there. Good luck with the Latin!

    • @berndstromberg1586
      @berndstromberg1586 4 месяца назад +5

      The issue with that is, it is completely different than classical Latin. There are so many words that no one even knew before the tablets were found and they had to find out what could be meant. Also they are very fragmented, so most of them have huge gaps and some only a few words.

  • @angelamary9493
    @angelamary9493 2 месяца назад

    Amazing ! Love it

  • @user-ig1vo1es7e
    @user-ig1vo1es7e 3 месяца назад

    great video mate :)

  • @randomvintagefilm273
    @randomvintagefilm273 4 месяца назад +6

    I would love to hear ALL the letters.

  • @berndstromberg1586
    @berndstromberg1586 4 месяца назад +6

    Great to see a video about this topic. As I have written my Bachelor Thesis on this topic, I want to add a few things:
    1. Although the Garrison of Vindolanda was part of the roman army, they were not of roman decent. In that timeframe the troops stationes there were auxilliari cohorts of the Batavians and Tungrians, which came from todays Netherlands. Even when the tablets were written in Latin, it was not their first language.
    2. 0:33 Cerialis was not a soldier, but the Prefect of the Garrison
    3. The guy that got beaten up was not a soldier, he was a merchant from overseas. It is not clear from where he came, but he was no roman citizen nor was he a Brit how he stated in his letter. He complained that he got beaten even though he was not a Brit, which implies that the Britons treated worse than other foreigners. But what is most fascinating about this letter is, that it was addressed directly to the Emporer Hadrian who resided in Vindolanda for a while, while the Hadrians wall was built. But most likely the letter never reached Hadrian, as it was found in the centurions block. It is possible that they gave him another beating for that letter.
    4. The merchant that bought 5000 moddi of ears of corn and needs money desperately could very well be the same guy that got beaten up (I forgot if it was because of the similar handwriting or because it was on the other side of the same tablet). Judging on the risky deals this guy made, it seems not impossible that a guy like that might get himself in trouble.

  • @tweezerjam
    @tweezerjam 3 месяца назад +2

    Dude these are cool as hell. Why don’t you have more subs? I don’t get it. Subbed 👍🏼

  • @dennisjones0081
    @dennisjones0081 3 месяца назад

    Outstanding!!!!!! I was just teleported back in time 2000 years. And to think I hated history when I was young - now I can’t get enough. These are marvelous.

  • @yallowrosa
    @yallowrosa 4 месяца назад +3

    were these letters written by the same "scribe" ? (the handwriting looks similar)
    Why are they grouped together? did they still have to be sent? (and were not shipped for an external event?!)

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +3

      Some tablets were written by a scribe but most were individually written, probably by the senders. They were found in similar contexts but probably were dumped with the rubbish. They therefore were already sent and read, or a discarded draft

    • @annehat4833
      @annehat4833 3 месяца назад

      @@TopRomanFacts your so full of it !....i can smell you from here !! ewwww

  • @bret9741
    @bret9741 4 месяца назад +4

    We like to think we are smarter, more advanced and that people of the past were somehow less than ourselves.
    Rome was everything one can imagine. At times wonderful and grand, just and driving for a better life for all its citizens. On the other hand brutal and ruthless to the point of evilness only men like Stalin, Mao, Hitler have been a shadow of in modern times.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад

      Very well put 👏

    • @RAAM855
      @RAAM855 4 месяца назад

      Yeah I hate this common notion that our ancestors were less intelligent and backwards when they were just as smart and were only making due with what they had. It's Insulting when some people question their engineering and say stuff like aliens building the pyramids or Stonehenge

  • @shane1039
    @shane1039 3 месяца назад

    This is incredible!

  • @tobystamps2920
    @tobystamps2920 3 месяца назад

    Very interesting listening to these. The style of writing, the phrases used and such sound so much like the the epistles (letters) of the New Testament that were also written in this time period.

  • @hoosierdaddy2308
    @hoosierdaddy2308 4 месяца назад +3

    Very interestimg. They had the same oroblems we do today. Paying bills and makimg a livimg.. ❤

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +3

      And chatting to friends and family!

  • @misaelfraga8196
    @misaelfraga8196 4 месяца назад +3

    So the Romans also complained about the state of the roads. Some things never change.

  • @guns942
    @guns942 4 месяца назад +1

    Well spoken!

  • @Camille-cu3cb
    @Camille-cu3cb 4 месяца назад +2

    ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT WELL DONE SUPERB ❤

  • @jaykay5580
    @jaykay5580 4 месяца назад +3

    any letters from crispus baconus? we were old pals.

  • @artyzinn7725
    @artyzinn7725 4 месяца назад +6

    could most romans read and write or did they use scribes? do you know how those letters were mailed and how they got to their addressee?

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +5

      It's estimated that up to 25% of the army were literate, with virtually all centurions and other higher ups being literate to complete accurate records. Some of these tablets were written by the soldiers themselves, whereas others they simply would have asked their literate friend to write it for them. The military had its own postal service. You just wrote the name of the soldier you wanted to send a letter to, where he was based, and pay a fee. It would, most often than not, show up up to a few months later. But communications between closer more central provinces was quicker

    • @artyzinn7725
      @artyzinn7725 4 месяца назад +3

      @@TopRomanFacts amazing, writing letters is one thing but having a system empire wide to distribute them is another, just saw it on britannica, the cursus publicus. however, like other empires it was most for govt' related business so i guess for military, it was also gov't in a way. There is suggestion for personal mail it was carried by friends or slaves ... 'if you are going to X, could you take these to Y?'

  • @annanardo2358
    @annanardo2358 2 месяца назад +1

    Very interesting !

  • @brettsairgent577
    @brettsairgent577 3 месяца назад

    That was brilliant I could listen to those letters all day ,who would of thought we could be reading two thousand year old letters and even grocery lists amazing .

  • @Itskal3
    @Itskal3 4 месяца назад +6

    And to think China has been using paper since 100 AD…and the Europeans only came upon it a thousand year later.

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +5

      Yeah and the Romans used almost everything to write upon: bones, pottery, and scraps of wood

    • @HollyMoore-wo2mh
      @HollyMoore-wo2mh 4 месяца назад +2

      Wood would make it from one station to another better than paper. Paper flies away much easier than wood. AND you can wrap it up and put in a package better.

    • @patrickkelly6691
      @patrickkelly6691 4 месяца назад +2

      Caesar used paper and it was cut and sewn into 'Codex' - early books. so they had paper over 30 years before the Republic 'fell'' .
      But it was way too expensive for 'common use' like letters. Wood would aso travel well.

    • @gabriellima7900
      @gabriellima7900 4 месяца назад

      ​@@patrickkelly6691 Caesar used papyrus not paper.

    • @emiriebois2428
      @emiriebois2428 Месяц назад

      ​@@HollyMoore-wo2mh So why was it replaced by paper ???

  • @lisarak8639
    @lisarak8639 4 месяца назад +4

    Ego sum pauper agricola...

  • @voyaristika5673
    @voyaristika5673 Месяц назад

    Showing times change but people don't. So interesting. Thank you!

  • @daveycrocket4873
    @daveycrocket4873 4 месяца назад +2

    Do you have more letters? Would love to hear more Very interesting

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +2

      There are plenty more. Make sure to subscribe because plenty more is on the way

  • @BigTrees4ever
    @BigTrees4ever 2 месяца назад +7

    Pontus Pilate wrote some letters too. One of them describes meeting Jesus and his holiness. Primary source material for proof of Christ’s life. Look it up, they lie and say there’s no evidence he existed but we literally have multiple primary sources including parts of apocrypha.

    • @inventgineer
      @inventgineer 8 дней назад +1

      Genuine question: but was Pontius Pilot like one of the many authors of the books in the Bible that were proven to be liars when it came to talking about Jesus and events he was involved in, where they happened, etc?
      Because to the best of my understanding there are a NUMBER of sources CLAIMING things relating to Jesus and his existence, but the difficulty lies in that a number of them were proved out-and-out liars on the topic, in a sad sad attempt to seem mystic or important, and whose word cannot be taken to mean much t'all on the subject as a result. I'm only hoping we have no reason to lump Pilot in with those shameless barbarians.

    • @yoda5280
      @yoda5280 4 дня назад

      Jesus was a real person, his cult was / is fake.

  • @weejackrussell
    @weejackrussell 2 месяца назад

    I love these, it shows that human beings are very similar no matter when and where they lived.

  • @Misses-Hippy
    @Misses-Hippy 2 месяца назад

    Brilliant! Thank you.

  • @steveoh9285
    @steveoh9285 4 месяца назад +7

    Imagine a future society viewing our emails:
    “Dearest They/Them,
    I went to my new job today but quit after 5 minutes because my boss asked why my hair was purple (it’s actually blue) and why was I wearing a BLM t-shirt. I filled a workplace harassment complaint and expect a large cash settlement any day now. Yesterday, I saw a toxic male in the grocery store wearing a red cardinal ball-cap and I just had to call him out as a MAGA sympathizer. He tried to distract me with some baseball talk nonsense, but of course I didn’t listen! Naturally I took a video of me screaming at him (haha) which I then posted to TikTok; it already has 31 likes (I am SO happy)! And to answer the question I KNOW is on your mind, I tipped the scales at exactly 350 pounds tonight. It must have been all the tofu and seaweed I had for lunch! Since I am gender-fluid and feeling feminine at the moment, I will sign-off as my born burden (a woman).
    Luv ‘ya!,
    Denise of the Unicorn Vale

    • @NPC-bs3pm
      @NPC-bs3pm 4 месяца назад

      At one point in time people made a big deal out of Plato's "Atlantis"
      but now...
      Future: "What is this 'Unicorn Vale' that is spoken of? We should proceed to search the ancient ruins of this society, until we find it❗"

  • @folgore1
    @folgore1 2 месяца назад

    Neat hearing the things they discussed in letters. Also, it gives insight into how common literacy was among Romans.

  • @ModernPracticalStonemason
    @ModernPracticalStonemason 4 месяца назад +2

    Awesome video. I’m working at the Roman army museum do you know much of magna fort?

    • @TopRomanFacts
      @TopRomanFacts  4 месяца назад +2

      Thank you kindly. I know of the fort and love the work that's being done at the Roman Army Museum. Working in heritage is a tough industry so kudos to you 👏

    • @ModernPracticalStonemason
      @ModernPracticalStonemason 4 месяца назад +1

      @@TopRomanFacts would you ever do a video on it? I’ve actually been building the visitors centre there are videos on my channel also if you’re interested!

  • @john2859
    @john2859 2 месяца назад

    Fascinating!

  • @AllanGildea
    @AllanGildea 3 месяца назад

    Wonderful, thank you.

  • @rayloobzer298
    @rayloobzer298 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for this. It reminds us that even thousands of years ago, these people were no different from us.

  • @pocholiss
    @pocholiss 11 дней назад

    This is truly impressive.

  • @Heroesflorian
    @Heroesflorian 4 месяца назад +2

    Nice one!

  • @user-gp9vk8he5g
    @user-gp9vk8he5g 3 месяца назад +1

    From that area, what history went back in 2010 what an experience, should have checked it out when I grew up. Greetings from Australia.

  • @alanfoster6589
    @alanfoster6589 2 месяца назад +1

    When decades ago I first visited the JP Getty museum in Malibu, my favorite item therein was not some massive marble statue or old master painting but rather a small bronze tablet in a back cabinet. It said, roughly, "Publius Severus Cassus (I forget the actual name): fourth legion, second maniple, third cohort, is hereby....etc. etc.
    It was an official discharge form from the Roman army, thanking the soldier in question for his service and awarding him his plot of land in (now) Italy. Suddenly 2000 years dropped away.

  • @LeicaM11
    @LeicaM11 20 дней назад

    Great,,to see those original,footages from 2000 years ago. Stunning 😄

  • @momof2momof2
    @momof2momof2 4 месяца назад +1

    Wow!! Amazing ! I love history

  • @jaddison1112
    @jaddison1112 3 месяца назад +1

    This is astounding. The letters make people of the ancient past so real to us, and not unlike us.

  • @AbAb-th5qe
    @AbAb-th5qe 2 месяца назад +1

    The coolest thing about these is it's like phone text messages were found 2000 years later :) Not the voices of kings, but those of ordinary randos.

  • @alexaez2946
    @alexaez2946 4 месяца назад +2

    I could never wrote such a beautiful letter

  • @RommelsAsparagus
    @RommelsAsparagus 17 дней назад

    Fascinating.

  • @Minchya
    @Minchya 3 месяца назад

    Interesting how much they convey best wishes and good sentiments to their friends.