THIS WAS INTENSE! | Bowser VS Eggman DEATH BATTLE! Reaction

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  • @Chaos_Vergil
    @Chaos_Vergil Месяц назад +515

    The song is called Game Over and it's composed by Brandon Yates, one of the two main composers for Death Battle. Also, Victor Borba sings this song, A.K.A., the guy who sang Bury the Light. So saying that it has that Bury the Light vibe is pretty spot on.

    • @venom_spy_chaosgod
      @venom_spy_chaosgod Месяц назад +21

      Game Over? Maybe my mind made that shit up, but I think I saw name "Hard Boiled....something", don't remember the last word.

    • @Loyd64
      @Loyd64 Месяц назад +41

      ​@venom_spy437 Hard Boiled Fury, was the name of the commissioned song from like 3 years ago by the same guy, so your not wrong, game over is the official one. He takes commissions in waves for match up songs, so it's not surprising to see a song from 2-4 years ago end up as a actual death battle, but he has to make a separate official one for the death battle

    • @venom_spy_chaosgod
      @venom_spy_chaosgod Месяц назад +17

      @Loyd64 Oh, so this is situation like with Deciphering Discord and Discordant Decipher, got it.

    • @diloraptordraws
      @diloraptordraws Месяц назад +18

      ​@@venom_spy_chaosgod I believe that Hard Boiled Fury was a song commission someone had made by him a while back for their own purposes. Game Over was specifically made for the Death Battle.

  • @zzskyninjazz1821
    @zzskyninjazz1821 Месяц назад +153

    To that one guy in chat who said they commissioned alternate scenarios, they didn’t.
    Morø just decided to do this by himself and it took him just an entire DAY. Cos he’s THAT much of a chad

  • @Raktus
    @Raktus Месяц назад +257

    "Another sponsorship!?"
    Remember that they went independant, don't got the same money bags paying for these anymore... so to keep them going, they are doing what they gotta do.

    • @silverstone9836
      @silverstone9836 Месяц назад +11

      to be fair, they had like 2-3 sponsors in a video even when under Rooster Teeth

    • @masternoob9673
      @masternoob9673 Месяц назад

      That’s why it pisses me off that they waste these limited resources on characters they’ve already Fkn covered 😑

    • @ShinKyuubi
      @ShinKyuubi Месяц назад

      @@masternoob9673 Yeah they've had Bowser on before but look at it this way...I don't think we're gonna get ANOTHER Goku vs Superman and iirc from their Kickstarter they are gonna redo Ben 10 vs Green Lantern since that was one where they really nerfed Ben's abilities to make it so GL could win.

    • @AmericanBrit9834
      @AmericanBrit9834 Месяц назад +6

      @@masternoob9673I’m sorry, what are you smoking and where can I get some? How is this a battle a waste?

    • @NoHandle44
      @NoHandle44 Месяц назад

      They raised $500k on Kickstarter. So I wonder what the sponsorships are for.

  • @aaronnwithtwoNs
    @aaronnwithtwoNs Месяц назад +75

    37:52 …DECENT?
    Open Your Heart, Live and Learn, Knight of the Wind, Undefeatable, Reach for the Stars, Escape from the City, I’m Here, I Am All Of Me, All Hail Shadow, His World, Endless Possibilities, Break Through It All, Find Your Flame, and What I’m Made Of:
    Are we a joke to you?

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 Месяц назад +26

      saying sonic music sucks: the most L-est take in the universe

    • @2212blackstar
      @2212blackstar Месяц назад +6

      That hurt to hear literally several soundtracks just flew through my mind when she said that

  • @elijah682-e1m
    @elijah682-e1m Месяц назад +477

    The one who animated this is moronighteye super underrated most death battles are animated by a small team THIS FIGHT WAS ANIMATED BY ONE DUDE with passion recommend reacting to some of his content

    • @Phant0mPers0n.
      @Phant0mPers0n. Месяц назад +20

      Yeah, should definitely check his other animation fight

    • @reggielacey2235
      @reggielacey2235 Месяц назад +1

      And? Not gonna watch his other stuff

    • @Snook531
      @Snook531 Месяц назад +28

      @@reggielacey2235who asked 😂

    • @Mr.Dr.Professor
      @Mr.Dr.Professor Месяц назад +7

      I know! I instantly recognized the animation style as the same kind used in indie cross and the Murder Drones vs. Helluva Boss animation.

    • @AmericanBrit9834
      @AmericanBrit9834 Месяц назад +3

      @@reggielacey2235Talk about a sore loser

  • @TheMongral
    @TheMongral Месяц назад +217

    This fight was the perfect encapsulation of the quote: "A Dictator Dictates, A Leader Leads." One sat on the sidelines, and had nobody willing to step in to help at the end because they never stepped in to help their troops, while the other practically had to wait in line for his troops to stop protecting him before reciprocating in kind. Even if the winner had actually lost, I think we can all agree he would have lost in a manner that is perfectly in character for him. Easily one of the best battles in the series history.

    • @reggielacey2235
      @reggielacey2235 Месяц назад +7

      Metal sonic and sage says hello

    • @AmericanBrit9834
      @AmericanBrit9834 Месяц назад +23

      @@reggielacey22352 exceptions. He absolutely does not care for anyone else. In Metal’s case it’s actually debatable how much he cares given he removed Metal’s free will.

    • @TheMongral
      @TheMongral Месяц назад +18

      @@reggielacey2235 That's kind of my point. They're the *only* ones who both _Can_ and more importantly _Would be Willing_ to step in and tank a hit for Eggman or otherwise actively provide support for him. Every other robot is programmed just to fight unless he specifically orders them otherwise.
      Meanwhile, Bowser received assistance from Kamek (multiple times), Bowser Jr (multiple times), and King Boo (once). But ultimately when it mattered most, at the very end of the battle, and someone showing up to save Eggman was a matter of victory or death, who still had an army to back him up? Someone to cover him? Not Eggman, that's for sure.

    • @SpecificValio
      @SpecificValio Месяц назад +4

      @@reggielacey2235 That proves OP's point even more. Metal Sonic and Sage were dictated by Eggman to do his bidding. Metal Sonic CARRIED because he did most of the leg work when he arrived to grab the Phantom Ruby. Sage was *almost* the saving grace for Eggman, but failed to recognize that there were so many abilities that they couldn't think about. For example, the Grand Star being used through rage, Bowser turning into Dry Bowser after he tanked the laser beam or even Chance Time.
      In MANY, if not all, of the scenes, Bowser was on the front lines fighting off the enemies with his people and protecting them at all costs. No matter the struggle, he was there. Eggman can't say the same at all. We BARELY saw him. Only when he was in a power struggle or close to death.

    • @nachonaitor5535
      @nachonaitor5535 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@AmericanBrit9834if i remember correctly, metal can recocer IS free Will?

  • @aidenmb7932
    @aidenmb7932 Месяц назад +87

    "It sounds like Devil May Cry music"
    Funnily enough, they got Victor Borba for the background music, who sung Bury The Light

  • @jvts8916
    @jvts8916 Месяц назад +202

    The newest Mario and Luigi game really shows how much the koopa troop cares for each other when Bowser jr. offers a bounty for the two. Said bounty is one coin in memory of every minion "defeated" by them and is *over 98 million*

    • @datironpanda2982
      @datironpanda2982 Месяц назад +55

      Wow they actually keep track...of every goomba, koopa, and maybe even bob-ombs that were killed
      That's dedication

    • @DracheLehre
      @DracheLehre Месяц назад +22

      That census only recently came out!

    • @joshuakim5240
      @joshuakim5240 Месяц назад +14

      It's always funny to see Mario RPG stories with Koopa Troop PoVs since they almost always make it clear that Bowser and his leadership are not even remotely evil in the slightest, but Bowser just thinks he's evil because he thinks being evil is cool. The only reason why the Koopa Troop never held an intervention for Bowser to finally realize that he's a Lawful Good character whose unsuccessfully LARPing as a villain is because they don't want to hurt his feelings.

    • @nachonaitor5535
      @nachonaitor5535 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@datironpanda2982if we ignore out Fanboy side. Mario and Luigi ( and most of the " héroes") in Mario world should be in jail. Bowser IS only fighting for the rights of IS kind , and the " Hero" cast IS just as racista Whit Monsters as Hitler was Whit black people

    • @archmagemc3561
      @archmagemc3561 Месяц назад

      The point of this joke is actually a translation of a japanese automotopia. Basically in Japanese those numbers say 'Bowser is Awesome" or sounds very close to it.

  • @csk7769
    @csk7769 Месяц назад +213

    goofy ass complaints, the episode made it incredibly clear this was an army battle, multiple characters fighting one character is normal

    • @awesomezebroz_2949
      @awesomezebroz_2949 Месяц назад +72

      It's so obvious too. Putting Eggman and bowser into a ring by themselves and it wouldn't even be a fight

    • @joshuahughes3377
      @joshuahughes3377 Месяц назад +28

      I mean, tbf, it does make sense for this to be an Army based fight or war in that order for that matter.
      I mean, DB did say they're not alone for a reason.

    • @NoHandle44
      @NoHandle44 Месяц назад

      I mean, it wasn't even really an army. How many of Bowser's minions were taken into this calculation? How many of Eggman's badniks? Only the main ones were shown to contribute while all the others like goombas, koopas, general badniks were just the cannon fodder.

    • @reflection6401
      @reflection6401 18 дней назад

      @@NoHandle44king boo
      Kamek
      Bowser junior and the koopalings
      King bomb-Omb
      Every unnamed enemy type that is under Bowser’s rule
      Honestly Eggman doesn’t have many forces outside of Sage and Metal Sonic
      that would do anything to the army
      But I wish Metallix, mecha Sonic, and maybe Jet(forgot if he stayed loyal to eggman or not)
      Frankly the only one really that was left out was for bowser was Petey Piranha, Mouser, and Lakitu

    • @NoHandle44
      @NoHandle44 18 дней назад

      @@reflection6401 They SHOWED the goombas and koopas and etc in the fight. But I don't think they were ever taken into the calculations. They were just there to fill a quota.

  • @lucasm.3864
    @lucasm.3864 Месяц назад +104

    40:38 even worse, Eggman was willing to wipe out his own army for a killing blow. All of his troops were running away while Bowser’s troops were the only ones to stand their ground.

    • @datironpanda2982
      @datironpanda2982 Месяц назад +16

      More like didn't know what was about to hit them while the bots ran the moment the green light glowed the troop only saw a giant orb the size of the moon with green eyes and the moment it went off they didn't have time to move
      While Bowser decided to protect them defending his troops and as a result NO BOTS were left all of them either died or dipped from eggman especially cubot and orbot they happily joined Bowser wanting respect
      Only sage was left caring for eggman planning revenge only by herself

    • @cragl3yman343
      @cragl3yman343 Месяц назад +4

      @datironpanda2982 Ah yes Sage the girl who for all intents and purposes can't even be touched xD

  • @GiuseppeMario-d8y
    @GiuseppeMario-d8y Месяц назад +56

    "Death Battle is too scared to make a Nintendo character lose!"
    Link lost to Cloud and Ganondorf lost to Dracula, so...

    • @jordanhunter3375
      @jordanhunter3375 Месяц назад +12

      Luigi vs. Tails, Sora vs. Pit (Kid Uprising), Red and Charizard vs. Tai and Greymon, Pikachu vs. Blanka, Bayonetta vs. Dante (I know Bayo is primarily owned by Platinum games)

    • @THERandomGuyMan
      @THERandomGuyMan 27 дней назад +2

      Sonic somehow lost to Mario tho

    • @Vantainium
      @Vantainium 10 дней назад +1

      @@THERandomGuyManMario is just built different

    • @supergoji7511
      @supergoji7511 9 дней назад

      ​@jordanhunter3375 the OG starter battle Royale

    • @jordanhunter3375
      @jordanhunter3375 9 дней назад

      @supergoji7511 to be fair, that was a fight amongst Nintendo-owned characters, so no matter who won, it was certain at least two Nintendo characters would fall

  • @Joh-o1r
    @Joh-o1r Месяц назад +72

    Bad things? He LITERALLY conquered a GALAXY which was ROSALINA’s place, I mean if that’s not a bad guy then, I don’t know plus it’s not that, bowser is portrayed as a villain because he wants peach, he wants power, he even have been shown multiple times to trying and conquering different kingdoms to get more power that could affect the entire universe or galaxy. Sure he HAS been shown teaming up with Mario and stuff to stop villains that will honestly affect his kingdom and peach’s but it doesn’t change the fact that multiple times he has invaded the mushroom kingdom again and again, turning peaches people into, stones, crystals or just LITERALLY murkiness them, even in Mario wonder land (forgot the actual name) pretty sure he CHANGED people to be evil with the wonder flower, forcefully but he atleast still have a heart, he mostly just cares mostly about his people and values them

  • @Shevtress
    @Shevtress Месяц назад +52

    What are you on about? Eggman never was about having revenge for a deceased person, he never cared about anyone until Sage.

  • @cragl3yman343
    @cragl3yman343 Месяц назад +173

    Makari Eggman didn't want revenge for a loved one at all.. That was Dr. Gerald Robotnik who is Eggman's Grandfather. He wanted revenge for Maria's (his granddaughter's) death. Maria is just Eggman's cousin and he honestly didn't give a shit about her. It was more like everyone ignored him because everyone cared about Maria first. Eggman never has really cared for anyone until Sage. He's a Megalomaniac who only cares about the world when it's under his thumb.

    • @reggielacey2235
      @reggielacey2235 Месяц назад +3

      He cares for metal sonic

    • @AmericanBrit9834
      @AmericanBrit9834 Месяц назад +27

      @@reggielacey2235Given he removed his free will, it’s less respecting him as an actual being and more appreciating him as a good tool.

    • @esteban8471
      @esteban8471 Месяц назад +10

      I think it was said somewhere Eggman didn't take the news of Maria's death super well despite never having met her. But even if that was true, yeah, Maria didn't really impact him to the same extent as his family. It wasn't until Sage that he started to genuinely care for someone else, unless you want to count his time as Mr. Tinker and Belle.

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 Месяц назад +3

      yeah its really vague as to WHY eggman wants to conquer the world and how much the tragedy of gerald and maria affected him, but far as we know maria's death isn't what's motivating him

    • @cragl3yman343
      @cragl3yman343 Месяц назад

      @sarafontanini7051 AS far as we know he's just a Megalomaniac who hates free will. Robots obey their creator. Any type of free will would be anti-Eggman

  • @Edurdong
    @Edurdong Месяц назад +33

    8:05 they HAVE killed off Nintendo characters before. The last being Link like 2 years ago. In the past they have killed Mario (the first Sonic vs Mario), Bowser (in Bowser vs Ganondorf), Luigi, Zelda, Ganondorf (in Ganondorf vs Dracula), Pit, Wario,Pikachu, Charizard 2 times (probably a third time now since Ash vs Yugi is confirmed to be happening in the future. Also goes for Pikachu),Venusaur and Red. These last seasons haven't had too many Nintendo characters featured so that's probably why there hasn't been any deaths since Link. Last season they only used Dimitri from Fire Emblem Three Houses and he won his episode

  • @cragl3yman343
    @cragl3yman343 Месяц назад +48

    33:15 Makari. Sonic has never done Multiversal things in the games. Solaris is a being that exists at all times at all periods at once which is considered multiversal in some cases. But Sonic itself hasn't really had 'Multiversal plotlines' where Sonic goes into alternate universes in the games. (Sonic Prime is different and is its own canon and I agree played out). But the most we've had is alternate dimensions like the Sol Dimension or Sonic meeting his past self. But that's about it.

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 Месяц назад +14

      the cost of complaining about shows you don't watch U3U

    • @A_literal_supernova
      @A_literal_supernova Месяц назад +2

      Yeah, we never got to see what in those timelines.

  • @Nolan65775
    @Nolan65775 Месяц назад +51

    A good comment on the OG video. 'Eggman has an army because he needs them. Bowser has an army because they need him.'

  • @LegendsofJaz45
    @LegendsofJaz45 Месяц назад +134

    Everyone knows that Sonic has some inspiration from Dragon Ball, it's no secret, but to say it's a straight up copy paste is disingenuous.

    • @CassiusStelar
      @CassiusStelar Месяц назад +33

      Yeah. Literally when has Goku ever put the planet back together by actively switching between his normal and Ōzaru forms and traveling to every continent? When has Vegeta ever fought his father to protect his family? When did Bulma ever hack a supercomputer using Dish soap and a toothpick?
      Sonic takes its inspiration and fucking runs with it.

    • @joshuahughes3377
      @joshuahughes3377 Месяц назад +12

      ​@@CassiusStelar
      Yeah, sometimes maybe even literally runs with it.

    • @cacophonythegoblin8381
      @cacophonythegoblin8381 Месяц назад +1

      I’m pretty sure super Sonic also pre-dates super saiyans

    • @joshuahughes3377
      @joshuahughes3377 Месяц назад +6

      ​@@cacophonythegoblin8381
      Actually, from what I searched up,
      Super Sonic came out in 1992,
      While the Super Sayian came out in 1991.
      Only a 1 year difference.

    • @LegendsofJaz45
      @LegendsofJaz45 Месяц назад +2

      @cacophonythegoblin8381 It doesn't but my point still stands

  • @owenkasaboski6902
    @owenkasaboski6902 Месяц назад +51

    the 3 sponsors make sense when you look at how fucking good the animation was

    • @cragl3yman343
      @cragl3yman343 Месяц назад +13

      @owenkasaboski6902 Plus they are independent now. Let.em get that bag

    • @l0sts0ul89
      @l0sts0ul89 Месяц назад +3

      Moro got a MASSIVE payday

  • @LokiThePug
    @LokiThePug Месяц назад +27

    40:03 The main villain and their evil minion laughing in a kid’s movie show after telling their elaborated scheme:

  • @the_man_you_have_searched_for
    @the_man_you_have_searched_for Месяц назад +33

    39:06 that's because the song is sung by victor borba, the same guy who sang bury the light from devil may cry 5 special edition

  • @fallenangelmaxthemad9
    @fallenangelmaxthemad9 Месяц назад +9

    The amount of times these two claim something that gets disproven seconds later or even was stated to be otherwise seconds before is honestly hilarious XD

  • @curtishamilton5342
    @curtishamilton5342 Месяц назад +13

    I have never heard so many L takes what the hell

  • @MonkeyGng
    @MonkeyGng Месяц назад +12

    8:47 I mean this with no disrespect at all but I literally tuned out this entire tangent while watching the video here and I had to rewind to even hear wtf it was you were talking about

  • @ghostspider2056
    @ghostspider2056 Месяц назад +92

    Eggman wasn’t out to avenge his dead relative, he was jealous of that the dead girl got more attention than him. His goals are to be on top of everything to satisfy his ego.

  • @GhostlyGhost333
    @GhostlyGhost333 Месяц назад +18

    38:15. Noticed they complain here. They do know it’s an army battle of them AND THEIR ARMIES, right? But yes, the music hits hard.

    • @demonkingacturus7118
      @demonkingacturus7118 Месяц назад +2

      Complain they teaming up and didn't noticed there's a whole army teaming with bowser ( ̄∇ ̄)

  • @Therealones745
    @Therealones745 Месяц назад +49

    23:30 wrong theses are the idw comics which are canon

  • @yamiliashirosia
    @yamiliashirosia Месяц назад +11

    31:00 "oh and he hates her" no he does not, he was literally grieving over her sacrifice and even at the end when he sees she's still alive he even says "that's my girl" I will not tolerate this slander

    • @tidianesanders2999
      @tidianesanders2999 Месяц назад +5

      It seems as thought neither of them know what they're talking about yet they (really just Makari) complain about the simplest things regardless of if it is true or not)

    • @yamiliashirosia
      @yamiliashirosia Месяц назад +3

      @@tidianesanders2999 I mean, makari I can let slide, it's just when I heard that comment I was like "Mmmm me angi" lol as sage is like dead ass what got me into the sonic series after I dropped it as a kid with sonic 2006 being my first sonic game lol

    • @AJ-Dan3
      @AJ-Dan3 21 день назад +2

      THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS LIKE THATS WHAT IM SAYING FR!
      RAHHHHHHHHH!!!

  • @endrylgoes2892
    @endrylgoes2892 Месяц назад +43

    a thing that I find interesting is that Sonic and Eggman can pretty much kill eachother at any given time, and they'll never do it because of there own principals and ego, meanwhile Mario and Bowser tries there HARDEST to kill eachother, but fail every single time either because they are blessed or insane strong

    • @cragl3yman343
      @cragl3yman343 Месяц назад +15

      @endrylgoes2892 Mario doesn't try to kill Bowser really. He just wins in whatever way he can. If that results in some skin melting lava? Oh well!

    • @nachonaitor5535
      @nachonaitor5535 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@cragl3yman343could that count as activelly trying to kill bowser?

  • @beatzdyer
    @beatzdyer Месяц назад +13

    The Makari ADHD really stopped her from paying attention to the part where it was two armies clashing instead of a 1v1 huh? I say this as another person with ADHD so I get it.

  • @robertchaney2704
    @robertchaney2704 Месяц назад +7

    31:00 Eggman doesn’t hate Sage she’s actually the only person he cares about at all. Also Eggman’s grandfather was the one who lost his child not Eggman himself. Maria was Eggman’s cousin. He became evil through neglect because his whole family was too busy mourning her to care about him

  • @Angelic-Tiger
    @Angelic-Tiger Месяц назад +58

    This fight makes you really respect Bowser.
    He's ride or die and so are his people.

    • @reggielacey2235
      @reggielacey2235 Месяц назад +3

      No, it doesn't

    • @Navman_
      @Navman_ Месяц назад +3

      Cry more

    • @slavic_viking9638
      @slavic_viking9638 Месяц назад +15

      ​@reggielacey2235 it is, Bowser isn't hiding nor afraid to stand on the front lines. He's a leader who fights with his army and would literally tank major attacks to protect his own people

    • @nachonaitor5535
      @nachonaitor5535 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@slavic_viking9638and thats why he IS the goat

  • @hayond656
    @hayond656 Месяц назад +14

    Idk what you mean by Sonic doing Multiverse and Parallel Universe stuff.
    Closest thing I can think of is the Storybook Games (Secret Rings, Black Knight) and Time travel shenanigans (Sonic 06).
    Storybooks are Spin-offs where Sonic is sucked into an existing Story and is then Spit back out to reality once the Story is finished. Sonic 06 Only scales up to "An Opponent Destroying Past, Present, and Future" and doesn't do Multiverse shenanigans
    Blaze the Cat is the only character I can think of, She's from her own Dimension. We don't know anything about it other than Blaze is a Princess from there and they Have their own Power Gems

    • @A_literal_supernova
      @A_literal_supernova Месяц назад +6

      Mario has done multiverse and parallel universe stuff as well. Mario and Luigi partners in time is the best example.

  • @lightstorm6534
    @lightstorm6534 Месяц назад +18

    Makari: Bowser isn't really the bad guy!
    Me: Hasn't he kidnapped a woman MULTIPLE TIMES in an attempt to force her to marry him against her will by threatening to destroy her kingdom and kill all it's inhabitants? I'm not so sure caring about YOUR people makes up for the devious shit he gets up too lol.
    #BowserIsJustMisunderstood

  • @TheMarioandSonicfan
    @TheMarioandSonicfan Месяц назад +21

    She says Death battle is scared that Nintendo is gonna sue them but both Mario and Bowser have both lost Death Battles so no they are not scared at all and its the Fans that are stupidly toxic over a fan made battle its not that serious people who are so salty they sent death threats to them and the hosts just say just don't watch it if you don't like it and they also block those people from commenting probably because I haven't seen too many comments that would get people banned from commenting.

  • @o0bookwyrmknight0o
    @o0bookwyrmknight0o Месяц назад +21

    Not me constantly watching this battle and peoples’ reaction to it because it just that good.

  • @ethanemerson4862
    @ethanemerson4862 Месяц назад +18

    Without prep time: Bowser wins.
    WITH prep time: now that’s a bit more even.

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 Месяц назад +3

      and if it was archie sonic, bowser'd be fucking dead

    • @ethanemerson4862
      @ethanemerson4862 Месяц назад +4

      @@sarafontanini7051 I’m assuming you mean Archie Eggman, but yes. He would.

    • @12Blast
      @12Blast Месяц назад +2

      With the way Death Battle set this up (eggman crashing the wedding), it makes it seem as if eggman had an unlimited amount of prep time while bowser had none, meaning eggman really should’ve won within 2 minutes.

  • @Brutalyte616
    @Brutalyte616 Месяц назад +31

    I won't fault anyone for not knowing this off-hand, but IDW Publishing took over the Sonic The Hedgehog comics in 2017 after the cancellation of the Archie Comics series, and while the comics have always been their own thing, IDW does incorporate the elements of the newer games into their story and treats them as things that just happened offscreen, so in a way the comics ARE canon, it's just that the comics have always been a bit more niche of a medium.
    The Metal Virus arc is also one of the first story arcs put out for the IDW Sonic run, and I must say it is a FANTASTIC story. Why? Because it starts with an amnesiac Eggman being a nice old man called 'Mr Tinker', getting his memories restored by a new villain, an Eggman fanboy named Dr Starline, choosing to NOT become Eggman, and then Starline refusing to live in a world without Dr Eggman and torturing 'Mr Tinker' until he not only reverts back to being Dr Eggman, he winds up being WORSE. How? 'Oh I'll just engineer a highly infectious techno-organic virus that turns all living creatures into zombie robots, and I'll start by DUMPING IT ON THE TOWN I WAS LIVING IN AS MR TINKER! THAT will let everyone know that Dr Eggman is back, better and badder than ever!' What follows is a series of events wherein Eggman nearly converts the entire planet into 'Zombots' as part of the opening act of his comeback tour. It doesn't work, but the experience of the robot-zombie apocalypse where damn near EVERY character, including Sonic, gets infected by the Metal Virus traumatizes the whole world so thoroughly that they're all genuinely terrified of Eggman again and not just going 'Oh god, it's Tuesday again... God I hope Eggman and Sonic are fighting somewhere else today...'
    God I love some of the stuff that comes out of the Sonic franchise.

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 Месяц назад +2

      correction: IDW is a seperate continuity from the archie one, hence why no characters from the archie comic have appeared or been alluded to in IDW, and rather than Freedom Fighters the heroes are collectively The Restoration.
      IDW is meant to be more canon to the games.

    • @Brutalyte616
      @Brutalyte616 Месяц назад +1

      @sarafontanini7051 I said that IDW took over _after the cancellation of the Archie comics series._ I never implied that IDW is a continuation of the Archie series. As for the matter of canonicity, the comics have always been canon, it's just that not everyone is aware of or keeps up with the comics. IDW is, however, more focused on incorporating the games into its canon than the Archie series was, because the Archie series kind of just did its own thing, which was still canon at the time, but not strictly related to the lore of the games at the time.

    • @nachonaitor5535
      @nachonaitor5535 Месяц назад

      ​@@Brutalyte616how can that " its canon but not part of the Game stimeline" make sense?

    • @Brutalyte616
      @Brutalyte616 Месяц назад

      @@nachonaitor5535 The games mostly exist as standalone titles and don't necessarily have their own continuous story. On paper the comics were supposed to do just that, creating an overarching narrative of what was going on between games, but they tended to run off and kind of become their own universes after a while that weren't strictly tied to the games continuity anymore, thus the continuity between the mediums was kind of lost. IDW is more of a return to form as it is, or at least was, using all of the modern Sonic games as part of its lore and trying to maintain consistency between the games in pursuit of a larger narrative, even if stuff in the comics like the Metal Virus don't actually feature in the games.

  • @ModernAegis
    @ModernAegis Месяц назад +7

    There are two kinds of commanders: Those who sit back and bark orders, and those who get in the field and protect their own.

  • @_Sage967_
    @_Sage967_ Месяц назад +89

    cant believe the revisionist history, Bowser IS an asshole and people who like him love him for how dickish he is towards people not in his crew and how nice he can be to his crew. Bowser could've tried establishing diplomatic relations but he never WANTS to do that, he wants Peach's buns
    Game theory really marred Mario's image

    • @boogie4552
      @boogie4552 Месяц назад +13

      This. So much for it’s just a theory right…..

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 Месяц назад +23

      yeah it's not even said anywhere that bowser's minions are mistreated by anyone, hell paper mario shows a village of goombas who don't like bowser!

  • @DracheLehre
    @DracheLehre Месяц назад +20

    Yeah, the VTuber you saw was Inugami Korone from Hololive. She’s been Sega’s Sonic Ambassador for a few years now

    • @MarqFJA87
      @MarqFJA87 Месяц назад +1

      The model she was using is much more recent, though.

  • @Brutalyte616
    @Brutalyte616 Месяц назад +35

    Well, Bowser isn't ALWAYS the villain. In damn near every Mario RPG, Bowser is either a mid-boss, or he's a full-on ally.
    Super Mario RPG, he takes a backseat to Smithy and even joins Mario as a party member.
    Paper Mario? Well he's the main villain of the first Paper Mario, but he's a midboss in Thousand-Year Door overshadowed by Grodus and the Shadow Queen, and in Super Paper Mario he's an ally against the illustrious Count Bleck.
    Mario & Luigi? Midboss in Superstar Saga overshadowed by Cackletta, midboss in Partners In Time overshadowed by Princess Shroob, and in Bowser's Inside Story he's unwittingly teamed up with Mario and Luigi to fight Fawful, which as far as I'm concerned makes Bowser's Inside Story one of the best Mario games of all time because Bowser is damn near the main character. Although Fawful DOES kind of steal the show...

    • @maxspecs
      @maxspecs Месяц назад +10

      By Dream Team he inverts this, though, actively stealing back the main villain spot from Antasima, and he maintains that spot through Paper Jam and Color Splash.

    • @CassiusStelar
      @CassiusStelar Месяц назад +1

      And in Sticker Star he could have not existed and nothing would change. God that game is so ass

  • @pietro4rri
    @pietro4rri Месяц назад +79

    The singer for the background track, called "Game Over", is indeed the same as Bury the Light from DMC5

    • @codyblack7496
      @codyblack7496 Месяц назад +4

      If I have a nickel every time death battle hired Victor Borba!! the same guy who did Bury the Light from Devil May Cry 5, I have 2 nickel which isn't a lot but it's weird and awesome that it happened twice!! Man this guy is a fucking legend mate.

    • @shadowslime3640
      @shadowslime3640 Месяц назад +2

      WAIT WHAT?! BRUH THIS FIGHT JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER

    • @lukewijen4045
      @lukewijen4045 Месяц назад

      What was the other one?​@@codyblack7496

    • @jacobfoxfires964
      @jacobfoxfires964 Месяц назад +1

      Now you may wonder why they brought him on. Why Victor would help in this specific death battle. WELL, Victor did also do a cover of Undefeatable before. So safe to say he has a history with Sonic, and would be down for to help out in this death battle.

    • @villageguardnpc7238
      @villageguardnpc7238 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@codyblack7496 Victor Borba also sang in Dragon Dance, another Death Battle track, but for Gogeta vs Vegito

  • @gefan8327
    @gefan8327 Месяц назад +15

    The Death Battle composers are Brandon Yates & Therewolf Media. The former did this song, “Game Over,” with the actual singer from “I Am The Storm That Is Approaching!”

  • @Mannyhdz0052
    @Mannyhdz0052 Месяц назад +9

    Uh, I don't think Eggman gave two shits about avenging maria. That was never on his list. Like he said, he never once met her and only knows of her because his family wouldn't shut up about the wasted potential she had when eggman was literally right there.

  • @TheDeath7ofsb
    @TheDeath7ofsb Месяц назад +10

    Music was made by Brandon yates, its original, Brandon makes all the deathbattle music including taking commissions for fan maxe deathbattle match up music

  • @sarafontanini7051
    @sarafontanini7051 Месяц назад +9

    correction: the comics referenced in the death battle are from IDW, NOT Archie, and the IDW Comics are LOOSE CANON, as in they're SUPPOSED to be in the same universe as the games largely. Meaning that YES, unless the games say otherwise, eggman DID canonically turn almost the entire world into metal zombies.

  • @azulesmalls5514
    @azulesmalls5514 Месяц назад +8

    Makari really likes talking shit on Sonic games without ever playing them.

  • @maximoarana5549
    @maximoarana5549 Месяц назад +20

    I didn't know Makari was such a Sonic Hater 😂.

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 Месяц назад +13

      definitely a case of complaining about shows you don't watch here,a shame

    • @maximoarana5549
      @maximoarana5549 Месяц назад +4

      She was even annoyed when saying that they have good music, like what did the God Slaying Furries even do to deserve this level of petty?

    • @Vyloka
      @Vyloka Месяц назад +8

      @@maximoarana5549theyre like this with just some stuff. I have 0 absolute idea why sonic specifically but it feels like its being disliked for being "over the top, too cringe, goes way too in for a silly hedgehog game" or in other words for a series being sincere with itself. Super upsetting

    • @fenorlex1126
      @fenorlex1126 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Vylokait's the Sonic fandom, I think. It's...diverse.

    • @Phantomcrustacean
      @Phantomcrustacean Месяц назад +2

      @@fenorlex1126 We’re long past that now, As a matter of fact, several sonic fans, either work for sega directly or work on the IDW comics

  • @StarScreamsalot
    @StarScreamsalot Месяц назад +10

    This fight was actually entirely hand drawn animation. At least I’m pretty sure. Everything was animated by hand which is so cool

    • @StarScreamsalot
      @StarScreamsalot Месяц назад

      Except the background. Thats 3d

    • @Edurdong
      @Edurdong Месяц назад +7

      Some scenes for Fury Bowser use his 3D model i believe but other than that it's all hand drawn

  • @titanictnt7476
    @titanictnt7476 Месяц назад +3

    40:36
    Not even. If you pay attention, not only is Eggman getting the hell out of dodge, he fired at his own troops as well as Bowser's. Pay attention. All the troops that ran away are Eggman's robots, not Bowser's minions.

  • @mysticlight5888
    @mysticlight5888 Месяц назад +5

    28:44 *sips tea* ya sure 'bout that with "Light Eggman"? *few seconds later* CALLED IT

  • @theimpossibros39
    @theimpossibros39 Месяц назад +12

    Wait… they actually think this is a Sonic ost? Wait till they meet Brandon Yates.

  • @thedarknessinthelight9824
    @thedarknessinthelight9824 Месяц назад +10

    31:00 Where did yall get this information? Cause that isn't true

    • @thedarknessinthelight9824
      @thedarknessinthelight9824 Месяц назад +1

      32:05 ONLY 3 things in Dragon Ball was copied in Sonic, and NONE of them have been from ANY Sonic game in the past 13 years.

    • @thedarknessinthelight9824
      @thedarknessinthelight9824 Месяц назад +1

      33:30 Do you not know that Mario ALSO has different timelines or do you not take Mario seriously enough for it to matter to you?

    • @idontknowwhatmychannelcall7733
      @idontknowwhatmychannelcall7733 Месяц назад

      Yeah have that guy play sonic frontiers
      Eggman love sage
      So much He stop every other plan he doing just to get her back in the ending of frontiers
      Yeah Eggman not winning father of the year but he not ones or ever hate sage

    • @tidianesanders2999
      @tidianesanders2999 Месяц назад +2

      The bias in this video is insane

  • @ghostspider2056
    @ghostspider2056 Месяц назад +10

    The Sonic games don’t dive into multiverse outside of Blaze’s dimension and Silver’s future. Even then they’re under utilised and there’s hardly any alternate counterparts.

    • @tidianesanders2999
      @tidianesanders2999 Месяц назад +1

      Silver's future isn't an alternate dimension but rather a timeline.
      Multiverses are technically canon due to Sonic Prime and the discussion Tails had about it. (I think, will need to recheck. Let me know if I'm wrong)
      Unrelated but I really hope we get a Blaze game and explore her world

    • @ghostspider2056
      @ghostspider2056 Месяц назад

      @ Aren’t alternate dimensions and timelines used as synonyms when discussing multiverses, even the Spiderverse film does it. In either scenario, you’re likely to find counterparts of characters.
      I the worlds in Prime were actually fragmented from the main one, so it’s not the same as the traditional multiverse, probably why it’s called a shatterverse instead.
      If anything, multiverse is canon via the lore in Archie comics, Sonic Boom and Underground, but the games hardly went as far as them.
      I also hope we get more on Blaze’s world as well as Silver’s.

    • @tidianesanders2999
      @tidianesanders2999 Месяц назад

      @@ghostspider2056 Alternate dimensions and timelines aren't used synonymously although the translations will tell you otherwise with how much they swap between the two. Timelines are set in the same dimension with different events happening(Current Classic Sonic). Alternate dimensions can have completely different things that would never exist in the main one. (Blaze the Cat and how she can be the "Sonic" replacement of her universe)

  • @broccoliben7961
    @broccoliben7961 Месяц назад +11

    I've already seen like 20 different reactions to the fight, the whole video is amazing

  • @SoupBoi96
    @SoupBoi96 Месяц назад +18

    I'm mad she didn't actually watch the next time part cuz Makari would be dying when she saw who the next fight is between lmfaooooo

  • @esteban8471
    @esteban8471 Месяц назад +2

    Comparing the soundtrack to DMC is so accurate since the composer got Victor Borba, the singer for "Bury the Light", to co-star. The Death Battle team really went all out with this episode.

  • @starsilverinfinity
    @starsilverinfinity Месяц назад +3

    39:11 Funny you say that, I recently learned that the vocalist for Bury the (fucking) Light is the same vocalist for this song (its called Game Over btw)

  • @gamester512
    @gamester512 Месяц назад +1

    Favorite moment: *"HOW DARE YOU! KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!"*
    Bowser isn't just a great leader who actually _cares_ about his people, he's also a great father. The moment Super Neo Metal Sonic hurt Bowser Jr. was the moment he signed his death (or maybe "scrap") warrant. You *_DO NOT_* hurt Bowser Jr. in front of Bowser if you value your life. Bowser _will_ make you regret it, or die in the attempt.

  • @slurpingmario8006
    @slurpingmario8006 Месяц назад +20

    Yeah you’re smoking something if you think bowser isn’t a bad guy, he literally just wants to take everything over because he can

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 Месяц назад

      and also cause he's horny for peach, which is a side thing

  • @elgigante2001
    @elgigante2001 Месяц назад +3

    Yeah, when Eggman was in his pink pajamas, he was watching Korone, who is the official Sonic Ambassador.

  • @cragl3yman343
    @cragl3yman343 Месяц назад +10

    So this video has confirmed something for me. I and a bunch of other viewers seem to share this opinion Makari. You as a content creator NEED to watch how you phrase things. Like these comments you make that are just false in every way throughout the video. If you're saying them in jest or as a joke I dont think people are laughing because you say it with such confidence. Every single time you have been wrong and it is beyond frustrating to listen to you react to something like this and spout bullshit thinking you have some authority on the subject. It makes it REALLY hard to want to like you when you just can't stop saying incorrect things and no one probably wants to correct you in your chat because they'd probably get their throat slit by others. I think you have good insights at times but you just REALLY need to stop saying things so matter of factly. You dont know what you're talking about and that's okay! I dont expect people to be knowledgeable about everything they watch. But it helps if you're willing to understand and learn.

  • @TalalHamidi-n8c
    @TalalHamidi-n8c Месяц назад +3

    how hard is it for people to watch a video they are watching

  • @ReikokuXTaifuu
    @ReikokuXTaifuu Месяц назад +2

    "If Bowser loses this I'm gonna say McGuffin."
    What... does that even mean? That makes no sense...

  • @TheObicobiHD
    @TheObicobiHD Месяц назад +1

    The *"GET A LOAD OF THIS!"* and *"SHOWTIME!"* were perfect 💜🎮🔥

  • @primrosevale1995
    @primrosevale1995 Месяц назад +2

    Here's some clarification:
    7:03 It has since been clarified that the Toads were turned into the ? Blocks.
    7:51 That crown only works on Toadette. The only one with interest in it canonically is Luigi.
    10:47 In that episode a minion was laying it on thick with his praise so Koopa said if he wanted his feet licked he'd ask for it....before promptly doing just that.
    12:19 Bowser Jr. is his only biological kid.
    22:34 Most of them are also *MINORS* Makari. Rouge is literally one of only three of the animal Sonic characters who are actually adults.
    23:59 The human designs of Sonic '06 weren't designed for that game, they were originally made for a cancelled RPG and repurposed for the game. Elise (the character shown on screen) was recently reillustrated in the modern artstyle and she looks normal.
    To be fair, those designs were probably one of the smallest things wrong with that game.
    24:53 Shadow the Hedgehog, the game, did not have hyper-realistic people. Hyper-realism was exclusive to Sonic '06.
    26:19 That is Inugami Korone of Hololive. She is actually the current Sonic Ambassador and has officially collaborated with SEGA multiple times. There is content based on her in Sonic Frontiers.
    30:38 As others have pointed out, Eggman never wanted to avenge Maria, he doesn't really care about her whatsoever. You kinda talked over that explanation Makari.
    34:10 This entire season is paid for based on crowdfunding and sponsorship money. They're basically an indie company now.
    34:28 Only Bowser appeared in live action in the past. Eggman has never appeared in live-action besides the recent movies. You said Robotnik was what made the Sonic movies good.
    "I'm getting mixed signals."
    35:38 The music here is original.
    37:50 He's half-right. Even if a Sonic game is complete crap the music is always phenomenal. That's just a given.
    38:15 The literal point of this fight is the two using their entire armies against each other.

  • @kevinsaga3525
    @kevinsaga3525 Месяц назад +8

    Why are you watching this if you don't know anything about both characters

    • @fenorlex1126
      @fenorlex1126 Месяц назад

      My thoughts?
      "It's interesting, so imma watch it."

    • @A_literal_supernova
      @A_literal_supernova Месяц назад +4

      I’m fine if someone watches a death battle about characters they don’t know much about, as long as they watch the analysis. But what I’m not fine with is her 💩 on Sonic when she doesn’t barely knows anything about him.

  • @DragonBlaze71
    @DragonBlaze71 Месяц назад +9

    I watch this like 10 times and it gets better every time

  • @samuelsgachaworld2.010
    @samuelsgachaworld2.010 Месяц назад +8

    Sage be working for Bowser now.

  • @AshtonWilliams-iu3cs
    @AshtonWilliams-iu3cs Месяц назад +4

    @MakariMORE you are horribly wrong about that
    Death battle is not scared nor will get a lawsuit
    Bowser is literally powerful
    Stop trying to create fake theories

  • @DarkMephiles
    @DarkMephiles Месяц назад +1

    Glad you're doing more of these. And you picked a great one to come back to. Everyone was hyped for this but I don't think anyone expected it to go this hard. For another good one I suggest Sam Fisher vs Solid Snake.

  • @soulcyclone360
    @soulcyclone360 Месяц назад +6

    This is one of my new all time favourite DeathBattles.

  • @heyguysxd
    @heyguysxd Месяц назад +6

    Nintendo characters did lose in Death Battle plenty of times😅.

  • @Dylpea
    @Dylpea Месяц назад +5

    Makari opinions are a 80/20 most of it being actual trash, she doesn't think when she watches stuff and she just assumes shit that doesn't even make sense, and her saying "mcguffen this" "mcguffen that" (my bad on not knowing how to spell it) and sonic copying dragon ball is also stupid. It's clearly being inspired. Her talking about multiverses is also stupid, it's not a multiverse. I just find it irritating and annoying. Though I won't stop watching because her other reactions are actually decent. (P.S. this is mostly about the writing of a story and or talking about a character's strength)

  • @lightninghawk1014
    @lightninghawk1014 Месяц назад +2

    its less that multiverse suck and more that the writers using them are lazy, execute them badly, and suck at writing in general.

  • @MrChava54
    @MrChava54 Месяц назад +1

    The song is actually one they created along with their usual music artist, Brandon Yates.
    Ever since a number of seasons ago, they create their own original tunes for each fight.

  • @ahritheninetailedfoxnaotos8246
    @ahritheninetailedfoxnaotos8246 Месяц назад +2

    8:21 Ahem Link vs Cloud 2, Mario vs Sonic (original), Luigi vs Tails, Pikachu vs Blanka, and Ganondorf vs Dracula (all Nintendo characters that have lost)

  • @grimreaper9121
    @grimreaper9121 Месяц назад +1

    Someone who understands why bowser protected his army.

  • @lambousginiguccigod2007
    @lambousginiguccigod2007 Месяц назад +1

    The timeline thing was mildly confusing in 06 but the stakes were *always* high.
    Solaris consuming all existing timelines means the Multiverse would be erased. Hell he even got stronger after that.

  • @jaxcraft2848
    @jaxcraft2848 Месяц назад +3

    12:28: You didn't listen to them say they were adopted. You were too busy talking. XD
    29:23: HA! 😂

  • @GAMM_SAGE
    @GAMM_SAGE Месяц назад +4

    The metal virus arc is part of the IDW comics which are canon to the game timeline so yeah the zombie thing is canon

  • @judie6727
    @judie6727 Месяц назад +1

    Music isn't from Sonic, it's a original song.

  • @cdesigner9178
    @cdesigner9178 Месяц назад +1

    The Metal Virus is actually from the IDW comics, which ARE canon. Confirmed with a mention of an IDW comic exclusive character in Sonic Frontiers.

  • @CassiusStelar
    @CassiusStelar Месяц назад +5

    Also, the sonic characters you were pointing to with your cursor when you called the cast hot are the lesbian couple the new comics introduced
    Oh, and they're not the archie comics, they're the canon ones made by IDW, the ones that follow the canon of the games and get referenced in Frontiers and Dream Team

  • @seh2cool
    @seh2cool Месяц назад +3

    that wasnt the archicomics, its the more up to date comics that take place after forces

  • @venom_spy_chaosgod
    @venom_spy_chaosgod Месяц назад +3

    12:26 Bruh, this is not, how adoption works!-_-

  • @wires-sl7gs
    @wires-sl7gs 29 дней назад +1

    Gerald Robotnik(Father or Grandfather of Maria) and Ivo Robotnik(Eggman) are not the same character, and they said Ivo was jealous of Maria/Upset all everyone talked about was her and not him, so yeah, not trying to avenge her.

  • @MarqFJA87
    @MarqFJA87 Месяц назад +2

    12:25 Uh, no. They literally said just moments before that his children are all adopted.

    • @tidianesanders2999
      @tidianesanders2999 Месяц назад +3

      The Koopa Kids are adopted. Bowser Jr. is his own flesh and blood

    • @MarqFJA87
      @MarqFJA87 Месяц назад +1

      @@tidianesanders2999 Fair enough, but the part I was commenting on is before Bowser Jr. was mentioned.

  • @Saijansfavorites
    @Saijansfavorites Месяц назад +2

    there have been death battles where Nintendo lost to Sega... don't forget Luigi vs Tails.

  • @ThePeaceBeWithUs
    @ThePeaceBeWithUs Месяц назад +2

    Love the reaction ❤ loved the extra lines and mostly pausing to comment.

  • @kenpachistory_maker06
    @kenpachistory_maker06 Месяц назад +1

    This fight is a battle of King Vs Tyrant and that is why Bowser won. Because Eggman fights for himself while Bowser fights for his people

  • @NoHandle44
    @NoHandle44 Месяц назад +1

    Mikari didn't even show the ending of the video where they showed Among Us vs Fall Guys. 😅

  • @cardinalhamneggs5253
    @cardinalhamneggs5253 Месяц назад +4

    04:36
    Jack Black is at his best when he’s playing himself, such as in _Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny_ or its pseudo-sequel _School of Rock._

    • @sarafontanini7051
      @sarafontanini7051 Месяц назад +3

      or playing characters that highlight his stregnths as a comedian or match his interests, such as Brutal legend or Bowser
      also school of rock came out BEFORE pick of destiny

  • @zevraluna1899
    @zevraluna1899 Месяц назад +2

    So, ironically, the power of friendship is how Bowser won.😂

  • @jaxcraft2848
    @jaxcraft2848 Месяц назад +1

    38:33: It's Bowser and Eggman AND their armies. XD

  • @genericyoutuber8098
    @genericyoutuber8098 Месяц назад +7

    Wow, you really just don’t listen do you?

  • @user-mz9xo3hx1h
    @user-mz9xo3hx1h Месяц назад +2

    Dont slander sonic when you barely know anything about it

  • @starkiller1289
    @starkiller1289 Месяц назад +3

    Sorry but as of Mario and Luigi Dream team it said the inside of Bowsers mind is a hellish wasteland and that is his perfect world. The dude is 100% evil he just has bouts of incompetence sometimes when Mario gets involved.

  • @Madness_78
    @Madness_78 Месяц назад +3

    Bowser is still a villain, it would probably suck to be forced to turn to bricks with my only escape being the fists of a plumber who may or may not be killing toads with that method because they can't turn back without Peach's Heart Magic. The reason she can't turn the toads back is because of the fact that she's not around because Bowser kidnaps her and either forcefully tries to marry her or eat her, either to get laid and/or use her Heart Magic. Although his care for his people really makes him a fun villain to fight and to play as. He's still evil, but he's still a father and a good ruler. So much so that when Mario and Luigi are forced to join Bowser to take on a bigger threat, Mario does not hesitate to do so because of how much of a good person Bowser is to his people. Luigi is usually scared for understandable reasons, but Mario and Luigi are pretty chill with teaming up with Bowser, even saving his life and following his lead if the situation calls for it.