This bow is more for hunting then Target though this bow it seems to be a combo of hunting and target for those who want to hunt with the exact bow the person might do bare bow archery and or possibly some ILF Olympic target bow shooting.
That 17" ILF riser has been available on Ebay/Aliexpress for a long time. The 'Nika' branding may be the only new bit about this bow. Also, I've seen seller warnings to not fit >35lbs limbs to this riser. I'm assuming failures are a potential.
First Ebay ad for '17" ilf riser' search states said warning. www.ebay.com.au/itm/17-ILF-Recurve-Traditional-Bow-Riser-Handle-Right-Hand-Archery-Shooting-Hunting/192444844329?hash=item2cce9b4929:g:9pgAAOSwVLRac8sG
Yeah, I've been shown previous models. Nika's only just stocking their rebranded model, but it's been out for ages. As a cast magnesium riser, it probably has that draw weight limit.
@@annchow396 A set of limbs rated at 35 pounds on a 23 inch riser. Would be 47 pounds on a 17 inch riser, plus or minus of course. Short limbs are safest choice with these. Medium are OK, long limbs get a little nerve racking.
@@nair.127 No it wouldn't. It's roughly 1lb per 1" of riser length. 17 is 6 less than 23, so would be +6lb heavier. 35+6=41lb @28". Why would long limbs be worse? If anything short limbs add more tension and vibration to the riser..
Ive had 3 of these risers. To anyone purchasing one make sure you get the riser with the grip Nu has in the video. They have a reddish color one which is the same riser but the grip isnt actual wood and is only hot glued on. Not actually bolted on. Ive heard people being skeptical of the mag riser but i have shot 50lb limbs on this riser and it had no issue holding up to the weight. I found what Nu said. Grip is very chunky but i got use to it and eventually came to like it. It is a punchy bow for sure. I really enjoyed these risers just didnt like all the chrome lol.
They are a good riser....my one is exactly the same and was £70 on Ebay, The very same riser is marketed by Cartel for around £140. I junked the handle and replaced it with a lower profile one which cost £10. I draw mine to 50# (which is above the recommended draw weight) with a draw length of 311/4". I use it for bare bow recurve at my EFAA club and having run 2000 arrows through it, it has been great fun.
I bought that bow and it would have been great to see a step by step how you assemble it since there is a part that was not clear to me in the instructions and it has been like 3 months that I have it without assembling (well partly it is because of the bad weather where I live that I can't practice yet)
would be interesting to get some info on the recent satori knock offs called Tbow and F166. I´d also like to know how you like the limbs that came with your recent bosen bow... those where foam and carbon mediums as far as i know. thank you for all the info!
im thinking of doing a review on the satori knock off as my first youtube video soon i ordered one and it came in and i will compare it to my actual hoyt satori
my daughter and I want to get into some archery. I know we should go with a light drew weight. We're thinking about ILF bows encase we want to move up the draw weight. We really will be using them at home, but would like to get more envovled with a club or something.. what would you reconmend for a leaser forever recurve bow??
Could just mount a bracket on it with a slot you could tighten a bolt to however you want. Actually used hardware store parts to "pimp" out a youthbow for my sister that had non standard fittings and fitting locations. Think was an early model bear brave 3. Was meant to shoot through a whisker biscuit or dropaway rubber flapper but built a bracket so it could shoot off cheap "all weather" rests. Looked pretty cool. Like 1980s state of the art competitive handgun mountings. Built a custom sight too. Took the tiny bell I had already (for both of our sanities)removed from my inherited cat's collar and some lamp parts to make a steampunk frontsight with a big single red catbell reticule. Also added a coin medalion to it that was her birthyear and gave it a samurai sword wrap. Was pretty bling for a youthbow. Also used a threaded rod and connector to make a very extended front counter weight with a probably recycled tire rubber dampener that came with a different model "40 lb" chinese bow than the "40 lb" chinese bow I gifted my brother in law. Actually threw a cheap fiberoptic 3 pin on it off another bargain bow,and ziptied a led glowstick on it to illuminate the sights. That one got the hockey stick grip tape treatment. Actually kinda miss it🤔 Was the centercut polymer "40 lb" one. Think got it so cheap because the berger hole was tapped too low but was actually pretty smooth out of the box off a stickon rest even trying to monster draw it. Just was kinda shock absorbing blob of plastic and fibreglass so was butter with just a bit of counterweight.
Miguel Diaz Yes it does! Look up “Nika ET-1” or “Nika ET-is”. It looks slightly different since it has notches cut into it. Go on Alibaba or AliExpress and message them. I’m ordering the left handed model myself soon.
Miguel Diaz Here’s the link, just request a sample. I bought mine for $120 including shipping. It’s a fantastic bow. The left handed model looks slightly different from the right handed one as you can tell. Also, you can request different grips and limbs if you ask them about it. Just let me know if you have any questions. Check out this product on Alibaba App Fiberglass Bow Lamination New for Fishing Hunt Takedown Bow f2rq3.app.goo.gl?link=app.alibaba.com/dynamiclink?touchId%3D60816509808%26type%3Dproduct%26schema%3Denalibaba%253A%252F%252Fdetail%253Fid%253D60816509808%2526ck%253Dshare_detail%26ck%3Dshare_detail%26shareScene%3Dbuyer&apn=com.alibaba.intl.android.apps.poseidon&ibi=com.alibaba.sourcing&isi=503451073&amv=69
@@kaushalbhardwaj9407 the video maker is very self absorbed. Sunshine suburb is a terrible antisocial area. Don’t trust anyone in the city and the country is full of spies. Sad but true. I’ve just been 3 times to the Springvale archery supply store and I’ve never been there before and I’ve had the most fowl disgusting things said to me. This whole industry is SO self absorbed it’s really disgusting. This fowl self ego behaviour is why I didn’t bother to sign up to the hobby back in the 1970’s. This recent generation think they’re so wonderful but they’re not even close to the nasty people of the 1970’s. They must be extremely desperate for anyone to run the sunshine archery club. The weed at that place are as big as a tree. There’s no community attitude, it’s all driven by self.
@@NUSensei Timber Creek is sold with 50# limbs, so cannot be the same if there's a 35# load limit elsewhere .... anyway looks like a nice riser ... have to find a seller that ships to my corner of the world
@@gigilaco that's still short of 50# also there's a difference in saying 35# load limit and 35# LIMB limit ... the first is the effective load, the 2nd one is adjusted to proper draw distance/bow size as you did ...
great vid!! since this riser has a bolt-on grip and since you made a point about how the grip is not the greatest fit especially if you have larger hands, are different sized/shaped bolt-on grips available from nika or other archery supply companies? also, you seemed to indicate that magnesium and aluminum risers are comparable for low end risers. if someone is trying to decide which to buy, what are the benefits of one over the other (or is this a topic for a separate video)? ... [edit] ... oops, my bad. just looked up your amazon link and was reading the stats on this riser. apparently the riser is an aluminum/magnesium alloy. is that true across the board or are there aluminum only risers? if there are 2 different styles, then i guess my question still stands. if not, then scrub the last question. -- thanks!
It's a terrible video. All of these bows are All about SAVING TIME, yet You're burrying those arrows and it takes you forever to dig them out of the target. YOU FORGOT all about tuning the bow to reduce arrow penetration in the target. You've got SO MUCH penetration power those poor arrows fly straight through the metal wall of the shed. This is superhero cartoon thrashing archery.
I’ve been looking at this bow, I’ve never bought a recurve before. I’m trying to find a bow for someone who’s 6’4” with a 32” draw length. Do you think it’s a good bow for someone looking to start?
Truthfully, I don't know. The riser is still cast magnesium, so I doubt these would be able to handle heavier weights for prolonged usage. Nika might be packaging heavier limbs without knowing about the riser's limitations.
I've given you enough time to realize your mistake and appologuise to us. 2 mounting screws means they're adjustable. Nowhere in the video does the bow get adjusted for depth of penetration of the arrow into the target. You people are REALLY uneducated. YOU explain to us WHY the designer wouldn't install a penetration adjustment feature?
I have only found this bow as this model and just the Riser for a few companies as a right hand only which stinks for the left eye dominate people of the world.
You missed your opportunity to adjust the tension of the string power. SO let's teach YOU, mounts have 4 screws. The bow designer took away 2 mounting screws for some specific reason. You're left with 2 adjustable mounts sometimes with a tiny grub screw on the side. (for locking purposes). Limbs are SPRINGS and they're adjustable. YOU adjust their tension form 30 to 50 pounds. It's 40 pounds with an adjustable range of 30 to 50 pounds. OR it's only a 40 pound bow with an adjustment range of 10 pounds from 35 to 45 pounds. Either way, you adjusted Nothing. YOU would just GO BACK to 4 mounting screws per limb, and add back the material you cut away installing those 2 adjustable mounts. This information implys your knowledge has been corrupted and is all wrong.
I laughed hard at " every time you buy 12 arrows you break 1 immediately" so so true
Just happened to me so totally true lol
@@Cyclingbluenoser same thing mate :/ on last tournament new arrow and boom i miss and hit some junk carbon just blow :(
No it's not SO TRUE.
You don't realize limbs are adjustable. Of course You're ruining arrows cause you disrespect the designer every day.
@@dreyn7780 what do you mean ?
@@hairutheninja no introductions, then questions don’t exist.
I love when you review non-target bows, more please.
This bow is more for hunting then Target though this bow it seems to be a combo of hunting and target for those who want to hunt with the exact bow the person might do bare bow archery and or possibly some ILF Olympic target bow shooting.
That 17" ILF riser has been available on Ebay/Aliexpress for a long time. The 'Nika' branding may be the only new bit about this bow. Also, I've seen seller warnings to not fit >35lbs limbs to this riser. I'm assuming failures are a potential.
First Ebay ad for '17" ilf riser' search states said warning.
www.ebay.com.au/itm/17-ILF-Recurve-Traditional-Bow-Riser-Handle-Right-Hand-Archery-Shooting-Hunting/192444844329?hash=item2cce9b4929:g:9pgAAOSwVLRac8sG
Yeah, I've been shown previous models. Nika's only just stocking their rebranded model, but it's been out for ages. As a cast magnesium riser, it probably has that draw weight limit.
The parts of these riser has been improved, it might be looked as the same, but it could hold under 55lbs limbs now.
@@annchow396
A set of limbs rated at 35 pounds on a 23 inch riser.
Would be 47 pounds on a 17 inch riser, plus or minus of course.
Short limbs are safest choice with these. Medium are OK, long limbs get a little nerve racking.
@@nair.127 No it wouldn't. It's roughly 1lb per 1" of riser length. 17 is 6 less than 23, so would be +6lb heavier. 35+6=41lb @28".
Why would long limbs be worse? If anything short limbs add more tension and vibration to the riser..
Ive had 3 of these risers. To anyone purchasing one make sure you get the riser with the grip Nu has in the video. They have a reddish color one which is the same riser but the grip isnt actual wood and is only hot glued on. Not actually bolted on. Ive heard people being skeptical of the mag riser but i have shot 50lb limbs on this riser and it had no issue holding up to the weight. I found what Nu said. Grip is very chunky but i got use to it and eventually came to like it. It is a punchy bow for sure. I really enjoyed these risers just didnt like all the chrome lol.
I also might add bear sold very thin mag risers in the 70s. They could handle up to 50lb limbs as well. these thick risers can handle it guaranteed.
They are a good riser....my one is exactly the same and was £70 on Ebay, The very same riser is marketed by Cartel for around £140. I junked the handle and replaced it with a lower profile one which cost £10. I draw mine to 50# (which is above the recommended draw weight) with a draw length of 311/4". I use it for bare bow recurve at my EFAA club and having run 2000 arrows through it, it has been great fun.
Looks like the riser ladybug adventures used in his video when he built a bow using bamboom limbs.
Yup same as the panther you had. They have rebranded that riser many times.
huuuge fan of the beard sensei, very nice
I bought that bow and it would have been great to see a step by step how you assemble it since there is a part that was not clear to me in the instructions and it has been like 3 months that I have it without assembling (well partly it is because of the bad weather where I live that I can't practice yet)
would be interesting to get some info on the recent satori knock offs called Tbow and F166. I´d also like to know how you like the limbs that came with your recent bosen bow... those where foam and carbon mediums as far as i know. thank you for all the info!
im thinking of doing a review on the satori knock off as my first youtube video soon i ordered one and it came in and i will compare it to my actual hoyt satori
could you possible review Samick Discovery please?
can you give me a suggestion as to which one to choose between sf axiom or samick avante
Get the message mate. Nobody is reading comments.
my daughter and I want to get into some archery. I know we should go with a light drew weight. We're thinking about ILF bows encase we want to move up the draw weight. We really will be using them at home, but would like to get more envovled with a club or something.. what would you reconmend for a leaser forever recurve bow??
Could just mount a bracket on it with a slot you could tighten a bolt to however you want. Actually used hardware store parts to "pimp" out a youthbow for my sister that had non standard fittings and fitting locations. Think was an early model bear brave 3. Was meant to shoot through a whisker biscuit or dropaway rubber flapper but built a bracket so it could shoot off cheap "all weather" rests. Looked pretty cool. Like 1980s state of the art competitive handgun mountings. Built a custom sight too. Took the tiny bell I had already (for both of our sanities)removed from my inherited cat's collar and some lamp parts to make a steampunk frontsight with a big single red catbell reticule.
Also added a coin medalion to it that was her birthyear and gave it a samurai sword wrap.
Was pretty bling for a youthbow.
Also used a threaded rod and connector to make a very extended front counter weight with a probably recycled tire rubber dampener that came with a different model "40 lb" chinese bow than the "40 lb" chinese bow I gifted my brother in law.
Actually threw a cheap fiberoptic 3 pin on it off another bargain bow,and ziptied a led glowstick on it to illuminate the sights. That one got the hockey stick grip tape treatment. Actually kinda miss it🤔
Was the centercut polymer "40 lb" one. Think got it so cheap because the berger hole was tapped too low but was actually pretty smooth out of the box off a stickon rest even trying to monster draw it.
Just was kinda shock absorbing blob of plastic and fibreglass so was butter with just a bit of counterweight.
Magnesium absorbs vibration. I think it's warmer to the hand than aluminium
will it come for a left handed shooter? cant seem to find this option.
Miguel Diaz Yes it does! Look up “Nika ET-1” or “Nika ET-is”. It looks slightly different since it has notches cut into it. Go on Alibaba or AliExpress and message them. I’m ordering the left handed model myself soon.
@@gigilaco Thank you, I will order one as soon as i find it.
Miguel Diaz Here’s the link, just request a sample. I bought mine for $120 including shipping. It’s a fantastic bow. The left handed model looks slightly different from the right handed one as you can tell. Also, you can request different grips and limbs if you ask them about it. Just let me know if you have any questions.
Check out this product on Alibaba App Fiberglass Bow Lamination New for Fishing Hunt Takedown Bow f2rq3.app.goo.gl?link=app.alibaba.com/dynamiclink?touchId%3D60816509808%26type%3Dproduct%26schema%3Denalibaba%253A%252F%252Fdetail%253Fid%253D60816509808%2526ck%253Dshare_detail%26ck%3Dshare_detail%26shareScene%3Dbuyer&apn=com.alibaba.intl.android.apps.poseidon&ibi=com.alibaba.sourcing&isi=503451073&amv=69
Hi expert is G10 or 11 suitable for crossbow limb or prob ? Because my country can't use proper material , need to diy one , thks expert....
Nika phoenix or Samick sage Elite2 which?
What is the length of the bow?
No answer in 2 years.
@@dreyn7780 hahaha
@@kaushalbhardwaj9407 the video maker is very self absorbed.
Sunshine suburb is a terrible antisocial area.
Don’t trust anyone in the city and the country is full of spies.
Sad but true.
I’ve just been 3 times to the Springvale archery supply store and I’ve never been there before and I’ve had the most fowl disgusting things said to me.
This whole industry is SO self absorbed it’s really disgusting.
This fowl self ego behaviour is why I didn’t bother to sign up to the hobby back in the 1970’s.
This recent generation think they’re so wonderful but they’re not even close to the nasty people of the 1970’s.
They must be extremely desperate for anyone to run the sunshine archery club.
The weed at that place are as big as a tree. There’s no community attitude, it’s all driven by self.
Is the shelf sloped for a reason?
Are you asking me?
On planet earth you pay people for their time you waste.
would you recommend this or the mandarin duck black hunter?
This bow feels like the Timber Creek Black Panther bow... Is it the same one, just rebranded for Nika Archery?
It is.
@@NUSensei Timber Creek is sold with 50# limbs, so cannot be the same if there's a 35# load limit elsewhere .... anyway looks like a nice riser ... have to find a seller that ships to my corner of the world
Lubos Soltes Does it sell with 50# limbs or a 50# draw weight? My Nika has 35# limbs but since it’s a 17 inch riser it has a draw weight of 45#.
@@gigilaco that's still short of 50# also there's a difference in saying 35# load limit and 35# LIMB limit ... the first is the effective load, the 2nd one is adjusted to proper draw distance/bow size as you did ...
Nice bow, but I really like that new quiver from Mandarin Duck. Looking forward to the review on it.
Nobody is reading comments.
great vid!! since this riser has a bolt-on grip and since you made a point about how the grip is not the greatest fit especially if you have larger hands, are different sized/shaped bolt-on grips available from nika or other archery supply companies? also, you seemed to indicate that magnesium and aluminum risers are comparable for low end risers. if someone is trying to decide which to buy, what are the benefits of one over the other (or is this a topic for a separate video)? ... [edit] ... oops, my bad. just looked up your amazon link and was reading the stats on this riser. apparently the riser is an aluminum/magnesium alloy. is that true across the board or are there aluminum only risers? if there are 2 different styles, then i guess my question still stands. if not, then scrub the last question. -- thanks!
It's a terrible video.
All of these bows are All about SAVING TIME, yet You're burrying those arrows and it takes you forever to dig them out of the target.
YOU FORGOT all about tuning the bow to reduce arrow penetration in the target.
You've got SO MUCH penetration power those poor arrows fly straight through the metal wall of the shed.
This is superhero cartoon thrashing archery.
Looks alot like the Galaxy Salvo riser you can get off of Lancaster Archery.
Theyre the same just rebranded
@@xfactoroutdoors165 good to know thanks
You mean the Galaxy Salvo looks a lot like this? 😆
I’ve been looking at this bow, I’ve never bought a recurve before. I’m trying to find a bow for someone who’s 6’4” with a 32” draw length. Do you think it’s a good bow for someone looking to start?
So is this riser the same as the older Ebay ones that say to use limbs under 35lbs? Or is it a new one that can use stronger limbs?
Truthfully, I don't know. The riser is still cast magnesium, so I doubt these would be able to handle heavier weights for prolonged usage. Nika might be packaging heavier limbs without knowing about the riser's limitations.
I messaged the seller about these on eBay and they said just upgrade the limb bolts for higher poundage limbs
Speed?
Would you test the galaxy salvo. Nika phoenix with longbow ILF Limbs
Is this a 58" bow?
Good review, thanks
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good info mate.....
I've given you enough time to realize your mistake and appologuise to us.
2 mounting screws means they're adjustable. Nowhere in the video does the bow get adjusted for depth of penetration of the arrow into the target.
You people are REALLY uneducated.
YOU explain to us WHY the designer wouldn't install a penetration adjustment feature?
I have only found this bow as this model and just the Riser for a few companies as a right hand only which stinks for the left eye dominate people of the world.
I see your anchor point! ;)
Pin nocks!
You lost some weight?
You missed your opportunity to adjust the tension of the string power.
SO let's teach YOU, mounts have 4 screws.
The bow designer took away 2 mounting screws for some specific reason.
You're left with 2 adjustable mounts sometimes with a tiny grub screw on the side. (for locking purposes).
Limbs are SPRINGS and they're adjustable.
YOU adjust their tension form 30 to 50 pounds.
It's 40 pounds with an adjustable range of 30 to 50 pounds.
OR it's only a 40 pound bow with an adjustment range of 10 pounds from 35 to 45 pounds.
Either way, you adjusted Nothing. YOU would just GO BACK to 4 mounting screws per limb, and add back the material you cut away installing those 2 adjustable mounts.
This information implys your knowledge has been corrupted and is all wrong.