I think BHA supersoldiers are actually broken. Great health, highest base speed of any ant, highest base attack speed of any ant, the execute move that can kill not only other ants but also small enemies, immunity to being picked up, the ram attack with mass stuns and knockbacks, and, of course, the nearly 50% chance to completely ignore an attack with no cooldown, and all that for 10 less food than a leafcutter major? Sure, they trip sometimes, and that’s an issue when you have few of them, but it’s much easier to get lots them than leafcutter majors due to the fact that they can eat anything, and don’t have to ramp their production up to be able to support majors. As for BHA majors, I think they’re okay. They’re only 1 food more expensive than an LBA soldier, have more health and attack than an LBA soldier at the same level, and they ignore 20% of an enemy’s physical damage resistance. They also harvest more at higher levels.
The lba have that confuse which can tear apart any army, sure they don’t have the health or damage but that confuse is invaluable. Also supermajors are great, my only issue is the cost. If they were cheaper I would say they’re op
I pretty much agree with the tier list, but I'll probably continue using all the ants available to me just for fun. I still use the Pheidole majors and Atta Mediae.
BTW I tested it and taunts have the ability to heal themselves when they taunt but I think it's the worst heal since there still taking damage while healing and plus the heal isn't the main point of their ability it's the taunt which agros all near by enemy's and it's only better then the trap jaws at lvl3 with the resistance buff
thanks for the tier list. I think the trap jaws are really bad though mainly because of their price. In a firefight the trapjaws may gain health back but the second they come back they die lol
The Army ant major is stupid powerful and has luckily been balanced in a way that make them expensive to use in terms of cost in resources and population. The buff that Army ants get however can almost reliably kill off an entire army with just 20 to 30 Army ant majors alone, while the rest of your population cap does whatever on the sidelines.
That’s the only reason I didn’t put them in a tier, the cost, they are the most expensive and tbh I think lba could easily take out an entire army of them
I tested a bit and i know the video is old. But i think the leafcutter majors are stronger. In arena they are the only ants (sometimes the big head too) which will defeat the fireants allways depending on the cost. So 100 leafcutter majors costs 15.000 food. With 16.000 you can build up 400x2 = 800 fireants. And on lvl3 the 100 leafcutters will always defeat the 800 fireants. The problem with the leadcutters are their slow progression and high maintance cost. The small ants are often called the weakest ants... but i think they are really the strongest, because they defeat the fireants too in arena. In free game its a different thing, because the fireants can rush every ant-nation and even if they do not so, they can growth up in strengh to fast, no ant will ever beat them. One reason is that with pervasive they have no maintance cost. So they can use all the food in new ants and can fight every food. Were other ants must repace casulties with food tzhe fireants must not. And that is what makes them at the end absolutely op. In the campaign i would more prefer the vangance-perk because if the lvl4 challange, especially in higher difficulty levels. I also do not like the army ants. They are to weak for their price. They are army ants, but their normal unit is to weak for a real soldier measured at the other soldier-ant (not the elite). And the majors of the army ants do really great damage. But they have to less health. So they lose (with the same amount of food) every fight against all other majors and the fireants. Their problem is, they have high damage.. i think the highest in the game... but nothing which can reduce their incoming damage. Big head and lead cutters have stun, fire ants have priceless reinforcements and double the numbers per tile. Also leadcutters have high amounts of health and big head an high attack rate and instant kill ability. The army major not. This makes the army major losing every battle against other high-end-ants in the game with the same amount of food. They are not worth the highest costs of an ant in the game.
Just found this video and I figure I might as well give my own opinions on this topic while I was here. I will say here that I'm doing separate sections on how species do in their "native" colony, and how they perform in the Story Ereptor colony (which will include the exclusive upgrades they get there). Going in order- Black Ant Soldier: C Tier seems to be fine for them, afterall they're just a baseline unit that all the others are compared to. The Attack Speed bonus they get at Level 3 and their natural AoE resistance makes them decent against some enemies though. Slavemaker Ant Soldier: Top of C Tier, while they are better than Black Ants in every way (minus Attack Speed, Black Ants do still win there)...that's only at Level 3, they have worst performance then them at Level 1 and about equal at Level 2, and with them costing a fair bit more food leads me to this decision. Ereptor Black Ant Soldier: With upgrades in mind, I'd say at least B, maybe even low A. Meatwall's Physical Resistance upgrade is very nice and combine that with Self Repair makes them pretty good at holding the front line. Wood Ant Soldier: Bottom of C/Top of F, I agree, these girls kind of suck. Hordes of workers arguably do their job better (at least in 2.2). Wood Ant Shooter: S Tier, they are very very good I don't need to tell you. Both of them do very well in the majority of situations, with Rapid Fire being good against larger enemies and Mortars being good against groups. Ereptor Wood Ant Shooter: Still S Tier, to the surprise of literally no one. Even better, their upgrades allows them to deal even more damage and gain some support capabilities. Trapjaw Ants: C Tier, their cost does hold them back a fair bit but other than that there's no major problem. They have decent health, good damage, and a very good regen (healing about 40% of their Health at Level 3 with their jump). Army Ant Media: B Tier, on their own not very impressive, but in numbers can be very deadly. Their biggest strength is probably how cheap they are to place and hatch, making them great to have a decent size army somewhat early. Army Ant Major: A Tier, their Flashbuff really makes them into a deadly threat in swarms, at maximum gaining up to +45 damage allowing them to shred just about anything. That said, in small numbers they're not to big of a problem (heck, stat wise they're fairly similar to the Leafcutter Media) Leafcutter Media: C Tier, I agree that they''re pretty expensive but from there they don't have any other issues (and in Leafcutter's case, once their snowball gets running they shouldn't have problems with placing them down). Good health, good damage, with some armor and piercing makes them pretty good fighters. Leafcutter Major: A Tier, Their extremely high health (especially at Level 3), high damage makes them pretty good as tanks. Their ability to either stun or taunt enemies also help them, and in the Taunt's case even regain a small amount of health back (about 7.5% at Level 3) means that they make good tanks with some combat and support capabilities. Ereptor Leafcutter Major: A Tier, with upgrades their support and tanking capabilities are expanded on, with Shockproof limiting the maximum amount of damage they can be dealt or further decreasing damage from small enemies with Durable, and then either Resilient or Sharp for ally support. Little Black Ant Soldier: S Tier, not only are they extremely cheap and easy to spam, but their Confusion ability alongside the Physical Resistance decrease it causes means that once there's enough enemies can essentially be stun-locked and won't be able to do anything. Big Headed Ant Major: F Tier, they're not too far behind the Little Black Ant Soldier in terms of price, but other than that they really don't have anything going for them. Big Headed Ant Supersoldier: A/B Tier, they have two big problems, their food cost and the fact they occasionally trip giving enemies a perfect chance to kill them. Other than that, stat wise they're pretty good (high health, good attack, surpisely high attack speed for some odd reason), and the fact they have two abilities instead of just one makes them even more dangerous. Fire Ant Soldier: A/S Tier, their stinger deals high damage that most enemies (at least most ants) do not resist, and their fairly cheap price as well as the extra ant they get at Level 3 makes them good swarm units. Pervasive I put at S since in most cases it is better, but Vigorous's buff when hatching makes them useful when attacking another colony or defending your own. Ereptor Fire Ant: A/S Tier, the upgrades focusing on the offensive capabilities makes them the go-to damage dealers for the colony, Last Laugh is notable since the Fire Ants are going to be dying so often to where the damage will begin quickly adding up. And that's all the ants currently in game, feel free to disagree with some of my decisions but this is how I currently feel on the species in game.
@@Stitchez_YT true bigheaded ant super soilder can stun and one tap leaf cutter majors and other creatures like nothing and cost 140 food have good attack speed aswell as good health I would put them in S tier
Last Laugh is just a perfect skill for fire ants since with how often they'll die, they act as "suicide units" to secure massive damage upon their death (paired with Pervasive, they can just keep on coming for more pain on the enemy)
1:28 *third most expensive* leafcutter majors are more expensive at 150 and bigheaded super majors at 140 (but leafcutters use fungus, not regular food)
anyone else that really wish we would get more realistic wood ants atleast when playing with the wood ant queen, in real life they are slow, powerfull, durable ants with what is essentially a melee aoe chemical attack (like the devils horsecoach beetle in the game) now we either go with the durable melee soldier that has no bite nor chemical or we go with the extremly fragile unrealistic looking range ant. you could keep them for the gene stealer but atleast give the wood ant queen some real soldiers it doesnt feel like ur playing as the actuall wood ants
that is true, but only lvl 3 mortars, that's 180 food + 6 more ants which equals 360 food, so 540 food for 1 lvl 3 spitter, and 5 lvl 1s, meanwhile in the LBA nest, they have raised 22.5 ants with the same food
I would put slave makers where you did. But they dont even steal eggs! I was so dissapointed when i had majors attack some colony and then got my slave makers to the brood areas. Guess what they did? NOTHING
Bro ranking them off of food price at this point yoir supose to rank it off of the ant its self not price your puttting broken ants in low tier because of price
in reality big headed majors(which are actually the workers) are extremely weak. i once made a war between a colony of pheidole megacephale big headed ants vs a colony of trichomyrmex destructor destructive trailing ants and the workers barely held the line. before the supersoldiers arrived the workers were immediately cut down.
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Slave makers are ass, loose to black ants 1v1 but cost more, sure at lvl2 vs lvl2 or lvl 3 vs lvl3 they win but the food difference is even bigger, worst ant in the game or second worst depending on your view on big headed ant majors
I have beaten 4.2 on insane with pervasive fire ants, so I guess you can beat one level on insane with pervasive fire ants.
I think BHA supersoldiers are actually broken. Great health, highest base speed of any ant, highest base attack speed of any ant, the execute move that can kill not only other ants but also small enemies, immunity to being picked up, the ram attack with mass stuns and knockbacks, and, of course, the nearly 50% chance to completely ignore an attack with no cooldown, and all that for 10 less food than a leafcutter major? Sure, they trip sometimes, and that’s an issue when you have few of them, but it’s much easier to get lots them than leafcutter majors due to the fact that they can eat anything, and don’t have to ramp their production up to be able to support majors. As for BHA majors, I think they’re okay. They’re only 1 food more expensive than an LBA soldier, have more health and attack than an LBA soldier at the same level, and they ignore 20% of an enemy’s physical damage resistance. They also harvest more at higher levels.
The lba have that confuse which can tear apart any army, sure they don’t have the health or damage but that confuse is invaluable. Also supermajors are great, my only issue is the cost. If they were cheaper I would say they’re op
Tbh I would put trapjaws in B tier bc of their healing ability and damage but they are expensive just ut opinion
For their cost, trap-jaws are the worst units at level three. They do better at level one and two.
I pretty much agree with the tier list, but I'll probably continue using all the ants available to me just for fun. I still use the Pheidole majors and Atta Mediae.
BTW I tested it and taunts have the ability to heal themselves when they taunt but I think it's the worst heal since there still taking damage while healing and plus the heal isn't the main point of their ability it's the taunt which agros all near by enemy's and it's only better then the trap jaws at lvl3 with the resistance buff
1:48 He forgor that leafcutter majors exist 💀 and also the BHA supersoldiers are the 3rd more expensive
Bruh media leafcutters can take out trap jaws, big headed majors, and army ants
thanks for the tier list. I think the trap jaws are really bad though mainly because of their price. In a firefight the trapjaws may gain health back but the second they come back they die lol
What will you rank the super major as on the Tire list
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The Army ant major is stupid powerful and has luckily been balanced in a way that make them expensive to use in terms of cost in resources and population. The buff that Army ants get however can almost reliably kill off an entire army with just 20 to 30 Army ant majors alone, while the rest of your population cap does whatever on the sidelines.
That’s the only reason I didn’t put them in a tier, the cost, they are the most expensive and tbh I think lba could easily take out an entire army of them
I tested a bit and i know the video is old. But i think the leafcutter majors are stronger. In arena they are the only ants (sometimes the big head too) which will defeat the fireants allways depending on the cost. So 100 leafcutter majors costs 15.000 food. With 16.000 you can build up 400x2 = 800 fireants. And on lvl3 the 100 leafcutters will always defeat the 800 fireants.
The problem with the leadcutters are their slow progression and high maintance cost. The small ants are often called the weakest ants... but i think they are really the strongest, because they defeat the fireants too in arena. In free game its a different thing, because the fireants can rush every ant-nation and even if they do not so, they can growth up in strengh to fast, no ant will ever beat them. One reason is that with pervasive they have no maintance cost. So they can use all the food in new ants and can fight every food. Were other ants must repace casulties with food tzhe fireants must not. And that is what makes them at the end absolutely op. In the campaign i would more prefer the vangance-perk because if the lvl4 challange, especially in higher difficulty levels.
I also do not like the army ants. They are to weak for their price. They are army ants, but their normal unit is to weak for a real soldier measured at the other soldier-ant (not the elite). And the majors of the army ants do really great damage. But they have to less health. So they lose (with the same amount of food) every fight against all other majors and the fireants. Their problem is, they have high damage.. i think the highest in the game... but nothing which can reduce their incoming damage. Big head and lead cutters have stun, fire ants have priceless reinforcements and double the numbers per tile. Also leadcutters have high amounts of health and big head an high attack rate and instant kill ability. The army major not. This makes the army major losing every battle against other high-end-ants in the game with the same amount of food. They are not worth the highest costs of an ant in the game.
Just found this video and I figure I might as well give my own opinions on this topic while I was here. I will say here that I'm doing separate sections on how species do in their "native" colony, and how they perform in the Story Ereptor colony (which will include the exclusive upgrades they get there). Going in order-
Black Ant Soldier: C Tier seems to be fine for them, afterall they're just a baseline unit that all the others are compared to. The Attack Speed bonus they get at Level 3 and their natural AoE resistance makes them decent against some enemies though.
Slavemaker Ant Soldier: Top of C Tier, while they are better than Black Ants in every way (minus Attack Speed, Black Ants do still win there)...that's only at Level 3, they have worst performance then them at Level 1 and about equal at Level 2, and with them costing a fair bit more food leads me to this decision.
Ereptor Black Ant Soldier: With upgrades in mind, I'd say at least B, maybe even low A. Meatwall's Physical Resistance upgrade is very nice and combine that with Self Repair makes them pretty good at holding the front line.
Wood Ant Soldier: Bottom of C/Top of F, I agree, these girls kind of suck. Hordes of workers arguably do their job better (at least in 2.2).
Wood Ant Shooter: S Tier, they are very very good I don't need to tell you. Both of them do very well in the majority of situations, with Rapid Fire being good against larger enemies and Mortars being good against groups.
Ereptor Wood Ant Shooter: Still S Tier, to the surprise of literally no one. Even better, their upgrades allows them to deal even more damage and gain some support capabilities.
Trapjaw Ants: C Tier, their cost does hold them back a fair bit but other than that there's no major problem. They have decent health, good damage, and a very good regen (healing about 40% of their Health at Level 3 with their jump).
Army Ant Media: B Tier, on their own not very impressive, but in numbers can be very deadly. Their biggest strength is probably how cheap they are to place and hatch, making them great to have a decent size army somewhat early.
Army Ant Major: A Tier, their Flashbuff really makes them into a deadly threat in swarms, at maximum gaining up to +45 damage allowing them to shred just about anything. That said, in small numbers they're not to big of a problem (heck, stat wise they're fairly similar to the Leafcutter Media)
Leafcutter Media: C Tier, I agree that they''re pretty expensive but from there they don't have any other issues (and in Leafcutter's case, once their snowball gets running they shouldn't have problems with placing them down). Good health, good damage, with some armor and piercing makes them pretty good fighters.
Leafcutter Major: A Tier, Their extremely high health (especially at Level 3), high damage makes them pretty good as tanks. Their ability to either stun or taunt enemies also help them, and in the Taunt's case even regain a small amount of health back (about 7.5% at Level 3) means that they make good tanks with some combat and support capabilities.
Ereptor Leafcutter Major: A Tier, with upgrades their support and tanking capabilities are expanded on, with Shockproof limiting the maximum amount of damage they can be dealt or further decreasing damage from small enemies with Durable, and then either Resilient or Sharp for ally support.
Little Black Ant Soldier: S Tier, not only are they extremely cheap and easy to spam, but their Confusion ability alongside the Physical Resistance decrease it causes means that once there's enough enemies can essentially be stun-locked and won't be able to do anything.
Big Headed Ant Major: F Tier, they're not too far behind the Little Black Ant Soldier in terms of price, but other than that they really don't have anything going for them.
Big Headed Ant Supersoldier: A/B Tier, they have two big problems, their food cost and the fact they occasionally trip giving enemies a perfect chance to kill them. Other than that, stat wise they're pretty good (high health, good attack, surpisely high attack speed for some odd reason), and the fact they have two abilities instead of just one makes them even more dangerous.
Fire Ant Soldier: A/S Tier, their stinger deals high damage that most enemies (at least most ants) do not resist, and their fairly cheap price as well as the extra ant they get at Level 3 makes them good swarm units. Pervasive I put at S since in most cases it is better, but Vigorous's buff when hatching makes them useful when attacking another colony or defending your own.
Ereptor Fire Ant: A/S Tier, the upgrades focusing on the offensive capabilities makes them the go-to damage dealers for the colony, Last Laugh is notable since the Fire Ants are going to be dying so often to where the damage will begin quickly adding up.
And that's all the ants currently in game, feel free to disagree with some of my decisions but this is how I currently feel on the species in game.
I’m hunting you for put big headed ants super soldier so low
@@Stitchez_YT true bigheaded ant super soilder can stun and one tap leaf cutter majors and other creatures like nothing and cost 140 food have good attack speed aswell as good health I would put them in S tier
@@resurrectedhelicoprion lol
@@jaredkanju2064 They can’t one tap Leafcutter Majors, they’re immune.
Your thinking of the Leafcutter Media.
Last Laugh is just a perfect skill for fire ants since with how often they'll die, they act as "suicide units" to secure massive damage upon their death (paired with Pervasive, they can just keep on coming for more pain on the enemy)
One thing about the leaf cutter media, they only take 6 food to hatch. Still wouldn't spam them, though.
agreeable with the little black ants lol but they can survive for so long you are basically invincible
1:28 *third most expensive* leafcutter majors are more expensive at 150 and bigheaded super majors at 140 (but leafcutters use fungus, not regular food)
Remember during a stream I talked about how a leafcutter media was overpriced ;)
anyone else that really wish we would get more realistic wood ants atleast when playing with the wood ant queen, in real life they are slow, powerfull, durable ants with what is essentially a melee aoe chemical attack (like the devils horsecoach beetle in the game)
now we either go with the durable melee soldier that has no bite nor chemical or we go with the extremly fragile unrealistic looking range ant.
you could keep them for the gene stealer but atleast give the wood ant queen some real soldiers it doesnt feel like ur playing as the actuall wood ants
I did not even think little black ants are good because I just vaporize them with range units lol (hard counter)
that is true, but only lvl 3 mortars, that's 180 food + 6 more ants which equals 360 food, so 540 food for 1 lvl 3 spitter, and 5 lvl 1s, meanwhile in the LBA nest, they have raised 22.5 ants with the same food
@@ShepherdsPieGaming yeah I guess the little black ants cheapness makes them good, though they are made of paper.
You knew who you were talking about when you said “I’m going to make a lot of people mad”
Bye the way I’m coming to your house for this :)
again if they were the leafcutter price tag I might have given them s tier
@@ShepherdsPieGaming Big-Headed ant majors are 10 food cheaper then leafcutter majors. So, they are the 3rd most expensive ant.
I would put slave makers where you did. But they dont even steal eggs! I was so dissapointed when i had majors attack some colony and then got my slave makers to the brood areas. Guess what they did?
NOTHING
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poor bigheaded major :(
8:17 1 off the tanks i think i think wif Black ants (the biger 1)
Powerful
This was a little offensive to the people who like the f tier ants like me😢
It's not that I don't like the medias, I just think they're too expensive for what they are. Big headed majors are actual garbage though
The wood ants melee got a lot of hp, but why did you say that the melee wood ants got no hp! 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
I probably meant to say damage, good health but they have the attack of a worker
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Stop the cap leafcutter ant major #2 big headed ant supersoldier #3 most food to buy
Bro ranking them off of food price at this point yoir supose to rank it off of the ant its self not price your puttting broken ants in low tier because of price
in reality big headed majors(which are actually the workers) are extremely weak. i once made a war between a colony of pheidole megacephale big headed ants vs a colony of trichomyrmex destructor destructive trailing ants and the workers barely held the line. before the supersoldiers arrived the workers were immediately cut down.
Good to know even in real life they are d tier
Do colony to play as
if fire ants ant s i will kill you
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Slave makers are ass, loose to black ants
1v1 but cost more, sure at lvl2 vs lvl2 or lvl 3 vs lvl3 they win but the food difference is even bigger, worst ant in the game or second worst depending on your view on big headed ant majors
I hate this tier list
This is the worst tier list( my opinion about his tier list )