Chicago woman says stranger moved into Chatham home, refuses to leave
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- Опубликовано: 6 июн 2022
- A Chicago woman says a stranger moved into her vacant Chatham property and is refusing to leave, and police say they can't do anything about it. FULL STORY: abc7.ws/3xb1v41
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Squatters have more rights than owners! Madness!
it's jungle out there !!!
In liberal states, yes.
usa freedoms
They got addicted to rent moratoriums. Squatter will get evicted after a year then continue the scam again. Blame the judges who let this happen over and over again.
@@jeretso judges are responsible for rent moratorium. I believe it is the government. Judges just enforce the laws 🤷♂️
People don't get it. This is exactly the type of anger that would drive a normal law abiding person to commit a crime against someone.
It is. And sadly, they would likely be punished for it.
But the better way is for us to get together & make politicians pass better laws & create more resources for homeless & affordable housing
if you do what needs to be done here ...make sure they cant prove anything
Yeah u can tell these are good people trying to be nice
Yup, I think I could.😬
@Christopher Jacobs wow u must got connections. But that’s the way to do it these days which is sad. Trying to do things the right way gets u no where
The squatter faked the lease 1000% because if she didn’t, why wouldn’t she communicate with the homeowner and make plans to leave after she realized they were both scammed? She did the scamming. That’s why.
True
Agreed. This is likely true. I would sue her if thats the case to recover costs.
I know a guy who did this back in the 80s.
8k is a lot of money.
Most than many have on hand.
If she's broke or close to it-what is she to do?
You are so right!
sounds right to me. If she didn't, she would be able to show the receipts, bank statements of the rent payments. Doubt anyone would pay 8k in cash. If she is paying in cash, she would then be able to tell the police who is she paying to. What a bizarre story.
The fact that the woman living there won’t even talk to her makes it clear that she is the scammer. If she had done nothing wrong she feel sorry for the real owner and be willing to work with her. Laws about squatters need to changed to protect the homeowner. This is ridiculous.
These laws definitely need to be changed!!!
The fact that the owners said they would give her 2000.00 back shows they took her money.. Now they wanna cry victim cause she playing by their rules in their house..
@@zteia7060 Do you have any logic? The owners need to sell the house but the blue state has over 12 months backlog of eviction, thanks to the JB. The owner wants his home back sooner. It's how crazy democRATs have empowered squatters and scammers around the country.
@@allenuic Seems I have more logic than you, seeing thru the land owners bull.. FYI: I'm fully aware of the financial aftermath of tenants, all procedures. You have some landowners that scam and some forced to deal with squatters.. They fit the scammer mode and now crying victim, to sad..
Again the law abiding citizen gets screwed.
Crook County exists for the benefit of the crooks
Find out who she is and become her worst nightmare.
@Smoke King how do you know she black? Did I miss something?
@Smoke King I guess me and your momma twins then :)
@Smoke King Not really when you take into account how many Black people are paying good money to live in slums, how many have been taken by fake rental scams, how much real estate has been stolen by moneyed interests (there's litigation in these matters even now to get it returned).
Also, how many nonBlack people do these kinds of things. You are narrow minded but I've lived all over the world & America. Squatters are everywhere
She didn't give nobody $8000
Of course not. She said that, so that the owner couldn't say, " Alright, pay me rent.
Exactly who pays $8000 for a month to month? Makes no sense
How u know?
@@EpiphanysFaithPolitics especially for a tiny house like that picture
The reason why they don't do anything about squatters is that they generate money for the courts. I suggest you hire a P.I. to stake out the property. Soon as the person leaves, break BACK into your home (for which you have the legal deed to) change the locks and store their belongings off site. When they call the police on you, you show them your deed. Then have a 24 hour house sitter til the property is sold.
Armed security.
Or it's a human rights issue. Owning property you don't live in is a crime against humanity; at least until 100% of people are housed.
Unfortunately we need house sitters to stop these crooks! Shame the law takes so long to settle this stuff. There are ways to get her out...shameful
@@brendalenoir2840 What is more shameful is when people own more than one home when there are people without homes.
@@Anon0nline Unless the owner allows a _responsible, dependable, and creditworthy_ family member or friend to rent his/her property. Problem solved.👍
It’s way past time for the laws regarding this to change. The homeowner should not have to go through this kind of grief.
True!!!!
It's for the money. This should be very easy to solve, and remove her from the property. They just want people the homeowner to pay, disgrace. Anyone can make a lease, she has to show proof how long she lives there, received mail there, utility bills. Ask the neighbors if they seen her, I thought they had to be openly living there not hiding in the house. Seems this woman was hiding in there. Any idea the damage they can be done to her home and the landlord will have to also pay for that.
Right, no one should be allowed to "own" more than one home in a world where not 100% of people are housed yet, on limited land, mind you. To think there are monsters whom care more about money than human beings. The nerve. Land owners all deserve to be tried for their collective crimes against humanity.
@@Anon0nline forget how many houses ppl own let’s be honest there’s plenty of empty houses & apartments to house every homeless person
@@newflower8974 Yes, so people shouldn't be complaining when people move it.
Guarantee you that if this situation happened to a cop or a judge, this nonsense would end pronto
Yep, they'll draft a new law the next morning.
@@jeffmiller9798 Do you know how laws get implemented ?? Cops and Judges don't draft laws, they aren't even the ones responsible for implementing new laws.
It happens to them too but some use fake sheriffs with badges to evict the squatters. The laws must change to avert a tragedy.
Dead right. Unless it happens to politicians, they will not do anything it
@alifer canimper I think you would fit very well at marlago with the crocodiles and trump
she should have Criminal Charges for falsifying a Lease
One of these Craigslist scammers may have given her access and the fake lease
@@weekendnomad5038 Why are you defending her? She claims to have a month to month lease and refuses to speak with the real owner. That is enough to prove that she knows what she is doing.
@@WarofThoughts Not with a defense attorney. I agree its suspicious.
I volunteer with homeless people, of all kinds, & sometimes people do these false rental scams. But yeah, they tend to be quick to try to find the person who sold them the house, the lease, etc.
And for stealing /house jacking.
If they had immediately reported it as solely a break in then the police probably would have investigated but the moment they said the woman had been squatting game over civil matter it is which is BS but that's the legal system
If the lady in the house actually did this, she should tread lightly. She may run across another person that is not as civil and wind up hurt for being stupid. A lot of people are unhinged these days.
I’d go in there with a “friend” and forcefully take her and her things out. If she had pictures of herself and her belongings in my house, well, the police isn’t a judge right?
Dead more likely
I would be in jail.
I would blow their head off if they in my house!!! I'm tired and I'm not the one. I would do it in the dead of night.
If I were the owner I'd end up In prison, I'd sit and wait for the squatter to come outside and take her down.
There are way too many people in this country who think they are entitled to other people's things. It's everywhere. They get insulted if you tell them that they have no right to do that.
I agree. From where did this ideology emerge? In the 1400’s when Europeans arrived and “discovered” land on which people already lived.
@@VoltairesRevenge lol good one!
Our legal system in country is really messed up, You can rent a car with all the proper paper work and still be arrested if the rental company claims the car has been stolen. Someone can move into a empty house and show a fake lease and police can not do anything about it. Something is very wrong with the legal system that allows this type of thing to happen.
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!
Doesn't make sense at all 🤔
it's like living in jungle !!!!
People rent a car for a day and don't return it and have absolutely no intent of ever giving the rental company another dime. I know several members of the same family that has done this a number of times. If that isn't stealing I don't know what is. As far as the house goes people know that they can move in and have a place to live for several months and get money from the landlord to move again and rip somebody else off. Like they said the police have no way of knowing if the papers are fake or not. People just have no morals anymore they're disgusting and where did this woman get so much money that she can afford to put $8,000 down to rent a crummy house in a bad neighborhood. Who knows maybe it's karma and the woman who actually bought the house bought it with ill gotten means herself.
@@lindaterry637 You identified the problem. Just as money has watermarks & seals & many IDs & driver's licenses have other identifying marks, there needs to be a NATIONAL database & symbols of ownership of titles & cars, so they are readily identified as stolen.
@@lindaterry637 As to the 8k, people live in cars or shelters for a year or more to save money to pay down on a house or car.
I volunteer with homeless & nomadic people & this is common.
Lmao!! The "renter' gave $8K?? How many renters have $8K???
@@Babararoot55 👋
@@Babararoot55 u tell me first :)
Here in Texas, in Frisco, Plano & McKinney MANY honest people rent homes for that much & more. In California, too. Good grief.
Clearly YOU'VE never had to be a renter! With rents going up all the time plus the need for 1st mo last month and 1 mo security UP FRONT it doesn't take long to get into the multiple thousands of dollars for a potential rental property.
That woman who was scammed gave $8k to purchase that home it sounds like it was a rent to own scam.
Am I the only one who fines it ironic that there's nothing the police can do because of a fake lease.
Yet, you rent a car from Hertz or van from u-haul and show them the contract you still get thrown in jail for weeks
It happens all the time in a lawless country and a leftist American city.
These days the criminal have all the rights. Squatters shouldn’t have any rights AT ALL to someone else’s property, such bs.
Id give them 1 RIGHT and a FLURRY of LEFTS, with a CROWBAR...LOL
Owning property you don't live in is a crime against humanity; at least until 100% of people are housed.
@@Anon0nlinewhat a dumb concept. Did you ever consider the home being in need of repair or being a rental? Smh People have the right to buy whatever they work for.
@@Anon0nline A glorious revolutionary statement for The Party
@@waterheaterservices I'm not part of any political party. I'm not an ideologue, I'm an epistemologist. You should try it instead of engaging in bulverism; not that you know what that is or even how to use google to look it up.
This is disgusting, I can't believe they cant get help her get this person out
Karma for all the landlords wrong doing.
Numerous landlords be keeping good tenants deposits even after taking care of the place.
@@winning3329 You don't know that. That scumbag woman squatter will get her carma when she is out on her azz and now it's documented.
No the person who is in the house has been scammed.
They can. Just kick them out forcefully. Then go to court and explain why physical force was used. Plus this type of case would be speedy because it's treated as a assault and not a civil matter.
@@leocardenas7306 well I understand what you saying. It’s possible if you don’t care about serving time.
unbelievable that squatters have more rights than homeowners 😤
Believe it!
Not really and not everywhere
They only have rights because you can't prove they didn't pay. However, if you walk into your home and someone's in there, fear for your life. Then call the police.
They don't with the proper due diligence...
Most states
I used to work with a guy who owned rental property. Instead of dealing with the eviction b.s. he had a motorcycle gang terrorize the renters until they moved out...not ethical, but effective.
Yeah.he sounds like a real prince.
Dwl tbh desperate times and all
Still, not illegal either.
Awesome!
@@bs4real TFB, far as I'm concerned. Lol
Sometimes you can't leave it up to the courts. Take matters into your own hands
And go to jail or get sued.
Brilliant alternatives.
@@patrickturner2417 you think too small there bud
@@patrickturner2417 if the property is yours, you can shoot them & say they attacked you. The castle doctrine will protect you. Problem solved for you & society at large
@@patrickturner2417
Prove it. Now you'll see how it feels..
@@elpimp5419 well, the owner is on record for calling the cops about the scumbag.....now shes on the news complaining about the scumbag....if anything happens to the scumbag, or her property, guess who all the fingers are going to point to.
I'd say the case would be wrapped up after about a two hour investigation.
The woman in the house knows that the worst that can happen to her is that she's evicted. She won't go to jail, so this is the perfect crime.
WROOOOONG
@@keithalan8720 Forged signatures are a huge crime. Unless someone rented it to her fraudulently. How do you know if you rent an apt and leave a deposit it is legit? Pretty screwed.
Not true. If the lease is forged, and she can prove it in court, the woman can be charged with forgery/fraud. That's not hard.
@@DIVISIONINCISION how can they prove it though? I would be SO pissed off
Do it to the right person, she'll find out the worse.
Ya see this is what would drive a person to kill someone or do something violent. This is a vile act and very evil to do to someone….
Signing a fraudulent lease. IS breaking the law. The home owner didn’t create or sign those documents.
Surely this woman has the deed to this house and can prove ownership.
ownership is not being contested, the false lease must be proven in court to be false. Maybe she can evict her for non payment of rent? The squatter cannot produce receipts with the owners signature unless she is an excellent forger. I wonder what the owner can do about HER personal effects that may be in the home. Sounds like a recipe for further trouble, ID theft.
@@limpingoatfarm
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In the mean while this squatter will live rent free for months if not years until she is legally evicted.
The squatter will destroy the inside of that house before she leaves, most people in blue states are trash.
@@limpingoatfarm
Right, but even in the "non payment" situation, you can't just throw someone out right away. My dad had rental property and one of his tenants just refused to pay and it took him six months to finally kick her out.
There's only one real solution here, and it's simple: if you're going to have vacant property that you're selling, you need to have cameras that alert you. Someone..
* approaches your house
* opens the door.
* opens a window
* walks inside your home
Imagine this thief walking to your house and you immediately respond with, "Hi, can I help you?" That will immediately end this right away. If they ignore you and try to pick the lock, you'll be there the same day with cops to toss them out, with the video footage as proof. It's unfortunate, but in this day and age, you have to be super smart, because someone is always, always ALWAYS trying to rob you.
I think it’s time to make the scammer uncomfortable to point where they want to leave 🤷🏽♀️
Street justice for sure.
Or, the owner could pretend to be a door-to-saleswoman, knock on the door, and then when the woman inside answers the door she can push her way inside and force the squatter out, locking the door behind her. When the squatter refuses to leave the property, the owner can call police and have the woman arrested for trespassing and attempted B&E. The owner can then change the locks again and get a burglar alarm installed.
@@polkadots716 The owner would get arrested, since the squatter already established residency. Must go through the eviction process. That is what the cops told my brother in 2010 when his house got invaded by a squatter before he can move in.
@@mikef2811 It's terrible that a homeowner has to go through the courts to get their home back from an intruder. I hope your brother finally got his home back.
@@polkadots716 My brother got lucky, his squatter was known in town because he was repeat offender. Once the cops realized that he was a repeat offender, they called my brother and notify the squatter has 24 hours to move. My brother got lucky! Originally, the 2 cops told my brother to go through the eviction process that would have taken 3-6 months.
This is B.S if you own the house. Nobody should be able to live in the house until the case goes to court. She should also be able to have all parties involved charged with break and enter and expenses paid for any damages and utilities. These are not tenants they’re con artists and the law should not cater to them by giving them free rent until the court case...they have probably done the same thing before... get rid of these freeloaders and protect home owners
Agree 💯
Why would they change the locks if they rented the place fairly? Who changes the locks on a rental? That should have been evidence enough. That alone shows they were up planning for the return of the original owners, and ready for confrontation.
I changed the locks on my rental and told the landlord and put her locks up so when I move I will have them professionally put back on. I live In Memphis and I did it for my safety.
@@BrighamStephanie06 thanks for the tip, I just live in a low-crime area, and did not even think of that. To be real, a locked door never stopped a persistent thief.
That’s very true it doesn’t stop them but gives me a heads up, you know a lot of these rentals places have these lock things on the door and give you a code to get the key and you put the key back once you leave. But here and even others states criminals were making copies and just like this case would rent them out and not be the owner, and the owner had no idea. So many people have gotten scammed that way. Better to be safe then sorry. I changed locks at apartments as well, the maintenance man may be off his rockers so I don’t need no surprises.
@@BrighamStephanie06 So that is how thieves get access and set up the unsuspecting...learn something new everyday.
Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiid, I’ve changed locks and or added an extra lock, so maintenance can’t just walk in when they want to… Maybe that’s just me, no one is coming in my place, without me letting them in…. UNLESS THEY BREAK IN!💯
in a situation like this always report that a break in is in progress never that the person has been living in your home, you want to keep this as a criminal matter
Smart Thinking!
Exactly! Just about to say that! Can someone pin this. That's where they go wrong.
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Once a person has established that they live there, its going to be a long process. Some states, even a friend overstays and refuses to leave, you have to do an eviction notice..talk about irony.
This is ridiculous. The law should step in and protect this owner. Change the laws to protect the person who has the title to the home. Allow her to move the squatter out by police, based on her title. This is why we ultimately have gun violence.
My family's nickname is "the law" and that's the end of that --- she has GOTS to goooooooooooooooo!
Always said that to avoid these inconsistencies all leases should have to be registered with the county clerk. If county clerks across America had copies of leases it would be impossible to fake at lease
It may be cheaper to pay extortion money, however I would never pay it. I would have contractors removed the power and water lines to the house.
It's cheaper to shoot them and say they attacked you. If the property belongs to you, the castle doctrine will defend you. Problem solved for both you & society at large
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Unfortunately that's also against the law... its called constructive eviction.
The scumbags that do this are not stupid. Worthless, yes....stupid, no.
If she knows what shes doing, she has a signed lease for each month for as long as she wants to stay. In that lease, it will say that the rent includes utilities.
She can even put in the lease that the rent includes cable and internet service. If the house isnt already hooked up and turned on, guess what.......it soon will be. At the home owners expense.
@@elpimp5419 I'm not saying the scumbag squatter doesn't deserve it... but I personally know two landlords who went to jail for constructive eviction in NYC. Whether the victims likes it or not she is legally now a landlord until she can evict the scammer. If she starts intentionally making the home unlivable she will be committing a crime. Whether the scammer will try or could prove it is besides the point. If she ends up in court it could backfire.
@@elpimp5419 Oh these scumbags always find one to defend them. They come from sewages to defend these people for a quick buck. Actually the only thing more disgusting than a squatter are the "liars" defending them.
Local govts that allow this are a true disgrace. Just change the law!!!
Seriously! Lately it feels like the law only caters to criminals! 😢
Too many cancel rent protesters out there that want as many tenant protections as they can get.
@@jeretso she’s not a tenant she’s a thief
@@starrg7478 Thieves take advantage of strong tenant protections to their advantage. Homeowners can do little when thieves google the laws or lawyer up.
@@jeretso We just want to protect innocent, older & vulnerable people. That's what is right. But most of us do support SPECIFIC laws protecting LANDLORDS from scammers.
If the owner’s name isn’t on the fraudulent lease, the squatter(s) should be made to immediately leave and charged with forgery. What’s so difficult with that??
Right on
The 2 year moratorium closed eviction courts for 2 years. Now courts are backed up another 2 years. Laws are on tenant's side. Time is on Tenant's side. Forgery goes to a different court so judge will release suspect with low bail to repeat the crime all over again.
Exactly!!
A squatter can look up the name of the property owner using the address, and then use the info for the forged lease.
What you said sounds good, but unfortunately for this homeowner, that’s NOT how it works.
She’s going to take an “L” either way.
As a landlord you can have someone stay in your property for free during renovation. I know someone who did it because he needed a place to stay anyway. It’s for reasons like this and it helped him to get his money together while securing the property.
Yea, and that free person can be difficult to evict
This wouldn't happen to Blackrock or a larger corporation. No justice for the little guys.
This isn't anything new. If you go on craigslist you will see the same properties for rent with different numbers and prices, scammers have been doing this for years
how they get in, how they get the keys? what would happen if she had cameras and security systems?
@@mastery200 break in
The fact that she changed the locks let me know she created that lease smh
Incorrect, one should ways Change locks on a place as old tenant may have key
PSA; this happened to a friend of ours parents. Instead of calling the police, eight of us went into the house and nicely escorted the squatter out. Don’t call the police because they can’t help you. It’s not the police fault, it’s the systems fault.
That's the way you handle things.
Be sure to take the cell phone so no videos
Befriend a biker gang and show up at the house. Problem solved.
of course use your head
@@keithalan8720 idk but ain’t head butting people could get me arrested?
How does that solve the problem?
Biker gang will need something in return at a later date.
Then that be disturbing the peace inconsiderate to the others /neighbors
Another crazy law on the books that need to be changed asap. Make this make sense.
Squatting needs to be made a FELONY... with a 5 year mandatory minimum stay in state jail.
With more on top for the felony forgery...
I agree! It really has to be one of the sleaziest things to do to another person.
Agreed
If the tenant was truly on the up and up, she would be willing to do the right thing and work with the real landlord to catch the people that duped her and work with the landlady who said they can work something out but the fact that she is unwilling and not afraid of eviction tells me she herself is a scammer and I don't believe a word she says.
Exactly. Because if she's telling the truth, she's still going to get thrown out after it's proven the lease is bs. So she should want to work with law enforcement to find the true crook.
At the end of the day, there's only one true solution and it's to install cameras everywhere so that you're alerted right away when someone even approaches your home, opens a door, opens a window or walks inside. Imagine someone approaches your home and they hear, "CAN I HELP YOU?" If they ignore you and try to pick the lock anyway, you can immediately call the cops and tell them someone is breaking into your house and you're on your way there.
So imagine both you and the cops are there and you tell them, hey, you just broke into my house. They're done, because 1. you have the video evidence proving this and 2. they didn't have enough time to call a locksmith to get the locks changed.
It's unfortunate, but in this day and age you need to constantly be thinking of how thieves are trying to rob you.
Here in Detroit, one of our newscasters moved in with the squatter. They could because they had permission from the owner and didn't interfere with the squatter. It made the squatter leave.
Dam lol
I saw that
I've heard so many stories like this and it's just beyond unbelievable that a stranger can, in effect, steal your home and the homeowner has less rights than the thief. Imagine what that woman is doing to all the stuff in that house, going through everything.
This only happens if they're there for more than 30 days, which means it won't happen if you, for example, go buy groceries and come back. For those that haven rental property or for those who just bought a home and they haven't moved in yet and don't plan on doing so and the house will be vacant for more than a month, the solution is simple: install cameras that alert you of any activity. If someone
* approaches your front door
* opens the front door
* opens a window
* walks around your property
you'll be alert right away.
Have an alarm system on all of your properties, never let this happen. This is nothing but a squatter kind of situation. This happens too often.
The owner states she never made a lease with the "tenant" and that is good enough for eviction. The lease is invalid, and the woman must leave. The tenant may have done nothing wrong, but was taken advantage of by crooks. Where someone comes up with $8,000 in cash to rent a house is a wonder in itself. The "tenant" has to prove her lease is valid, and it is not. This should not take long if the court is not already backed up with eviction cases.
They say to call cops as soon as someone breaks in. So, if you see someone breaking into your property and call the cops and the person breaking in has a fake lease, what then? They'd probably let the person move in.
So don't go on vacation. People move in
This happens nationwide. Some groups are taught how to take vacant properties. Here in Dayton, Ohio, these cases have been handled in criminal court as trespass cases.
This happened to me once, the person threatened to hit me, so I filed for a protection order, went back to the property with the police & bc they were on my property they were arrested.
Wow! So smart!!! Maybe thats is easiest way and faster to evict them
@@bird7464 Yes!
I would watch and wait until that squatter leaves the property (she can't be there 24/7). As soon as she leaves, I would call in a locksmith to change the locks, and remove all her belongings.
So what if she calls the police? It's a CIVIL MATTER, right? She doesn't have a lease with the owner. Good luck trying to win that case in court. I would also temporarily move in to prevent the squatter from breaking in. If I have to leave, family would be there. Then post huge signs in all the upstairs windows that no locks can be changed on the property without proof of ownership.
This has been happening everywhere to home owners. Calling it SQUATTERS RIGHTS 🤦🏾
It's making theft LEGAL.
Since she owns the house she should be able to access the house and rent the bottom floor as a practice space for a local band or two.
Also, how does a squatter shell out 8k for a rental property? Maybe she had that kind of money, but I’ve never seen a squatter carrying around 8k. Anyways, you’d think police would be able to connect the address to the correct owner much like can be done with vehicle registration. I don’t think you can steal a car and then claim you are renting it and get away with it. Well, then again, maybe in Chicago you can!
County or town tax records ,show who owns pretty straight forward , this is nothing more than lazy public employees!
A law has not been broken? What? A woman moves into a home that is not her own and refuses to leave and that's not a crime? How about breaking and entering? This is insane! I feel really bad for the woman who truly does own the property. It goes without saying that this should be a crime.
When I had squatters that damaged my rental property, the police told me they could not even go into the house with me to check and see what damage there was inside after seeing what there was outside. And they warned me that I could not legally do anything that would “interfere with their enjoyment of their domicile.”
Imagine doing this to a homeowner that is part of a mob, or powerful gang… she would regret it.
She would not live to regret it
How about the cop's take the home owners word that the person does not belong on the property, problem solved!
That makes too much sense. It'll never work.
The broad has a lease saying she DOES belong on the property.
Whether that lease is bogus or not is determined by a judge, not a cop on the street.
You’re about 25 years, too late, for that man ! 😂😂😂😂😂
prblm is police don't want to go in to extra hassle!!! if they want they can solve the problem because they are the authority and power⚡ to do it!!!!! it's not that difficult
@@vanrajsindha9918 police have no ability to get into civil matters. That is what this is at this point.
She would get out my house BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY!
As soon as that door opens and the tenant leaves out, I’m rushing that door coming in fully armed and calling a locksmith. I’m giving everyone in the house 5 minutes to get out before the crazy in me “gets out.” If anyone thinks I’m paying a mortgage for a thief that broke into my home, they have another thing coming.
You better believe that s*** I would not put up with that at all whatsoever
I would not let it continue. The less you act on it, the bolder she becomes.
None of that makes sense... They can evict and bring the police to kick out someone who actually pay rent there, but a sqauter can stay there??
The police cannot evict a person unless.there is a Court Order stating so.
@@triciac1019 clearly you dont get what im saying. I dont have the patience to explain it either.
In addition to the tips in this video, anyone who owns vacant property should frequently check Facebook marketplace, craigslist and just Google the address to see if the property is listed for rent.
I am looking for a rental now and I have already found several that were scams. A couple I almost applied for before I realized they were scams.
I am nervous about situations in which someone other than the rightful owner of a property rents it to me.
When I was a teenager, someone rented my parents a house they didn't own. Luckily, when it was found out, the rightful owner allowed us to stay while we found a place. They were really nice about it.
I agree. We're blessed. In between renters, we usually have family members to stay in out homes. We rotate spending the night, so houses are not empty.
Wow regarding what happened to you as a teen. I'm glad that the owner was kind.
It’s a bad idea to buy a house in a leftist city like Chicago. Communist politicians don’t respect private properties.
Another very obvious thing to do if you're going to have vacant property: install motion cameras that alert you if
1. Someone steps on your property
2. Someone opens your door
Imagine someone squatter thief approaching your property and you immediately respond with, "Can I help you?" That should take care of that problem right away. If they ignore you and starting picking the lock, you can IMMEDIATELY call local police and tell them there's a break in happening at your address and then you can make your way down there. The video of them picking the lock will show, hey, this person hasn't been there 30 days and you'll have no problems 1. getting them thrown out right away and 2. being able to sue them for whatever damage they did while getting into your house. Hopefully, the cops would thrown them in jail as well.
🤔Okay so let me get this straight…anyone can move into a vacant house that is owned and paid for by someone else, print a FAKE LEASE put their name on it, say they paid some mysterious person $8K up front and now police say there’s nothing they can do because it’s a civil matter!!! 😡 So the real owner has to go through a legal process to get the trespasser removed and get their property back! Oooh HECK NO…. I guarantee you if that were my property that trespasser better never leave because the moment they do, I’m taking my property back & changing the locks! Now they’ll have the burden of proof (which they won’t be able to do) and see me in court SINCE THE POLICE SAY there’s nothing they can do & IT’S A CIVIL MATTER!🙄🤨😡
Sheeesh or buy them out. They said cash for keys. 😉
By law, once a person resides at an address for three consecutive days, they are legally allowed to remain in that home/apartment. That's why leases specifically state that visitors are only allowed for 2 days and no longer, otherwise they become legal tenants and you have to go through the eviction process.
@@redred9382 - Oooh I heard that but you actually feel that someone who is already paying a mortgage, taxes or owns a property put right should have to further pay a someone living for free in their property to give them the keys and leave? That’s a scam! I said what I said.
I bet if a Judge, Politician, Government Official or Police Officer arrived home and a stranger had a fake lease for his or her home; that thief would be leaving their property the very same day. Why are the rules different for regular citizens🤔 Smh
If someone squats in a home that you own. Get your deed to the house, wait quietly to leave. As soon as they are gone, move yourself in, change the locks and barricade the doors. If they call the police, show them the deed to the house. If the squatter breaks into the house with you in it... well, the law is very clear about self defense against home invaders. :)
Now you taking.
Facts
America. What a nation. Can't you plug the holes in your laws that allow this kind of criminal activity? Why is it so hard?
Because criminals in the state senates, and DC make our laws.
In my area if you post your house for sale on Redfin it will immediately be posted on Craigslist for rent by scammers. The real estate market is extremely shady and home owners are not actually protected by law... Go America
Sad if the woman inside was done such away. Two people were done wrong if this is the case. 8,000 for deposit sounds bogus. I feel if the police can’t identify your landlord in 30 days you have to go. Chicago is know for people losing properties due to their badly needed updated landlords tenants act. When you get property these days immediately have the ring doorbells installed front and back and put bars and gates on front door and back door so it will definitely be a break in if they enter people will hear.
Exactly. She paid $8,000 deposit for a month to month 😳🤦🏽♀️
She's a grifter.
@@ladybug4910 Yeah. OK. Nobody in their right mind would do that anywhere near there. Half of Chicago won't even DRIVE past there. Lol
It's ridiculous that the police protect the rights of people who squat in vacant homes or say they signed a lease and the homeowner is left to fend for themselves. The person could destroy all the work she's done before court system serves them eviction notice
I think the important step here is if you're leaving your property vacant then you need the security cameras. Obviously the squatter broke into this home. Ring cameras or something like it could have alerted this owner that her property was being broken into. Then the cops could have arrested the squatter for breaking and entering or trespassing with video evidence. What a shame for this woman.
Better to have security alarm in addition to ring cameras. The alarm will at least scare off the trespassers.
@@MissTopDJ007 and let everyone around know something’s up
@@MissTopDJ007 Good point.
I thought the cameras need internet. How much is internet connection? If the cameras are not connected to the internet then the crook could just destroy the memory card.
@Department of Redundancy Dept Sounds good. Love your name BTW. Always remember: redundancy is the mother of monotony.
This is called " Squatting". I stumbled across a you tube channel out of detroit 2 years ago that deal with evicting squatters all day long. Squatters find vacant homes and illegally move in. They bootleg and manipulate energy and a water source if they can. Sometimes they even have small children living in these unstable environments.
This is insane. Laws need to be changed!
In 2010 my boyfriend and I left NJ and went to AZ. Another person remained in the home until the foreclosure went through. One day we got a call from his brother saying his house was on craigslist and people were trying to move into the home. We looked online and saw the stolen pics taken from the real estate listing. The person staying at the house was a felon and not afraid to attack strangers so it was a disaster waiting to happen. He moved out, the locks were changed and the foreclosure people took over. This happened alot back then...The person trying to claim it was there house was only contacted by email and the facts were so strange that its hard to believe anyone would fall for it...but people fall for anything...thats why there are so many victims.
I have a a guy on my block in N.Y. he's been squatting In the house he's in for 8 months. After 30 days, there was nothing the police could do. I believe the house is owned by the bank so they don't really care. I have my little basement apartment, barely affording it, and this dude is living in the second biggest house on my block. AND he changed the locks lol... That's squatter's rights in a nut she'll 🤦🏽♂️
The bank will eventually evict when they are ready to sell. As long as he isn't tearing the place apart,it's actually safer for a person to occupy and take care of the property. Many of these bank owned properties end up gutted.
@@karoberts2198 I've heard that before, but I believe they would still have to give him a certain amount of time to leave, I'm not sure how much tho.
Sounds like your paying to much.
Should go find a spot and cop a squat!
@@digitallurke7710 weird but ok
and people say getting into Real Estate is So Great...yea ok
Mostly slimy, lying, evil, extremely greedy people, but what does that have to do with this?
She should get the water and electricity turned off. See how quickly she would leave.
She can't shut off utilities in tenants squatters name
Why does anyone believe the criminal has a lawyer? The owner needs to take back her home. She shouldn't have called the news people, just taken her property back. The longer the squatter stays, the more rights she has. I hope she gets back in her home soon.
Who pays $8,000 up front to rent?
This sounds like that restitution thingy we heard about.
Especially in that cesspool area, lol
I wouldn't pay her a dime to get out.
Shut off the water and power. It's her house, she can have the doors removed. Once the doors are removed, the stuff inside can be removed
If the owner does that, she can get arrested. Happened to my brother in 2010. Nothing he can do except go through the eviction process.
Absolutely wrong!!! If she had a lease, why are the locks changed? Lazy law inforcement. Owner needs to have the locks changed. This is trespassing
??? why tf wouldn't the locks be changed, assuming the lease was real. Changing the lock should be the first thing you do once you rent a new place. You don't know who else still has spare keys,,,
@@snq8068 its not a real lease!!!
@@ginao5217 I know her lease is not real.. I worded this bad. I meant to say, it is VERY normal to change locks when you start renting a place.
This happens in Georgia often and they are protected by law believe it or not. They call themselves "sovereign citizens" and will take over homes, land talmbout it's their "right" to be on the land or property. Also be careful about who you let come to "stay for a while". In certain states these people become more than squatters and actually can live in your property for an undisclosed amount of time with no legal reprecussions. States need to review some of these archaic laws and update them to reflect the world we live in today.
Same thought, some of these laws are based on different times, like when land was still being settled. They make tons of laws every year but never go back to see which laws no longer apply.
@@eryndelosreyes8224 exactly! Who is staking claim these days???!!! No seriously. And that goes for the constitution, bill of rights etc. Surely the world has changed from 4 score and 7 years ago 🙄
This happens so often and it's insane. It's often that they did have a fake agent take them through a fake process. It really happens a lot to the second homes of senior citizens when they leave their summer homes and return North:. They come back in the winter and someone is living their house -with a lease and a story.
Guess no one thought of providing tax records to the police . Whom ever pay taxes on the house own the house
Except the squatter isn't saying she owns the house, she''s saying she's leasing the house from the owner.
I'm so very sorry this happened to her.
My mom had a lengthy renovation done at her home. To prevent vandalism etc. She rented a room cheap to someone who would look over it for the duration in return. It turned out to be good for everyone involved.
Smart idea. If someone had been living there, it wouldn't have been moved into by the squatters.
Make sure the cheap rent guy will leave and not force eviction
I'm leaning towards evicting this trash in an unconventional way 🍁 72+ hunter expat
Break into the house through the window and drag her out!!
I’ve moving her stuff out and presenting the police with my own lease
There's NO EXCUSE for this. The justice system needs to be held accountable for this and should be jailed and have their licenses forfeited.
Courts are a judicial system, not justice system. Three branches of government: Executive, Legislative, and Judicial.
@@katel3962
I'll take note of your comment. However, the "Justice System" does include the "Judicial System" and other agencies such as law enforcement, so the use of term isn't inappropriate.
THANKS 😁
@@catman8965 There is no dept of "Justice System." Justice system is a generic noun (all lower case) to collectively describe various agencies. It is not an agency itself, it is not a proper noun (capitalized), it can't jail people, it can't forfeit licenses.
Jailing someone is done by the Judicial system (courts).
License forfeiture is done by the government agency which authorized the license.
@@katel3962
It is a title too a group of entities, and titles are capitalized. BTW, I never said it was a department did I?
@@catman8965 Capitalize the formal names of departments, offices, committees, boards, and institutions, but do not capitalize informal names. There is no department, office, committee, board, or institution titled justice system. It is not a proper noun. It is a subject and is not capitalized. Go to school. Ask a grammar teacher.
Have we lost our minds! No one should be able to go and steal your property. If this keeps up no one will want to leave their homes to go on vacation with so many people homeless. I would figure some way to make this lady's life a nightmare. Pay someone to follow her every move.
Watch the movie "Pacific Heights" and you'll see how crazy this situation is. It's actually pretty common. The best thing to do is wait until she leaves one day and then get the locks changed. During that process, take every ounce of clothing that she has, all of her UNOPEN mail (send it back to the post office or to the sender with "individual is an illegal squatter...should not receive mail at this property" on it...but don't open anything because that would be illegal). Add a ring doorbell system and connect it to your phone. If she gets back into the house she won't like being monitored and you can wake her up anytime you want to. lol. Get the utilities turned off with a stipulation that only you can have them turned back on. Get another attorney. The "negotiate" with her by paying her money will only backfire on you. She will take the money and still live there so that doesn't make much sense. She can also claim that you were seeking to purchase "her home" from her and what you gave her was a partial deposit and you still owe her x amount of money. Do a purchase history on the home. Surely the agency that you purchased the home from has the proper records on the home. You can do the same with the insurance and tax records on the home. There should be a history of the sale, taxes, property taxes, etc... all with your name, not hers, on it. Send a letter to everyone in the neighborhood warning them to beware of this scam, letting them know that the individual at X address is a squatter, is illegally in that property, and this development will affect the property values of their homes. Send this as only an alert to them. Be sure to state that you are advising them to not approach her nor take any action against her. Have your lawyer send a certified letter to her asking her to vacate the property or send the name of her lawyer. Give her 30 days to respond with representation or move out. Put a fake for sale by owner sign in the yard. The bottomline is you shouldn't give up. Become a nuisance to her.
Possibly..living rent free for up to 18 months!
Such a scummy thing to do and also a good way to get beaten up or worse.
I keep seeing these awful scenarios of people moving into homes that aren't theirs and then then they can't get rid of them. My heart goes out to the owner. I might be tempted to take drastic actions if the courts or police couldn't help. Seems like owning a home these days is more trouble than their worth.
Lawmakers need to create a law where proving that a lease is illegal is enough to kick someone out your property without an eviction process.
Proving ownership of the property and you never signed the lease should be the only requirement. Authority needs to be given to the police to lookup property records to resolve the issue without a judge.
Wow the laws in America are crazy . U should be able to remove them straight away . That's not the home owners fault. I'm sooo glad new zealand ain't like that
@@caseyschryber1255 ive read enough of your comments to come to the conclusion that you just want to kill someone.
But not just anyone.....no, you wouldn't do that.....it would have to be a minority member.
Under the Democrats the US is staunchly pro-criminal.
This is getting beyond ridiculous!!! So pick your favorite vacation area, move in and change the locks, stay a while. It's all on the home owner.
Are you sure this story didn't happen like 5-10 years ago in Chicago? I even contacted the reporter some year(s) later to ask if the woman had received justice, and the reporter replied that the woman had not.
Strangers were living in a home my dead grandmother left me,and I told them to leave, they cussed me out,l called the police and now it's a mess,l have to go to court.
Who is listed as the leasor in the lease and run after that person? Because I'm sure that will make the process easier.
The woman in the house is not cooperating with anyone to get to the bottom of this.
Take a number to see the judge, hopefully by Christmas!
This happened to a co worker of mine. In his case the real estate agent illegally leased the home.
Wow. How was it resolved?
Yeah, no. This wasn't a licensed agent. They're evil, greedy and slimy af, but they're not stupid.
What’s the point of paying a mortgage or rent when you can just squat? Seriously. So frustrating
But I have a question: What about the “owner” that leased the house to the occupant? Can the actual homeowner or occupant go after them? If it is true that they are collecting rent for a home they do not own
If they ever existed, they probably gave a fake identity on the paperwork and left town.
How can the police say a law wasnt broken when she showed them a fraudulent lease? Didn't she break into the house? How else did she get in?
That's just it. If no EVIDENCE of a crime can be shown... then, according to the law, it didn't happen. So, it's a FANTASTICALLY devised scam in order to absolutely destroy another human being (the true owner). It worked excellently, and that's the way of humanity: destroy others before they destroy you. Take what you can, but don't get caught.
We all learned that from the ex-president of the U.S.A.! 💪😎🤟 He committed more unanswered crimes than perhaps anyone in history. No repercussions, and people saw it. So... they're just emulating some of what they learned.
Cheating is the only way to 'win' (at the expense of others). Others MUST suffer if YOU are going to succeed.
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It's not the cop's job to determine whether or not the lease is fraudulent.
That's why cops don't do anything.
I would not call the police. I would force my way in, when the squatter wasn't there and change the locks. Meanwhile, search for the bogus lease. When the squatter returns, so said to bad. Then hold their stuff for ransom.