Smart Meters are worse than you think (UPDATED)
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- Опубликовано: 28 фев 2018
- I learned the hard way what's happening with smart meters in Europe. The same type of smart meter they're using here in France has already been deployed in many EU countries.
Mostly, we hear only about the negative health effects of wireless smart meters, but the ones here only send data back over the power lines.
In short, with a smart meter, you may end up with less juice to power stuff, and more frequent main breaker trips as people exceed their (now reduced) capacity.
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"Broadband Over Power Lines" we call it here in the States. The power Company can remotely shut off your power at will for ANY reason. Your fault, their mistake - it doesn't matter, suddenly you are literally in the dark. It is a problem that is completely unfair and should be illegal.
couldnt they do that anyway?
Just happened to me and I need electric for medical equipment
I am in New Zealand and our power company tried to bully me into getting smart meter after I refused it . 2 days later a power dude was in my back yard with his tool box ready to install it .I just reminded him if he touches my meter box he will get assaulted .he packed his stuff and left . Stay viligant people don't let them bully you
j f Why so worried about smart meters? What is the transmit power and RF frequency used in your area that makes you worry? EMF is way more of a concern from a smart phone when it’s sending with boosted power to reach a far away antenna tower (if you have 1 or 2 bars on the signal).
j f Interesting, they need to explain why the cost goes up.
@j f Wow... a lot of misinformation concerning smart meters. Not all smart meters are the same. The ones in this area use the telephone lines , no RF involved. The telephone based smart meters don't interpret usage, just measure it. With a starting reading on the meter at 12344, and an ending reading of 24688, be it measured digitally or analog (the traditional meters), the difference is still 24688-12344 or 12344 . Commercial users in this area have access to the power company's staff to get ideas and assistance in how to lower their operating costs.
@j f Does the PUC in your region allow that to happen ? Locally, the PUC makes up the rules.
@j f You have yours, I have my experiences with smart meters, and others have theirs. I wish you well.
The power company installed a smart meter on my house. When I had them remove it, all at once my crazy screaming Roosters stopped crowing and calmed down.
As soon as I had my power company removed our smart meter and replaced it with an older style meter, our bill dropped significantly to where it had averaged the past 30 years. That was really great after it went up 300% after it was installed.
That's great! 👍🎯
@@valerieirvin249 he’s lying. No electricity company would remove a smart meter once installed
@I. J what’s the company called please
@@sunnies336 not in U.K.
@I. J same, in Ohio
They charged $99 to opt out of the smartmeter and a monthly fee of $36 to remain on the old meter.
No mention of the RF interference that these things are causing. This makes it virtually impossible for many people to use sensitive amateur radio receivers and short wave receivers. They're on a much higher frequency than Short Wave, but the interference goes right through the radio spectrum from LF upwards. Have you noticed how much poorer the quality of sound is on your AM radio over the past few years? We’re in the U.K., and used to listen to BBC Radio 4 on 198kHz very regularly. It's now almost impossible to hear the audio at times, because of the really high levels of noise, which is mostly from smart meters. DAB broadcasting covers some of the lost service, but not all of it. And DAB radios use more power than analogue receivers.
As apprentice electrician I'd say these are more in the favor of the distributor than the consumer.
For sure, smart meters do not benefit the customer only the supplier, I have one and are about £5 worse off a month which doesn't sound much I know but over the next twenty years including everyone else here in the UK its millions of ££££
@@badlieutenant3822 then why add extra items that enable a local shutoff for items like solar.... please balance that giant load without sectioning it off for safety and efficiency... its also more accurate in many respects...
Youre french
Of course.
As a consumer I disagree.
I own a small detail shop, power company came by and installed smart meters and told me I had no say so about it and that all businesses were getting smart meters before they do home owners. Within a month all of my large air compressors were dead. I called a repairman who before he even looked at the compressor, checked the voltage coming to the building. Most large equipment needs 240-250v, which is what I had prior, now it was topping out at 230v. That made my compressors overheat and fried the motors. I called the power company and basically they told me tough luck. I was advised to hire an electrician to evaluate my power needs and he would have to tell them to up my voltage which they would then charge me a heck of a lot more for. So yeah, dude is spot on about how bad they are.
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Anything like this is cheap and easy to install.
Try to find two different outlets, one for each of the 2 phases.
As you are finding out, *LOW* voltage is a *KILLER* for electrical motors.
Phone in every time your voltage drops.
Log the complaints.
The best way to stop these criminals is with paperwork.
Best of LUCK Damien.
One more though. only run one compressor at any given time if you have more than one.
If a compressor runs at 20 amps, then the start up draw is 10 times higher than the running amperage.
For a very short time the startup current draw will be near 200 amps.
Guess what thay does to your line voltage? Line voltage will drop.
Computers and anything electronic will also suffer from the lower voltage.
Yeah I meant I burned one out, then burned out my back up compressor, that's when i knew something was wrong. Never had them running at the same time.
Those plug in ones are really cheap on Ebay. Not perfect, but they are on all the time and seem to be reasonably accurate.
Your power company knows most of us will not spend $1000 to have an electrician do a power check.
That's why I suggest you get a cheap monitor and phone in a complaint every time you see the voltage drop.
If they don't like your method of monitoring their line voltage, then you can suggest they check your power for free.
after 100 complaints or more, you can also go to your Utility commission and complain. ;-)
Best of luck my friend. 👍👍
I would of told them tough luck for you because if you dont reimburse me for my losses then you will compensate fully for negligence , liability and destruction of my property underba commercial lien on your ass.
I’ve seen one of those smart meters opened up. They are very complex. They have a full board with a processor, memory, modem, SIM card and antenna in the uk. Also a big circuit breaker so theoretically they could remotely cut you off.
we had a fleet of smart meters go offline in the basement of our condo for months after a flood. power stayed on.
You can definitely remotely disconnect and connect a smartmeter. It takes minutes. They send meter reads daily. They're a huge improvement over the old meters.
@@andromedaspark2241 that's not a good thing
They can cut you of on a non smart meter to
like a smart watch, that varies by local regulations and meter manufacturer. My province's legislation doesn't allow for use of most of those things. Here, they use an encrypted radio burst for 1 second every 8 or 12hrs.
The "smart" meters used in residential are about as complex as a 2010 FitBit. Cutting edge power meters (for utility and industrial) are more like a 2017 laptop/tablet
Amazing how I started using more power after they installed a smart meter
Shane Ellis it’s a big scam ...
Robbie lacey Jones same am just about to get one..last 2 half months my bill was 547 pounds. They tell me a new smart meter will sort it out. Think they want everyone with a free Smart meter
Robbie lacey Jones ok thanks Iv just heard a lot of people saying it cost more for bills after the install .
My bill dropped after they installed my meter.
They don't call it "smart" because it is good for your wallet, they call it "smart" because it is good for their bank account. Smart move on their part that is.
Can you sue the company that put’s this device on your home, especially when I opted out of getting?
Washington state West coast here. They told us with these smart things😕 that between the hours of 5pm and 9pm, they can charge us up three times as much money for what we are useing ! So, we have been switching off everything at the breaker, between the hours of 5pm until 9:01pm. We have saved SO MUCH MONEY it's crazy!! Ya, we have mega discipline in my house!⚓
I have operated a metal fab shop doing a lot of welding. We did a experiment with our spot welder. With a spot welder there is a almost instantaneous high current draw. With the old wheel meter the wheel just moved quickly but with the new one the kw usage stays on for around 2 seconds after the load stops charging me 2 extra seconds for that draw. Now I know 2 seconds don’t sound like a big deal but the welder draws around 2kw. It is not uncommon to cycle this machine over 1000 times a hour. Now do the math! Long story short my bill has risen around 15%. I have expressed my concern to the utility company and was told it is impossible for the new meter to bill be the extra 2 seconds and that I could not get back my old style meter. There is absolutely no doubt this is happening when I compared old bills. Once again the big institution wins! Just raise my prices I guess but this is complete BS! Makes you wonder how much more these organized criminals are stealing from the general public across the country.
ABSOULTELY BS THESE COMPANIES! My late father was a draftsman for Duncan electric meters in the '60's. The old school analog meters NEVER lied! Digital is a corrupt deceptive way to be lazy a$$es to not go out and read meters and yet charge the people more. Just like many politicians they think we the people are so freaking stupid to understand this.
Digital meters are more accurate. The mechanical meters are less accurate meaning they can slow down over time.
There are Standards the meters must comply with. They are NOT out to get anyone.
@@stevecampbell7620 they are not, only accurate while being calibrated. Check other youtube videos, especially from UK where people filming digital meters reading consumption even few times higher than actual consumption. I personally got such meter in my collection. Internal electronic components might slightly change characteristics or fail over the time and this might affect microcontrollers analog input readings used to sense the actual current or voltage. Best solution is to install second meter in line, so you can check time to time if readings still match.
i love the way people are lording this as a great thing... its putting meter readers out of work and extending the lines at the social security/ Job seekers office and reducing the Actual total capacity is just bad busness, we get ripped off enough for our energy without British gas treating critical resorces like mobile data
I live in a 1500 sq ft 2 story house with a 3.5 ton HVAC AC system. It's sprayed foamed to r 19 in the walls and R 60 in the attic.
The House is pretty much an igloo. Completely sealed. Extremely insulated. Light grey metal roof which is highly reflective. Last year our highest bill was 175.00..and that's in a Texas Summer..13 days of 100 degrees weather. Very Hot. Bill was never over 175.00 even using all electric appliances.
After the install of this Smart Meter..bill jumped up to 450.00. What the hell? I called CPS energy provider out to check the meter because something was wrong. They found no fault with the meter..I showed them past bills using the old mechanical meter..They had no explanation. I'm going back to the mechanical meter and pay the extra 20.00 per month..This is just stupid.
They will never be wrong from their viewpoint......never!!!! And how can we all dispute them????? Where is the law protecting the consumer??????
I also have a smart meter. My Bill's are the same as before. Something has changed (besides the meter) that is causing your bill to go up.
The change is most likely the old meter not measuring power consumption correctly. Your HVAC unit may be skewing the power factor significantly. Smart meters can detect this and measure the true power consumed.
Your neighbour is stealing your electricity and you are paying.........
@@Bill_N7FTM no its what it reads , third harmonic for instance a couple of PC's and various other equipment will change your costs from before and you have no control over it , there is also the question arising in the UK as to the effect of LED lamps on the bills as they went up significantly when LED was being used , i think its the same problem most electronics produce third harmonics thats (as far as i am aware) a small voltage down the neutral which is also being measured so the real solution is to get a 1 to 1 transformer to even out the consumption and of course your voltage you may notice your led LAMPS fading in and out (if they are dmmible ) because they are at such a low current it starts to become obvious
I stumbled onto your site with this video. I don't own a home, I rent an apartment yet found your content very interesting just the same. I'm sure our building is using some form of these smart meters as about a year ago or so they switched meters and now every month I get what I call a "GUILT REPORT" about how much more power I consume compared to my apartment neighbors. I guess they want to shame me into using less electricity or something. Thanks for the content, subed your channel.
Once again scotty....usefulness is in abundance. You deserve funding and 🥇 medals 🏅
What I wanna know is the power company charging you for the power to run that circuitry and how much does it cost a year?!
Im a HAM radio operator. After they installed the new smart meter, I was getting horrible interference on several bands. My driven earth ground is five feet from the underground power line to my house. I ended up moving my ground away from the power line to be able to use my equipment. The signal levels were so high it totally swamped out all my meters.
Now THAT is interesting...
I don't have a smart meter but my neighbours both sides of my terraced house have the bloody things installed. Since the uk drive to install these dam things. It's now impossible for me to use the hf bands at all s8 across the hf bands 80 40 snd 20 meters are washed out completely. I cannot change the location of my g5rv I have tried mostly everything to resolve the problem the only way is to not use my radios at all. Bloody digital technology will be the death of the radio amateur hobby. 73
Has something to do with them broadcasting voices in peoples heads. Sounds whackadoodle i know, but its true.
@@sincitybarbie3749 it absolutely is true because I'm experiencing precisely that where I live in Illinois. It's been Wackadoo for me since July of 2019! There is absolutely and positively NO personal privacy WHATSOEVER! Like a psych ward's going to help THIS! Just another excuse to prescribe I guess... you are indeed correct. I wouldn't wish this on ANY human being, EVER!😡
I am wondering if this might be why I am getting headaches, as the head of my bed is right behind the meter that is on the outside of the wall. I have some 4x8 sheet of aluminum that I just put up as I was watching your video, do you think this will help keep it out or amplify my situation.? Thank you in advance.!
Strangely enough in Germany we are asked if we want smart meter or just a standard electronic meter. I think they mentioned that installing smart meter conflicts with their strict personal data protection laws.
As an electrician, another bummer is that I can’t just pull your meter and upgrade or change out your service. The smart meter reports back to mother brain that there is a service interruption. It helps keep us safe from the untrained but also means I have to pull a permit and schedule an inspection and charge you more for the cost and hassle.
This is rediculous when a person opts out and they still put the dang thing up, we need to join together world wide/ world wide law class action suit…. !!!!!
@@meganjarvis7970 Yeah go to the one world court of appeals....do you even hear yourself?
Exactly
If you change the meter it’s classed as tampering and against the law, I know this from first hand experience
@@meganjarvis7970 you don’t own the power delivery infrastructure, if the utility wants to change their equipment they’re going to do it. If you don’t like it, don’t use grid power and get solar with a battery bank and inverter or build your own power plant.
I put a pair of spectacles on my meter, so the Energy company thinks it's already smart.🤓
Nice one
LOL.
Or hang an old smartphone and a charger over the top of it.
But make sure that both do not work because they won't be anymore after they've been out in the rain.
LOL.
@@srubberalittle no as the meter is at the demarcation... you only pay for what you use on your end. usually they give you a 5$ service or delivery fee... which is standard... or do you bus in your power by battery...
Once your health is gone.....nothing else matters. It is the #1 consern
*ConCern
@@allaboutroofing2 shit man, you know youre bad when you get corrected by a roofer...
@@troyb3659 better than being illiterate and living in mom's basement apparently. 🤷
@@allaboutroofing2 *CuntsEarn
Scared of Rf radiation so I’m gonna put a radio right in my face to complain about it.
30 years ago we used to only have storage heaters in the house. We were on 'Economy 7' tariff. So we used to have cheaper electricity (i think) between the hours of midnight and 7am. There must have been some way for the company to know even back then when we were using electricty.
The idea was that you switched the heaters on at night to get them hot and then they'd switch off in the morning but carry on radiating heat during the day.
Now we get a letter or a phone call about once every couple of months telling us what an opportunity is is to be able to have our very own smart meter fitted. And every time we tell them BOLLOCKS!
Thanks Scottie. My supplier in the UK installed a smart meter after our old one stopped working. I didn't want a smart meter as I have solar panels (and it was always a joy to see that old spinning wheel run backwards) but I had no choice but to accept the new meter. I have been wondering why my electricity bills have been so high and I can see why if I am now paying for that "extra" power that they need to send in order to cover our usage.
In USA I learned it is your property & your choice regarding what is on your property. I learned you can buy the meter you want to use & the electrician gets a permit (it does not have to specify exactly what they are removing & installing) & then the electrician can remove your smartmeter & install the meter you bought instead!
Kinda like the gas pipelines in Atlanta, Georgia. However much they claim it costs them to send the gas through the lines (they claim they don't own them so they rent them to you) is how much higher your gas bill.
I think you will find that the power factor is the same, provided the equipment is the same. The losses incurred in supplying the power is the same, all that has changed is the method of measuring it ie from analogue to digital. This is a misleading post. Since I have had a smart meter for several years, they have in time improved them to an extent that I can now monitor usage on a continuous basis if I wish. The IHD has enabled me to save on average 8 pounds a month, simply by monitoring the usage of individual appliances and equipment, and modifying how they are used. For me the smart meter is an asset, with a complete lack of estimated bills.
@@aprilpeace3371 Nope. Here, if you do not comply, they will eventually just turn off your power. Sort of like what Trudo is doing now with banks and truckers. You do have rights, but they do not honor them. If you can afford the court expenses, then you may stand up for your rights.
He is not describing UK Smart Meters.
Having designed UK Smart Meters I can tell you they do not have breakers and they measure and bill in kWh.
I went off grid 21 years ago. DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' METER.
@J P maybe cellular data
Good for you, Fu. I only have 1kW of solar on the roof now, but I hope to add 4kW more this next year, backing it up with 15kWh of lithium batteries. How big is your setup? Solar, wind, water, or a comination? House or cabin?
@Jono "Off the grid" means that you aren't connected to the electrical grid.
@Jono can't you be off grid as far as wifi goes, but use an ethernet cord ?there is no wifi with ethernet......
@Jono Some day, Jono, you will discover solar electricity and satellite internet! ;)
They just installed one on my house today. I ask the guy if I could keep my old one, and he said it would cost me $40 more month. I have a feeling my bill is going to go up.
Neznisgip I would have loved paying the extra and keeping my original meter just for peace of mind. I fought. With the electric company for months but they won when they said we had to either take the smart meter or we cut you off and charge for retrieving the old meter.
They told me $96.00 to put a new type of meter as they wont support the wifi one I have now,and $15 a mo.for them to come read it monthly..I'm in Fl.
Here in the UK some of these smart meter installations have been linked to fires. Mainly because they've been installed by poorly trained personnel.
The fires was not related to the smart meter it was due to been installed wrong (of they replaced it with a normal meter it would have had same issue due to the wiring from that installer)
I live in the Netherlands, 6 months ago we almost had a fire. When they changed the meter they guy din't not tighten the wires correctly.
@@IesKorpershoek wires? most are just slotted... you cant mess it up as the door will literally not close.... did they replace the entire box, as that is unusual.
Theirs a great video here in USA showing the smart meter doesn't have a safety cutoff and is the cutoff but cannot handle it correctly. Also we have hundreds of videos showing fires from the outside smart meters.
@@charleysturbos7320 seems more likely it's miswired. If it can't handle it you have something odd going on. As it can handle it in normal operations. Ground fault.
In our area we have smart meters for both electric and water. Never had a problem with electric shut down. They do have a peak charge from 4 -7 PM (charge more per killowatt hour) . About 5 years ago,at about midnight, we heard an explosion and the lights went out. Called the utility company and they came out to replace meter. Moisture got inside. I asked them and they told me that they were replacing with the same type and, yes it could happen again. I'm moving off grid
Kva is an indication of how much harder the generator actually has to work for the customer’s load. The more you get away from resistive loads and towards inductive or capacitive loads like motors, the more work the generator has to do ( they call this VARs). But if all your loads are Resistive, then Kva drops towards zero and only Kw count for usage. So all these years we didn’t have to pay for Kva loads (like big motors) we ran but now we have to pay the piper for all the types of loads we have as these meters can easily measure these powers accurately. This is a very simplified explanation of power.
Yes the more resistive the human the more power will be taken away. The analogy is quite clear in terms of what's to come.
Units to commemorate important scientists are given capital letters , coefficients not so.
Volt-amps and Watts are not synonymous. I like the presentation, but if you introduce motors US utility can charge power factor or require capacitors to be installed.
@@antar193 Yes I agree, and I think that is why the power companies hate the Switching Power Supplies that show in our consumer electronics now because of the PF these devices introduce. There are so many out there now running that it throws a wrench into the works for their generators so yes they are going to charge us for our PF …… just like they now charge us for that damned carbon gas tax ! Pretty soon we will have to pay for air we breath ……
Don't think for a second the power company hasn't already added this to the price they charge, coming and outright charging for it is double dipping. What do you expect from scumbag government agencies?
My bill has been about the same with the smart meter. I always look to conserve my electricity usage and one day they came out to replace my new smart meter because they said the other one had quit working. My bills are still about the same...so I wonder if they thought it wasn't working because the bill wasn't high enough or if there is something they have that tells them about our meters?
this is why larger factories have PF correction units installed
A couple of things that might be worth pointing out. Firstly France used to supply at 220V, and when your max power was first allocated, it would have resulted in a certain current rating for the supply circuit breaker (I=P/V). The supply voltage then increased to 230V a few years back, so the current required to provide the 'same' power went down. It's only with the introduction of SmartMeters and incorporating a CB into it that it became economic to reduce the supply current rating to maintain the same power; so that's why it has only happened recently! You haven't been 'done', but until now have actually been 'allowed' more power than you were originally contracted for. Secondly, Power (P) or Apparent Power (VA) etc. is immaterial - The breaker trips with over current, so keeping the current below the rated value is the real 'trick'. I understand why you side step round Power Factor (PF), as for most viewers it would be far too techie, but by correcting the PF at the appliance, the supply current is reduced, freeing up the spare current for other appliances. I have done this on my fridge and ceiling fans, by connecting appropriately sized capacitors. The water heater and kettles etc run at unity PF anyway, so don't need them. Smart meters have their drawbacks, but they are not the bogeyman they seem - It's the implementation and tariff structure by the suppliers that are really at fault here!
Incidentally, although the circuit breakers in the SmartMeter are electronic in operation (rather than the old electro mechanical) they generally have the same Type C profile. This means that they will still allow a higher surge current than the actual rated current without tripping, provided this is for a limited time. By monitoring your demand on an energy monitor (such as an Efergy or Owl) you can soon find out what you can 'get away' with, and for how long! I run my house on just a 3.45kVA (15A) supply, and have reduced the standing charge without affecting the quality of life. It can be done, but being an electrical engineer helps I suppose.....
Not "smart" for them ultimately. They are being sued into oblivion world wide (which only victims in the know, activists, and certain courts know about) and God certainly won't have anything planned out for these energy companies that's favorable to them b/c of blood guilt on their hands. Children and elderly are at the greatest risk, but these things are soooo strong that they're very dangerous for everyone. Smart meters almost killed me after 9 meters were moved into the electrical closet across the hall from my apartment. After 3 weeks I could no longer speak, walk, lift my head, my fingernails were separating from my fingers, my skin was burnt on scalp and face, when I swallowed food it felt like my throat and stomach were burnt, my brain was so fried from the radiation that it was making electronic noises (did you know that a brain can do that? it sounded like R2D2), I couldn't construct basic sentences in thought either, and my medical tests proved radiation damage to every organ. Every single organ. I was consequently homeless for 9 months trying to avoid meters. What you have to do is turn off your fuse box in order to stop the biological effects on your body caused by the smart meter on your electrical wiring. It's a literal life saver. What I went through I have 2 clients going through also, and my doctor said he's getting 2 new patients per week now developing the same issues. What Smart (Demon) Meters will do is make you permanently or semi permanently, impossibly sensitive to all electricity and your cell phone. I now have to have all clients put phones on airplane mode when they come in or I will collapse from pain of burning skin since I was so badly injured by smart meters. I work with the public so I have a small scale statistical view of about how many people this must be effecting world wide. It will get much worse if everyone doesn't demand landlines, get off their cell phones with exception of absolute and total necessity, put smart meter covers on their smart meters, shut off fuse boxes as much as possible, hard wire their laptops and desktops with ethernet (which is super easy and way better internet). The real reason smart meters are being installed is much more nefarious than anyone could ever realize, I assume, b/c of the class action lawsuits worldwide over it for the last 12 years that STILL aren't seeming to get people very far. (But remember that there was a $28 million study done in 1992 for 6 years by the country's leading radiation specialists and it proved extreme danger in long term use of any wifi, let alone the hundred times stronger smart meters. That information was swept under the rug. Although it was already known by the military in the 40s b/c it's the EXACT same technology.) Anyway, maybe smart meters are 1000 x stronger b/c people are reporting near death experiences world wide. Some of the radiation experts we've talked to are saying that doctors worldwide are calling them to get educated on how Smart meters work b/c the hospitals are being flooded with people who are radiation damaged since Smart Meters were installed. People in apartments will have it much worse b/c while they can shut off THEIR fuse boxes, you can't convince your neighbors to. While people in apartments in some states can opt out of smart meters, you can't convince your neighbors to. It was my neighbors' nine meters that almost killed me bc I opted out, but they didn't. HOWEVER, the opt out option is now becoming known to be a scam b/c they will just put a different meter on that has the same technology, which may be what they did with my opt out meter. OR they will say, "yeah no problem. We've got a guy available in 2 weeks to come out and take that off for you." ......... and they will never come. No matter how many times you call, they will never come out. So, you must do the things I've suggested above to save yourselves. OR move off grid to a wifi free and EMF free community, but MIGHT be far easier to arrange your home and business or office to be safe. Wifi free communities are starting to pop up all over the world though. Very embryonic stages but they are popping up everywhere which is very telling. There are now law firms devoted only to cell tower removal b/c cell phone technology is so lethal. Smart meters are FAR more dangerous bc they're strapped to your homes and one military weapons specialist said they are equal in strength to a military grade radiation weapon/they're more imminently lethal for some. Like I said, enough people are reporting near death after only 3 months or 6 months that imagine the untold suffering of people that don't know why they're dying. Somehow they heal in their cars, yet they go home and within an hour they are being rushed to hospitals. They heal in the hospital but then go home and almost die again, or they do die. Anyway, Class Action lawsuits worldwide, yet they haven't been shut down yet after 12 yrs of a massive fight. Silent, but massive. Media isn't covering it, yet it's far more dangerous than C*vid ever could be. Symptoms can be very similar b/c it attacks the lungs as well. Causes really violent vomiting, super human like fever b/c of radiation burning the body, etc. Better make sure your C*vid tests are truly accurate b/c that may not be what you have. When you call the energy companies to tell them what happened to your health, they will always hang up on you before you can say too much more. Then they have a supervisor call you back saying, "If you have any questions I can answer, please call ...." As if I didn't have only statements to make to her informing HER. I don't need her to answer questions with fake, scripted answers written by the questionable scientists hired by the energy companies.
In New Zealand they have been rolling out smart meters for sometime but it is a consumers right over here to not have them installed if you don't want them, gotta love having choice.
Same in UK or you can have them fitted in dumb mode or so they say.
BUT they charged us before they installed them (without telling us) and you have to install the replacement you want as they won' t do it.
In San Antonio, Tx, we were given the choice to opt out on smart meter installation, but we would have to pay an extra $20 monthly for a meter reader to come out and read the analog meter. Then the choice was taken away and you must have a smart meter or no electricity at all. You will comply or we will burn you with cigarettes!
Ok, great video and all but what in your opinion is your fix? Just asking?
So, just to clarify KVA is a measure of the amount of power the supplier has to generate to provide you with the power you need to consume. Does that mean that we are being charged for this extra power usage needed to overcome the inefficiency in the power grid, or are they still only charging for the power we consume?
Thank you, Scottie. Don't beam us up yet, your research and views are helpful. I'm happy with this information about how smart meters function and how the costs are higher, in the end. The Dutch Eneco energy-provider's website has created a Forum for smart-meter users, with questions and issues.
Indeed, there's a lot of complaints by smart-meter users, about bills rising without a cause and after inquiring about it these smart-meter users are told that they've probably ignored devices using power or other similar explanations. A lame argument, when it's true that smart meter-readings show a detailed use of electricity in each room or floor of the house.
Anyway, my publication of your videos and other critical voices pointing at the deceptive program around smart-meters, including the wrong info about the frequency of readings, when the data is transferred from smart-meter to energy-provider, plus the health-hazards of the including EMF radiation (elektro-smog) has triggered many negative and sarcastic remarks.
The advisers, which seem to be, just like the smart-meter users, ordinary people, are possibly paid by Eneco to promote smart-meter use and trample critical remarks, calling me a conspiracy theorist, addressing me as if I'm a man. Here's the usual view, of men, that subjects like this are discussed by men whose wives are knitting legwarmers and mittens for when the power fails, using arguments like "I'm sure the risk of smart-meters is studied and measured thoroughly, I'm pretty sure we're safe" or "The risk of being run over by a car is much higher than dying from elektro-smog" or "Stop nagging, jeez, have a life!" which is exactly what I'm planning to have.... without a smart meter or smart phone. Knitting legwarmers :)
I will start with this. I have never been sick a day in my life. And all who know me, know this to be true. Fast forward, I have been ill for months now, body aches, headaches, stomach issues and others. I dint even know I had a smart meter installed until about three weeks ago.
A family member said, you really should go see a dr. Something is obviously wrong, asked me if I had a smart meter installed, because they knew that they are making people sick. I replied NO, because at that time I was unaware that one had been installed while I was away. Just noticed a few weeks ago, I am now the proud owner of a smart meter. Was out doing some yard work and happened to look up and saw it.
Now at last I know the cause of my illness.
Fun,fun,fun...
Tony Musolino Go to the CosmicReality website and either order the S4 stickers,or the sticker/ magnet specifically for smart meters- They DO work and are scientifically and energetically tested by the people who’ve developed them. These will save yourself and family.
Isla Miln. / Could you give more info on the web site. When I search there are many many sites with that name. I’m not sure which one is the right one. Thank you so much.
a smart meter is not going to make you sick....
Smart Meter Health Complaints - EMF Safety Network
"People from coast to coast in the USA, and from one side of the world to the other, are becoming ill after exposure to the radiofrequency radiation emitted by Wireless Smart Meters."
I've been chronically sick my whole life until the past 5 years. I moved away from my townhouse w/a smart meter into a trailer home w/o a smart meter. The nightmares I was having completely stopped. My twin sister just moved 2 blocks away a few months ago. I've been warning people to stay away from smart meters. The electrical company came thru and added a smart meter to her home only 3 or 4 days ago. My fiance and I were planning to get married in her home next Friday but not anymore (we are both disabled so travel is difficult). 😢🤬
I found your video interesting, especially from the standpoint of how France requires a “subscription” level according to the service main size.
Here in California, it doesn’t matter if you have a 100 amp or an 400 amp main, all residential customers (at least from our provider) pay the same rate for energy. Assuming they are on the same tariff. Tiered or time-of-use...you can choose either.
I am getting an analogue meter & they will come reading it to bill me. Im not sure if that takes me off tier stuff or what.
In Finland it is same in most places. In Helsinki it is 5.51 € up to 3x63 A. But in some places it can be for example 37.50 € for 3x25 A, 71 € for 3x35 A and 135 € for 3x63 A. It is not uncommon to have 3x25 A even with electric heating. They then make so that when you turn the sauna on the heating goes off. You of course pay also for energy you use. Also joining the network is more expensive te larger the main fuse.
When the California power company started installation of smart meters, I put a new analog meter in series after the power company's meter. Photographed the two daily and establish a relationship between them. I was ready for their shenanigans. Then we were allowed to opt out, which we did. Still have an analog meter today.
Do you have to pay an opt out fee?
We have a 25$ fee to opt out. Ridiculous
I thought I was being wise by opting for a smart meter in London UK last year. The utility co told me it was free. A couple of months later, they put my monthly subs up from £97 to £118, citing increased energy buy-in costs. Yeah right... Worse, the wall unit that is supposed to tell me everything I need to know, gives estimated readings because of time lags. It also eats batteries. Jeez, did they see us coming! In the UK the belief now is that most of this crap has been politically motivated. To me, that means the big (international) companies have got to the politicos.
Yup.
all pre-planned. With smart meters offering remote switch off, they can disconnect people selectively.
Not to mention you now have a wifi transmitter/receiver you can't switch off. My power supplier sent me a vastly inflated gas bill &
demanded a photo of my (old, 'dumb') meter (with serial number visible) to prove my reading. Very fishy. Softening me up for a smart meter obvs. (UK btw.)
Well, that was 13 minutes that could have been reduced to one.
yeah, waste of time and nothing really to gain.
Should I be paranoid?
Does it make any difference if I refuse to be paranoid?
Hi, i have a question.
We also have a smart meter, and i have a trifield meter, so i tested it and ours is pretty quiet. Now i am wondering. When you get such a thing they try to let you download an app and i guess that this will pass the wifi code to the meter, but we never did that. We never tried to access it so it can't connect to our wifi network. Could that be the reason that our meter does not produce much HF signals?
(i don't really know how these things work)
My bill went from 150 in the dead of winter then they installed a smart meter an now my bill was 350 dollars now I'm installing solar to run my house a company wanted 10 grand doing it myself for 2000 dollars
Not all of us are as smart as you Mike Smith
$2000 cost for solar with a savings of $350 a month.
6 months and you are making money.
*MAKE SURE THEY GIVE YOU A NETMETER, NOT A REGULAR SMART METER*
If they do a meter swap, watch this video on how the meter swap is done without putting you at a huge risk of fire.
ruclips.net/video/G0bq2Hn2vOo/видео.html
#1 If they install a smart meter and your power goes out, then they are an ARSONIST.
In Canada, it is against the law, all smart meter swaps have to be BYPASSED to keep the power on.
#2 If the customers UL certified meter base is NOT INSPECTED by a CERTIFIED electrician before the meter swap, they they are probably breaking the law and will increase the chance of
your home burning down by a factor of 10,000 times.
Remember, the only electrical device in your home that is NOT UL APPROVED is their smart meter.
Why do you ask a smart meter is not UL APPROVED
BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT BUILT STRONG ENOUGH TO MEET UL'S SAFETY REQUIREMENTS.
They are only certified to measure power consumed.
where did you buy your system that cheap ? I need to cut the cord with these greedy bastatrds ! HELP ME PLEASE !
Check with Mike Smith, he probably knows way more about solar than I do.
lol a 2k Solar system? Microinverters are $160 a piece and panels maybe $200? Plus racking, conduit, etc. lets round it to $400 a panel. Maybe 500w of production per pannel, per year. For a total of 2500kwh.
You need alot more solar panels dude. If you are in CA Your old $150 electric bill equates to about 750kwh a month. Which equals 9,000kwh, not 2500kwh.
Those panels will cut your bill by maybe 25% not eliminate it. Unless you built your own solar panels too. But hey I applaud your effort, solar is the way to go, most people need help doing it.
Tell us how to do this please! I need to get off the grid. The smart ass meter is making us sick.
In the uk they are selling the idea by giving you a separate pointless display gadget to “help you save power “by looking at what you use . I would hope to imagine most people know that switching on more lights and other items uses more units. Another way of control over the public by providing a grown up toy pice of crap to entice the idea. I will not be having one until the law demands it. Small power factor correction unit could possibly help if you are stuck with one?
christastic100 - I'm also in the UK and absolutely agree about your first point. We had one of these damned meters foisted on us about three years ago and have got sicker and sicker ever since.
In your penultimate sentence you say that you won't be having one until the law demands it. Why do we put up with being dictated to. We should be more like the french, don our yellow vests and just say NO! We do not consent.
Totally agree with this. I've had a smart meter installed twice, on the second one the 'smart monitor' didn't even work and I ended up paying a huge final bill.
Now I'm with a company that doesn't use these dodgy devices, for now at least
Some of the morons in this country out in Cali, signed up with Google where it controls everything in their homes. Google went down for a day so the brainwashed twits were locked out of their houses. I keep my phone powered off unless I need to contact someone. Using it as a flashlight to fix the furnace I'd laid it down on the ping pong table and 2 minutes later it started blaring a damn rap song! I never listen to rap and never listen to any music on that thing.
@@JimmyCrackCorn72 Hi Jimmy Are you in the UK? If so can you let me know which energy company you use that dont use smart meters. Thanks Clare
3:57 there you're assuming it's a single phase installation. In a lot of cases in Europe it will actually be 3-phase. Usually your calculation would then be √3 × 400 × amperage (or in my case because of a 1930's distribution substation: √3 × 230 × 63A = ±25kVA
That's interestinmg. So you have 230V 3-phase somewhere in europe?
Smart meter allow airplanes in the air to locate a specific house below. This allows airplanes equipped with directed energy weapon to zap any house they want with 100% accuracy, like in California and in Greece recently..
Bahahahaha! Good one. 😂😂😂😂
It’s true. I’m military and it’s very true
@@practicalwoowoo2540 clearly your military has an education problem.
@@fulknerra6116 Clearly your education has a military problem.
People complaining about health risks from smart meters while texting/chatting on mobile phones and uploading videos about it over wi-fi... I'm amazed to see so many ignorant intelligent people.
G Cochr haha good point
New world order/Illuminati confirmed. Anyway, gotta go track down these damn reptilian shapeshifters that keep calling my phone.
Same old tired line put out there by the Smartmeter people.
G Cochr and taking black tar heroine 💉
shhhh.... you're not ALLOWED to be observant or logical if you're viewing YT videos and reading the associated comments, and you're SURE as hell not allowed to THINK! not if you're a "gut ameriKan." and saying you're amazed... LMFAO!!! whereTF have YOU been a-livin'? now excuse me while i board my private jet to go 200 miles and give a speech about global warming, then drive around in my tesla that gets its power primarily from burning coal.
Um, this is nothing to do with the smart better and power factor. There's just a tighter tolerance on the breaker. It should have been set to 39.1A if it was supposed to limit you to 9kW. The breaker doesn't care about power factor. It's only looking at current.
Right, except the old main breakers weren't so adjustable. They were only adjustable to certain values. 3-phase breakers were typically adjustable to 20, 30, 40, 50, or 60A per phase. Single phase was usually 15, 25, 35 or 45A limit. So, for 9kW, they set it to 45A. That was nice. Now they're setting it precisely to 39.1A since the smart meters here can do that. Since we don't have massive hundred-amp hookups here as standard, people have to pay more for a beefier subscription. On top of it they say the smart meters are free, but they're actually passing the cost onto the consumer. And then on top of THAT, it turns out the power company here (which is the only choice where I live), did some evil financial nonsense with loans so that they were gonna pass an additional $500 million onto consumers. They got caught on that one, altho I don't think the case is over yet. The same has been repeated in at least 2 other countries I know of.
Much thanks for the info, everybody needs to know it and think about it!
not much information in that video worth anything...
ever since I have had a smart meter put in. my bill is going up and up beginning of the year £3 per day, now here in april/may it`s £5. per day we have not added any more electric Items. all we run is one tv. one washing machine two PCs one electric cooker low-cost light bulbs. one shower. two people in the house. It seems to be running away with its self. Is this now paying for the Installation?
As an advice: contact the company and ask them for a detailed account of your consumption. The thing about smart meters is that they collect and save the information before sending it to the central for processing. They should have the history of your house's consumption since the smart meter was installed. It not only shows how much energy you used, it should also show when you used it. You can compare that information with what you know you use and from there you can buil your case of whether or not they are charging you more.
One of the reasons they changed to smart meters is to prevent getting caught scamming you. Your bill is either based on your meter, if you are habitually delinquent, or your credit score, in which case, they just make the shit up. But they tend to get caught at that when people notice that nobody is actually coming to their house to read the meter at all. There was a guy who finally complained to the tv news, here, that he owns 4 houses, 3 of which are unoccupied, so he turned the main off, yet still, he was getting hit with $300 per month, on each of them. Those meters weren't even moving, but they didn't know that because nobody was actually reading them. But you will have to sue them, and that will cost even more, so if you want to keep that credit score, you'll just have to pay whatever they want. READ YOUR OWN METER AND COMPARE IT TO YOUR BILL before you argue with me, you'll see.
The water company does it, too. There were a couple of hundred complaints to the tv news one month about them, they were sending people $1000 bills. Then, on the phone, they were rude, and blamed the customers for having water leaks, and telling them to "get a plumber". When they did hire plumbers, the plumbers would tell them shit like "this is IMPOSSIBLE, you have a half inch water meter, and it CANNOT POSSIBLY flow that much water through it, even it it were uncapped and flowing at full capacity". When it made the tv, they said it was a mistake. But they were on the news a couple months later, admitting that they needed money in a bad way, and HAD to raise the bills, including a surcharge applied even if you don't use any water. Turns out that the lake is so low that all of the intake tunnels are high and dry, and they had to put in a new, hugely expensive tunnel all the way out under the deepest part of the lake to get the last of it. Coincidence? Not likely.
This is what happens with all monopolies.........control!!
Ya ya I once knew a guy who was on vacation for a month and turned everything off and when he came home he owed the power company and the water corporation 30 thousand dollhairs they took his home and now he lives in a mansion on a hill psychedelic music fills the air its true I sar it on the news I am never going on vacation I don't want to live in a mansion hill or no hill I just leave everything on and running electricity and water they are going to charge me anyway DUH
In my state, the bill always reflected estimated entries. Usually it was read but a few times a year it would be estimated then it was corrected on on the next read.
Yep that comment seemed silly, Bill is based of estimates how they supposed to know you switch your electric off will just continue billing you based off your estimated monthly cycle until they turn up and see that you meet is not moved and they'll usually credit you back if it's more than in the UK £100 in credit but unsure what it's like in the USA
I really get and enjoy your humor! Very refreshing, especially on a tech site! I don't get, however what you are saying; not because of poor conveyance... it's ME! Example: Every time a technician would service my heat pump, they always felt compelled to explain the physics of how it worked (possibly because I'm a nice guy) & they seemed to think if I understood this, that perhaps I could save $$$ and do some maintenance myself. I always listened attentively until there were done and afterwards I never understood a WORD! Even though thru the years it's been explained a dozen times.
P.S. I live in U.S. I don't detect an accent...France?!? Really!
He has a very typical french accent! You can hear it in the way he says his Rs.
I used to be a mechanic and currently work in telecom, and a lot of the time, we're just used to explaining what we're doing and why we're doing it. A lot of people are "helicopter" customers that just HAVE to know the whats and whys and how things work, either out of general curiosity, or because they think they can catch us trying to take shortcuts, etc.
There have been a number of cases of house fires caused by new smart meters not handling loads. In Pacific Power's case, they refuse any liability.
Scottie I downloaded a emf reader n it's detecting up to 455 in my home Is that bad I also downloaded I can't remember but it showed me where this radiation was coming from a neat by tower what do u think I also got a smart meterwhat do u suggest
We pay these people to rule us
definitely I cant think of one thing I can do without there permission
Our ATTENTION is valuable. we should be much morec discerning where we put it.
And we also pay them to manipulate, get us addicted, sicken and slowly kill us (:
Well you have another option possibly. Quit bitching and get yourself a generator and run that for a year and compare pocket book before and after. It’s never the customers problem it’s always the power companies. Flipping power companies are overseen by regulation committees at least here in the states that being said contrary to popular belief they can’t do whatever they want.
@xc5647321 xc5647321 Taking women as we pleased. LOL
I hate smart meters so much because I was harmed by radiation at work from electricity, that I am going to live off grid with solar power forEVER. This is an awesome channel and the negative remarks below are from the uneducated.
I bought a watt-o-meter and measured my frig, computer and several other items that run frequently. Calculating for monthly usage, I could only account for about 1/3 of my bill. So 2/3 of what I pay I can only attribute to lightbulbs, a couple loads of laundry each week and some oven and microwave usage. Just doesn’t seem to add up
Here in the UK they can not force a smart meter upon you by law.
You can refuse to have one fitted.
I have refused twice.
Cite and source it. Meter is owned by the electric company... Not the homeowner...
You touched on the monitoring of power use against time, some of these meters can differentiate between different equipment so the power companies can gather substantial data bases of your occupancy and what your doing. Imagine the benefit of knowing your occupancy routine to a telemarketer for example. We need someone to build a damper or filter device to strip out the info before it gets to the power company.
Mess with a meter and you commit a crime. Here in the USA, it's a FELONY.
LC does not appear to be advocating tampering with the meter itself. Just some sort of device that would "scramble (for lack of a better term) any appliance-specific signatures before they reach the meter. The actual power consumed (and recorded) would not change and the power company would not lose any billing revenue. What they would lose is any potential side revenue gained by selling your personal habits/information to 3rd parties. There is literally no legitimate reason why the power company needs to know anything about your usage habits aside from peak load times.
Bregil, there is so much ignorance and disinformation about what a smart meter can do. Those meters don't have the capacity to capture appliance specific consumption, other than perhaps the water heater, oven, furnace or air conditioner. Those are big loads and consume large peak current. That information is USELESS to anyone but the power company. They don't sell that data because no one cares when your water heater kicks on.
What you need to be concerned about are things like Alexa that LISTENS TO YOU AT ALL TIMES. Or your web browsers that keep track of the things you search for or shopping sites you visit.
I completely agree with you on the privacy threat that web browsers and "services" like Alexa pose. It's very much a challenge these days to even attempt to live a life that doesn't involve someone tracking your every move for ad revenue.........
You are nothing more than an ignorant fear monger spreading FUD. A smart meter has no way of determining what devices in a home are drawing power. A smart meter is recording what the old meter recorded; the total amount of power use since the last reading The utilities could have always sold that data to anyone in the past, however people are making shit up because they don't know a damned thing.. No doubt there will come time when new or remodeled build will be wired to support load management, but that's years into the future. Interfere with the utilities billing could get someone disconnected.
Did you know pyramids harness possitive and negetive magnetic fields..
Not lightning, magnetic ground and Earth fields..
Hi, may I know your company need capacitor for meter production?
Thanks I recently got a 1700.00 bill. They can not tell me how it's happened. I have 3 window ac units and a mini fridge lol. It's still at 400 a month. 10c kwh
New residential service in the United States:
100Amp minimum.
120/240Volts AC operating at 60 Hertz. This is derived from a Delta system.
3 wire system from utility. 220Volts between Phase A and Phase B.
Wire #1: Phase A = 120Volts to grounding conductor.
Wire #2: Phase B = 120Volts to grounding conductor.
Wire #3: Grounding conductor (bare, neutral).
Residence provides the grounded conductor, providing a 4-wire system to the structure. We utilize grounding and grounded conductors. These conductors are bonded together at the main service.
WE DO NOT PAY EXTRA MONEY FOR USING MORE ELECTRICITY (non-commercial). We pay for the power consumed.
We have a fixed rate for residential customers. There are different rates, but they are fixed. We may pay $ 0.10 per kilo Watt hour for normal day usage and $ 0.08 per kilo Watt hour for the air conditioner. Here in the U.S., a separate meter enclosure is installed IF the homeowner would like to take advantage of the lower rate for air conditioning.
Basically, there are 3 different codes to follow here in the U.S. The National Electrical Code (NEC), The NFPA (National Fire and Protection Agency) and the authority having jurisdiction (residential codes / city building codes). In the beginning, the minimum service rating was 30Amps. Then it went to 60Amps. Today, the minimum is 100Amps.
Residential customers requiring higher voltage or 3-Phase power must apply for special circumstances (or create their own on-site via phase generators and transformers).
The electric utility company doesn't call the house asking when, how, why or what we are doing with the energy we consume. If we need more energy, we add a larger service. If the wires to the house are not large enough for the energy we need at the residence, THE UTILITY COMPANY pays to change the service wires to a larger size. Here in the States, the homeowner is responsible for the electrical equipment from the point of attachment (POA). Anything before the POA is the responsibility of the electric utility.
Regarding smart meters. You're not getting sick from them. They produce far less radio noise than the Bluetooth, 4G LTE, 5 gHz Wi-Fi, LED's, fluorescent lighting, UV rays and whatever else you can think of. Don't forget about AM/FM, television and HAM radio broadcasting. Smart metering is going to be your friend one day. Why? Bi-directional metering. When you produce energy from your solar panel (PV), wind generator, battery bank or whatever else ... you will get CREDIT back from the utility. No, you will not get a check back for the energy you may produce as you're not a licensed utility. But, you won't get an invoice at the end of the month either if you manufacture more kW than consume.
Why'd you come here to say this? I bet you copy and pasted this little diatribe on every anti-smart meter YT video you could find.
And if you have an electric car charging that could cause a bit of problem as you'll be quite close to your amp limit
If you have a 60kw car charging in a reasonable time could be tricky.
would be 10 hours at 6000 watts, 26 amps at 240 volts, about the same draw as the common US electric clothes dryer, my car only has a 25 kilowatt hour battery but I only charge at 3000 watts since my first Leaf only could charge at that rate
Kubla84 more like 14-16 hours 6kw x10 = 60kw would presume 100% efficiently
The hell, a 6kw clothes dryer? Is everything in the US build that shit? Now i understand why house fires happen when the exhaust gets clogged
The other issue is the old real fuse (physical cartridge style) has typically a 1.5 times rated current must blow rating to prevent nuisance blows
Ah that makes sense, I was just wondering how I get away with using an 8.5kw electric shower, at the same time as a 3kw electric heater plus all the other smaller loads without blowing the 45 amp fuse.
@@wongowonga as the main inlet fuse belongs to the electricity supplier and is tamper protected and always live you have to call them out to replace it. My 55 year old one gave up the ghost about 10 years ago and not sure if the fuse was to blame or the holder but both were replaced
@@wongowonga I have been an electrician for about 25 years and have never seen a 45 amp main breaker. NEVER. The smallest I have every seen is 100 amp for a main. Also water heaters only use one heating element at a time, Never two. if your water heater has two elements it is only to switch from the bottom element to the top element for fast hot water recovery, but they never both work at the same time.
@@rayberger2694 Interesting... I didn't open the box but is says 45 amp on the outside? Right where the mains come into my house.. I'm in the UK..?
@@wongowonga I should have said I am in the USA, Most homes here are 200 amp main service, My home is smaller so I have a 100 amp / 220 volt main, that is 2 lines of 110 volt that are 180 degrees out on single phase.
I'm reading over and over about health, charges and fires when smart meters are installed, there's too many people complaining, no way they're all lying!!....
HOWEVER I have a story to share about welded contacts and fires.
We lost power for 2 days, so I killed my 150 or 200A main breaker, (which most homeowners never touch it) and took my meter off, and ran my generator. Power came back, disconnected my generator, turned on the Main breaker, and smoke immediately started coming out!! It caught fire as I stood at staring at it!
I killed the power again, pulled my meter again and found the main breaker hotter than hell. Guess what was wrong?? Homeowners don't pull their meters, ever. They also never shut off the Main breaker of 150 or 200 Amps. Turns out that outside where the main lines come in the house, there is no drip loop, They sealed the wire with their stupid ass puddy, it leaked and corroded the main breaker for years.
Because you never pull your meter and your main, the contacts stay tightly together. As soon as you turn it to off, it will not make that same good connection again due to corrosion.
Fire was caused by a tiny leak, corroded contacts, and disturbing those contacts when I pulled my meter and shut off my main...
What if we I turned it back on it still worked, the contacts still supplied me with power and I walked away. As soon as I turned on an electric dryer and an oven pulling 50Amps, those contacts would have failed and could start a fire...
When this 1st happened, I was stumped, and very concerned. But once I found the problem, I realistic that this can happen to anyone who disturbs the connections as I did. I guarantee you, with no hesitation, that a similar thing similar to this has burned homes down.
SORRY FOR THE BOOK!!
Somebody's fired. Drip loops are a no-brainer. Ain't no putty, caulk, mastic or anything else that will work as well as gravity. SIGH...
Have you watched Stop the Crime.Net - Deborah Tavares? Somewhat of an eye-opener.
ATC Madness Hey I learned a lot from that story. Thank you for taking the time to write it.
Thanks for posting this info. I have been expecting power companies to start charging for VA (Volt-Amperes) for some time now. In your example; 0.9 power factor, the generating capacity has to 11% above the RMS (Root Mean Square) value to supply this imperfect load. However, due to the long transmission line distance between the power generation point and your home, the power company has to actually supply many times that 11% due to the power lines radiating harmonics (which gets absorbed by anything nearby the power lines). I suspect power companies are getting squeezed by intense pressure to keep costs as low as possible yet, the demand for power keeps rising, which means they have to continuously update thousands of miles/kilometers of power lines to keep which is very expensive. I suspect the Smart Meters are one such attempt to more accurately measure actual of power. I also realize the power company could easily use this to their advantage.
Speaking for myself, I have been concerned about power factor at home for about the past 5 years. I have been choosing appliances and light bulbs that have a power factor of 0.9 or higher. Not only is this good for the Grid, it also helps if we are without power due to a storm. That limited amount of power the generator produces goes farther.
I was intrigued by your comment about radiating harmonics losses. Resistive losses and hysteresis losses add up but I'm not familiar with harmonic losses. It appears you are talking about parasitic inductive loads to use a different term? Back to the reasoning behind higher losses during poor power factor load, air conditioning load is the worst culprit. AC units are an inductive (motors) load. This load usually happens during particularly high consumption periods. As heat losses from generator to consumer are current squared, the losses increase substantially during hot weather. It doesn't help that the circuits have higher resistance when warm, slightly aggravating the situation. Utilities have large capacitor banks that help but the losses do add up. Just for interest, during high inductive load, the generators have to increase their excitation current to provide more reactive power resulting in a different loss that isn't really measured. As a percentage, this loss is minimal. (more excitation current = more current to the magnetic poles to increase the magnetic field that passes across the output coils thus increasing the generator voltage)
I knew if I read enough comments I would find two guys that actually had a brain. Thank you both for some technical insight and a conspicuous lack of tinfoil hat conspiracy theories. Am I the only one that noticed, the "smart meters" we have in the states don't limit the current? He keeps talking about smart meters in France having a breaker that will trip at 45 amps. Maybe I just misunderstood? Also, I find it slightly amusing how the typical American 200-amp service is considered small by modern standards. And in France, 45 amps and seems to be the norm!
I don’t understand it. We have washed out our education system to where people who are functionally illiterate can graduate high school. They cannot find jobs, go on relief rolls, or sell drugs, do something illegal to get by. It doesn’t take even a high school graduate to read a meter. What’s wrong with employing these people? The cost of paying high-paid computer programmers and high-paid electrical engineers to make the smart meters could be diverted to low-paid meter readers.
Charles Long your right smart meters do not pay taxes, or pay into Social Security, buy cars, food, ect.
But smart meters do not get bit by dogs, threatened by angry customers for no pay disconnects, fall on ice walking routes... The list goes on and on this is why automated meters are here. There are new job opportunities involved with the technology.
@Erik Sayer
And treason, accompanied by cancer. Some tech maybe good, but this is a PROVEN killer.
This doesn't apply in Canada. Large industrial customers pay KVA but residential customers pay only for Watts. Furthermore we don't have the 45Amp breaker you talked about. The current is only limited by the main breaker in your electrical panel inside your home which is usually 200amp or 400amp.
Interesting. I live in France and smart meters are in effect compulsory. What this article does not cover is the ability given to EDF to change the price of electricity without notice. And what I don't understand is what happens after you are automatically cut off. How do you get reconnected? Do you simply register for an increased power "subscription" so that you never get cut off ?
You can turn it back on yourself, but it'll trip again if overloaded. Then, from what I've read, people call EDF and say, "What le heck, mec?!" and then they tell you that you need to pay more and they'll turn it back on. Didn't know that about the price being increased without notice. That's pretty annoying.
ScottiesTech.Info there used to be tariffs which responded automatically to the general load on the public supply. One of them took the form of very cheap electricity when consumption was ver low. That tariff was withdrawn some years ago so only of academic interest, but some local groups of trendy lefties are very concerned about this kind of issue, and are holding out against smart meters for that reason. Thank you for your advice Scotty.
We had a smart meter fitted 3 years ago, since then, my wife left me, I lost my job and my dog died, they certainly have a lot to answer for!
I am so sorry to hear your smart meter killed you dog.
Most of the time it's the wife or husband that gets *MURDERED* by their very own smart meter.
Frederique Zug it wasn't the smart meter that killed my dog, it died of flu, flu (flew) under a bus😊
Hate to lose a good dog.
But it's even worse to lose a family member.
I think almost 100 deaths every month is excessive.
The smart meter's KVA rating has nothing to do with losses between the generator and the smart meter. Basically power is just power (watts), but the equation everyone knows, P = IV is really only applicable to DC power, or AC power where the current and voltage are 100% in phase. That is, for AC power, voltage typically looks like a sine wave. It turns out that for AC power, current draw *also* tends to look like a sine wave (though not always). However, the two sine waves are not usually completely in phase. For an AC circuit, the idealized real power is more like P = IV * cos(theta), where theta is the phase difference between the voltage waveform and the current waveform. Idealized assuming the current waveform is also a sinewave, which it might not be.
The KVA rating, on the other-hand, is a measure of apparent power, not real power. It is simply the RMS voltage multiplied by the RMS current. This is NOT a measure of actual power, but a measure of apparent power. It ignores the relationship between the voltage sine wave and the current sine wave. In fact, it is a measure of worst-case stress on a power circuit, which is why a lot of equipment has a KVA rating.
So the best way to think about this is simply that KVA is 'apparent power' which is used as a measure of stress, a measure of the absolute worst case a piece of equipment can deal with, whereas KW is 'real power', as in conservation-of-energy real power. The real power will be lower than the apparent power.
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One final little bit of trivia. AC Electrical loads do not uniformly pull current from every point on the voltage sine wave of the input. For example, a simple-stupid rectifier circuit just pulls power out of the peaks of the sine wave (a half rectifier pulls power only from the positive peak, while a full rectifier pulls power from both the positive and negative peak). In this situation, the current pulled from the AC power input is basically zero at all other points except the top and bottom of the sine wave.
Old style mechanical meters had a terrible time converting such stupidly bad rectifiers to actual power consumption. It would always underestimate the actual power, so consumers using old badly rectified equipment always got somewhat of a free ride. Fortunately, those types of circuits were not usually used in heavy duty equipment, so power companies didn't care so much. Newer meters, and smart meters, are able to measure *actual* power ... actual watts, and consumers no longer get a free ride on such devices. Not a big deal because most modern devices don't have stupid rectifiers in them anyway. Most electronics these days are based on switching power supplies, for example, which can draw power from the entire AC cycle (or at least most of it).
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In the old days, a shop whos electricity use was mostly from 2-phase and 3-phase motors had to actually get a special schedule from the power company. The power company would calculate the actual power factor such that it could compensate the under-readings the old meters gave to figure out the actual power consumed. This, for example, is what the power factor specification for a three-phase motor would be used for.
Power factor... it isn't really a specification of 'real work' (what is 'fake work' supposed to be? Heat losses from the circuit? Remember, conservation of energy again....). It's basically a specification to get around the fact that power monitoring equipment used to give the wrong readings for AC consumption when the current and voltage waveforms were out of phase.
But again, also, its a good way to specify the maximum stress a circuit can handle. Stress on an electrical circuit tends to be related more to the peak current in each cycle and not just the average. While KVA is not a perfect measure of peak current, its calculation of RMS current is a much better measure (will produce a higher, more appropriate value) than trying to calculate a current from the real power consumption (which is basically impossible for an AC circuit where the current is out of phase... well, that's what PF (Power Factor) is, so not impossible... just that there is no single value for it. You'd have to calculate the actual difference to come up with the PF, and then you could estimate based on real power using PF to convert).
-Matt
Thanks Matt, very clear.
So once again poor folk have been getting a free ride and rich folk have been doing all the work... you are a spoilt child
+H.Q. Wagon
At the end of the day, if you used the electricity it's only fair for everyone that your usage be recorded accurately.
Whether the rates on your bill are fair is a different question altogether.
Yes you are correct, I was complaining about the producers.
Rick Sabian Background information is important. Otherwise it's too easy to claim conspiracy when you just failed to grasp the concept.
I though power factor can be compensated for by conneting your power to a bank of capacitors or inductors as required. I also thought this was mainly an issue for commercial users rather than domestic users. I suppose smart meters facilitate closer monitoring. But the pf can be adjusted.
By adding capacitors to an inductive load (doesn't work well on non-linear loads) the PF can be adjusted, but the real power (kW) will never go down.
Agreed, industrial users are typically the only customers paying for PF penalties due to their large inductive loads.
Last year I was forced to have a smart meter if I wanted to continue my energy supply with E-on so I thought to save hassle of changing supplier I would finally give in. I had one fitted but just over a year on I have health problems including insomnia and I did not really think about it until today but the meter is high on the living room wall in my small old cottage. It is in a wooden box and directly above it on the first floor is my bed and my head is in line with the box and about 4 feet above the meter when I am lying down with only wooden floor boards as a barrier. I have just emailed E-on about this and asked if there are any health risks. I know they are going to be
biased but it will interesting to see what they say. I have also just ordered an EMF reader to check emissions with. It is all a bit worrying, especially since this is a small one bedroom cottage and I cannot move my bed. I read in the USA these meters must be positioned outside of properties and also you should make sure you are at least 50 feet away from one where you sleep.
What happened.
Here in Ontario, Canada, #Smartmeters are a way for the Thought Police to monitor WHEN and HOW MUCH energy we use in our homes. For example, homemakers are now PENALIZED for doing their freakin' laundry at a time convenient to them. We are PENALIZED into spending the weekend away from our #WORKGULAGS doing laundry. It is an #invasive method to peer into our privacy. I just got an energy bill which warned me that I used more kw/hr than last year at this same time. I HAD A FREAKIN' HOUSE GUEST, and it's none of my #SocialistOverlords bloody business.
go go gadget Ontario!!
You could look at it another way, the day time rates are the "standard" rates and those using power outside of those times are being rewarded. Peak time power consumption and capacity is a genuine problem, and if homemakers are put out a little bit, I hardly think that is the end of the world. No one is forcing you to do laundry on the weekend, if it's that big a deal to you just pay the extra and do it in peak time.
At least we are only charged for how much power we actually use, it sounds like they are charged a base rate of $100 or so for a 45 A service (which is basically nothing, the minimum in Ontario by code is 100Amps) on top of how much power they are actually using. I know we like to think we are getting screwed here but to be honest, if those are real numbers, I would be interested to know how much they are charged on top of this base rate for a kwh, it could end up being a lot more then what we pay for much less power.
Um actually by definition that is precisely their bloody business! They are the "power company". Understanding power demands is pretty key to their business. Do you think there is some magic container of electricity they hook up? They have to plan years ahead.
Most people are reducing their electricity usage each year. If you didn't have a house guest, would have thought "why am I using more electricity?" or would you have likewise moaned? In the UK a lot of people pay for electricity by Direct Debit. An increase in usage would result in an increase in their fixed monthly DD payment. It is your choice if you don't want to utilise off peak electricity - in the UK we will need more than 3 times the amount of electricity generation for a switch to electric cars, and those that don't care about smoothing out peak demand should be the ones paying extra money in their bills as their usage will require more power plants.
French judge rules smart meters unsafe and ordered them to be removed. 2019
John Doe, please can you link an article or website with more detail.
@@markdaicz3048 it was an article from a paper, three months ago roughly, it was read on mark ceylon's channel, one of the three, Mark seylon or srilankerc.
John Doe Noted. Thanks very much
@@markdaicz3048 you are welcome😉
@Dave Micolichek look m8, if you ask nicely, I'll give you 666 of my tinfoil hats to cover your smart meter with.
I hear a random clicking noise in my house since the installed it. There is also an nErE9 code that is displayed on the smart meter. An error code?
Can I change back to the old meter or is it to late.
I am not sure about the health effects. But I heard that"smart meters" can cut your power remotely. This enable the power company to avoid peak power plants.
Also could be used for protection in case of fire or other problems and also if people don't pay the bill.
There are also other legitimate reasons.
Speaking of which in terms of cutting off power during Peak demand.
They should go back to do metered systems and have non-critical loads on one and everything else on the other.
You know in other countries they have to do right meters.
N15 Paragould houses we actually originally had to meet even though there was only one family living there.
One meter was the stare of meter for everything but one device.
The other device was a 50 gallon electric hot water heater.
It was on a meter that had it in a new grid time switch.
A k a timer that was set before the meter was installed.
It would only turn on during certain times of day.
The excess to set the timer which is a mechanical timer was sealed.
Times of day were fixed bike Rippers inside the meter fishbowl.
But there was a flat head screw like thing on the shaft to set the time to the proper time wish I had a cover that had a meter seal through it.
Also later on at the newer house still in Wisconsin by the way.
They offered a program where there was a meter that was an off-peak meter that registered power at different times at different cost per kilowatt hours.
Basically you'd use what you could it was Heavy loads at night and are hours of off-peak use.
We actually wind up using Climbers on heavy appliances.
We actually had a heavy duty outdoor lighting timer on our dehumidifier even.
Also I was tempted to build a device and hook into the washing machine and dryer so that we could turn him on without being there at the right time.
Now with the capability of doing smart grid things like that can be set up automatically on some appliances.
Under smart grid settings. Or something somewhere.
i put a copper wire mesh screen around my meter so they still have to negotiate with Fluffy to read the meter
The wireless meters use the 2G mobile network. I saw when they installed mine they put a SIM inside. They originally put one that sent the data through the wires but it gave an annoying high pitch noise so they changed it.
Can't understand why my electric bills hiking up after installing smart meter even though usage less. Think is it possible remotely the system generates wrong billing with scammed Wifi network for smart meters?
Last week I finally got rid of my smart meter after 9 years. When they put it in, I was renting and so it would have been hard for me to get rid of. But I bought the place 3 years ago. They are rolling out 5G where I live in Florida and it has been making me sick. So I have been looking for other ways to reduce my exposure. A huge ping every two minutes. If I had know I would have found a way to get rid of it years ago. OPT OUT!
@J.P.S 💚 meanwhile, you’re commenting on something he said two years ago! 😂🤣😂Stop trolling and get a life!
@J.P.S 💚 According to the 9th District Court, you are the one likely to be having the mental health problems if you are into 5G. Case 20-1025 EHT/CHD v FCC re: FCC Order 19-126 re: the FCC’s Insufficient Analysis of the Adequacy of the RF/MW Radiation Exposure Guideline
The U.S. Federal Court ruled on August 13, 2021, that the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) must explain why it ignored science showing harm from radiofrequency/microwave (RF/MW) radiation as the FCC failed to respond to evidence that the testing of cell phones is flawed; to address evidence of prenatal harm, a potential link to ADHD, and harm to children; evidence that this radiation causes electro-sensitivity; blood-brain barrier damage; cognitive & neurological problems; and evidence of mechanisms of harm; harm from long-term exposure; pulsation, modulation, and the effects of new technologies like Wi-Fi & 5G. The Court noted that the FCC failed to address evidence of environmental harm. The court remanded the decision to the FCC.
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*Supply (SMPS) Dirty Electricity ~ When current flows through the wiring of a building it generates a surrounding electro-magnetic field that radiates outward all around the wires at right angles to the direction of the current’s flow and reaches out into the room. It is well known that switching power supplies can generate spikes of so-called electromagnetic interference (EMI), or high frequency transients, which then travel along the wiring in the walls, radiating outward in the wiring’s electromagnetic field. Such spikes are known as ‘dirty electricity’ and can be conducted to a human body that is within the range of the radiating field. This function is on all smart meters used by all utilities and is on constantly, 24/7.*
*Concerning “smart” meters: Dr. Martin Blank, Associate Professor, Department of Physiology and Cellular Biophysics, Columbia University: “Cells in the body react to E.M.F.’s as potentially harmful, just like any other environmental toxins, including heavy metals and toxic chemicals. The D.N.A. in living cells recognizes electromagnetic fields at very low levels of exposure [not covered by current outdated laws]; and produces a biochemical stress response. The scientific evidence tells us that our safety standards are inadequate, and that we must protect ourselves from exposure to E.M.F. due to power lines, cells phones and the like, or risk the known consequences. The science is very strong and we should sit up and pay attention.”*
Bet Dr. Blank has a cell phone, probably more than one, uses lots of different electronic devices in his house, watches a TV, and uses WiFi connections for his computer. How about the emissions from all the stars in the universe and the decay of naturally occurring radioactive elements. Love the sky is falling used by those wanting fame and fortune. Wonder why he is ONLY an associate professor? Where is his boss and what he thinks of Dr. Blank's statements? BS to the max. Living is dangerous to your health. You ARE GOING TO DIE. Just a question of when and how. Get used to it.
@@tiredofbs6835 LOL . . . . Sure spewed tons of assumptions there friend.
Yes, and what has that got to do with smart meters? SMPSs are used extensively in pretty much all consumer electronics.
Move along troll...@@tiredofbs6835
SMPS has a line filter to prevent noise from entering your wiring, but of course some cheaply made things maybe still do.
I'm 75 & I live in a small city and a few years ago, they sent a questionnaire asking if we wanted to switch to a smart meter. Of course I sent back an emphatic 'No!.' Now, today, I hear someone banging on my back wall. He sees me & comes around to my door. I ask what's going on & he says they're installing smart meters. I told him that I opted out & he said that he didn't know about that & they were installing them all over. (Young guy & he probably wasn't around for the questionnaire.) I told him that I didn't like that idea, and he said that only I could access it and i said, 'if I can, they can!' We went back & forth for a while and then I told him to do me a favor & please check it out online. He acted like a little boy, head down, shuffling his feet and kicking at the dirt and then said, "Well, I'm not a liberal or anything.". 😂😂. I almost burst out laughing, but I just said, 'Well, it sounds like a liberal.' 😂
Does anyone know if this is the same craic with the UK Smart Meters?
My security cams have night vision. Therecis a pulse coming from my smart meter. That I can see on my cameras.
money, follow money, they take our money!!!
We pay them to enslave and murder us.
Great job of breaking it down so I could follow and understand. Not only did I subscribe but you have inspired me to continue my education online . You are a excellent teacher.
continue your education.. dont follow this channel...
Is it the smart meter or is it the local power companies line going into your home? which is causing my house to have high EMF and high radiation levels before the meter box and before entering the fuse panel was almost 400 the radiation I believe was 38 this was before entering my home when I check my home , light switches plugs and anything that consumed power like a lamp it magnify my EMF to harmful levels concerned about what to do,how do I handle this it's coming from the power companys residential lines to my home?? I use the handheld kmoon GM 3120
extremely expensive for electricity after they installed the smart meter, so dumb meter was better in all ways
@Dave Micolichek Trust me when I say Smart meters do tend to be more expensive. They offer these cheap 'night rates' but make up for it with expensive rates during the times when you're actually using the power. Also, since they know when you consume the most electric, they can also sneakily change the rate at any time, charging you the higher rate at any point without you being any the wiser. So, yes, the meter is largely to blame.
and yet nobody talks about the additional features or the sudden disappearance of many short term outages... its like with new smart grids they can better balance power across the electrical network... and cut off fallen lines and other issues.... you also dont need a disconnect in some instances as the smart meter is now both... so when you run solar its not a major hassle...
@@ScottWinterringer i have tiny outages after the smart meter was installed, pretty annoying. Never had them in the past. Its a lot more frequent that the news talk about outages in large areas for several hours now than ever before... Depressing, its like walking backwards
They wanted to put one in here, I told them no way I don't want one. Lucky because my 50 year old meter has worn a bearing out and spins slow. Every 1400 kWh thru the meter equals 1kwh on the meter. I'm happy with that.
Wait until they take that meter out and replace it, they'll back date a shit load to you lol.
+Bro Tang You're a complete and utter moron. You will have to comply with a replacement, since this one will NEVER be certified in any way. And then they will calculate your usage back for the last 15 years and you are completely fucked.
until they find out and bill you estimated usage.
There is a statute of limitations and check limit of small claims court
I worked as a meter technician for many years. A guy told me that a meter he once had spun FASTER as it got older . He got a friend to check it out and submitted his findings to the local electricity board and they quickly replaced his meter. He subsequently received a refund of £50. That was in the 1950s !!
Another Issue - watched a tear down video and these smart meters and they can measure True, Apparent and Reactive power thanks to KVA billing.
Simply put, you can be billed more for using the same wattage.
Isn't it possible to see your network traffic if you use the power line networks???🤔
I'm glad I've been off the grid for 25 years. It's a pain sometimes and isn't free, but watching videos like this, I realize that I'm freeeeeeee!
interesting...off grid...I would definitely be interested in how you manage to stay worm during the winter ?
Worm😆
Probably wood stove or fireplace. And that depends on where they live. They may not live where there’s harsh winters.
I had crazy and constant headaches and was nervous all the time when I slept near one for almost a year and had no other electrics nearby in the room or out of the room in the corridor. The only thing constantly on was that smart meter. As soon as I requested it to be removed because of other issues with it I noticed my headaches were gone and I was a LOT calmer. Never will this be near my body again!
I have a question to Scotties Tec at the end here! Is anything positive any more? I don't think the guys below feel their nice though - I have a feeling that the health reactions are as bad as living next to phone masts as I did once and never slept had a stressful job with 4hours sleep max! I wonder if we can refuse to have a 'Linky" in our new build were moving to in France??
You can refuse the linky. They'll charge you a fee for the meter-reader to come out, but you can. So far tho, the Linky isn't wireless. It sends low-frequency signals over the power lines. So, not quite as bad as the wireless smart meters in other countries!
Can anyone help me with this question? I live in a 18 unit apartment where the 18 separate smart meters are located in a maintenance room about 50 feet from my apartment. The door is locked except when the maintenance guy needs to go in there. My question is am I being exposed to any of those frequencies, and if so are they powerful enough to do me damage? Thanks for any help on this.
If you stand in a spot between the meters and a turned-off big screen TV in a dark room, you should be able to see your skeleton on the TV screen. No need to go to the doctor for x-rays anymore:)
Children and elderly are at the greatest risk, but these things are soooo strong that they're very dangerous for everyone. Smart meters almost killed me after 9 meters were moved into the electrical closet across the hall from my apartment. After 3 weeks I could no longer speak, walk, lift my head, my fingernails were separating from my fingers, my skin was burnt on scalp and face, when I swallowed food it felt like my throat and stomach were burnt, my brain was so fried from the radiation that it was making electronic noises (did you know that a brain can do that? it sounded like R2D2), I couldn't construct basic sentences in thought either, and my medical tests proved radiation damage to every organ. Every single organ. I was consequently homeless for 9 months trying to avoid meters. What you have to do is turn off your fuse box in order to stop the biological effects on your body caused by the smart meter on your electrical wiring. It's a literal life saver. What I went through I have 2 clients going through also, and my doctor said he's getting 2 new patients per week now developing the same issues. What Smart (Demon) Meters will do is make you permanently or semi permanently, impossibly sensitive to all electricity and your cell phone. I now have to have all clients put phones on airplane mode when they come in or I will collapse from pain of burning skin since I was so badly injured by smart meters. I work with the public so I have a small scale statistical view of about how many people this must be effecting world wide. It will get much worse if everyone doesn't demand landlines, get off their cell phones with exception of absolute and total necessity, put smart meter covers on their smart meters, shut off fuse boxes as much as possible, hard wire their laptops and desktops with ethernet (which is super easy and way better internet). The real reason smart meters are being installed is much more nefarious than anyone could ever realize, I assume, b/c of the class action lawsuits worldwide over it for the last 12 years that STILL aren't seeming to get people very far. (But remember that there was a $28 million study done in 1992 for 6 years by the country's leading radiation specialists and it proved extreme danger in long term use of any wifi, let alone the hundred times stronger smart meters. That information was swept under the rug. Although it was already known by the military in the 40s b/c it's the EXACT same technology.) Anyway, maybe smart meters are 1000 x stronger b/c people are reporting near death experiences world wide. Some of the radiation experts we've talked to are saying that doctors worldwide are calling them to get educated on how Smart meters work b/c the hospitals are being flooded with people who are radiation damaged since Smart Meters were installed. People in apartments will have it much worse b/c while they can shut off THEIR fuse boxes, you can't convince your neighbors to. While people in apartments in some states can opt out of smart meters, you can't convince your neighbors to. It was my neighbors' nine meters that almost killed me bc I opted out, but they didn't. HOWEVER, the opt out option is now becoming known to be a scam b/c they will just put a different meter on that has the same technology, which may be what they did with my opt out meter. OR they will say, "yeah no problem. We've got a guy available in 2 weeks to come out and take that off for you." ......... and they will never come. No matter how many times you call, they will never come out. So, you must do the things I've suggested above to save yourselves. OR move off grid to a wifi free and EMF free community, but MIGHT be far easier to arrange your home and business or office to be safe. Wifi free communities are starting to pop up all over the world though. Very embryonic stages but they are popping up everywhere which is very telling. There are now law firms devoted only to cell tower removal b/c cell phone technology is so lethal. Smart meters are FAR more dangerous bc they're strapped to your homes and one military weapons specialist said they are equal in strength to a military grade radiation weapon/they're more imminently lethal for some. Like I said, enough people are reporting near death after only 3 months or 6 months that imagine the untold suffering of people that don't know why they're dying. Somehow they heal in their cars, yet they go home and within an hour they are being rushed to hospitals. They heal in the hospital but then go home and almost die again, or they do die. Anyway, Class Action lawsuits worldwide, yet they haven't been shut down yet after 12 yrs of a massive fight. Silent, but massive. Media isn't covering it, yet it's far more dangerous than C*vid ever could be. Symptoms can be very similar b/c it attacks the lungs as well. Causes really violent vomiting, super human like fever b/c of radiation burning the body, etc. Better make sure your C*vid tests are truly accurate b/c that may not be what you have. When you call the energy companies to tell them what happened to your health, they will always hang up on you before you can say too much more. Then they have a supervisor call you back saying, "If you have any questions I can answer, please call ...." As if I didn't have only statements to make to her informing HER. I don't need her to answer questions with fake, scripted answers written by the questionable scientists hired by the energy companies.