It was a good line like RICH "TOMBSTONE" JACKSON, LYLE ALZADO, PAUL SMITH, PAUL COSTA, etc..or the Fearsome Foursome..or Buchanan, Culp, Brown, or PAGE, ELLER, LARSEN/SUTHERLAND, MARSHALL..on second thought..
R.I.PPPP. John Madden, pictured @9:00 celebrating his Raiders' victory over Cleveland in a CLASSIC!! Would love to watch this whole game{here?!) and see Blanda's heroics, as I was too young to watch & appreciate this game, at that time!!....Ohh yeah, and gotta love the classy United Airlines "pitch" @2:37! :-))...
Warfield for Phipps. Homer Jones for Ron Johnson. The decline of Bill Nelsen. Terrible moves. The beginning of the end. Amazing veteran depth kept this team alive for a further 3 years and nearly defeated the unbeatable Miami Dolphins in the 72 playoffs, There was still great reserves of strength, Phipps even showed positive signs of development along with an improving defense for a while but the general trend was downward for the Browns.
The veterans were the last holdovers from the Paul Brown era....once those players retired or were traded, Modell's lack of football expertise in his front office hirings revealed the organizational weaknesses that weren't rectified until Ernie Accorse became GM in the early 80's.
@@howardcosell2022 💯🎯😭🏈Ohhh yea, FOR SURE!! They had Shula & Marino BEATEN in what would've been one of the NFL's all~time playoff upsets....Most unfortunately, a harbinger of playoff things to come over Marty Schottenheimer's otherwise stellar coaching career.
That Week 6 shutout victory in Miami was Cleveland’s only win ever down there in the Orange Bowl - including 3 Playoff Bowls (aka Runner-Up Bowls) and two Playoff games.
They used to have games that looked like wars with the physical Cardinals in the 60s, but in the new division, they had to contend with the emerging Bengals, who won a division title in only three years of existence, then it really heated up with the Steelers in the 70s, who would dominate the AFC Central.
Honestly, the three newest NFL teams--Saints, Falcons and Vikings--should have been moved to the AFC. The Browns could have been in a division with the Lions, Steelers, Bears and Packers (Redskins, Colts, Eagles, Giants; 49ers, Rams, Cowboys, Cardinals)
I always thought Cleveland had great linebackers - Costello, Matheson, Lindsey, Jim Houston, Bill Andrews...their D-lines always were physically imposing, too.
You won't believe what one of the Cleveland players was reading on the flight home! (Here's a clue which I can't say the magazine's name on You Tube--it's one that has the saying 'Entertain-ment for Men!')
A blunder for Modell to make the jump to the AFL/AFC at the merger. He was certainly paid off handsomely by the league (with the Steelers and Colts) to do so as the conferences had to be even. The rivalries with all of the other old-line NFL clubs were put on the back burner and rekindled only every few years with the realignment.
Pitt went to the AFC because of the rivalry with the Browns. But, it was no coincidence that other than expansion teams in the 1960's, the league's two youngest clubs in terms of their establishment, were asked to go. One thing that people not around back then just cannot fathom today, but it was true, was how the AFC was looked at as a different league, when it was just another conference. It took awhile before that went away. There initially was an ALL AFC ALL PRO TEAM selected by the UPI AND AP AND FOOTBALL WRITERS, with AFC PLAYER OF THE YEAR, ROOKIE OF THE YEAR, DEFENSIVE PLAYER..and Coach of the Year.. It took until the late '70's before all that was scrapped.
Vikings couldn't go because of their established rivalries with Green Bay, Detroit, and Chicago. The shrewd Tex Schramm brokered a deal to remain in the NFC and compete in the major media markets of DC, New York, Philadelphia
In 1970, you could absolutely have looked back on Skorich’s tenure with the Eagles and predicted his future: presiding over a consistent and inevitable decline of a proud franchise, with that decline briefly delayed by the efforts of the quality squad he initially inherited. Skorich might have been a great guy for all I know, but history shows he was a bad head coach. It took many years for both the Eagles and the Browns to recover from his coaching tenures.
@@massvt3821 Ads featured teams' helmets. Lone nonconformist was Vikings who had Northwest Airlines which was based out of Twin Cities. United also had similar ads with Major League Baseball featuring the teams' caps.
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Nelsen had a decent arm but he was brittle in both body and mind. This is a longer version than the copy I have . I thought the Browns put out an abbrevated version in 1970 due to thier disapointing year. Thanks again Comrade ! i also notice 1970 was the year NFL Films started using the phrase "they played a perfect football game." Theres no such thing.
@@frederickkruse4815, isn't it fun to make allegations that are never backed up. Since he provided the evidence himself, the 'backing up' we can safely say, he is either gone from this earth, does not read responses to his quasi-genius posts for a variety of possible reasons, or is just so much hot air. And, we can back it up. Nelsen was a good qb who just could not shake injuries and he made a mistake going to the WFL. He also helped turn Doug Williams into a decent NFL QB, as later on he coached with T.Bay in their early years under his old head coach at USC, JOHN MC KAY. He was a guy who constantly played with pain, and yet kept coming back for more. Unless this detractor of his has evidence, Nelsen showed himself to be a bulldog well before there was a dogpound in Cleveland. YEP.
@@robertsprouse9282 When healthy, he was quite good, in fact, and he did very well. But ultimately, his knees failed him. Trading Ron Johnson, and letting Charlie Harroway go to Washington didn't help the cause, either.
What else no one may know, Coach Blanton Collier was practically deaf! If that wasn't a huge problem I don't know what is! Skorich alienated and discarded several vets . Gary Collins said Skorich would only bring him back as a tight end. Collins said stick it!
RIP , Jack Gregory. Unofficially credited with 14 sacks in '70. Naturally, the Browns sent him to the Giants a year later. Does anyone remember what the transaction was?
@@howardcosell2022 Thanks, that explains how the Browns earned the opportunity to whiff with Steve Holden and Pete Adams in the first round of the '73 draft. (To be fair, I think Adams had injury problems.) They did draft Greg Pruitt in the 2nd round, one of my favorites.
Leroy Kelly. Great Runner I'm glad I got a chance to see him play.
I watched that first Monday night game when I was in high school.
So did I!
Such a great Cleveland defensive line with : #80 Joe Jones , #72 Jerry Shirk , #81Jack Gregory & #71 Walter Johnson .
It was a good line like RICH "TOMBSTONE" JACKSON, LYLE ALZADO, PAUL SMITH, PAUL COSTA, etc..or the Fearsome Foursome..or Buchanan, Culp, Brown, or PAGE, ELLER, LARSEN/SUTHERLAND, MARSHALL..on second thought..
@@robertsprouse9282 Yeah, many don't mention Denver - and they should. That was a big, intimidating front the Broncos had.
R.I.PPPP. John Madden, pictured @9:00 celebrating his Raiders' victory over Cleveland in a CLASSIC!! Would love to watch this whole game{here?!) and see Blanda's heroics, as I was too young to watch & appreciate this game, at that time!!....Ohh yeah, and gotta love the classy United Airlines "pitch" @2:37! :-))...
Warfield for Phipps. Homer Jones for Ron Johnson. The decline of Bill Nelsen. Terrible moves. The beginning of the end. Amazing veteran depth kept this team alive for a further 3 years and nearly defeated the unbeatable Miami Dolphins in the 72 playoffs, There was still great reserves of strength, Phipps even showed positive signs of development along with an improving defense for a while but the general trend was downward for the Browns.
The Browns effort in the 1972 playoff game against Miami was amazing, I so wish they would have won that game.
The veterans were the last holdovers from the Paul Brown era....once those players retired or were traded, Modell's lack of football expertise in his front office hirings revealed the organizational weaknesses that weren't rectified until Ernie Accorse became GM in the early 80's.
@@bigjoe4110 So was the 1985 playoff game at Miami when they led 21-3 in the 3rd QTR losing 24-21
@@howardcosell2022 💯🎯😭🏈Ohhh yea, FOR SURE!! They had Shula & Marino BEATEN in what would've been one of the NFL's all~time playoff upsets....Most unfortunately, a harbinger of playoff things to come over Marty Schottenheimer's otherwise stellar coaching career.
We grew up near pittsburg keep those videos comin comrade
That Week 6 shutout victory in Miami was Cleveland’s only win ever down there in the Orange Bowl - including 3 Playoff Bowls (aka Runner-Up Bowls) and two Playoff games.
They used to have games that looked like wars with the physical Cardinals in the 60s, but in the new division, they had to contend with the emerging Bengals, who won a division title in only three years of existence, then it really heated up with the Steelers in the 70s, who would dominate the AFC Central.
Honestly, the three newest NFL teams--Saints, Falcons and Vikings--should have been moved to the AFC. The Browns could have been in a division with the Lions, Steelers, Bears and Packers (Redskins, Colts, Eagles, Giants; 49ers, Rams, Cowboys, Cardinals)
We grew up on twipf
Bo Scott gave me one of his jerseys. I never forgot.
Nelson was a very good QB, but his knees were about 147 years old..
Nice United Airlines commercial drop in. Very subtle
Nowadays, its the subtlety of LINCOLN FINANCIAL FIELD, nrg Stadium, United Airlines Arena..lol
Steve Sabol (bless his soul) discussed this in one of the installments of "Lost Treasures of NFL Films."
I always thought Cleveland had great linebackers - Costello, Matheson, Lindsey, Jim Houston, Bill Andrews...their D-lines always were physically imposing, too.
Ty for the videos
You won't believe what one of the Cleveland players was reading on the flight home! (Here's a clue which I can't say the magazine's name on You Tube--it's one that has the saying 'Entertain-ment for Men!')
Bo Scott gave me one of his jerseys. I haven’t forgot.
Still trying to figure out why the Browns traded Jack Gregory????
Joe turkey Jones too!!
A blunder for Modell to make the jump to the AFL/AFC at the merger. He was certainly paid off handsomely by the league (with the Steelers and Colts) to do so as the conferences had to be even. The rivalries with all of the other old-line NFL clubs were put on the back burner and rekindled only every few years with the realignment.
Pitt went to the AFC because of the rivalry with the Browns. But, it was no coincidence that other than expansion teams in the 1960's, the league's two youngest clubs in terms of their establishment, were asked to go.
One thing that people not around back then just cannot fathom today, but it was true, was how the AFC was looked at as a different league, when it was just another conference. It took awhile before that went away. There initially was an ALL AFC ALL PRO TEAM selected by the UPI AND AP AND FOOTBALL WRITERS, with AFC PLAYER OF THE YEAR, ROOKIE OF THE YEAR, DEFENSIVE PLAYER..and Coach of the Year..
It took until the late '70's before all that was scrapped.
Vikings couldn't go because of their established rivalries with Green Bay, Detroit, and Chicago. The shrewd Tex Schramm brokered a deal to remain in the NFC and compete in the major media markets of DC, New York, Philadelphia
In 1970, you could absolutely have looked back on Skorich’s tenure with the Eagles and predicted his future: presiding over a consistent and inevitable decline of a proud franchise, with that decline briefly delayed by the efforts of the quality squad he initially inherited. Skorich might have been a great guy for all I know, but history shows he was a bad head coach. It took many years for both the Eagles and the Browns to recover from his coaching tenures.
I met bill Nelsen when I was kid in 69
Interestingly the Detroit Lions 1970 highlights also "plugged" United Airlines
It was the naming rights-like tactic of the era, get a corporation, a bank, a beer, an airline to sponsor your team's highlights.
The ad usually something like "12 out of 13 NFC teams fly United", which led to the question: "Which team didn't?"
Good in-flight pics of Alex Karras, Wayne Walker, Lem Barney, Jerry Rush....and Coach Joe Schmidt; "fly the friendly skiies"..
@@massvt3821 Ads featured teams' helmets. Lone nonconformist was Vikings who had Northwest Airlines which was based out of Twin Cities. United also had similar ads with Major League Baseball featuring the teams' caps.
Where did u get these videos?Awesome bro
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Ty comrade my brother played 4 the browns
What is his name?
Ot penn st billy contz
Nelsen had a decent arm but he was brittle in both body and mind. This is a longer version than the copy I have . I thought the Browns put out an abbrevated version in 1970 due to thier disapointing year. Thanks again Comrade ! i also notice 1970 was the year NFL Films started using the phrase "they played a perfect football game." Theres no such thing.
What suggested Nelsen had a brittle mind?
@@frederickkruse4815, isn't it fun to make allegations that are never backed up. Since he provided the evidence himself, the 'backing up' we can safely say, he is either gone from this earth, does not read responses to his quasi-genius posts for a variety of possible reasons, or is just so much hot air. And, we can back it up.
Nelsen was a good qb who just could not shake injuries and he made a mistake going to the WFL. He also helped turn Doug Williams into a decent NFL QB, as later on he coached with T.Bay in their early years under his old head coach at USC, JOHN MC KAY.
He was a guy who constantly played with pain, and yet kept coming back for more. Unless this detractor of his has evidence, Nelsen showed himself to be a bulldog well before there was a dogpound in Cleveland.
YEP.
@@robertsprouse9282 When healthy, he was quite good, in fact, and he did very well. But ultimately, his knees failed him. Trading Ron Johnson, and letting Charlie Harroway go to Washington didn't help the cause, either.
In 1972 the Dolphins played 17 of them
Yes there is no such thing as a perfect game but there was a perfect season the 1972 Miami Dolphins
08:45 wow ..blanda 52 yard Straight on fg on that cow pasture after leading comeback at 43 yo playing qb
Bill nelsen was an all pro qb when healthy! know for outstanding field leadership albeit a somewhat average arm at best.
What else no one may know, Coach Blanton Collier was practically deaf! If that wasn't a huge problem I don't know what is! Skorich alienated and discarded several vets . Gary Collins said Skorich would only bring him back as a tight end. Collins said stick it!
Fans were great
"No Knees" Nelsen.
How do I view the private videos? Looking for 1970 Steelers.
I don't have any Steelers videos. This is a Browns 1946-1995 site. The unlisted videos are not football videos.
F Shitsburgh
First song is actually "Lets Go Amigos" by Johnny Pearson. ruclips.net/video/mHWbxzStTbk/видео.html
Are you conrad dobler?
Nope.
Im a steeler fan lol
I drank w kosar bad move bernie was wild
83 85
But man i loved cleveland
don gault had a pass a rating of 2.2
Y aren't any of those guys in the hall of fame o I know there not shitsburg or Dallass
Leroy Kelly and Gene Hickerson are in the Hall of Fame. Dick Schafrath and Gary Collins should be in too.
@@comradedobler3407 Erich Barnes as well ...
5th rd 83
Hooker showed potential but if Jones met expectations, they would have easily won the division.
Before juicing was norm
RIP , Jack Gregory. Unofficially credited with 14 sacks in '70. Naturally, the Browns sent him to the Giants a year later. Does anyone remember what the transaction was?
Freddie Summers, 1st and 2nd round picks in 73
@@howardcosell2022 Thanks, that explains how the Browns earned the opportunity to whiff with Steve Holden and Pete Adams in the first round of the '73 draft. (To be fair, I think Adams had injury problems.) They did draft Greg Pruitt in the 2nd round, one of my favorites.
I remember Joe "Turkey" Jones picking up Terry Bradshaw and slamming him to the ground.
Before the NFL went to hell. Now half time shows now make me want to throw up. Tckets $8,000.
Frank Ryan was a better quarterback than Bill Nelson
Nelson was under rated...led team to playoffs every year on those brittle knees
@@robertroberts9782 Frank Ryan won a 🏆 NFL Championship 1964