One of the advocates indicated that he would not acquiesce and would file a memorandum. Which is a respectfull indication of his denial to do what the judge asked for.
They should stop misconducting, are you here to protest that racist drunk judge and the zuma fixer judge Hlope, you are an idiot if you are.. What would have happened to a white judge if he drove into some black guys house and started calling him the K word or one that spent his first month in office advocating among his other white judge mates to stop a steenhuizen enquiry, black nationalists are very dim..
@@michellegrobler9732 turns out black excellence is a bit of an oxymoron at this point . People like Zondo are more an exception than the rule in SA. Apologies if the truth hurts.
This black judge must be struck of the role, cause he is a racist & must not be on the bench, a racist judge cannot make sound decisions, he is not even fit to be a judge by being a racist & have already show his true colors
😂😂🤣Very funny. Malema does not care about your airtime. Go ask ENCA, they and all other racist media are banned from all EFF events and in that time EFF has grown exponentially. Your media has very little impact on the popularity of leaders like Mr Zuma and Mr Malema.
ENCA are still banned from all EFF events, yet EFF continues to grow exponentially😂😂😂. Mr Malema or Mr Zuma just don't require your airtime for publicity.
Have you even once thought about what you said? Preferably before you said it? Doesn't seem that way because you're basically saying: "There's a genocidal political leader in charge of a militant party that's taking over the entire country's judiciary...but guys shut up about it and don't say anything about him". ....that's basically your point. Because whether we speak about him or not, Malema will still have the ideas he has and will still do what he is doing. Actually pointing it out is much better than keeping quiet and letting him do what he wants to. It's equivalent of a German in the 1930's telling people not to speak about Hitler or anything he did "because if we give him attention we're giving him what he wants".
There's no way these boys will stop talking about Malema. They are obsessed, they have nightmares about him. He has full time residency in their small brains According to them he's single handedly selecting judges😅. He's the most powerful man on that JSC committee.
They were fighting the color of the person holding the whip, they loved the whip, they werent ever gonna change the whip, same story across Africa, as long as its a black guy with the whip then human rights are restored..
Education can be bought, but wisdom is a gift from God. As for "deside"😂😂 you need to go collect your refund wherever you studied at, you were cheated.
@@Scruffpuppie-j7y That is the question DA and the semi-literate matric graduate Steenhuisen refuses to answer😂🤣🤣We are wondering how DA members rejected Dr Phalatse in favour of John
Morning 🌞 Thanks again for your comments and again I agree with you Using the skin colour which affects all South Africans leaving us without Justice and divides genders ....
And then the kakistocracy wonders why our highly educated, top earners, past business owners, previous employers, and would-be taxpayers are elsewhere. And their children too, also potential ...
@@RG-jr8ym Are you Zulu? If not, sit down you are too forward. ANC has allowed you too much arrogance. You don't see any Africans discussing how European land should be shared amongst the Europeans. Your days of arrogance and privilege from apartheid gains will come to its logical end sooner than you realise.
Jip they want to fuck around and take no accountability for their own actions, if you fuck around and find out and just say sorry that must be the end of it.
Thanks Ramon, you are the first to bring up the fact that the immigrant blacks who kinda decided to settle and kill for land here in Southern Africa actually never OWNED anything, only the king own the stolen property .
The only indigenous that have traditional land is your rural area people, Zulus, Xhosas, Tswana, San, etc. There are also traditional agreements between them and old white groups that have agreements on whites having land. There is records of this. But besides that, there was nothing on the land when whites first arrived, no industry nothing. So how can some individuals say the land was stolen if there was no ownership of the land to begin with? Stolen by whom from who?
Judges are supposed to be impartial, if you have a judge that has a problem with skin colour then just maybe he should not be a judge. Lay a complaint against him and get him out of the system.
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Ask the black lawyers why threy dont become advocates
The Banana Republic that South Africa is becoming, there is more racism now in South Africa than ever before due to the EFF. If you vote for me EFF you vote for racism and lawlessness.
Malema is a demagogue who devides. That's is his intention. Stupid, uneducated, and uninformed people are following him. His speeches are nothing but hate speech.
And ultimately civil war 😢. Look at the BIG PICTURE - we're ALL being played against each other because Satan's spawn and his brother's from other Mother's are hell bent on destroying ALL of us! 😡. What better way to do it than by playing the race card again and again and again...
And ultimately civil war! 😢 Look at the BIG PICTURE - who's SHAKING THE JAR? Mark Twain had a famous quote: If you catch 100 fire ants and 100 black ants and put them in a jar, nothing will happen. However, if you violently shake the jar and dump them back on the ground, the ants will fight until they eventually kill each other The red ants think the black ants are the enemy and vice versa, but the REAL ENEMY IS THE PERSON WHO SHOOK THE JAR!
But it's ok for him to be racist😂. Elsewhere he reckons racism is ok, as long as it's against whts. Now he wants to come talk about racism, when he himself is a racist
@@Drunk_YetiYou make sense . You can however point out the racism in the personal level - regardless of the race of the racist . To me ANY thoughts and opinions based on race , good AND bad , are racist . So giving free pass to a certain race is racism . The perceived suppression of said race does NOT change this fact.
It has always amazed me that other africans who were colonized by other EU countries, those people speak fluent french or portugese and or english !! How is that?? 😞
Ephesians chapter 6: our war is not against flesh and blood but against evil spirits, evil powers and evil kingdoms in the air better known as religion as defined in Mathew chapter 16 and Revelation chapter 13!
And a white guy is actually the head of the EFF. Malema's best friend is a white gangster smuggler guy. He is the biggest hypocrite and racist on the planet.
I Found an 2014 article about our matric kids academic records that stated at a 50% all subject criteria for 7 subjects only 24% of matrics pass. They show that the kids who wrote english as a first language the pretty much language the world should understand and uses had like a 22% pass rate worse than science and maths and you think fast forward today they can become legal representatives while they cant speak/pass eh eh eh eh english... 80% pass rates hiding a massive failing african reality. Atleast they pass life orientation but we clearly understand why our SOEs are burning and the legal bench is no BEE
I have a mate who is a member of the Cape Bar and he is basically unemployed because of his white skin, so not sure where the comments are coming from 🤷🏼♂️
Honestly if you think that is dumb, i cant understand why we allowed underdeveloped people at the helm of this nation anyway. So whos the bigger idiot here id ask. And even more ridiculous, is that we knew this evolutionary gap and spoke about it on television and radio since the 50s. Nobody listened and here we are.
Until the once beautiful country in in ruins then they beg whites to come back and restore it to it's former glory 😢 History is there to learn from - if only people would...
If im paying for 2 advocates I can assure you on general principle that none of them would be black! So why would this so called judge be asking the advocates and not the clients of said advocates
Its strange how they want to pick and choose from Africa and The West as it suits them If only more of their followers were seeing the hypocrisy and double-standards
Another note, to become an advocate you have to do pupillage. and its basically one year practical experience. currently you do not get paid for it unlike article clerk work, which is required to become an attorney.
We appoint an attorney to use their knowledge & EXPERIENCE in law & unbiased commitment in order to win a case for the client. The choice of attorney is normally based on their history & reputation for winning cases, therefore the fact that they may be white or black should not influence this choice. If the selection of attorneys & Judges were based on color & enforced, what was the point of our Constitution & Constitutional Court being negotiated & established in the first place.
The Judicial System is either adopted from other civilisations or it should be rejected in its entirety. To do otherwise, attempting to compromise, undermines the very foundations whereupon the Law has been founded, weakening the Nation State and subjecting its people to untold abuses and judicial ambiguity. The political class is already altering the Judicial processes to ensure the population hae little to no access to a Court of Law. The substitutes being tribunals and Community scheme, making legal representation unaffordable, altering the rules of Court to allow for the abuse of Judicial processes, the 15-20km rule which encourages collegiate influence in Magisterial Courts, transforming Courts into courts of arbitration and not a Court of Law. This is exacerbated when the lack of locus standi of a plaintiff is not taken seriously, often allowing the plaintiff to continue as a going concern on the pretext that no evidence has been heard to prove the lack of locus standi depsite the withdrawal of plaintiff. The case should be dismissed with costs awarded and the legal council penalised (sanctioned) for bringing a matter before court without having established the locus standi of their client. The debt collectors, lawyers and politicians love the new found status quo, viz. amended rules of Court ca. 2010 onwards. IMAGINE A BOOT STANDING ON YOUR FACE FOREVER, ..., it is up to you!
Sure maybe because SAs original law was based on civil law from Europe - why dont we ask the judge to write us an essay on why he thinks he has the right to wear colonial clothes, live in a colonial house & drive a colonial car - the worst thing Europeans ever did was export their inventions & education. Let them go make their own law - oh they had that, the law of the jungle where after 2,500 years they still could not copy let alone invent a wheel.
Very important topic you guys are discussing. However, I think you guys did not consider the equal stance of common / customary law in the constitutional dispensation. To view customary law as a limited system in the first place defeats the developmental ethos of the bill of rights and ignores the years of development that common law has had to develop, whilst customary law was banished as savage law. The issue as I see it is that common law has been institutionalised as the default legal system in the country to the point that any divergence from the norm is frowned upon. I mean you cannot be mad on a politician who insists on the prioritisation of indigenous law, the constitution actually demands that. But if an African Male who lives in Mooikloof Pretoria refused to attend a criminal court appearance in the Pretoria Magistrates court or the Pretoria high court and demanded that the City establish an indigenous counsel before which he will appear and be tried customarily he would be called mad and probably convicted for contempt. Not because he doesn't have the right to do so but because that would be viewed as the kind of think that happens in the "Tribalands". You see my morning shot friends, that's where the problem is.
They must expelled that black racist judge, he must not even be allowed to be on the bar, cause he is a racist period, south-africa cannot afford a racist judge in our courts where he is supposed to be unbiased/ fair with his judgements !
Get Malema off the JSC, he has nothing to offer other that division and strife. I have a great regard for our high courts and his influence is just lowering standards. Tsjeeek!
In a country where a majority of the populous is Black, most of the populous won't mind when racism is practiced on the minority Whites. What scares me though is that this isnt a Black VS White situation, this is a Black VS Coloured,Asian,White,Indian etc situation at hand.
What on earth is the meaning of this comment? Are you suggesting racism is only ok if practised against a certain group? Individual prejudice such as racism is fine and is ones own business but when you want to use it to gang up on a particular to further your own ends it becomes problematic.
White judges only judge base on the colour of the person in court. You are a black suspect and the complainant is white ,then you are definitely going to jail and for longer time than whites who committed similar crimes.
Any action and ideology based on race ,whether positive or negative , is racism . The perceived suppression of said race is irrelevant . Two wrongs never make a right .
The only known politician who has captured Judiciary in South Africa is Ramaphosa. This video is just no different than Juju-phobia. No politician in the history of SA democracy has ever done such in your face politics than Rama.
truth be told your limited understanding would be the one to make you think that customary law is limited, the fact that your university textbooks did not extensively cover the vast subject matters in customary law does not mean that certain laws do not exist within the practice. And for your information we have figures like Queen Modjaji a perfect example to counter your point on that women are sidelined. Your narrative seem to insinuate that black people were to some extent lawless without the constitution, And I can assure you that you are incorrect!
Because being black isn't a skill and fail safe narrative because if that was then SA wouldn't be burning and SOE run by blacks would be scoring professional standards
Its funny that the person that wrote the book for customary law in South Africa is not even African....... but we'll just gloss right over that one. I find this podcast entertaining, this level of ignorance is not unique to South Africa, its alive in America, Australia and South America as well as India. Colonial mentality is a fickle thing. Speak on things you know about coz this Neo-con propaganda that you guys are peddling is obviously way outside your scope of comprehension. Your view points are so text book, which is typical. All your doing is naval gazing in an echo chamber. Come up with something NEW, like really NEW. I know it's hard but try some objectivity...... think outside the confines of privilege and just maybe you'll get some real dialogue going. Customary Law doesn't have anything to say about orphans....... geeezus !!!! Spend more time doing research, thorough research. University are part of the colonial enterprise, do you really think they'll teach you anything in-depth that is not within the scope of imperial expansion. "Do these people"...... I guess that right there gave me an answer.
To have both of you discussing about our country is sickening. You both are not Africans. We should start discussing that as Africans. It is clear you don't appreciate the level of our tolerance towards, maybe we should stop.
4:00 You boosted Customary Law over Roman-Dutch Law in your livestream on Sunday 25 February. 9:00 Customary Law does not cover the "You Stole our Land" BS! Sometimes you can't have it both ways! Here you have it laid out by a Lawyer @kingsaidso7258
The advocates should refuse his request and submit a complaint to the jsc.
Jsc is occupied by politians won't make a difference
I world rather sue him
Recuse the moron
One of the advocates indicated that he would not acquiesce and would file a memorandum. Which is a respectfull indication of his denial to do what the judge asked for.
A complaint that will take 15 years to have any effect...
My response: " because black judges are being chucked out of the judiciary for misconduct faster than they are being added"
They should stop misconducting, are you here to protest that racist drunk judge and the zuma fixer judge Hlope, you are an idiot if you are.. What would have happened to a white judge if he drove into some black guys house and started calling him the K word or one that spent his first month in office advocating among his other white judge mates to stop a steenhuizen enquiry, black nationalists are very dim..
Drunk racist judge and zuma fixer judge Hlope, is that the best you have 😂
@@Mark-px7hj Is that an example of "black excellence"?
@@michellegrobler9732 turns out black excellence is a bit of an oxymoron at this point . People like Zondo are more an exception than the rule in SA. Apologies if the truth hurts.
This black judge must be struck of the role, cause he is a racist & must not be on the bench, a racist judge cannot make sound decisions, he is not even fit to be a judge by being a racist & have already show his true colors
Aren't you allowed to select a team? Gosh, this is so unconstitutional. Julius would love all of the cases against him to disappear...
And they do!! 😡😡
@@kelzaefrazer5391 that man is so sneaky!
Julius is half clever . Dangerous mix for somebody leading the disillusioned.
Don't give Malema any airtime. It's what he wants. Can't you see that ?
😂😂🤣Very funny. Malema does not care about your airtime. Go ask ENCA, they and all other racist media are banned from all EFF events and in that time EFF has grown exponentially.
Your media has very little impact on the popularity of leaders like Mr Zuma and Mr Malema.
ENCA are still banned from all EFF events, yet EFF continues to grow exponentially😂😂😂.
Mr Malema or Mr Zuma just don't require your airtime for publicity.
Attention seeking children😢
Have you even once thought about what you said? Preferably before you said it?
Doesn't seem that way because you're basically saying:
"There's a genocidal political leader in charge of a militant party that's taking over the entire country's judiciary...but guys shut up about it and don't say anything about him".
....that's basically your point.
Because whether we speak about him or not, Malema will still have the ideas he has and will still do what he is doing. Actually pointing it out is much better than keeping quiet and letting him do what he wants to.
It's equivalent of a German in the 1930's telling people not to speak about Hitler or anything he did "because if we give him attention we're giving him what he wants".
There's no way these boys will stop talking about Malema. They are obsessed, they have nightmares about him. He has full time residency in their small brains
According to them he's single handedly selecting judges😅. He's the most powerful man on that JSC committee.
Why should justice have a colour? Always wonder what life would be like if we’re all just blind.
Welcome to south africa, is this your first visit ?
Lots of car accidents.
Fought for all these "rights" but now that they applied it's "not right"...
They were fighting the color of the person holding the whip, they loved the whip, they werent ever gonna change the whip, same story across Africa, as long as its a black guy with the whip then human rights are restored..
Does Malema not have a white lawyer.?
Were has Malema ever studied in any form for him to have the right to deside in any justice system .
Natural intelligence, that he obviously has, is a wonderful thing😂
Education can be bought, but wisdom is a gift from God.
As for "deside"😂😂 you need to go collect your refund wherever you studied at, you were cheated.
@@susankoster5644natural intelligence 😂😂😂 so I can become president with no education cause i have natural intelligence 😂 how stupid
Well no other politicians have been asked this...😂
@@Scruffpuppie-j7y That is the question DA and the semi-literate matric graduate Steenhuisen refuses to answer😂🤣🤣We are wondering how DA members rejected Dr Phalatse in favour of John
Morning 🌞 Thanks again for your comments and again I agree with you Using the skin colour which affects all South Africans leaving us without Justice and divides genders ....
And then the kakistocracy wonders why our highly educated, top earners, past business owners, previous employers, and would-be taxpayers are elsewhere. And their children too, also potential ...
What a disgrace. Shame on you Judge M Motha !
My response would be: "Its not my fucking job to educate you on why there are no black advocates."
White people are less than 7% and that should be the demographic in all sectors.
@@biko8229do you know how much land the zulus stole from other tribes after killing them..
@@RG-jr8ym Are you Zulu? If not, sit down you are too forward.
ANC has allowed you too much arrogance. You don't see any Africans discussing how European land should be shared amongst the Europeans.
Your days of arrogance and privilege from apartheid gains will come to its logical end sooner than you realise.
@@biko8229 Are you having chest pains?🤣🤣
@@biko8229 calling other people land thieves when you are land thief yourself.. enjoy those chest pains dear malema follower🤌🏻😆😆
Jip they want to fuck around and take no accountability for their own actions, if you fuck around and find out and just say sorry that must be the end of it.
Thanks Ramon, you are the first to bring up the fact that the immigrant blacks who kinda decided to settle and kill for land here in Southern Africa actually never OWNED anything, only the king own the stolen property .
The only indigenous that have traditional land is your rural area people, Zulus, Xhosas, Tswana, San, etc. There are also traditional agreements between them and old white groups that have agreements on whites having land. There is records of this. But besides that, there was nothing on the land when whites first arrived, no industry nothing. So how can some individuals say the land was stolen if there was no ownership of the land to begin with? Stolen by whom from who?
Judges are supposed to be impartial, if you have a judge that has a problem with skin colour then just maybe he should not be a judge. Lay a complaint against him and get him out of the system.
Ask the black lawyers why threy dont become advocates
We have allowed all this crap for far too long
The advocates in question should report the judge for disciplinary action to be taken against him
The Banana Republic that South Africa is becoming, there is more racism now in South Africa than ever before due to the EFF.
If you vote for me EFF you vote for racism and lawlessness.
Malema is a demagogue who devides. That's is his intention. Stupid, uneducated, and uninformed people are following him. His speeches are nothing but hate speech.
Becoming 😂
And ultimately civil war 😢. Look at the BIG PICTURE - we're ALL being played against each other because Satan's spawn and his brother's from other Mother's are hell bent on destroying ALL of us! 😡. What better way to do it than by playing the race card again and again and again...
True
And ultimately civil war! 😢 Look at the BIG PICTURE - who's SHAKING THE JAR?
Mark Twain had a famous quote:
If you catch 100 fire ants and 100 black ants and put them in a jar, nothing will happen.
However, if you violently shake the jar and dump them back on the ground, the ants will fight until they eventually kill each other
The red ants think the black ants are the enemy and vice versa, but the REAL ENEMY IS THE PERSON WHO SHOOK THE JAR!
We want jungle law but we like kfc/ money /wiskhy and and and ...
You can't fight racism with racism my boet.
If facts are racists you can't even think
@@Drunk_Yeti you can certainly try
But it's ok for him to be racist😂. Elsewhere he reckons racism is ok, as long as it's against whts. Now he wants to come talk about racism, when he himself is a racist
@@Drunk_YetiYou make sense . You can however point out the racism in the personal level - regardless of the race of the racist . To me ANY thoughts and opinions based on race , good AND bad , are racist . So giving free pass to a certain race is racism . The perceived suppression of said race does NOT change this fact.
It has always amazed me that other africans who were colonized by other EU countries, those people speak fluent french or portugese and or english !! How is that?? 😞
Someone at work called me a racist with a wave of the hand and I said not to call any one at work a racist because it is politics.
Ephesians chapter 6: our war is not against flesh and blood but against evil spirits, evil powers and evil kingdoms in the air better known as religion as defined in Mathew chapter 16 and Revelation chapter 13!
But doesn't Malema use white lawyers...?
Don't forget his white bodyguard
And a white guy is actually the head of the EFF. Malema's best friend is a white gangster smuggler guy. He is the biggest hypocrite and racist on the planet.
Yes
What's convenient for them.
And the white sigarette guy that gives him money.
World Class African Standards wher 30% is excellent ..
Woodhead
Why do you need a law for trade when the custom is to just take it??
I Found an 2014 article about our matric kids academic records that stated at a 50% all subject criteria for 7 subjects only 24% of matrics pass. They show that the kids who wrote english as a first language the pretty much language the world should understand and uses had like a 22% pass rate worse than science and maths and you think fast forward today they can become legal representatives while they cant speak/pass eh eh eh eh english... 80% pass rates hiding a massive failing african reality. Atleast they pass life orientation but we clearly understand why our SOEs are burning and the legal bench is no BEE
Bantu Education was better
It is the client's right to choose whoever they want to represent them. Why does Julius have white advocates representing him?
Maybe the other were all blacklisted?😂😂😂
I think we have established on what side of the bell curve this judge's IQ sits.
I have a mate who is a member of the Cape Bar and he is basically unemployed because of his white skin, so not sure where the comments are coming from 🤷🏼♂️
Unemployment because of white skin, how sweet!
Decolonise science... decolonise law.. scratches his head, why doesnt he have his wakanda.
Honestly if you think that is dumb, i cant understand why we allowed underdeveloped people at the helm of this nation anyway. So whos the bigger idiot here id ask. And even more ridiculous, is that we knew this evolutionary gap and spoke about it on television and radio since the 50s. Nobody listened and here we are.
This judge needs some serious help
Isn't it obvious that Julius' focus on "African context" and "African identity" presupposes an innate difference between blacks and whites? #racist.
The never ending story...being white in africa is " taboo"😡😡😡
Being white on planet earth is taboo, just look at US daytime tv they have shows dedicated to debating the evilness of the white man
Until the once beautiful country in in ruins then they beg whites to come back and restore it to it's former glory 😢 History is there to learn from - if only people would...
Being wht anywhere in the world now is taboo
@@alwynsmit3546 😡😡😡😡
If you talk about white excellence,it's racist ☝️
I like the strategic/prominent display of your wall art..🔫🔫🔫
In George Orwell's 1984, Winston's job was to edit history and memory, and (delete) articles conflicting with the new lie.
Yknow...a "Fact Checker".
If im paying for 2 advocates I can assure you on general principle that none of them would be black! So why would this so called judge be asking the advocates and not the clients of said advocates
women and coloureds incl LOL
They should ask God 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 that question
za is so screwed (unless you hadn't noticed) 😂
Good morning
He just looks like a "box"..
He is very very cunning, got you all discussing it, like throwing a pebble into a still pond to see who's who.
The law of dumfukistan...
Its strange how they want to pick and choose from Africa and The West as it suits them
If only more of their followers were seeing the hypocrisy and double-standards
Who?
More cases of this kind will follow.. ?
Irony? The judge wants blacks on a case about BEE?
The court is movie with actors and scripts, they all work together agaist us the people.
Because there is not many baffoons with that type of qualification.
Another note, to become an advocate you have to do pupillage. and its basically one year practical experience. currently you do not get paid for it unlike article clerk work, which is required to become an attorney.
The best thing to do is to ignore his stupidity.
We appoint an attorney to use their knowledge & EXPERIENCE in law & unbiased commitment in order to win a case for the client. The choice of attorney is normally based on their history & reputation for winning cases, therefore the fact that they may be white or black should not influence this choice. If the selection of attorneys & Judges were based on color & enforced, what was the point of our Constitution & Constitutional Court being negotiated & established in the first place.
They crave attention!
Like children being naughty to get attention.
No merit in what that judge (and Malema) say ... just verbal diahrree.
Draw pictures - Matchstickmen...
That Adv Tembeka Ngcukaitobi is one of the biggest racist legal practitioners.
Black lawyers association.. racist name🤬
The Judicial System is either adopted from other civilisations or it should be rejected in its entirety. To do otherwise, attempting to compromise, undermines the very foundations whereupon the Law has been founded, weakening the Nation State and subjecting its people to untold abuses and judicial ambiguity.
The political class is already altering the Judicial processes to ensure the population hae little to no access to a Court of Law. The substitutes being tribunals and Community scheme, making legal representation unaffordable, altering the rules of Court to allow for the abuse of Judicial processes, the 15-20km rule which encourages collegiate influence in Magisterial Courts, transforming Courts into courts of arbitration and not a Court of Law. This is exacerbated when the lack of locus standi of a plaintiff is not taken seriously, often allowing the plaintiff to continue as a going concern on the pretext that no evidence has been heard to prove the lack of locus standi depsite the withdrawal of plaintiff. The case should be dismissed with costs awarded and the legal council penalised
(sanctioned) for bringing a matter before court without having established the locus standi of their client.
The debt collectors, lawyers and politicians love the new found status quo, viz. amended rules of Court ca. 2010 onwards.
IMAGINE A BOOT STANDING ON YOUR FACE FOREVER, ..., it is up to you!
Dali Mpofu for me is the measuring stick of gangsters. If he represents someone you can know they're a crook
Like Gareth Cliff
Sure maybe because SAs original law was based on civil law from Europe - why dont we ask the judge to write us an essay on why he thinks he has the right to wear colonial clothes, live in a colonial house & drive a colonial car - the worst thing Europeans ever did was export their inventions & education. Let them go make their own law - oh they had that, the law of the jungle where after 2,500 years they still could not copy let alone invent a wheel.
Good for me but not for you ................
Very important topic you guys are discussing. However, I think you guys did not consider the equal stance of common / customary law in the constitutional dispensation. To view customary law as a limited system in the first place defeats the developmental ethos of the bill of rights and ignores the years of development that common law has had to develop, whilst customary law was banished as savage law.
The issue as I see it is that common law has been institutionalised as the default legal system in the country to the point that any divergence from the norm is frowned upon. I mean you cannot be mad on a politician who insists on the prioritisation of indigenous law, the constitution actually demands that.
But if an African Male who lives in Mooikloof Pretoria refused to attend a criminal court appearance in the Pretoria Magistrates court or the Pretoria high court and demanded that the City establish an indigenous counsel before which he will appear and be tried customarily he would be called mad and probably convicted for contempt. Not because he doesn't have the right to do so but because that would be viewed as the kind of think that happens in the "Tribalands". You see my morning shot friends, that's where the problem is.
They must expelled that black racist judge, he must not even be allowed to be on the bar, cause he is a racist period, south-africa cannot afford a racist judge in our courts where he is supposed to be unbiased/ fair with his judgements !
This won't pass the legal societies view.. This judge not focusing on the law... This judge will lose
The non judge is a cadre
Get Malema off the JSC, he has nothing to offer other that division and strife. I have a great regard for our high courts and his influence is just lowering standards. Tsjeeek!
Maleema? Or Malema? 😂
In a country where a majority of the populous is Black, most of the populous won't mind when racism is practiced on the minority Whites. What scares me though is that this isnt a Black VS White situation, this is a Black VS Coloured,Asian,White,Indian etc situation at hand.
Exactly
What on earth is the meaning of this comment? Are you suggesting racism is only ok if practised against a certain group? Individual prejudice such as racism is fine and is ones own business but when you want to use it to gang up on a particular to further your own ends it becomes problematic.
We can clearly see that the blacks are becoming the biggest racist against minorities in South Africa....This IS A FACT.
And once the whites, Indians and coloureds are gone, it'll be a Zulu Vs Xhosa tribal thing......
@@kennethnair2654go tell that to the architects of BBEEE, the racist ANC!!
Some of the black people don't want to study so long like 5 years but just hive me the job I'll try learn what I can
What is people of colour?
People of the pantone bible. I'm #2356 how about you? 😂
So ... basically whitey's racism was a more fair racism. 😆
because the white one’s know what they’re doing, even Julius can see that!
So he insist on black judges, why? Because they're easier to intimidate + manipulate?
No because he knows they vokken onnosel😂
White judges only judge base on the colour of the person in court.
You are a black suspect and the complainant is white ,then you are definitely going to jail and for longer time than whites who committed similar crimes.
Which litigant and team was this?
So sad this racism that wont go away
Racism.... Racism must ask itself, what colour toilet paper is, after having to wipe up all the Crap in the Whole Wide World....😊😅😂.
Any action and ideology based on race ,whether positive or negative , is racism . The perceived suppression of said race is irrelevant . Two wrongs never make a right .
The only known politician who has captured Judiciary in South Africa is Ramaphosa. This video is just no different than Juju-phobia. No politician in the history of SA democracy has ever done such in your face politics than Rama.
truth be told your limited understanding would be the one to make you think that customary law is limited, the fact that your university textbooks did not extensively cover the vast subject matters in customary law does not mean that certain laws do not exist within the practice. And for your information we have figures like Queen Modjaji a perfect example to counter your point on that women are sidelined. Your narrative seem to insinuate that black people were to some extent lawless without the constitution, And I can assure you that you are incorrect!
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Because being black isn't a skill and fail safe narrative because if that was then SA wouldn't be burning and SOE run by blacks would be scoring professional standards
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Its funny that the person that wrote the book for customary law in South Africa is not even African....... but we'll just gloss right over that one. I find this podcast entertaining, this level of ignorance is not unique to South Africa, its alive in America, Australia and South America as well as India. Colonial mentality is a fickle thing. Speak on things you know about coz this Neo-con propaganda that you guys are peddling is obviously way outside your scope of comprehension. Your view points are so text book, which is typical. All your doing is naval gazing in an echo chamber.
Come up with something NEW, like really NEW. I know it's hard but try some objectivity...... think outside the confines of privilege and just maybe you'll get some real dialogue going.
Customary Law doesn't have anything to say about orphans....... geeezus !!!! Spend more time doing research, thorough research. University are part of the colonial enterprise, do you really think they'll teach you anything in-depth that is not within the scope of imperial expansion.
"Do these people"...... I guess that right there gave me an answer.
To have both of you discussing about our country is sickening.
You both are not Africans. We should start discussing that as Africans. It is clear you don't appreciate the level of our tolerance towards, maybe we should stop.
Your tolerance is like Popeye, a joke.
Go back to Zimbabwe, Mkweri-weri.
Ooh hark at her 🤣🤣
Oh thank you for tolerating 'us' for so long. I always knew it was just until things fall apart.
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YOU are sickening. Racist filth. You’re giving Verwoerd a hard-on.
4:00 You boosted Customary Law over Roman-Dutch Law in your livestream on Sunday 25 February.
9:00 Customary Law does not cover the "You Stole our Land" BS!
Sometimes you can't have it both ways!
Here you have it laid out by a Lawyer @kingsaidso7258