Thank you Professor Hutton, as a Pagan (learning) I'm thoroughly enjoying your lectures, I'm learning so much through this medium and look forward to your next offering.
Excellent lecturer and speaker, also Prof Hutton is so extensively knowledgeable, his talks are simply the best. I will be listening to this one again. Thank you for sharing such high quality videos! I really appreciate having access.
Prof Ron leaves us on tenterhooks for his future lectures! "England had everything that was needed for a modern pagan revival: a vanishing countryside which attracted love, sympathy and a tendency to re-sprititulise nature, a classical education which provided tremendous models in literature and art, a strong and self-confident nation state to protect and nurture this society, a strong economy to fund it, and a harmonious and relatively united society which enabled a counter-culture to appear, without immediately being stamped out by an insecure society and government" Shall we lay bets on Tolkein and the First World War being mentioned (not necessarily in the same breath)?
Interesting to know that Kenneth Graham was experimenting with the term "Paganism", since there's that BEAUTIFUL chapter in The Wind in the Willows where our heroes encounter the god Pan - that scene made me cry the first time I read it.
As a child The Wind in the Willows was always my favourite book. If I was ill I would read certain chapters and my most recent-read one: The Piper at the Gates of Dawn. Which, incidentally, is emblazoned over one of the entrances to The Isle of Wight Festival every year. A nod to Pink Floyd too, no doubt, but strange how folklore begets further folklore. How intrinsically generations of fellow thinkers adopt and adapt ideologies.
My surname is the name for Pagan used in the Middle Ages and the name of the largest stones in Stonehenge. It was used as a defamatory word. I am a direct descendant of people who came from Egypt.
The audio quality unfortunately makes this video unpalatable to my nervous system. The microphone is resonating in a very odd way, sounding like a continuous faint ringing as he talks. Too bad. Seems like a fascinating talk
Oh great Thor, god of strength and bravery, we call upon you in our time of need. As we face uncertainty and challenges, we seek your guidance and protection. Grant us the courage to stand tall and face our fears, and the strength to overcome any obstacle that may come our way. May your hammer Mjolnir imbue us with the power of the thunderbolt, giving us the resilience and determination to conquer even the most formidable foes. May your wisdom guide us as we navigate through difficult times, and may your presence bring us peace and comfort in moments of strife. Thor, we honor you and thank you for your unwavering support and guidance. May your blessings be upon us always. So be it!
The history is intriguing and often horrifying, but then the human race have rarely learned to be nice to each other, have we. Here's my own living definition of pagan. Recognition and observation of the natural cycle of the year. Recognition of the creative spirit in all things.
Brilliant lecture. Yet another example of the evils committed against innocent people in the name of "making the world a better place" at the beginning there.
Was interested in wicca in the 90s. Had a book written by the creator of wicca, and he was and used catholic rituals and ideas. Also to note, modern atheism is a religion created by Madeline O Hare, also catholic.
Somewhere I think Blavasky may have quoted Higgins as a reference on building her own doctrine, but she rellyied on A LOT of sources beyond him alone!! The main trouble with her was indeed not quoting properly on time all times the sources to support her ideas on arguments, and well indeed saying that a lot was given by a mysterious main source of the Mahatmas of the Trans-Himalayan White Brotherhood of the World, that seemed pretty much very ambiguously bogus on her part. (Though other parts were eeriely unknown from the properly source about it, including actually sorts of Tibetan mystical esoteric Buddhist lore that came to be fully acknowledged a whole centhury later on!)
A lot of modern Paganism got actually more lore and validation of values and believes from the Golden Dawn movement in late 19th centhury and early 20th one too, which had appeared and flourished alongside Blavastky´s theosophical movement yet a bit later and easily outshined over it after Blavatsky´s death and an inner split of the movement just a few years after she died.
Nunca se esqueçam que qualquer pensamento ou ideologia é baseado em crenças, dogmas e mitos e que são baseados em leituras, o que não quer dizer que é a verdade.
modern paganism in europe revived not thanks to natives, but thanks to Wagner composing some operas based on nordic sagas, brothers Grimm popularizing european folklore and thanks to esoteric crooks like Crowely
Crowley was many (often unkind) things, but to describe him as a crook is to mischaracterize him. He was a sincere mystic, even if you personally doubt his experiences.
@@Caseyuptobat As you wish, then thanks to geniune mystics like Crowley. At any rate, the point remains that it's romantic interest in magic, occult, folklore and paganism that brought in the revival of paganism in europe, and particularly nordic religion is very popular, with its themes and symbols and believes known and popular even among the non-believers. Meanwhile, no one heard about these "native faiths" from british colonies this guy is talking about. So how could they have significantly contributed to anything?
This was a good talk. Unfortunately, the speaker remained completely confined to the symbolic universe of Europe in general and the British in particular. And he failed to notice obvious ironies, one of which is the success of Buddhism and other Asian religions in Europe as a result of cultural exchanges and emigration from the 19th century onwards. What Europeans considered paganism was the dominant religion in Asia, but when Buddhism and Hinduism (and Islam too) spread throughout Europe and were introduced and cultivated in England, they began to compete with Christianity and redefine the concept of paganism. For the Muslim, the pagan is the Christian. A paganism to be violently eradicated through terrorism in the case of the extreme branch of Islam, something that led many of the neo-fanatic European and English Christians of the 21st century to regress to particularly violent forms of behavior typical of those attributed to pagans in the 19th century. In Brazil, the Tupi and Tupinambá Indians practiced anthropophagy, a habit immediately considered unworthy, savage, barbaric and pagan by the Portuguese colonizers. One of the first works of literature in the New World was a play written by Anchieta in Portuguese and translated into the Tupi language to teach the Indians that an evil deity they feared (Anhangá) was defeated by a low-ranking angel from God's heavenly army. Centuries later, in the mid-20th century, an important and very creative cultural movement emerged in Brazil. It calls itself the "Anthropophagic Movement", whose main proposal is to devour everything that exists in foreign cultures (especially American and European) in order to then create a specifically Brazilian version of it without disregarding what exists of particularly pagan and indigenous/African origin in our own culture. For decades, Americans and Europeans have been consuming the latest results of this movement by listening to the music of the most famous Brazilian singers, but I suppose they don't even know that they are digesting South American paganism remanufactured from their own culture. The point here is this: there is more to heaven and earth than the dreams of scholars who close themselves off from the cultural universe of Europe as if they were prisoners of Eurocentrism.
Some theosophical thoughts and later adaptation or derivative ideas from their POVs were pretty racist-types, however... Blavatsky was very much ahead on multicultural validation regardless of acknowlegding race differences on origins and characteristics, she also oftenly quoted that the evolutionary path for improval might happen to ALL people regardless of their origin and that each one had values and weaknesses fitted for that or that other issues, yet nothing was all fixated, neither she was pushing over the social engineering issue that was developed later on after a missguidance of her ideas with happened to be LESS RACIST than the average people she met on then!! Also it´s hard to properly address racism back then on the setting of society values validated back then compared with later contemporary trends where those have changed A LOT, so it´s a kinda forcing an historical revisionism on current trends than on the values back then on what was prized or spurned too, and well most of people were plainly racists as average by default, and even then Blavatsky WASN´T MUCH as the average people about it, so... it´s a very big easy missjudgement about her. (Pretty much the same which had happened to Tolkien as well, eventhough over time he lived longer enough to be even more noticeable his standard views as racist-aproaching regardless on how much Tolkien fans wanted to dismiss it; Lovecraft fans in other hand had never ever dismissed the over-the-top racism of his author, yet... that was kinda something which helped to to a lot of the particular literary style on his work of cosmic horror.)
Blavatsky attempted to merge all ideas into one common background henceforth that´s why Paganism was just only one alone part of the complex mixture of ideas on the theosophical movement, as a sort of forerunner on comparative anthropological philosophy on religions and mythologies or folkclore in the world, and indeed Eastern esoteric mysticism - specially from India which actually fascinated as a whole the Victorian society back then A LOT - was the core center of his fully fleshed out doctrine on The Secret Doctrine (Isis Unveiled rellyied more on an even paired issue of both Western and Eastern esothericism but that was an earlier development too of theosophical thought.)
It isn´t the "Cosmic" Doctrine but The Secret Doctrine, the magnum-opus of Blavatsky´s theosophical movement! (The first book of the set of two - later three a bit while after her demise - it´s indeed about Comogenesis and their evolution, but the whole story is named differently!)
Paganisn began Genesis 3:15; The Adversary's alternative construct against The Sovereign Creator of the Universe. It pander's to humanity's desires. The consequences of mankind's deliberate rebellion. All the myths and legends stem from historic memory. John 17-1-26. Ezekiel 38:23. Revelation 12:7-12. John 18:36-38. Christendom is counterfeit. The Bible's false friend.
Fantastic!!! ..The Reverend Dr Ronnie Hutton is my favourite lecturer from the Gresham Crew 🤙😊
My fav lecturer - full stop!! 😍
My fav full stop!!!! 😍
Thank you Professor Hutton, as a Pagan (learning) I'm thoroughly enjoying your lectures, I'm learning so much through this medium and look forward to your next offering.
Excellent lecturer and speaker, also Prof Hutton is so extensively knowledgeable, his talks are simply the best. I will be listening to this one again. Thank you for sharing such high quality videos! I really appreciate having access.
I could listen to Hutton all day long… and sometimes I do! Great to have these accessible and free lectures, many thanks!
I can't wait for his next lecture. Professor Hutton, your the best!
as brilliant as usual, thank you for the talk!
Fascinating and entrancing, as usual, thank you Dr Hutton and Gresham College
Always a fascinating pleasure to listen to and learn from, Ronald Hutton. Thank you Gresham College.
Prof Ron leaves us on tenterhooks for his future lectures!
"England had everything that was needed for a modern pagan revival: a vanishing countryside which attracted love, sympathy and a tendency to re-sprititulise nature, a classical education which provided tremendous models in literature and art, a strong and self-confident nation state to protect and nurture this society, a strong economy to fund it, and a harmonious and relatively united society which enabled a counter-culture to appear, without immediately being stamped out by an insecure society and government"
Shall we lay bets on Tolkein and the First World War being mentioned (not necessarily in the same breath)?
Fascinating and entertaining, as always.
I love Prof Hutton's lectures
Love Prof Hutton ❤
That was lovely
Absolutely brilliant thank you Ronnie
Interesting to know that Kenneth Graham was experimenting with the term "Paganism", since there's that BEAUTIFUL chapter in The Wind in the Willows where our heroes encounter the god Pan - that scene made me cry the first time I read it.
As a child The Wind in the Willows was always my favourite book. If I was ill I would read certain chapters and my most recent-read one: The Piper at the Gates of Dawn. Which, incidentally, is emblazoned over one of the entrances to The Isle of Wight Festival every year. A nod to Pink Floyd too, no doubt, but strange how folklore begets further folklore. How intrinsically generations of fellow thinkers adopt and adapt ideologies.
Excellent!!
Always love listening to Dr. H... and now I have a new way of talking about the "one true Grod" 😁
Amazing lecture...absolutely 10 out of 10,Thank You 🙏
What a story-teller he is. His ectures are wonderful.
My surname is the name for Pagan used in the Middle Ages and the name of the largest stones in Stonehenge. It was used as a defamatory word. I am a direct descendant of people who came from Egypt.
amazing dude
The audio quality unfortunately makes this video unpalatable to my nervous system. The microphone is resonating in a very odd way, sounding like a continuous faint ringing as he talks. Too bad. Seems like a fascinating talk
During my days reading law at Teddy, I would see the good professor about town. We were both much younger then. I remember it as if it were yesterday.
😍
This guy's like my favourite human being. Lol
Same!
Ditto!!!!!!😀
Who is your favourite human being then, if Dr. Hutton is like them?
Lord forgive me, I remember reading _Coral Island_ (as a classic boys' book) in the 1950s. Rider Haggard was pretty bad too.
I, too, read Coral Island as a child in the 1970s. Can't remember a thing about it, though. I started to read Haggard last year and love it.
Very interesting 🙂
blessed be
Oh great Thor, god of strength and bravery, we call upon you in our time of need. As we face uncertainty and challenges, we seek your guidance and protection.
Grant us the courage to stand tall and face our fears, and the strength to overcome any obstacle that may come our way. May your hammer Mjolnir imbue us with the power of the thunderbolt, giving us the resilience and determination to conquer even the most formidable foes.
May your wisdom guide us as we navigate through difficult times, and may your presence bring us peace and comfort in moments of strife. Thor, we honor you and thank you for your unwavering support and guidance. May your blessings be upon us always. So be it!
41:20 THANK YOU SIR ❤
The history is intriguing and often horrifying, but then the human race have rarely learned to be nice to each other, have we. Here's my own living definition of pagan. Recognition and observation of the natural cycle of the year. Recognition of the creative spirit in all things.
I agree with you. I don't believe that the way must be nasty. We can make of it what we want, keeping some and leaving the rest.
Are you a Christian ?
All hail Knight's Gród in Byczyn! 15:11
Brilliant lecture. Yet another example of the evils committed against innocent people in the name of "making the world a better place" at the beginning there.
I would listen to him give a lecture about ANYTHING
Was interested in wicca in the 90s. Had a book written by the creator of wicca, and he was and used catholic rituals and ideas. Also to note, modern atheism is a religion created by Madeline O Hare, also catholic.
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Woohoo!
A great lecture. Could anyone tell me from which book of H.J. Massingham's the professor was quoting from?
Good book is " Pagan Imperialism " by Evola.
Excellent~ Thank you~
14:55 - THE ONE TRUE GROD!
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People will always try to justify their excesses in such terms as civilizing the native, even if the natives are obviously civilized already.
Somewhere I think Blavasky may have quoted Higgins as a reference on building her own doctrine, but she rellyied on A LOT of sources beyond him alone!! The main trouble with her was indeed not quoting properly on time all times the sources to support her ideas on arguments, and well indeed saying that a lot was given by a mysterious main source of the Mahatmas of the Trans-Himalayan White Brotherhood of the World, that seemed pretty much very ambiguously bogus on her part. (Though other parts were eeriely unknown from the properly source about it, including actually sorts of Tibetan mystical esoteric Buddhist lore that came to be fully acknowledged a whole centhury later on!)
A lot of modern Paganism got actually more lore and validation of values and believes from the Golden Dawn movement in late 19th centhury and early 20th one too, which had appeared and flourished alongside Blavastky´s theosophical movement yet a bit later and easily outshined over it after Blavatsky´s death and an inner split of the movement just a few years after she died.
Nunca se esqueçam que qualquer pensamento ou ideologia é baseado em crenças, dogmas e mitos e que são baseados em leituras, o que não quer dizer que é a verdade.
modern paganism in europe revived not thanks to natives, but thanks to Wagner composing some operas based on nordic sagas, brothers Grimm popularizing european folklore and thanks to esoteric crooks like Crowely
Crowley was many (often unkind) things, but to describe him as a crook is to mischaracterize him. He was a sincere mystic, even if you personally doubt his experiences.
@@Caseyuptobat As you wish, then thanks to geniune mystics like Crowley.
At any rate, the point remains that it's romantic interest in magic, occult, folklore and paganism that brought in the revival of paganism in europe, and particularly nordic religion is very popular, with its themes and symbols and believes known and popular even among the non-believers.
Meanwhile, no one heard about these "native faiths" from british colonies this guy is talking about. So how could they have significantly contributed to anything?
It was invented, like many things, in the mid Victorian era.
On a humorous note. Dr ronnie looks suspiciously like Robert Greene in a british disguise.
This was a good talk. Unfortunately, the speaker remained completely confined to the symbolic universe of Europe in general and the British in particular. And he failed to notice obvious ironies, one of which is the success of Buddhism and other Asian religions in Europe as a result of cultural exchanges and emigration from the 19th century onwards. What Europeans considered paganism was the dominant religion in Asia, but when Buddhism and Hinduism (and Islam too) spread throughout Europe and were introduced and cultivated in England, they began to compete with Christianity and redefine the concept of paganism. For the Muslim, the pagan is the Christian. A paganism to be violently eradicated through terrorism in the case of the extreme branch of Islam, something that led many of the neo-fanatic European and English Christians of the 21st century to regress to particularly violent forms of behavior typical of those attributed to pagans in the 19th century.
In Brazil, the Tupi and Tupinambá Indians practiced anthropophagy, a habit immediately considered unworthy, savage, barbaric and pagan by the Portuguese colonizers. One of the first works of literature in the New World was a play written by Anchieta in Portuguese and translated into the Tupi language to teach the Indians that an evil deity they feared (Anhangá) was defeated by a low-ranking angel from God's heavenly army. Centuries later, in the mid-20th century, an important and very creative cultural movement emerged in Brazil. It calls itself the "Anthropophagic Movement", whose main proposal is to devour everything that exists in foreign cultures (especially American and European) in order to then create a specifically Brazilian version of it without disregarding what exists of particularly pagan and indigenous/African origin in our own culture. For decades, Americans and Europeans have been consuming the latest results of this movement by listening to the music of the most famous Brazilian singers, but I suppose they don't even know that they are digesting South American paganism remanufactured from their own culture.
The point here is this: there is more to heaven and earth than the dreams of scholars who close themselves off from the cultural universe of Europe as if they were prisoners of Eurocentrism.
Some theosophical thoughts and later adaptation or derivative ideas from their POVs were pretty racist-types, however... Blavatsky was very much ahead on multicultural validation regardless of acknowlegding race differences on origins and characteristics, she also oftenly quoted that the evolutionary path for improval might happen to ALL people regardless of their origin and that each one had values and weaknesses fitted for that or that other issues, yet nothing was all fixated, neither she was pushing over the social engineering issue that was developed later on after a missguidance of her ideas with happened to be LESS RACIST than the average people she met on then!!
Also it´s hard to properly address racism back then on the setting of society values validated back then compared with later contemporary trends where those have changed A LOT, so it´s a kinda forcing an historical revisionism on current trends than on the values back then on what was prized or spurned too, and well most of people were plainly racists as average by default, and even then Blavatsky WASN´T MUCH as the average people about it, so... it´s a very big easy missjudgement about her. (Pretty much the same which had happened to Tolkien as well, eventhough over time he lived longer enough to be even more noticeable his standard views as racist-aproaching regardless on how much Tolkien fans wanted to dismiss it; Lovecraft fans in other hand had never ever dismissed the over-the-top racism of his author, yet... that was kinda something which helped to to a lot of the particular literary style on his work of cosmic horror.)
Blavatsky attempted to merge all ideas into one common background henceforth that´s why Paganism was just only one alone part of the complex mixture of ideas on the theosophical movement, as a sort of forerunner on comparative anthropological philosophy on religions and mythologies or folkclore in the world, and indeed Eastern esoteric mysticism - specially from India which actually fascinated as a whole the Victorian society back then A LOT - was the core center of his fully fleshed out doctrine on The Secret Doctrine (Isis Unveiled rellyied more on an even paired issue of both Western and Eastern esothericism but that was an earlier development too of theosophical thought.)
It isn´t the "Cosmic" Doctrine but The Secret Doctrine, the magnum-opus of Blavatsky´s theosophical movement! (The first book of the set of two - later three a bit while after her demise - it´s indeed about Comogenesis and their evolution, but the whole story is named differently!)
37:50 "shallow", or, as serious researchers of Roman history call them "romaboos". 😆
Paganisn began Genesis 3:15; The Adversary's alternative construct against The Sovereign Creator of the Universe. It pander's to humanity's desires. The consequences of mankind's deliberate rebellion. All the myths and legends stem from historic memory. John 17-1-26. Ezekiel 38:23. Revelation 12:7-12. John 18:36-38. Christendom is counterfeit. The Bible's false friend.
There was no such thing as a religion called Paganism. "Paganism" isn't anything. "Pagan" simply means a religion other than your own.