How To Sharpen A Chisel With A $12 Jig
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Wranglerstar up to snuff Mr wranglerstar from older times for snuff (ground tobacco) that you snorted up to snuff was a term for getting high quality tobacco I noticed you said up to stuff instead not trying to bring you down by any means just spreading my useless knowledge
Thanks for your time and effort here, much appreciated.
While searching for various types of these guides I ran across this site that has several different ones. While they are a bit more than $12, they are not outrageously priced either. They also look good, which is always a consideration right? :)
www.fine-tools.com/richardkellhoningguide.html
Wranglerstar
Great video I definitely need to get one of these for my shop I have set of chisels that could use some sharpening!!!
Thanks
I noticed that too, Kyle, and it 'bothered' me. Your comment is a gentle and polite correction-well done!
Can you put a link for your sharpening stones up? please and thank you. Keep up the great informative videos
I'm one of those retired guys with lots of time on my hands. I also have one of these guides and like it a lot. I don't need to prove that I can do it better without help at this point in my life. Thanks for the tips on making it work even better.
A trick I was taught to keep your file from loading up during use is to use common
playground chalk. Rub this chalk into the file grooves or teeth before use. You will find that
the metal being worked will not load up your file as easily. It also makes cleaning your file
with the file card much more efficient as well.
Good idea
I truly enjoy your humor Cody! 'I can't have a metric ruler lying around, you guys might see it.' LOL
Cody I already had this jig but could not get it to work. Watched your video, filed it down and today I sharpened my chisels for the first time then fitted a door, cut the hinges etc for the first time. As you say ' it gave me the fizz' using properly sharpened chisels. I am now going to try timber framing a log store. A big thank you.
I have had mine for 20 years and until I watched this video it just sat in my toolbox. I did everything you did and what an amazing result. Sharp and sharper is the result. I even brought back to life an old chisel I screwed up years ago. Thank you
I've noticed while working with soft woods like pine having a softer angle around 20 degrees resulted in less tearout and a cleaner cut as opposed to most of the chisels I have at sharpened to around 25-30 degree. I've dedicated a few chisels in my shop just for softer woods.
Works perfect for me now for over 30 years! For ease of use start with 25 degree setting with course stone and initial setting. Then change to 30 degree setting for final sharpening at finer grit of the cutting edge. The last setting needs to be only honed for a width of 1/16", making this fast work!!!
My father was a tool and die maker and started me sharpening knives at an age of only 12. Now at 64 I appreciate it more than ever! I wish I had his skill set as he was really one of a kind, I have a few memories of his where he showed his amazing skill and magic at work and home. Thanks for having me remember.
Paul Sellers makes free hand sharpening look so easy. I try free hand but often end up needing to use a jig like this.
Art Heen someday, I hope to have that much experience.
@@joeleonetti8976 I practiced freehand every day
for 30 minutes a week paying close attention to what I was doing and the results make me happy :D
I just found this jig in the melal scrap bin at the local tip, wasn't sure what it was so did a quick search, my grandfather's old chisels are finally going to be sharp again. Really helpful video thanks
13:07 oh god i just love moments like this Cody. It always makes me laugh :D
I agree with you nice video. Some people are just stuck on the idea that buying the most expensive tool makes you a better woodworker. In my younger days as a contractor I always spent way too much on tools, and now I buy middle of the road tools and if they need adjustments no big deal and I do not see any decline in the quality of work I produce.
I love that you went to all that trouble to get a metric measurement, when the combination square you used in the video had metric measurement visible in the clip. Good video though. Love your work.
It's not good, I don't understand the metric system anyway,
It's vastly simpler and easier to use than Imperial.
If you want to get into which system's origin makes more sense, the truth is that any system of measurement you can think of is arbitrary by definition. Once you get beyond the atomic level the world doesn't follow any natural system of measurement, so humans have to make up a standard and work from there.
The point people are making is that while both are arbitrary, using the metric system is easier because it is base 10. Think of this scenario: You want to make a saw holder like the one in Cody's shop, and you need to saw the slots equal distance from each other. That is distance works out to be 2 9/16" or about 6.5 centimeters over a 4 foot board (122 cm). With imperial you would mark out 2 9/16, 5 4/16, 7 13/16, 10 6/16 and so on until 48', making sure that you aren't missing a fraction along the way. With metric you take a tape measure and mark 6.5, 13, 19.5, 26, 32.5 and every 6.5 cm after until 122 cm.
Seriously, folks, it’s high time we made the transition. People opposed to metrication are just being de‑feet‑ists.
That is positively hilarious Aaron Crump :)
I don't know if you read old posts but "Thank you." I purchased one of those honing guides over thirty years ago. I lived in the city but knew that one day I'd be taking up woodworking as a hobby when I got myself a house and a shed. Now thirty years later I've done that. However buying up equipment when it was small and cheap has a downside. I lost the packaging it came with , so when I used the blasted thing it didn't sharpen my chisels. It took your site to show this fool that the instructions for use are on the side. I now have chisels so sharp I could perform surgery with them. Once agin a Big Thanks and keep up the vids. I thoroughly enjoy this site.
Load your file up with chalk before you start so the aluminum and paint don't gum it up.
I agree 100 percent with your logic!! I too was hand sharpening and able to get it done, but just not as consistent as I wanted. I bought one of these just the other day and it most certainly is a welcome tool that makes sense! Thank you for your honesty! Some of us are willing to pay less for something and put a little elbow grease in it to make it completely serviceable. Again thank you for your honesty I have always enjoyed your videos because of this, even if it's not something I agree with, at least I know your giving your honest opinion and that's hard to find these days especially on RUclips! Keep up the good work!
HAHA! I got a good laugh out your I burnt that bridge talking so much trash about metric comment! Too funny!
No human can achieve the consistency of a honing guide no matter how experienced they might be. Unless perhaps they have a robotic arm such as Luke Skywalker. Invaluable tool for the kit, and a very informative video on some great modifications. Thank you sir.
Your gauge length for a given angle is going to vary based on the blade thickness. The jig indexes to the bevel side of the blade, so the protruding length of a 3/8" thick framing chisel at 30º is going to be longer than the protrusion of an 1/8" thick plane blade at the same angle. If you want the exact angle, your best bet is to use your protractor to set the angle and then measure the protrusion for each different thickness of blade.
Stop blinding me with science,
This is only true for the wide jaws, since the narrow jaws index to the flat side of the blade.
Lol. You'll see it if you set up the big framing chisel with the gauge and then measure the angle, and the repeat the procedure with a plane blade. It probably wouldn't be enough for most people to really notice between two slightly different plane blade thickness, hence the reference on the casting.
Yes I agree, once the angle is determined on each tool everything will be good,
The thing is the exact angle is meaningless. It could be 28 or 32, it matters not. The point is the tool gets sharpened with that same angle every time.
I just got a honing guide today. Could not get my chisel to fit in the slots. So glad I found your video. 👍🏻
For 1/32 of an inch I'd just call that 2" and call it a day lol
31/32, yeah, I was thinking the same thing. lol...
Yup, me too.
I dunno you guys... with his 1.5 inches for 30 degrees he's already made it to 30.08 degrees, and then if he stretches his 1 31/32 to 2 inches... it puts him to 25.4 degrees!! You guys are animals!!
I actually only did this just to see how much of a difference a little wiggle room in the measuring actually affected the angles... I'm happy about it
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@@jonesyak Yep - the repeatability is far more important than the precision. 25.4 degrees EVERY TIME is better 25.0 degrees most of the time.
Mr W
Very very informative video, this is the sort of tuition that us non master carpenters need, with this knowledge we can all get sharp chisels and planer blades.
KEEP THEM COMING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doug.
Hi, metric system is easy for us Europeans who were born with two thumbs and eight fingers and learned to count using multiples of ten. It was much the same for the Brits who had two thumbs and ten fingers and used the twelve digit system they called Imperial!
you want to look up pounds shilling and pence
Just asked the Google exactly what this tool was...as usual Cody not only explains it super well but improves the tool.....love this channel!
If you chalk your file it will clean better.
Interesting. Never heard of that. Any good tips?
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now thats a tool worth its weight in gold. nothing more satisfying than a sharp chisel in fresh wood and nothing more frustrating than a dull one, except sharpening.
Finally no more clickbaiting titles. Now I can know what I'm going to watch!
I have the same guide and it is about 15 years old and has the same defects. I've tried honing by hand and I don't do enough of it to get a consistent chisel point. Thanks for showing how to improve this tool.
Cody for 50mm you can use 2 inches and be done with it. BTW you shouldn't talk that much trash on the metric system, the metric system is just a tool as anything else and you can use it when you need it and not use it when you don't, it's as easy as that! Keep up the good work, love your videos! ;-)
hernanc you have not watched his videos much. He is being sarcastic about metric. I would wager if the US went metric today he would be happy. He puts out videos fir an audience primarily US. We are stuck with our idiotic measuring system so he uses that.
hernanc standard!!!!! it's all I know! I can estimate with it real well. and as a blacksmith, guessing is helpful.
I don't know about using 2 inches instead of 50mm... The difference is approx the thickness of 7 pieces of beer can material, or 27 metric cigarette papers or 32 imperial cigarette papers ;)
(metric papers are 0.03mm and imperial are 0.001" haha)
I'd recommend 51mm ;-]
hernanc or how about using 50mm lol
Thanks Cody. The tips will allow us to greatly improve a "cheap" tool and make it a truly valuable one. Best to the family, Philia
Metric and away we go!
Popcorn anyone?
Got one of these a month ago and got great results. You should put one in the toolbox! Make a great addition.
Nice having you back Cody, keep em' coming you're the best ;)
I've had this item for 15 years. I did struggle getting the plane irons and chisels sharp, but got through it. Thanks for the refinement tip. I'll apply tip next time I use it.
Put a block or use a spacer to set it to 27 degrees! CUSTOM ;-)
I've found these guides to work fantastically and quickly.
Come on Cody, be like NASA - come to the METRIC side!
Look at 17:08 more closely. He literally uses the metric side. ;)
Didn’t nasa use metric then crash a rover on mars
@@darkmagician5428 That was a contractor not using the standard NASA set by contract.
And what size ratchets do you use? Dividing everything by hundreds makes all the sense though. That's why we do that with time, circles,... oh wait.
Thank you for this. The degree set blocks put it over the top. You are the best when it comes to things like this.
I saw that Nissan add, you've been researching foreign trucks haven't you :)
I was going through some old tools and stumbled across this tool and googled it , which I then found your video . Now I can sharpen my dull old chisels . Cheers
Wranglerstar can you show us the proper way to sharpen back drill bits ??
Dozens of YT videos on this already.
And yet he still asked. You clearly are missing the point that Wranglerstar is entertaining and we value his insight. If we all wanted to know how to do the stuff Wranglerstar has made videos on we'd just go out and do nothing but read books or watch purely instructional, boring videos.
Cody: p. propose some jig for drill bits and add a video on how you are using it (especially for smaller bits under fi 5mm).
AvE has some videos dealing with this topic. Well, bits of information scattered among several videos. Watch his teardown of a drill doctor to get a good idea of how to use an angle grinder to sharpen chisel tip bits.
Noah someone knows how to keep their dick in a vise.
I have owned a chisel sharpening guide for over 30 years but only after watching this video have I understood how to use it - thx
I think it's worth noting that exactly 25 degrees is less important than exactly the same every time.
Excellent advice. I have one of those guides, but had trouble using it because iron and chisel were not sitting properly. Can't wait to get home and try your fix.... Thank you.
I think you're going to get different angles because you're not taking into account the thickness of the blades. The angle is determined by the distance from the end of the guide to the start of contact with the stone, not the far pointy end.
You will get consistency with a given tool, using your method, but not the exact angle.
Exact angle doesn't matter. At best it will be a couple degrees off, which is close enough. As you say, the key is consistency not only every time you sharpen, but with every stroke.
Technically you are correct, but given the thickness of the chisel blade it doesn't seem to make any real difference between all the sizes I use. I have used on for 40 years and it is a great tool. Out of curiosity the next time I use it, I am going to measure the resulting angles with my angle tester to see if it has changed over time and the difference I get between my different sized chisels. The digital angle measure is quite accurate and it will be interesting to see the results.
Mike Warot i dont understand you logic??? wouldn't the angle be the same regardless of blade thickness. you are taking measurements from the long side of the tool to be sharpened making a triangle in the process. the only way I can think of to change the angle of that triangle is to langthen (or shorten) one of the sides. would you please explain why the thickness of the tool would matter?
Art Heen thank you! Brain wasn't grasping that at first. So does that mean you should measure from the rear of the bevel to the jig for proper angle? Seems like using an angle finder to set position would be easier and probably closer to exact than using length of the blade???
If you use a jig Why not just set the chisel on the original bevel and adjust the jig then tighten. It wont matter what the blade size or angle or length....
That jig would be a really good help to someone like me who just wouldn't feel confident that I would keep it level. I would probably save up and get the more expensive one I didn't have to machine... just because I know I probably wouldn't get it done, or get it done right.
I think this makes using and sharpening chissels more accessible to people like me who would like to try things but have a lot of other things going on in life.
Finally!!!! An easy way to sharpen my chisels!
Great video. I was taught to sharpen on the up stroke and lift the chisel slightly off the stone and draw it back and then sharpen on the up stroke and so on. The theory being and drawing the chisel backward will undo the sharpening of the up stroke.
You don't trust the machinery on the guide, but you do trust the metric calculation of the distance that determined the angle of the guide?!?
Tokke van Leeuwen
Plus he modified the guide. Are the values still valid?
Is this really important with that results? ^^
I like your comments about the need to use this jig as bit of a shortcut to getting your blades sharpened. Not everyone can whip it out by hand like some of the old pros that can be seen on the web. Some day maybe....
See the benefit of metric yet? Bahahaha....
Metric is dumb,
i keep one imperial ruler around because sometimes you just need it to make a job quicker
In fact when we are in the machine shop using 1000 thou per inch, it is a modified "metric" system we are using, i.e. multiples of ten.
When you are working with 1/32 of an inch imperial starts to lose its "easy of use" argument.
It's a running joke. Perhaps you are too dull for this channel.
Great Job Cody ! I really can't understand the need some folks have for being so negative on almost every subject. What joy do these folks get out of taking shots at you. You are doing magnificent work for so many viewers. There is a legion of loyal viewers that really enjoy your efforts & appreciate your heart felt & in depth comments. Keep up the superb work you continue to provide. Say hi to Mrs. W and your son has a bright future with parent such as you two to guide and lead him.
So you're using a rule that probably costs three times more than the honing guide in order to save a 32th. As an engineer in the USA, I share your disdain for the metric system. But if you are creating a repeatable system, just call it 2in. No engineer worth their stamp would waste their time with this.
In the carpenter world we call this 2 inches lite.
In the carpenter world I was in we called 1/32” short dead on, of course most of my experience was in metal studs and drywall so within a 1/4” was good ‘nuff
One of your best educational videos, a little jig which nearly everybody can afford, allows consistent sharpening and ability to get you back to work in short time.
Metric is better
From a Canadian, its ok you can always switch over to the "dark side" or just use both.....we do. As always I am keeping you and your family in my prayers. Thank you for the fantastic content and great lesions.
*IF AMERICA WASENT SO BACKWARDS IT WOULD BE IN THE METRIC SYSTEM OR EVEN HAVE TAPE MEASURES WITH BOTH.*
I live in a metric country and appreciate measuring devices with both imperial and metric. No sense in limiting yourself right?
*EXACTLY I'M THE SAME KNOW BOTH AMERICA NEEDS TO PICK UP THERE GAME A RUclipsR IN A COUNTRY THAT'S METRIC WILL GIVE BOTH EXAMPLES WHEN MEASURING AN AMERICAN RUclipsR WILL GIVE NON METRIC YET THEY HAVE SUBS FROM METRIC COUNTRIES EVEN THO I KNOW BOTH ITS AS RUDE AS FUCK THEY NEED TO LEARN THIS IS ONE REASON AMERICA HAS THE DUMB REPUTATION*
*OMG YOU ARE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS!!!!!!*
Well said!
@Thomas Russell - the switch failed because the intro was all wrong. In grade school they just gave use math to figure it out, no comparative things like two-sided rulers, or any other visual or tactile aid to comprehension. It's almost like the intro was deliberately sabotaged. Now we have a normal mish-mash. Plenty of units are metric, where manufacturers could pull one over, they switched to metric. Like beverages. used to be a fifth of a gallon for booze, now it's .75 liters - a smaller amount but same price, as just one example. Bottled soda pop is metric, fountain in ounces. automobile fasteners are (mostly) metric now, but heavy vehicles (trucks, busses) are still (mostly) SAE.. etc. etc.
If you have trouble sleeping listen to his videos it will work, it always works for me.
Nice video I like your efforts ,Thank you
for providing the best knowledge about
sharpening the blades, I am not a professional woodworker but I am very fond of woodworking, Thank you for this wonderful video
Thanks for showing me how to get something good and make it better. It has the ring of frugality and thoughtfulness we tend to ignore nowadays.
I tell you the truth brother, you touched on so many valid points in this video. Consistency and performance are key, you apparently had both by your hand method. I presume that those that say you don't need a too! to help you get an edge are leaning a bit too heavily into pride. Keep up the great family friendly content. THANK YOU!!!
Bought one of these cheap ones years ago and only tried it once. Just tried it on my roughest chisel with great results! Very helpful, thanks!
The idea of mounting the machinist vise on a removable wooden frame in the woodworking vise is excellent. I did that when I first saw it on the channel some time back. It has been invaluable and I use it all the time.
Thank you for putting together this series. This has been great for someone like me who wants to get into some woodworking. Thanks for sharing your life learnings, philosophies and faith.
Well it's 3 years since you did this video, I am seeing it for the first time, and it is just excellent. Very informative. Great job. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
Amazing little hack here for this sharpening jig! I was experiencing a problem sharpening my chisels with this cheap jig, but after I make these mods to my jig. I am sure this will fix the problem! Thanks for sharing this video!!
Thank you for going the distance by explaining the details and frequently overlooked nuances of this process. Thank you for having the ability to keep the tutorial moving forward.
I like the way you show a little bit of work can go a long way.
This is a great idea. I actually purchased a similar guide a year ago, but it has been collecting dust because of the reasons this fix addresses. I can't wait to go clean up the guide and try again!
Cody thank you for the pointers I have learned so much this is what I needed to help with me sharpening I have had a rough go at sharpening I get one chisel pretty good and the next one is a mess. So tomorrow into the shop fix my guide and make my blocks and off to the races I go. Thanks God bless Pete USMC
Nice jig,...I can see it very beneficial to those of us who are not so experienced in sharpening,.... Thanks for a great review.
Thanks for the tips on how to maintain a sharp edge on chisels. Thanks for the video.
I really enjoyed the video Cody. Prudent with my money is my theme from now on and this video allows just that. Quality, yes. Your videos always bring Quality to oue lives I think, so another GREAT VIDEO Cody of Wranglerstar. A man of integrity folks !! Thanks for the great videos Cody. I really enjoy every one you make. Always get to watch a touch of Quality and I get the Quantity by applying what you teach. This is such a great channel on RUclips. I am so blessed to watch all of your video creations that take so much work and if you EVER go somewhere else I will follow along... no matter the cost or effort !!!!!!!!!!!
Thank You and God Bless.
$12 dollar aid to having sharp wood tools, a great idea for us common guys. I struggle to get exact edges in my small home shop, and this device will get me working better for pennies! Thanks for the info, handy as always!
This helped a ton with a newbie learning to sharpen a chisel.
Perfect timing as I just bought one of those last week. The video was very well done. Thanks!
Thanks Cody! For a guy like me that doesn't use woodworking tools every day this is very helpful.
Hand is the way to go generally speaking, but these honing guides and the like are really great for reestablishing/setting bevels especially
As a sixty year old wood worker, I personally like mine at 26.5 degrees. But whatever you prefer, it is certainly important to maintain that angle consistently. A simple block of wood cut at whatever angle you like, is my personal way of doing it. The only thing wrong with store bought jigs, is when you need them, they never seem to be where you put them last. lol
Fantastic instruction. I was fixing to pull the trigger on one of these but see quite a few bad reviews about quality etc. You make things quite clear. BTW ...I would have ignorantly filed the convex on the one side totally flat, thinking it was a defect. The three point explanation makes sense. Thanks again. ...I will hit the Amazon link now :)
well done. new to hand planes and like you i dont have time to learn hand sharpening so i purchased the same jig. read the instructions but your adjustments make it look much simpler. im ready to move forward.. thanks
Awesome video Cody!!.... Consider putting this in the Common Mans Tool Kit.... I know someone with no experience with chisels like my self would find that to be a priceless gem!
You really take pride in your work, I like that.
for someone that is starting out it is a great aide for a consistent edge.
looks like an extremely useful tool. with that, a plate of glass or a tile, and some wet and dry sandpaper, anyone should be able to get a very sharp edge on their chisels or plane irons.
Big fan of this this guide. Been using it for about a year now.
I have had one in my tool crib for years... no idea what it was.... Now I have sharper chisels thanks to you!
Angle guide blocks = another great idea i should've thought of years ago to help with consistency. Guh.
Thanks for dragging me with you down the path of knowledge!
I had no idea there was such a device. Brilliant way to sharpen a chisel at the desired angle.
Cody, thanks for putting this video up. I actually saw the same thing on the FineWoodworking channel several months ago but it bears repeating. I purchased one of these jigs and made the recommended modifications to it and it works very well. However, the chisels that I have (cheap Harbor Freight ones that I bought before I saw your recommendation for the Irwin/Marples) have a very wide flat on the sides that in no way will fit the narrow V groove in the jig. In fact, the 1/4" chisel basically has a square cross section. Anyway, I had to hog out quite a lot of material in order to use the jig with these chisels but it does the job now.
I have that exact guide (only recently purchased) I like the results I gave been able to get with it and your hints will save me some very fiddly set up time in the future. little jig for the measurement set up will make it much easier to use and therefore used more often. My chisels and I thank you for sharing.
When you first made the block for the stones I thought to myself the water will distort the wood over time eventually and I noticed the wobble just before you said something lol...Then I had another thought what if you re-cut the block but did it out of a piece of that white plastic you have then it would last 100 years!!...And I want to say what a score that plastic was my dad had a small score of it when I was younger and nothing has ever made a better fish tank top good stuff!!! Keep up the good vids man been watching you forever maybe someday we can have a conversation in person man I would love to pick your brain as my dad would say. R I P dad man I miss ya.......Your vids make me think of times making things with him thank you for that.
Even though this video is a couple of years old now, it is still relevant. I just bought one and your explanation/demonstration was/is great. Thank you.
I really enjoy the longer videos thanks Cody
I learned in one of my university courses about how aluminum tends to load files. If you rub the file with chalk before using it on the aluminum, it will not load. It should help keep your files in good shape since they're no longer made.
An advantage of that sharpening guide that you may have not discovered yet is that the center wheel allows you to tilt the plane iron so that you can get a slightly curved edge rather than a perfectly straight one.
i have the same exact jig you used in this video. when i tried to set it up on a smaller chisel i found it to be extremely frustrating. i followed all your tips and now my jig is easy to set up. great video and thank you very much.
I guess I got lucky I bought two Nichols files from my local hardware store two weeks ago.
It is nice to see that you use a file correctly, I just saw a another video where a guy effectively did what you did with removing the high spots.
However he used the file like it was a hand saw. I had to stop watching the video it was too painful to watch,and thought if he does not know how to use a simple file what else is he trying to teach me that is incorrect?
Thank you for producing this video I bought a set of chisels and a honing guild like yours after a little fine tuning with a file and sharpening a few of the chisels I am pleased with the edge on the chisels now. Your video showed me how to set up the projection. That information was not included with the guide.
This is the best tutorial on how to use this guide 👍👍👍
Just used my guide today without seeing your video. After viewing I modified my 30 year old guide (made in Japan) per your instructions in the video. Thank you very much.