BattleFest TV Series | Ep 8 | Fikshun vs CJ Rey REACTION !!!
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First of all I want to thank the comment section for Holding me down! Now @ metal...Huh? 😂 you know you my boi but no no no. You said my movement wasn’t clear & I was just beat killing? Since when did “Musicality” become only beat killing? Jumping from one thing to the next? Since when did showing your “Range in movement” change to jumping between ideas? You said it yourself that my flow was great & that’s because I wasn’t “jumping around” lol my style is a lot more then just waves the whole time, or glides the whole time, or dime stops the whole time & you know that lol so by the way you explained it you prefer the dancers with less versatility, less body control & movement range, but has a great story behind his round (which is a set) 👌🏽 in a battle it’s supposed to be about the Dancing & you of all ppl know that & the dancing involves all of those aspects & the level at which you show all of those skills...but I mean to each his own. You still my boy but we gone have to agree to disagree on this one
Haha sal good bro. Versatility, body control, all that is major dog and if the person has enough vocab to demonstrate it while implementing variations in rhythm then that aligns exactly with my perspective. You know that's how I train but it's not even about any of that. So movement first, the range in motion you display is clear that you can tap into a lot of things but, I said you hardly sat in something to fully make an impact or elaborate instead of it just quickly going from one thing to the next. The flow was constant, so it was smooth but, mainly cause you make it look natural with how fast you move and transition but I still think it has a rushed feel. When it comes to the music, it looks pretty focused on beat killing or whatever term people want to call it as you maneuver. Not much change in tempo, unless to match one specific sound, rhythm changing, patience, etc. I'm not saying you have to do anything "the whole time" but the substance in your movement wasn't clear for me it was just a lot of movement or like you said showing range in movement. As far as CJ goes we talked about this where even you had to put me on and say with Diablo even if it is a set then that doesn't necessarily matter dependent on how they dish it out. CJ's rounds for sure could be more set base and of course premeditated but it didn't feel obvious like some dancers cause his flow was also really good. You spend more time with dude so maybe it's more obvious to you. Either way, I'm just speaking on it on that note and regardless you still my nigga
@@nikelepz410 I got my money on metal
I got my money on Fikshun.
1'st we have to know that it's a dance battle . So, we have to judge most importantly on the dance skill . And let the rest be the extra points that add to it.
CJRey is someone who can be put under the category of being able to dance and not a great dancer or one who can dance well. I believe most of what CJRey does can be learn within a short range of time by just random guys. Or even perform better when considering the dance skill. But what Fikshun did was way beyond what an ordinary guy can achieve within a short span of time or not even in a year. So, as long as the battle is a dance battle CJRey have no chance against Fikshun . If this battle was a skit or some story telling body movement ,CJ might have a chance . But He might stil lose to Fikshun , If fikshun too come up with a story telling type of dance or movement.
THIS IS A DANCE BATTLE , FIKSHUN DANCE WELL and Have better skill in dancing, so undoubtedly Fikshun , WIN.!!
Yeah bro it’s clear FIK SHUN(Hense the name and Brand) is a clear style of martial arts and gliding he is clearly a martial artist that ticks and glides there is a whole lot more than that and Cj is a clear story teller and Flexer
its pretty clear and Metal hit it right on the money. Also from my perspective it still looks like you are finding you're exact "Style" or "Foundational Movement". Unless you already have a main Style that you are foundationally grounded in? From watching you against people in many battles you been growing ALOT but still going from move to move or not having a constant groove or foundational pocket. Footy says other wise. You did you're thing and growing. Mad props to being hungry and battlen whomever comes into you're space. All love here.
This was a dope reaction bro, appreciate your honest opinion! ✨ keep doing these! I def respect that feedback on gang ✨ and thank you for reacting to my battle fr, shits tight af 😭
Damn comment section going crazy everybody has his own opinion
1st round: Fik
2nd round: CJ
3rd round: Fik
That's my opinion
I agree that fik won cj was really good though
Same, my exact lineup
I agree
If I was to judge in terms of what I appreciate in dance (I'm not gonna go into what I like to see when I'm watching a dancer but if you're interested in knowing you can hit me up) I would judge the battle like this:
First round: Fik-shun
This was the closest round of the whole battle. I thought CJ character in this round and was really nice. But in this round he didn't use his creativity to blend his character with dancing enough for me. I felt like his character was so strong it ever so slightly over took his dancing a bit and I feel like that's what gave Fik-shun the edge here. Fik-shun beat-killed every part of that song, he didn't show as much character as CJ but the little character he did show was nicely blended in with his dance.
Second round: CJ
This one is a no brainer.
CJ absolutely destroyed Fik-shun in this round from character to dancing to everything, it was a slaughter. Fik-shun showed a bit more character in this round but he was no match in this round.
Third round: Fik-shun
I think CJ more beat himself here than Fik-Shun beating him. I thought the concept he had was cool but it took long to execute. And it was evident by the fact that by the time the round was finished he wasn't even no where near done. Fik-shun did the stuff he normally does (clean as always, beat killed every part of the song as always) but he completed his round.
So yeah that's my opinion bro. But I respect yours and that's why I'm a subscriber of the channel. Keep grinding bro.
much love dog
I agree with you 100%. Steaigbt up
Rd 1 Fikshun
Rd 2 CJ
Rd 3 Fikshun
CJ def could've won this battle if he didn't play with the book so much in the 3rd round. Battlefest fucked up cutting his round short but he wasted alot of time with the prop and wasn't coming with no concepts with it.
My thoughts exactly! 3rd round for Cj had so much potential but he did a little too much with the book.
For all of you commenting on his opinion. See this differs if you really a dancer that understands "Pocket" and "Foundation". See when you not ingrained into a specific style to have a ground/foundation. You tend to throw beat kills and different styles/moves. In which that is what Fik Shun was doing. He is growing and getting better every single battle. Experienced dancer's understand when they see the difference in a battle. Nuff SAID! @metal you hit the nail on the head brotha!! I agree 100%.
Even for me, (as a non-dancer but love watching it) i can see Fikshun's style is missing something. I dont have the knowledge that dancers have so I wouldn't be able to explain it. He has all the skill, technique, character, physical ability, musicality but without that proper foundation in a specific style... dancers like Fikshun will have a dance that looks great but not connect the way it should. Going from one move to the next. Skills in different areas will look less fluid. I dont know why he feels like a lot of the dance community is trying to attack him and dancers like him. Even with all that, he is still an elite dancer and only getting better. Also deserves respect and is a star in the dancing community.
The Flexing/Bruk-up style is still growing on me so I'm continually learning the rules of it. The music that is played at these battles play a part into why its hard for me to connect with their dance . It seems lean towards performance/showcasing and not much "dance" . Its like who can outperform/outconcept instead of who can outdance each other
Yes i agree an im a huge Fik shun fan.
@@prisonpapers765 stop lying. if you got say you are, we all know youre lying
Yoo really good point about needing to have technique on top of movement, not just technique only. Fikshun's stuff is super clean but harder for me to follow bc everything is its own moment and I don't feel the overall character / consistency each round. Fikshun's 3rd round was def stronger because he sat in his pockets longer and developed the movement so I got to appreciate it.
He was a consistent martial artist and glider some people really dont have their own style so they don’t know what it means to create one ex specially to know what to look for you don’t even know what your looking for when you judge I bet you just now realized fik shun was a martial artist and glider he clearly has micro bounces into his pockets
I gave it 2-1 Fikshun with the first round being the decider. If I were to let each of the pick their best round and put them against one another, then this would be an easy CJ win for me. Everything you said about the 2nd and 3rd was spot on. Feel like personal preference influenced the 1st round heavy. Both of them to me had about the same amount of punchlines/heavy hitters and while fik went the beat kill/super clean tech route, Cj went the story telling/ smooth flowing bruk up route. I'd say tie but if I had to choose a winner, Id edge to Fikshun
Both went crazy but Fik-Shun first round was 🔥🔥🔥🔥.
Fik won by just the first round. CJ dope as hell though.
Big goals accomplished this weekend, saddled up for this week.
Ay Metal u should make a podcast channel will blow tf up, cuz u got the PERFECT personality for a podcast, itd make that shit fun
Killa Vs Lil G. One of the illest battles I've seen to date. The whole vibe of the battle was just hype ASF.
I think you were looking for setups or flow. You hit it on the head when you said sporadic. There were small setups with Fik but nothing close to Cj’s set ups
I felt this way for a long time but watching fiction dance is a lot like listening to artists who rap fast for the sake of rapping fast. Technically impressive, but nothing stands out. There's no breathing room, or build up. Nothing dynamic is really happening. They might be on beat but I won't remember a bar or a flow.
Thank you for being realistic i said the same thing, its just the understand of dance and what they are actually doing, CJ had a clear idea even tho hes not as energetic
Battles shouldn't be based on stories, it's not a Showcase. Just dancing and freestyling should be the focus cz to me, story dancing is like doing choreography when you know the song.
but then when your just beat killing it looks like it has no feel or intent with the moves, I see what you mean but in battles like this, where they have time to prepare to music they know, it adds another layer to their dance.
I'm glad you reacted to this fam ✊✊✊
Dope analysis
Fik-shun took all 3 rounds to me. For me personally not to many people can beat fikshun because he has sick technique alot of dancers have simply not taken the time to match the actual techniques with what they are trying to do. I can look at what Is being done but the bigger issue is the technique. yeah cj had concepts but his technique was off. Also fikshuns level of difficulty in his moves are waaaaay higher. The ground movement period is extremely hard to do especially at the level that fikshun does. Then to add his musicality on top of it is just ridiculous. Having foot and ankle control like fikshuns takes alot of practice as well. So much goes into what fikshun did I can understand how he can take the battle.
All 3 rounds?.......even the 2nd round......??
@@rockjm9876543210 Yes, even the second round was well danced. But just that it was short and wasn't completely shown in the video.
@@fyifyi3021 Well then.....as I always say when it come to every art form it's all subjective. To me 2nd round wasn't even close, cj caught a body in that round. Fikshun took the other two rounds though.
Honestly I woulda gave it to CJ I feel like he know exactly what to do when it comes to battling
Cj got dogged especially in the first half that's just my opinion but he was clean not gonna lie
@@izukumidoriya-qg8lu nah honestly I don’t think fik shun did that much in terms of battling
@@yksanta8997 honestly he didn’t do much to hurt cj really
What you're saying tho, is purely subjective. You prefer one style over the other. And that's totally cool. But when you judge battles you have to go off of objective technical principles only. For example, say you like krump, and you see a krumper battle a flexer, then you're automatically going to lean towards the krumper. But if you look at the techniques without personal subjective preferences, only then can you judge the battle fairly and accurately.
Love the channel bro, keep em comin! 🤘
P.S. I had it 2-1 Fikshun. 😉
I felt like after the intro, CJ slowed down hard. He never really did anything that caught my attention like his round vs vero. He has a couple moments here and there but nothing crazy in my opinion. I can see what you said about fikshun, but I felt that his beat kills and his moments stood out more.
Was that gangsta hotline in the beginning?🤣🤣
IS it just me or is the battle edited a bit too jarring? Like it felt like CJ got cut off mid round with the way the camera cut? I didn't even get a second to recognize he round had ended before they were rushing it along like they were worried I was bored.
That being said, this really feels like a case of technique vs storytelling. I agree Fikshun was out there to beatkill and to show off how he can hit all of these different styles but I didn't *feel* anything behind it. And Fikshun's technique is far cleaner than CJ's but at least with CJ it didn't feel like it was going from "Check my glide, check my tut, check my wave" box checking. I do think Fikshun won this but it more felt like CJ snatched defeat from the jaws of victory with how he spent way to long with a interesting concept in the 3rd and made it more 'eh' with how long he went with it. I feel like if you're not making it an extension of yourself (like Ruin and his hat), it works against you the second the viewer feels like it's lasting too long. I enjoyed what they both brought but I expected more? I don't mean it to sound disrespectful if it came off like that but I just felt like both of them have higher baselines.
Fikshun's second round got cut. CJ's third round got cut. Battelfest fucked up on that note
@@metalspalace That's real fucked up :(
I understand cutting footage dont make make sense to me
@@metalspalace cutting battles is a bad practice if you ask me.
Was the legs snake move Fikshun did a Pacman (Phillip Chbeeb) thing or? What is biting a move and what is building around the idea? Someone let me know...xx
Phillip
But fikshuns is altered
Yo the wig 🤣
Ight immmmm back, so I think this was a great battle especially for contrasting styles. For me Fik shun didn't really sit in a pocket he used a lot of concepts but did sit in any and switched each concept with a beat kill. Whereas I felt like cjs rou D's were more complete he had movements setup by concepts with well placed best kills with out that being the theme of how he was dancing. I think using the book was bold just like prop and wasted a lot of that round I did think Fik shun took that round. Outside of that I felt like CJ showed more versatility, vocabulary and imagery. But is it just me or does it look like fikshun goes back to the same moveset each battle? I could be tripping but I feel like when I watch fikshun I'm just rewatching a different video of him same moves different song. If I'm being honest it reminds me of how larry is now don't get me wrong I love larry's style but I know when he's lost in a battle. Metal has brought it up a bunch on how best killing isn't all that dancing is and not that's all that is needed to win a battle or shouldn't be. I think beat kills work best when they throw the crowd off when they arnt expecting to break the same groove or a over used concept ect. I think a lot of people see best killing as eye candy and enjoy it. I know someone brought up a similar point in the discord and I totally agree it's pleasing to see someone hit a beat perfectly and hear it. But judges shouldn't allow that to fog the judgement of the rounds. If we take the rounds as a whole I'm giving it 2-1 CJ all day. That's just my opinion tho.
Let me start by saying both guys went crazy! I do however have to give it to Fik. I agree with you when you said Fik rode the beats he danced to but nothing really stood out like that. It was just clean dancing and stops all around. CJ on the other hand grabbed me with his setups. I’m a sucker for storytelling and his 2nd and 3rd rounds were just that. However he sorta dropped the ball with the 3rd round. It started off great, but the more it went on the more it felt like it was dragging. I felt like he could’ve done a lot more with it. Like you said in the video he had a lot of ground to make up for after all of that exposition in the beginning of the round. If Cj’s 3rd round hit like his 2nd did I would’ve said he took that one. In the end I give it 2-1, in Fik’s favor. The 1st round Fik took that for me, no question. The 2nd round Cj knocked it out the park! Then Fik took 3rd but only because Cj just didn’t do enough for me in that round, dance-wise. That’s my take. Love the channel brotha, keep up the great work!
Bro you should do a video on Les Twins Strife Battle that was one of, if not the best I’ve seen Larry. Would love to hear your thoughts on that one
@Tim P Yes
You the OG MANNN Only few do this shiiiittttt
I’d give it a tie. For me fik first round was cool cus he took on a Jersey song in a way I haven’t seen before. But CJs story telling as well as how he connected his moves felt more solid in terms of dancing. Second round I remember fikshuns round more but once again CJs dance was more consistent. And 3rd fell a lil flat with CJ cus of the use of the prop(could’ve been utilized better) giving fikshun the edge. Overall fikshuns rounds were more appealing to me but looking I appreciate CJs consistency more.
I got my money on Fikshun.
1'st we have to know that it's a dance battle . So, we have to judge most importantly on the dance skill . And let the rest be the extra points that add to it.
CJRey is someone who can be put under the category of being able to dance and not a great dancer or one who can dance well. I believe most of what CJRey does can be learn within a short range of time by just random guys. Or even perform better when considering the dance skill. But what Fikshun did was way beyond what an ordinary guy can achieve within a short span of time or not even in a year. So, as long as the battle is a dance battle CJRey have no chance against Fikshun . If this battle was a skit or some story telling body movement ,CJ might have a chance . But He might stil lose to Fikshun , If fikshun too come up with a story telling type of dance or movement.
THIS IS A DANCE BATTLE , FIKSHUN DANCE WELL and Have better skill in dancing, so undoubtedly Fikshun , WIN.!!
I honestly feel like metal is just trying to make cj happy bro so he can get him in the studio, fikshuns movement was clear and he has a story in his subtle movements, metal just has a certain style of dance he likes and fikshun doesn't fit the criteria, I personally prefer the high speed tempo and I think it's alot more aggressive in a dance battle, The story telling on the other hand is great but I feel like dance battles should come down to raw skill and not some choreographed story. But everyones got there own preference.
Nope
I don’t got money and Fikshun or CJ. Fikshun has the same movement and over a short amount of time for me I start to get tired to see it because you can imagine the stops, drops and glides he always does. BUT fikshun paused in the music and would then change to a different style or concept so idk how metal said he didn’t pause. He did have a few moves suck as the last two in his first round (the arm strength for the feet change midair and that walk was kinda of nice) my opinion though. However I feel Metal is in favor CJ just for lip syncing with the music and using props. Once the props dropped so did the momentum in his round. I saw the paper plane and I said “Here we go again” 😂 It was less but metal said it was more so idk.
Yeah fikshun has alot of resets dawg
1st round ---- fikshun
2nd round---- c.j
3rd round-----fikshun
Note:Am not a fan of any but winning a round does not only do about your opening,so be logical bro.Fikshun won and its over stop creating faults,do you think you are better than the judges who judged
FIKSHUN 4 DA WIN!
Who else replayed 7:17
I really feel as though CJ Ray just got robbed. Both these dancers are extremely dope, but there is no way you can even say Fikshun won. At best I have him winning the last round, but the first two werent even close CJRays energy was just way different, and the story telling was insane. Fikshun was super clean as always, but thats it his movements had no purpose, he beat killed for three rounds. I really just cant give him the W, respectfully💯🙏🏽👑 #Cp9Jabra
TOTALLY DISAGREE BUT THAT YO OPINION
@@Imamachine7 aye that's fine we are all entitled to our opinions. By the way I'm not saying I dont like Fikshun, I just didnt like him in this battle. Hes still a legend out here so it's always respect frfr
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