As a beginner I really appreciate what Donner is giving folks here. The prices on this stuff is such a huge barrier to entry that making devices that are good enough and simple to approach means a lot in my opinion. I think great artists are gonna come out of this.
Donner's first generation products have been so good for the price, I'm really looking forward to see what they do when they get to the second or third generations.
Surprisingly this is a good machine. Despite the price donner is a good brand and if you are building a studio from scratch, this is a good way of doing it and getting those hits out without breaking the bank.
@TheIndustrialRetrospective The B1 (303 clone) is fun as hell. Pro tip: pull off the volume knob and swap it with the cutoff knob. That's the gal you want to dance with anyway. I've taken chances on shittier gear from pawnshops to goof around with. Donner is TRYING to make usable gear inexpensive and I commend them for it. Good on them. Nice video.
I've been waiting for this thing to drop. I love the B1. Hopefully this will get the B1 treatment. A good firmware update and a substantial price drop. Listed at £289 (£239 with presale discount), I couldn't justify buying this over the competitors you mentioned. In the meantime I will strap myself in for the dozens of incoming reviews, from content makers that are about to have this thing sent to them. Also, I just bought myself the amazing Microfreak, due to your great videos. So that will keep me more than occupied whilst I wait.
Donner's b1 bass synth is excellent, this one is in a slightly higher price range but I like the company, and with the b1 they did release a firmware update to address initial issues so I bet they will do the same for this device.
Are all Donner gear videos sponsored by Donner? Seems like it. I was researching for Donner DDP-80 review that was not sponsored by the company. And down the YT rabbit hole I went and found Loopop, who I already loved and subed to. Thanks for the honest reivew!
Between my Korg Drumlogue and Yamaha Seqtrak I'm covered for drum sequencing hardware, and then some. Very cool for the price though. I personally believe in saving a bit longer for the synth that you _really_ want instead of settling. 🤷 Maybe that's just me. One could also drop $15 on FL Studio Mobile and another $15 on Koala Sampler and skip right to making music. On the go, no less. Thanks for another great review! ✌️✨
Nice! A feature filled entry that won't break the bank. I think they've find a nice spot (similar to Sonicware) - stuff that's very feature filled, pretty decent build quality (maybe not road warrior tank level, but more than fine) - and priced at a point where a teenager could get into them by themselves. I'm sure some older gear snobs will turn up their noses for some reason, but I think some of those folks forget that not everyone can afford to grab a digitakt or TR-8S or something on a whim when they need a drum machine. Just like Korg Volca's, I think these are great for folks to get and expand their music creating hobby. Good stuff.
😂 yes! it looks like all those vj controllers i wish were audio controllers. And it does look to handle that way aswell. Circuit rythm, sp404mk2 and that ko thing has a contender 😊
Woah thats a pretty cool device. I already have their B1 and I think they did a pretty good job there. Now I just have to wait for it to appear on the used market so I can save some money hahaha
I guess it's fine but still feel like the Circuit Rhythm does everything better and faster to operate and has internal battery, can be powered with usb, can sample etc.
Honestly I would find it hard to recommend this over the competition, especially considering the mk1 Polyend Tracker is like 50 bucks more used and Model:Samples seems much nicer EDIT: I am ofc happy that budget gear exists and this has some unique features for sure
Look, Korg! Watch and learn from Donner. You can steal some ideas for next update for the Drumlogue and for the Electribe 3. I think that everyone will be happy and no one will blamw you
Well, they'll adress the bugs. I have no use for these type of machines, but I can see myself buying it to import samples and use external effects on it for simple things. Specially if Im not in a mood for DAWing. Seems legit
Seems relatively well priced for what it is. An MC-101 is more expensive, EP-133 is significantly more limited, model samples is the closest price wise. At £289 its not a bad buy, but it does need a few changes, i agree a chromatic pad mode would be great and selectable perameters for tracks. At the end of the day though, theres a lot there for the money before you pay a lot more and get into drumlogue etc... territory.
I got one of those expensive TE ep-133 KO 2 calculator ehhh this one probably beats it hands down but at least looks interesting on my coffee table a good conversational piece
i wish they went with a more stylized unique sound, like a 909 or Drumbrute, with less menu/folder diving... that would have paired nicely with the B1. I just want to have a reason to buy one evn tho i have other beat boxes.
Quirky limitations, hard to see anyone going with this vs the ep-133 or even the Circuit Tracks. But maybe they can turn it around like the OG Circuit did with the firmware support.
I would 100% pick-up model:samples. Does everything this thing does + much more without weird limitation like hardcoded hp filter and lp filter on certain tracks. The price seem to be exactly the same, this is a no-brainer imo
Interesting drum machine for the price. The "save" finger dance is a bit daft. If I were in the market for something like this, I'd compare it to a used MPC One or used Roland TR-8S.
@@loopop You said 3 sec and 11 sec in the video. So 58sec, 3sec and 11 sec it's terrible to do it this way! What are they thinking and no stereo sampling.
The price of this went from being $200 CAD to $410 CAD upon availability… I went from being genuinely excited for a super affordable drum machine/sampler to supplement my live set up, to not even considering this thing viable at that price point
Yup, it was 200 in online stores year ago, than after Namm 2023 it was 250, now it's like 300 USD... i bet sending free gear to all the RUclipsrs have something to do with it. Marketing, brah!
Another alternative for this: try finding a 2nd hand Arturia SparkLE. This is a hardware controller, the actual software (standalone, VST2) runs on your PC/laptop, so yes you need to bring your laptop too. But: - it can do everything this Donner D1 can do, - it can do much more, wihtout the limitations of the D1, - it can be found for ~€100-150 (price in Germany). I have one. Thought I would use it a lot. But I don't, mainly it can do way too much, so I never ever get past the stage of "auditioning drum sounds".
Great review as ever loopop ,but like all of Donner's gear , this is cheap and nasty and at most a kids first drum machine .I wish you would start reviewing some Behringer clones , as they are improving over the last year or so and i'd love to hear your views.
Thanks! I don't think this or the B1 is cheap and nasty nor a kids toy. For example, the B1 is very comparable to the Behringer TD-3 with a way more easy to understand and powerful sequencer, and a delay. For now I'm staying away from Behringer due to their corporate behavior (lies about being "the ultimate non profit", lies about me personally, etc)
@@loopop Thanks for reply ,we will agree to disagree about Donner's kebabs .You know I had a feeling you would say that about Behringer.A couple of local synth repair guys that I use now and then ,work for Behringer to repair their faulty seconds and they say they are a very difficult company to deal with and Uli isn't the most pleasant of guys.Great work and hope to hear from you soon.Reg
@@loopop yeah. I get that. But would you pay £60+ extra for this over them? You can get those for 220 each, sometimes less depending on the shop. This is 289. Makes little sense to me as a product. 189 and it's in the mix.
Donner makes a bunch of guitar pedals so they may already have a multi-effects guitar box that has some of those effects algorithms in it. I've used some of their analog guitar pedals and they're quite well made little pedals.
Donner usually produces cheaper stuff than other manufacturers and...this is not "entry level" price. Did Donner forgot that Volca Drum and Samples are still on the market selling like crazy for a hundred something? Also Electrons, Circuit... it's all still there. KO2 is there for about the same price. Also... Seqtrack anyone? D-1 is a picture perfect $150-$200 gear, at it should always stay at that price point. Too many competition in upper weight classes. Way too many and the year is not over yet. Wish all the best for Donner tho, their B-1 is still the best thing that was ever made in this universe.
no battery, and no USB c power? seems odd in 24🔋 64 projects too few. Pattern Memory should not be artificially limited on modern devices! even if samples are
@@ilikeitdark13 Damned expensive - lets be honest this can all be done in software for very nearly free, as much as Loopop seems to close his ears to VSTs.
ha that's actually not a bad idea... except of course the hassle of dragging stuff over 9 times. It would though even further underline the need for subfolders.
60 days? Kickstarter isnt a pre-order. 60 days is a very short time in kickstarter land. I see people place a pledge on Kickstarter and then a month later they're on their getting angry complaining "hey where's my product, its been a whole month!". these are just people who dont understand how Kickstarter works. "fiasco"... you understand how how Kickstarter works.
@@djangofett4879Nailed it. Kickstarter is for those with patience. I was ground-floor on the KS for nanoloopFM… Waited almost two YEARS before it landed in my mailbox (pledged March '19 -> delivered Feb. '21). Two months is nothing.
Some people wouldn't pay $5 for a drum machine, so if that's what you're saying make sense, but can you name a competitor that offers a similar drum machine for $100?
i’m not offended at all. I was asking seriously please don’t be offended though if I say that I totally disagree with you, but such debate is exactly why we have the comment section
"Lost all its charm..." I detect some sarcasm. Good review. Way too tedious a device for me - unfun. Trying to offer so many features for under $300 severely compromises the interface which is the experience. The Elektron MD is as complicated as I want outside of a DAW. Cheers!
@@loopop you were talking about a riff you had created, not the instrument. Maybe I was reading too much but I thought you were implying it was a bit cheesy. 😜 The tool is definitely capable. It's just not ergonomically in my wheelhouse.
@@loopop Thanks for the video. Do you know of any sequencers besides the MPC that let you hold down a pad and an erase button to delete notes in real-time sequencing without messing with a step sequencer?
Imagine putting anything beside the effects tail in a left to right stereo field! In the 80ties that would have been essential. Nowadays they don’t even bother to put such “outrages” stuff in the presets. It’s almost as if multitracking has never been invented. I’d better keep my Stylophone beat then. It’s dead cheap, mono and at least has a great rock kit on it which is actually the reason I bought it in spite of its limitations. In short: Postmodernism has killed creativity.
@@djangofett4879 Started as a literature style. Yadayada. In architecture it might stand for the period after The International style. Yadayada. Is nowadays more generally used as a reference to stagnation and a lack of optimism in the future. Yadayada. Am I warm enough? 🥵
I own a bunch of Donner guitar pedals and they are quite well made. also got a B-1 and it works perfectly, sounds great. You didn't actually own any of their gear, did you?
It's hardly a limitation. Practically speaking, there are very few use cases where you would actually need stereo samples. Stereo becomes important *after* panning and adding fx.
I review expensive gear, people complain; I review stuff that's great, people complain I don't say bad enough things, can't win them all :) I actually think this has potential and in some ways exceeds the competition if they fix what they say they're going to fix and a bit more; but of course the comment section is for people that don't agree with me too!
From the view of a total noob like me: This thing looks amazing, but the fact, that it's brother (B1) is ready to buy for ~150€ nowadays with the D1 seemingly having a pricetag arround 300€ - my question is: Is this a budget device yet? I mean, as nice as the D1 looks, the Novation Circurit Rythm is on sale for arround 300-350€. Or are the two devices aiming for different markets? As I said, I am a noob and normaly only in the market for low cost beginner devices.
As a beginner I really appreciate what Donner is giving folks here. The prices on this stuff is such a huge barrier to entry that making devices that are good enough and simple to approach means a lot in my opinion. I think great artists are gonna come out of this.
This is truly one of the drum machines
It certainly *is* a drum machine 🧐
Yeah but I think it would be much better if it had
This is one of them@@colinwood9717
100%
Facts!
Donner's first generation products have been so good for the price, I'm really looking forward to see what they do when they get to the second or third generations.
This is a poor man's Digitakt. I love it!
Can't wait for the bad gear episode on this one
like stealing a lolly from a baby
You won't have to wait long
"At first glance this ticks all the boxes"
"Direct to Bad Gear Seal of Quality"
😅
Surprisingly this is a good machine. Despite the price donner is a good brand and if you are building a studio from scratch, this is a good way of doing it and getting those hits out without breaking the bank.
i have a few of their guitar pedals and the 303 clone, which has a certian greasyness that all other 303 clones are lacking
They are great for bunging together an impromptu set-up for on the move artists too!
@TheIndustrialRetrospective The B1 (303 clone) is fun as hell. Pro tip: pull off the volume knob and swap it with the cutoff knob. That's the gal you want to dance with anyway. I've taken chances on shittier gear from pawnshops to goof around with. Donner is TRYING to make usable gear inexpensive and I commend them for it. Good on them. Nice video.
They are not a good brand if you need to speak to support.
Yeah.....hits
I've been waiting for this thing to drop. I love the B1. Hopefully this will get the B1 treatment. A good firmware update and a substantial price drop. Listed at £289 (£239 with presale discount), I couldn't justify buying this over the competitors you mentioned. In the meantime I will strap myself in for the dozens of incoming reviews, from content makers that are about to have this thing sent to them.
Also, I just bought myself the amazing Microfreak, due to your great videos. So that will keep me more than occupied whilst I wait.
As far as drum machines come this one is definitely one.
Its a sample player🤷♂️
insert tired reddit joke formula
Donner's b1 bass synth is excellent, this one is in a slightly higher price range but I like the company, and with the b1 they did release a firmware update to address initial issues so I bet they will do the same for this device.
Are all Donner gear videos sponsored by Donner? Seems like it.
I was researching for Donner DDP-80 review that was not sponsored by the company. And down the YT rabbit hole I went and found Loopop, who I already loved and subed to. Thanks for the honest reivew!
Thanks - this isn't sponsored (unless you count the free gear, but as you probably guessed I don't exactly have a shortage of drum machines)
@@loopop oh ya, thats what I meant, Donner is providing gear for (alomost) every video I have found. thanks for the response.
Between my Korg Drumlogue and Yamaha Seqtrak I'm covered for drum sequencing hardware, and then some. Very cool for the price though. I personally believe in saving a bit longer for the synth that you _really_ want instead of settling. 🤷 Maybe that's just me. One could also drop $15 on FL Studio Mobile and another $15 on Koala Sampler and skip right to making music. On the go, no less.
Thanks for another great review! ✌️✨
Bucket Brigade sounds great. Amazes me what one can get their hands on at this price range these days.
Nice! A feature filled entry that won't break the bank. I think they've find a nice spot (similar to Sonicware) - stuff that's very feature filled, pretty decent build quality (maybe not road warrior tank level, but more than fine) - and priced at a point where a teenager could get into them by themselves.
I'm sure some older gear snobs will turn up their noses for some reason, but I think some of those folks forget that not everyone can afford to grab a digitakt or TR-8S or something on a whim when they need a drum machine.
Just like Korg Volca's, I think these are great for folks to get and expand their music creating hobby. Good stuff.
They are leaning very hard into that "Mom bought you music gear that turned out to be a video editing midi controller" esthetic
😂 yes! it looks like all those vj controllers i wish were audio controllers. And it does look to handle that way aswell. Circuit rythm, sp404mk2 and that ko thing has a contender 😊
I like how it things. It sounds almost like a drum machine.
It's Behringer without the baggage .. I approve
nothing like any Behringer product
Woah thats a pretty cool device. I already have their B1 and I think they did a pretty good job there.
Now I just have to wait for it to appear on the used market so I can save some money hahaha
I guess it's fine but still feel like the Circuit Rhythm does everything better and faster to operate and has internal battery, can be powered with usb, can sample etc.
Honestly I would find it hard to recommend this over the competition, especially considering the mk1 Polyend Tracker is like 50 bucks more used and Model:Samples seems much nicer
EDIT: I am ofc happy that budget gear exists and this has some unique features for sure
Look, Korg! Watch and learn from Donner. You can steal some ideas for next update for the Drumlogue and for the Electribe 3. I think that everyone will be happy and no one will blamw you
I still can’t believe the Electribe 3 hasn’t been released.
@@milk_bath same, i have the blue metal SDcard electribe MX
Korg simply doesn't want to make another good Electribe. Just buy an Elektron box. They feel sooooooooo similar and they're made better.
@@koalemos1679 True.
What should they learn? No offence, but it's just an ordinary sample based drum machine. And it cost like Elektron M:S
Loopop sounds really excited to make this video!
I'm using my poker voice throughout
@@loopopdon’t play poker unless you can afford to lose. 😂
Although lacking in a few ways, this could give the (six instrument) TR-6S a run for the money.
Well, they'll adress the bugs.
I have no use for these type of machines, but I can see myself buying it to import samples and use external effects on it for simple things. Specially if Im not in a mood for DAWing. Seems legit
I kinda like the looks
Seems relatively well priced for what it is. An MC-101 is more expensive, EP-133 is significantly more limited, model samples is the closest price wise.
At £289 its not a bad buy, but it does need a few changes, i agree a chromatic pad mode would be great and selectable perameters for tracks. At the end of the day though, theres a lot there for the money before you pay a lot more and get into drumlogue etc... territory.
Best when drunk, everyone wants a Donner Kebab!!!
🤣🤣🤣
Lol
is this like the goxlr so you can hold the button so you can capture audio in real time?
I got one of those expensive TE ep-133 KO 2 calculator ehhh this one probably beats it hands down but at least looks interesting on my coffee table a good conversational piece
can I link it and sync it with a cheap Behringer synth like a pro vs mini? Without any mixer, only these 2 things? tks!
I'm not familiar with it but if it can follow or send MIDI clock and transport you should be good to go!
Like most kebabs, this Donner would seem like a good idea after a few drinks on a Friday night...
VELCOME TO ANOTHER....oh wait too soon?
Waiting for the big price drop - I got my open box B1 for $60 recently from Donner!
i wish they went with a more stylized unique sound, like a 909 or Drumbrute, with less menu/folder diving... that would have paired nicely with the B1. I just want to have a reason to buy one evn tho i have other beat boxes.
That firmware looks a like the Elektron Model series
Yep just a little less immediate samples in layout and more menu divey but has actual strengths with the fx section vs the models
But does it Roland?
Small screen - check
Faders with pretty colours - check
Pads with pretty colours - check
….
Achievement Unlocked - MPC Light ;)
Better screen than Roland gear costing more. And that’s sad! 😂
It does Hello Kitty
Pretty cool actually!!
Good review! It looks interesting.
Nice! I’m going to add it to my Timbre Wolf rig.
Quirky limitations, hard to see anyone going with this vs the ep-133 or even the Circuit Tracks. But maybe they can turn it around like the OG Circuit did with the firmware support.
I would 100% pick-up model:samples. Does everything this thing does + much more without weird limitation like hardcoded hp filter and lp filter on certain tracks. The price seem to be exactly the same, this is a no-brainer imo
I thought the same. As far as I understand the only advantage is that is has 12 tracks + faders compared to 6 on the Samples...
I think it's a model samples killer! Much better, more memory
Interesting drum machine for the price. The "save" finger dance is a bit daft. If I were in the market for something like this, I'd compare it to a used MPC One or used Roland TR-8S.
4GB internal storage while 11sec sample length limited, 9ms sound delay on this Dönner Shish Kebab!🙂
well it's 58 seconds on the top 4 sample tracks, but 3.7 on most of the others - just setting the record straight
@@loopop You said 3 sec and 11 sec in the video. So 58sec, 3sec and 11 sec it's terrible to do it this way! What are they thinking and no stereo sampling.
That screen enlarger above the drum machine is cool. Where can I get it?
@@GriffonRed it’s not real, just an overlay that I add in post production when I edit the video
@@loopop Oh ok.
Donner gets better quality than I though.
can u record your note repeats into the pattern? as we often do on mpc
no, unfortunately note repeats are disabled in live rec mode
Pass or fail i love the raspberry pi based instruments on the market. Endless potential.
Looks more like microcontroller based idk I hope some reviewer started opening this boxes to see what's in the guts
It would be cool to see it's guts. I doubt there is a pi in there...
The price of this went from being $200 CAD to $410 CAD upon availability… I went from being genuinely excited for a super affordable drum machine/sampler to supplement my live set up, to not even considering this thing viable at that price point
Donna has crazy sales around Black Friday on ebay. check back then.
Yup, it was 200 in online stores year ago, than after Namm 2023 it was 250, now it's like 300 USD... i bet sending free gear to all the RUclipsrs have something to do with it. Marketing, brah!
Hi, thank you for the video!
Is it possible to know the max length of a sample?
i didn't see it on the donner's website.
thanks!!!
58 seconds for the four top pads, 3.7 for 6 of the 8 bottom ones and I forget the other two but it's in the video...
Thanks a lot! 👍
What about using this as a Midi controller ?
snashed it out the park Donnor, under £300 for a 12 channel sampler, with pitch, and 12 step velocity, and an easy to use GUI.
It's not a sampler. It's a sample player. Big difference
Another alternative for this: try finding a 2nd hand Arturia SparkLE. This is a hardware controller, the actual software (standalone, VST2) runs on your PC/laptop, so yes you need to bring your laptop too. But: - it can do everything this Donner D1 can do, - it can do much more, wihtout the limitations of the D1, - it can be found for ~€100-150 (price in Germany).
I have one. Thought I would use it a lot. But I don't, mainly it can do way too much, so I never ever get past the stage of "auditioning drum sounds".
Great review as ever loopop ,but like all of Donner's gear , this is cheap and nasty and at most a kids first drum machine .I wish you would start reviewing some Behringer clones , as they are improving over the last year or so and i'd love to hear your views.
Thanks! I don't think this or the B1 is cheap and nasty nor a kids toy. For example, the B1 is very comparable to the Behringer TD-3 with a way more easy to understand and powerful sequencer, and a delay. For now I'm staying away from Behringer due to their corporate behavior (lies about being "the ultimate non profit", lies about me personally, etc)
@@loopop Thanks for reply ,we will agree to disagree about Donner's kebabs .You know I had a feeling you would say that about Behringer.A couple of local synth repair guys that I use now and then ,work for Behringer to repair their faulty seconds and they say they are a very difficult company to deal with and Uli isn't the most pleasant of guys.Great work and hope to hear from you soon.Reg
Dull 90s sampler groovebox sounds for low expectations drum & bass home parties. That '96 parkin' lot morning hangover back with a bang 🎉
That's the exact comment you'd expect from someone who relies on presets
But would anyone pick this over a novation circuit tracks/rhythm, or electron model cycles/samples
This for the things I mention in the pros (e.g. 12 tracks, 4gb storage, screen), and the others for the things I mention in the cons
@@loopop yeah. I get that. But would you pay £60+ extra for this over them? You can get those for 220 each, sometimes less depending on the shop. This is 289. Makes little sense to me as a product. 189 and it's in the mix.
@@the_JTownyif they fix the issues I mention it would be a true dilemma
Those fx sound pretty nice, would be good to have those in a dedicated fx box, they sound better than it’s similar priced competition in my opinion.
Donner makes a bunch of guitar pedals so they may already have a multi-effects guitar box that has some of those effects algorithms in it. I've used some of their analog guitar pedals and they're quite well made little pedals.
For the price, can't get mad at any of the shortcomings. If anything, it looks to be quite the steal.
Is there an Obelix as well? 😂
Donner usually produces cheaper stuff than other manufacturers and...this is not "entry level" price. Did Donner forgot that Volca Drum and Samples are still on the market selling like crazy for a hundred something? Also Electrons, Circuit... it's all still there. KO2 is there for about the same price. Also... Seqtrack anyone?
D-1 is a picture perfect $150-$200 gear, at it should always stay at that price point. Too many competition in upper weight classes. Way too many and the year is not over yet.
Wish all the best for Donner tho, their B-1 is still the best thing that was ever made in this universe.
Does it beat the Korg Electribe?
no battery, and no USB c power? seems odd in 24🔋 64 projects too few. Pattern Memory should not be artificially limited on modern devices! even if samples are
Nice durum machine 😅
No odd meters/step length?
no
The TE EP-133 has shortcomings but it is far better. They are priced the same so your $$$ is best spent with the EP-133.
Copia da Alesis SR18 ou AKAI XR20 ?
This is one of the drum machines I’ve seen.
Making your own jokes is hard!
my sr-16!
Oooh-ooh Donner, you make me break up, you make me break down Donner...
It looks cool AND the price is great BUT is it just my ears, BUT this sounds very Lo-Fi ... Maybe it's the YT compression or maybe not ...
RUclips compression isn't that bad
Waiting until they drop a op-1 killah😂
listed at 399,-$, but sold out everywhere
Damn that is pricy....
@@ilikeitdark13 Damned expensive - lets be honest this can all be done in software for very nearly free, as much as Loopop seems to close his ears to VSTs.
@@H3liosphanand you can get hands on if you buy a midi controller ☝️
Will be cheaper after a few months. It's in stock for me (UK) with a discount for £240.
where did you see $399? It's 299 with a discount currently
It’s quirky. If it supports sequencing external gear, I’d get it.
it sends out MIDI, but just specific notes per track and clock, so I wouldn't call this quite a sequencer for external gear
re folders - could you not simply copy/paste EVERY sample into all the folders - negating the fencing off aspect?
you have a 4gb drive....
ha that's actually not a bad idea... except of course the hassle of dragging stuff over 9 times. It would though even further underline the need for subfolders.
can you effect the Aux in sound?
No
Anyone have a link for loopops books?
Thanks for asking, there's a link to my patreon in the description, you'll find the book there
@@loopop ok thanks, I was a little confused, it appears you have 3 store fronts.
@@pascaljean2333 yes I link to my book but also added links for people who want to check prices/buy the product
After the Donner Medo kickstarter fiasco which still has people waiting for responses from Donner 60 days later I'd recommend avoiding them.
60 days? Kickstarter isnt a pre-order. 60 days is a very short time in kickstarter land. I see people place a pledge on Kickstarter and then a month later they're on their getting angry complaining "hey where's my product, its been a whole month!". these are just people who dont understand how Kickstarter works.
"fiasco"... you understand how how Kickstarter works.
@@djangofett4879Nailed it. Kickstarter is for those with patience.
I was ground-floor on the KS for nanoloopFM… Waited almost two YEARS before it landed in my mailbox (pledged March '19 -> delivered Feb. '21).
Two months is nothing.
9ms latency - for a finger drummer not the right one. But where is an alternative?
Oof. Imagine having a product and Loopop does a review and states "things need to be fixed" right in the title. ouch.
i wouldnt pay more than a hundred for this its beyond bare bones.
Some people wouldn't pay $5 for a drum machine, so if that's what you're saying make sense, but can you name a competitor that offers a similar drum machine for $100?
@@loopop pocket operator has more features... im not trying to offend you it just my opinion.
i’m not offended at all. I was asking seriously please don’t be offended though if I say that I totally disagree with you, but such debate is exactly why we have the comment section
299? no audio interface? why dont using Elektron Model Samples new or Digitakt used? dont get it
It should be 299 - where did you see 399? I discuss competition in the pros and cons
@@loopop have corrected
Where buying Digitakt used for 299?
thx
Budget Digitakt
Model samples from temu
nice, but sold out... great.
seems to be in stock on amazon
Literally the price of a Drumlogue. Skip.
It will drop dramatically after about 6 months
It's 240 on Donets site
"Lost all its charm..." I detect some sarcasm. Good review. Way too tedious a device for me - unfun. Trying to offer so many features for under $300 severely compromises the interface which is the experience. The Elektron MD is as complicated as I want outside of a DAW. Cheers!
Thanks! BTW I said quite a few things, but did I say "lost its charm"? I must be losing my memory
@@loopop you were talking about a riff you had created, not the instrument. Maybe I was reading too much but I thought you were implying it was a bit cheesy. 😜 The tool is definitely capable. It's just not ergonomically in my wheelhouse.
@@garyphillips725ah yes about my riff for sure
How do you erase notes in real-time note recording? And how many patterns can you have in a song? Four? This guy talks so fast I think I missed a lot.
This guy says the video is 30 minutes long, imagine if I spoke slower! You can erase an entire part or just specific notes in the step sequencer.
@@loopop Thanks for the video. Do you know of any sequencers besides the MPC that let you hold down a pad and an erase button to delete notes in real-time sequencing without messing with a step sequencer?
Imagine putting anything beside the effects tail in a left to right stereo field! In the 80ties that would have been essential. Nowadays they don’t even bother to put such “outrages” stuff in the presets. It’s almost as if multitracking has never been invented. I’d better keep my Stylophone beat then. It’s dead cheap, mono and at least has a great rock kit on it which is actually the reason I bought it in spite of its limitations. In short: Postmodernism has killed creativity.
I don't think you know what postmodern means
@@djangofett4879 Started as a literature style. Yadayada. In architecture it might stand for the period after The International style. Yadayada. Is nowadays more generally used as a reference to stagnation and a lack of optimism in the future. Yadayada. Am I warm enough? 🥵
@@marcbrasse747What makes this device postmodern?
This ticks boxes
I've owned a lot of Donner gear. Past tense being operative here. I'll pass.
Present Perfect
I own a bunch of Donner guitar pedals and they are quite well made. also got a B-1 and it works perfectly, sounds great.
You didn't actually own any of their gear, did you?
MONO samples in 2024....wow!
Even the new Digitakt moved beyond that ridiculous limitation..
You could buy 2 of these and still have change for the price of a Digitakt. It's in a different league.
@@BloodyChunX Butt still ... MONO samples :/
Even the EP-133 has stereo samples
It's hardly a limitation. Practically speaking, there are very few use cases where you would actually need stereo samples. Stereo becomes important *after* panning and adding fx.
Why would you want one-shot drum samples specifically in stereo?
some people was right about you
I’ll bite - I’m what way?
Sorry it looks very unintuitive and the sounds were not mind-blowing. Looks generic and sounds generic. I would rather just work on a model:samples.
Sample based... 🥱🥱🥱🥱
What's wrong with that?
Too pricey for the features .. pass
To me, the first gear, below yours and this YT channel level :(
I review expensive gear, people complain; I review stuff that's great, people complain I don't say bad enough things, can't win them all :) I actually think this has potential and in some ways exceeds the competition if they fix what they say they're going to fix and a bit more; but of course the comment section is for people that don't agree with me too!
this is going to ruin the tour
Why cheap gear has to look ugly
I actually dont hate the looks
From the view of a total noob like me: This thing looks amazing, but the fact, that it's brother (B1) is ready to buy for ~150€ nowadays with the D1 seemingly having a pricetag arround 300€ - my question is: Is this a budget device yet?
I mean, as nice as the D1 looks, the Novation Circurit Rythm is on sale for arround 300-350€. Or are the two devices aiming for different markets? As I said, I am a noob and normaly only in the market for low cost beginner devices.
Just got a D1 and the sample side (right) of the software is greyed out plus the update is the same please help
I have no idea - why not contact support?