The Story of The Horde War Campaign - Part 1 Battle for Azeroth [Lore]
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- While we venture to Zandalar to recruit new allies in the war against the Alliance, we must also focus our attention on the homefront as well as invading enemy territory. Bases are required in Tiragarde Sound, Stormsong Valley and Drustvar, lets begin the Horde War Campaign! I hope you'll enjoy ^_^
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It looks blizzard just tossed in these characters into the horde campaign because they forgot that they existed.
I just love the line that tauren Centurion says in her quest log in Stormsong.
"Humans can be a cruel bunch from what I've heard, but these ones seem to take pleasure in slaying the fallen."
She is talking about people defending their homeland that belonged to them for 2000 years! She is the one invading!
God, I was always neutral. Always liked both Horde and Alliance but at this point I cannot understand how anyone could rationallize what the Horde is doing now.
Blizzard writing. Because they need the Horde to be the bad guys and the Human Alliance the good guys. Thanks to gameplay (Berserk buff) though, there are more Horde players than alliance to the point it's causing lots of problems in Servers. Horde always gets the last laugh.
I can understand Rexxar working for the Horde, he helped found it. But his reasoning, that Jaina is somehow evil and must be stopped, seems like a weird rationalization. She hasn't even been around for the last two expansions, and if you're looking at who is going "too far" well... he's working for her. Garona I wonder if she's still not working against Sylvannas in secret, if she's just suddenly king killer 2.0 and happy about it I will be disappointed.
Lillian makes even less sense then those two. Went from hating being undead to actively and happily killing and raising others into undead.
Actually Lillian makes a ton of sense. She does hate what she has become but slowly accepted it. Remember she was raised all the way back in Cataclysm, she got years of brooding behind her back. Also the reason she does help she actually saids herself, it is to ease the new forsaken in their new situation so they don't have to suffer like she did. Sylvanas was going to raise new forsaken no matter what so Lillian does what she can. Not to mention she hates the Alliance after they numerous times tried to kill her while she was still new, not to mention the stuff the Scarlet Crusade did if you play the MoP version of SM.
"she's killed to many" to many what? She probably has the lowest kill count of anyone right now
"we must stop her, her evil has gone too far! she returned fire after we killed all her friends and destroyed her city. truly only the action of an evil person." ----- Rexar the dumbest dumbass of them all.
cragxe She did try to, for all intensive purposes, nuke Orgrimmar though, and albeit understandable, it still is evil
@@eraldidisho4325 to be fair is her trying to flood and drown orgrimmar common knowledge? The only people present on Fray Island at the time was herself, Kalec, and Thrall. Thrall who had no ties to the horde at the time since he was leading the earthen ring and being a father had no actual time to address with a leader who wouldnt listen to him about how close they were from all dying. Kalec who has never set foot in orgrimmar who talked his lover down a ledge, tried to let the past be the past and let her heal. No one SHOULD know of the focusing iris incident on that island, especially since it would be random as hell to casually drop in conversation when Jaina has been off the grid for two expansions "yeah she was thiiis close from flooding orgrimmar because Garrosh dropped a bomb on everything she loved."
Jaina doesnt have an actual horde kill count to match everyone elses. Garonas motives are left field since she never really was a die hard horde supporter to repeat the same thing she has spent decades painfully regretting. These alterations to characters to fit motives that are as weak as a wet paper bag in a windstorm is bad writing.
What baffles me the most about Garona and Lilian in BfA is the Horde already has rogues they could have used instead of completely changing existing characters offscreen. If Kiryn was in Lilian's place, nothing would be different and it would make more sense.
It can't be for name recognition, because Shadow Hunter Tyjin is a nobody and they had no problem using him.
They could've easily replaced Rexxar with a Highmountain tauren too, but NOPE.
Tyjin a nobody? He has been around since Thrallmar in the Burning Crusade and returned in Warlords of Draenor to give out Daily Group quests.
+Ductos
But what has he DONE? You can't compare him to Garona, Lillian or Rexxar.
same could be said for some of the alliance followers, i had never heard of the gnome and the void elf was new to me.
The void elf is the leader of the void elves before Alleria comes along...
So Garona who hated the way she killed Llane Wrynn is now willing to kill Anduin. Rexxar believes Jaina has killed too many while the warchief of the Horde has literally killed thousands. Lilian who hates being undead is now helping Sylvanas raise new Forsaken. I guess they all have reasons to fight for the Horde just like the Horde players, but Blizzard could have come up with better reasons than these. I hope a future patch will shed some light.
Modern blizzard can't write worth a damn.
Now that you mention it. Most of the major Horde characters seem to have very few reasons to support Sylvanas at all.
I DESPISE what they did to Garona's Character. There is literally zero reason she should be beating her chest shouting "for the horde". Look I understand with the troubled history she had with the Alliance it makes sense that she wouldn't be with them but I would respect her character alot more if it was neutral.
I guess it's not really them deciding "Who is a better friend" as much as "Who is a worse enemy". It's not a stretch to believe the Alliance would lump them and the Horde together anyway even if they didn't join the Horde.
Jaina was going to kill everyone in Orgrimmar had she not been stopped.
While I do comprehend rexxar motives and the hate he may bear towards the kul tirans, I really can't get over Garona working with the horde... that is not how her charachter was built since warcraft 1! She was always a friend of the stormwind crown! She was saved countless times by great alliance heroes, from Lothar, to kadghar etc... she always was oit of the faction rivalry as a third party charachter, that is why we all loved her in the uncrowned. Hell she didn't received anything but Rejection from the horde and now She thinks is a good idea to work for sylvanas' horde? That is completely utterly disappointing... that is blizzard throwing around charachters for the sake of cool, while the story and the narratives would tell a conpletely different story...
She is somehow forced into this, that's what she says. "When extremists question your loyalty, you just do what you are ordered" or something like that. She only says that during the beginning of the war campaign. Also, her voicelines when you click her, change half-way through the campaign, she sounds a bit more cheerful, I guess.
Well when it's horde vs Alliance and she IS the one that backstabbed one of the previous kings, even if it was under mind control i don't think the Alliance will think very nicely of her. And since Khadgar wants absolutely no deal with this she either places her fate with the horde or gets hunted like an animal.
Rexxar working for Sylvanas and doing nothing during the rebellion against Garrosh is still a massive inconsistency in his character, and he should have not been involved in the Horde campaign. And Lillian Voss suddenly deciding that being undead is okay just feels wrong too. If you wanted a badass Horde hunter or an undead assassin lady, there were other options like Nazgrim's group in Pandaria, but NOPE.
@@Zhade11
You can only hate and hunt the scarlet crusade so long before they're all dead. Now there's just humans, who did turn their backs on the forsaken like her father did to her.
What about Scholomance? The current Lich King? She was dedicated to ENDING the curse of undeath. She was built up her entire life to destroy it, and that was the role she wanted to serve as a forsaken so no one would end up like her.
Seeing Rexxar again and in his full HD glory was a real treat. I know many are upset over some champions of the Horde supporting this war but later down the line they really push for Honor within the Horde as Saurfang would want.
I was hoping this campaign would explain 1. Why the horde seem to dominate the Kul’tiran countryside and possess such strong bases that are way more powerful than anything the Alliance gets on Zandalar 2. Why the alliance even has to go in and help the horde get rid of their old god blood troll problem when it would be far better if we just stayed out of that siht and 3. Why characters that have (lore-wise) never outright declared for the horde/ promised to help the alliance (since the alliance helped them) are now the hordes biggest agents and why the alliance gets no equivalent
Hopefully the next installment will shed some light on this but so far the alliance seems very short handed in this conflict as it seems the Alliance will receive no clear victories b fore he faction conflict shifts out of focus and we go back to magically putting all the hate aside and fighting some old gods again.
Also, how tf is goblin tech suddenly so good (alliance perspective)? What ever happened to the whole gnome vs goblin arms race? I’ve yet to see any gnome make an entrance on a sub-orbital missile while the dwarfs are the only ones pulling their weight with their mole machines. Besides the campaigns involving your gnome operative it seems blizzard is intent in shafting gnome and Draenei tech this expansion
If Blizzard portrayed the Horde as strong as it should be after their disastrous wars at the hands of Garrosh's two Hordes, followed by the subsequent Legion invasion thinning them more, Alliance armies (with actual cities, agricultural means of production to supply their numbers) would be able to walk over the Horde. The Zandalari should be the 'bigger' threat to the Alliance than the rest of the Horde.
But for the sake of the game and the narrative, they're trying to make it equal by giving the Horde any sort of advantage they can think of while making the Alliance have the worst judgement and ignoring any of their pre-existing advantages. If they wanted to make this even, have the Horde be the underdog faction in this scenario. Make them fight smarter, not bigger and bombastic. Hit and run, pick their fights. War on the move, don't meet the Alliance head on. Those instances the Alliance then do catch the Horde forces it becomes a gauntlet of just waves upon waves of Stormwind infantry and Dwarven support.
It's a wasted opportunity that would have worked better in an RTS game than an MMO.
SamuraiMorshu Not really mate. You don't take in consideration the Forsaken, who be themselves could probably steamroll the Alliance, given a capable general. I mean, they are unfair, pretty hard to kill, bio weapons, no need for food, no fatigue... you could march an army of undead day and night with no rest required, that's fucking unfair.
Gobbos have stupidly strong weapons, shit, the only goblin tech that seems to work fine is shit that goes boom.
I agree with your second point though, but it isn't as one-sided as you say. The Horde also has air superiority by a long shot, since Zeppelins are incredibly good, and waves of Alliance blue bois vs waves of horde dead bois would not get far.
Actually in terms of practical damages i think the alliance came up on top in this first chapter of the war campaign. Sure the horde got some incredibly useful intel and a great artifact with which they destroyed the home fleet of kul tiras (what remained before jaina brought it back the real deal). But think of the damage the alliance caused: many high ranking officers killed with little to no casualties, almost got a member of the horde leadership, a good chunk of the zandalari fleet destroyed, again with 0 casualties, as well as an entire battleship of the forsaken sunk by a group of 10 flying dwarfs. Massive disruption of goblin azerite mining operation in zuldazar. A strategic well defended outpost in vol dun that grant the alliance a great starting point, while the horde in stormsong valley got stopped by a half corrupted militia and farmers...
Once again the bois in blue are specialists, while the red guys act without strategy and most importantly without valuing the life of their operatives. In definitive halford wyrmbane has done an incredible job with the limited amount of resources he had. Now we wait for a major morally grey victory of the alliance.
Eraldi Disho undead hard to kill? Some blacksmith dude had his hand fall while raising the hammer. Do you even read the novels?
Ken Kaniff I don't think you do. Not all novels are cannon. You have that story duing the battle for Gilneas, where the forsaken are trying to get through the breach, where this poor commander gets hit by an entire firing squad and gives no fucks.
Gonna go out on a limb and theorize that Garona's just another of the Alliance's innumerable spies. At least, I hope that's the case.
Jaina Proudmoore (After listening to Rexxar reasoning):
Jaina disappears for a moment, then she returns and says to Rexxar:
"Thrall and I were just discussing,
How you and Jenkins, BOTH KNOW NOTHING"
Azerite is conveniently popping up in places where it can lead the two factions into conflict. It avoids popping up in the Barrens or Westfall.
Those lands don't belong to you, Rexxar...
Arathi technically doesn't belong to Trolbane either, but you know...
"jaina has killed one too many" Uh Rexxar, take a look at your warchief buddy.
I am in the belief that mostly everyone that was not present during the battle through Ashenvale and Darkshore is unaware as to how and why this war started in the first place.
It would definetly explain Etrigg and his reasoning for thinking (somehow) that the Alliance being the oppressors.
+JoJo is not an anime And probably still isn't.
by too many he means too many of his kin or halfkin.I doubt he cares about 1 dead human.
Yeah, that one made me do a double-take. As harsh as you may be towards Jaina's close-mindedness as of late, there's not really that much you can fault her for. She may have wanted to slaughter innocents among the Horde at certain points, but she's never gone through with it. She's really only killed a fair amount of the Sunreavers that fought back after the divine bell incident. Banning the Horde from Dalaran doesn't really seem like that big of a deal when compared to what the Horde in general has done since the 4th War.
Hipocricity is strong with Rexxar..
Ahoy pirate mon.
I'd like to point out something from real life that I noticed while playing this expac
The Zandalaris and their culture is based off the ancient Meso-American civilizations(Aztecs, Mayans and Incas)
The Kul'Tarians and their culture is based off the Colonial Naval powers of Europe mainly The Spanish and The Portuguese.
Now This is where it gets really interesting, if WOW is planning to use real life history between these two Cultures to further the story then I feel sorry for the horde because Zandalaris are about to get recked by the Kul'Tarians the same way Aztecs and Mayans got destroyed by the Spanish and Portuguese Conquistadors.
And if you still don't believe me then just look at the Zandalari and Kul'Tarian Storylines, where at the end of it the Zandalaris are in a huge mess while the Kul'Tarians have united and solidified their power, the same situation that the Aztecs and Mayans were in when the Spanish and Portuguese arrived to the new world, and we all know how that story went.
+Emeron j
Blizzard takes influence on almost everything in their games from real world history. Doesn't mean that it follows real life history's direction.
@@xXXArchangellXXx in this case it is, patch 8.1 raid the seige of zuldazar proves my theory
As many have already stated and argumented before (and better than I could), I'm in utter disbelief at how bad the classical Blizzard writing problem of "Too many cool characters, not enough space to do them justice" has got.
I'll never believe Garona saying "Well, I killed a king, maybe I can do it again". THAT EVENT TRAUMATIZED HER! She HATED that moment of her life with all her being! "When extremists question your loyalty, you just do what you are ordered"? Nope! You're Garona, you slit their throats, run into the night, reach Dalaran, talk to Khadgar and litterally DISAPPEAR from the face of tha planet.
I'm NOT OK with the reason given by Rexxar. I could have been if he just said "Them fuckers made it personal" and "joined" by reflex and not thinking it through. He's half Orc (hot headed) half Ogre (bull headed), I can buy a personal reason for vengeance. But he was there at Theramore looking Jaina in the face when she choose to betray her own father and KNEW that she was suffering for that decision, and respected her for the strenght needed to take it.
Fuck this faction war and all it has brought; it has been 14 years of WoW and a grand total of TWENTY FOUR YEARS since the First Warcraft rts for us and who knows how many decades of on and off war in-universe. It's old, it's pointless, it brought out the worse of ... mainly the Horde, because the Alliance it's too "Lawful Good" to be capable of pushing the story forward if there's not the Horde stirring shit up.
I'm officially rooting for the Void Gods at this point.
Rexxar's reasoning is pretty dope. He saw what Jaina did during MoP, and now sees her as the fucking leader of an entire nation. He doesn't know that she has changed (if she has, which I firmly believe), so he must do everything to stop her.
Garona has a point. I mean, she could always stay neutral, but working with the Alliance is off the table. The boys in blue aren't exactly accepting of other races.
Yeah Garona really doesn't have a point. Staying neutral is a perfectly good option that her character would take. They ruined her character just to add more names into the campaign.
Nano LT I agree on this one, especially since Alliance get Brann fucking Bronzebeard and that Rambo dude. Fucking Blizzard and their obvious bias
Nathanos talking about the one queen to rule them all, makes me recall "one ring to rule them all and in the darkness bind them." Sent chills down my spine.
What Rexxars says makes no sense, Jaina didn't kill any civilians after the bombing of Theramore. She even let go of her hate to lead the Kirin Tor, until the Sunreavers broke the neutrality of Dalaran and she arrested them.
Aethas was given a choice: have his people (blood elves, not specifically Sunreavers) massacred on Pandaria...or turn a blind eye.
Pyroblasting people who probably didn't even know what the Divine Bell was is not exactly "arresting"
Aethas could have gone to Jaina and told her what Garrosh had done, they could have found a peaceful solution but he decided to cover it up. Jaina did overreact but she was certainly justified in expelling the Sunreavers.
i know right? aethas acted like the dumbest spineless bitch. he lied to jaina's face then went and lied into lorthemar's face. also its clear that he had zero control over his people, they did whatever shady business they wanted and aethas was totally clueless. nazgrim actually indicated that sunreavers favored Horde the whole time and Aethas just... didnt know. he 100% should've gone to Jaina and idk why he chose to defend people who disregarded him like this
Irene V Ofc the Sunreavers would favor the Horde, they ARE part of the Horde in Dalaran, just not active, but let's stop pretending that the Silver Covenant, or for that matter the Kirin Tor itself is neutral
@@eraldidisho4325 Dalaran is neutral ground.
The Kirin tor was neutral until the Sunreavers broke the neutrality of Dalaran by using Dalaran to stage an attack on Darnassus.
The Silver Covenant favors the Alliance but they didn't break the neutrality of Dalaran.
The Silver Covenant didn't use Dalaran to stage an attack on Orgrimmar after the bombing of Theramore, but when the Alliance get a bell before the Horde the Sunreavers have no problem betraying the trust of the Kirin tor.
if they can remember that Tyjin exists then they better remember that Nazgrel is rotting on Thrallmar.
They did bring back danath trollbane so there may be hope after all
One has to wonder if the uncrowned has an eye on this war or at least on the horde
They have eyes everywhere.
One dark Queen to rule them all,
One dark Queen to find them.
One dark Queen to lure them all,
And in Undeath bind them.
To get the achievement Azeroth at War: Kalimdor on Fire, both horde and alliance have to send their followers out to complete a certain number of missions involving the continuing conflict there. All of these missions, as brutal as they might be, have legitimate military objectives. Except one. The Horde quest Teldrassil Evacuation has no military value. We know that the only elves left on Teldrassil at the time of the attack were innocents. These innocents are now being evacuated to Azuremyst Isle, AWAY from Horde forces. You are sending your troops to murder a PRIESTESS who is helping traumatized evacuees. the rationale for the mission is to 'sow chaos in their ranks.' Do they mean the ranks of refugees? To what end? There is military value in targeting enemy children to keep them from growing up to become soldiers who might appose you. Or raping nuns to show the level of depravity you will sink to agains all those who oppose you. But what do we think of a country that adopts this thinking? At this moment, in this war, it is not just Sylvanas who has come off the rails. Right now, in my opinion, it is pretty clear that the Horde are in fact the bad guys. btw: I have lots of Horde toons. I have had a lot of sympathy the the plight of several of their races. So this isn't a 'For the Alliance' thing. This is about what's right and what's just plain wrong. (I will now step down from my soapbox)
2:48-4:23 thas an awesome campaign! how i play it?? - " That happens off screen, sorry - Blizzard Entertainment"
I doubt Jaina will be too happy when she finds out the horde wants to use the ruins of theramore.
They're really fucking with the character traits of so many famous characters in this xpsc, holy shit.
You are spoiling us, video every day.
So is Rexxar seriously going at this particular time in Kul'Tiras to piss off Jaina? Does he have a Death wish???
Have you ever played against a face hunter?
Two words, Giant Bear.
@@alex_ho Yeah lead Misha against Jaina and tell me the outcome....Animal cruelty at Best.
@@thehermit8723 2 words, Mauled Mage.
You dont believe me? Pitting them together is like pitting a Beast Master Hunter against a Frost Mage, both are extremes of their own caliber, but honestly, Jaina can only do so much in a 1v1, and that's the thing, Rexxar have more than Misha, but Misha can tank a shit ton of frost bolts into its thick ass hide, this dude took blows from Admiral Daelin and many more.
Lore wise there is no contest here, Jaina would trounce Rexxar in a 1v1, and you should get this from the game as well.
In the Jailbreak scenario at the start of BFA you have a group consisting of Talissra, Zul, Talanji, Nathanos, Rokhan and a horde champion, and Zul the one that sees the future acknowledges that if this group battled Jaina they would probably loose, so they had to distract her by setting Stormwind on fire ....
In lore Jaina is one of the most powerful mortal mages at the moment somewhere just bellow of Kadgar ... In lore Rexxar would get his ass whipped.
Eitrigg being scared of witches makes me wonder what kind of shit he has seen or herd in the past to make him fear them so much. I do not blame him ofcourse, Drustvar is a scary place filled with scary things.
hearing that there are still night elves coming out of the tree actually makes me think we might get some variant of a flaming night elf....
I’m still waiting for the big reveal that some force is manipulating Horde forces. Because honestly there is just too much out of character with little to questionable explanations. It would be a great story element. Have who/ whatever it is start small with Garry and then slowly over time too remain unnoticed start afflicting others in the Horde as well.
Spoiler alert: that force has a name: Chris Metzen.
Blizzard has stated that Garrosh was not corrupted and that he did it out of his own will. Honestly an Old God corruption is the only way I can see this explained at this point.
Paul Houx, no, Metzen wrote the horde well, Afrasabi and Kosak are the ones who write them as evil assholes because they have no respect for Warcraft 3.
Nathan's dialogue here pretty much justifies the Wrathgate
16:15 "And at long last, there will be but one queen to rule them all." Ist Sylvanas jetzt Sauron? ^^
I’m very conflicted... Rexxar swore with Thrall to spare Jaina’s people. Is he breaking that oath or did Jaina?
I dint get why Garrona would help the Horde in this. Considering her history, and what Sylavanas is doing, would it not make far more sense for her to support the Alliance?
And Rexxar saying Jaina have killed too many? Thats quite ironic.
Wasn't Cromush a Garrosh fanboy before? I remember him mostly from cataclysm.
If Sylvanas is getting the Cersei Lannister type treatment, I wonder if Nathanos will be like Jaime. I wonder if he'll get a huge character arc, and a lot of development. Probably a lot ot expect of the lore of WoW, but it'd be interesting.
Not really, sylvanas never fucked her brother and had 3 of his kids xD
Lol, I was almost gonna say except no incest, but I thought that was a given. :P
Maybe if they'd go with Sylvanas actually being morally grey (and not just evil for the sake of evil), then we'd not have a few inconsistencies with characters explicitly siding with Sylvanas despite their own storyline so far. it would actually be having to choose between loyalty and honor. Instead, we get Lilian Voss sudennly going 180, Garona having one line of dialogue to "explain" her serving Sylvanas, Eitrigg acting like Horde is honorable despite his warchief being the opposite of that (Mag'Har intro questline) and Rexxar serving a Garrosh 2.0 despite him hating what Garrosh did.
I really don't agree with adding neutralish-Horde characters to the Horde for the sake of the rule of cool.
How does the Horde know that Alliance went to Kul Tiras?
So at the moment Nathanos has the same rank with Rexxar?Because Rexxar is champion of the horde and Nathanos champion of the Banshee Queen which means champion of the warchief so they both are supposed to be champions of the horde right?
It seems the Horde didn't take the hint when I had that barbecue in their base in Stromsong.
Oh the next one is going to be Juicy.
I would love to learn more about nathaous do you have a video?
Is Garona beeing honest do? Or does she just tries to gain Nathanos trust?
+Nobbel
Is there any news on Gilneas? Has Gilneas been completely reclaimed for Genn Greymane? Does he have his home back?
Afaik last we hear is from the follower missions as in Horde & Ally are still fighting over it.
Ah, thanks for the reply. Hopefully, he will able to have his home back, if only momentarily.
Or at least get some kind of mission there with him, that would be so cool. I can only imagine the dialogue he would deliver being back in his homeland, where his people are from and where his son fell.
I swear everytime these two talk … there are some innuendos there. like at @5:12 when she says "To me" like an emphasis. he has to bow and wish her safe journey... like.... *nudge, wink* and a *kiss* there!!! ;)
The implication of Etrig being scared of witches means that Etrig has encountered witches before. I want to know THAT story!
Thats almost miserable for someone like rexxar to be become a follower he should be taking names at his own leisure.
Is it me or does Sylvanas sound different ingame than in cutscenes etc?
I had to transfer over to the Horde to raid with a friend of mine and I'm really not enjoying the Horde story there's just too much blatant ignorance of past events and character development.
Victory for the Alliance !!!And death for the Horde!!!!!!!!!!!
I find it interesting she is willing to repeat history again!
???
wow when he read the quest texts at the beginning I have counted so many crimes that can be added to lich queen sin encounter,coming for you sylvanas with a mountain tall war crimes list.
Rexxar in a cinematic would be great!
we need more Rexxar
much more
like putting him in a Cinematic
Yeah sure. Like when Jaina or Catherine Proudmoore kill him :)
I mean, can Blizzard NOT do the whole "WE ARE EVIL GUIZE!" For one fucking second?
Finally got my Mag'har but now i have to lvl from 20-120 XD i'm going to be so behind and not to mention all the rep grinding again
Why does garona not have drenai eyes?
Rexxar is one loyal badass! I love him!
Hmm sylvanas with the ring of power? I wish I could see that lol.
I'm. Getting the expansion soon should I spoil the Lord for me or experience it idk cause I'm curious
dont waste your money
Sooo.... we talk to a table and send followers on a mission of epic proportions to change the fate of settlements, villages, towns and cities that we've known for years throughout Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms. Meanwhile, we "champions" get to kill 12 boars and gather supplies to repair a canon.
Who is the champion and who is the gopher?
I don't get why the best stories either happen in books or in follower missions.
Hope Rexxar and Jaina is gonna meet now
Not gonna be nice meeting. ^^
@S. F. P. so he has to lay a freezing trap? Ey?
Where were you Rexxar when Vol'jin led the rebellion against garrosh
so Garona must be REALLY old now
Nope. Got to stop you there and thanks for saving Drustvar for last. I am not watching anything with Gallywix in it, so I can safely escape. Besides it was hard enough playing through it (I am done with ALL the current Horde story content) and while his schtick is blessedly brief I am terrified for what might come next! Can't wait for you to grit through the rest of Horde campaign for the story content!
CryingBuddha if you want the story to get better you gotta unsub.
i did the two war campaign thingies where you establish a foothold in kultiras and thought i could continue the war campaign at lvl 120 but now that i hit it theres no new quest for it anywhere. please help a noob out.
After you get a foothold in all 3 locations it's nothing but rep grinding for the next mission to unlock.
@@TheAssirra thats the thing tho the quest for the third foothold doesnt even pop up.
@@TheAssirra if i need to rep grind there too please tell me how to do so since theres no world quests and stuff yet.
What you need to do to progress the war campaign actually shows on your map. Open your map and then look in the top right corner and there should stand "War Campaign" in the top right. Note that this only works when the map is not full screen since you need the questlog.
Wow, the horde war story in this is the worst shit I've ever seen. I wish they give better reasons for Rexxar and Garona, but what's done is done.
So Thalyssra has recruited an outlander to our cause, are we truly that Desperate? Very well, I am Val-TWA, VALTWA, TWA, The r is silent... nevermind call me whatever, Arcanist, ValTWA, TWA, I am VALTWA
Nice Noobel :D
Horde doing what the horde does best.Genocide
Jealous?
Not at all i just think horde are vile and that any semblance of honor they did have after Garrosh is now gone.
but is this a morally gray game amirite?
Its about to considering either Jaina is going to do some bad shit or more likely Tyrande because of what they did to the tree.
but somehow the alliance still evil
The Horse really annoys me, considering themselves the good guys while calling the actually good guys evil, just to justify their own evil actions. The hypocricy is strong within the Horde.
Hypocrisy is there and alive with the Alliance as well. It doesn't take much to find, the only difference is the Alliance doesn't acknowledge when it happens in the narrative and goes about their merry ways.
All those "great horde heroes" that joins you as followers and such, it would be so much better narratively if it would happen after Sylvanas is dealt with... All of them serving Sylvanas doesn't make much sense.
What if Saurfang was the leader of the horde now or something? I think it would've made much better sense.
Rexxar is actually 1/4 orge.
Another example of Blizzard poor writing skill... Making neutral character to be in the Horde for poor reason.
Dark Ladies??? Thats raysist!!!!
WHY IS GAMORA ?
They're already fucking characters up and that's making me sad. They didn't start fucking up legion lore until at least halfway through. These are *leveling zones* and they're already like "hey ya know what would be cool? If Gorona for some reason decided the horde was her home! Also if Rexxar showed up randomly after radio silence for how long? Yah good idea."
I really didn't want old god influence to be a major factor here, but maybe because it's N'zoth he can more easily bend mortals wills and everything will stop being this weird version of wow where the alliance is the only side with any kind of decent character development once we defeat him.
Sylvanas once said to Saurfang:
"Honor means nothing to a corpse!"
But wat nathanos said to Zul:
"It is an honor to serve my queen"
.... so it is meaningless for him to serve sylvanas? Dont get me wrong im a big fan of the horde and sylvanas but some shit they do, i just dont get it
What Sylvanas said is true. But you are taking it too literally. What use does honor give you when you are dead? All it does is make your death look pretty and in times of war, honor serves as a hindrance rather than a boon.
nathanos is really awesome imo
Eh. He is at least getting better
razvan tudor Once he stops being a White Knight for Sylvanas I’ll start liking him.
ULTRA MEHREEN Yeah. If he stops getting Pussy whipped by Sylvanas he would actually be able to become more likeable
by being pussy you mean being loyal? but why wouldnt he be loyal after everything she's done for him? also he has nowhere to go anyway
Rexxar for Warchief.
At this point, even Gallywix would be better than the current one.
@@krupam0 Aint Galywix part of the reason why Sylvanas even went to war with the Alliance?
Hello, Nobbel.I know this comment is unrelated to this video, but I still want to say it in a place I hope you will see it. I was browsing your channel the other day, and I realized you have no videos on Thrall's story that I see (I just searched "Thrall" in your channel-specific search bar).You have videos on other characters related to Thrall, and videos with Thrall lore in them, but no videos directly about Thrall.This may be intentional, and if so, that's fine, but if not, I wanted to bring that to your attention.
As well as that, I was curious if you would be able to gather together enough information on where Thrall is now to deserve it's own video, as I am curious what in the world he thinks about the mess the world has become in his absence.
Thral is a huge char that I def want to cover...at some point! If you want to hear what we know last about thrall, I'd suggest the story of the shaman order hall campaign/ Doomhammer artifact questline
Instead of forcing Garona to be a part of the horde, you could simply give her to Alliance and take Valeera back in the horde. Varian is dead, nobody likes blood elves in the alliance, now it is full of void elves and bigotry... I still don't understand why they are forcing Valeera to be an alliance fangirl and Garona to struggle fitting in to horde.
*shrugs*
Lol all this stuff that your followers are doing in azeroth sounds like fun shit to do as an actual pvp encounters
Lol Jaina let Rexxar kill her father and now he wants to simply slay her just ‘cause? I hope he dies in a scenario, lol.
BUT GARONA HALFORCEN IS IN MY FUKING GARRISON, WHAT IS SHE DOING HERE?
GARONA, YOU ARE OUT OF DUTY, GET BACK TO DRAENOR NOW
rant over
unless this one is the pre-WOD Garona, in which case, i'm confused, she was friends with Anduin wasn't she?
Once again Blizzard giving piss poor half excuses for why Horde members like Rexxar do what they do. I would have been fine if he went back into hiding after Legion but Blizzard had to keep him relevant and make him an idiot.
how i see BFA is that characters need to chose a faction, it is a faction war. so imo pretty obvious that Rexxar and Garona chose the horde, don't think they ll be welcome in the alliance and if they where I don't think ppl would trust them there.
Rexxar fighting for the Horde makes sense, sure,his reasoning for doing though doesn't.He can't possibly say that Jaina went to far while fighting for Sylvanas
Garona just doesn't make sense, she has always been neutral(being mind controlled doesn't count)
sure i agree that there reasonings dont make sense. but i guess that atm you cant have a neutral party.
Yeeaaa ... Rexxar needs to go, doesn't show when the Horde was being torn apart by Garrosh; yet rallies to Sylvanas and makes Jaina his scapegoat why? /boggles
Garona working for the horde? that's so bs right there
Nathanos baby
Yo i don't even play this shit but i love the story and without nobbel idk if they'd have a potential customer like they do hahaah
finaly for the horde
I hate how once again the followers get some intresting things at the start -_-
I hate Nathanos and have had a bad feeling about him since he was introduced. Something just is not right about him.
Of course not.
He hasn't been right since classic.
I don’t understand why people saying Garona should work for Stormwind and the Alliance. Uh, guys do you realize she killed their king? She has no home left but the Horde now. She was friend with Llane, not his Grandson. As for Rexxar, he fought Kul Tirans and they were the ones who attacked the New Horde at Durotar as far as I remember. Eitrigg, Rexxar and others are fighting for the Horde, not just Sylvanas because Vol’jin choosed her, they are probably respecting Vol’jin’s decision of making Sylvanas Warchief. As for Lilian, she is also a Forsaken, she has no one but the Horde now. Horde is a place where bunch of Races are trying to survive, a family, while Alliance is more diplomatic, trading Faction. Eitrigg, Garona, Lilian and Rexxar are fighting for the Horde, you guys should accept the facts and move on.
Lilian had no one but the Horde in Cata and MoP but still abandoned them and went on a massive killing spree, so no, she should not be here.
i dont see why Wouldnt Anduin forgive her, he would at least try to talk to her, the comics are no longer canon, but his attitude is the same
Zhade Bell She was confused at first, like all Forsaken she disgusted herself and this curse but later on she found her own cause to fight for the Horde.
Always angry Imagine killing a King and try to live on their city. The new King may forgive you, but what would the people think about you? Even if King ordered civilians to be kind over to her, she would be always disgusted by someone because she is a Kingslayer. Jaime Lannister wasn’t a bad person while killing Aegon Targaryen, he did this for the greater good but always hated by Ned Stark for this act.
Ok.. Lemme see if i can get my head around your reasoning..
Horde members torment me my whole life growing up, eventually even use mindcontrol to make me do something i REALY REALY REALY didn't want to do towards my friends. So now i might aswell just join them to kill the whole faction of my friends?... And Garona calling the Horde her Home after this is just absurd. Both by the way they have treated her in the past and also the fact that she's half dranei with makes Horde 50% her home at absolute best.
And comparing it to GoT isn't valid imo since King Lane wasn't a mad King planning to kill the whole City. He was defending it and it's innocent citizens from an Alien aggressor wanting nothing but bloodshed and conquest. Another difference is that noone knows the truth about why Jamie did what he did. Jamie acted out of honor and a wish to save the people.. OBVIOUSLY Garona didn't. It's a completely different situation.
Also Rexxar being all in because of Jaina going "To far" makes no sence.. What has she done besides helping in the assault of Lordaeron... After the Horde (Even if garrosh was in control he wasn't alone in the act) Destroyed Theramore and now Sylvanas burns down Teldrassil.. He was portraid as a man of so much honor that he couldn't stand by the horde and left for the wilds but now the honor is on the horde side after 2 sneakattacks whose goal was more or less just to main and kill..
Jaina has only acted in response to being betrayed and/or being assaulted first.. Alliance is not the honorless one here, You can even ask Saurfang about that.
I get you wanna fanboy for your faction but atleast use sensible arguments.
The alliance bias is real. Such black&white storytelling of the horde now being the "bad guys" and everyone great/knowable on the horde is just being made into completely different characters to fit the mold of the (awful) story :(
The more I read into the warcraft lore, the more shitty it gets. How the fuck is that even possible?
Still wondering where Garona's son with medivh went...
I dont remember scouting jack shit
Dude go finish Uldir instead of making vids
"The Story of The Horde War Campaign"
A bunch of filthy mud-hut dwelling monsters acting like filthy mud-hut dwelling monsters, as usual.
Dont you dare talk shit about our mud huts.
adamaj
I expected Alliance dogs to be here
adamaj Funny because we have 2 Elven Cities and a Golden City now.
And yet the Alliance still loses, hmm.
Assirra Sometimes maybe, but again, we're not unscrupulous monsters, undead, orcs, trolls, tauren...o.g. horde...monsters...evil...enemy of all that is good.
Jesus the writing for BFA is GARBAGE
Metal Otaku Banzai what do you expect it's blizzard I mean im still pissed how the ended StarCraft on one of the most disappointing ending ever made.