Next is keefe and his entire coaching staff. We are absolutely brutal in the neutral zone. Offensively we dump and chase the majority of the time through the middle ice. Defensively we have no pressure or system in place through the middle ice, we back up and give the blue line up and let the other team establish a strong attack which puts pressure on our goalie.
If Keefe is going to bench the 4th line center, one of the best PK players because of a pass that led to the tyiing goal! Then the message he sent was its okay to give away pucks, take bad penalties , float around, and you play on the top two lines you are safe from any accountability or be held responsibility!! If that is case and point then Keefe should stay at home enjoy the family considered this a benching for not holding the higher paid players accountable responsible for turn overs , missed assignments, not calling time outs when they have given up leads! Not willing to vent any displeasure of players or how they are playing ! While during the game !
*their* Their defense was one of the best last year. Keefe has no control over personnel. When Lillygrin is on the second pair, no amount of coaching will solve anything.
This is a decision we've all been looking for. Now, scratch Marner for a game. His giveaway last night was inexcusable. Hopefully Keefe's job is on the chopping block as well.
Won't happen Reilly Brodie Bertuzzi Nylander Mathews McCabe unfortunately are the Sacrate cows that are untouchable. They would get away with any of this under Cooper Bowness Torts Lavelatte Brindemore Tochette
I don't see how scratching Marner for a game or two will change anything at all. This team doesn't respond much to wake up calls and it seems like the only thing that will truly change this team is a major trade or two involving Marner, Matthews or Nylander. If this core can't get it done in this year's playoffs then not much you can do except trading a major piece to shake things up.
Comments here are spot on. The leaf’s lack of defensive structure is on the coach. Sammy is a great goalie, I hope he gets his confidence back and the leafs don’t rush him back.
Samsonov is a good goalie...at best. That's all they can afford because they are so salary top heavy with 5 guys chewing up almost $50 million on a $82 million salary cap. Things will never change unless Tavares( love the guy) restructures his contract and frees up some cap space because he's not worth $ 12 million a season
It's been evident in every start after Samsonov's 4-0 win over Nashville, where his mates held the Preds to just 18 SOG that Samsonov has looked wrong. He was even jumpy in that shut-out, which was the 1st game of the Leaf's fathers weekend. He simply looks like a guy who is lost & you can't have him working out his issues in the Leaf net even if only sporadically. He's a solid human, but he needs to go to the AHL & play until he regains his mojo. I hope they give Hildeby a few games backing up Jones to see what he's got before Woll gets back.
That's the issue with toronto. It's a media heavy town. The last thing they want is boring, slow, defensive hockey. It's why they brought Babcock. It's what he did with Detroit. But they didn't let him add that element because it's not as exciting as flashy goal scoring. It's sad but I'd more expect them to swap Sammy's 3 mil for a decent goalie if the beast isn't ready. Make woll the cheaper starter. Then maybe trade Tavares for cap space or encourage early retirement to be an office manager who sees his kids more. Then trade either mitch or willy for Connor McDavid by making him believe there's no cup available for the oilers in his future.
You cannot depend on the goalie to stand in his head and bail you out every night. The overall team defence is just horrible, as they all sell out for the offensive end.
@Dylandontplay I agree completely, I still feel for the guy though. A second team passes you along in just a few years. He's brutal to watch but the talent is there
If you worked like him at your job you would've been fired months ago. Not given 4 months to work it out and have no production. 1 good day out of 4 months. It's funny how grown men feel sorry for a guy who makes millions to play a game for privileged white people. 93%white.
This is not a goaltending problem, this is a Leafs defence SUCKS problem . I watched 3 Leafs chase a Columbus player behind the net and leave an open man in front of the net. Furthermore, i watched a columbus player screening and tormenting Sammy while 2 Leafs defence picked there nose . For Sammy's sake, hes better off leaving this joke of an organisation. I think Shanny, treliving and Keefe should be plavced on waivers for this crap !! I'd bet a fortune that Sammy moves to another team and does just fine!!
W.E. pull your head out of your ass "bro". Not saying Sammy has no fault , but any goalie would suck if you had this team infront of them. Just like many in the past !! This crap organisation blood sucks the confidence out of there goalies by putting sub par defence on the ice. @@STONE69_
I agree 100%. This team has respectable stats offensively. Here's the thing; If you score 5 goals but lose 6-5 or score 6 goals but lose 7-6 what does it matter?!? Stop blaming Samsonov who came into this job with some integrity. Admittedly, he is troubled right now. I wouldn't be surprised if he went somewhere else and became a Leaf killer but that isn't going to serve the Leaf's defensive issues. If you had players actually coached on HOW to play defense, how to finish their assignments, how to block shots it would IMMEDIATELY elevate the performance/confidence of the goalie behind them. It's simple math! It's difficult not to name names but there is one defenseman that CONSISTENTLY screws up. I think he would lead the NHL for assists however they would be assists for the opposition! And yet, he gets played on PPs!?!?!?! That identifies issues not restricted to defense. It reminds me of the guy working on his golf swing. He has a horrible swing and he keeps practicing it!! He needs his swing FIXED, not ingrained! Sadly, "THE captain must go down with the ship", and I don't mean Tavares. If there was a Poke-Check award, the Leafs would OWN it! Their D has HORRENDOUS fundamentals....and whomever you put behind them in the pipes is going to get DESTROYED!! Let's blame Samsonov, then Jones, then Woll, then Hildeby, then..... Here's wishing Samsonov all the best, where-ever he goes. Hopefully he will have a D in front of him.
Why do so many commentators talk about jones like he 'might be able to be the back-up'? He's a very solid back up who is keeping us in games behind a terrible defence and coach. LOOK at his record in the past.
This is the same problem we've had for the last 10 years, we are offensive team that is way to soft defensively and by the way..dont even have a number 1 goalie!!!
he aint getting fired and they wont who will replace him no one there aint no one who can do a better job than him sammy is in a slump and toronto maple leafs has tired everything with sammy
Yes, there are lots of good coaches out there that would make the core 4 accountable. Keefe doesn't have the stones to sit out the REAL defensive liabilities on this team, David Kampf is not the reason. Scratch Keefe.
@@kaptinkuntry3092 they won’t that’s the thing they won’t everyone put blame on him but yet he has the best record with the leafs yea he doesn’t bench the core 4 but who would no coach will do that reason why we can’t have good player play in Toronto is Becuz people like you and the media so no one wants to play here I’m still surprised the core 4 hasn’t left yet but when they do oh boy no more playoff but wait they can make the playoffs but wait they can’t win the cup and they will never win it anyways they had a clear shot in the bubble to do it and couldn’t they could of last year and could and blah blah blah you don’t bench the core 4 ever no coach will do and no coach has ever done it Becuz it won’t be a good out come use you dam head the coach ain’t the problem it’s the players trying spin move and dangle bullshit crap
The Toronto Maple Leaf's are like Stan Mikita's Chicago Blackhawks, full of talent didn't play as a team and only won one Stanley cup. You build a team from the back end forward.
he was always too busy in his crease and often lost it all together. There is a NHL tender in there but he has bad habits to break. He needs to go to a team that can work with him. The team defence has consequences and its usually its the tenders that crack.
Is that why no other team claimed him for free, the Caps didn't qualify him, and the leafs wouldn't commit long term? I won't even try to defend the defense but he had a much better defense in Washington and it didn't help
I thought it was the second gamble Dubas made that off season and neither worked in the end. My comment about the team defence is more about the continued cycle the leafs have had in their crease. Samsonov is just another one to stumble/ be replaced. @@bradybeijes3232
Unfortunately, Kyle failed to address goaltending when he was here. The chickens have come home to roost. The best years of the big three are being wasted.
Prior to the trade deadline last season, I said the Leafs needed to trade for a goalie. To win a seven game series, your goalie has got to be able to win one game that you don't deserve to win. Samsonov will never do that for you. He'll lose a game you deserve to win though. I predict we have seen the last game Samsonov ever plays in the NHL.
The only message has been sent that if you are a top 6 player give up the puck in neutral zone in your end and in the offensive end, are the highest paid players you are excused will not be held responsible accountable and as long the offensive numbers can over shadow those defencies you have nothing to worry about. As for the bottom 6 and making league mininum slightly above well make sure you dont miss a flop pass in the others team end. Oh and as for line changes when the puck is going tje other thats okay to change a 5 players and leave the goaltender to fend for himself!
The Leafs must have a deal cooking .They would not waive him unless they have a replacement ready to go .Maybe brining in Marc Andre Fleury from the Wild ?? I would love to see that .Fleury is 39 but has 3 Cup rings and a ton of playoff experience .Perfect mentor for young Woll I think .Minny is probably going to miss palyoffs anyway so they might as well get a prospect .I guess we will wait and see when Samsonov clears waivers tomorrow ( he will most definitly clear ,no other team is touching that $3.8 mill contact)
Or Wolls nearing return, or they want Hildeby to come up for now and get a look, or sign Halak, I'd say those are more likely then a trade, and they would waive him to save cap, get him games in the AHL to rebuild confidence, and because putting him in net is basically giving away 2 points right now, a fish could flop around like he's been and still make more saves🤣😂🤣
From before the beginning of the last season and is a hockey fan knew they needed back end defense and in goal . But hey they signed all there money away on the first second line .
Samsonov likely suffering PTSD from playing behind the likes of Brodie for 20 minutes a game for way to long. Fucking guy is never where he needs to be and couldn't block a shot to save his goddamn life. All he does is watch Leaf games and sometimes jump in to screen his own goaltenders for 5.25mill a yr. I wish Sammy a speedy recovery.
While we can't put it all on the goalie, all we need do it look at the team record when ANYONE else was in nets for them compared to when Samsonov was in nets...pretty obvious difference. Samsonovs reactions looked almost delayed at times...it almost appeared like he was letting in an extra or two per game purposely
This seasons looking like it might resemble the 2019 - 2020 season a lot for the Leafs in the sense there was about 20 - 30 games left in the season & it was a dogfight for 3rd in the Division. This will probably be a season where the Leafs will struggle to make the Playoffs, let alone do anything once they get there They better not go All In at the Deadline as they don't have Elite Defence or Goaltending & you need at least 1 of those to go along with their Elite defence to be a Cup Contender. With how Alright their Defence is the team really needs a Top Goalie to make up for that & they don't have anything like that.
TML is where goalie careers go to die. The Leafs aren't just cursed, they curse anyone that joins that team. The lucky few that make it out before that end up winning a cup.
How's it going Nick.. Wow, they did it eh.. It's time though man. And no doubt it's the best thing for Sammy and definitely for the team. As Kypreos said a couple weeks back, it's no longer fair on the team. They kept their opponent's down to basically 20 shots in a game just recently and still lost. It cannot get any clearer.. Well, let's hope this is the beginning of some very important changes that the Leaf's make across the roster. Because at the moment, this team doesn't look in anyway ready to make a statement in the playoffs. The next few weeks/months should be quite interesting.. Anyway, thanks for the update and I'll see ya tomorra
A lot of people think Joseph Woll is the savior but he's a year ahead of schedule. This guy is still a rookie and to put all this pressure on his back at this point is a crap shoot. His injury could affect his play, I think he has been awesome but it's not a guarantee that he's the answer.
The only reason i think Brad hasn't traded sammy is because every time he thinks about it, it comes with fear of getting into a tukka rask situation where sammy gets disgustingly good again as soon as he moves
I don't think that was the case at all. Given the way he is playing who would want him? Given his cap hit I don't believe anyone will claim him??? Perhaps the Leafs may claim Eric Comrie if Samosonov gets claimed?
@laurarebel6282 I don't disagree. But let's be honest. The leafy thing to happen would be sending him to Montreal or Ottawa aka a rival team that needs anything. Then all of a sudden he's 2023 playoff sammy again.
Marner gives away the puck night after night and Keefe's solution is scratching Kampf. With any luck Keefe will get fired. Giordano is back. However Keefe will now run him into the ground with way to much playing time.
Remember when Leaf Nation was laughing at Oilers fans when they demoted Campbell? Oilers are now 12--3 in their last 15 games...Skinner is NUMBER 1 in WINS and 2nd in SHUTOUTS since Nov.11....Pickard the new back up is 2--1 and looks like an NHL goalie....AND in the AHL they have a kid named Rodrigue that has a league leading .942 Sav%....Thanks for caring. Happy New Year.
Most leaf fans were not happy about Soup getting demoted, we loved the guy here in Toronto. Edmonton is also a good choice in the playoffs when the Leafers go down round one but they like the leafs just are not gritty enough to go to the finals.Let’s hope I’m wrong ( for both teams)
@@eugenesaxe8579Soupy was/is quite popular with his team mates in Edmonton. ...and again in Bakerfield. In fact the coaches RAVED about his positive attitude. That's what makes you want to see him do well, but he takes everything extremely personally. Stu Skinner is a huge fan. He has said so many time's.....In favy he vredits him for helping him get used to the NHL...... Now he is in Bakersfield....and his much younger partner Olivier Rodrigue has a .942 Sav%....That is 2 younger goalies that Soupy has mentored and turned out very good, Maybe we all have this whole Soupy thing wrong?
Whatever team claims him off waivers will need to score at least 6 goals per game to win. He’s the perfect tank and rebuild goaltender. He’s a good dude but he can’t compete at the top tier.
Now place the coach on waivers. This team’s defence is brutal. Team often not ready to play. Time for a fresh voice in the locker room, someone with proper systems.
The coach needs to mix his combinations of lines. Domi and Marner looked good in one game but they are kept apart. Coach keeps going with same combination and apart from Matthews, the rest are not good at playing a defensive game. They need to improve goaltending as well as they need a couple of good defensemen. It will be hard but the GM needs to earn his pay.
The only way for the leafs to move forward is to trade one of the big forwards (perhaps a sign and trade for Nylander) to get a top defender to anchor the blue line, and somehow to get at least a competent NHL goalie, their goalie situation right now is a complete dumpster fire
I'm disappointed. Not surprised, but disappointed. They refuse to lay the blame where it deserves to go, and Ilya Samsonov is the scapegoat, put on waivers because they don't want to blame the ABYSMAL play of the "defense."
You can fault the defensive style, however, the issue is Samsonov’s play. His movements are too large and he seems to loose track of pucks far too easy. Most of the goals he’s let by are low danger, routine saves. He’ frequently out of position which makes his excessive movement even larger. He needs time away from the show to work on his technique.
The Leafs should put ShanaPLAN Shanahan on waivers. Doesn't ShanaPLAN Shanahan bless every move the GM makes? When will he be held accountable? How has the big 3 moves made by "Shanny's" GM panned out?
Keefe has run his time out with this team. He can’t coach these players. They will do absolutely nothing with him behind the bench. This is going to be another lost season
Now Fire Keefe and 2024 will be great!!!!! Sammy can’t stop a beach ball. Leafs problem last 7 years is the goalie. They never had shutdown goalie after Cujo. This is why they can’t win those games. Defense sucks. Trade Marner or put him on waivers next please
Same shit different pile, when you choose Kile over Lou a guy with 3 cups that believe s in defense and goaltending, this is what you get. They dont get going they could miss the playoffs which may not be a bad thing, I wanted change after the Montreal seies Defense wins championships.
What ails the Leafs are too many to list.The D leaders have regressed and weren’t great to begin with.The forward group are soft expensive and lazy.The opportunity to right the ship past last spring and now AMs talent will be wasted, until the team is balanced.
This is a toronto thing. They let good talent twist in the wind for years and years without properly developing them or coaching them. This is a coaching failure. All of these issues should have been struggled with last July. It is time to humble the management and coaching staff there.
Keefe is too soft. The players don't fear him at all. When he calls someone out he later apologizes. When you do that you lose all credibility.
Next is keefe and his entire coaching staff.
We are absolutely brutal in the neutral zone.
Offensively we dump and chase the majority of the time through the middle ice.
Defensively we have no pressure or system in place through the middle ice, we back up and give the blue line up and let the other team establish a strong attack which puts pressure on our goalie.
they wont fire him and i hope they dont if they do say good bye to playoff hope
If Keefe is going to bench the 4th line center, one of the best PK players because of a pass that led to the tyiing goal! Then the message he sent was its okay to give away pucks, take bad penalties , float around, and you play on the top two lines you are safe from any accountability or be held responsibility!!
If that is case and point then Keefe should stay at home enjoy the family considered this a benching for not holding the higher paid players accountable responsible for turn overs , missed assignments, not calling time outs when they have given up leads! Not willing to vent any displeasure of players or how they are playing ! While during the game !
@@tsmhav9233 but the goalie coach has to go at this point, no?
true but you cant bench 4 core they tired and didnt work look they benched him and only 2 goals in if they didnt 5 goals in @@Loyster14
plus who else would they of benched the 4th line is a shut down line thats what they do shut down line @@Loyster14
As a former goalie I hate to see it. He was so solid last year, but this year he looked off. He never seemed to get his head back in the game.
Keefe FIRED NOW
We can only hope…. Personally for me its Shanny first, he is the moron behind this garbage
then what? ....you might of missed it, but he does have one of the highest winning records currently in the NHL
@@tedebayer1So did Bruce Boudreau. These guys are not playoff coaches.
@@tedebayer1 The highest winning record until the playoffs. Keefe must go.
Joel Quinnville
was thinking the same thing.
@@theroadnottaken9378 too bad he is suspended, id want him too my first choice for a coach
WHEN DOES SHANNY TAKE ANY RESPONSIBILITY
When we stop paying attention and profits go down. So...never.
Keefe has to go..there defense is so bad..zero accountability..same mistakes..7 yrs..still ssme..wtf going on there..
TOTALLY AGREE. 👍
They were doing pretty good with woll. Andersen was a beast and Campbell. Played well originally. Or do you have selective memories.
You do know that the manager is the one that controls the roster right?
*their*
Their defense was one of the best last year. Keefe has no control over personnel. When Lillygrin is on the second pair, no amount of coaching will solve anything.
They lost so much speed. They have change their playing style.
Defense you say? How do you do that with half the cap gone to 4 players.. Insanity
Never made sense to me either.
This is a decision we've all been looking for. Now, scratch Marner for a game. His giveaway last night was inexcusable. Hopefully Keefe's job is on the chopping block as well.
Won't happen
Reilly Brodie Bertuzzi Nylander Mathews McCabe unfortunately are the Sacrate cows that are untouchable.
They would get away with any of this under Cooper Bowness Torts Lavelatte Brindemore Tochette
Marner is a Giveaway machine, just watch him next game ,easy to see. Superstar my Arese
@@gregcushing1716 I'm with ya.
100%. Let the little prick sit until he dummies up.
I don't see how scratching Marner for a game or two will change anything at all. This team doesn't respond much to wake up calls and it seems like the only thing that will truly change this team is a major trade or two involving Marner, Matthews or Nylander. If this core can't get it done in this year's playoffs then not much you can do except trading a major piece to shake things up.
Comments here are spot on. The leaf’s lack of defensive structure is on the coach. Sammy is a great goalie, I hope he gets his confidence back and the leafs don’t rush him back.
Samsonov is a good goalie...at best. That's all they can afford because they are so salary top heavy with 5 guys chewing up almost $50 million on a $82 million salary cap. Things will never change unless Tavares( love the guy) restructures his contract and frees up some cap space because he's not worth $ 12 million a season
Samsonov is a terrible goalie. I have know idea what your watching, his save percentage is second worst in the league, out of about 80, goaltenders.
A great goalie? That's the stupidest thing I've read today.
Only a Russian would think he is a great goaly..
Anyone think this could have cap implications with fingers crossed a big trade on the way.
Yeah, for a goalie!
Who?
@@pajamatime5750the real problem is I don't think there are to many high level difference makers available.
It's been evident in every start after Samsonov's 4-0 win over Nashville, where his mates held the Preds to just 18 SOG that Samsonov has looked wrong. He was even jumpy in that shut-out, which was the 1st game of the Leaf's fathers weekend. He simply looks like a guy who is lost & you can't have him working out his issues in the Leaf net even if only sporadically. He's a solid human, but he needs to go to the AHL & play until he regains his mojo. I hope they give Hildeby a few games backing up Jones to see what he's got before Woll gets back.
I truly hope they fire Keefe now. They desperately need fresh ideas and a new voice. We need a defensive style coach.
I agree , been saying it for years now lol he lost the room and has no balls
And the way he calls out players is total bs.
That's the issue with toronto. It's a media heavy town. The last thing they want is boring, slow, defensive hockey. It's why they brought Babcock. It's what he did with Detroit. But they didn't let him add that element because it's not as exciting as flashy goal scoring. It's sad but I'd more expect them to swap Sammy's 3 mil for a decent goalie if the beast isn't ready. Make woll the cheaper starter. Then maybe trade Tavares for cap space or encourage early retirement to be an office manager who sees his kids more. Then trade either mitch or willy for Connor McDavid by making him believe there's no cup available for the oilers in his future.
Tavares has a full NMC I believe. He isn't going anywhere. No team is going to pick up his salary either.@@Alexdenomme
No defensive hockey, its not watchable. Go watch NFL Weirdo.
It's about time Go LEAFS Go 👍!!!
Go golfing basically .
You cannot depend on the goalie to stand in his head and bail you out every night. The overall team defence is just horrible, as they all sell out for the offensive end.
Finally, thank god. Solid guy and Im sorry for what hes going through but you gotta figure it out my friend.
Fuck it if he’s a solid guy or not, this is the pros your getting paid millions if your not performing see ya buddy
@Dylandontplay I agree completely, I still feel for the guy though. A second team passes you along in just a few years. He's brutal to watch but the talent is there
If you worked like him at your job you would've been fired months ago. Not given 4 months to work it out and have no production. 1 good day out of 4 months. It's funny how grown men feel sorry for a guy who makes millions to play a game for privileged white people. 93%white.
This is what happens when the top four guys get half the cap space and they are all forwards! Makes no sense!
TML’s haven’t had a good goaltender since Eddy Belfor & Curtis Joseph!
Oh and they had serious balls then too. Those were the days, man!
Good news is samsanov is only on a one year deal. Campbell is 2 years in to a 5 year deal
This is not a goaltending problem, this is a Leafs defence SUCKS problem . I watched 3 Leafs chase a Columbus player behind the net and leave an open man in front of the net. Furthermore, i watched a columbus player screening and tormenting Sammy while 2 Leafs defence picked there nose . For Sammy's sake, hes better off leaving this joke of an organisation. I think Shanny, treliving and Keefe should be plavced on waivers for this crap !! I'd bet a fortune that Sammy moves to another team and does just fine!!
You must be new to hockey, it shows.
not a chance, he is garbage no matter where he goes!
W.E. pull your head out of your ass "bro". Not saying Sammy has no fault , but any goalie would suck if you had this team infront of them. Just like many in the past !! This crap organisation blood sucks the confidence out of there goalies by putting sub par defence on the ice. @@STONE69_
Samsonov should probably think about going home.
Maybe it's time to look at the management and the coaching? Dumass created this hot mess and was smart enough to get out of dodge and run to Pitt.
It’s about time!!
Spirit in the sky
I agree 100%. This team has respectable stats offensively. Here's the thing; If you score 5 goals but lose 6-5 or score 6 goals but lose 7-6 what does it matter?!? Stop blaming Samsonov who came into this job with some integrity. Admittedly, he is troubled right now. I wouldn't be surprised if he went somewhere else and became a Leaf killer but that isn't going to serve the Leaf's defensive issues. If you had players actually coached on HOW to play defense, how to finish their assignments, how to block shots it would IMMEDIATELY elevate the performance/confidence of the goalie behind them. It's simple math! It's difficult not to name names but there is one defenseman that CONSISTENTLY screws up. I think he would lead the NHL for assists however they would be assists for the opposition! And yet, he gets played on PPs!?!?!?! That identifies issues not restricted to defense. It reminds me of the guy working on his golf swing. He has a horrible swing and he keeps practicing it!! He needs his swing FIXED, not ingrained! Sadly, "THE captain must go down with the ship", and I don't mean Tavares. If there was a Poke-Check award, the Leafs would OWN it! Their D has HORRENDOUS fundamentals....and whomever you put behind them in the pipes is going to get DESTROYED!! Let's blame Samsonov, then Jones, then Woll, then Hildeby, then..... Here's wishing Samsonov all the best, where-ever he goes. Hopefully he will have a D in front of him.
Got some guy’s on this team that won’t listen Keefe is a good coach,
I've been saying for a while now that he looks afraid of the puck. He first reaction to a shot is to get his body out of the way of the puck.
Their are a few UFA net minders unsigned they need to go get one of them
Why do so many commentators talk about jones like he 'might be able to be the back-up'? He's a very solid back up who is keeping us in games behind a terrible defence and coach. LOOK at his record in the past.
The Leafs would have that cap space if Samsonov was traded or put on LTIR.
You can't place someone who isn't injured on LTIR........
Samsonov clear waivers? Like there are buyers out there? Maybe Carolina.
STRAIGHT UP: The Maple leaf FOREVER.
Agree! Forever losers.
😂 that made my day.
Wonder if Bryzgalov is still available 😂😂😂
This is the same problem we've had for the last 10 years, we are offensive team that is way to soft defensively and by the way..dont even have a number 1 goalie!!!
About time. Coach has to be fired also.
COACH MUST BE FIRED NOW
he aint getting fired and they wont who will replace him no one there aint no one who can do a better job than him sammy is in a slump and toronto maple leafs has tired everything with sammy
Yes, there are lots of good coaches out there that would make the core 4 accountable. Keefe doesn't have the stones to sit out the REAL defensive liabilities on this team, David Kampf is not the reason. Scratch Keefe.
@@kaptinkuntry3092 they won’t that’s the thing they won’t everyone put blame on him but yet he has the best record with the leafs yea he doesn’t bench the core 4 but who would no coach will do that reason why we can’t have good player play in Toronto is Becuz people like you and the media so no one wants to play here I’m still surprised the core 4 hasn’t left yet but when they do oh boy no more playoff but wait they can make the playoffs but wait they can’t win the cup and they will never win it anyways they had a clear shot in the bubble to do it and couldn’t they could of last year and could and blah blah blah you don’t bench the core 4 ever no coach will do and no coach has ever done it Becuz it won’t be a good out come use you dam head the coach ain’t the problem it’s the players trying spin move and dangle bullshit crap
Berube
Will Matthews get 70 ? Maybe, but goal scorers win Harts and Art Ross. Goalies win Stanley Cups
ya, 70 but still minus 8
Teams wins cups nice try thou.
I’ve said this for years: from Shanahan down, all management has to go, it’s not working.
The Toronto Maple Leaf's are like Stan Mikita's Chicago Blackhawks, full of talent didn't play as a team and only won one Stanley cup. You build a team from the back end forward.
Sammy is making me miss Jiri Crha, for those of you with some history watching this team.
he was always too busy in his crease and often lost it all together. There is a NHL tender in there but he has bad habits to break. He needs to go to a team that can work with him. The team defence has consequences and its usually its the tenders that crack.
Is that why no other team claimed him for free, the Caps didn't qualify him, and the leafs wouldn't commit long term? I won't even try to defend the defense but he had a much better defense in Washington and it didn't help
I thought it was the second gamble Dubas made that off season and neither worked in the end. My comment about the team defence is more about the continued cycle the leafs have had in their crease. Samsonov is just another one to stumble/ be replaced. @@bradybeijes3232
Unfortunately, Kyle failed to address goaltending when he was here. The chickens have come home to roost. The best years of the big three are being wasted.
Prior to the trade deadline last season, I said the Leafs needed to trade for a goalie. To win a seven game series, your goalie has got to be able to win one game that you don't deserve to win. Samsonov will never do that for you. He'll lose a game you deserve to win though. I predict we have seen the last game Samsonov ever plays in the NHL.
He can retire on his three and a half million. Go play in his homeland.
The only message has been sent that if you are a top 6 player give up the puck in neutral zone in your end and in the offensive end, are the highest paid players you are excused will not be held responsible accountable and as long the offensive numbers can over shadow those defencies you have nothing to worry about.
As for the bottom 6 and making league mininum slightly above well make sure you dont miss a flop pass in the others team end.
Oh and as for line changes when the puck is going tje other thats okay to change a 5 players and leave the goaltender to fend for himself!
Who stops the spring
Im just wondering what the leafs said during arbitration to break Samsonov's spirit
I've been saying it for years, it's the "Ballard Curse".
There u go,
The Leafs took my advice !
And Samsonov right now is doing the tube snakeboogie. Saying "YES !!! I am a FREE MAN !!! "Stroke that TORONTO 😎👍
Leaf's on top fall in season
The Leafs must have a deal cooking .They would not waive him unless they have a replacement ready to go .Maybe brining in Marc Andre Fleury from the Wild ?? I would love to see that .Fleury is 39 but has 3 Cup rings and a ton of playoff experience .Perfect mentor for young Woll I think .Minny is probably going to miss palyoffs anyway so they might as well get a prospect .I guess we will wait and see when Samsonov clears waivers tomorrow ( he will most definitly clear ,no other team is touching that $3.8 mill contact)
Or Wolls nearing return, or they want Hildeby to come up for now and get a look, or sign Halak, I'd say those are more likely then a trade, and they would waive him to save cap, get him games in the AHL to rebuild confidence, and because putting him in net is basically giving away 2 points right now, a fish could flop around like he's been and still make more saves🤣😂🤣
Hopefully the young guy can shake it off and get some mojo back
Why not get Halak on a league minimum contract??
From before the beginning of the last season and is a hockey fan knew they needed back end defense and in goal . But hey they signed all there money away on the first second line .
This was overdue. Sammy is no bueno
Samsonov likely suffering PTSD from playing behind the likes of Brodie for 20 minutes a game for way to long. Fucking guy is never where he needs to be and couldn't block a shot to save his goddamn life. All he does is watch Leaf games and sometimes jump in to screen his own goaltenders for 5.25mill a yr. I wish Sammy a speedy recovery.
While we can't put it all on the goalie, all we need do it look at the team record when ANYONE else was in nets for them compared to when Samsonov was in nets...pretty obvious difference. Samsonovs reactions looked almost delayed at times...it almost appeared like he was letting in an extra or two per game purposely
I feel bad for Sammy but man he must have known how bad he was.
Now ride Jones until Woll gets back. And get 2 defensive big dmen.
I think Reilly and the d corps are purpose doing this to sammy, and I think its all over that rainbow jersey stuff.
That's quite the stretch.
Is Sammy Gay? I don't get the connection lol
Fire Keefe. Trade whatever it takes to go after John Gibson or Dan Vladar. Trade whatever else you have to get some D men.
This seasons looking like it might resemble the 2019 - 2020 season a lot for the Leafs in the sense there was about 20 - 30 games left in the season & it was a dogfight for 3rd in the Division. This will probably be a season where the Leafs will struggle to make the Playoffs, let alone do anything once they get there
They better not go All In at the Deadline as they don't have Elite Defence or Goaltending & you need at least 1 of those to go along with their Elite defence to be a Cup Contender. With how Alright their Defence is the team really needs a Top Goalie to make up for that & they don't have anything like that.
TML is where goalie careers go to die. The Leafs aren't just cursed, they curse anyone that joins that team. The lucky few that make it out before that end up winning a cup.
How's it going Nick.. Wow, they did it eh.. It's time though man. And no doubt it's the best thing for Sammy and definitely for the team. As Kypreos said a couple weeks back, it's no longer fair on the team. They kept their opponent's down to basically 20 shots in a game just recently and still lost. It cannot get any clearer.. Well, let's hope this is the beginning of some very important changes that the Leaf's make across the roster. Because at the moment, this team doesn't look in anyway ready to make a statement in the playoffs. The next few weeks/months should be quite interesting..
Anyway, thanks for the update and I'll see ya tomorra
Out house or garage
A lot of people think Joseph Woll is the savior but he's a year ahead of schedule. This guy is still a rookie and to put all this pressure on his back at this point is a crap shoot. His injury could affect his play, I think he has been awesome but it's not a guarantee that he's the answer.
#firekeefe #leaveKampfAlone!
C ya Samsonov hittin the minesies
You guys broke the news to me
You 4 got the gravy
The desperation 😂
I'm a big fan of scratching guys for consistent and repetitive errors. It can no longer be acceptable. These guys need some hard love here already
Brodie needs to be next.
The only reason i think Brad hasn't traded sammy is because every time he thinks about it, it comes with fear of getting into a tukka rask situation where sammy gets disgustingly good again as soon as he moves
I don't think that was the case at all. Given the way he is playing who would want him? Given his cap hit I don't believe anyone will claim him??? Perhaps the Leafs may claim Eric Comrie if Samosonov gets claimed?
@laurarebel6282 I don't disagree. But let's be honest. The leafy thing to happen would be sending him to Montreal or Ottawa aka a rival team that needs anything. Then all of a sudden he's 2023 playoff sammy again.
Don't all players who leave Toronto - except Campbell - get better when they leave?
Marner gives away the puck night after night and Keefe's solution is scratching Kampf. With any luck Keefe will get fired. Giordano is back. However Keefe will now run him into the ground with way to much playing time.
They need to play defensive first. When they play a team that hits they don’t do well. Most of the games this year is like watching pond hockey.
Remember when Leaf Nation was laughing at Oilers fans when they demoted Campbell?
Oilers are now 12--3 in their last 15 games...Skinner is NUMBER 1 in WINS and 2nd in SHUTOUTS since Nov.11....Pickard the new back up is 2--1 and looks like an NHL goalie....AND in the AHL they have a kid named Rodrigue that has a league leading .942 Sav%....Thanks for caring. Happy New Year.
Most leaf fans were not happy about Soup getting demoted, we loved the guy here in Toronto. Edmonton is also a good choice in the playoffs when the Leafers go down round one but they like the leafs just are not gritty enough to go to the finals.Let’s hope I’m wrong ( for both teams)
@@eugenesaxe8579Soupy was/is quite popular with his team mates in Edmonton. ...and again in Bakerfield. In fact the coaches RAVED about his positive attitude. That's what makes you want to see him do well, but he takes everything extremely personally.
Stu Skinner is a huge fan. He has said so many time's.....In favy he vredits him for helping him get used to the NHL......
Now he is in Bakersfield....and his much younger partner Olivier Rodrigue has a .942 Sav%....That is 2 younger goalies that Soupy has mentored and turned out very good,
Maybe we all have this whole Soupy thing wrong?
They need d. More grit up front. Trade 1 of the core 4. Ship Reaves 2 the miners
The grit they bring in turns to mush within a couple of months. The team identity is "pussy".
Excuse my interest rate are weed smoking or jockstrap
Feel bad. Sadge. Jonathan Bernier went through this slump after having his first child. Hildeby is our Dryden. 🤞
Hildeby might be our Jordan Binnington! Bring him up!
Well, new year new start.
Whatever team claims him off waivers will need to score at least 6 goals per game to win. He’s the perfect tank and rebuild goaltender. He’s a good dude but he can’t compete at the top tier.
They need a g.m. try for Tim hunter
Be a long shot he gets claimed. It was longshots that hurt him.
Now place the coach on waivers. This team’s defence is brutal. Team often not ready to play. Time for a fresh voice in the locker room, someone with proper systems.
The coach needs to mix his combinations of lines. Domi and Marner looked good in one game but they are kept apart. Coach keeps going with same combination and apart from Matthews, the rest are not good at playing a defensive game. They need to improve goaltending as well as they need a couple of good defensemen. It will be hard but the GM needs to earn his pay.
The only way for the leafs to move forward is to trade one of the big forwards (perhaps a sign and trade for Nylander) to get a top defender to anchor the blue line, and somehow to get at least a competent NHL goalie, their goalie situation right now is a complete dumpster fire
Imagine putting a 83mil bet on a goalie with sub 20 nhl games.. (woll)
This is the kind of mess you get when you either refuse to coach or cant get players to play even the most basic form of team defense.
Should never have run this back again with Keefe. When Dudas left Keefe should have been next out the door.
I'm disappointed. Not surprised, but disappointed. They refuse to lay the blame where it deserves to go, and Ilya Samsonov is the scapegoat, put on waivers because they don't want to blame the ABYSMAL play of the "defense."
You can fault the defensive style, however, the issue is Samsonov’s play. His movements are too large and he seems to loose track of pucks far too easy. Most of the goals he’s let by are low danger, routine saves. He’ frequently out of position which makes his excessive movement even larger. He needs time away from the show to work on his technique.
waive the all D and all coach too
The Leafs should put ShanaPLAN Shanahan on waivers. Doesn't ShanaPLAN Shanahan bless every move the GM makes? When will he be held accountable? How has the big 3 moves made by "Shanny's" GM panned out?
What took so long? The Leafs are going nowhere. Weak D and no goaltending lol. What a disaster.
Keefe has run his time out with this team. He can’t coach these players. They will do absolutely nothing with him behind the bench. This is going to be another lost season
Another one bites the dust.
Now Fire Keefe and 2024 will be great!!!!! Sammy can’t stop a beach ball. Leafs problem last 7 years is the goalie. They never had shutdown goalie after Cujo. This is why they can’t win those games. Defense sucks. Trade Marner or put him on waivers next please
Belfour.
Same shit different pile, when you choose Kile over Lou a guy with 3 cups that believe s in defense and goaltending, this is what you get. They dont get going they could miss the playoffs which may not be a bad thing, I wanted change after the Montreal seies
Defense wins championships.
goodthing is they still have thier 1st round pick this year, not next tho
What ails the Leafs are too many to list.The D leaders have regressed and weren’t great to begin with.The forward group are soft expensive and lazy.The opportunity to right the ship past last spring and now AMs talent will be wasted, until the team is balanced.
Brodie has played like crap all year, thats 5 mil there that could go to a better defender
TJs last year on a nmc(moving him is unlikely) and Rielly took a step back after Muzzin left also, imo.@@hurtlocker6611
I blame Harold Ballard.
This is a toronto thing. They let good talent twist in the wind for years and years without properly developing them or coaching them. This is a coaching failure. All of these issues should have been struggled with last July. It is time to humble the management and coaching staff there.
No one going to pick him up hes a has been.