i actually saw the supervan 4 in person at goodwood for the f24 finals. it was absolutely crazy in person but u get to see how it is kinda not really a van anymore as the rear is fully sculpted for that "tear drop" shape. it was really cool none the less to be in the presence of such an increadible monster tho.
Funny fact this is TECHNICALLY the FIFTH supervan as the 1 of 1 supersport van was a super slow 3.2 5 pot transit made in 2011 which is in forza! It technically counts lol
Fun fact: in 1965 Ford shipped some brand new Ford mustangs (unknown on how many exactly) to England for a straight axle 4WD swap but it would cost an extra $500 per car to make a profit so Ford decided to pass on the idea. Currently there is 1 left and is located in a museum in England
1968 was the first year seatbelts were required by law in the United States. However, after some research, all fastback and coupe Mustangs had seatbelts standard since 1966. But, they could be ordered on any model of Mustang all the way back to 1965.
They couldve totally added all of the other car modes the supervan has, by using the mode selector we already have just press down on the left stick and it goes down the list and then at the bottem it just goes to the top! They coulve done that but still we cant complain it is a 2000 hp van at the end of the day
The 500 comes from a false advertisement to make it sound a lot more powerful and yes it was still more powerful than the gt350 and it did have seatbelts and no safety features but had suspension from ahead of its time being the ultimate muscle car
There are a few issues with the Supervan 4. First, its not really a van, at least the others had some potential for van-like load space, this one removes it all for teardrop aero. Second, the E-Transit will be largely a flop compared to how ubiquitous the proper Transit is for every application, since we already know EVs have a range problem when you increase the load its carrying, an ICE's efficiency goes up until it peaks at WOT at peak torque, but an EV drops in range linearly as load goes up, so while an empty Transit might get, I don't know, maybe 28% thermal efficiency, that goes up to perhaps 35% to 38% at peak torque RPM and near WOT in highway cruise at maximum cargo capacity, so an empty range of 800 miles becomes maybe 550 to 600 with double the empty weight, while an E-Transit with maybe 400 miles of range drops to 200 at most at double its empty weight. Its why I like hybrids, they turn on and off the generator and when its on, its being ran at peak torque WOT until the battery and/or capacitors are at high enough power. Its not so much the electric drive, that only helps low speed efficiency, but rather the peak efficiency power band being used. Its why my engineering knowledge tells me that SkyActiv-X with its 58% peak torque WOT thermal efficiency plus capacitor hybrid drive could mean a car that accelerates faster than a Model S, maybe not the Plaid, and will have a range that surpasses 1000 miles with a decently sized fuel tank.
@@PCTutorialz WOT = Wide Open Throttle, its when the butterfly throttle valve allows the maximum airflow, nearly 90 degrees turned from its resting position. Usually when the throttle pedal is touching the floor or firewall, or otherwise pushed against its endstop. Edit: What is meant by "WOT at peak-torque" is that the engine is bogged down to the limit and no further, the maximum usable power the engine can output since peak horsepower is a function of engine speed, and at that peak torque point at full throttle the engine is at its peak efficiency as pumping losses are minimized both by the minimum restriction in the intake and the low engine speed when the flame front of each combustion stroke is able to reach the piston before it reaches bottom dead center, which depends on the kind of engine it is and what fuel its running, higher octane actually means lower rpm in this case since octane is a slow combusting hydrocarbon while heptane is a faster burning one, the former to offset the latter one which is the main hydrocarbon that gasoline is made, formerly known as septane in the older naming scheme. With a higher compression ratio the flame front is faster once again, which needs more octane to slow it back down and prevent knocking, and the same happens with any forced induction as the higher intake charge pressure also speeds up the flame front, as the flame front moves faster in denser air. Anyways, I got carried away once again, but WOT at peak-torque is the point at which the various sources of power loss in an ICE are at their minimum as a sum, hence why the engine is making its peak torque at that lower RPM. A 2008 Corvette for example makes its peak torque at about 4650 RPM, so at or below that point is where the vehicle cruises best, but in such a fuel-hungry engine its better to lug it even lower due to tradeoffs with fuel consumption rising with RPM despite it being able to use that power more efficiently. Its notable that if you're aiming for the very maximum power you can get out of an engine, you gear it down and run it at peak horsepower, since the torque you get out of it then is higher than its peak torque RPM, but the tradeoff is that your fuel efficiency absolutely tanks and the engine's operational life drops drastically. Damn it I got lost again. You get my point, right?
The reason the Viper engine is an option is because Shelby worked on the 1st Viper. Not too sure why the Diesel motor was an option though. Maybe there was a diesel he secretly worked on?
I’ve heard that too but not sure how accurate that is, I’ve heard 350 steps as well. Also heard the gt500 was called that bc it was 500lbs heavier than the gt350(kinda true especially race weight).
pretty sure the van has just broken a record at Bathurst for a fastest lap. cant remember if it was for a category or all time. but ive got a short posted on it doing slme fly bys 😂😂
9:17 nuh uh the most expensive mustang sold was in the movie Need For Speed where Toby Marshall built that really fast mustang and it went like really fast and it was sold to that pretty blonde lady for 2.7 million
The E Transits actually suck horrible. Like 260hp from the electric motors, massive heavy van like 7-9k pounds, with 120 miles of range full charge. Our dealership watched the Ford Detroit auction last week. Every E Transit that went on the auction block was a no-bid / no-sale
I remember one comment in the video where he said that it would be instant death if you crashed one of the GT500 in the 60s that could be true but at least back then cars were actually made better material wise always enjoy next videos I actually hope that one day he will just make a video about showing people and explaining it to them in a fun simple way how to tune I'm still learning myself and I admit with no shame there's always room to learn but a lot could benefit from that I think
Supervan 1 was scrapped.. so it might be a little hard to scan that model in... but i hope we get supervan 2 though (also the Elanor was NOT made by Ford.. it was actually made for a movie which i cant remember the name of at the time of writing this comment)
No idea if this has been said, but the "Eleanor" was not part of the Shelby Mustang line but a Movie car, that where then custom built as a replica car by a third party company that in honesty just the worst, because there is also a 72 Mustang Fastback that was in the first "Gone in 60 seconds" from the 70's that was also named "Eleanor" and looks nothing like the one people are more aware of.
3:05 that was me in the Hoonigan Bel Air. Guess I had good timing logging in to do the daily challenge today!
Bros mad lucky
I saw your Reddit post!
Small world
@@kmsadiq8665why cuz he drove near a youtuber in a video game 😂😂
i actually saw the supervan 4 in person at goodwood for the f24 finals. it was absolutely crazy in person but u get to see how it is kinda not really a van anymore as the rear is fully sculpted for that "tear drop" shape. it was really cool none the less to be in the presence of such an increadible monster tho.
10:53 Tire clips into the leaf spring 😂😂
Built from the ground up !!!
oh yeah haha
@@blacksongoku312it's cause they built that tire before the game
@@blacksongoku312Different game engine
Funny fact this is TECHNICALLY the FIFTH supervan as the 1 of 1 supersport van was a super slow 3.2 5 pot transit made in 2011 which is in forza! It technically counts lol
Fun fact: in 1965 Ford shipped some brand new Ford mustangs (unknown on how many exactly) to England for a straight axle 4WD swap but it would cost an extra $500 per car to make a profit so Ford decided to pass on the idea. Currently there is 1 left and is located in a museum in England
“Engine spacer, no sorry motor spacer” 😂😂
ya know, the engine spacers joke actually works for this one lmao
Finally Ginetta! Now we just need the G50, G55 and G58😍
Shelby GT500 what a beautiful vintage car.
The Shelby is definitely a thumbs-up, but would've been 69,000% cooler if they had included the Eleanor body kit.
oh yes my bad one of me dream car. it would look 10X better with the Eleanor body kit but idk or think they with add it
1968 was the first year seatbelts were required by law in the United States. However, after some research, all fastback and coupe Mustangs had seatbelts standard since 1966. But, they could be ordered on any model of Mustang all the way back to 1965.
What an amazing way to start my spring break
smooth operator for Carlos Sainz s like skill issue for Nick
Nick had a skill issue on the level of Max Versteppen lol
@@garywhite723 is that compliment?
9:15 71 Hemi cuda convertible. 12 made. worth 4 mil if Im correct.
Mr Shelby Thank you very much for this very Great nice Fast koelkast
Gotta make an alarm to buy this car pack tomorrow, for now Im going to bed
Love all the cars from the DLC nothing op but crazy fun to drive and it is the important thing :D
petition for nick to make a video for all of the cars he has said was one of his favorite cars.
Tonight, on “Skill Issue”:
Fire doesn’t deliver stickers in a van, Nick asks a stupid question, and a Mustang doesn’t drive into a crowd.
They couldve totally added all of the other car modes the supervan has, by using the mode selector we already have just press down on the left stick and it goes down the list and then at the bottem it just goes to the top! They coulve done that but still we cant complain it is a 2000 hp van at the end of the day
AR12 making yet another amazing forza video. Keep up the great work!
Bro these cars are wild i love this car pack
The 500 comes from a false advertisement to make it sound a lot more powerful and yes it was still more powerful than the gt350 and it did have seatbelts and no safety features but had suspension from ahead of its time being the ultimate muscle car
Learn proper grammar.
@TheSh4dowgale make friends not enemies
I wish they included Eleanor’s front end.. that one is sick
Welcome to Fordza Horizon 5, as it seems like Ford got a lotta love with this update
"The gear stick is a pleasure stick"
has me dead
Nick is the type of guy showing his help-needed skill issues post 1 minute and 24 people has commented
3:56 I know it's an inside joke, but in this case they literally (well kinda) are motor spacers, lmao.
Ain’t it wheel spacers tho it
@@danielyanez3315 Yes, but like I said, it's an inside joke. From a long time ago lol.
In my opinion this update almost feels like the Fordzathon series update a year ago with all the new Fords included in this update.
There are a few issues with the Supervan 4. First, its not really a van, at least the others had some potential for van-like load space, this one removes it all for teardrop aero. Second, the E-Transit will be largely a flop compared to how ubiquitous the proper Transit is for every application, since we already know EVs have a range problem when you increase the load its carrying, an ICE's efficiency goes up until it peaks at WOT at peak torque, but an EV drops in range linearly as load goes up, so while an empty Transit might get, I don't know, maybe 28% thermal efficiency, that goes up to perhaps 35% to 38% at peak torque RPM and near WOT in highway cruise at maximum cargo capacity, so an empty range of 800 miles becomes maybe 550 to 600 with double the empty weight, while an E-Transit with maybe 400 miles of range drops to 200 at most at double its empty weight. Its why I like hybrids, they turn on and off the generator and when its on, its being ran at peak torque WOT until the battery and/or capacitors are at high enough power. Its not so much the electric drive, that only helps low speed efficiency, but rather the peak efficiency power band being used. Its why my engineering knowledge tells me that SkyActiv-X with its 58% peak torque WOT thermal efficiency plus capacitor hybrid drive could mean a car that accelerates faster than a Model S, maybe not the Plaid, and will have a range that surpasses 1000 miles with a decently sized fuel tank.
Oh, sorry Avetho, I decided to cancel the Ar12Nick essay. You can turn it in but you will not receive credit.
what does wot mean
Mate it's a concept
@@TheLonelyGamer_17 Noooo! My extra credit! *crying emjois*
@@PCTutorialz WOT = Wide Open Throttle, its when the butterfly throttle valve allows the maximum airflow, nearly 90 degrees turned from its resting position. Usually when the throttle pedal is touching the floor or firewall, or otherwise pushed against its endstop.
Edit: What is meant by "WOT at peak-torque" is that the engine is bogged down to the limit and no further, the maximum usable power the engine can output since peak horsepower is a function of engine speed, and at that peak torque point at full throttle the engine is at its peak efficiency as pumping losses are minimized both by the minimum restriction in the intake and the low engine speed when the flame front of each combustion stroke is able to reach the piston before it reaches bottom dead center, which depends on the kind of engine it is and what fuel its running, higher octane actually means lower rpm in this case since octane is a slow combusting hydrocarbon while heptane is a faster burning one, the former to offset the latter one which is the main hydrocarbon that gasoline is made, formerly known as septane in the older naming scheme. With a higher compression ratio the flame front is faster once again, which needs more octane to slow it back down and prevent knocking, and the same happens with any forced induction as the higher intake charge pressure also speeds up the flame front, as the flame front moves faster in denser air. Anyways, I got carried away once again, but WOT at peak-torque is the point at which the various sources of power loss in an ICE are at their minimum as a sum, hence why the engine is making its peak torque at that lower RPM. A 2008 Corvette for example makes its peak torque at about 4650 RPM, so at or below that point is where the vehicle cruises best, but in such a fuel-hungry engine its better to lug it even lower due to tradeoffs with fuel consumption rising with RPM despite it being able to use that power more efficiently. Its notable that if you're aiming for the very maximum power you can get out of an engine, you gear it down and run it at peak horsepower, since the torque you get out of it then is higher than its peak torque RPM, but the tradeoff is that your fuel efficiency absolutely tanks and the engine's operational life drops drastically. Damn it I got lost again. You get my point, right?
Hahhh,I love the Ford super van and any other Ford motor 😁👌
The reason the Viper engine is an option is because Shelby worked on the 1st Viper. Not too sure why the Diesel motor was an option though. Maybe there was a diesel he secretly worked on?
More so that the Diesel engine comes from a Ford truck lol.
I love the Shelby gt500 they added in this pack
Nick and keep up the good work real true and I love the video 👍
its always a good day when nick uplods
It isn't known where the 500 in GT500 came from, but the GT350 got its name because Shelby's two shops were 350ft apart from one another.
I’ve heard that too but not sure how accurate that is, I’ve heard 350 steps as well. Also heard the gt500 was called that bc it was 500lbs heavier than the gt350(kinda true especially race weight).
Ford: Supervan 4 2022
Me: " Van ElectroSucc 4 "😂
I feel like shelby would be down to throw any engine in any car for the hell of it
pretty sure the van has just broken a record at Bathurst for a fastest lap. cant remember if it was for a category or all time. but ive got a short posted on it doing slme fly bys 😂😂
9:17 nuh uh the most expensive mustang sold was in the movie Need For Speed where Toby Marshall built that really fast mustang and it went like really fast and it was sold to that pretty blonde lady for 2.7 million
Can't wait to see what the next update will bring after this new one
The E Transits actually suck horrible. Like 260hp from the electric motors, massive heavy van like 7-9k pounds, with 120 miles of range full charge. Our dealership watched the Ford Detroit auction last week. Every E Transit that went on the auction block was a no-bid / no-sale
Supervan 1 & 2 actually don't exist anymore. So we will never see those.
I've seen this vid loads and the transit is amazing British engineering
Nick the gt500 that you just drove, that car was also in the movie "gone in 60 seconds" Right? Nick forgotten that movie😆
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Nick made a super van 4 then a Shelby GT 500 in this video.
than yo
w mans
@@Alex_20sigma balls
@@Alex_20 bad boy
Hi Nick I love ur vids u make skill issues my favorite thing to do 😂keep up the videos
9:15 The most expensive American muscle car ever sold was the 1962 Shelby Cobra CSX2000 at 13.75 million dollars.
I remember one comment in the video where he said that it would be instant death if you crashed one of the GT500 in the 60s that could be true but at least back then cars were actually made better material wise always enjoy next videos I actually hope that one day he will just make a video about showing people and explaining it to them in a fun simple way how to tune I'm still learning myself and I admit with no shame there's always room to learn but a lot could benefit from that I think
I love this car pack
Been looking forward to this one…
I saw this van in the Aus GP
Having a DHL van on the thumbnail as the "worlds fastest" is slightly ironic
DHL - Dauert halt länger
Can't wait for the Van will be used by DJ in one of your challenges and obliterate everyone in the challenges
I am not sure but I remember about the GT350 being based on the race car and the GT500 being the high performance variant of the GT350
5:11 Can't believe the supervan 4 wants to be mustang
Alternate Title: Nick said the SuperVan is a W truck.
Hi Nick love your vids on youtube and twitch
Supervan 1 was scrapped.. so it might be a little hard to scan that model in... but i hope we get supervan 2 though (also the Elanor was NOT made by Ford.. it was actually made for a movie which i cant remember the name of at the time of writing this comment)
The van reminds me of a old hot wheels van i owned. You could split the body from the chassis
13:25-13:34 Nick struggles to say "abysmal"
You can get the gt500 to 49% front 51% rear weight balance and then it feels like a rocket on rails
The raptor r isn’t showing up for me in the autoshow
FINALLY!!!!
Good video 😮😮😮
Idea for a challenge - home made supervan
10:12 *Nick, I feel your pain.*
The absolute disgust in his voice had me weak 😂
i had a feeling the gt500 was getting a 7.0l v8 swap. but i didnt expect that one-
Awesome cars Nick from AR12
2:00
A ford what!!!
Van go brrrrrrrrrrrr
I saw the ford super van a couple of weeks ago
No idea if this has been said, but the "Eleanor" was not part of the Shelby Mustang line but a Movie car, that where then custom built as a replica car by a third party company that in honesty just the worst, because there is also a 72 Mustang Fastback that was in the first "Gone in 60 seconds" from the 70's that was also named "Eleanor" and looks nothing like the one people are more aware of.
I will say, my only complaint about the Sabre is that the interior is orange and blue and won't change with the car
Imagine if there was an Eleanor kit on the mustang
Let's just totally ignore the insane drifting from 8:05-8:15 then huh?
Is the Supervan unbelievably fast? No, definitely not. It is definitely a hoot to drive, though.
Shelby decided to round up
12:15 yeah Nick is American
bro imagine amazon using that van😂
Can forza add heads up display in cars on the windscreen
And map on the windscreen
wish they would have let you swap the 5.2l from the 2013 gt500 in it
Would of been cool if forza had the engine swap to the engine from fast and the furious Tokyo drift
Nick I hope we have a good story about ginetta tomorrow
YESSS NICK
Sick car pack
Now only thing we need is a normal newest supervan in fh5...
Where is the story about how it won second in the largest hill climb?
Why wouldn’t you use drift tires for both rear wheel drive and all-wheel-drive drifting??
Looƙs good man
Western champion putted a diesel engine in a Mustang so I don't see a problem
is this what fedex uses when i order same-day delivery on amazon?
Nick come to the 6hours of spa you can see mustangs and gt40s and lots more race it for 6hoirs long
They should've either given us horsepower upgrade or downgrade options because the only way to make this thing competitive is with snow tires💀💀💀
Of course they had to put one of my favourite cars in the car pack…
💀
Can you make a Forza Horizon 5 challenge video where you need to make the best family car pls
I'm getting this pack
Bro seriously put the Merlin V8 from a monster truck in a Shelby
LOL who else got the ford transit van ad on this video
I saw this liveee