I wrote down what my teacher said but I still don't understand. Evaluating limits! Reddit r/calculus

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  • Learn how to evaluate this limit! This is a rather tricky and confusing limit since we have to consider the limit as x comes from the left-hand side and also the right-hand side. Both limits exist but are they equal? This exponential case is tricky! This limit is from Reddit r/calculus.
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Комментарии • 67

  • @bprpcalculusbasics
    @bprpcalculusbasics  7 месяцев назад +10

    Get your indeterminate cat t-shirt: 👉 amzn.to/3qBeuw6

    • @akshi0076
      @akshi0076 7 месяцев назад

      But if we Use L'Hospital's Rule we get answer in 1 step, 3+2 = 5

  • @major__kong
    @major__kong 7 месяцев назад +73

    Instead of long division, you can +3 then -3 in the numerator. +2 + 3 gives 5. Factor the 5 out, and numerator and denominator will cancel leaving 5.

    • @avisibleparadox
      @avisibleparadox 7 месяцев назад

      bro thats such a nice idea

    • @dorol6375
      @dorol6375 7 месяцев назад +1

      Oh I didn't fully pay attention since I thought that was what he did because it's such a standard trick

    • @xinpingdonohoe3978
      @xinpingdonohoe3978 7 месяцев назад +3

      Adding 0 is just as important as multiplying by 1. Very useful to know how to do.

    • @titaniadioxide6133
      @titaniadioxide6133 7 месяцев назад

      You can also +5 and -5!

    • @MrTimAway
      @MrTimAway 7 месяцев назад

      Out of curiosity, how do you come up with this neat trick? Is this years of experience of playing with numbers or is there a trick?

  • @Lasyltherni
    @Lasyltherni 7 месяцев назад +6

    I don't even have math in school anymore, but these videos are just so relaxing and enjoyable.

  • @aniruddhaghosh1303
    @aniruddhaghosh1303 7 месяцев назад +102

    I am an Indian. I always eagerly wait for your new video. You are an excellent teacher. I am also a mathematics teacher, but you are my teacher. I am grateful to you.

    • @aniruddhaghosh1303
      @aniruddhaghosh1303 7 месяцев назад +8

      It is my humble request to you that please explain the concept of hyperbolic trigonometric function in detail.

    • @alien3200
      @alien3200 7 месяцев назад +35

      Thanks for telling your an Indian, that's the most important info

    • @vaibhavgupta8681
      @vaibhavgupta8681 7 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@alien3200Yes That will be a lot of help in your plan of colonisation

    • @alien3200
      @alien3200 7 месяцев назад +10

      @@vaibhavgupta8681 brother i am an Indian too 😂😂
      Aami bangali

    • @wernerviehhauser94
      @wernerviehhauser94 7 месяцев назад +1

      I'm a german math teacher. Haven't tought any limits besides the bare minimum for derivatives in 20 years.....

  • @krishjain7057
    @krishjain7057 5 месяцев назад +1

    For such questions based on exponential function,One of the most short and elegant method is to study the graph of e^x as when we move towards positive x axis the graph increases rapidly but when we move negative x axis at -∞, we get the value of e^-∞ as zero.
    It might be complex but whn u know it u feel another level of satisfaction 😊😊😊;)

  • @WhiteGandalfs
    @WhiteGandalfs 7 месяцев назад +13

    First substituting y = x-4 (then limes y -> 0) helps simplifying.

  • @thestamperoftime5284
    @thestamperoftime5284 7 месяцев назад +10

    You could have seperate the sum into two limits. One with exp fraction and the other is 2. For the first one divide by the exponential term. At the end you will get 3 + 2=5

    • @JayTemple
      @JayTemple 7 месяцев назад

      There's more to it, because you have to do it from left and right, but I absolutely agree about just adding 2 to the result!

  • @ClownBaby893
    @ClownBaby893 7 месяцев назад +1

    For the positive limit, I don't know if using rates of growth is allowed, but since terms are summed, only the exponent term matters in the fraction as it grows to infinity. You ignore the +1 and cancel out the exponent terms, giving you a result of 3 for the entire fraction. For the negative limit, exponents evaluate to 0, so you get 0 for the entire fraction.

  • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
    @bjornfeuerbacher5514 7 месяцев назад +18

    Why should one combine the two fractions? That is not necessary at all and only complicated the calculation.
    For x going to -4 from the left, you can immediately use that the exponential factor goes to zero, and hence you get 3*0/(0+1) + 2 = 2.
    For x going to -4 from the right, the exponential factor goes to infinity, and hence you have an infinity / infinity situation. But that can be remedied by multiplying the numerator and denominator of the first fraction with e^(-1/(x+4)) and simplifying. Since e^(-1/(x+4)) goes to zero when x goes to -4 from the right, you then immediately get 3/(1+0) + 2 = 5.

    • @Silvar55x
      @Silvar55x 7 месяцев назад +6

      Combining factors was part of the question BPRP was responding to.
      Sidestepping that and just presenting a quick and easy solution to the problem isn't very helpful if the person wants help understanding their teacher's working out.

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 7 месяцев назад +2

      @@Silvar55x The original question was simply to compute the limit. The solution which the teacher gave involved combining fractions, yes. But bprp could have shown how to do it quicker and easier _additional_ to explaining the teacher's solution.

    • @Silvar55x
      @Silvar55x 7 месяцев назад +6

      @@bjornfeuerbacher5514Sorry, by "original question" I meant the question / plea for help that BPRP was responding to. Should have been more clear.

    • @bjornfeuerbacher5514
      @bjornfeuerbacher5514 7 месяцев назад +3

      @@Silvar55x I meant that, too. It's clear that bprp is answering that. My point was that bprp should _additionally_ have pointed out how to do it easier and quicker.

  • @ZLC_GG
    @ZLC_GG 7 месяцев назад +4

    How am i gonna understand math without this guy bro❤ thanks bro we love you and your videos

  • @bugsfudd8295
    @bugsfudd8295 7 месяцев назад +1

    Another great video. I think you could have saved a little work if you did the long division on the first term right at the start. That would give you a 3 with a -3 remainder. The 3 then would combine with the 2 to give you 5

  • @adamlea6339
    @adamlea6339 6 месяцев назад

    I guess that means if you were to graph the function there would be a discontinuity at x=-4.

  • @ericjoseph2122
    @ericjoseph2122 7 месяцев назад

    I'm not a math student and i have started watching your videos😮 i find it very interesting

  • @aneeshbro
    @aneeshbro 7 месяцев назад +5

    Keep up the hard work bro❤

  • @johanngerell
    @johanngerell 7 месяцев назад +4

    The Wolfram Alpha plot of this is educational in this context

  • @lacerisesurlegateau4192
    @lacerisesurlegateau4192 7 месяцев назад +3

    I am on the lunch break but your video still got me doing maths

  • @charlesdarwin54
    @charlesdarwin54 5 месяцев назад

    Man you're good!! Do you do physics videos too?

  • @enderboss3773
    @enderboss3773 7 месяцев назад +1

    I don't understand can't u just do e^(1/x+4)=e^((x+4)^-1) and since e^n^m=e^(n*m) that equals to e^(-x-4) and when u do the limit that equals to 1

    • @richardbraakman7469
      @richardbraakman7469 7 месяцев назад +1

      I think it's the parentheses. You're doing e^((x+4)^-1) not (e^(x+4))^-1.
      To say it another way, e^(1/(x+4)) is not 1/(e^(x+4))

  • @cdkw8254
    @cdkw8254 7 месяцев назад +5

    Am I the only one why learnt about polynomial long division just now?

    • @XplosivDS
      @XplosivDS 7 месяцев назад +1

      I only heard of it once and didn't really understand it so yes lol.
      I'm curious about when it's applicable

    • @epikherolol8189
      @epikherolol8189 7 месяцев назад

      Yes

  • @OrenLikes
    @OrenLikes 7 месяцев назад

    I was, finally, brave enough to watch your video, this one, about limits and e!
    Well, I didn't know it was about that before I started watching, so, I was brave enough to continue watching after realizing...
    You make so not-scary! Thank you!

  • @juaneldesconocido2186
    @juaneldesconocido2186 7 месяцев назад +7

    Me: 3.5 ± 1.5

  • @SpeakMouthWords
    @SpeakMouthWords 7 месяцев назад +1

    High School and Undergrad math majors look away, this answer is just for Undergrad Physics Gang:
    On the last black line before it turns blue at 2:27, you can just say "(5 * Big Thing + 2) = (5 * Big Thing)" and "(Big Thing + 1) = (Big Thing)", then cancel out big thing to get 5

    • @epikherolol8189
      @epikherolol8189 7 месяцев назад +2

      That's not even physics
      That's the fundamental theorem of engineering

  • @santigamer1100
    @santigamer1100 7 месяцев назад +1

    Polynomical divisions are sick 💫💫💫

  • @dont-want-no-wrench
    @dont-want-no-wrench 7 месяцев назад +4

    very clear, even i understood

  • @googolian
    @googolian 7 месяцев назад +1

    I fully understand his answer.....but I would not have been able to do this from scratch on my own

    • @shanedsouza189
      @shanedsouza189 7 месяцев назад

      That's why practice is important, unless you are used to doing questions like this and activating your brain in such a way, starting it off is very difficult.
      It's like understanding a foreign language movie through subtitles, and practicing the actual dialogue itself.

  • @ilyashick3178
    @ilyashick3178 7 месяцев назад

    if graph can be presented for completely solution it would be nicely, as well.

  • @JayTemple
    @JayTemple 7 месяцев назад

    The fact that neither 2 nor 5 is one of the choices makes this question too easy!

  • @copperII_
    @copperII_ 7 месяцев назад +1

    if you substitute e^(1/x+4) with u, x->(-4)- become u->0, and x->(-4)+ become u->+inf. That would be way faster

    • @forcelifeforce
      @forcelifeforce 7 месяцев назад

      You wrote that wrong. You are missing required grouping symbols: e^[1/(x + 4)] is the correct form.

  • @VerneKonig
    @VerneKonig 6 месяцев назад

    Excellent

  • @SuperTommox
    @SuperTommox 7 месяцев назад

    Great video

  • @anca3921
    @anca3921 4 месяца назад

    All the six y/os be like when they see the word 5ex: 🤨

  • @mayocream1837
    @mayocream1837 7 месяцев назад +2

    Can’t you just use LH-rule.

    • @Samir-zb3xk
      @Samir-zb3xk 7 месяцев назад +3

      Its not neccessary to use L'Hôpital's rule here and since the original post was tagged with "pre-calculus" its better to do a more analytical approach

  • @Kazuto1567
    @Kazuto1567 7 месяцев назад

    Easyyyy

  • @quibblegaze
    @quibblegaze 7 месяцев назад

    0:23: 📚 Explanation of evaluating limits with common denominators and combining fractions.
    3:45: 📝 Understanding how to evaluate limits using polynomial long division with an example calculation.
    7:37: 📈 Understanding the evaluation of limits using exponential functions with positive and negative infinity.
    Timestamps by Tammy AI

  • @marksandsmith6778
    @marksandsmith6778 7 месяцев назад

    India is a country without shame.