But he's also the same man who said he wanted competition. It's crazy cuz the same people during the beef who was hollering about competition now got it and they bitching like a bunch of hoes because an East Coast rapper threw his hat in.
@Ruffian97731 this is facts too, but he didn't really rep NY. He got maybe 3 bars for saying some real NY shit. He DISSED the West and he barely rep the East. Imo at least
Drake, 50, Joey (who works for 50), and Conductor Williams (who produced the Cole, Drake 2025, and Joey disses) have assembled to try to cause chaos before the SB. “Fifty deep but he ain’t deep enough.” -Kendrick
@@MADDYG-p8v They are competing but they're they are coming from a toxic place. They are not competing for the sport of hip hop, they are jealous and want to drag Kendrick down out of envy not because they are more talented.........(Because they're not).
There is imo some weird energy being directed toward Kendrick from too many rappers for my liking. Joey mentioned bandwagon Kendrick fans. I am Gen X. I detested what I was hearing in rap songs many years ago. So, I stopped listening. I wasn’t interested in the negativity and toxicity. In 2024, I heard an artist that caught my attention. I became a fan of his music because I genuinely loved what I heard from all his albums. Because of him, I am now allowing myself to listen to other rap artists’ music again. I am now a little more engaged with hip hop. Kendrick is an artiste of the highest order. I can’t wait to see him in May, God willing.
@@stuartor3414 This is a heavily Drake-coded response. That last sentence, in particular, sounds like What's The Dirt is using a sock puppet, because that's some middle-class yt bull$hit. Are you, by any chance, a Newfie?
@@stuartor3414she never said he claimed to be holier than thou. Furthermore, you should listen to MMATBS instead of running with internet chatter. That album was absolutely NOT all about cheating on Whitney! On that same album he specifically said HE IS NOT YOUR SAVIOR! So can we at least put that narrative to bed?
@@stuartor3414 Kendrick has been honest and transparent with his fans about his failures and shortcomings. I respect that. He has shown growth and maturity which many people lack. Growth maturity though don’t mean a person won’t take it there when necessary. With that said, I am glad for various reasons that Kendrick decided to battle Drake.
What I don’t hear anybody mentioning is Joey’s ties to 50 Cent, who’s also been openly hating on Dot in support of the Drizzler. Also keep in mind that Raising Kanan’s newest season is about to premiere within the next month. Any buzz that Joey and 50 can spark right now will benefit Power.
I mean, it’s basically the only thing I see being discussed in this thread. Er’ry one know Fiddy sent him, probably personally shelled out for the conductor beat!
@@LifeAndTimelessArt That’s where the real problem with the west coast. He said the same line on Capital Steez’s Talking Shit dissing Odd Future after having a bad exchange on an MTV interview.
Joey is mad weird. Like, why does he think he can take a shot at the throne after being Hollywood for so long? 💀 Man never even tried going after Drake or Cole-like, come on now. 😂 For real though, K Dot wouldn’t even bother replying; that would be pure pity at this point. BUT… Daylyt? Now *that* would be something to watch. If Joey could hold his own against someone like Daylyt, Ab-Soul, the game, maybe then we could even entertain putting him in the convo of "who can go after the throne." Until then? Nah, stay in your lane.
Its giving afro samurai. Kendrick got the number 1 and everyone wanna fight him for it but forget they gotta fight the number 2 first. But number 3 who is now 2 (cole) backed out.
Brother Curtis maybe I'm reaching but Drake just dropped a song that was produced by The Conductor and his flow kind of like Joey's I think Drake found another muse he can drain 😂😂
I’m from Oakland, Ca. West Coast till I die, but I’m also a fan of hip hop. This is a bad take. This is no different than KRS coming out with “The Bridge is Over” or even K Dot coming out with his “Control” verse. It’s out of nowhere & put people at odds. If Joey put this out at the height of the beef it would’ve been swept away like Rick Ross & Game songs. He waited for the right time & then “bombed first” of the year. He won’t be the last, I see 21 through shade, plus Drake is back out. The world hates when the west is winning, so the haters are coming out. They did it to NWA, Cube, Dre & Snoop & now Kendrick. It’s now time for us to bomb back. Not just Kendrick, EVERYONE. Make great art
A bad take about what? People were in their feelings those other times as well. Nothings really changed, a bunch of people didn't like it then, and bunch don't like it now and all their feelings about can still be valid
Journalists are back Curtís King, Justin Hunte , Jeremy Hecht and Thought Crimez. Start holding these rappers accountable for what they are saying get that fake shit out of here. Leave that goofy shit for the reaction podcaster no disrespect but we need balance.
Hip Hop was never competition. It started out as a Thing of unity. Today these Sukuz hide their ENVY and Hate behind "HIP HOP IS COMPETITIVE " IM NOT COMPETING WITH NONE OF THESE GUYS WITH MY OWN DAMN THOUGHTS LOL
I think we should make a clear distinction between hip hop and rap here. I don't think hip hop is competitive, since it's culture and it really wouldn't make sense for culture to be a competition, but isn't rap competitive? It seems to be deep in the DNA of rap that it's competitive ever since some of the first MCs took turns rapping over the same beat that a DJ was spinning. It's natural to compare people doing similar things, whether that be DJ'ing, rapping, breaking etc. so it seems narrow to say that rap has never been conpetitive.
I think people mean with it being competitive is rappers could believe in they pen game and say they the best without nobody getting in they feelings because most people understand rap was about talking your shit.
But HIP HOP, whether rap, breaking, or graffiti was always competitive. Everyone wanted to be the best. There is possibly to be unified and compete. Steel sharpens steel! I wish yall would quit trying to change the narrative
@yakemadecatur6875 nothings wrong with competition Yake... but being jealousy or envious of another rapper then hiding behind "rap is competitive " is LAME AS HELL 🤣🤣
You produced tree of life? That is my favorite Ab song. To me that is one of his only bangers. Respect like the kid taking off his hat at the baseball game meme.
On point with this take...you would think an artist like Joey who believes he is a true artist would appreciate the state hip hop is in but instead he chose to attack the person who help create that energy, seems like jealousy to me and this has 50 cent written all over it
Wouldn't it be weird to randomly pop up in the middle of two niggas beefing and randomly start swinging at one of them even though you have no loyalties to the other party? This is rap, since when is there a designated "beef season"? Also, let's not forget that Kendrick went at Drake and Cole while they were on tour as well. In my view, this is as good a time for Joey to strike as any other
As a 🗽, plz dont listen to these fools! Idk what Joey, Ak, 50 or Fat Joe on but they DO NOT speak for NY. I dont know anyone who aint got ❤ for Cali. And plz dont confuse attention seeking 304s as our spokemen. We dont even move like that!
I appreciate this video, Curtiss. Perspective and information are important. Before listening to your take, all I heard in his song was sulking. I still do, but not with the same irritation. ;)
As someone from neither coast, I love it. The timing is perfect. If it had been dropped during the height it would have been overshadowed. Rappers closer to the beef dropped diss tracks and those got overlooked for all things Kendrick and Drake related. The top of the year is the perfect time to keep this energy going. This could reenergize NYC rappers challenging his King of NY take, Westcoast rappers challenging him, and even southern rappers for once again leaving them out. I'm here for the raps and Kendrick is my goat.
@romaretaylor9953 I’m aware, but It still sounds like an artists response after hearing control for the first time. It’s dated and feels like what a direct response would have sounded like. That’s all I’m saying. This has nothing to do with Killuminati pt 2.
This is the first time I've really, really listened to the bars that Joey is dropping, and he's making it sound like... Well. First of all, it sounds like he was waiting for an excuse to jump in but no one gave him one. But it also sounds like he's trying to make it sound like someone was taking shots at him... But nobody really cares about him like that?
Facts I agree thank you timing would have been great mentioning the West Coast and Kendrick who’s #1 in the world now… that will draw immediate attention to Joey or anyone throwing shade now Joey is a good lyricist if this was fire then perfect timing but this ain’t it… he’s has bars 🥰⚜️
I think Joey is slept on and just taking this window of opportunity to show what’s up his sleeve. If Kendrick engages I think he’ll take the W but it would be a good way for Joey to sharpen up his skills. Win or lose, taking the fade against the champ deserves respect.
Kdot Joey and Soulo go way back he isn’t addressing anything recent just bringing back competitive rap. He putting his coast back on the map. He is the only one who actually understood the Control verse back then he dropped the best response in Killuminati part 2 Kdot even said it himself they will always be tight.
Control was over a decade ago. Where has Joey been while the South and the Canadian have been running hip-hop? Was he not concerned about his coast these past several years? I guess that concern just popped up in the last 6 or 7 months, now that the West has been up, cause the previous 10 years....🦗🦗
@ Where have you been when he dropped Escape From New York, The Light Pack and 2000???? The Canadian is completely irrelevant hasn’t been running anything ever all his fans are 10 years old. Kenny, Joey and Cole the holy trinity. (Jiddy Jid and Denzel up there along with hundreds of rappers not named Drake.
@@RantandBants-c2tthat statement applies to everybody even Kendrick. But he was already relevant. No rapper is gonna be widely accepted in the “big 3” in the game right now if he’s not already relevant.
I thought hip hop was a sport ?? What happened. Been a dot fan since TRAINING DAY/ C4 days. So dot “fans” have a problem someone came out of no where and said “hey I’m a competitor” and now it’s “uh..well..you see..”.
@@CapaBrown713 ppl feel like it's bad timing. I think ppl just isn't taking ny rappers seriously anymore. But let's go by hip hop is a sport take. Joey Badass need more to go after the top. Kendrick is too high. It's like boxing. You retired then want to come back for the belt. Naw you gotta build up your resume for the championship fight
He put out an extremely dope album - All Amerikkkan Badass which was full of positivity , thought provoking, went on and did his thing in raising Kanan as Unique, then popped out on a feature with Conway where All of a sudden he's changing his whole persona ( unique) and referencing Subject matter he had neeeever done, before , got bopped upside the head by some dude at retail store last week, and now has decided to take shots at the West Coast... this cat really think he's "Unique" in real life now. Smh
Late and early is hilarious 😂😂 And idk if this is a diss or just light jabs. I’m fine with competition but know your weight class. The song needed to be bulletproof to go at Kendrick right now and I like Joey but it wasn’t enough.
Honestly to me I love the competition aspect too but I feel like Joey talking about he’s the king of New York he need to clean his backyard in New York if you’re the king cuz it’s alot of bullshit that’s in New York now and that’s need to be taken care of first before attacking the west and especially Kendrick which is the king of this shit right now or he should be coming at the south tho too cuz they’re the ones who provided some of the dopest shit but also some of the worst shit we’ve ever heard
People have short memories!!🤣🤣🤣 Remember, back in like 2016. Kendrick dropped that control verse. Saying that he was the King of NY??!!!!! Joey responded with illuminati 2! Kendrick never responded. Joey is letting him know that he still remembers.
Still salty from a line in a verse that's over a decade old, but it was crickets a few years back when that 69 character was running around claiming to be the King of NY with 50 Cent's cosign? 😂 Yeah, that makes sense...LOL
I don’t get the argument that Joey is coming in at a bad time . Y’all would’ve said he was riding the wave of the hype if he dropped this at all during 2024 . He let the West have they year , and he tired of hearing it. He wants the east to be what it once was ,and he say he back to save his sound
Comments furthering bruh point, straight d lickin. This real rap and lovely to see some actual competition come up. Drake and cole were some scrubs, Joey can spit
If Kendrick claps back right now Joey's instantly polarized because Kendrick is Huge right now he is Hip Hop every discussion in Hip Hop is around him right now so he gets polarized or he double downs if Kendrick doesnt respond then he can wear that on his head like a trophy because Kendrick didnt want none So joey just hopped in the booth to steal a free one
Kendrick could use this exact same lyrics and people would act like it's the coldest shit ever 😂😂😂 i never understood that it's like the lil wayne syndrome
All our legends die or get outcasted like Tyler for over a decade and paving their own way..... But we get one year and it's "too much". HOW IS THERE "TOO MUCH WEST COAST D LICKING" AND KENDRICK HAD TO POP OUT SO PPL STOPPED COMPARING FUCKIN ANITA TO EM???
As much as it pains me to make the comparison, Joey seems similar to Lil Dicky in how he used hip hop to break into the film & television industry. Joey’s always been just an alright rapper. That doesn’t mean he didn’t have amazing lyrics and songs and albums but he’s a moments guy. 1999, a moment. Troy Ave beef, a moment. Saying he’s a better lyricist than Pac, moment. Lying about staring into a solar eclipse to get off Logic’s tour, punching paparazzi, dropping 2000, fighting his photographer… moments, moments moments. Joey claims King of NY but won’t ever speak on/respond to Dyme A Duzin.
I'll respond to Mr. BADass in the voice of Tyler the Creator, all while $0.50 cents is mean mugging from the sidelines. "LaFerrari popping on the 40 with the 5 (Huh), One ticket, two ticket, three ticket, four million, Put that lil' Maybach truck in the garage, huh". We all know that attempt at dissing was actually a disservice. Probably it was an unspoken clause in your Raising Kanan reup.
I hope folks are bout done talking about this, I want him and this out my algo so bad. I see mixed comments so Im hopeful. The only silver lining is seeing reactions and chatter about this everywhere has made me go back and enjoy Euphoria reactions again for the 1000th time after not having watched them in awhile. So other than the appetite this topic gives me to go back and enjoy the battle again and find reactions I hadn't seen before along the way, I could really do without having him in my algo, but I know y'all have to eat so I stick around, but the knee jerk reaction to unsub and select do not recommend when I see this is hilarious 😂
I appreciate your thoughts/perspective on this. I agree. The South snatched the rap game from New Yorkers and not once did anyone jump out the window to say “It’s been too much 🍆 licking..” for the past 20 years😳😳😳😳 but the energy swings to the west coast this past few months and suddenly shots firing at the west???
I know right. All these lil fans getting all defensive, and it's all just healthy competition. Talking about "Kendrick already bodied Drake". Ok? What the hell that gotta do with Joey? 😂
Kendrick shots are cool but using to much westcoast etc line is now positioned as you going at the whole coast n I don’t think that’s his intentions but now it’s broad n leaves himself open for attacks from everyone on that side
I fucks with you Curtiss but callin music “content” is not something I would ever hear you say. Music is music… always has and always will be. The person you were talkin to I salute them. The problem today is artist aren’t artist, they create content more than music.. and not the other way around
@@carldavies4990 Respect, fam. I get where you’re coming from. I struggled with this too. As creators, music is deeply personal, so calling it “content” can feel disrespectful. But from the consumer’s perspective, content simply means something they engage with. It doesn’t diminish the art; it’s just how they experience and interact with it.
@ although content may be something they engage with, the word “content” carries a reductive connotation when applied to music/art. That word tends to group all forms of creative expression together. When we call art “content” we diminish its value and reduce it to a product created just for consumption… rather than a form of expression meant to inspire.
@@carldavies4990We can’t decide what definitions fit which words just because the internet exist and we have bias. Content is any media, service or good available for consumers. You don’t have to like the definition, but it exist the same either way. It’s like how many Americans conflate ignorant with rudeness and loud behavior. Music is content, videos are content, movies, art, books, makeup, medicine, photos, blogs, memes, it’s ALL content.
@@Siculidee you’re missing the point. It’s not the definition of the word, it’s the context it’s used in. This isn’t about bias; it’s about recognizing language shapes perception. To your analogy: just as it’s important to clarify misunderstandings around the word “ignorant”, it’s also important to challenge how we frame words like “content” when they don’t express the essence of what we are describing. Words carry weight… and I believe you actually made that point for me.
Could you let rap be rap , and stop dictating who what when and where , Artist do what an Artist do , if you don't like it don't listen, it's that simple , these are Grown men not your kids to direct lol,
We are all grown man. Some of us have the emotional IQ to give and receive criticism. As participants in Hip Hop culture (I as a rapper, producer, and teacher for 20 years+) it is our responsibility to challenge the norms and continue it's evolution to the best of our ability. Sitting by and saying nothing as the people that don't look like us dictate it's new rules it irresponsible. Not doing that at all.
I don’t mind the shot. But he better keep that same energy if not turn it up more if this is the road he chooses to go down. Cause if not then nobody will take him seriously anymore I can promise you that. He’s gonna J Cole himself
I like the energy and the flows but its like he’s proving what Kendrick mean when he said "What I learned is niggas don't like the West Coast"
@@Devonm251 They hate the fact that the West coast is up..........AGAIN !!
But he's also the same man who said he wanted competition. It's crazy cuz the same people during the beef who was hollering about competition now got it and they bitching like a bunch of hoes because an East Coast rapper threw his hat in.
@Ruffian97731 this is facts too, but he didn't really rep NY. He got maybe 3 bars for saying some real NY shit. He DISSED the West and he barely rep the East. Imo at least
@Devonm251 He had an old azz flow........🎶It's not enough........ninjas looking bad, yeah, somebody's gotta do it....🎵
@Ruffian97731 He should have kept his hat on his head because Joey Dumbass has a weak,old flow.
“Who sent Joey after Kendrick, man/ Tell ‘em 50 did it!!!”
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50 Deep, but it ain’t deep enough
Exactly what I think. Thank you for sharing it before I did.
I was thinking about this yesterday
@@nikkolecoleman338850 on me/Don’t die tryin’ n shit… -Dodger Blue.
Drake, 50, Joey (who works for 50), and Conductor Williams (who produced the Cole, Drake 2025, and Joey disses) have assembled to try to cause chaos before the SB.
“Fifty deep but he ain’t deep enough.” -Kendrick
My thoughts exactly - as we get closer to the Superbowl, the crazies are really coming out
@@MADDYG-p8v They are competing but they're they are coming from a toxic place. They are not competing for the sport of hip hop, they are jealous and want to drag Kendrick down out of envy not because they are more talented.........(Because they're not).
My dumbass never received the line that way. God bless lmao
🎯 #Stevie Wonder would have seen this coming".
🎯 "Stevie Wonder would have seen this coming".
Old ass flows trynna convince me that you they favorite
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Lmao oh shit
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ZAMN. You just made that lyric hit differently for me. 😊
There is imo some weird energy being directed toward Kendrick from too many rappers for my liking. Joey mentioned bandwagon Kendrick fans. I am Gen X. I detested what I was hearing in rap songs many years ago. So, I stopped listening. I wasn’t interested in the negativity and toxicity. In 2024, I heard an artist that caught my attention. I became a fan of his music because I genuinely loved what I heard from all his albums. Because of him, I am now allowing myself to listen to other rap artists’ music again. I am now a little more engaged with hip hop. Kendrick is an artiste of the highest order. I can’t wait to see him in May, God willing.
@@stuartor3414 This is a heavily Drake-coded response.
That last sentence, in particular, sounds like What's The Dirt is using a sock puppet, because that's some middle-class yt bull$hit. Are you, by any chance, a Newfie?
See you at SOFI
@@stuartor3414she never said he claimed to be holier than thou. Furthermore, you should listen to MMATBS instead of running with internet chatter. That album was absolutely NOT all about cheating on Whitney! On that same album he specifically said HE IS NOT YOUR SAVIOR! So can we at least put that narrative to bed?
@@stuartor3414sounds like you need a life of your own instead of checking on a man like he owes you money.
@@stuartor3414 Kendrick has been honest and transparent with his fans about his failures and shortcomings. I respect that. He has shown growth and maturity which many people lack. Growth maturity though don’t mean a person won’t take it there when necessary. With that said, I am glad for various reasons that Kendrick decided to battle Drake.
Fighting with his eyes closed😅😅😅😅
What I don’t hear anybody mentioning is Joey’s ties to 50 Cent, who’s also been openly hating on Dot in support of the Drizzler.
Also keep in mind that Raising Kanan’s newest season is about to premiere within the next month. Any buzz that Joey and 50 can spark right now will benefit Power.
You are absolutely right and nobody is calling it out. 💯 Joey is definitely 50s’ proxy.
Just cause kendrick does fake woke pro black rap doesn’t mean everybody gotta support. Sorry bucko
It’s a pick and choose culture
I mean, it’s basically the only thing I see being discussed in this thread. Er’ry one know Fiddy sent him, probably personally shelled out for the conductor beat!
@@t.shizzle 50 Business ties with this guy and Drizzy has been talked abou
“It’s not enough!”
Tyler the creator vs joey bad would be something interesting...
@@LifeAndTimelessArt That’s where the real problem with the west coast. He said the same line on Capital Steez’s Talking Shit dissing Odd Future after having a bad exchange on an MTV interview.
@@LifeAndTimelessArt I fw Tyler … but come on now he’s literally gonna get smoked dumb take
I’d like to see this
@@Fahtherhow about Ab-Soul vs. Joey?
@@parkermudsen1063 Ab would look weird for that
Joey is mad weird. Like, why does he think he can take a shot at the throne after being Hollywood for so long? 💀 Man never even tried going after Drake or Cole-like, come on now. 😂 For real though, K Dot wouldn’t even bother replying; that would be pure pity at this point. BUT… Daylyt? Now *that* would be something to watch. If Joey could hold his own against someone like Daylyt, Ab-Soul, the game, maybe then we could even entertain putting him in the convo of "who can go after the throne." Until then? Nah, stay in your lane.
You stay killing these breakdowns.
Its giving afro samurai. Kendrick got the number 1 and everyone wanna fight him for it but forget they gotta fight the number 2 first. But number 3 who is now 2 (cole) backed out.
Brother Curtis maybe I'm reaching but Drake just dropped a song that was produced by The Conductor and his flow kind of like Joey's I think Drake found another muse he can drain 😂😂
I’m from Oakland, Ca. West Coast till I die, but I’m also a fan of hip hop. This is a bad take. This is no different than KRS coming out with “The Bridge is Over” or even K Dot coming out with his “Control” verse. It’s out of nowhere & put people at odds.
If Joey put this out at the height of the beef it would’ve been swept away like Rick Ross & Game songs. He waited for the right time & then “bombed first” of the year.
He won’t be the last, I see 21 through shade, plus Drake is back out. The world hates when the west is winning, so the haters are coming out. They did it to NWA, Cube, Dre & Snoop & now Kendrick. It’s now time for us to bomb back. Not just Kendrick, EVERYONE.
Make great art
Dope take homie
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@@iamshawnwilliam chatting
Love this ❤
A bad take about what? People were in their feelings those other times as well. Nothings really changed, a bunch of people didn't like it then, and bunch don't like it now and all their feelings about can still be valid
Journalists are back Curtís King, Justin Hunte , Jeremy Hecht and Thought Crimez. Start holding these rappers accountable for what they are saying get that fake shit out of here. Leave that goofy shit for the reaction podcaster no disrespect but we need balance.
@@Emanon-G7 even tho I don’t deserve the title of a journalist I appreciate you putting me in the conversation of some of the best to do it. Salute!
Aye don’t forget about Rob Markman!!! But salute to you as well Curtis, keep doing ya thing! 💯
Hip Hop was never competition. It started out as a Thing of unity. Today these Sukuz hide their ENVY and Hate behind "HIP HOP IS COMPETITIVE " IM NOT COMPETING WITH NONE OF THESE GUYS WITH MY OWN DAMN THOUGHTS LOL
I'm saying tho! LOL
I think we should make a clear distinction between hip hop and rap here. I don't think hip hop is competitive, since it's culture and it really wouldn't make sense for culture to be a competition, but isn't rap competitive?
It seems to be deep in the DNA of rap that it's competitive ever since some of the first MCs took turns rapping over the same beat that a DJ was spinning.
It's natural to compare people doing similar things, whether that be DJ'ing, rapping, breaking etc. so it seems narrow to say that rap has never been conpetitive.
I think people mean with it being competitive is rappers could believe in they pen game and say they the best without nobody getting in they feelings because most people understand rap was about talking your shit.
But HIP HOP, whether rap, breaking, or graffiti was always competitive. Everyone wanted to be the best. There is possibly to be unified and compete. Steel sharpens steel! I wish yall would quit trying to change the narrative
@yakemadecatur6875 nothings wrong with competition Yake... but being jealousy or envious of another rapper then hiding behind "rap is competitive " is LAME AS HELL 🤣🤣
Side note curtiss where u get that dilla shirt it’s 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Fif said get out there and I will sign you up for another season of what ever show and he said ok boss I will get dragged for Drake
You produced tree of life? That is my favorite Ab song. To me that is one of his only bangers. Respect like the kid taking off his hat at the baseball game meme.
On point with this take...you would think an artist like Joey who believes he is a true artist would appreciate the state hip hop is in but instead he chose to attack the person who help create that energy, seems like jealousy to me and this has 50 cent written all over it
All the battle smoke cleared and then he pops out wanting smoke? 😂😂😂😂
Exactly like wtf lmao he should’ve came out when shit was hot not when everything cool down and everyone on TOUR lol
Wouldn't it be weird to randomly pop up in the middle of two niggas beefing and randomly start swinging at one of them even though you have no loyalties to the other party? This is rap, since when is there a designated "beef season"? Also, let's not forget that Kendrick went at Drake and Cole while they were on tour as well. In my view, this is as good a time for Joey to strike as any other
😂😂😂 I love Curtiss
That lefty sound drop is killing me 😂😂
Oh damn I commented too early.. u just said it lol💯
We on the same page!
Joey should worry about being back New York instead of hating on the west…NY just gimmick rap now
Griselda?😂
The OGs along with a small sampling of NY rappers are trying to keep it alive. Definitely on life support though.
Joey Badass act like Lupe Fiasco. Dying for attention. It’s unbecoming.
Kendrick was doing the same thing.
Huh?@@sinsoreshippromotesconform8218
Lupe is a teacher of Rap @ John’s Hopkins he don’t need attention 💎💯
@@sinsoreshippromotesconform8218 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He's attention seeking because he threw shots at another rapper....as almost every high level rapper does?😂
As a 🗽, plz dont listen to these fools! Idk what Joey, Ak, 50 or Fat Joe on but they DO NOT speak for NY.
I dont know anyone who aint got ❤ for Cali. And plz dont confuse attention seeking 304s as our spokemen. We dont even move like that!
@@iluvdissheet I’m from the Bay and Cali got Love for NY! We ain’t doing no East vs West mess! 🙏🏽❤️ 💪🏽✌🏽 This ain’t 1996!
@steffanshortridge7267 Thank you!
No one wants 1996 again! We shutting that down now.
Joey should battle J Cole before considering Kendrick. Great test for both of them.
Every song on gnx is a response to this 😂😂
the "AGE OF REACHING" chuuuuurrrrrrch
Late and early the party. 😂😂😂
Joey was never in the conversation and never will be.. keep doin voodoo and acting bro 🙌🏾
Dude was a goat @ 16, real ngas know 💯
Joey a day late and a dollar short! #CharmedLocks
I appreciate this video, Curtiss. Perspective and information are important. Before listening to your take, all I heard in his song was sulking. I still do, but not with the same irritation. ;)
As someone from neither coast, I love it. The timing is perfect. If it had been dropped during the height it would have been overshadowed. Rappers closer to the beef dropped diss tracks and those got overlooked for all things Kendrick and Drake related. The top of the year is the perfect time to keep this energy going. This could reenergize NYC rappers challenging his King of NY take, Westcoast rappers challenging him, and even southern rappers for once again leaving them out. I'm here for the raps and Kendrick is my goat.
The pentagrams and chicken was quite extreme but cool
Its his interview to be the next ovo ghost writer 😂, Drake will be reaching out im sure.
This track sounds like Joey just heard “Control” for the first time.
@@kaistreetsvisuals you clearly never heard Killuminati pt 2 which came out days after control lol
@romaretaylor9953 I’m aware, but It still sounds like an artists response after hearing control for the first time. It’s dated and feels like what a direct response would have sounded like. That’s all I’m saying. This has nothing to do with Killuminati pt 2.
Did y'all hear Jason Martin response to this one???
@@renaunap2509 👀 not yet! Gotta peep it
What's the name of the response?
I think it’s Chill Out.
Tyler’s Hey Now remix has some bars too, it seems.
It’s simple here just lyrical exercise
They can't comprehend 🤦🏾♂️
Wassup with Conductor, he got animosity for Kendrick?!
This is the first time I've really, really listened to the bars that Joey is dropping, and he's making it sound like... Well. First of all, it sounds like he was waiting for an excuse to jump in but no one gave him one. But it also sounds like he's trying to make it sound like someone was taking shots at him... But nobody really cares about him like that?
Trying to capitalize on Kendricks fame right now 😅
Facts I agree thank you timing would have been great mentioning the West Coast and Kendrick who’s #1 in the world now… that will draw immediate attention to Joey or anyone throwing shade now Joey is a good lyricist if this was fire then perfect timing but this ain’t it… he’s has bars 🥰⚜️
I am a turning people on to you because of your content! Keep it going loving the great takes!
Kendrick watching the party die and this dude coming too late. The party is over, Joey ! 😂
I hope Joey drops an actual diss.
I think Joey is slept on and just taking this window of opportunity to show what’s up his sleeve.
If Kendrick engages I think he’ll take the W but it would be a good way for Joey to sharpen up his skills.
Win or lose, taking the fade against the champ deserves respect.
Funny that kendrick pushed his album release date in the oast to let joey have a moment, i do hope this will energize joey.
I know I'm not the only one that feel this way but my days out who was like several years late.
Kdot Joey and Soulo go way back he isn’t addressing anything recent just bringing back competitive rap. He putting his coast back on the map. He is the only one who actually understood the Control verse back then he dropped the best response in Killuminati part 2 Kdot even said it himself they will always be tight.
Control was over a decade ago. Where has Joey been while the South and the Canadian have been running hip-hop? Was he not concerned about his coast these past several years? I guess that concern just popped up in the last 6 or 7 months, now that the West has been up, cause the previous 10 years....🦗🦗
@ Where have you been when he dropped Escape From New York, The Light Pack and 2000???? The Canadian is completely irrelevant hasn’t been running anything ever all his fans are 10 years old. Kenny, Joey and Cole the holy trinity. (Jiddy Jid and Denzel up there along with hundreds of rappers not named Drake.
He took a page from 50 cent’s book, creating beef to be relevant.
I hope Dat same statement you jus made also go to kendrick cause he started
@@RantandBants-c2tthat statement applies to everybody even Kendrick. But he was already relevant. No rapper is gonna be widely accepted in the “big 3” in the game right now if he’s not already relevant.
Amazing analysis 💪🏽
That’s what I said. Either drake or 50
Joey Bad$$ vs K Dot is everything J Cloe fans thought it would be with him
Joey is cool with a friendly fade, so should we
@ we is a people, a culture. You can remove yourself I’ll stay where I am
@ lol I’m not competing with Joey, what are you on bruh
Late to the party🥴🤣
I thought hip hop was a sport ?? What happened. Been a dot fan since TRAINING DAY/ C4 days.
So dot “fans” have a problem someone came out of no where and said “hey I’m a competitor” and now it’s “uh..well..you see..”.
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@@CapaBrown713 ppl feel like it's bad timing. I think ppl just isn't taking ny rappers seriously anymore. But let's go by hip hop is a sport take. Joey Badass need more to go after the top. Kendrick is too high. It's like boxing. You retired then want to come back for the belt. Naw you gotta build up your resume for the championship fight
@@freeweights101 This exactly how I feel about it. Your points is right on the money for me
Joey approach seems weak. He ain’t have this energy for the south or Drake when they’re the ones who were in the top spot the last 10 years.
@ replace Kendrick with Joey and drake with Kendrick? What’s the issue now? It seems nowadays like y’all need entertainment on your own schedule.
He put out an extremely dope album - All Amerikkkan Badass which was full of positivity , thought provoking, went on and did his thing in raising Kanan as Unique, then popped out on a feature with Conway where All of a sudden he's changing his whole persona ( unique) and referencing Subject matter he had neeeever done, before , got bopped upside the head by some dude at retail store last week, and now has decided to take shots at the West Coast... this cat really think he's "Unique" in real life now. Smh
I saw that too 😂😂😂 like weird time-line lmaoooo
@@joesephbeebe9049 no it’s not AABA came out in 2017 Joey been competitive since 2012-13 lol fans been known this
Late and early is hilarious 😂😂
And idk if this is a diss or just light jabs. I’m fine with competition but know your weight class. The song needed to be bulletproof to go at Kendrick right now and I like Joey but it wasn’t enough.
Joey Badass has always been overrated and hyped to death. Dude is at best average imo
He good but his angle here weird asf can't be bias
This hits harder with the Cam’ron Oh Boy
It's not enough.......😊
Rappers without content are like gossipers who just talk about people and other people business because they "lack big ideas".......
Bro this shit was SPOT ON!
Honestly to me I love the competition aspect too but I feel like Joey talking about he’s the king of New York he need to clean his backyard in New York if you’re the king cuz it’s alot of bullshit that’s in New York now and that’s need to be taken care of first before attacking the west and especially Kendrick which is the king of this shit right now or he should be coming at the south tho too cuz they’re the ones who provided some of the dopest shit but also some of the worst shit we’ve ever heard
Punching with his eyes closed 😅😅😅😅
Glazing with his eyes closed
A new Raising Kanan season must be dropping soon. 50 been in his ear
People have short memories!!🤣🤣🤣 Remember, back in like 2016. Kendrick dropped that control verse. Saying that he was the King of NY??!!!!! Joey responded with illuminati 2! Kendrick never responded. Joey is letting him know that he still remembers.
💯 Real ones know
Still salty from a line in a verse that's over a decade old, but it was crickets a few years back when that 69 character was running around claiming to be the King of NY with 50 Cent's cosign? 😂 Yeah, that makes sense...LOL
2013 not 16
2013 not 16
@@_NoHandle_yeah they let 69 become the king of NY lol. Every NY artist was quiet as a mouse
Could it just be a call to arms for New York rappers out here trying to sound like everywhere else but New York?
Timing sus!
17:00 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I don’t get the argument that Joey is coming in at a bad time . Y’all would’ve said he was riding the wave of the hype if he dropped this at all during 2024 . He let the West have they year , and he tired of hearing it. He wants the east to be what it once was ,and he say he back to save his sound
West ain’t have a year since 2014. Why didn’t he come for Drake or the south when they been running it for 10+ years.
You have to challenge the south if bringing NY back is really your goal.
Comments furthering bruh point, straight d lickin. This real rap and lovely to see some actual competition come up. Drake and cole were some scrubs, Joey can spit
If Kendrick claps back right now Joey's instantly polarized because Kendrick is Huge right now he is Hip Hop every discussion in Hip Hop is around him right now so he gets polarized or he double downs if Kendrick doesnt respond then he can wear that on his head like a trophy because Kendrick didnt want none So joey just hopped in the booth to steal a free one
Kendrick could use this exact same lyrics and people would act like it's the coldest shit ever 😂😂😂 i never understood that it's like the lil wayne syndrome
50 CENTS is messy
All our legends die or get outcasted like Tyler for over a decade and paving their own way..... But we get one year and it's "too much". HOW IS THERE "TOO MUCH WEST COAST D LICKING" AND KENDRICK HAD TO POP OUT SO PPL STOPPED COMPARING FUCKIN ANITA TO EM???
14:32 - That part.
Tell em 50 did it... like waaahhh 👶...50 deep but it aint deep enuff 😅
He said it because Nas was working with Dre I think. I could be wrong.
My Fav Fine azz RUclipsr to Crush Om 😍😍😍😍😍😍
As much as it pains me to make the comparison, Joey seems similar to Lil Dicky in how he used hip hop to break into the film & television industry. Joey’s always been just an alright rapper. That doesn’t mean he didn’t have amazing lyrics and songs and albums but he’s a moments guy. 1999, a moment. Troy Ave beef, a moment. Saying he’s a better lyricist than Pac, moment. Lying about staring into a solar eclipse to get off Logic’s tour, punching paparazzi, dropping 2000, fighting his photographer… moments, moments moments. Joey claims King of NY but won’t ever speak on/respond to Dyme A Duzin.
another Drake actor
Joey responded to Conrol. This is not new. and bar for bar he can spit with him.
I'll respond to Mr. BADass in the voice of Tyler the Creator, all while $0.50 cents is mean mugging from the sidelines.
"LaFerrari popping on the 40 with the 5 (Huh), One ticket, two ticket, three ticket, four million, Put that lil' Maybach truck in the garage, huh".
We all know that attempt at dissing was actually a disservice. Probably it was an unspoken clause in your Raising Kanan reup.
Why hasn’t he said anything about the south dominating for the last decade or so? One year of the west and he’s feeling this way 😭😭
I like your content, keep - up, the good- job,+( lol!!!) 😅😅😍😍😍😁😁😁😎😂😆🤔🤔💯💯💯💯
I love the record because he's a lyricist. Feels like hip hop is on point this year so far
He's very- late- huh???!!+(lol!!!)😎😎😎😂😆😆🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔💯💯💯💯
I hope folks are bout done talking about this, I want him and this out my algo so bad. I see mixed comments so Im hopeful. The only silver lining is seeing reactions and chatter about this everywhere has made me go back and enjoy Euphoria reactions again for the 1000th time after not having watched them in awhile. So other than the appetite this topic gives me to go back and enjoy the battle again and find reactions I hadn't seen before along the way, I could really do without having him in my algo, but I know y'all have to eat so I stick around, but the knee jerk reaction to unsub and select do not recommend when I see this is hilarious 😂
I appreciate your thoughts/perspective on this. I agree. The South snatched the rap game from New Yorkers and not once did anyone jump out the window to say “It’s been too much 🍆 licking..” for the past 20 years😳😳😳😳 but the energy swings to the west coast this past few months and suddenly shots firing at the west???
Love Joey’s music, but this just screams “I wanna be relevant” or “ I have an album coming out soon” cause tbh, who tf was looking for this?
Maybe it’s me - but the beat kinda boring for what he tryna say 😂 still a fan though
he aint late he didnt wanna be part of drake v kendrick he wants west vs east again joey and tyler are chill so its prolly just friendly competition
I know right. All these lil fans getting all defensive, and it's all just healthy competition. Talking about "Kendrick already bodied Drake". Ok? What the hell that gotta do with Joey? 😂
I luv ya thumbnail 😂😂😂😂 ya face is definitely giving wtf vibes 😂😂😂😂
Kendrick shots are cool but using to much westcoast etc line is now positioned as you going at the whole coast n I don’t think that’s his intentions but now it’s broad n leaves himself open for attacks from everyone on that side
I fucks with you Curtiss but callin music “content” is not something I would ever hear you say. Music is music… always has and always will be. The person you were talkin to I salute them.
The problem today is artist aren’t artist, they create content more than music.. and not the other way around
@@carldavies4990 Respect, fam. I get where you’re coming from. I struggled with this too. As creators, music is deeply personal, so calling it “content” can feel disrespectful. But from the consumer’s perspective, content simply means something they engage with. It doesn’t diminish the art; it’s just how they experience and interact with it.
@ although content may be something they engage with, the word “content” carries a reductive connotation when applied to music/art.
That word tends to group all forms of creative expression together.
When we call art “content” we diminish its value and reduce it to a product created just for consumption… rather than a form of expression meant to inspire.
@@carldavies4990We can’t decide what definitions fit which words just because the internet exist and we have bias. Content is any media, service or good available for consumers. You don’t have to like the definition, but it exist the same either way. It’s like how many Americans conflate ignorant with rudeness and loud behavior. Music is content, videos are content, movies, art, books, makeup, medicine, photos, blogs, memes, it’s ALL content.
@@Siculidee you’re missing the point. It’s not the definition of the word, it’s the context it’s used in. This isn’t about bias; it’s about recognizing language shapes perception.
To your analogy: just as it’s important to clarify misunderstandings around the word “ignorant”, it’s also important to challenge how we frame words like “content” when they don’t express the essence of what we are describing. Words carry weight… and I believe you actually made that point for me.
Could you let rap be rap , and stop dictating who what when and where , Artist do what an Artist do , if you don't like it don't listen, it's that simple , these are Grown men not your kids to direct lol,
We are all grown man. Some of us have the emotional IQ to give and receive criticism. As participants in Hip Hop culture (I as a rapper, producer, and teacher for 20 years+) it is our responsibility to challenge the norms and continue it's evolution to the best of our ability. Sitting by and saying nothing as the people that don't look like us dictate it's new rules it irresponsible. Not doing that at all.
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I don’t mind the shot. But he better keep that same energy if not turn it up more if this is the road he chooses to go down. Cause if not then nobody will take him seriously anymore I can promise you that. He’s gonna J Cole himself
4:40 my problem is that the south been having running things and now the West is getting back to the top now he has a problem Hmt West West 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲