For anyone looking at the chrome paint and not liking it, please read this before you complain. The guide bars were heavily pitted meaning I had 3 options. [Option 1, replace them and remove originality] [Option 2, Grind way back to remove pits, this would make the guide bars very small diameter] [Option 3, Fill in the pits and improve the look with chrome paint. This maintains the original bars. It is for display purposes only. Of course if it was being used the paint would flake off so if those few could stop pointing out the obvious that would be great! Thanks for watching!
If you have (or have access to) a compressor and a pneumatic hammer drill - load the drill with flat ended bit, and hammer all around the rust bonded pieces. The intense vibration can usually make short work of breaking the rusty pieces free. I own a professional custom furniture design and fabrication firm, that vise can absolutely be put back into service. Don’t just display it, throw some hard wood faces on the jaws, and mount it to a workbench! (A cool tool!) Great vise resto-mod. Keep doing what you do!
I think you made the best and most meaningful decision. And now you have a tool that can once again being used and that is the most important thing of a restauration. It is not a museum piece of great historical value. It is a tool that is meant to being used.
So much advice from people who don’t have a channel. I’ve been restoring for many years and sure, there are other ways to do it, but I think it’s personal choice and what equipment you have. You know it’s a wood working vice and yet people get all hot under the collar because you didn’t show it with the wooden faces in place. Others complaining that there is no grease on it, well I have never seen a woodworker put grease on a woodworking vice as the last thing you want on raw timber is grease. I think you did a marvellous job as most people would have tossed it in the bin. Well saved. On the whole most of the comments were positive but the negative nannies have got to hurt. Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
I very much enjoy watching you work diligently and completing projects. You make everything look great (and run)! This makes me proud to be an anglophile. Thank you!
Great job. Forget those who bang on about fitting wooden cheeks. You have restored the vice & no vice ever comes with wooden cheeks supplied. We fit our own. Lovely project.
Great job. I forwarded the link to my step dad who worked for the company that made it in wednesbury west midlands. They sold the tool business to record but carried on making bolts, nuts and bright drawn steel.
Very nice vise restoration work here, well done... All that is left is a pair of hardwood jaws, perhaps a couple inches wider than the steel jaws, mount it to your workbench & you will have a fully functioning woodworkers vise... Both the primer & the final coat of paint acted as an excellent filler on the sliding shafts, very well done. The undercarriage is the heart of the system & looked to be in excellent condition... Thanks, Bill on the Hill... :~)
You have a lot more intestinal fortitude than I, sir. I would have tied a chain on that rusty relic and used it as a boat anchor. Excellent restoration and I especially like the red hammer tone. No issue with the chrome paint.
Fair play for making something look great and, in the short term at least, useable ... sort of. Like the Irish fellow who was asked if he could tell the way to Dublin and replied 'I can for sure, but If I were you, I wouldn't be starting out from here' On a practical note the money spent on fancy paints and rust strippers etc would have bought one of these vices in far better condition. I get that it was a challenge to do it and that restoring them is fun, but my advice to others would be to find a better one in the first place. If it is a family heirloom, I'd find a better vice, restore it and tell a little white lie to my grandkids in my will.
Looks gorgeous, and definitely worth saving, however, try getting in to electrolysis for rust removal, and plating for putting metal back on objects. You'll get very similar results cosmetically, yet the item will be fully functional.
Amazing that you were able to rescue a piece that was in such horrible shape. It looked like something from a shipwreck before and a beauty queen after. Nice work
There is a big difference between honest feedback and "complaining". It's YOUR vise so no one here has anything to complain about. But this video is open to comments and it is not unreasonable for people to express their views honestly. I don't see any posts I would describe as 'trolling'. You might not agree with some of the views expressed but people have taken the time to comment. You have mostly positive feedback and some constructive criticism. Both are valuable. It sometimes helps to recognise that.
You’ve tried which is the main thing, and once you put the wooden jaws in you have a vice. Personally I wouldn’t have painted the rods or acme thread, I think you’re going to have problems further down the line. I would have given the acme thread a really good washing and degreasing (washing up liquid would do). The rods are purely as guides and a few dings wont do any harm, where paint could clog things up in time. If I was to do anything maybe I’d touch them with a mig or gasless flux then grind them back down to smooth. But that won’t affect the value or how well it runs, it just gives you the sense of a job well done. However, you haven’t done anything to damage the vice on a permanent basis and you can always return to it at some future point. You’ve given it your best shot and no one can take that away from you.
I'm pretty sure there's got to be an easier way to get the rust off, like soaking a lot longer in vinegar or oxalic acid. But I get that it getting there is over half the fun... Nice work.
Add the 2 missing flat wooden faces, bolt under your bench top, and use it. These vices are made for wood working so don't exert huge pressures, so paint unlikely to chip, and painted rails will likely last another life time. If it really bothers someone replace the two rails, I'm sure they are a common diameter (3/4"?).
Probably the most challenging vice restoration I have seen. I always like to point out one thing. Had you sanded the lettering a little flat, and painted them white, they would really pop and stand out. Other than the fact I would like to have seen a baked on powder coat, I say great job. 👍
Well, that was oddly satisfying. In between looking at my computer monitor, and the pile of rust at my feet that at one time might have been a pretty nice, all-steel pivoting bench-vise, of course.
Tom Coulthard so if you restored an old car, and it had only 2 wheels and 1 door missing, would you replace the parts with new ones or just leave them off it when you had it finished 😂
Great restoration. I love seeing old tools come back to life. The epoxy and chrome paint worked extremely well and maintained the diameter of the shafts. Great idea. Keep up the good work.
Machinery Restorer, Okay, I read your reason/excuse for painting the two guide bars and the main screw rod instead of making the necessary repairs. But, when you place the video on the internet for all to see, then you must expect some negative feedback on the methods that you used in the restoration. As such, in my personal opinion, painting a moving metal against metal part for any reason is ridiculous, but even more-so to cover up rust pitting, metal scaring, hammer indentations, and chipping is anything but professional and is something that no restorer would even consider doing. FYI: There are many metal fillers on the market, J&B Metal Weld which can be found in all hardware stores, is one product that is used extensively by those who cannot rebuild/repair a metal piece or part by the preferred method of rod welding and then grinding the welded fill-in to the correct size. Additionally, and the worst of all, reassembling the vice without even cleaning out and restoring the vice's inner body threading is another indication that you are more interested in painting over to hide the illness of time and neglect than in actually taking the time and effort to restore the vice as near as possible to its original design.
About half way through, you had a restored tool. Everything after that (with the possible exception of the red paint) was just cosmetic "prettification". You know the guide bars (shafts) would not normally be painted, right? Their only purpose is to stop the vice from twisting when you tighten it up. The lead screw would certainly not be painted - a fact that was illustrated by the fact that half the paint flaked off the first time you screwed the parts together. You were lucky with your cracking technique that you didn't crack the body and wreck the vice altogether - much better to be patient and just use fluids to penetrate between the parts. I'm not sure why you cut the end off the handle / tommy bar - yes it was rusty, but it was probably still strong enough to resist you bending it in normal use.
Me parese que quedo muy bien. Pero si me lo permites queria decirte que en mi opinión reestaurar algo antiguo es volverlo a como era en su tiempo, si le pones esa barra nueva cromada y pintas el tornillo de plateado ya pierde su aspecto Vintage. Saludos desde Panamá.
Exactly my thoughts... And it wont work well with that paint on the sliding bars/threads. Then after operating it a few times the paint will start to chip off and itll look like crap again... He shouldve left the sliding bars/threads raw and just coat them with oil...
Good job. There are a lot of these discarded tools just waiting to be refurbished and given new life. New tools aren’t made the way these old tools were made.
Love your videos. You should restore an old Husqvarna sit on mower as they are fairly cheap and easy get hold of but run strong an look good when done😀
Machinery Restorer why do people make obvious comments when you just got through asking them not to? But to make a number 4 observation, there was another option on the guide bars. Gently heat them up, and fill in the pits with brass, let them cool down and fine sand them and then have them chromed. That would have been another option, but also an extremely pricey option, especially with price of having them chromed instead of painted. Just an observation. Overall, you did an excellent job.
For anyone looking at the chrome paint and not liking it, please read this before you complain.
The guide bars were heavily pitted meaning I had 3 options.
[Option 1, replace them and remove originality]
[Option 2, Grind way back to remove pits, this would make the guide bars very small diameter]
[Option 3, Fill in the pits and improve the look with chrome paint. This maintains the original bars.
It is for display purposes only. Of course if it was being used the paint would flake off so if those few could stop pointing out the obvious that would be great!
Thanks for watching!
Machinery Restorer what did you use to fill in the pits?
If you have (or have access to) a compressor and a pneumatic hammer drill - load the drill with flat ended bit, and hammer all around the rust bonded pieces. The intense vibration can usually make short work of breaking the rusty pieces free.
I own a professional custom furniture design and fabrication firm, that vise can absolutely be put back into service. Don’t just display it, throw some hard wood faces on the jaws, and mount it to a workbench! (A cool tool!)
Great vise resto-mod. Keep doing what you do!
[Option 4, grease the sliders and run them.
I think you made the best and most meaningful decision. And now you have a tool that can once again being used and that is the most important thing of a restauration. It is not a museum piece of great historical value. It is a tool that is meant to being used.
@@oh1900 "For display purposes only" he says it himself. I have plenty of old iron that I can look at. That goes for scrap or building other projects.
So much advice from people who don’t have a channel. I’ve been restoring for many years and sure, there are other ways to do it, but I think it’s personal choice and what equipment you have. You know it’s a wood working vice and yet people get all hot under the collar because you didn’t show it with the wooden faces in place. Others complaining that there is no grease on it, well I have never seen a woodworker put grease on a woodworking vice as the last thing you want on raw timber is grease. I think you did a marvellous job as most people would have tossed it in the bin. Well saved. On the whole most of the comments were positive but the negative nannies have got to hurt.
Cheers Stuart 🇦🇺
Very nice work! Nothing better than seeing something destined for the scrap pile made useful again.
I very much enjoy watching you work diligently and completing projects. You make everything look great (and run)! This makes me proud to be an anglophile. Thank you!
Great job. Forget those who bang on about fitting wooden cheeks. You have restored the vice & no vice ever comes with wooden cheeks supplied. We fit our own. Lovely project.
Oh Man Look At That Vise!!! Very Nice And Very Much Original!!! Thankyou for showing that very classy Production!!!
excellent restoration. You don't have to justify what you did, you gave that vice a few more working years left,Bravo thanks for the video.
Came out far better than I would have imagined!
Great job. I forwarded the link to my step dad who worked for the company that made it in wednesbury west midlands. They sold the tool business to record but carried on making bolts, nuts and bright drawn steel.
You may find out how old it is from wodentools.com
What a beautiful piece of work. Nothing like the old stuff
It gives me such a lift to see new life brought to old tools! Great job!
needs a few hard blocks of oak to dress up that vise .........................
Very nice vise restoration work here, well done... All that is left is a pair of hardwood jaws, perhaps a couple inches wider than the steel jaws, mount it to your workbench & you will have a fully functioning woodworkers vise...
Both the primer & the final coat of paint acted as an excellent filler on the sliding shafts, very well done. The undercarriage is the heart of the system & looked to be in excellent condition...
Thanks,
Bill on the Hill... :~)
You have a lot more intestinal fortitude than I, sir. I would have tied a chain on that rusty relic and used it as a boat anchor. Excellent restoration and I especially like the red hammer tone. No issue with the chrome paint.
Absolutely brilliant, your work is a great inspiration for my own videos😊👍
Didn't think you could do it great job
That was REALLY impressive! That vise was one foot in the grave, but you gave it new life!
Beautiful work👍
The vice squad needs one of these.
That vise is supposed to have wood on the jaws. That's what the screw holes are for
It's a good restoration. If you do anything as rusty again, I would suggest using electrolysis as the main rust treatment.
absolutely !
your work is amazing. restored old vice based upon your videos
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Very nice work Daggerwin
A lot of work and great work.
Well done.
Very Good Restoration
Woden also had a very efficient quick release version which is a joy to use.
Excellent restoration.
I think it came out rather nice. If what the OP said below about wooden plates, I'd add them and work it!
Brilliant craftsmanship!👍🏻❤️😊nice paint results for the amount of heavy rust damage!👍🏻
Fantastic job, another tool saved. Enjoyed watching it. Thank you.
great restoration as vices are so expensive to buy nowadays
Fair play for making something look great and, in the short term at least, useable ... sort of.
Like the Irish fellow who was asked if he could tell the way to Dublin and replied 'I can for sure, but If I were you, I wouldn't be starting out from here'
On a practical note the money spent on fancy paints and rust strippers etc would have bought one of these vices in far better condition. I get that it was a challenge to do it and that restoring them is fun, but my advice to others would be to find a better one in the first place. If it is a family heirloom, I'd find a better vice, restore it and tell a little white lie to my grandkids in my will.
Another great restore buddy great work as always..
I swear mc-51 either kicks ass or they sponsor every restoration channel on RUclips.
That chrome paint is going to come off with use
It is true.
Houston! We have a vise ! Affirmative!!!!
Looks gorgeous, and definitely worth saving, however, try getting in to electrolysis for rust removal, and plating for putting metal back on objects.
You'll get very similar results cosmetically, yet the item will be fully functional.
Glad I found your channel.. I love restoring machines myself.
I have 3 of these old woodworker vices. I think I will fix them up. Thank you for the video.
nice resto job great video
Good restoration 👍👍👍
Looks great 😀
Nice clean up, repair and a beautiful restoration.
Fantastic job sir thank you
you could have used electrolysis instead, cut your rust removal in half.
Nice job !
Amazing that you were able to rescue a piece that was in such horrible shape. It looked like something from a shipwreck before and a beauty queen after. Nice work
Te felicito por el buen trabajo 🇵🇪
Nicely done
There is a big difference between honest feedback and "complaining". It's YOUR vise so no one here has anything to complain about. But this video is open to comments and it is not unreasonable for people to express their views honestly. I don't see any posts I would describe as 'trolling'. You might not agree with some of the views expressed but people have taken the time to comment.
You have mostly positive feedback and some constructive criticism. Both are valuable. It sometimes helps to recognise that.
Most of the complaints were when the video was initially uploaded, since then the feedback has been much more constructive.
Great job!
Great job on the restoration.
Well done , I think it is great to see these wonderful tools brought back to service , elbow grease is wonderful stuff best regards Pete
Great to see a old pice of work being restored well done ☺
You’ve tried which is the main thing, and once you put the wooden jaws in you have a vice.
Personally I wouldn’t have painted the rods or acme thread, I think you’re going to have problems further down the line. I would have given the acme thread a really good washing and degreasing (washing up liquid would do). The rods are purely as guides and a few dings wont do any harm, where paint could clog things up in time. If I was to do anything maybe I’d touch them with a mig or gasless flux then grind them back down to smooth. But that won’t affect the value or how well it runs, it just gives you the sense of a job well done.
However, you haven’t done anything to damage the vice on a permanent basis and you can always return to it at some future point. You’ve given it your best shot and no one can take that away from you.
It looks like it has had several years of "rust treatment". :-)
I love how dedicated you are
Very nice sir. Very nice indeed
Lots of work to bring that old vise back to life. Personally I would love one like that in my work shop. Great work
Thought the vice was a goner but you restored to life. Great work enjoyed the video.
I'm pretty sure there's got to be an easier way to get the rust off, like soaking a lot longer in vinegar or oxalic acid. But I get that it getting there is over half the fun... Nice work.
Very nice job...
Add the 2 missing flat wooden faces, bolt under your bench top, and use it. These vices are made for wood working so don't exert huge pressures, so paint unlikely to chip, and painted rails will likely last another life time. If it really bothers someone replace the two rails, I'm sure they are a common diameter (3/4"?).
I'm surprised that your metal did not crack with all of that heating and cooling quickly trick. Nice job on the restore though.
Turned out great!
Probably the most challenging vice restoration I have seen. I always like to point out one thing. Had you sanded the lettering a little flat, and painted them white, they would really pop and stand out. Other than the fact I would like to have seen a baked on powder coat, I say great job. 👍
Wow nice job
Very good job keep up the good work
Good Work
Great job!!! Thanks for sharing!!!
A good job. And birds singing
Nice,ready for another 100yrs
Love this videos where you turn something which someone would off scrapped to it looking brand new keep up the great work and videos 👍
Hope you can get a lathe soon!
Well, that was oddly satisfying. In between looking at my computer monitor, and the pile of rust at my feet that at one time might have been a pretty nice, all-steel pivoting bench-vise, of course.
This vice is supposed to have 2 wood plates on it not just metal i have two of these
Hence the counter-sunk screw holes on the plates. I also have two of these, but the quick-release versions.
I have a huge Penis but they're not all the same
🤣🤣🤣🤣u always get one lol
Tom Coulthard i think youll find its u read bk your comment lol talk about stating the bloody obvious
Tom Coulthard so if you restored an old car, and it had only 2 wheels and 1 door missing, would you replace the parts with new ones or just leave them off it when you had it finished 😂
Nothing beats the sound of a black Bird first thing in the morning. & At night...
nothing beats waking up to the sound of a bald eagle at exactly 6:30 every morning
Looks good that does
Great restoration. I love seeing old tools come back to life. The epoxy and chrome paint worked extremely well and maintained the diameter of the shafts. Great idea. Keep up the good work.
Great job
Machinery Restorer,
Okay, I read your reason/excuse for painting the two guide bars and the main screw rod instead of making the necessary repairs. But, when you place the video on the internet for all to see, then you must expect some negative feedback on the methods that you used in the restoration.
As such, in my personal opinion, painting a moving metal against metal part for any reason is ridiculous, but even more-so to cover up rust pitting, metal scaring, hammer indentations, and chipping is anything but professional and is something that no restorer would even consider doing.
FYI: There are many metal fillers on the market, J&B Metal Weld which can be found in all hardware stores, is one product that is used extensively by those who cannot rebuild/repair a metal piece or part by the preferred method of rod welding and then grinding the welded fill-in to the correct size.
Additionally, and the worst of all, reassembling the vice without even cleaning out and restoring the vice's inner body threading is another indication that you are more interested in painting over to hide the illness of time and neglect than in actually taking the time and effort to restore the vice as near as possible to its original design.
Well said.
About half way through, you had a restored tool. Everything after that (with the possible exception of the red paint) was just cosmetic "prettification". You know the guide bars (shafts) would not normally be painted, right? Their only purpose is to stop the vice from twisting when you tighten it up. The lead screw would certainly not be painted - a fact that was illustrated by the fact that half the paint flaked off the first time you screwed the parts together. You were lucky with your cracking technique that you didn't crack the body and wreck the vice altogether - much better to be patient and just use fluids to penetrate between the parts. I'm not sure why you cut the end off the handle / tommy bar - yes it was rusty, but it was probably still strong enough to resist you bending it in normal use.
Exactly...
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No grease on the screw?
Oh my god! You ve forgetten the most important stage of repairing. You have'nt covered the letters with the white paint! :-0
Me parese que quedo muy bien.
Pero si me lo permites queria decirte que en mi opinión reestaurar algo antiguo es volverlo a como era en su tiempo, si le pones esa barra nueva cromada y pintas el tornillo de plateado ya pierde su aspecto Vintage. Saludos desde Panamá.
That chrome spray paint just hurts my heart. There is no shame in some pitted steel on an old tool.
The vise had character, now looks like box store garbage.....also way too shinny...
This is a meaningless embellishment.
Exactly my thoughts... And it wont work well with that paint on the sliding bars/threads. Then after operating it a few times the paint will start to chip off and itll look like crap again... He shouldve left the sliding bars/threads raw and just coat them with oil...
Great Job !!!
Nice use of JB Weld! I don't understand the quenching with water though. Good job.
Good job. There are a lot of these discarded tools just waiting to be refurbished and given new life. New tools aren’t made the way these old tools were made.
Brilliant job
Great job. Well done.
Love your videos. You should restore an old Husqvarna sit on mower as they are fairly cheap and easy get hold of but run strong an look good when done😀
Machinery Restorer why do people make obvious comments when you just got through asking them not to? But to make a number 4 observation, there was another option on the guide bars. Gently heat them up, and fill in the pits with brass, let them cool down and fine sand them and then have them chromed. That would have been another option, but also an extremely pricey option, especially with price of having them chromed instead of painted. Just an observation. Overall, you did an excellent job.
Thanks :) That is a very good suggestion, I didn't think of that!
another excellent restore! great job Daggerwin
Good job.
Not a fan of the chrome paint. But it's nice to see an old vise back to lifetime
Good job 😁
is not a restoration. it's bring an istrument to other days. GOOOD WORK!
So satisfying to watch!