You guys are the most underrated source of fantasy rankings / info out there. Your positions are well thought out and love the risk factor framework. Keep doing great work!!
@@FantasyStockExchange also question for you guys: am I crazy to think that Puka's half-ppr ppg could actually increase YY in 2024? He averaged 14.6 0.5 ppr ppg last year and 14.3 ppg in games after Kupp returned. Typically WRs increase their production by a lot in year 2, and I could also see him winning some incremental share from Kupp this year.
CeeDee is overvalued at 1 I feel, I took him last year with the last 1st round pick and won the lottery but I'd go with Tyreek or CMC with their track record, I just dont trust Dak
The bull case scenarios, for the Jets offense are intact, but they are far riskier than the bull case scenarios for the Falcons offense. Just based on division alone the Jets have a far more difficult schedule. Then the more important factor is Rogers. Rogers hasn’t thrown for more than 300 yards in a game since 2021. He also plays at one of the slowest paces of any starting quarterback in the league, regardless of the offense that he is in. This is how he works. His thing is efficiency and it always has been. But that efficiency was not there in Green Bay at the end and he had elite assets in Davante Adams and Aaron Jones. I love breece, but robinson’s floor in the new scheme is higher than hall’s floor. And their ceilings are the same. There is real concern that Aaron Rodgers just doesn’t have it anymore and that is better than what the Jets had last year it’s still isn’t indicative of incredibly high ceilings for both hall and Wilson. Nathaniel Hackett is also wildly overvalued. Give me Robinson and the Atlanta offense with either quarterback over the Jets.
Have the 12th pick in a 12 team half PPR league. Do you think it’s better from a team building perspective to take Puka and Harrison back to back if Gibbs is still on the board?
@@FantasyStockExchangethey haven’t offered yet, curious as what you could expect to get from moving off the 1.01 in a redraft league as I’ve never considered it before. You said you moved from top 3 to 6, what did you get for that? There are so many sites to figure out dynasty trades, but redraft I have no idea how to value a trade.
What I like about y’all is different takes. I don’t think you both should be agreeing because obviously one is for ceiling and one is for floor. There are definitely people who want to build their teams based on ceiling or floor so different takes helps with that.
@@FantasyStockExchange I’ve always found myself to draft steady players over high ceiling so to not see you two having the order the same was great especially with the explanation to why. Be great when y’all do a full draft explaining why you made the picks you did because if u going safe with certain positions does that mean getting a stud qb 2nd or 3rd round?
1. Top 3 2. 6-8 (to catch the end of the mid 1sts tier) 3. 4-5 (despite having to make a tough decision on the mid 1sts tier) 4. 9-10 (Because I love Garrett & AJ) 5. 11 or 12 (I don't love being right on the turn to begin with and while double tapping Nacua and Marvin is nice, I'm worried for future rounds value that falls, seems like you're at a tier break at 3/4 and 5/6 a lot of the time) That's from best to worst*
So we do a lottery (similar to NBA) for our draft order based on where we finished last year. I’m now on the clock to choose my spot with the 1,2,3, and 12 spots already gone. Is it a no brainer to just take the 4 spot? PPR league, full redraft, standard flex, start 9 (including K and DST), 16 rounds. 🤔
Doesn't it make more sense to speak as a default relative to half PPR? I don't get why y'all always say this is assuming PPR, half allows for easier relative comparisons to standard or full.
What do you think about J Taylor? I am at 1.09 and am thinking about picking him first, seems like such a safe pick with also a high ceiling. Wilson, AJ and Gibbs all have some sort of risk, can’t see a lot for JT
JT has more risk than those guys, he's career touches sneakily piling up, dealt with injuries, offense I believe in but ARich may limit his goal line work and he doesn't have a high receiving ceiling. If were in your spot I would roll with Garrett Wilson or AJ, Gibbs if u wanted a RB that bad
I have 6th pick in PPR redraft. (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex) do you recommend going elite RB in round 1 with Breece / Bijan or elite WR with Amon Ra / Jefferson? 15 round home league, 12 team. If I go WR in round 1, I’m looking to target Henry or Kyren in the 2nd.
In full PPR assuming Lamb and Hill are not kept I would 100% go with them over Bijan, however, Bijan is worthy of that pick if CMC, Lamb, Hill, ARSB and maybe Jettas are kept/off the board
In dynasty, would you send Addison and Polk for Waddle? Or how about for London? Have too many players rostered and might be able to pull off the Waddle deal.
"I love Puka...I just think that we've seen the best season of his career so far" Can you clarify this? You believe the best season of Puka's career, in his rookie season, has already occurred?
Yes sorry I misspoke, I meant this past season in 2023 will be the best of his career - ik it's outlandish to say but Matt Harmon has documented that he's very much lifted by the scheme and QB play (even though he's a great WR) my point is he's not elite
It depends what the rest of the roster requirements looks like. I view a player's points above replacement as how they compare to a late round pick or a waiver wire player. 6 person 2 QB you are probably comparing QBs to a typical QB 15 season so it really depends if you are comparing WRs to the WR 24 or the WR 45 based off how many WRs and flexes you are starting, same applies to RBs.
You guys are the most underrated source of fantasy rankings / info out there. Your positions are well thought out and love the risk factor framework. Keep doing great work!!
Much appreciated!
@@FantasyStockExchange also question for you guys: am I crazy to think that Puka's half-ppr ppg could actually increase YY in 2024? He averaged 14.6 0.5 ppr ppg last year and 14.3 ppg in games after Kupp returned. Typically WRs increase their production by a lot in year 2, and I could also see him winning some incremental share from Kupp this year.
Honestly I’m more in the other direction, I think how he performed last year would be a great season if he were able to repeat it
I'm on team Amon at 1.04. That being said, I am on the fence with the Breece vs. Bijan.
Good shit, hope you’re doing rounds 2 n 3 next at some point! 👍🏻
We are indeed!
@@FantasyStockExchange let's go! Also a redraft mock would be awesome too
CeeDee is overvalued at 1 I feel, I took him last year with the last 1st round pick and won the lottery but I'd go with Tyreek or CMC with their track record, I just dont trust Dak
considering he’s the best QB those 3 players have it’s weird not to trust Dak
The bull case scenarios, for the Jets offense are intact, but they are far riskier than the bull case scenarios for the Falcons offense. Just based on division alone the Jets have a far more difficult schedule. Then the more important factor is Rogers. Rogers hasn’t thrown for more than 300 yards in a game since 2021. He also plays at one of the slowest paces of any starting quarterback in the league, regardless of the offense that he is in. This is how he works. His thing is efficiency and it always has been. But that efficiency was not there in Green Bay at the end and he had elite assets in Davante Adams and Aaron Jones. I love breece, but robinson’s floor in the new scheme is higher than hall’s floor. And their ceilings are the same. There is real concern that Aaron Rodgers just doesn’t have it anymore and that is better than what the Jets had last year it’s still isn’t indicative of incredibly high ceilings for both hall and Wilson. Nathaniel Hackett is also wildly overvalued. Give me Robinson and the Atlanta offense with either quarterback over the Jets.
I love how much you both disagree and then make very valid points for each. Definitely changed my mind on the argument for Jefferson
Won my league last year with the rankings from these guys!
Let’s goo!
Bush, you definitely moved up in your home league after being tired of picking from the 1.06 in underdog. Great video boys
HAHA got enough Jettas and ARSB already
St brown is too safe and too consistent in a better situation than Jefferson
Definitely, can't have my first round pick always being good right? haha
I think JJ gets a QB upgrade and with Hock injured and Addison in trouble the volume could be too much to pass on JJ this year
FWIW this was recorded pre-Addison nonsense
I’ve never been so sad that I won a league as I am this year lol! Picking at the 1.12 is just a gigantic cliff from the mid 1st.
Easy Amon-Ra. Cooper Kupp like ceiling with the highest floor in round 1.
Have the 12th pick in a 12 team half PPR league. Do you think it’s better from a team building perspective to take Puka and Harrison back to back if Gibbs is still on the board?
If you are trading out of the 1.01 in a redraft league down to 1.04-1.06, what return should you expect to get?
I mean what’s he willing to offer?
@@FantasyStockExchangethey haven’t offered yet, curious as what you could expect to get from moving off the 1.01 in a redraft league as I’ve never considered it before. You said you moved from top 3 to 6, what did you get for that? There are so many sites to figure out dynasty trades, but redraft I have no idea how to value a trade.
This is almost to a T how I feel about this first round. I would put Gibbs at 1.09 but that's it
Yeh no argument with Gibbs tbh
Amon, Bijan and Hall > Jefferson, not paying a top 5 price tag for a wr tied with a rookie qb even though he will still have a great season
I agree - Bush
Great content!
Thanks boss!
Due diligence
What I like about y’all is different takes. I don’t think you both should be agreeing because obviously one is for ceiling and one is for floor. There are definitely people who want to build their teams based on ceiling or floor so different takes helps with that.
Glad you enjoyed! That’s something we’ve definitely tried to display better this year, adds more substance when there’s organic contrast 💪
@@FantasyStockExchange I’ve always found myself to draft steady players over high ceiling so to not see you two having the order the same was great especially with the explanation to why. Be great when y’all do a full draft explaining why you made the picks you did because if u going safe with certain positions does that mean getting a stud qb 2nd or 3rd round?
Fantastic content once again boys; is this more relevant for classic redraft or underdog bestball tournaments?
For classic redraft PPR leagues (like we play in) as well as Underdog bestball I feel like it's specifically advice suited for those two formats
What up fellas!
Love the content fellas (no glaze)
How would y’all rank all of the picks this year from worst to best? Where should I be trying to pick from?
1. Top 3
2. 6-8 (to catch the end of the mid 1sts tier)
3. 4-5 (despite having to make a tough decision on the mid 1sts tier)
4. 9-10 (Because I love Garrett & AJ)
5. 11 or 12 (I don't love being right on the turn to begin with and while double tapping Nacua and Marvin is nice, I'm worried for future rounds value that falls, seems like you're at a tier break at 3/4 and 5/6 a lot of the time)
That's from best to worst*
So we do a lottery (similar to NBA) for our draft order based on where we finished last year. I’m now on the clock to choose my spot with the 1,2,3, and 12 spots already gone. Is it a no brainer to just take the 4 spot? PPR league, full redraft, standard flex, start 9 (including K and DST), 16 rounds. 🤔
Great video! I’m excited for round 2. Rd 2 is a fkin shit show this year!
Yessir!
I think Marvin is going to explode, agree with Bush. Dont care if he’s a rookie I’d love a Gibbs-Harrison start from the 1.12
Doesn't it make more sense to speak as a default relative to half PPR? I don't get why y'all always say this is assuming PPR, half allows for easier relative comparisons to standard or full.
It does, but 90% of the leagues we play in are PPR and we're trying to win just the same as y'all
What do you think about J Taylor? I am at 1.09 and am thinking about picking him first, seems like such a safe pick with also a high ceiling. Wilson, AJ and Gibbs all have some sort of risk, can’t see a lot for JT
JT has more risk than those guys, he's career touches sneakily piling up, dealt with injuries, offense I believe in but ARich may limit his goal line work and he doesn't have a high receiving ceiling. If were in your spot I would roll with Garrett Wilson or AJ, Gibbs if u wanted a RB that bad
@@FantasyStockExchange thanks ❤
I have 6th pick in PPR redraft. (1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex) do you recommend going elite RB in round 1 with Breece / Bijan or elite WR with Amon Ra / Jefferson? 15 round home league, 12 team. If I go WR in round 1, I’m looking to target Henry or Kyren in the 2nd.
PPR Redraft would you take Pickens or Flowers as your WR3?
I'd prefer Flowers slightly but I like both guys
How high would you take bijan? I have the 1.02 and keep g will late so I have a solid wr. Ppr
In full PPR assuming Lamb and Hill are not kept I would 100% go with them over Bijan, however, Bijan is worthy of that pick if CMC, Lamb, Hill, ARSB and maybe Jettas are kept/off the board
In a standard league are you still targeting WRs ahead of CMC and do any guys like saquon or JT jump into the top 12?
Yeh those RBs would move ahead of those Puka/Garrett types and my top 5 would look like this 1. CMC 2. Lamb 3. Hill 4. Bijan 5. Breece
In dynasty, would you send Addison and Polk for Waddle? Or how about for London? Have too many players rostered and might be able to pull off the Waddle deal.
Duh
Either or is fine with me! But I prefer London
If this was a half ppr tier list would you bump the rbs up a bit or leave them the same?
They'd slide a little bit potentially but round 1 isn't really where most of the changes would happen, maybe you'd see Saquon sneak into the back of 1
"I love Puka...I just think that we've seen the best season of his career so far"
Can you clarify this? You believe the best season of Puka's career, in his rookie season, has already occurred?
They are saying the best season of his career will be that rookie season of his last year
Yes sorry I misspoke, I meant this past season in 2023 will be the best of his career - ik it's outlandish to say but Matt Harmon has documented that he's very much lifted by the scheme and QB play (even though he's a great WR) my point is he's not elite
@@FantasyStockExchange Thats fair. What would your take be though on him also being a positive TD regression candidate? Thanks for the reply!
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I have a 6 man league must start 2 QBs (not SuperFlex) PPR - it is with my family - any thoughts on this changing the market?
It depends what the rest of the roster requirements looks like. I view a player's points above replacement as how they compare to a late round pick or a waiver wire player. 6 person 2 QB you are probably comparing QBs to a typical QB 15 season so it really depends if you are comparing WRs to the WR 24 or the WR 45 based off how many WRs and flexes you are starting, same applies to RBs.