many gonna be mad but this video is a fact because 2NE1 always the standard especially in rap game, stage presence, vocals, discographies and status. \
Loved the video, will you do a boy group version with 2PM, SHINee, DBSK, Big Bang and last one could be either Super Junior, UKISS or Teen Top one day?
BECAUSE HALF THE GROUP CAN'T SING FOR SHIT. Dara makes half of that group look like rookies and she's 2NE1's weakest vocalist. Half of the members are filler members and even the members that can sing can't touch Park Bom's crown.
@@thekpopcrow Only two people in snsd that can’t sing are hyoyeon and yoona and thats okay because hyoyeon is the greatest female dancer in 2nd gen and yoona is also an amazing dancer
@@thekpopcrow ur logic is that park bom defeats the whole of snsd in vocals which is so dumb and u have literally put 4minute and f(x) before snsd like what
For the vocal clip of snsd, it felt kinda unfair to put a clip of Sunny's voice breaking when she was literally crying. I'm not gonna argue they had the strongest vocals, it just kinda felt like a low blow
SNSD is literally the one nd only Nation's Girl Group. That is more than enough of your "opinion" They have outsold 2ne1 million times. Won awards from international stage and the blueprint of girlgroups nowadays. They rule kpop. now it's their 15th year Anniversary nd I don't 2ne1 but SNSD is having their comeback.
Twice outsold SNSD by millions and millions and its not even close, not to mention their international and touring success which has far, far surpassed SNSD. If you want to talk numbers than Twice is the only one that can be rightfully be named Nations GG lol. And for the record, 2NE1 was the biggest girl group back then on the international stage not SNSD, and far more girl groups nowadays follow 2NE1's blueprint.
@@slayallday92 Just a little reminder that SNSD still holds these titles: “Goddesses of K-pop!” - MBC (2019) “Nation’s Girl Group!” - MBC (2019) “Korea’s leading girl group” - JTBC (2020) “Eternal Nation’s Girl Group” - Mnet (2020) “Nation’s Girl Group” - MBC (2020) “South Korea Group Representative SNSD” - MBC (2020)
@@girlsgenerationlittlemixbl7781 Lmao as if Korean media doesn't also call Twice the nation's girl group or any of those titles as well. You try to brag about sales and numbers but honey Twice has already surpassed them in every single metric long time ago by a factor of 1000x.
@@slayallday92 of course twice outsold snsd bro kpop became increasingly popular after SNSD’s prime and without SNSD girl groups would rarely even be a thing rn
Damn this videos is literally to showing ur pride about 2ne1(the disband one), LOL! SNSD still nunber one even " u don't like their dance ". SNSD still shining 'till now and they're not just can singing but they're don't needed the aytotune cause they have 2 main vocals and 3 lead vocals and ofc they're vocal queen of kpop, many kpop idols like jisoo bp, nayeon momo tw, v bts, hyolyn, etc. and many groups like : itzy, weekly, iz*one, kep1er, ive, aespa, etc. choosing SNSD to be their standard.
You can tell Aespa were taking notes from SNSD because all of them look like robots on stage (except HYO). At least my favs have stage presence and the members have solo careers. Can you say the same for SNSD.
The thing is all the groups you mentioned have members that literally idolize 2NE1/CL too plus many others regardless of concept. Even members of Shinee said they were inspired by them, Seohyun said that she learned things by watching 2NE1, and all of Blackpink said they wanted to emulate them. The girl group standard that most follow nowadays was solidified by 2NE1, and the cutesy image SNSD was only known for faded long, long time ago.
SONYEOSHIDAE are literally the strongest vocal gg in their generation Taeyeon is AA-P or P Seohyun High AA Jessica *peak* High AA Tiffany A Sunny A Yuri W-A Sooyoung High W Yoona and Hyoyeon non vocalist. Yuri can even be lead vocal in this generation or even Sooyoung. the only subvocal material are Yoona and Hyoyeon
@@thekpopcrow wow I'm only a few seconds into the video and I thought this would be an unbiased ranking, but seeing this type of comment looks like it's not
@@y0ung5one you saying you’re a few minutes in in and also saying you thought it would be unbiased is a clearly a lie because less than a minute into the video I admitted my bias towards 2NE1 and that some of the categories were gonna be subjective and therefore based on personal opinions and preferences. And I didn’t lie. SNSD blatantly ripped 2NE1 off not only with that song and album but also with most if not all of thier girl crush based songs.
@@thekpopcrow MILLIONS OF ALBUMS? 🤣🫵🏻2ne1's best-selling album has 225K SALES 🤣🤣🤣 ONLY SNSD'S DEBUT ALBUM WITH 1M SELLER IS BIGGER SELLER THAN ALL 2ne1'S ALBUMS TOGETHER
in what way was goodbye an embarrassing song. CL literally fought to release that song for blackjacks instead of leaving us with nothing like YG wanted. genuinely confused. like how else would you want a group to say a genuine goodbye to their fans?
Goodbye was embarrassing because it wasn't powerful at all and there was no minzy. I expected so much more from 2ne1 especially for thier last song, but we got that weak ass song
@@thekpopcrow you're saying you expected more from 2ne1 and got that weak ass song. i'm saying YG was going to let 2ne1 disband without any song. Minzy left 2ne1 because the group was dead. Minzy left a dead group and CL fought to write a the last song for blackjacks. i really don't understand why youre saying "We got that weak ass song" like YG wanted to give us anything lol
@@amazedfairy goodbye sucks. just cause cl fought for it don't mean its good and she prolly only did so just cause they weren't any better options. its either goodbye or no song at all but thats not enough to justify it being a good song no matter how u look at it.
@@singaporechickenrice2484 wym there was no other options? she wrote the song so i dont what you are saying by "there werent better options". i dont get how goodbye sucks its literally a goodbye song to her fans. explain why it sucks? you dont like a slow song or what? Goodbye is literally the best goodbye song to fans lmao yall sound dumb saying "there werent better options" she literally created the song u think she had 3 songs to choose from or something? yall aint making sense and its embarrassing.
the moment i saw gg on last for vocals i knew this was nothing but crap. As if Seohyun alone won't eat up every single one of those groups. TaengSic won't even need to show up. Absurdity at its peak really.
Im a blackjack first and foremost i love 2ne1 and everything they have done. But even i know snsd and wonder girls have a special place in kpop. Anyways i would rank them like this. Concepts. Fx - sorry as much as i love 2ne1 fx had such a fun concept espically there last 3 albums they where actual magic not only the concept but just everything they did fit so well togther. 2ne1 - okay there concept for the girl crush thing was very very clearly definied from the start and they have done it the best since they made it a mainstream concept. Wonder girls - there retro concept is actually magnificent as well as there band concept. Snsd - they changed concept alot but eventually they came full circle to there original girl next door concept although i think Genie as a concept and song is one of the best kpop songs and concepts done in the whole of kpop. 4minute - they where very hit and miss with there concepts they started girl crush but changed throughout the years but they ended up hitting home run after home run during there later half of there career with there concepts it just took them a bit to long to find there signature sound amd style. Visuals - all because i love all of there visuals for diffrent reasons, 2ne1 and 4minute had more edgy looks espically during concepts like i love you and i am the best for 2ne1 and 4minute with crazy and hate. Wonder girls and snsd had very typical girl group looks which i loved. Fx had a nice blend of edgy but also classic visuals, the edgy looks being amber where as Krystal and sulli had that classic SM vibe to them. Dance. Snsd - sorry to say but snsd had some of the best choreography amongst 2nd gen girl groups and very early on as well if you actually watch the stage performance for into the new world that shit is considered one of the hardest choreographys in the whole of kpop and i mean have you attempted to try and learn there dance for catch me if you can you will actually have a new respect for them after that song. 4minute - i agree with you in they where probably the only girl group to get 3rd gen choreography amongst all there pairs in this video and they pulled it of really well. Especially hate i love that dance its so crazy that it flopped that hard. Fx - im only ranking them higher then 2ne1 because 4 walls was such a great choice of song and choreography that it does everything better then 2ne1s choreography ever did. 2ne1 - not as dynamic in there dance moves more focused on there stage presence and swag which really sets them apart from most other girl groups. Wonder girls - they never really relied heavily on dance heavy songs although love you like money is a fun dance they succeed the most in hook dances which was a lot of fun. Rap. 2ne1 - 4minute. 2ne1 had CL and minzy. CL is the best kpop idol rapper ive ever heard, i put her above even Gdragon. And minzy was a good lead rapper who could hold her own on a track as well. 4minute had Hyuna who was a rap beast and jiyoom
Nice to see f(x) get some love. I can clear up at least one little mystery for you, the origin of SONE (pronounced So-un-nay). It's from the song "Genie" and it means _wish._ The song opens with the phrase _tell me your wish_ "so unnay mardebwa" Good song, three different MV's, the standard, the Japanese, and the Samsung 3D sponsored (the lattermost being my favorite)
Girl, it's one thing to have an opinion and another thing to be hating on a group. Ranking Girls' Generation lower than 2ne1 on their dancing abilities is a little cringey, especially when Hyoyeon is known in the industry for being the best 2nd gen female dancer. Even Minzy said she looks up to Hyoyeon in terms of skill. But, ranking them lowest in vocal ability is just weird. Girls' Generation has objectively the best 2nd gen female vocal line. The group literally has FIVE fantastic singers. I won't say Taeyeon is the best singer ever. At this point in her career, she has really become stunningly impressive, but back in the early-mid 2010s, Hyolyn (Sistar), Luna (Fx), Eunji (Apink), and Solji (EXID) were all arguably better vocalists than Taeyeon. Despite that, as a whole, SNSD was always the strongest group in this category. There are things I agree with though. CL is definitely the strongest and fiercest female rapper (periodt), and Minzy is an awesome performer. Hyuna is the best performer though, even better than Minzy. I don't love SNSD's discography either, they have a few highly enjoyable songs and a lot of average to below-average trendy songs. But, other groups are not expempt from this trend thing. 2ne1 has great music, but their most popular song is I Am The Best, which is musically just....*sighs*....it should have been Come Back Home. That song deserves it all. Wonder Girls also have great music, but my personal favorite for discography is F(x). And, yes, F(x) and 2NE1 have super cool names, but let's be honest, Girls' Generation is an empowering fucking name, I can't take you seriously if you say it's bad. Into The New World was the most iconic debut song out of all of these and it's evident. I mean, that song is used for political movements and protests, it goes beyond Kpop and fan wars. Also, 4MINUTE Hate is one of my all-time favorite songs. It makes me so mad that it didn't do that well.
1) Lol Hyoyeon the best to who? Sones? Minzy can outdance any female idol in 2nd gen 2) SNSD vocals are boring and they have no performances as good as 2NE1 CBH & If I were you on Sketchbook 4) IATB + Fire were chanted religiously during the Filipino presidential election, their songs go beyond just Korea.
@@slayallday92 A quick search will let you know that Minzy is not even in the run for top 10 best female k-pop dancers as ranked by industry professionals. Not shaming her, she's great, but you've lost your objectivity a 100%. Also, you thinking SNSD's vocals are boring is an opinion. You're entitled to that. SNSD being a vocally stronger group than 2ne1 is a fact, just the way 2ne1 being far stronger in rap than GG is a fact. I'm not here to do that whole sone vs blackjack thing. Pls let's leave than in the past. I mean, 2ne1 has disbanded. That era is over. If you've been a K-pop fan long enough, I'm expecting we've matured enough to recognise and stan talent over everything else.
@@slayallday92 hyoyeon is better, snsd vocals Outsold 2ne1. Hyoyeon's ratings leave her in the #1er place of best kpop dancer, even Minzy named her as his role model.
@@max-es7iu 2NE1 is literally the best selling kpop group ever and in the top 5 most successful girl groups ever, selling around 60 million records worldwide. SNSD has only sold half the amount of records worldwide that 2NE1 has, selling around 30 million worldwide.
@@tjsquibbofficial You are only counting digital sales and that is not a big deal, besides, it is not confirmed by Guinness Records, in fact 2ne1 does not have any Guinness records, unlike SNSD which has several
2NE1's Goodbye was initially written by CL for Minzy's departure from the group but they had to change it as their disbandment song cause we all know YGE did these girls dirrrrrtyyyyyyy. It's really one of the worst disbandments in K-Pop history, especially for the very group that paved the way for girl crush groups. These women worked so hard only to be stabbed in the back by their label. YGE didn't even have the decency to inform them of the disbandment which makes it even more heartbreaking. The girls found out through the media. Like what even------ CL was having thanksgiving dinner when her phone started blowing up. Thinking about it makes me so pissed again...
why can’t people respect other people opinion without being extremely rude and mean? if you like a certain girl group, great. you don’t need to talk shit about other girls groups… 😒
@@thekpopcrow should have put that in the title. Also pathetic at you putting all of the groups name for getting clicks for views. For such a piss poor opinion ass video. Anyway
Kara had name.. Globally accepted in Korea Japan SEA Asia Euro Africa which romanize from its origin Greek means sweet melody.. No need dualism name just like math language f(x)..
Thanks to sweetune, their songs are masterpiece even for Bside.. Originally melodic minimum sampling other speech part or even remaking known song wether change it means (dancing queen) or melodic reverse (itnw)
Although I disagree that SNSD should be in bottom in their vocals. I honestly think that they’re not in the top spot either. Too much unnecessary members and very redundant roles on a 9-member group imo. But I’d put them in top3 the least. My personal rankings are 1. 2NE1 2. SNSD 3. 4Minute 4. F(x) 5. WG If Sistar is here, sistar easily takes the 3rd spot on my all time faves
And you are trying to say that snsd is only popular for their visuals?Snsd were,still is and will forever remain the most legendary girl group.2ne1 made the worst music somehow were still popular thanks to dara who was incrediblely popular in Phillipines otherwise 2ne1 would have been the most flopped group in kpop history due to their bad discography.(fire and I am the best were okay-ish but others were just terrible and horrendous).
its funny bcs actually the name girls' generation and sone has a beautiful meaning tho. ngl they hated it at first but turns out THE name becomes great and greatest. from this i can only see that 2NE1 is overrated sorry not sorry.
I also don't listen to Goodbye ( it makes me sad and mad at the same time). I've watched the vid once when it was released and then a few times in reaction videos.
Sone comes from SNSD doesn't it? I feel better hearing someone else say some of this, Some groups are just catchy, but not actually good when you dig into them. But they are still catchy so not insulting! I mean, I get Gee and I Gotta Boy stuck in my head regularly lol
I’m sorry this is WAY too biased- you know dang well SNSD is first in vocals. Ain’t no way you’re sayin CL, Dara, Minzy and Bom are better singers than legends like Taeyeon, Jessica, Seohyun and Tiffany. Other snsd members could probably be main vocal in other groups
I discovered KPOP in Feb 2023 with TREN-D. Then Blackpink and then (drumroll) I found 2NE1. I am a Blackjack and a Daraling. Trouble with comparing to 2NE1 is they are not one-trick-ponies. Three of the 4 rap (see clap your hands), all 4 have great vocals (see their acoustics like lonely), their choreography seems so-so until you watch a live performance and watch them move separately then coming back together with the music. This is planned and practiced. The 4 members fill the stage and hold your eyes. Stage Presence thy name is 2NE1. Oh yes, "Goodbye" was not a disbanding song. It was a song of mourning for Minzy being driven out of the group by YG.
Lol.Most of the 2ne1 music is completely garbage.Too much autotune,bad vocals,trashy edm etc.Snsd is the best 2nd gen girl group.They have the best discography and are better than 2ne1 in every aspect.Cry about it.😂
So delusional, Blinded by fanaticism, 2ne1 in the only thing that stands out is in rap and stage presence, in the others they are completely devoured by all.
I love how you rank dance the design was so stupid basing it on their choreos😂. Why didn't you just put ranking dance steps and not dance so that it is more clearly!
Something i notices is that all SM Girlgroups have very lacking Stage Presence but for some Reason the only on getting Hate for it is Aespa i really wonder why
You just hate snsd for no reason.If I have to rank these(in any aspect)than it would be:1.Snsd(it is the best group ever and you are just jealous)2.fx(good, experiment discography/wonder girls(it was hard for me to decide which one is better so I put them on the same level as both of them have amazing discography)3.4minute-they had some good songs but most of the discography was unlistenable filled with bad vocals and bad edm.4.2ne1-one of the worst group of 2nd gen.Its good that they disbanded so we dont have to listen to their garbage music anymore.And snsd is still active and good unlike 2ne1😂who is totally forgotten.
also beeing a blackjack which i assume you are from this very biased video saying the song goodbye is an embarassment just shows how much you respect artists and their work.
Snsd has taeyeon, seohyun, tiffany, sunny (and used to have jessica) as vocal line While yuri sooyoung are lead vocalist material and you put them last on vocal department AH DONT MAKE ME LAUGH
Fio em que mundo que o 2ne1 tem uma vocal line melhot que a do snsd, que tem a taeyeon, sunny, seohyun tiffany e de quebra ainda tinha a Jéssica Nemhum grupo desse vídeo tem uma vocal line melhorar que a do snsd, nem mesmo o f(x) que tem a luna. Que video biased lixoso
"The rest are subvocalist material" Literalmente só a yoona e a hyoyeon, que são as únicas do grupo sem suporte e ainda fazem parte da dance line Que vídeo burro
Im a blackjack first and foremost i love 2ne1 and everything they have done. But even i know snsd and wonder girls have a special place in kpop. Anyways i would rank them like this. Concepts. Fx - sorry as much as i love 2ne1 fx had such a fun concept espically there last 3 albums they where actual magic not only the concept but just everything they did fit so well togther. 2ne1 - okay there concept for the girl crush thing was very very clearly definied from the start and they have done it the best since they made it a mainstream concept. Wonder girls - there retro concept is actually magnificent as well as there band concept. Snsd - they changed concept alot but eventually they came full circle to there original girl next door concept although i think Genie as a concept and song is one of the best kpop songs and concepts done in the whole of kpop. 4minute - they where very hit and miss with there concepts they started girl crush but changed throughout the years but they ended up hitting home run after home run during there later half of there career with there concepts it just took them a bit to long to find there signature sound amd style. Visuals - all because i love all of there visuals for diffrent reasons, 2ne1 and 4minute had more edgy looks espically during concepts like i love you and i am the best for 2ne1 and 4minute with crazy and hate. Wonder girls and snsd had very typical girl group looks which i loved. Fx had a nice blend of edgy but also classic visuals, the edgy looks being amber where as Krystal and sulli had that classic SM vibe to them. Dance. Snsd - sorry to say but snsd had some of the best choreography amongst 2nd gen girl groups and very early on as well if you actually watch the stage performance for into the new world that shit is considered one of the hardest choreographys in the whole of kpop and i mean have you attempted to try and learn there dance for catch me if you can you will actually have a new respect for them after that song. 4minute - i agree with you in they where probably the only girl group to get 3rd gen choreography amongst all there pairs in this video and they pulled it of really well. Especially hate i love that dance its so crazy that it flopped that hard. Fx - im only ranking them higher then 2ne1 because 4 walls was such a great choice of song and choreography that it does everything better then 2ne1s choreography ever did. 2ne1 - not as dynamic in there dance moves more focused on there stage presence and swag which really sets them apart from most other girl groups. Wonder girls - they never really relied heavily on dance heavy songs although love you like money is a fun dance they succeed the most in hook dances which was a lot of fun. Rap. 2ne1 - 4minute. 2ne1 had CL and minzy. CL is the best kpop idol rapper ive ever heard, i put her above even Gdragon. And minzy was a good lead rapper who could hold her own on a track as well. 4minute had Hyuna who was a rap beast and jiyon who i actually like rapping more then hyuna in some of 4minutes songs. Wonder girls - Yubin is actually a really great rapper for an idol rapper as well as shes better then jiyoon and minzy at rapping but shes not as good as CL and Hyuna. Her verse on tell me and so hot are iconic. Fx - amber will always be the better sm rapper from second gen she actually sounds like she listens to hip hop and rap music at least. Snsd - never focused on rap in there music much but when they did hyoeyon did a decent enough job for the song, nothing amazing to write home about though. Stage presence 2ne1 - okay ill give this one cut a clear to 2ne1. This one 2ne1 always carried stage presence like no one else. 4minute - yeah your right hyuna and the girls always had great stage presence. Fx - amber and luna definitely loved hyping the crowd and i think they did a decent enough job at interacting with the crowd. Wonder girls - i say this purely because during the band concept they had to interact with the crowds abit more which i loved. Snsd - they are amazing on stage but your right theey never varied much from the choreography that was given to them. Discographies. Wonder girls - ive actually found myself loving more songs from wonder girls then not loving songs from them, except for the dj is mine that song i completely cant stand but beside that everything else they have released ive really enjoyed even deep cuts from albums. Sweet dreams and sweet and easy are top tier kpop songs. Bad boy of there first single album is such a good popping song i live for it and have played it out so much. Fx - again the same reason as above but with maybe 1 or 2 songs i dont really enjoy per album or mini album but i enjoy majority of there music. Snsd - they had very different variety in there music and there one of the only girl groups from this list with a japanese discography that is better then there korean one. Flower power and galaxy supernova are there best title songs. 2ne1 - okay they have great songs but alot of it starts sounding the same especially on that first album but when 2ne1 hits they hit hard. But i will say there last album is one of the best kpop albums from that year and there 2nd mini album with all of the songs becoming singles was iconic. 4minute - they suffer the same fate as 2ne1 in that alot of there early songs start sounding the same but they had very good songs but nothing outstanding till there last 2 mini albums although i did love volume up that song is a great pop song in general. 4minute actually have very good japanese only tracks as well love tension is a great song from them. Vocals Snsd - sorry but they have taeyeon as there main vocalist. I love the other girls but she is the main vocalist of main vocalist for a reason, theres a reason she has some of the most successful solo albums amongst her 2nd gen pairs. Fx - Luna is a vocal beast she hard carried fx in the vocal department and her progression as a vocalist is nothing to scoff at, shes technically a better singer then taeyeon but her vocals are not as distinctive as her predecessors. Wonder girls - tbh wonder girls have a very very solid vocal line in any lineup yeeun could run circles around most girl group members that have debut these days and sunye definitely helped create the sound of future JYP female vocalist for years after she debut. 2ne1 - sorry to say it but park bom and her regression really held back alot of what 2ne1 could do vocally back and it meat that minzy hard carried alot of 2ne1s vocals in the latter half of there careers. As great of a vocalist CL was her and dara could never fill that spot that park bom left when she regressed so it left minzy to do all the vocal carrying on her own in that last album. Also to be fair 2ne1s vocals never called for much vocal moments where the girls really had to belt above there vocal capacity but they could do high soaring notes with no problems. 4minute - i mean tbh the girls can sing but just like 2ne1 there vocals where never really called on in there music unlike fx and snsd where the vocal peaks where alot more higher and significant just like 2ne1 there vocals where never a main focus for the group which was never a bad thing but it also meant that 4minute never had to reach well above there vocal range and belting range alot in there songs. Although there where moments in songs just like 2ne1 where the girls could if they really wanted to. Debut song. Fx - your right lachata was a very good debut song and such a great showing of there talent and the video suited there concept very well and its just a great song in general and the dance is so much fun. Snsd - it pains me to say because i dont really like this song but its impact on kpop in general and the way it helped shape kpop is something i just cant get over, they litterally helped birth the next gen of kpop girl groups and what is to be expected also this song has had lasting impact across the whole of korea not just the kpop industry. 2ne1 - fire was definitely that birth of girl crush in a way we had never seen before or after, its a slick song with a fun video as well both versions but it also hasn't aged as well as lachata which was released in the same year. 4minute - hot issue just like fire is a fun song and it has alot of the same quirks as fire but its a bit more teen crush then girl crush. Wonder girls - irony is a solid debut song but its definitely of its time and has a lot of resemblance to songs that where popular on the top 40 in America at that time which is nothing bad but it definitely feels dated, tbh it kind of felt dated when it was released. I do like the song although tell me definitely felt like a debut song tbh only because it became the song associated with that lineup of wonder girls. Disbandment song. Wonder girls - why so lonely was a banger then and its still a banger now one of the best songs they ever released tbh. Fx - 4 walls. I mean its personally my favourite title track from them. 4minute - i actually really liked hate and didnt understand why it got hate when it came out tbh. Snsd - all night i actually love this song although it kind of reminds me of fx song called the same name which i feel they lowkey did that 80s synth sound a bit better. 2ne1 - goodbye i mean really, hey least we got a disbandment song unlike most YG artist that disbanded under them. But i feel liek this wasent the end for 2ne1 i feel like we where actually meant to get a song and a video from 2ne1 before there contracts where up.
many gonna be mad but this video is a fact because 2NE1 always the standard especially in rap game, stage presence, vocals, discographies and status.
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Loved the video, will you do a boy group version with 2PM, SHINee, DBSK, Big Bang and last one could be either Super Junior, UKISS or Teen Top one day?
Pffft
you should run a stand up comedy
The moment I saw SNSD placed last vocally, I know that the whole thing is shit. Periodt don’t tag me.
Cuz they cant sing...... its just the facts sis
@@thekpopcrow2ne1 has bom as a main vocalist, snsd has taeyeon
Cry about it
@@aahbodybang Um sis the creator was ranking these groups as a GROUP. Most of snsd's members are just filler now stop lying to urself for once
The hate on gg is crazy
its giving ugly on the inside
This is really funny that you put 2ne1 over snsd in vocals cuz girl u know damn well snsd is first
BECAUSE HALF THE GROUP CAN'T SING FOR SHIT. Dara makes half of that group look like rookies and she's 2NE1's weakest vocalist. Half of the members are filler members and even the members that can sing can't touch Park Bom's crown.
@@thekpopcrow so you think park bom is a better vocalist than the legends Taeyeon,seohyun,jessica,tiffany and sunny??
@@thekpopcrow Only two people in snsd that can’t sing are hyoyeon and yoona and thats okay because hyoyeon is the greatest female dancer in 2nd gen and yoona is also an amazing dancer
@@thekpopcrow ur logic is that park bom defeats the whole of snsd in vocals which is so dumb and u have literally put 4minute and f(x) before snsd like what
@@ihsan2837 ok….. It’s the truth. 4M and fx members can all sing vs SNSD who has 2 maybe 3 alright vocalists
For the vocal clip of snsd, it felt kinda unfair to put a clip of Sunny's voice breaking when she was literally crying. I'm not gonna argue they had the strongest vocals, it just kinda felt like a low blow
This video is just a 2ne1 promo.All members of snsd can ding circles around Sohee in their sleep.
The creator of the video is just a fan of 2ne1, and he just created his own happiness 😊
Yeah fr. But yet Sunny still sounded good! But that was a disadvantage for them. K-pop crow is just a biased blackjack who is jealous of SNSD
SNSD is crealyly on top
girls generation the best girl group
Strongly agreed. Sones don’t listen to K-pop crow they’re just jealous of SNSD’s success.
SNSD: 1st
EVERYONE ELSE: 2nd
SNSD is literally the one nd only Nation's Girl Group. That is more than enough of your "opinion" They have outsold 2ne1 million times. Won awards from international stage and the blueprint of girlgroups nowadays. They rule kpop. now it's their 15th year Anniversary nd I don't 2ne1 but SNSD is having their comeback.
Twice outsold SNSD by millions and millions and its not even close, not to mention their international and touring success which has far, far surpassed SNSD. If you want to talk numbers than Twice is the only one that can be rightfully be named Nations GG lol. And for the record, 2NE1 was the biggest girl group back then on the international stage not SNSD, and far more girl groups nowadays follow 2NE1's blueprint.
@@slayallday92 Just a little reminder that SNSD still holds these titles:
“Goddesses of K-pop!” - MBC (2019)
“Nation’s Girl Group!” - MBC (2019)
“Korea’s leading girl group” - JTBC (2020)
“Eternal Nation’s Girl Group” - Mnet (2020)
“Nation’s Girl Group” - MBC (2020)
“South Korea Group Representative SNSD” - MBC (2020)
@@slayallday92 You re big JOKE. hahahah okay. I won't argue anymore.
@@girlsgenerationlittlemixbl7781 Lmao as if Korean media doesn't also call Twice the nation's girl group or any of those titles as well. You try to brag about sales and numbers but honey Twice has already surpassed them in every single metric long time ago by a factor of 1000x.
@@slayallday92 of course twice outsold snsd bro kpop became increasingly popular after SNSD’s prime and without SNSD girl groups would rarely even be a thing rn
I Don't know why ..... I laugh so hard with you ranking . 🤣
Because this ranking is a joke
Damn this videos is literally to showing ur pride about 2ne1(the disband one), LOL! SNSD still nunber one even " u don't like their dance ". SNSD still shining 'till now and they're not just can singing but they're don't needed the aytotune cause they have 2 main vocals and 3 lead vocals and ofc they're vocal queen of kpop, many kpop idols like jisoo bp, nayeon momo tw, v bts, hyolyn, etc. and many groups like : itzy, weekly, iz*one, kep1er, ive, aespa, etc. choosing SNSD to be their standard.
You can tell Aespa were taking notes from SNSD because all of them look like robots on stage (except HYO). At least my favs have stage presence and the members have solo careers. Can you say the same for SNSD.
The thing is all the groups you mentioned have members that literally idolize 2NE1/CL too plus many others regardless of concept. Even members of Shinee said they were inspired by them, Seohyun said that she learned things by watching 2NE1, and all of Blackpink said they wanted to emulate them. The girl group standard that most follow nowadays was solidified by 2NE1, and the cutesy image SNSD was only known for faded long, long time ago.
@@thekpopcrow Thats funny
@@slayallday92 keep dreaming babe
@@xuchen2104 It's right in front of you darling
all night isnt their disbandement song, they are gonna release a brand new album soon so hehehe haters xx
Watch them sell 5 albums because nobody cares🤣
@@thekpopcrow go get a life
@@thekpopcrow NOT YOU CRYING BECAUSE SHE TOLD U THEY HAVENT DISBANDED 😭😭😭 chin up
@@thekpopcrow are you mad bc 2ne1 disbanded and snsd didn’t? 😂😂😂 your video has 338 views humble yourself
@@ihsan2837 and u crying because i pointed out how nobody gives two shits about those has-beens. If they sell more than 10 albums I'll be shocked😂😂
After these years... Balckjack still dreaming
SONYEOSHIDAE are literally the strongest vocal gg in their generation
Taeyeon is AA-P or P
Seohyun High AA
Jessica *peak* High AA
Tiffany A
Sunny A
Yuri W-A
Sooyoung High W
Yoona and Hyoyeon non vocalist.
Yuri can even be lead vocal in this generation or even Sooyoung. the only subvocal material are Yoona and Hyoyeon
Of course a blackjack would have these opinions of SNSD, sorry to break it to you but SNSD will always be that it group
Not rlly, they could never pull off the stuff 2NE1 has done ever! Literally
It’s not for lack of trying either. During The Boys era they were tryna be the Walmart 2NE1
@@thekpopcrow wow I'm only a few seconds into the video and I thought this would be an unbiased ranking, but seeing this type of comment looks like it's not
@@y0ung5one you saying you’re a few minutes in in and also saying you thought it would be unbiased is a clearly a lie because less than a minute into the video I admitted my bias towards 2NE1 and that some of the categories were gonna be subjective and therefore based on personal opinions and preferences. And I didn’t lie. SNSD blatantly ripped 2NE1 off not only with that song and album but also with most if not all of thier girl crush based songs.
@@thekpopcrow I said a few SECONDS into the video
We all love 2NE1 here but you could have atleast judged the other gg for what they were and not for them not being 2NE1.
2NE1 are my standard that i compare every group to
@@thekpopcrow😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@thekpopcrow explains a lot lmao
Since "opinion videos" have started to spread along youtube, this is refreshing as a blackjack that has experience 2ne1 erasures from here and there.
2NE1 the queens always and forever. Long may they reign
@@thekpopcrowthe queens of flop
@@max-es7iu thier first album sold millions… and thier second one. And thier 2 EPs. And they have the most viewed second gen mv…..
@@thekpopcrow MILLIONS OF ALBUMS? 🤣🫵🏻2ne1's best-selling album has 225K SALES 🤣🤣🤣 ONLY SNSD'S DEBUT ALBUM WITH 1M SELLER IS BIGGER SELLER THAN ALL 2ne1'S ALBUMS TOGETHER
@@max-es7iugirl honestly he is just really dumb and biased it’s funny.
in what way was goodbye an embarrassing song. CL literally fought to release that song for blackjacks instead of leaving us with nothing like YG wanted. genuinely confused. like how else would you want a group to say a genuine goodbye to their fans?
Goodbye was embarrassing because it wasn't powerful at all and there was no minzy. I expected so much more from 2ne1 especially for thier last song, but we got that weak ass song
Right? like what the fuck is this person on about
@@thekpopcrow you're saying you expected more from 2ne1 and got that weak ass song. i'm saying YG was going to let 2ne1 disband without any song. Minzy left 2ne1 because the group was dead. Minzy left a dead group and CL fought to write a the last song for blackjacks. i really don't understand why youre saying "We got that weak ass song" like YG wanted to give us anything lol
@@amazedfairy goodbye sucks. just cause cl fought for it don't mean its good and she prolly only did so just cause they weren't any better options. its either goodbye or no song at all but thats not enough to justify it being a good song no matter how u look at it.
@@singaporechickenrice2484 wym there was no other options? she wrote the song so i dont what you are saying by "there werent better options". i dont get how goodbye sucks its literally a goodbye song to her fans. explain why it sucks? you dont like a slow song or what?
Goodbye is literally the best goodbye song to fans lmao yall sound dumb saying "there werent better options" she literally created the song u think she had 3 songs to choose from or something? yall aint making sense and its embarrassing.
the moment i saw gg on last for vocals i knew this was nothing but crap. As if Seohyun alone won't eat up every single one of those groups. TaengSic won't even need to show up. Absurdity at its peak really.
2ne1 the Queens of K-pop 🔥🔥
Always and forever
Black Jaks are still mad because of girls generation after all theses years 😅
Im a blackjack first and foremost i love 2ne1 and everything they have done. But even i know snsd and wonder girls have a special place in kpop.
Anyways i would rank them like this.
Concepts.
Fx - sorry as much as i love 2ne1 fx had such a fun concept espically there last 3 albums they where actual magic not only the concept but just everything they did fit so well togther.
2ne1 - okay there concept for the girl crush thing was very very clearly definied from the start and they have done it the best since they made it a mainstream concept.
Wonder girls - there retro concept is actually magnificent as well as there band concept.
Snsd - they changed concept alot but eventually they came full circle to there original girl next door concept although i think Genie as a concept and song is one of the best kpop songs and concepts done in the whole of kpop.
4minute - they where very hit and miss with there concepts they started girl crush but changed throughout the years but they ended up hitting home run after home run during there later half of there career with there concepts it just took them a bit to long to find there signature sound amd style.
Visuals - all because i love all of there visuals for diffrent reasons, 2ne1 and 4minute had more edgy looks espically during concepts like i love you and i am the best for 2ne1 and 4minute with crazy and hate. Wonder girls and snsd had very typical girl group looks which i loved. Fx had a nice blend of edgy but also classic visuals, the edgy looks being amber where as Krystal and sulli had that classic SM vibe to them.
Dance.
Snsd - sorry to say but snsd had some of the best choreography amongst 2nd gen girl groups and very early on as well if you actually watch the stage performance for into the new world that shit is considered one of the hardest choreographys in the whole of kpop and i mean have you attempted to try and learn there dance for catch me if you can you will actually have a new respect for them after that song.
4minute - i agree with you in they where probably the only girl group to get 3rd gen choreography amongst all there pairs in this video and they pulled it of really well. Especially hate i love that dance its so crazy that it flopped that hard.
Fx - im only ranking them higher then 2ne1 because 4 walls was such a great choice of song and choreography that it does everything better then 2ne1s choreography ever did.
2ne1 - not as dynamic in there dance moves more focused on there stage presence and swag which really sets them apart from most other girl groups.
Wonder girls - they never really relied heavily on dance heavy songs although love you like money is a fun dance they succeed the most in hook dances which was a lot of fun.
Rap.
2ne1 - 4minute.
2ne1 had CL and minzy. CL is the best kpop idol rapper ive ever heard, i put her above even Gdragon. And minzy was a good lead rapper who could hold her own on a track as well.
4minute had Hyuna who was a rap beast and jiyoom
Finally someone that knows 2NE1 and ranked them rightfully.
Nice to see f(x) get some love. I can clear up at least one little mystery for you, the origin of SONE (pronounced So-un-nay). It's from the song "Genie" and it means _wish._ The song opens with the phrase _tell me your wish_ "so unnay mardebwa" Good song, three different MV's, the standard, the Japanese, and the Samsung 3D sponsored (the lattermost being my favorite)
Girl, it's one thing to have an opinion and another thing to be hating on a group. Ranking Girls' Generation lower than 2ne1 on their dancing abilities is a little cringey, especially when Hyoyeon is known in the industry for being the best 2nd gen female dancer. Even Minzy said she looks up to Hyoyeon in terms of skill. But, ranking them lowest in vocal ability is just weird. Girls' Generation has objectively the best 2nd gen female vocal line. The group literally has FIVE fantastic singers. I won't say Taeyeon is the best singer ever. At this point in her career, she has really become stunningly impressive, but back in the early-mid 2010s, Hyolyn (Sistar), Luna (Fx), Eunji (Apink), and Solji (EXID) were all arguably better vocalists than Taeyeon. Despite that, as a whole, SNSD was always the strongest group in this category. There are things I agree with though. CL is definitely the strongest and fiercest female rapper (periodt), and Minzy is an awesome performer. Hyuna is the best performer though, even better than Minzy. I don't love SNSD's discography either, they have a few highly enjoyable songs and a lot of average to below-average trendy songs. But, other groups are not expempt from this trend thing. 2ne1 has great music, but their most popular song is I Am The Best, which is musically just....*sighs*....it should have been Come Back Home. That song deserves it all. Wonder Girls also have great music, but my personal favorite for discography is F(x). And, yes, F(x) and 2NE1 have super cool names, but let's be honest, Girls' Generation is an empowering fucking name, I can't take you seriously if you say it's bad. Into The New World was the most iconic debut song out of all of these and it's evident. I mean, that song is used for political movements and protests, it goes beyond Kpop and fan wars. Also, 4MINUTE Hate is one of my all-time favorite songs. It makes me so mad that it didn't do that well.
1) Lol Hyoyeon the best to who? Sones? Minzy can outdance any female idol in 2nd gen 2) SNSD vocals are boring and they have no performances as good as 2NE1 CBH & If I were you on Sketchbook 4) IATB + Fire were chanted religiously during the Filipino presidential election, their songs go beyond just Korea.
@@slayallday92 A quick search will let you know that Minzy is not even in the run for top 10 best female k-pop dancers as ranked by industry professionals. Not shaming her, she's great, but you've lost your objectivity a 100%. Also, you thinking SNSD's vocals are boring is an opinion. You're entitled to that. SNSD being a vocally stronger group than 2ne1 is a fact, just the way 2ne1 being far stronger in rap than GG is a fact. I'm not here to do that whole sone vs blackjack thing. Pls let's leave than in the past. I mean, 2ne1 has disbanded. That era is over. If you've been a K-pop fan long enough, I'm expecting we've matured enough to recognise and stan talent over everything else.
@@slayallday92 hyoyeon is better, snsd vocals Outsold 2ne1. Hyoyeon's ratings leave her in the #1er place of best kpop dancer, even Minzy named her as his role model.
@@max-es7iu 2NE1 is literally the best selling kpop group ever and in the top 5 most successful girl groups ever, selling around 60 million records worldwide. SNSD has only sold half the amount of records worldwide that 2NE1 has, selling around 30 million worldwide.
@@tjsquibbofficial You are only counting digital sales and that is not a big deal, besides, it is not confirmed by Guinness Records, in fact 2ne1 does not have any Guinness records, unlike SNSD which has several
2NE1's Goodbye was initially written by CL for Minzy's departure from the group but they had to change it as their disbandment song cause we all know YGE did these girls dirrrrrtyyyyyyy. It's really one of the worst disbandments in K-Pop history, especially for the very group that paved the way for girl crush groups. These women worked so hard only to be stabbed in the back by their label. YGE didn't even have the decency to inform them of the disbandment which makes it even more heartbreaking. The girls found out through the media. Like what even------ CL was having thanksgiving dinner when her phone started blowing up. Thinking about it makes me so pissed again...
If i ever see yang hyun suk imma do what we all want to 🗡
2ne1 still the very best kpop girl group for me up until now
nobody else can compare
why can’t people respect other people opinion without being extremely rude and mean? if you like a certain girl group, great. you don’t need to talk shit about other girls groups… 😒
Me having an opinion isn’t asking shit. I’m allowed to have a take
thank you for giving f(x) justice
Liked the comparisons. Don't think I want to look up Wonder Girls, but you convinced me to look up f(x). Already know Girls Generation and 4Minute.
Biased ranking for sure, that should be the title. People should definitely stop making these type of ranking with piss poor opinions
Bro I literally said it was gonna be biased in the intro.
@@thekpopcrow should have put that in the title. Also pathetic at you putting all of the groups name for getting clicks for views. For such a piss poor opinion ass video. Anyway
Kara had name.. Globally accepted in Korea Japan SEA Asia Euro Africa which romanize from its origin Greek means sweet melody..
No need dualism name just like math language f(x)..
Kamilia KARA familia.
Thanks to sweetune, their songs are masterpiece even for Bside.. Originally melodic minimum sampling other speech part or even remaking known song wether change it means (dancing queen) or melodic reverse (itnw)
Sing distribution almost even on members, with rap needed songs are brought usually by double lead rapper along with main rapper
Synchronized dance and pointy move are 2nd gen kpop trademark
Park GyuRi the goddess herself. No debate
wow after all these years cant believe im seeing a STAND LOL what year is this? 2012?
Although I disagree that SNSD should be in bottom in their vocals. I honestly think that they’re not in the top spot either. Too much unnecessary members and very redundant roles on a 9-member group imo. But I’d put them in top3 the least.
My personal rankings are
1. 2NE1
2. SNSD
3. 4Minute
4. F(x)
5. WG
If Sistar is here, sistar easily takes the 3rd spot on my all time faves
LOL. Thanks, I need a good laugh today!
And you are trying to say that snsd is only popular for their visuals?Snsd were,still is and will forever remain the most legendary girl group.2ne1 made the worst music somehow were still popular thanks to dara who was incrediblely popular in Phillipines otherwise 2ne1 would have been the most flopped group in kpop history due to their bad discography.(fire and I am the best were okay-ish but others were just terrible and horrendous).
2ne1 the legendary Queens
My overall top 10 is:
1. f(x)
2. 2NE1
3. Miss A
4. After School
5. Sistar
6. Girls' Generation
7. 4Minute
8. Kara
9. Brown Eyed Girls
10. Wonder Girls
What's the name of the background sound of minute 3:07 :0?
Babacoes by axs music
2NE1 all the way 👑
2NE1 is one of the best group ever....but don't be so much toxic....2ne1 also Shame on you because your disrespect,hate opinions for other idols
2NE1 actually is the best group ever…..
lol ur content is so funny and decent its both trolling and information you're such queen
2ne1 Queen forever💚💛🧡💜
Why is SISTAR removed? You don't know the singers of 2009
tbh ik i wouldn't be able to fit them in the thumbnail. plus I thought sistar was 3rd gen
Based teqnique vocal
M.vocal
1 luna A
2 taeyeon A-
3 sunye B
4 yeuun C+
5 p bom prime C
6 Gayoon D+
7 Park bom E+
L.Vocal
1 Seohyun B-
2 jessica C+/B-
3 minzy C+
4 Tifanny C hight
5 sunny C hight
7 Cl C-
8 kristal D
9 sunmi D-
10 jooyeon E+
in what world jessica was a lead
The poineer girl crush concept, 2NE1
Girls' Generation and F(x) is the blueprint of KPOP
I’m just here to say… 2ne1 IS BACK IN 2025
its funny bcs actually the name girls' generation and sone has a beautiful meaning tho. ngl they hated it at first but turns out THE name becomes great and greatest. from this i can only see that 2NE1 is overrated sorry not sorry.
Get a life man. 2ne1 make your favs look dumb in comparison. Its the objective truth
F(X) carried by Luna the best SM gg if I'm not wrong (idk what Bada's tier is)
a totally bias ranking
Ok let's fight!! 👊🏻💥
I think 2ne1 best groups in 2gen with best vocal in park bom stylistic choice better all of them.❤❤❤❤
Wonder Girls
I also don't listen to Goodbye ( it makes me sad and mad at the same time). I've watched the vid once when it was released and then a few times in reaction videos.
Goodbye can rot in the YG dungeon for all I care. 2NE1 deserved better
the main slayer's back 😍😍
Sone comes from SNSD doesn't it? I feel better hearing someone else say some of this, Some groups are just catchy, but not actually good when you dig into them. But they are still catchy so not insulting! I mean, I get Gee and I Gotta Boy stuck in my head regularly lol
I’m sorry this is WAY too biased- you know dang well SNSD is first in vocals. Ain’t no way you’re sayin CL, Dara, Minzy and Bom are better singers than legends like Taeyeon, Jessica, Seohyun and Tiffany. Other snsd members could probably be main vocal in other groups
I love alll 😭😭😭 miss first and second generation kpop idol
I discovered KPOP in Feb 2023 with TREN-D. Then Blackpink and then (drumroll) I found 2NE1. I am a Blackjack and a Daraling. Trouble with comparing to 2NE1 is they are not one-trick-ponies. Three of the 4 rap (see clap your hands), all 4 have great vocals (see their acoustics like lonely), their choreography seems so-so until you watch a live performance and watch them move separately then coming back together with the music. This is planned and practiced. The 4 members fill the stage and hold your eyes. Stage Presence thy name is 2NE1. Oh yes, "Goodbye" was not a disbanding song. It was a song of mourning for Minzy being driven out of the group by YG.
im putting this in watch later this is 2 funny hold on
oh snsd on top of course!! 💗✨
Lol.Most of the 2ne1 music is completely garbage.Too much autotune,bad vocals,trashy edm etc.Snsd is the best 2nd gen girl group.They have the best discography and are better than 2ne1 in every aspect.Cry about it.😂
So delusional, Blinded by fanaticism, 2ne1 in the only thing that stands out is in rap and stage presence, in the others they are completely devoured by all.
LOVE IS 4WALLS
F(x)&2ne1🔥🔥🔥🔥💜💜💜💜
I love how you rank dance the design was so stupid basing it on their choreos😂. Why didn't you just put ranking dance steps and not dance so that it is more clearly!
This gay was an anti snsd ahahhaa
2NE1 👑
I am a blackjack, and i am biased.
Lmao,
VOCAL : SNSD #1 , Taeyeon Jess Seo Sun Tiff > Bom #Fact
Something i notices is that all SM Girlgroups have very lacking Stage Presence but for some Reason the only on getting Hate for it is Aespa i really wonder why
No really. Some of the idols have decent stage presence like Wendy, BoA, and HYO but the groups stage presence as a whole is always lacking
No one can’t beat 2ne1
wow, you really hate GG
LOL joke a blackjack commenting on other girls group obviously it’s biased then why include 2NE1 in since it’s a obvious choice to you
Can't even finish this very biased and garbage vid. Okay unto the next video!
2ne1 my queens❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
2NE1❤
Iba tlga ang 2nd gen till dis days magkakaibgan parin cla lahit magkakaiba ang grupo but still 2ne1 parin ang best sken walang umay sa mga kanta nla
2ne1 snsd
All facts! I agree
You just hate snsd for no reason.If I have to rank these(in any aspect)than it would be:1.Snsd(it is the best group ever and you are just jealous)2.fx(good, experiment discography/wonder girls(it was hard for me to decide which one is better so I put them on the same level as both of them have amazing discography)3.4minute-they had some good songs but most of the discography was unlistenable filled with bad vocals and bad edm.4.2ne1-one of the worst group of 2nd gen.Its good that they disbanded so we dont have to listen to their garbage music anymore.And snsd is still active and good unlike 2ne1😂who is totally forgotten.
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
One of the worst ranking vídeo I've ever seen, my God.
cringe.
also beeing a blackjack which i assume you are from this very biased video
saying the song goodbye is an embarassment just shows how much you respect artists and their work.
Snsd has taeyeon, seohyun, tiffany, sunny (and used to have jessica) as vocal line
While yuri sooyoung are lead vocalist material and you put them last on vocal department
AH DONT MAKE ME LAUGH
Fio em que mundo que o 2ne1 tem uma vocal line melhot que a do snsd, que tem a taeyeon, sunny, seohyun tiffany e de quebra ainda tinha a Jéssica
Nemhum grupo desse vídeo tem uma vocal line melhorar que a do snsd, nem mesmo o f(x) que tem a luna.
Que video biased lixoso
"The rest are subvocalist material"
Literalmente só a yoona e a hyoyeon, que são as únicas do grupo sem suporte e ainda fazem parte da dance line
Que vídeo burro
Im a blackjack first and foremost i love 2ne1 and everything they have done. But even i know snsd and wonder girls have a special place in kpop.
Anyways i would rank them like this.
Concepts.
Fx - sorry as much as i love 2ne1 fx had such a fun concept espically there last 3 albums they where actual magic not only the concept but just everything they did fit so well togther.
2ne1 - okay there concept for the girl crush thing was very very clearly definied from the start and they have done it the best since they made it a mainstream concept.
Wonder girls - there retro concept is actually magnificent as well as there band concept.
Snsd - they changed concept alot but eventually they came full circle to there original girl next door concept although i think Genie as a concept and song is one of the best kpop songs and concepts done in the whole of kpop.
4minute - they where very hit and miss with there concepts they started girl crush but changed throughout the years but they ended up hitting home run after home run during there later half of there career with there concepts it just took them a bit to long to find there signature sound amd style.
Visuals - all because i love all of there visuals for diffrent reasons, 2ne1 and 4minute had more edgy looks espically during concepts like i love you and i am the best for 2ne1 and 4minute with crazy and hate. Wonder girls and snsd had very typical girl group looks which i loved. Fx had a nice blend of edgy but also classic visuals, the edgy looks being amber where as Krystal and sulli had that classic SM vibe to them.
Dance.
Snsd - sorry to say but snsd had some of the best choreography amongst 2nd gen girl groups and very early on as well if you actually watch the stage performance for into the new world that shit is considered one of the hardest choreographys in the whole of kpop and i mean have you attempted to try and learn there dance for catch me if you can you will actually have a new respect for them after that song.
4minute - i agree with you in they where probably the only girl group to get 3rd gen choreography amongst all there pairs in this video and they pulled it of really well. Especially hate i love that dance its so crazy that it flopped that hard.
Fx - im only ranking them higher then 2ne1 because 4 walls was such a great choice of song and choreography that it does everything better then 2ne1s choreography ever did.
2ne1 - not as dynamic in there dance moves more focused on there stage presence and swag which really sets them apart from most other girl groups.
Wonder girls - they never really relied heavily on dance heavy songs although love you like money is a fun dance they succeed the most in hook dances which was a lot of fun.
Rap.
2ne1 - 4minute.
2ne1 had CL and minzy. CL is the best kpop idol rapper ive ever heard, i put her above even Gdragon. And minzy was a good lead rapper who could hold her own on a track as well.
4minute had Hyuna who was a rap beast and jiyon who i actually like rapping more then hyuna in some of 4minutes songs.
Wonder girls - Yubin is actually a really great rapper for an idol rapper as well as shes better then jiyoon and minzy at rapping but shes not as good as CL and Hyuna. Her verse on tell me and so hot are iconic.
Fx - amber will always be the better sm rapper from second gen she actually sounds like she listens to hip hop and rap music at least.
Snsd - never focused on rap in there music much but when they did hyoeyon did a decent enough job for the song, nothing amazing to write home about though.
Stage presence
2ne1 - okay ill give this one cut a clear to 2ne1. This one 2ne1 always carried stage presence like no one else.
4minute - yeah your right hyuna and the girls always had great stage presence.
Fx - amber and luna definitely loved hyping the crowd and i think they did a decent enough job at interacting with the crowd.
Wonder girls - i say this purely because during the band concept they had to interact with the crowds abit more which i loved.
Snsd - they are amazing on stage but your right theey never varied much from the choreography that was given to them.
Discographies.
Wonder girls - ive actually found myself loving more songs from wonder girls then not loving songs from them, except for the dj is mine that song i completely cant stand but beside that everything else they have released ive really enjoyed even deep cuts from albums. Sweet dreams and sweet and easy are top tier kpop songs. Bad boy of there first single album is such a good popping song i live for it and have played it out so much.
Fx - again the same reason as above but with maybe 1 or 2 songs i dont really enjoy per album or mini album but i enjoy majority of there music.
Snsd - they had very different variety in there music and there one of the only girl groups from this list with a japanese discography that is better then there korean one. Flower power and galaxy supernova are there best title songs.
2ne1 - okay they have great songs but alot of it starts sounding the same especially on that first album but when 2ne1 hits they hit hard. But i will say there last album is one of the best kpop albums from that year and there 2nd mini album with all of the songs becoming singles was iconic.
4minute - they suffer the same fate as 2ne1 in that alot of there early songs start sounding the same but they had very good songs but nothing outstanding till there last 2 mini albums although i did love volume up that song is a great pop song in general. 4minute actually have very good japanese only tracks as well love tension is a great song from them.
Vocals
Snsd - sorry but they have taeyeon as there main vocalist. I love the other girls but she is the main vocalist of main vocalist for a reason, theres a reason she has some of the most successful solo albums amongst her 2nd gen pairs.
Fx - Luna is a vocal beast she hard carried fx in the vocal department and her progression as a vocalist is nothing to scoff at, shes technically a better singer then taeyeon but her vocals are not as distinctive as her predecessors.
Wonder girls - tbh wonder girls have a very very solid vocal line in any lineup yeeun could run circles around most girl group members that have debut these days and sunye definitely helped create the sound of future JYP female vocalist for years after she debut.
2ne1 - sorry to say it but park bom and her regression really held back alot of what 2ne1 could do vocally back and it meat that minzy hard carried alot of 2ne1s vocals in the latter half of there careers. As great of a vocalist CL was her and dara could never fill that spot that park bom left when she regressed so it left minzy to do all the vocal carrying on her own in that last album. Also to be fair 2ne1s vocals never called for much vocal moments where the girls really had to belt above there vocal capacity but they could do high soaring notes with no problems.
4minute - i mean tbh the girls can sing but just like 2ne1 there vocals where never really called on in there music unlike fx and snsd where the vocal peaks where alot more higher and significant just like 2ne1 there vocals where never a main focus for the group which was never a bad thing but it also meant that 4minute never had to reach well above there vocal range and belting range alot in there songs. Although there where moments in songs just like 2ne1 where the girls could if they really wanted to.
Debut song.
Fx - your right lachata was a very good debut song and such a great showing of there talent and the video suited there concept very well and its just a great song in general and the dance is so much fun.
Snsd - it pains me to say because i dont really like this song but its impact on kpop in general and the way it helped shape kpop is something i just cant get over, they litterally helped birth the next gen of kpop girl groups and what is to be expected also this song has had lasting impact across the whole of korea not just the kpop industry.
2ne1 - fire was definitely that birth of girl crush in a way we had never seen before or after, its a slick song with a fun video as well both versions but it also hasn't aged as well as lachata which was released in the same year.
4minute - hot issue just like fire is a fun song and it has alot of the same quirks as fire but its a bit more teen crush then girl crush.
Wonder girls - irony is a solid debut song but its definitely of its time and has a lot of resemblance to songs that where popular on the top 40 in America at that time which is nothing bad but it definitely feels dated, tbh it kind of felt dated when it was released. I do like the song although tell me definitely felt like a debut song tbh only because it became the song associated with that lineup of wonder girls.
Disbandment song.
Wonder girls - why so lonely was a banger then and its still a banger now one of the best songs they ever released tbh.
Fx - 4 walls. I mean its personally my favourite title track from them.
4minute - i actually really liked hate and didnt understand why it got hate when it came out tbh.
Snsd - all night i actually love this song although it kind of reminds me of fx song called the same name which i feel they lowkey did that 80s synth sound a bit better.
2ne1 - goodbye i mean really, hey least we got a disbandment song unlike most YG artist that disbanded under them. But i feel liek this wasent the end for 2ne1 i feel like we where actually meant to get a song and a video from 2ne1 before there contracts where up.
SNSD disbanded?
@@mikeecastillo6619 no but like disbandment/finale song.