Can you imagine an EV fire on a car & passenger ferry on the open ocean? E.g. Every day two Spirit of Tasmania ferries each carry 1400 passengers and 500 cars (including EVs) across hundreds of kilometres of open ocean.
Ask the Fire Department for info about the differences between them both regarding fire management, @@qpwodkgh2010, and then tell us back how was it...
Whoever said they’re not more dangerous than a gas car after flood damage really needs to have their head checked because gas vehicles don’t just burst into flames repeatedly after being exposed to water, the worst that happens is it just won’t start
@@AbBc-w4q I’ve literally heard countless people (including news reporters) say electric vehicles are safer because you’re not riding a box powered by an explosive liquid (it’s literally some people’s selling point for an electric vehicle) so instead of trying to insult my intelligence for absolutely no reason why don’t you try being a decent person and ask for more details Regarding who I’m referencing and what they had said
Kind of blows my mind how one of the first things that wasn't properly taken care of with EV was insulating their batteries 100% from the elements. There should be water dunk, extreme heat/cold test with all EV vehicle batteries during production. If they fail, it's back to the drawing board. It's pretty clear that with floods, we're not technologically advanced enough yet to have reliable EV's.
Salt water eventually makes its way into anything. You can't design a completely bulletproof car unless you make it a bathyscape on wheels. They are already pretty good and pretty watertight but they are not submarines for days or weeks on end. A better procedure after prolonged flooding would be to immediately disable the cars/batteries and ship them to a recycling facility, not leave it on a lot for it to eventually smolder and burn.
Even with all this, you will still have the issue. Because electric and water don't mix. The water will break down anything over time and lead to issues.
They are for quick splashes/water crossings. Submersion for several hours is hard to even protect a tiny phone from, water pressure finds any tiny gap to get in.
For a gasoline/diesel powered vehicle it may be ruined but it won't be causing a fire because it was under the water, if you need an example look at the top gear episode where they tortured that 1984 Toyota. If they had tried that with a Tesla or any of these EV vehicles it would have been gone within seconds as in causing an underwater fire
HEY FLORIDA!!! HOW ABOUT BUILDING A MASSIVE SET OF RETENTION WALLS, SO WATER DOESN'T REACH YOUR SHORES ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ INSTEAD OF B#%$% ABOUT BATTERIES OR IDK, RAISE YOUR ELEVATION?!?! YOU GUYS ALONE ARE CAUSING INSURANCE RATES TO GO UP EVERY YEAR!
Lithium batteries in general are a serious fire hazard. Even the tiny ones in your smartphone or headphones can turn into a blowtorch while plugged in. You can leave your device overnight and come back to a house fire. This can happen even when the battery isn't abused, wet, or damaged, although that greatly increase the chance of spontaneous combustion.
As someone who is a firefighter, i’ve had my fair share of a few House fires starting from an electric vehicle parked in the garage. You don’t see it on the news quite often as it should be which is of course the point for no bad publicity but what I do know for a fact yes can you put out a gas vehicle quicker than an EV. People have no clue how much longer it takes to put out an EV which at that point it’s gonna burn down your house completely into nothing where as gas, the only damage that would be taken can be just the garage if you have a fire extinguisher. Oh and a regular fire extinguisher isnt gonna put out an EV either FYI.
I used an EV supplied by my company to assist in aiding the victims of Hurricane Ian in Naples and Fort Myers. There was no power anywhere hence, the EV lasted a few hours. My coworkers in gas cars had tankers filling them up. There are too many loopholes with EV. The accelerated push for EVs is simply political and that is the bottom line.
Why would your company provide you with an EV knowing you are going into an area with no power? Someone needs to be either fired or have their head examined.
@@tocreatee3585 lithium burns hotter/faster than gasoline and produce more environmental damage from the gasses released when they do burn. fyi I'm not against electric powered vehicles, but won't defend them as being the solution to climate change. They are far from being the solution for anything other than appeasing the climate activists types.
"Remember, viewers, vehicles that might randomly burst into flames are PERFECTLY SAFE! They just have to be handled properly and left in a "recycling facility" far, far away from anything flammable. And now, a word from our overlords."
@@tonyli2918 How often are EVs damaged by hurricanes? Do you buy gas powered cars damaged by hurricanes? You do realize your phones use Lithium Ion batteries as well right? This is a very rare occurrence
@@AbBc-w4q So if no one expected them to use any water and they are using up lots of water, that means they are using up more water than we expected. Like rasheed said.
And if you have a collision that damages one of the thousands of batteries that line the floor, a thermal runaway fire can spontaneously ignite, even weeks later.
@@kenjones-lc4ut Lithium, like sodium, spontaneously combusts when exposed to water. If water has managed to seep into the battery, despite it being disconnected, it will soon burst into flames.
To be fair the batteries are made of lithium which are highly reactive with water and form flammable hydrogen gas. Maybe we can find a better way of putting them out instead of using more water to make them react until they burn out.
@@jamiefullcock6569 displacing the oxygen won't do any good lithium doesn't need oxygen to burn infact it can still burn underwater. I've done a bit of research and there isn't any great solution to put it out that I could find. I found a source that said halon can put it out, however it's been disproven to work on larger batteries.
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It blows my mind how _well_ trained are those firefighters - putting *water* on *electrical and chemical fires!!!*
@@bigpimpen045there is very little lithium in the cells and even less water-reactive metallic lithium. Water causes the electronics in the packs to fail and also as a conductor for electricity, aggravating the fire. The lithium in li-ion cells is in a form of salt dissolved in a flammable electrolyte, very much like gasoline. When a cell is shorted, it dumps the energy in itself, heating up and eventually bursting into flames as the electrolyte is boiled and mixed with air.
Instead of insulting first responders, maybe look it up or ask a firefighter. They do it because dry-chem and co2 do not work. Lithium ion batteries are not lithium metal batteries which require class D. Lithium ion only has a tiny bit of lithium metal and can be doused with water. For some cars complete submerging in water is the only thing that’s worked so far. Ask any firefighter, the fires are impossible to put out. Teslas in particular.
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@@ajv9912 did I mention metallic lithium by any chance? I have known my share of firefighters and I have done my share of training in this field, required by job and (licensed) hobbies. Tesla or not, li-ion batteries are like gasoline filled high-energy electrical outlets. You do not put water on them period. The water or water-based extinguishing agents conduct electricity, basically causing short-circuits inside the pack. EVs are powered from 300v to 1.2kv battery packs. I have no clue about the classes different voltages and electricity sources get in the US, but I bet my hat, no one ever said "put water on the 240v lines" Li-ion fires are liquidated with liquid carbon dioxide or inert liquid polymers. They need to be cooled in order to stop electrolyte boiling and combusting and to decrease internal chemical reactivity that delivers the electrical current. Also I am sick of seeing firefighters putting water thru and over flames, in contradiction to all the training they got, where every damn captain shouts his lungs out his mouth: "you always attack the fire at the base, at the fuel"
If you own an electric car in the state of Florida - You can now use the money that you are saving on gas costs and redirect it to your increased insurance cost. Because insurance companies are raising rates for coverage of electric vehicles 28 - 32% in Florida.
And homeowners is going up too...because they ignite while charging in your garage while draining the grid at the same time, and the electricity for it still is generated by oil, gas, and coal.
Growing up in Thailand in the 70s, we had Tooktook (3 wheels taxi) that ran on battery. It was a neccesity since gasoline was not widely available at the time. Driver would work on it on the side of the road. They would had parts and batteries on the sidewalk. Grown up would tell me to be careful of the battery while walking passed them because battery was toxic. It would burn me if I touched it by accident. Those warnings stuck with me so I do not have good impression of EV.
EV batteries, back in the 1970's, 1980'a & 1990's, were using lead acid batteries. Modern EV's use lithium batteries. Lithium burns just like magnesium (used in flares). Lithium, just like sodium, also spontaneously combusts on contact with water.
they might be, but just like the ratings given for Smartphones, this is only to a certain DEPTH and only for a certain amount of TIME. because: DISCLAIMERS.
at least from the bottom of the car, yeah the chassis is sealed to prevent water from creeping up the car. I have a Plug-In Prius and it’s the same way. However the battery needs to breathe, so my car has vents inside the car that pull cabin air across the battery to keep it cool. I suspect that once water compromises the door seal the water travels down the cooling ducts and sits on the battery.
Get out of the electric car market ... while you can. Government is in the middle rethinking the whole EV issue because of economical and environmental worries.
Get a diesel as an investment. They were unfairly demonised due to the scandals, they've been fixed now with newer regulations and emission controls, but they're hardly making any new ones because of the dumb EV hype. When people realise EVs are silly, and diesels aren't that bad, the demand for diesels will be way higher than the supply, driving up prices for used ones even further! (And if you've got shares in Tesla, get out while you still can, once that bubble bursts you'll lose all your money.)
The dealership I work at has 2 brand new BMW IX awaiting cell modules. BMW said to park them outside away from any structures and disconnect the power cables. The coolant pumps for the batteries were failing due to continuously running...to keep the batteries cool. We are awaiting new cell modules. It's been 4 months due to supply issues.
@@thebrain7065 I’m not completely opposed to new technologies, but it’s completely ridiculous and insane to simply stop using the tried and true formula for cars. Maybe EV’s will have their place someday, but we’re a long ways from that. Until the bugs are all worked out and we have enough electrical generation capacity for all these new vehicles, my 5.0L Mustang will never be obsolete, nor will I ever part with it.
@@luckymanham302 yes sir...I couldn't agree more. The infrastructure isn't quite adequate..at least in S. Florida, but perhaps one day as time goes on it will get better. But yeah man hang on to the Mustang. Ordered my Tacoma TRD OFF ROAD 4X4 manual trans....3 months ago. Should be here at weeks end..will be the newest vehicle for me in 26 years. Lol!
Yes they were 100% aware of this. the 2 original founders of Tesla even spoke about this in a sit-down interview. with Elon's EGO now in charge, these 2 gentlemen have long since left the company though.
They had to know this. It’s like this any time you mix water and lithium. If the casing gets damaged from water or takes a significant hit, the batteries swell up badly and boom, fire.
They always know these dangers but instead choose to hide it ,sell it and get protected by Government and others. I can never imagine relying on an electric vehicle in an Area prone to bad weather/natural disasters.
EVs should be required to 1. have a loud emergency alarm when battery damage is detected, 2. have built in automatic fire suppression systems, and 3. notify the fire department immediately through its data connection when a battery failure is starting to occur.
@@Eduardo_Espinoza This would be for emergency reasons as JustinDaniels pointed out above. You let the tow truck worry about moving the car. Your job would be to get out safely and to keep others away from the vehicle. Hope that answers your question.
EV's are the answer to insane income growth and stock increases for big companies and corporations. Planned obsolescence is the main push here, not a cleaner future. The process of mining lithium alone destroys more ecosystems on one field than a town of gas vehicles. A Tesla can be made to be water resistant, but eventually they will be susceptible to water damage over time. You can't put a whole car in a bag of rice.
There's countless new battery types that can't ignite NO MATTER WHAT OR SELF EXTINGUISH. CONservatives creating oil monopolies and stopping investments into EVs really screwed everything, for now. The irony is that Cons caused these storms to be more severe and stalled progress in battery tech Lol!
@@ytfytf1265 Gasoline and diesel fuel is easy to extinguish, you just have to take away the oxygen supply. This can be done with a multi-purpose fire extinguisher, water, a fire blanket etc. Lithium batteries are dangerous because they produce their own oxygen while in thermal run away, they are impossible to extinguish. General practice now is to isolate the burning vehicle and allow it to expel all of its energy in the form of a fire.
Why. So people get scared and stop buying EV. Them pollution increases hence more hurricanes and more flooded cars. You didn’t think past go do you. It’s ok. We’ll do the thinking, you just sit and watch the show.
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This is exactly why I won´t trade my Kia Forte (which got flooded too and drove to from Orlando to Austin TX and back right after drying) with 300 K plus miles on it for a Tesla,
Before towing it why don't they disconnect the 12v battery then remove the service plug for the HV battery that may reduce the risk somewhat. However salt water damage I would imagine there is probably no turning back.
In the pnw they don’t use it because it’s bad for the environment when it melts with the snow. We pretty much gotta deal with fucked up streets. Gotta wait for big trucks to flatten. They will put some liquid on the road but not much
@@Eddi3xBac0n When you're smashing into another vehicle at 70 mph because the roads are not salted in the wintertime, the politicians and the environment will be the least of your worries.
No they're definitely more dangerous when they get flooded. Cuz you know anytime you have electrical stuff and it's gets corroded and stuff it starts causing problems. Even those flooded cars are going to give them problems. Eventually. They just won't catch on fire as quick. I think the EVs are definitely more dangerous
I saw a video where someone was taking a bulldozer and lifting one on fire up and over railing into what looked like a creek/some large body of water. Didn't look like there was much to do, but at the same time I can only imagine the pollutants were causing with these fire hazards.
Id much prefer buring carcinogentic fuel so we dont have that problem of recycling. Ill keep buring fuel until it runs out. Thats a problem for future generations. I dont care, Ill be dead by then.
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Looks like Tesla needs to do R&D on making a chassis more durable and waterproof to prevent water entering there. Rivian applies a foam in their battery packs to prevent the battery from spontaneously catching on fire.
All things being equal Phillip, battery power is just not the way to go. Nothing better than fossil fuels at this point in the technology we have at hand. With all the pollution controls big brother requires nowadays, motor vehicles are way better than once upon a time. It's all about control of us little peons, pogues, serfs and whatever else the arrogant type elites think of us. They can all kiss my born and raised goombah Brooklyn ass! I say va fan culo to all of them. Have a good day FilippoNoogen my friend!
evs are not practically. its that simple. plus ive seen so many ev vehicles bursting into flames and they burn extremely hot and burn far differently than gas run vehicles. we also waste far more water trying to put them out when we are trying to conserve what we can. edit: wanted to add that they are even saying not to park evs in garages. ive seen houses go up in flames due to an ev vehicle bursting into flames.
@@Victor-vj5ds EV are known to spontaneously catch fire without being damaged. However as per the National Transportation Safety Board, the percentage is less than gas powered cars. The cars that have the highest rate of spontaneous combustion are the Hybrids (gas electric), almost double that of gas powered.
@@Victor-vj5ds Nope. Isn't it amazing how some people live in a fantasy world. And will insist its daytime when the sky is dark just to be argumentative and plain stupid. Go argue the point with the National Transportation Safety Board who actually knows what they are talking about. "Total Fatalities Involving a Tesla Car Fire 38. 134 Confirmed cases of Tesla Fires as of 10/21/2022" Florida "Parked Tesla in lot ignites" California "Parked Tesla spontaneously combusts" Canada " Tesla spontaneously catches fire at stop light" California "House burns down from Tesla spontaneous fire" China "Tesla catches fire while driving" Get your head out of your ass fan boy. 😜😜😂😂 Thanks for the laugh., reply if you like moron I will not be reading anymore of your foolish ignorance.
I've learned to steer clear from new electronic devices and upgrades. EVs are still in its infancy stage in terms of reliability and just overall design and safety.
Yeah eventually we'll learn lessons from it. Eg EVs are only good for small city cars and the occasional REEVs, ridiculously heavy and overpowered crap like tesla are not better for the environment in most cases, they're just toys for the wealthy.
Many here are fixating on flooding, but even a minor fender bender can lead to EV battery damage. May not be evident until it suddenly goes into thermal runaway with little to no warning. Even a mostly discharged battery still has a lot of stored energy. Safer, better EV battery chemistries are being developed, but will take time to enter the market. In the meantime, ICE and hybrids (far smaller batteries) are safer alternatives.
"Electric vehicles are no more dangerous than a regular gas powered vehicle.... they just need to be handled differently" Yeah cause they aren't the same threat level. Gas powered car won't start cause water is flooding the intakes. Electric vehicles start itself on fire because of water.. which one is safer
Regardless of what videos you have seen, gasoline vehicles statistically Catch Fire 60 times more often than electric vehicles and many of the newer batteries being created are not at all flammable
Chevy bolt is a good contender, they even catch fire without damage! over the years we'll be seeing a lot more reports of different EVs catching fire too
This is what you pull from my comment, it not about the run off witch more often than not the fluids stay in the vehicles , it’s the deference of 750 gal. In contrast to 8000 gal. The south west and California can not afford the dispense of this amount of waste. Please save your response I have no objections to EV’s I have problems with government mandated use and destruction of economy’s to push the use of in the name of environmental protection.
@@mikemcnabb1582 How much water does it take to put out a house fire in California? How many burning Electric car fires get put out every day? I can tell you in the San Francisco area there are an incredible amount of Tesla‘s. And during my week there I didn’t see a single one on fire. You’re 8000 gallons is a Rationalization. Not a reason.
@@williamrose7184 I just looked up the MSDS for lithium ion batteries. Pretty gnarly stuff when there’s fire involved! Glad I’m team combustion engine! When you think about all the ones catching on fire here now, it really makes you wonder is it really worth it?
@@probiethetank8825 Why don’t you look up the MSDS for gasoline, transmission fluid, motor oil. Also for the plastic used in the automobiles since that’s pretty much with the smoke you’re seeing is.
@@minecraftwizzard2010 you can only contain those fire(water). it burn internally. Foam will poorly cool down and cut down air but batteries don't need air to burn
in Fire Science terms these are Metal Fires, so technically Class-D and thus VERY difficult to extinguish (and to keep from reigniting as mentioned by the reporter).
Flooded vehicles can come from any state. In fact flooded vehicles can be retitled in other states. Carfax would be one way to find out if the vehicle was ever totaled.
@@NorthWestAutos I own a Tesla and you could not give me another gas powered car EVs are faster more reliable clean and cheaper to run. Enjoy paying 6 bucks a gallon for gas i would say you will hear me driving bye laughing at you but my Tesla is also silent.
@@robertmiller32 teslas are overpriced garbage imo. We just received an email to stop buying all Teslas. We have way too many for sale and no one wants them. All dealership lots are full of used teslas. Even with all discounts still no one wants them. So many issues and quality is just terrible. How much did you pay for yours? How many years will it take you to get your money back? In few years they will be close to worthless.
I love how the news reporter says "...and this is the special field where they have to keep EV's." Meanwhile, there is just a Ford Maverick chilling in the back like "Yeah I'm definitely an EV" 🤣🤣
A guy was mowing a big open field in Dallas this summer, and hit a rock that sparked a grass fire that spread quickly due to high winds that day. The very dry grass allowed the fire to quickly move to the back of a residential section and tragically burned many homes, before the fire could be put out.
We need to use a different fire suppression material to put EV fire out. Water alone will not do the job. This is same situation when certain phone batteries started to catch fires due to altitude.
It's weird how a vehicle filled with highly flammable gasoline does not catch fire but these EVs that have already been polluted over 100k miles of pollution do.
Oh dont worry, the nurse who drove thru the intersection at 100mph in Los Angeles killed multiple people in the horrific crash and the cars involved, all gas, caught fire.
@@ThisaraGamalath you also do know that quite more lot of gasoline vehicles are on the road than ev’s, which make up just 1% of all cars on the roads today. Also, it doesn’t take an entire tsunami to put gas car fires out.
@@ajf5745 did u skip out on 5th grade math class? The statistic is taken 'PER MILLION KM / MILES' driven so it doesn't matter that there's more combustion cars than EVs🤣🤣.
In the event of a majority EV conversion, what’s the escape plan for those that have short evacuation warning? What measures will states take to ensure citizens aren’t stuck sitting in massive charging lines along the freeway?
Environmentally disposing theses car. Battey leaks in environmentally dangerous. They take up more water. More space and cant be transported like normal. Sounds like you need a landfill just for EVs that will be posionious.
That's why we need less gov't regulations on passenger car emissions. Look at all the damage these battery powered vehicles are causing. Imagine how toxic that water is and it goes back into the water supply, ocean, and soil. We need fuel efficient cars that are inexpensive, easily repaired, and long lasting.
You cant both tell me that these cars need to be held in a separate field, 50 feet apart, take 10 times more water to put out, can reignite, and ignite weeks after actually suffering the damage, and then also tell me that they're not more dangerous
@@ValentinoBentley Newer diesel engines do not smoke, they make an additive which has to be added to the vehicle or it will not run. Do a bit of research and stop expecting African children to mine for your dumb assed vehicles.
@@ValentinoBentley I'd be more concerned with corporations in most industries that pay for "carbon credits" instead of working toward actually being environmentally-safe at large scales if you're talking about most of the clowns that 'roll coal' they will get fix-it tickets to revert the emissions control they removed, now that most states have made it illegal I hate the smell of on-road diesel as much as the next guy, but even truckers aren't hurting the environment much as a necessary service. you can't beat diesel for long-haul trucking which large countries like the US need. EV is nowhere near ready for long-hauling anything.
Probably a good idea for manufactures to include a “self destruct” feature where it drains battery at controlled rate or plugs into something that drains battery, after that it can provide a constant load to remove any residual current. It won’t eliminate risk immediately but will avoid the long term storage problem. Flat li-ion batteries pose very little risk because they are lithium ion batteries and not lithium metal batteries.
don't be stupid that wouldn't stop a fire just add air and they short out simple oxygen recharges the battery for example and co2 drains them or it might be the other way around but either way that's how you get a fire from that sort of thing happening over and over till you get a super fire plain and simple🤣🤣🤣
@@jamesbond007colt45 he's a moron anyways cause if the battery's on fire lithium ion battery burn hot enough to melt steel so the wires connecting to the battery are gone he would have to try and connect jump cables or something to this burning battery which is burning as hot as the sun and I doubt it would go very well for him but at least he would likely kill himself in the attempt so there would be one less stupid person in the world then🤣🤣🤣
"EVs are not necessarily more dangerous than a traditional gas-powered vehicle." Really? That's not what you just reported. In case of flood, it is more dangerous. You need to be clear on that.
I like electric vehicles, but they haven’t been developed enough yet….they need to have these batteries 100% sealed as well as all connections to prevent saltwater leaking into them…this is an important learning point for EV companies
great idea for most on-road situations wont be able to use in every scene, and might be a little dangerous to set up when fire is blasting out the side like a jet engine.. but it was hilarious to see they dunked the car in a ditch to keep it under water
Water is not the best fire extinguisher for lithium batteries. Lithium reacts intensely with water, forming lithium hydroxide and highly flammable hydrogen. Car manufacturers are racing to develop the next models while not being forced by regulators to encapsulate proper fire neutralizers into the battery's pack. It should be mandatory that lithium battery manufacturers wrap their batteries with chemicals to neutralize the chemical reaction such as powder graphite or sodium carbonate.
Nothing about EVs makes sense. Overload a fragile electrical grid, catch fire, self-driving ones crash and a bigger overall carbon footprint than any other car. Bad idea all around. Oh, and they sink ships too!
This is what I’m talking about why I hate EVs they’re highly reactive to water and I like better to hear the rev than a silent car that’ll make me go crazy
This kind of news needs to be carefully written... it says all that EV haters want to hear. Very dumb report. The problem here is that authorities and manufacturers need to work together on how to deal with this new era of electric cars.
The nurse in Los Angeles drove into an intersection at 100mph and her car and all the cars involved exploded and caught fire, everyone perished. All gas vehicles. None EVs.
No record of model t's catching fire after a seawash.the battery wasn't under the seats for starters,plus it has a high ground clearance,unless hot rodded.
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Can you imagine a residential building or even a hotel having to deal with EVs burning in the garage floor?
Can you imagine an EV fire on a car & passenger ferry on the open ocean?
E.g. Every day two Spirit of Tasmania ferries each carry 1400 passengers and 500 cars (including EVs) across hundreds of kilometres of open ocean.
Gasoline and diesel cars catch fire every day all over the world. But you get your panties in a bunch as soon as you see EV in anything.
@qpwodkgh2010 Are you attempting to equate an EV fire with an ICE fire? No difference in terms of dangers and ability to manage? Seriously?
Ask the Fire Department for info about the differences between them both regarding fire management, @@qpwodkgh2010, and then tell us back how was it...
Didn’t fire make two skyscrapers collapse on 9/11?
Whoever said they’re not more dangerous than a gas car after flood damage really needs to have their head checked because gas vehicles don’t just burst into flames repeatedly after being exposed to water, the worst that happens is it just won’t start
i dunno.. who said that? I never heard anyone say anything like that. Did you just make that up to sound smart?
won't start, not as much of a problem as one that toasts the building you have it in.
@@AbBc-w4q I’ve literally heard countless people (including news reporters) say electric vehicles are safer because you’re not riding a box powered by an explosive liquid (it’s literally some people’s selling point for an electric vehicle) so instead of trying to insult my intelligence for absolutely no reason why don’t you try being a decent person and ask for more details Regarding who I’m referencing and what they had said
Keep in mind, these are Teslas they're talking about in this segment. Safety and quality are not really a concern at Tesla.
@@RichardStanton-c3j tell that to the model Y rollover tests but i have to agree with you other than that example
Damn that looks so environmentally friendly.
😂😂😂
Mmmmmmm. Toxic fumes. I didnt see cow fart measure-ers out there taking samples for comparison.
Right where is the outcry but instead they want to eradicate all cows lmao
Walking and biking are the only way
Id rather breathe carbon monoxide.
I'm old enough to remember all the Fisker Karma battery fires after Hurricane Sandy 10 years ago. Looks like a lot has changed since then.
Yea okay. But you're not actually old are you? ;)
@@TheNotoriousKRP still posting for the ccp eh?
A good looking car, shame its a EV
@@rurimoto if you think that's good looking, I have a sister who also resembles an amorphous blob...
@@LiterallyCensoredDaily haha its an oversized coupe
Kind of blows my mind how one of the first things that wasn't properly taken care of with EV was insulating their batteries 100% from the elements. There should be water dunk, extreme heat/cold test with all EV vehicle batteries during production. If they fail, it's back to the drawing board. It's pretty clear that with floods, we're not technologically advanced enough yet to have reliable EV's.
Salt water eventually makes its way into anything. You can't design a completely bulletproof car unless you make it a bathyscape on wheels. They are already pretty good and pretty watertight but they are not submarines for days or weeks on end. A better procedure after prolonged flooding would be to immediately disable the cars/batteries and ship them to a recycling facility, not leave it on a lot for it to eventually smolder and burn.
Even with all this, you will still have the issue. Because electric and water don't mix. The water will break down anything over time and lead to issues.
They are for quick splashes/water crossings. Submersion for several hours is hard to even protect a tiny phone from, water pressure finds any tiny gap to get in.
For a gasoline/diesel powered vehicle it may be ruined but it won't be causing a fire because it was under the water, if you need an example look at the top gear episode where they tortured that 1984 Toyota.
If they had tried that with a Tesla or any of these EV vehicles it would have been gone within seconds as in causing an underwater fire
HEY FLORIDA!!! HOW ABOUT BUILDING A MASSIVE SET OF RETENTION WALLS, SO WATER DOESN'T REACH YOUR SHORES ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ INSTEAD OF B#%$% ABOUT BATTERIES OR IDK, RAISE YOUR ELEVATION?!?! YOU GUYS ALONE ARE CAUSING INSURANCE RATES TO GO UP EVERY YEAR!
Lithium batteries in general are a serious fire hazard. Even the tiny ones in your smartphone or headphones can turn into a blowtorch while plugged in. You can leave your device overnight and come back to a house fire. This can happen even when the battery isn't abused, wet, or damaged, although that greatly increase the chance of spontaneous combustion.
Yeah we need gasoline powered cell phones.
@@theupscriber65 right, cause that's clearly the far superior solution😂
Hyundai KIA cars both explodes doesn't matter gas or electric.🤗
@@theupscriber65 that or just buy lithium battery safety bag
As someone who is a firefighter, i’ve had my fair share of a few House fires starting from an electric vehicle parked in the garage. You don’t see it on the news quite often as it should be which is of course the point for no bad publicity but what I do know for a fact yes can you put out a gas vehicle quicker than an EV. People have no clue how much longer it takes to put out an EV which at that point it’s gonna burn down your house completely into nothing where as gas, the only damage that would be taken can be just the garage if you have a fire extinguisher. Oh and a regular fire extinguisher isnt gonna put out an EV either FYI.
I used an EV supplied by my company to assist in aiding the victims of Hurricane Ian in Naples and Fort Myers. There was no power anywhere hence, the EV lasted a few hours. My coworkers in gas cars had tankers filling them up. There are too many loopholes with EV. The accelerated push for EVs is simply political and that is the bottom line.
Reading these comments its very clear that maybe only %10 of us even like EVs. It’s so obviously political and companies being greedy.
never happened 🤣🤣
They use the illusion of consensus when they force things they want and we don’t.
Why would your company provide you with an EV knowing you are going into an area with no power? Someone needs to be either fired or have their head examined.
@@EddieLeal he prolly made the whole thing up to bash evs
Wow. Even electric vehicles have to social distance!
🤣
The EVs did not get their booster shots!
Hyundai KIA cars both explodes doesn't matter gas or electric.🤗
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@@tocreatee3585 lithium burns hotter/faster than gasoline and produce more environmental damage from the gasses released when they do burn.
fyi I'm not against electric powered vehicles, but won't defend them as being the solution to climate change.
They are far from being the solution for anything other than appeasing the climate activists types.
"Remember, viewers, vehicles that might randomly burst into flames are PERFECTLY SAFE! They just have to be handled properly and left in a "recycling facility" far, far away from anything flammable. And now, a word from our overlords."
Looks like EVs are using up more water and space than we expected.
no one expected them to use up any water or more space than other cars. what are you talking about?
...and what kind of poison does burning EV put into the air?
@@AbBc-w4q Literally what this news video is all about...
@@tonyli2918 How often are EVs damaged by hurricanes? Do you buy gas powered cars damaged by hurricanes? You do realize your phones use Lithium Ion batteries as well right? This is a very rare occurrence
@@AbBc-w4q So if no one expected them to use any water and they are using up lots of water, that means they are using up more water than we expected. Like rasheed said.
Too dangerous to park next to each other, get wet, and tow. ... where can I get one?
😂😂😂
Imagine your homeowners insurance when they find out your parking one of these in your garage built into your house
And if you have a collision that damages one of the thousands of batteries that line the floor, a thermal runaway fire can spontaneously ignite, even weeks later.
Solution, don't crash, it's like you're saying a plane will fall out of the sky after a crash, obviously @@canwelook
Imagine your car insurance if you’re an Uber or Lyft driver! The cost just passes on to everyone else
'They just have to be handled differently' - as in pushed off the pier?
🤣🤣🤣
Park 50 ft away ehhee
No that would pollute the ocean. Send them to the moon with Elon.
🤣 Driven into a pool Sir. That is the answer 🙃😉
Naw they're fine.
Thank you for accurately reporting this matter and going straight into problem solving 🙌
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
would have liked to see a diagram of the battery and the disconnect chord from the engine. the reporting was good.
@@kenjones-lc4ut Lithium, like sodium, spontaneously combusts when exposed to water. If water has managed to seep into the battery, despite it being disconnected, it will soon burst into flames.
They're asking the companies to problem solve
EVs are so expensive, I’m honestly just surprised so many people left them behind to get salvaged
The cars are pieces of shit that’s why
They probably were glad to leave them. I wouldn't want to be halfway out of the state and need a charge or cross water
They probably owed a lot of money on them. If it was never yours you didn't lose anything but the debt.
* Insurance paid them off*
EVs don't have enough range to get out of the state.
The future looks bright, and fiery.
gas cars had their rough times aswell
@@shadowrnr3966 not like this they haven’t
Dracaras
@@mattbrew11 💥 boom 💥 tell em
Gas cars have 100 times more fires than EVs. It’s not even close when compared side by side.
To be fair the batteries are made of lithium which are highly reactive with water and form flammable hydrogen gas. Maybe we can find a better way of putting them out instead of using more water to make them react until they burn out.
They have dry chemical that are used for magnesium. Probably could be used for electric as they displace oxygen, taking Away the fuel from the fire.
@@jamiefullcock6569 There isn't magnesium in these batteries, Tesla has been testing manganese ion which will be in the Chinese made Y model.
Yeah because whatever they come up with definitely WON'T leach into the ground water. Like it already has in many airports. Lol
Dirt or sand??
@@jamiefullcock6569 displacing the oxygen won't do any good lithium doesn't need oxygen to burn infact it can still burn underwater. I've done a bit of research and there isn't any great solution to put it out that I could find. I found a source that said halon can put it out, however it's been disproven to work on larger batteries.
It blows my mind how _well_ trained are those firefighters - putting *water* on *electrical and chemical fires!!!*
Water plus lithium equals explosion 💥
@@bigpimpen045 it's not that
@@bigpimpen045there is very little lithium in the cells and even less water-reactive metallic lithium. Water causes the electronics in the packs to fail and also as a conductor for electricity, aggravating the fire.
The lithium in li-ion cells is in a form of salt dissolved in a flammable electrolyte, very much like gasoline.
When a cell is shorted, it dumps the energy in itself, heating up and eventually bursting into flames as the electrolyte is boiled and mixed with air.
Instead of insulting first responders, maybe look it up or ask a firefighter. They do it because dry-chem and co2 do not work. Lithium ion batteries are not lithium metal batteries which require class D. Lithium ion only has a tiny bit of lithium metal and can be doused with water. For some cars complete submerging in water is the only thing that’s worked so far. Ask any firefighter, the fires are impossible to put out. Teslas in particular.
@@ajv9912 did I mention metallic lithium by any chance?
I have known my share of firefighters and I have done my share of training in this field, required by job and (licensed) hobbies.
Tesla or not, li-ion batteries are like gasoline filled high-energy electrical outlets.
You do not put water on them period.
The water or water-based extinguishing agents conduct electricity, basically causing short-circuits inside the pack.
EVs are powered from 300v to 1.2kv battery packs. I have no clue about the classes different voltages and electricity sources get in the US, but I bet my hat, no one ever said "put water on the 240v lines"
Li-ion fires are liquidated with liquid carbon dioxide or inert liquid polymers.
They need to be cooled in order to stop electrolyte boiling and combusting and to decrease internal chemical reactivity that delivers the electrical current.
Also I am sick of seeing firefighters putting water thru and over flames, in contradiction to all the training they got, where every damn captain shouts his lungs out his mouth: "you always attack the fire at the base, at the fuel"
Wow you know it’s bad when you have to push a car in a ditch full of water 😮
It’s certainly effective.
And solves the problem.
If you own an electric car in the state of Florida - You can now use the money that you are saving on gas costs and redirect it to your increased insurance cost. Because insurance companies are raising rates for coverage of electric vehicles 28 - 32% in Florida.
That was funny 😂 n serious
And homeowners is going up too...because they ignite while charging in your garage while draining the grid at the same time, and the electricity for it still is generated by oil, gas, and coal.
Tesla has its own insurance. I'm not sure if it's in Florida yet.
But only in the state of Florida?
Did you know that gasoline is flammable and gasoline cars also catch fire?
@@KB-ke3fi False
Growing up in Thailand in the 70s, we had Tooktook (3 wheels taxi) that ran on battery. It was a neccesity since gasoline was not widely available at the time. Driver would work on it on the side of the road. They would had parts and batteries on the sidewalk. Grown up would tell me to be careful of the battery while walking passed them because battery was toxic. It would burn me if I touched it by accident. Those warnings stuck with me so I do not have good impression of EV.
different batteries my friend
EV batteries, back in the 1970's, 1980'a & 1990's, were using lead acid batteries. Modern EV's use lithium batteries. Lithium burns just like magnesium (used in flares). Lithium, just like sodium, also spontaneously combusts on contact with water.
Yeah they're much worse now.
Well, much more powerful obviously (and better longevity) - better in that respect, but way more dangerous.
Who knew electricity and water don’t mix?
salt water especially.
lol
Back to combustion engines.
@@natoanilom9241 right. those never catch on fire. ...just several thousand mini explosions a minute.
@@UmmYeahOk ICE vehicles wont keep combusting for weeks tho. Once it's out, it's out.
Here I am thinking that the battery pack was waterproof.
Any R/C hobbiest could've told you differently.
they might be, but just like the ratings given for Smartphones, this is only to a certain DEPTH and only for a certain amount of TIME. because: DISCLAIMERS.
at least from the bottom of the car, yeah the chassis is sealed to prevent water from creeping up the car. I have a Plug-In Prius and it’s the same way. However the battery needs to breathe, so my car has vents inside the car that pull cabin air across the battery to keep it cool. I suspect that once water compromises the door seal the water travels down the cooling ducts and sits on the battery.
@@toysoldier46552
Because you think they use the same batteries from RC cars and automobiles? I guess the hobby has gone downhill. 🤦🏻
@@neilkurzman4907 Actually, they are the same.
Get out of the electric car market ... while you can. Government is in the middle rethinking the whole EV issue because of economical and environmental worries.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Get a diesel as an investment.
They were unfairly demonised due to the scandals, they've been fixed now with newer regulations and emission controls, but they're hardly making any new ones because of the dumb EV hype. When people realise EVs are silly, and diesels aren't that bad, the demand for diesels will be way higher than the supply, driving up prices for used ones even further!
(And if you've got shares in Tesla, get out while you still can, once that bubble bursts you'll lose all your money.)
The dealership I work at has 2 brand new BMW IX awaiting cell modules. BMW said to park them outside away from any structures and disconnect the power cables. The coolant pumps for the batteries were failing due to continuously running...to keep the batteries cool. We are awaiting new cell modules. It's been 4 months due to supply issues.
🤣🎉 👏🏼 This is so much better than gas powered vehicles.
@@luckymanham302 exactly..lol I'm fixing to go get a Model T...😆 they've been around for more than 100 years w/o issues.
LOL.
@@thebrain7065 I’m not completely opposed to new technologies, but it’s completely ridiculous and insane to simply stop using the tried and true formula for cars. Maybe EV’s will have their place someday, but we’re a long ways from that. Until the bugs are all worked out and we have enough electrical generation capacity for all these new vehicles, my 5.0L Mustang will never be obsolete, nor will I ever part with it.
@@luckymanham302 yes sir...I couldn't agree more. The infrastructure isn't quite adequate..at least in S. Florida, but perhaps one day as time goes on it will get better. But yeah man hang on to the Mustang.
Ordered my Tacoma TRD OFF ROAD 4X4 manual trans....3 months ago. Should be here at weeks end..will be the newest vehicle for me in 26 years. Lol!
Wow 😲😳 I bet they knew this but still sold them
The Ford Pinto is impressed...
Yes they were 100% aware of this. the 2 original founders of Tesla even spoke about this in a sit-down interview. with Elon's EGO now in charge, these 2 gentlemen have long since left the company though.
They had to know this. It’s like this any time you mix water and lithium. If the casing gets damaged from water or takes a significant hit, the batteries swell up badly and boom, fire.
They always know these dangers but instead choose to hide it ,sell it and get protected by Government and others. I can never imagine relying on an electric vehicle in an Area prone to bad weather/natural disasters.
@@phoenixhenson3689 hide what? Everybody with a few brain cells knows water and batteries don't mix.
EVs should be required to 1. have a loud emergency alarm when battery damage is detected, 2. have built in automatic fire suppression systems, and 3. notify the fire department immediately through its data connection when a battery failure is starting to occur.
4 Self-detonate, instead of catching fire.
Auto pilot into a pool of water
Perhaps also a release handle that drops the battery to the ground disconnecting it from the vehicle.
How would you move the car than?@@Olds_Pwr
@@Eduardo_Espinoza This would be for emergency reasons as JustinDaniels pointed out above. You let the tow truck worry about moving the car. Your job would be to get out safely and to keep others away from the vehicle. Hope that answers your question.
I thought EVs were the answer to all our problems
Would be interesting to see how the new tesla's faired, the cars I see on this video on fire are the older models
EV's are the answer to insane income growth and stock increases for big companies and corporations. Planned obsolescence is the main push here, not a cleaner future. The process of mining lithium alone destroys more ecosystems on one field than a town of gas vehicles. A Tesla can be made to be water resistant, but eventually they will be susceptible to water damage over time. You can't put a whole car in a bag of rice.
@@strawdemindset @Benjamin Strawde Theyre internals aren't much different so i assume they would react the same.
Making less stuff is the answer, better to make no car than a EV
Lol imagine spending all that money and this.
Gotta love all the fumes that get released into the air as they burn. Oh the irony lol
There's countless new battery types that can't ignite NO MATTER WHAT OR SELF EXTINGUISH. CONservatives creating oil monopolies and stopping investments into EVs really screwed everything, for now. The irony is that Cons caused these storms to be more severe and stalled progress in battery tech Lol!
Big Irony
😂
Maybe some of the worst air pollution ever. Thanks you tree hugging hippies!
And all the wasted water to put out the fire thats goin down the drain .
Can you imagine how severe the fire would be if this were electric school buses not to mention the lost of young lives
already happened 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Plently of gasoline school bus fires.
@@ytfytf1265 Gasoline and diesel fuel is easy to extinguish, you just have to take away the oxygen supply. This can be done with a multi-purpose fire extinguisher, water, a fire blanket etc.
Lithium batteries are dangerous because they produce their own oxygen while in thermal run away, they are impossible to extinguish. General practice now is to isolate the burning vehicle and allow it to expel all of its energy in the form of a fire.
LOL yes lets adds some children into the equation to make it really bad.... how about a bus of single moms! OMG!!!!!!
@@AbBc-w4q Don't forget the elderly and minorities...
What a nightmare !!!
its a dystopian firescape
This needs to go viral
Why. So people get scared and stop buying EV. Them pollution increases hence more hurricanes and more flooded cars. You didn’t think past go do you. It’s ok. We’ll do the thinking, you just sit and watch the show.
ABC: “Advertise with us or we will bash your brand” And “our audience is so stupid they won’t only not notice they’ll call you conspiracy theorists if you call us out on this”
How many gas vehicles explode every year or kill people with emissions. Are you up in arms about that?
@@francismarion6400 97 percent of the stuff in ev batteries are recyclable.
@@ocampbell1954 I love gas Vichiches
If any other products were doing this, they would be banned immediately.
Nature dealing with nature. Very bizarre.
😅
This is exactly why I won´t trade my Kia Forte (which got flooded too and drove to from Orlando to Austin TX and back right after drying) with 300 K plus miles on it for a Tesla,
obviously, if the battery is disconnected or removed right away from these cars, most batteries won't explode.
Lol they wouldn't take it as a trade anyway. Who are you kidding?
@@RealMTBAddict 😂😂😂😂
Any automobile that’s been submerged in water, salt or fresh is considered scrap metal by your insurance company.
yea ill stick with my lexus, even if they offered me a free tesla i wouldn't take it.
Before towing it why don't they disconnect the 12v battery then remove the service plug for the HV battery that may reduce the risk somewhat. However salt water damage I would imagine there is probably no turning back.
I've got the same argument in the Northeast where they use salt all over the roads, look what salt water is done to the cars
😲😯
In the pnw they don’t use it because it’s bad for the environment when it melts with the snow. We pretty much gotta deal with fucked up streets. Gotta wait for big trucks to flatten. They will put some liquid on the road but not much
Wrong
@@Eddi3xBac0n When you're smashing into another vehicle at 70 mph because the roads are not salted in the wintertime, the politicians and the environment will be the least of your worries.
No they're definitely more dangerous when they get flooded. Cuz you know anytime you have electrical stuff and it's gets corroded and stuff it starts causing problems. Even those flooded cars are going to give them problems. Eventually. They just won't catch on fire as quick. I think the EVs are definitely more dangerous
definitely...and stuff
I think people have forgotten that cars have been catching on fire and exploding since 1900.
@@I3aMb00 not so easily.
@@I3aMb00 not in this way. I've never had to wonder if my car would just spontaneously catch fire in my garage
@@itzapeezacake580 👌
Remember the old saying, all. *Water and electricity do not mix.*
AT 1:27, THAT RED TESLA IS FILLED WITH WATER LIKE A HOT TUB. At 1:49, it's on fire AGAIN! It kept reigniting, even after pushing it into a pond!
Wow! Look at all that water being wasted to keep an “Environmentally Friendly” vehicle from becoming a fireball 👏🏼
“Environmentally friendly” just imagine having to recycle these batteries and their cost in 20-30 years
I saw a video where someone was taking a bulldozer and lifting one on fire up and over railing into what looked like a creek/some large body of water. Didn't look like there was much to do, but at the same time I can only imagine the pollutants were causing with these fire hazards.
Id much prefer buring carcinogentic fuel so we dont have that problem of recycling. Ill keep buring fuel until it runs out. Thats a problem for future generations. I dont care, Ill be dead by then.
just imgaine having to rectcle all the gasoline burnt and killing people with cancer.. oops oh wait.. you cant recycle that. nevermind
Will they last 20 years?.
Nothing like old school. 😇😇
( #TELL #ME #ABOUT #IT ) NO ( #12HOURS #TO #CHARGE #CARS ) NO ( #LONG #EV #CHARGESTATION #WAIT #LINES ) NO ( #EV #SOFTARE #HACKS ) NO ( #AUTO #SELF #DRIVE #IN #TREES ) THOSE ARE THE ( #GOOD OLE DAYS ) 🙃🙃🙃🙃
Looks like Tesla needs to do R&D on making a chassis more durable and waterproof to prevent water entering there. Rivian applies a foam in their battery packs to prevent the battery from spontaneously catching on fire.
New Teslas use foam as well.
All things being equal Phillip, battery power is just not the way to go. Nothing better than fossil fuels at this point in the technology we have at hand. With all the pollution controls big brother requires nowadays, motor vehicles are way better than once upon a time. It's all about control of us little peons, pogues, serfs and whatever else the arrogant type elites think of us. They can all kiss my born and raised goombah Brooklyn ass! I say va fan culo to all of them. Have a good day FilippoNoogen my friend!
Soon Tesla will have a lot more competition.
Well then they need to recall the vehicles and install the foam
Newer Tesla vehicles are built much better. All the Teslas that caught on fire in the video were previous generations.
evs are not practically. its that simple. plus ive seen so many ev vehicles bursting into flames and they burn extremely hot and burn far differently than gas run vehicles. we also waste far more water trying to put them out when we are trying to conserve what we can.
edit: wanted to add that they are even saying not to park evs in garages. ive seen houses go up in flames due to an ev vehicle bursting into flames.
Funny I got the impression EV's were considerably more dangerous under these conditions.
Yup.. lol
the batteries are sealed, the packs where damaged by debris. typically flood damage would completely kill a gas car.
@@Victor-vj5ds EV are known to spontaneously catch fire without being damaged. However as per the National Transportation Safety Board, the percentage is less than gas powered cars. The cars that have the highest rate of spontaneous combustion are the Hybrids (gas electric), almost double that of gas powered.
@@DIDYOUSEETHAT172 nope, spontaneous combustion is almost non existent to tesla, its almost always linked to battery damage received while driving.
@@Victor-vj5ds Nope. Isn't it amazing how some people live in a fantasy world. And will insist its daytime when the sky is dark just to be argumentative and plain stupid. Go argue the point with the National Transportation Safety Board who actually knows what they are talking about. "Total Fatalities Involving a Tesla Car Fire 38. 134 Confirmed cases of Tesla Fires as of 10/21/2022"
Florida "Parked Tesla in lot ignites"
California "Parked Tesla spontaneously combusts"
Canada " Tesla spontaneously catches fire at stop light"
California "House burns down from Tesla spontaneous fire"
China "Tesla catches fire while driving" Get your head out of your ass fan boy. 😜😜😂😂 Thanks for the laugh., reply if you like moron I will not be reading anymore of your foolish ignorance.
I've learned to steer clear from new electronic devices and upgrades. EVs are still in its infancy stage in terms of reliability and just overall design and safety.
Yeah eventually we'll learn lessons from it.
Eg EVs are only good for small city cars and the occasional REEVs, ridiculously heavy and overpowered crap like tesla are not better for the environment in most cases, they're just toys for the wealthy.
Many here are fixating on flooding, but even a minor fender bender can lead to EV battery damage. May not be evident until it suddenly goes into thermal runaway with little to no warning. Even a mostly discharged battery still has a lot of stored energy. Safer, better EV battery chemistries are being developed, but will take time to enter the market. In the meantime, ICE and hybrids (far smaller batteries) are safer alternatives.
OMG SCARY!!!!!!! The sky is falling!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hopefully no one gets knocked unconscious during a battery runaway chemical reaction.
And where do people park these EVs that have had a minor fender bender? In their garage being charged up, risking their home and family.
"Electric vehicles are no more dangerous than a regular gas powered vehicle.... they just need to be handled differently"
Yeah cause they aren't the same threat level.
Gas powered car won't start cause water is flooding the intakes. Electric vehicles start itself on fire because of water.. which one is safer
Yes there seems to be a never-ending supply of EV's on fire videos recently. I'll be sticking to my ice vehicle. 😮
Regardless of what videos you have seen, gasoline vehicles statistically Catch Fire 60 times more often than electric vehicles and many of the newer batteries being created are not at all flammable
It would be very educational to see non-Tesla on fire. (They are totally different batteries design)
Gasoline cars are better for the environment. Debate me
Other brands advertise on ABC. They won’t that bad about them.
@@RealMTBAddict Gavin Newsom said so and if you say liberals are wrong your racist. You're not racist are you?
@@guyod1 I guess I am
Chevy bolt is a good contender, they even catch fire without damage! over the years we'll be seeing a lot more reports of different EVs catching fire too
8000 gallons, that has to be good for the environment
The environment is our playtoy
And you think the gasoline and oil from standard automobiles is good for the environment when you wash it away from a burning car?
This is what you pull from my comment, it not about the run off witch more often than not the fluids stay in the vehicles , it’s the deference of 750 gal. In contrast to 8000 gal. The south west and California can not afford the dispense of this amount of waste. Please save your response I have no objections to EV’s I have problems with government mandated use and destruction of economy’s to push the use of in the name of environmental protection.
@@mikemcnabb1582
How much water does it take to put out a house fire in California?
How many burning Electric car fires get put out every day? I can tell you in the San Francisco area there are an incredible amount of Tesla‘s.
And during my week there I didn’t see a single one on fire.
You’re 8000 gallons is a Rationalization. Not a reason.
@@neilkurzman4907 Still missed it, good points we are just on different pages Neil.
Wouldn't be surprised if insurance companies stopped insuring EV's. Too much of a liability.
Interesting. I was under the impression teslas were not only sealed better for water damage, but they are less likely to have a battery short
Why because the people who make them said so?
Me too for some reason
Buy beachfront property in Nebraska while you still can 😂
What gave you that impression? Blind faith on trendy, meme companies?
@@chrism8180 no. Ive seen vehicles drive submerged but again that doesnt necessarily mean they werent damaged
I am very curious about what’s in the smoke, and how much has been released lol
Lithium ion. That’s just one of the dangerous chemicals coming out of that smoke
@@williamrose7184 I just looked up the MSDS for lithium ion batteries. Pretty gnarly stuff when there’s fire involved!
Glad I’m team combustion engine! When you think about all the ones catching on fire here now, it really makes you wonder is it really worth it?
@@probiethetank8825 Greta Turnburg has done major damage to the environment by telling people to buy EVs
@@williamrose7184
So what’s the MSDS for lithium ion?
The smoke you’re seeing there is the burning plastic from the car.
@@probiethetank8825
Why don’t you look up the MSDS for gasoline, transmission fluid, motor oil.
Also for the plastic used in the automobiles since that’s pretty much with the smoke you’re seeing is.
Why don’t firefighters use water foam to stop fires faster like the ones to stop jet fuel
Water cools faster.
@@abrahamelliott9806 but you can cover a fire and it takes out the fire easily
@@minecraftwizzard2010 you can only contain those fire(water). it burn internally. Foam will poorly cool down and cut down air but batteries don't need air to burn
@@surf2257 but the foam would cut off the oxygen right and what about house fires and or building fires
in Fire Science terms these are Metal Fires, so technically Class-D and thus VERY difficult to extinguish (and to keep from reigniting as mentioned by the reporter).
If you’re buying a car make sure you ask for car-fax, make sure the vehicle is not from florida.
Make sure you don't buy electric bomb
Flooded vehicles can come from any state.
In fact flooded vehicles can be retitled in other states.
Carfax would be one way to find out if the vehicle was ever totaled.
@@NorthWestAutos I own a Tesla and you could not give me another gas powered car EVs are faster more reliable clean and cheaper to run. Enjoy paying 6 bucks a gallon for gas i would say you will hear me driving bye laughing at you but my Tesla is also silent.
@@robertmiller32 teslas are overpriced garbage imo. We just received an email to stop buying all Teslas. We have way too many for sale and no one wants them. All dealership lots are full of used teslas. Even with all discounts still no one wants them. So many issues and quality is just terrible. How much did you pay for yours? How many years will it take you to get your money back? In few years they will be close to worthless.
@@NorthWestAutos Yeah thats why theres still a waiting list lol
Ehrm, I prefer cars that don't burst into flames
Can you imagine the first massive wildfire that would be attributed to an electric vehicle fire?
They would never admit it even if true.
I love how the news reporter says "...and this is the special field where they have to keep EV's." Meanwhile, there is just a Ford Maverick chilling in the back like "Yeah I'm definitely an EV" 🤣🤣
Maybe the 2.5L hybrid engine? Otherwise idk
@@seafooddiablo5686 Yeah maybe 🤷♂
john kerry says this is good for chinas economy, order million more electro deathtraps
“News Flash” Ford doe’s make a Hybrid Maverick and a full EV Maverick, do some research.
@@studivan Oh ok! I think I did hear of it, but was not sure.
You aren’t supposed to use water to put out a lithium fire. It makes the fire stronger and last longer
The grass can go on fire too. Not good situation.
Not when it’s muddy like that.
it's not gonna spread
A guy was mowing a big open field in Dallas this summer, and hit a rock that sparked a grass fire that spread quickly due to high winds that day. The very dry grass allowed the fire to quickly move to the back of a residential section and tragically burned many homes, before the fire could be put out.
@@HardRockMaster7577 that was in Texas tho this is in florida everything is always wett cause of the humidity
@@HardRockMaster7577 I'm very sorry to learn of this
We need to use a different fire suppression material to put EV fire out. Water alone will not do the job. This is same situation when certain phone batteries started to catch fires due to altitude.
Why!? Are you a partner if Tesla or any electrical car companies!?
You must be French, we we...
Who is going to flip the bill on that wewe?
Everyone discovering this video a year after they needed it. Hope everyone is ok!
It's weird how a vehicle filled with highly flammable gasoline does not catch fire but these EVs that have already been polluted over 100k miles of pollution do.
u do realize gasoline cars catch on fire wayy more often than EVs??🤣
Oh dont worry, the nurse who drove thru the intersection at 100mph in Los Angeles killed multiple people in the horrific crash and the cars involved, all gas, caught fire.
@@ThisaraGamalath you also do know that quite more lot of gasoline vehicles are on the road than ev’s, which make up just 1% of all cars on the roads today. Also, it doesn’t take an entire tsunami to put gas car fires out.
@@ajf5745 did u skip out on 5th grade math class? The statistic is taken 'PER MILLION KM / MILES' driven so it doesn't matter that there's more combustion cars than EVs🤣🤣.
How is this good for the environment? This is our future.
I see them lifted rear wheels with blocks to help firefighters pump water to under the car if it lights up
..very smart
If it's one thing it's another always a side effect to something ...
I don't think lithium and water is the smartest choice
This is very scary
In the event of a majority EV conversion, what’s the escape plan for those that have short evacuation warning? What measures will states take to ensure citizens aren’t stuck sitting in massive charging lines along the freeway?
I'm not going to convert to EVs
Don't buy Tesla.
I don't want any of these EV fire traps parked anywhere near my home...
EV's arent more dangerous, they only need to be stored 50 feet apart, and can randomly combust, but that's how much more dangerous they arent.
for real haha, not more dangerous lol? Ya ok
Environmentally disposing theses car. Battey leaks in environmentally dangerous. They take up more water. More space and cant be transported like normal. Sounds like you need a landfill just for EVs that will be posionious.
That's why we need less gov't regulations on passenger car emissions. Look at all the damage these battery powered vehicles are causing. Imagine how toxic that water is and it goes back into the water supply, ocean, and soil.
We need fuel efficient cars that are inexpensive, easily repaired, and long lasting.
You cant both tell me that these cars need to be held in a separate field, 50 feet apart, take 10 times more water to put out, can reignite, and ignite weeks after actually suffering the damage, and then also tell me that they're not more dangerous
Lmao that grey smoke looks super safe for the environment.
You mean like the smoke that comes out of diesel exhausts?
@@ValentinoBentley Newer diesel engines do not smoke, they make an additive which has to be added to the vehicle or it will not run. Do a bit of research and stop expecting African children to mine for your dumb assed vehicles.
@@ValentinoBentley I'd be more concerned with corporations in most industries that pay for "carbon credits" instead of working toward actually being environmentally-safe at large scales
if you're talking about most of the clowns that 'roll coal' they will get fix-it tickets to revert the emissions control they removed, now that most states have made it illegal
I hate the smell of on-road diesel as much as the next guy, but even truckers aren't hurting the environment much as a necessary service. you can't beat diesel for long-haul trucking which large countries like the US need. EV is nowhere near ready for long-hauling anything.
Wow see this situation was already known 😮 this incident was a year ago.
If salt water is the cause, I wonder what the salt poured on roads will do to EVs in certain states?
Rust it from the inside out like with any other car. Don't buy used cars in the salt belt
Probably a good idea for manufactures to include a “self destruct” feature where it drains battery at controlled rate or plugs into something that drains battery, after that it can provide a constant load to remove any residual current.
It won’t eliminate risk immediately but will avoid the long term storage problem. Flat li-ion batteries pose very little risk because they are lithium ion batteries and not lithium metal batteries.
don't be stupid that wouldn't stop a fire just add air and they short out simple oxygen recharges the battery for example and co2 drains them or it might be the other way around but either way that's how you get a fire from that sort of thing happening over and over till you get a super fire plain and simple🤣🤣🤣
dumb
You can't drain 60 amps from lithium it's not a lead battery. Do your research, not listen to the news.
That is easier said than done. A battery contains the energy of a tank of gas. The heat is would generate would be immense if you try to drain it.
@@jamesbond007colt45 he's a moron anyways cause if the battery's on fire lithium ion battery burn hot enough to melt steel so the wires connecting to the battery are gone he would have to try and connect jump cables or something to this burning battery which is burning as hot as the sun and I doubt it would go very well for him but at least he would likely kill himself in the attempt so there would be one less stupid person in the world then🤣🤣🤣
"EVs are not necessarily more dangerous than a traditional gas-powered vehicle." Really? That's not what you just reported. In case of flood, it is more dangerous. You need to be clear on that.
I like electric vehicles, but they haven’t been developed enough yet….they need to have these batteries 100% sealed as well as all connections to prevent saltwater leaking into them…this is an important learning point for EV companies
Just like when a cellphone gets wet, instead of the phone acting weird and calling randomly or something it’ll be 100% throttle and fire
Wrong
@@04red6 all that smoke in the video must be fairy dust then…
Fire department has to set up a portable water dam around an electric vehicle on fire. It will help them not waste water 💧
great idea for most on-road situations
wont be able to use in every scene, and might be a little dangerous to set up when fire is blasting out the side like a jet engine.. but it was hilarious to see they dunked the car in a ditch to keep it under water
I bet you own a Tesla and wear a NASA shirt.
Watch out for any flood damaged vehicles
u stupit?
Water is not the best fire extinguisher for lithium batteries.
Lithium reacts intensely with water, forming lithium hydroxide and highly flammable hydrogen.
Car manufacturers are racing to develop the next models while not being forced by regulators to encapsulate proper fire neutralizers into the battery's pack. It should be mandatory that lithium battery manufacturers wrap their batteries with chemicals to neutralize the chemical reaction such as powder graphite or sodium carbonate.
Nothing about EVs makes sense. Overload a fragile electrical grid, catch fire, self-driving ones crash and a bigger overall carbon footprint than any other car. Bad idea all around. Oh, and they sink ships too!
if it doesnt make sense then you know something is up
This is what I’m talking about why I hate EVs they’re highly reactive to water and I like better to hear the rev than a silent car that’ll make me go crazy
This kind of news needs to be carefully written... it says all that EV haters want to hear. Very dumb report. The problem here is that authorities and manufacturers need to work together on how to deal with this new era of electric cars.
sure, thats fine, its just the political mandate to own only BEV by 2040 or whatever that is a huge problem
My Ford Focus would never 💅
I miss my focus.
Electric Vehicles bursting into flames, Makes you want to go and buy one right away😅
thankfully the majority of us ev owners dont live in states that get flooded with salt water at least once a year
Does anyone?
The nurse in Los Angeles drove into an intersection at 100mph and her car and all the cars involved exploded and caught fire, everyone perished. All gas vehicles. None EVs.
No record of model t's catching fire after a seawash.the battery wasn't under the seats for starters,plus it has a high ground clearance,unless hot rodded.
Basic science. Oh, wait. Florida does not believe in science, so these car-buyers and dealers would truly have no clue.
LOL. Basic chemistry? What's that? Jesus take the wheels!
You’re a liberal fucking moron, I know an oxymoron
@@larryharding3572 Actually, he's a conservative moron.
How far have we fallen!!!!
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
There not talking about the water they use on the fires is contaminated and then goes into the ground or sewer .
What is going on?
A: the predictable outcome of Lies and Half Truths. okay next question.
I love how they keep saying “ Electric vehicles“. I think you mean Teslas. I didn’t see any Chevy bolts out there.
There was a f150 not on fire though
@@Mike-kr5dn There was an f150 in the field. I didn’t see any fire damage.
we’re pathetic that we rip people off when we have natural disasters
and others are stealing the stuff from the interiors
OVER HERE IN CALIFORNIA WE THE PEOPLE NEED TO STOP NEWSOM FROM FORCING EV's on us!!!
What a pain in the ass. Ill be dead first before I buy an EV